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fred vahşi ve unbeatables
Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 Quantum vs Primabridge Quantum Primabridge Primabridge Quantum N Nanev E Popov N S.Skorchev E J.Stefanov S Mihov W Andonov S B.Popov W V.Aronov Contract By M D N-S E-W Contract By M D N-S E-W 1N W 2 120 1N W 2 120 4♥ N 5 650 4♥ S 5 650 1N N 2 120 1N N 1 90 5♦ N 6 620 5♥ S 5 650 3♥ E 3 140 3♥ E 1 50 4♠ W 5 650 4♠ W 5 650 2♠ W 1 100 3♠ W 1 100 2♥ E 2 110 1N S 1 50 3♣ W 3 110 3♥ N 1 50 4♠ S 1 100 2♠ S 4 170 3N E 3 400 3N E 3 400 3N W 3 150 2♠ E 2 110 3N E 4 630 3N E 4 630 3♠ W 1 50 3♣ S 4 130 5♣ N 5 600 5♣ N 5 600 4♥ W 5 650 4♥ W 5 650 IMPs This segment Penalty Carryover total -1- Quantum 7 0 106 113 IMPs 1 - 1 - 5 - 2 - 2 - 7 6 - 3 7 20 Primabridge 20 0 57 77 References: BridgeBase online. Edited by M.Sugino Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 1N c 1N 1 1 this/total IMPs Quantum 106 Primabridge 57 W 2 120 W 2 120 ♠4 3 2 76 Q65 43 ♣A 4 2 ♠J6 N ♠K Q 7 5 854 A J10 9 W E A J87 2 S ♣ K10 8 6 ♣Q J 9 3 ♠ A10 9 8 KQ32 K10 9 ♣7 5 110 W: Andonov W 1N N: Nanev Open S: Mihov N E p 1 p p 7 7 8 6 9 E: Popov ¨ ª4,K,A,6 §6,4,Q,5 ©7,J,Q,4 §3,©2,§T,2 ª8,¨8,6,ª7 #1 N:: #3 W:: #5 N:: #7 E:: #9 S:: 5 6 5 6 3 S X p ªT,J,3,5 §9,7,8,A ª9,¨7,ª2,Q ©5,6,9,K #2 S:: #4 E:: #6 S:: #8 W:: lestergold: dim pips are such that a dim switch would do litle o help..p..1 !.. ..1N..p..p..p..♠4.. ♠K..♠A..♠6..♠T..♠J..♠3..♠5..♣6..♣4..♣Q.. ♣5..♣9..♣7..♣8..♣A lestergold: flat.. 7.. J.. Q.. 4..♠9.. 7..♠2.. ♠Q..♣3.. 2..♣T..♣2.. 5.. 6.. 9.. K..♠8.. 8 ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © ¨ © © © © © Board NS: EW: o 1N c 1N 1 1 this/total IMPs Primabridge 57 Quantum 106 W 2 120 W 2 120 ♠4 3 2 76 Q65 43 ♣A 4 2 ♠J6 N ♠K Q 7 5 854 A J10 9 W E A J87 2 S ♣ K10 8 6 ♣Q J 9 3 ♠ A10 9 8 KQ32 K10 9 ♣7 5 110 W: V.Aronov W 1N 7 7 8 6 9 N: S.Skorchev Closed E: J.Stefanov S: B.Popov N E S p 1 X p p p ª3,7,8,J §Q,7,8,2 ª2,K,A,6 §9,¨T,§T,¨5 ¨8,,, #1 N:: #3 E:: #5 N:: #7 E:: #9 W:: 5 6 5 6 3 ¨ §6,4,J,5 §3,©3,§K,A ªT,¨7,ª4,Q ¨A,3,2,9 #2 W:: #4 E:: #6 S:: #8 W:: ¨ barbyh: Good evening.. 6..♠7 mariner1: Hi Barbara barbyh: Hi Rob nice to see you marlowepi: looks like momentum should carry EW to 6S marlowepi: Hi Barbara frankaus: this one should get the pulses moving marlowepi: 6S X probably mariner1: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO-TV. Watch many vugraph rooms at the mariner1: same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need mariner1: Flash Player 9, some don’t, Open one browser window per table barbyh: absolutely sybarra: and here we go marlowepi: hi colleagues & specs barbyh: hi there sybarra: hello Mashall, welcome marlowepi: 4S seems par -2- Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) barbyh: yes sharkey: Good morning all - Snorri, Ralf, Ian & Tony wilkinsona: welcome to Japan everyone sharkey: still dark outside in Norway snorris: A fight to 5 is my bet sharkey: I like the Korean team name - "Happy ¨ Bridge" snorris: on top of 4 ♠ ralfwil: And a good safe in 5♠ sharkey: who will save over 5 ? mcarroll: hi all snorris: hi all werge: hi Walddk4 : Operator? Please insert an L in Klinger snorris: a 3nt e-w looks likly wilkinsona: HI Ed othered1: Hi, Tony! sybarra: http://www.jcbl.or.jp/game/nec/necfest.html wilkinsona: sorry, Tom wilkinsona: slam time first up snorris: 6 ♣ anyone? ralfwil: as the cards lir a grand ralfwil: lie.. sry snorris: 6 ♣ is a good contract wilkinsona: Hi Martin, Hans Walddk4: No Tony, but I heard about it. Wrong explanation by South to West that made him remove 2♠XX idblu: i understand we have the 11th and 12th place team playing each other...it is swiss teams format sybarra: not sure but hopefully thee Walddk4: Hello everyone and welcome back to Yokohama in Japan for the 14th NEC Cup. Last match of the qualifying. 14 boards sharkey: hi everyone Walddk4: Commentators are Carl Mathiesen, Mike Graham and Mike Polowan mdgraham: Good morning all - sunny day here in London fabsayc: rehi, both teams have 6 players roswolf: hi all Walddk5: Hello everyone and welcome back to Yokohama in Japan for the 14th NEC Cup. Final, last segment of 16 boards now roswolf: a close match now and the heat is on ovncylmz : Su an 80 takim 10 farkli grupta yarismaktalar eccone: herkese iyi aksamlar hosgeldiniz eccone: ˆ…stˆ…mˆ… degiltirdimde ¨ -3- eccone : ˆ¶vˆ…nc elma dersem cˆ‰k elma dersem kritik nafiz1: meraba Eymen, hg eccone: hb :) MolvaM: hoˆ geldiniz vugraphzkg: herkese iyi seyirler hoˆ geldiniz MolvaM: izmirde yapˆ‰lan tˆ…rkiye kˆ‰ˆ 4lˆ … takˆ‰mlar ˆ ampiyonasˆ‰nda gruplarda 6. maˆ§lar ovncylmz : kenana hemen taner nerde diye sorsam? ovncylmz: bana skorlari gonderecekti amma? vugraphzkg: :) ovncylmz: Selam herkese ovncylmz: Turkiye Kis 4lu Sampiyonalari 1/16 Knockout Maci ovncylmz: Izmir’de artik 16 takim kaldi riyilikci: hepiniz hoˆ geldiniz, kabexnuf: merhabalar herkese nafiz: hoˆ geldiniz ˆ vˆ…nˆ§, Koray, iyilikˆ§i ovncylmz : Kusadasi gunun surprizini yapip Istanbul-1 takimi Noname’i yendi riyilikci: herkese merhaba, belki ileride baˆ ka arkadaˆ larˆ‰mˆ‰z da bize katˆ‰labilir ama ˆ u an iˆ§in Mustafa Tokay ve ben sizlere bilgi vermeye ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ acaˆ ˆ‰z tokay1975: selamlar tokay1975: kg uzun suredir birlikte oynuyolar db ise bricte yeni diiler ama partnerlikleri yeni exerdar : en ˆ§ekiˆ meli knockout maˆ§ˆ‰ heralde, umarˆ‰z gˆ…zel bi oyun izleriz exerdar: k-g precision oynuyor yakop: http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php april7: hello everybody and good afternoon MolvaM: tekrar hoˆ geldi herkes riyilikci: hoˆ geldiniz, Erdinˆ§ Erbil ve Mustafa Tokay bize yorumlarˆ‰yla katkˆ‰da bulunacak MolvaM: yarˆ‰ final son devreye hoˆ geldiniz vugraphzkg: iyi aksamlar herkese MolvaM: 16 bord sonunda finalist takˆ‰mlar belli olacak koksoy: herkese iyi aksamlar arigun: son devre skorlar cok yakin, heyecanli bir 16 board seyredegiz arigun: Enver Koksoy, Levent Ozgul degerli yorumlari ile bizlere katilacaklar MolvaM: tˆ…rkiye ˆ ampiyonasˆ‰ final maˆ§ˆ‰ ilk devresine hoˆ geldiniz MolvaM: final 16ˆ ar bordluk 4 devreden oluˆ acak vugraphzkg: gˆ…naydˆ‰n herkese nezihk: gˆ…naydˆ‰n, Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) MolvaM: final maˆ§ˆ‰ 2. devreye hoˆ geldiniz MolvaM: maˆ§ˆ‰n ilk devresi oldukˆ§a alˆ‰ˆ veriˆ li geˆ§ti. tyavuz: hoˆ bulduk:) tokay1975: selamlar vugraphzkg: ozur dileriz kucuk bi teknik hata oldu hemen gerei donecegiz thommos: Hi all..p caitlin: hi folks shevek: here we are, 13 imps to catch up (will try to be impartial : ) nafiz1: ˆ vˆ…nc birazdan katilacak MolvaM: 1 keycard dˆ‰ˆ arˆ‰da grandˆ lem oynamak isteyenler iˆ§in fˆ‰rsat kervanˆ‰ bu el koksoy: eski partner... eski takˆ‰m... sevdigimiz arkadaslar anlatˆ‰mˆ‰ zor bir mac olacak marlowepi: as expected so far..1 !..11-15p, 1+! D barbyh: hey Marshall mariner1: both rooms are starting with board 1 so we will see results as we go snorris: not likely wilkinsona: well lets hope for more excitment this match Walddk4: So the score was adjusted to 2♠XX down 4 = 2200 snorris: hi all idblu : S is Brazilian internationalist Diego Brenner cindy: hi all wilkinsona: Hi everyone xenya: This is Part 1 of a semifinal match athene: 4♠ might be reached athene: and should go down, losing ♠AQ A A ahollan1: hello - Fred, Joe, Michael idblu: Looks like the Chineses Women are the cinderella team at the tourney :) idblu: And they have also played stupendous .. ahollan1: for convention cards of players - check out: http://tinyurl.com/Japan-Open-2007 and http://tinyurl.com/Chinese-Women-2008 santyclz: Good hand for garbage stayman. idblu: pass anything :) xenya: Japan Open have a substantial lead China Women, but there are 32 boards ahead eccone: alert ne acep? eccone: hmm ovncylmz: kuzey guney zayif nt oynuyor deniz_t: siz de hg niz ovncylmz: Bodrum’da Mersin Bˆ B’yi yenerek bu tura geldi ¨ ¨ © ovncylmz: Diger 14takimsa: riyilikci: selamlar hoˆ geldiniz exerdar: 1 10-15 0+ relrikas: slm herkese ii seyirler tokay1975: selamlar eerbil: selamlar nezihk: ˆ§eyrek ve yarˆ‰ finallerde ilgi ˆ§ekici ¨ ¨ eller geldi, inˆ allah finalde de birbirinden gˆ…zel oyunlar seyrederiz mcarroll: Morning Hans, Vladimir.. xenya : The other 2 teams are Australia and Chinese Women xenya: strong ♣ from E ovncylmz: 12-14 eccone: Herkese selamlar deniz_t: hg niz eymen arkadaˆ emre kaya: yarˆ‰ final elleri yanlˆ‰slˆ‰kla aˆ§ ˆ‰ldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k bi bekleme oldu herkese yeni ellerde iyi seyirler MolvaM: final maˆ§ˆ‰ son devreye hoˆ geldiniz sybarra: we will get names as soon as operator has time to put them in ..1N wilkinsona: Unfortunately Ian is trying to be with us, but "gagged" at the moment sharkey: suit may "disappear" ralfwil: Had anyone of you opened on N? werge : Yoy have problems in 3 NT - East is somehow endplayed... wilkinsona: so the Hacket team came back to win from 40-0 down xenya: Hello Martin athene: but i think even with 13 imps to make up, bidding game wld be aggressive athene: 3 will be a 3-card limit raise, i guess shevek: fit showing jump maybe? yo_yo: it’s a strong Australian team Klinger and Delmonte are very well known yo_yo: I dont know the other 2 but surely well known also sharkey: Would anyone open the East hand 1♣? athene: east has the sort of hand that can be very aggressive facing 4-card spade support but less so facing only 3 athene: weak trumps and possibility of getting forced in hearts yo_yo : clubs are where my points are, yes i would shevek: absolutely an opening hand ahollan1: but EW weren’t part of the team in 2008, so we’ll have to guess what they’re doing Walddk5 : Your commentators are Geoffrey Wolfarth, Jos Jacobs, Mark Horton and Kath ¨ ¨ © -4- Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Nelson aruf: herkese gˆ…naydˆ‰n ovncylmz: dogu bati polish club tarzi bir sistem riyilikci: herkese selamlar arigun: K tek toplama gibi bir problemde yok :) barbyh: par 11..p mcarroll: Now thats what I call a heavyweight overcall - after a featherlight opening! wilkinsona: strong club to start cindy: lead i think Walddk4: Hello everyone and welcome back to Yokohama in Japan for the 14th NEC Cup. Quarter-finals, two segments of 16 boards. This is the first ahollan1: welcome to first set of knockout phase of 2009 NEC b_eymen: selamlar fahir: merhabalar:) exerdar: yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran macˆ‰nda 7 bordunu merak edenler iˆ§in -1 oldu:) riyilikci: Selamlar, artˆ‰k seyircilerimizin ˆ§oˆ u ˆ¶ˆ rendi ama, ˆ zbey-Koˆ§ ˆ§ifti kuvvetli♣, 1416 1NT, 2♣ ve 2 11-15 5+renk 4 maj yok, koza bˆ…yˆ…k, NT kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k apel oynuyorlar tokay1975: 4spxe dusunduyse kuzey xx demeyi dusunmus olmali operatorden ogrenebiliriz marlowepi : not an ideal start, but shouldnt matter..p barbyh: normal sequence snorris: if n shows life then not snorris: :) fabsayc: hi folks cindy: i just see 6 tricks sybarra: hi cindy cindy: hi shirley :) bg: normal contract probably off one two tricks in three suits plus spade ace thommos: assume X is for Takeout mpny: Hackett will open 1H which will make reaching 4H routine idblu: I think S and E would like to be somewhere else at this moment in time:) sybarra2 : Operator, I have told E name is WangWenfei Walddk5: But since they started 5 mins early, they are not all here yet ovncylmz: Izmir Buyuksehir Belediyesi Beyaz takimi grubun seribasi takimi, Nafiz Zorlu, Salvador Assael, Ozgur Bakan, Mert Bilgen, Bulent Aslan, Ibrahim Mumcuoglu kadrodaki oyuncular riyilikci: herkese selam, yorumcu arkadaˆ ˆ‰m © ¨ ¨ -5- Zafer ˆ engˆ…ler ve ben sizlere yardˆ‰mcˆ‰ olmaya ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ acaˆ ˆ‰z sengulerz: mrb Rahmi, mrb arkadaˆ lar ovncylmz: Deniz, Valentino, Burdur, Prosan, Ekˆ i, ˆ zmir Bˆ B Beyaz, Yilankiran, Jr. Yilankiran, Epsilon Bornova, Isparta Briˆ§, Varoˆ lu, Zabunoˆ lu ve Sarp ovncylmz: Herkese merhabalar, Turkiye Kis 4lu Finallerinde ceyrek finale gelindi ovncylmz: ˆ ki Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran takiminin mucadelesini birlikte izleyecegiz exerdar: selamlar:) mariner1: contract in Open is 5♠ DBL..p snorris: no 3 nt now I guess sharkey: gd morning Mike mpny: good morning mpny: or late nite here sharkey: 4 makeable here? Walddk4 : Commentators are Al, Ed, Joe and Martin’ santyclz: Hi folks. werge: 3♣ look surprising? idblu: re all :) vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 riyilikci: teknik bir aksaklˆ‰k nedeniyle geciktik, ˆ¶zˆ…r dileriz sharkey: 2♠ rather timid?..♠3 snorris: in my system I open 2 nt snorris: give it 3..the law.. snorris: 3 ♠ wilkinsona: Hi Martin idblu : W recently won a North Ameruican championship at the recent nationals playing with Steve Katz I believe idblu: I see The Netherlands was in 1st prior to the last match...so these 2 must be the leaders or very close to the top of the standings sharkey: real late mike? mpny: yes it is ahollan1: IF EW using same convention card as 2007 Bermuda Bowl -- we’ll see some 10-13 NT openers [fav 1/2/3] caitlin: Hi folks:) othered1: Hi, everyone caitlin: hi Ed ahollan1: according to CC west’s balancing NT was supposed to be (12)13-15 ahollan1: evening Ed, Joe, Caitlin caitlin: http://www.jcbl.or.jp/game/nec/necfest.html © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) is homepage ahollan1: and Martin! othered1: west may not play south for the 6count caitlin: hi Joe and Al:) caitlin: and Martin ahollan1: well, there’s 6 count and there’s the South hand othered1: Do we know if north’s 1♠ is a limited opening? ahollan1 : ♠ J looks like normal play -- then either or [probably ] caitlin: 8 teams have qualified for quarter finals these teams 4th-5th respectively and between 4th8 teams only 5 VP difference athene: opening 1♣ with 5-5 in the blacks can certainly lead to a much smoother auction if partner has a good hand santyclz: Fearless. ahollan1: NS 1N=10-12 1/2/3 not-vul otherwise (14)15-17 sybarra2: when operator gets a chance, will make changes I am sure roswolf: well n/s might bid the slam herehere but eccone: gˆ…neyin agresif 4 basˆ‰na iˆ aˆ§tˆ ‰ gibi eccone: 3 denilse rakip 4♠ zor der heralde eccone: batˆ‰ demesse demezˆ ler eccone: ˆ imdi mecbur kaldˆ‰ arigun : turnuva ile detay bilgilere, sonuclar, butler siralama, bilgilere http://clubs.vugraph.com /tbricfed/teams_event.php?event=172&stage=368 riyilikci: oynayan yere geˆ§emese iˆ ler kolay olacaktˆ‰. tokay1975: selamlar arigun: Yorumcularimiz, Haldun Vahaboglu, Ismail Kandemir, Mustafa Cem Tokay, hosgeldiniz yakop: slm rahmi wilkinsona: strangley, south sold out to 3 spades OR..♠7 othered1 : So west will bid her hand out in natural order, rather than first sybarra: and I am looking for which Hackett this is mpny: the auction also made it likely to guess D athene: but most people these days prefer to get their major in yo_yo: for those who like to picture the players here is a link for delmonte: http://www.worldbridge.org /TOURN/Bermuda.00/vugraph/players/profiles/ 0162.html shevek: at this vulnerability they’re not very ¨ © ¨ © © © keen eccone: baya MolvaM: gˆ…naydˆ‰n herkese :) MolvaM: 2♣ aˆ§ˆ‰sˆ‰nˆ‰n ortaˆ ˆ‰ daha ˆ§ ok keycard soruyor bu turnuvada tokay1975: 1h acisi iyinetice verdi 4dia 1iceri riyilikci: ˆ zbey-Koˆ§ kuvvetli ♣, 14-161NT, 2♣ ve 2 5+ renk 4 maj yok 11-15, 1 0+ 11-15 koza bˆ…yˆ…k sanzatuya kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k apel oynuyor sharkey: That’s a popular Scandinavian convention 2 NT = 55 in minors < opening..♠8 snorris: 3 showing 5 idblu: Hi Cindy, Tony idblu: change that to Ralph Katz :) irwinbo: it looks like no game makes cindy: W wont let pd off the hook mdgraham: err... roswolf: :) ovncylmz: Diyarbakir Diski elimdeki bilgilere gore Diyarbakir 3.su olarak katilma hakki elde etmis. M. Serif Camci, Ekrem Ozcikan, Baki Demirhan, Tahir Demirhan, Zana Akay ve Besir ... ovncylmz: Ekinci’den olusuyor kadrolari deniz_t: gˆ…zel kontrat vugraphzkg: tkˆ‰m kadrolarˆ‰ ve konvansyon kartlarˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 vugraphzkg: takˆ‰m kadrolarˆ‰ ve konvansyon kartlarˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz sengulerz: 1nt gf miˆ arigun: Rahmi Iyilikci ev sahibimiz, selam rahmi tez: gunaydin:) riyilikci: selam eerbil: gˆ…naydˆ‰n koksoy: bu sette en az 6-7 tane slemle ilgili kanlˆ‰ eller gelecek diye tahmin ediyorum ... grand slemle basladˆ‰k vahaboglu: 3NT biraz fazla gibi yakop: ataktan 6 oldu frankaus: the play will not be challenging..♠J snorris: 5 ♣ then mcarroll: hard to see what else snorris: no 3nt snorris: I presime snorris: presume ralfwil: I don´·t like the D from E sharkey: ouch ¨ ¨ © -6- Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) caitlin: does anyone know what happened with the appeal? ahollan1: I don’t have CC for any of the China Evertrust partnerships :( but a good bet that they’ re part of the Precision throng caitlin: would think so and I have yet to find cc’s santyclz: Rather a surprise on trick 1. othered1: might be right to bid with the south hand, then, as Ew could have game fabsayc : hi all, not sure why he did not play spade jack caitlin: will cost santyclz: I can only guess he didn’t read it as 4th best. Many people would lead the 10 from that holding. othered1: maybe playing north for A109xx(x) ahollan1: even if North’s lead conventionally from A109xx or Q109xx -- when is it wrong to play !J? othered1: Depending on what NS lead from that holding idblu: 10 makes a nice entry to the ♣’s ahollan1: over weak NT --- DBL of Stayman = GOOD HAND [vs Strong NT - better to show ♣ or something conventional] arigun: linkinden ulasabilirsiniz ovncylmz: Gunaydin herkese kabexnuf: merhabalar ovncylmz: Turkiye Kis Dortlu Finalleri Grup Maclari 4. Tur maci ovncylmz: Kuzey Guney ust duzey artifisyel bir sistem oynamaktalar, guzel bir mac izleyecegimizden eminim aruf : J grubunun kritik maclarˆ‰ndan birini seyrediyoruz dadim: slm nafiz: hoˆ geldin irfan eccone: declaran oynadˆ‰gˆ‰ndagˆ…neyin 10 lu vermesi lazˆ‰m arigun: maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰ http://clubs.vugraph.com /tbricfed/teams_event.php?event=172&stage=369 yakop: 3 nt de iyi kaldilar kuvvetli tref oynamasalar 5 minorden once duramazlardˆ‰ muhtemelen ozgull: kˆ‰ˆ 4lˆ…ler arasˆ‰nda en ˆ§ok ˆ lem ve gˆ lem eli bu turnuvda geldi heralde sybarra: heard the screach of brakes ..♣6 marlowepi: S needs to bid 4S here snorris: well done ralfwil: Hello again! mcarroll: 3NT I mean werge: 10 of ♣ now,pls! wilkinsona: doubtless game forcing now ¨ © -7- ralfwil: which resulted in a fair punishment thommos: lucky South didn’t X for t/o sybarra: hello all aruf: Burdur 3 maˆ§ta 75 vp topladˆ‰ dadim: saolun riyilikci: herkese gˆ…naydˆ‰n riyilikci: bu maˆ§ˆ‰n VG saati BBOya yanlˆ‰ˆ iletilmiˆ , ama bu devre sonunda turnuva salonunu deˆ iˆ tireceˆ imiz iˆ§in devreyi ˆ¶ne almˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰ k vahaboglu: herkese gˆ…naydˆ‰n riyilikci : ˆ zbey-Koˆ§ kuvvetli trefl, 1 0+, 1Maj5li, 2♣ ve 2 5+dengesiz 4 maj yok 14-16 NT oynuyorlar MolvaM: bu maˆ§ta zabunoˆ lu ciddi 1 avantaj saˆ lamˆ‰ˆ durumda ama maˆ§ˆ‰n bitimine daha 32 bord var. dolayˆ‰sˆ‰ ile herˆ ey olabilir riyilikci: 2nt=11-15 5-5 minˆ¶rler MolvaM: 3. devreye hoˆ geldiniz tokay1975: selamlar Walddk4: Morning Snorri and Ralf..♣4 ralfwil: hello again! mcarroll: Yes an amazing set - 2 grand slams in a row and lots of swing boards sybarra: Paul H. I am told ahollan1: and if 4th best [ugh] then Rule of 11 would make J automatic sharkey : sensible stop NV - E may have bid game VUL due to potential payoff shevek: not sure he’ll make this sharkey: u read my mind Nicoleta:) athene: K now? ahollan1: the other Chinese Women were playing Precision - so until proven otherwise, let’s assume EW also big ♣ers eccone: J10 sek gibi yane eccone: kalˆ‰rsa deniz_t: :) riyilikci: aˆ§ˆ‰k kart gˆ¶rˆ…p kuzeyin as piki ˆ§ ekmesini ˆ¶nermek bizim iˆ§in kolay marlowepi: even though 3S is forcing, N might think that it suggests alternatives to the eventual 4S that S would bid..♣J cindy: hi :) ralfwil: My bid on E is 4♠ werge: But the best board in this tournament was by far 6 one down - and 7 making at the other table. And declarer in 6 played perfectly... werge: Yesterday marlowepi: buddy? werge: ♠-lead = expensive mcarroll: The 1♠ opening and aggressive auction ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) by NS keeps EW out of a making 4♠? roswolf: definitely bid the slam Walddk5: Good morning to Jos Jacobs roswolf: hi jos josj: hi Roland and Geoffrey :) josj: good to see a probably tense final session coming up Walddk5: and good morning to Mark Horton arigun: herkese merhaba aruf: Deniz takˆ‰mˆ‰ ise 59 vp ile 3. sˆ‰rada vulkan: Aydoˆ dular kuvvetli trefli, revers canape oynuyorlar sengulerz: Q ve 10 lu D’da olunca 5 tane ♣ ve 3 tane ˆ§ekilince double sqz yapˆ‰p +1 olacak arigun: Hoˆ geldin Nafiz abi exerdar: selam herkese, biraz zor oldu baˆ lamak :) koksoy: tabi bir key card dˆ‰sarda oldugu icin slem oynanacak MolvaM: bu gerˆ§ek mi? vugraphzkg: evet koksoy: o lala... MolvaM: ben bunu yapsam pik as dˆ‰ˆ arˆ‰da olur hemen arigun: sigan+key card anlasmasinda bir sorun cikti belliki, okan 7 dedi ve sansi yaver gidiyor MolvaM : demek iyi oyunculuk bˆ¶yle birˆ ey oluyor arigun: disardaki key card heran ♠A olabilirdi vugraphzkg: rua tekle bekleyen westin yerinde olmak istemezdim :) marlowepi: welcome cindy..♣5 sybarra: hi cindy sharkey: The "Happy Tea" off to a flyinf start as 5 likely to make mcarroll: Hi Ralf cindy: S getting nervous about being endplayed i guess cindy: thinking of unblocking to avoid it marlowepi: GF hands usually7 don;t idblu: appears to off 2 1 and 1♣ cindy: welcome marshall marlowepi: hi all wilkinsona: tricky lead ralfwil: E has a minimum for 1nt thommos: 2♠ was making, but how many down is is 3 caitlin: 5♣X will yield a nice score for N-S a half Canadian/half U.S. team caitlin: Mori is originally from Tokyo so has advantage of speaking language xenya: 4♠ is easy -- NS had a profitable save © ¨ ¨ ¨ © © available vbman: hi all MolvaM: hoˆ geldiniz MolvaM: tolga ˆ¶zbay 5-4 majˆ¶rˆ… olan 6-7 puanlˆ‰k 1 el gˆ¶sterdi ovncylmz: Selam herkese MolvaM: cem altan ise 3 pik diyerek kararˆ‰ orta ˆ ˆ‰na bˆ‰raktˆ‰ vugraphzkg: slm ekrem hoˆ geldin arigun: ilk board gidip elini yuzunu yikamak zorunda kalacak zavalli okay vahaboglu: deklere olarak 2 NT uygun olur diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yorum tez: mrb:)kolay gelsin snorris: dont know about 2 nt in Scandinavia but in my version it is a kind of multi, covering some strong versions..♣Q sharkey: In Norway usually weak 55 hand snorris: ok wilkinsona: even 12 tricks possible.. wilkinsona: ..and a good choice it seems sharkey: ok - undo caitlin: sorry just put on right glasses:) caitlin: lol chessmaste: From a sunny Bath Walddk5: My bath is wet arigun: bu yil ankara kis 4lu kupasi degisik bir formatta oynaniyor aruf: bizim grup olduˆ u iˆ§in bizide ilgilendiren bir maˆ§ MolvaM: muhtemelen 3 pik de batacaktˆ‰ zaten ovncylmz: agresif zonlar serisi devam ediyor galiba:) ovncylmz: kis 4lu grup elemeleri hep boyle midir murat abi? ne diyorsun? arigun: iyi aksamlar eccone: j10x ten 10 vermenin hic bi kaybˆ‰ yok belki yanˆ‰ltˆ‰labilir riyilikci: gene de ˆ§ekmesi daha iyi bir oyun ama kaˆ§ kiˆ i ˆ§eker asˆ‰ bilmem exerdar: zor bi 3nt le baˆ ladˆ‰ oyun riyilikci: ˆ zbey ve Koˆ§ kuvvetli trefl 14-16NT 2cl ve 2d 11-15 2NT minˆ¶rler 11-15 riyilikci: i dedi? ralfwil: now 12 tricks..♣7 wilkinsona: missed that one...Rolands got me on split shifts snorris: where south fell asleep? idblu: safe lead, gives nothing away santyclz : The other table had a normal 2/1 auction to the unenviable 2♠. ahollan1: but ed -- which holding can north have -8- Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) where it is EVER right to play small from dummy? ovncylmz: Iste heyecan dolu baslayis:) aruf: umarˆ‰z herkes seyirden keyf alˆ‰r aruf: Deniz takˆ‰mˆ‰ iˆ§in kˆ¶tˆ… bir baˆ langˆ ‰ˆ§ MolvaM : eee kimse bu kadar yolu partskor oynamaya gelmedi ya :) snorris: right..♣8 sharkey: 11 IMPs here fabsayc: i wonder what 3 meant wilkinsona: a nice auction to a sound contract then cindy: another decision cindy: to duck or not to duck that is the question ralfwil: how many of you should double on E? yo_yo: good morning from a frosty Manchester xenya: interesting hand -- 4♠ looks very close for EW werge: They sacrifice against their olwn 4 ♠... xenya: :) ralfwil: Now W can make 5♣ if N continues with © ¨ MolvaM: izmirde yapˆ‰lan kˆ‰ˆ 4lˆ… takˆ‰ mlar ˆ ampiyonasˆ‰ finalleri koksoy: ahmet bize de 5 saniyede 18 el alˆ ‰yorum diye elini acmˆ‰stˆ‰ :) vugraphzhn: 1st and 3rd position here, we will try to get scores from Sjˆ¶berg-Bergstrˆ¶m who is second placed.......♣2 ralfwil: But why not a ♠ lead? a lead is missing a tempo wilkinsona: a couple of clubs can be ruffed for 11 tricks werge: Yes othered1: a109xxx fabsayc: A109xx playing small, suit blocked caitlin: yes go to www.bbotv.com/vugraph to see open room caitlin : has to set up hearts but W will play spades caitlin: down one ovncylmz: harikulade:) thommos: and 9 switch..♣3 othered1: or Q109xxx josj: hi Mark :) roswolf: sipping champagne as well i suppose mark chessmaste: Good morning Jos! ovncylmz: kuzey guney natural 5li major, 2 multiden olusan bir sisteme sahip MolvaM: hoˆ geldin tezcan riyilikci: kuzey2s mi dedi © © ¨ -9- tokay1975: 10lu cl ustunde bi onor vaadediyor fabsayc: ruffing spades is easier.. 3 bg: duck is correct declarer may only have three © dia cindy: now a club would be good ? snorris: when w finessed s ralfwil: lucku split! K98 ralfwil: lucky sharkey: Defence not missing a beat here ahollan1: after ♣A not taken early - declarer will ¨ ¨ ¨ get last repreive when J falls chessmaste: de reigeur on Valentines Day josj: cold and sunny here as well Walddk5: Good morning to Kath Nelson Walddk5: Now they are all here snorris: awful lead..♣K xenya: perhaps 4♠ can be defeated by repeated leads though ahollan1: sorry Fred already said that :( tez: iyi aksamlar..iyi seyirler:) xenya: 3N looks a reasonable contract here -actually an easy make..♣A sybarra: tough to time all the finesses you need here chessmaste: The au pair has just opened the Krug Rosˆ' yo_yo: good morning from Manchester deniz_t: iyi akˆ amlar arigˆ…n riyilikci: Valentino ve Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran takˆ‰mlar ˆ‰ rakipleri ˆ§ekildiˆ i iˆ§in ilk ˆ§eyrek finalistler oldular daman: not so sure about easy to make..♠2 fabsayc: hard to see how this was allowed to make santyclz: Bears repeating. josj: lol roswolf: hi kath josj: hi Kath aruf: batˆ‰ agresif baˆ ladˆ‰ exerdar: karolya devam ederse yapacak gibi nezihk: salvo atak baˆ ladˆ‰ riyilikci : Aslan-Mumcuoˆ lu 2/1, multi 2 oynuyorlar MolvaM: her iki takˆ‰m da kadrolarˆ‰nda 1 ˆ§ ift deˆ iˆ tirmiˆ ler xenya: admittedly, on a fortunate lie..♠K sybarra: not so sure its "easy make" either daman: double dummy male vugraphzhn: Fredin in the tank snorris: openers prime suit wilkinsona: sorry I meant spades of course snorris: more luck ¨ ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) idblu: from the grave:) thommos: this should now make 8 werge: The problem is, that a double from West is take-out - and you are caught Walddk4: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO-TV. 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Walddk4: Open one browser window per table athene: if he led the A, he was threatening to reach dummy in clubs and throw his diamonds on the QJ athene: so south might have cashed the A but that wld kill the entry for the club ruff chessmaste: Solid slam bidding eccone: db nin iyi eli eccone: iyi aksamlaer eccone: wc tokay1975: okay3sp deseydi 4luh slam daveti yapacakti ama elini buna deger bulmadi iyide yapti vahaboglu: 9-10 HCP ile uyandˆ‰rˆ‰ldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…lˆ…rse ralfwil: hi Martin!..♠A ralfwil: needs to play ♣ before ♠..♠6 sybarra: needs to play clubs now sybarra: sorry for the echo Ralf panja: hi all ralfwil: Hello Panja mcarroll: hi snorris: south thinking about the J of s? snorris: might be right against another layout panja : a small and then ♠ shift by North would lead to some interesting situation ralfwil: Agree with a small ahollan1: Q109xx possible, but pass from south holding ♠A very unlikely -- so maybe playing for stiff or doubleton ♠Q is right caitlin: 4♠ also down one on lead but likely get club lead athene: so it wld be a strange complicated sort of scissors coup santyclz: Suit preference discard by e, suggesting strength. arigun: toplam 82 takimin katilimi ile yapilan turnuava 80 takimin 10 grupta mucadelesi ile round robin olarak basladi MolvaM: bugˆ…n baˆ ladˆ‰ dadim: ovunc a takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰n sistemi tam olarak nedir 1 aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ larˆ‰ ve 2ler ovncylmz: KG 1nt 12-14 © © ¨ © © © ¨ © ¨ ovncylmz: 2 multi kabexnuf: merhabalar ovncylmz: 2kor/pik 5li ovncylmz: acar ele kadar ovncylmz: :) ovncylmz: 1c uzerine transferleri oynuyorlar dadim: a takˆ‰mˆ‰ aydˆ‰ndan geldi vugraphzkg: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ teams_event.php?event=172&stage=368 vugraphzkg: maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰ ve butler sonuˆ§ larˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz ovncylmz: 4.maclar girildi mi? panja: perhaps, W will have to go up with a to block.....♠T b_eymen: ♣ MolvaM: izmir takˆ‰mˆ‰ ˆ¶zgˆ…r bakan mert bilgen ˆ§ifti yerine mumcuoˆ lu aslan ile oynuyor tez: mrb:)kolay gelsin tokay1975: 2sp 4lu sp gosterdi sanirim 18 19 dengeli gecerken 4lu spini gosterdi zaferde tercih birakti sybarra: Found the teams roster, it is Paul Hackett .. 7 santyclz: n-s seem to be playing udca. Walddk4: Hello Vladimir and Martin riyilikci: ankara derbisi ile karˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰zdayˆ‰z yakop: ilk el okadar tutuk oynannmaz genelde zonlar oluyomu diye check etmek lazim:) MolvaM: izmir bˆ…yˆ…kˆ ehir 24 ˆ¶nde ve 4 devreli final maˆ§ˆ‰nˆ‰n 3. devresindeyiz mdgraham: It would seem that South thought that 3 would be forcing after the 2♠ cue - but in that case, 3 would also be forcing (I assume) ..♠4 marlowepi: i am not sure what the advantage might be of playing a third heart..♠Q shevek: oops mcarroll: Morning Vladimir b_eymen: iyi defans eccone: claim ralfwil: bad defence!..♣9 idblu: will always lose 2 unless AQ alone on his left ahollan1: sorry that should have been Q109xx NOT possible eccone: takˆ‰mlarˆ‰ tanˆ‰yormuyuz? eccone: ˆ imdi declaranˆ‰n kˆ…cˆ…k oynamaktan baska caresi kalmadˆ‰ wilkinsona: so in trying to defeat this contract active defence makes declarers life easy.. T fabsayc: but running the spades was also poor technique © ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ - 10 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) athene: sorry if declarer led the the ©A ©K i mean not arigun: eleme turlarinda gruplarindan ilk 3 sirayi alan takimlar knock out turuna devam edecek eccone: ˆ… MolvaM: zabunoˆ lu nda ise irfan-zafer yerine zabunoˆ lu-kahraman var mdgraham: and, let’s face it, AKJ876 may be worth a mention ..♣T othered1: still not making this with another ♣ xenya: but 5♣ is extremely costly yo_yo: same contract in OR MolvaM: isimler ve bayraklar lˆ…tfennnn mpank61: slm ovncylmz: dogu batinin ise modifiye 5li major, 14-18 1nt ve multi oynadiklarini soyleyebiliriz. Ayrica NT ye karsi suction ile defans yapiyorlarmis sybarra: getting easier .. 5 cindy: down 2 in open irwinbo: still a good game to bid and it should be replicated in the other room ralfwil: and a nice defence werge: This will bring a morning-score xenya: -800 to be exact josj: that’s what one would expect.. A arigun: belki sabah magmurlugu belki vugraph stresi, normalde cokda fazlasi olmayan bir el, rakip NT acmis cevapcisi kompertisyon yapacak puani var, ortagin fit ve puan olmadigi belli ... arigun: birakmasi lazim muhakkak ralfwil: This is one of the weaknesses, allowing a 5-card major in a nt-opening.. 3 werge: +8000... werge: 800 shevek: defence erred here yo_yo : here’s a nice pic of Fruewirth: http:// www.moamabowlingclub.com.au/images/RobertFruewirth.jpg athene: south didn’t visualise declarer with all those clubs MolvaM: vugraf operatˆ¶rˆ…mˆ…zden isimleri girmesini rica edelim deniz_t: seni duymadˆ‰ capycino eymen kardeˆ im:) arigun: herkese merhaba vahaboglu: Zorlu 3NT der zaten vahaboglu: tutukluk yapmazdˆ‰ yo_yo: ty elmer for that.. 2 shevek: http://www.moamabowlingclub.com.au/ images/Robert-Fruewirth.jpg athene: this is a typical example of why people open 1♠ rather than 1♣ :) © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 11 - athene: you are most likely to play spades most of the time, and often you get an extra trick from concealing the side suit sharkey: yes - nowadays minor suits are almost ignored arigun: ankara-1 ve istanbul-1 takimlari turnuvaya 32 takimlik knock-out turundan diretk olarak baslayaca b_eymen: slm hg wilkinsona: Even if East bids more strongly in spades, surely NS would go on in diamonds...dont really understand south selling out in OR.. 9 ahollan1: i’m not sure what the appeal was all about - or who was involved, but posted standings after swiss qualifying had China Evertrust 5th and Japan Open 4th caitlin: yes sengulerz: 2 tur ˆ… de ˆ§ekince iˆ lem tamam idblu: ready to claim...... 8 vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 riyilikci: herkese selam, vulkan : mert ˆ§akmamakta ˆ‰srar etti fakat defans daha ˆ‰srarcˆ‰ ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰p onu kˆ‰saltt ˆ‰ tokay1975: selamlar eerbil: karolar bˆ¶yle olmasaydˆ‰ okay iˆ§in zor bir karar olacaktˆ‰ bˆ…tˆ…n kozlarˆ‰ ˆ§ektiˆ i iˆ§in tez: 2 ya 2♠ ile baslamak nasil fikir? eerbil: bence olmasˆ‰ gereken 2♠ tez: birisi haber versin..farketmez ¨ © ¨ ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 4 c 4 © © 2 this/total IMPs Quantum 106 Primabridge 57 N 5 650 S 5 650 2 9 ♠ K10 6 3 8 A9765 11 8 KQ 6 ♣7 6 ♠Q 7 N ♠A J 9 4 2 Q3 82 W E 9532 J10 8 S ♣ K Q10 9 4 ♣J52 ♠8 5 4 5 K J10 4 2 A764 4 ♣A 8 3 7 650 W: Andonov W p 2♠ p ¨J,4,2,Q ©5,2,K,3 §6,5,A,9 ª5,7,K,A #1 E:: #3 N:: #5 N:: #7 S:: N: Nanev Open S: Mihov N E p 1 1♠ 4 p lestergold: best play wopuld be win club cash kq dims heart to the k and then lead a spade towards hand tc.. J ndemirev: still may lose 1 imp here .. 4.. 2.. Q lestergold: we can ee that 5 will roll in on almost any reasonable line ofplay lestergold: just 2 spades to lose ndemirev: i bet on making 4.. K.. 8.. 6.. 3 lestergold : well there is some equity in an overruff of spades by the q hearts to hold it to 4.. 5.. 2.. K.. 3 lestergold: not now tho.. J.. Q.. A ndemirev: not anymore :) .. 8..♣6..♣5..♣A roswolf: :)..♣9.. A.. 5 roswolf: flat..♣7.. T..♠5..♠7..♠K..♠A ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © E: Popov S 1 2 p ¨ © © © ¨ © ¨ § ¨ #2 N:: K,8,6,3 #4 S:: J,Q,A,8 #6 S:: A,5, 7, T roswolf: straightforward hand i think lestergold: another not terribly exciting hand likely to be flattish roswolf: no reason to anticipate a swing vugraphb1: yes... but Primabridge needs something more exotic lestergold: yes singy hands urgently needed by the underdogs here..p..1 !..p..1 roswolf: and to come out on the right side of the exotic hands lestergold: swingy i mean ndemirev: ♣ lead is the only one that creates some problem ..1♠..2 ..2♠..4 ..p..p..p lestergold: hardly much of a problem ndemirev: but won’t change teh result unless declarer take a view roswolf: imo it will take some remarkable play for n/s to lose heavily on this hand ndemirev: yes ¨ © © © - 12 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 4 c 4 © © 2 this/total IMPs Primabridge 57 Quantum 106 N 5 650 S 5 650 2 9 ♠ K10 6 3 8 A9765 11 8 KQ 6 ♣7 6 ♠Q 7 N ♠A J 9 4 2 Q3 82 W E 9532 J10 8 S ♣ K Q10 9 4 ♣J52 ♠8 5 4 5 K J10 4 2 A764 4 ♣A 8 3 7 650 W: V.Aronov W 2♣ p p N: S.Skorchev Closed E: J.Stefanov S: B.Popov N E S p 1 2 2♠ 3 4 p p §K,6,5,A ¨K,8,6,3 ©5,8,K,Q ª5,7,K,A #1 W:: #3 N:: #5 N:: #7 S:: ¨ © ¨ © ¨ © ¨ § ¨ #2 S:: 4,2,Q,T #4 N:: A,2,4,3 #6 S:: A,5, 7, J marlowepi: W bid 5S in a flash. 6S is a gamble, obviously not to everyone’s taste. but E’s single most probable total of major suit cards is 9, so with so many minor suit values working, the ... marlowepi: slam is a reasonable gamble. 5S is the safe bid of course marlowepi: personally i think the game would be greatly improved if bidding and making 5M paid more than 4M with an overtrick snorris: very strange, n opened 1 !! wilkinsona: ...so a happy start for NS panja: 4♠ for NW here... panja: NS even snorris: there are many 11 counts here Werge any opening bids? sybarra: 2 imps sybarra: website for tourney werge: One more 7 NT... wilkinsona: well Im not sure about that..... but ¨ - 13 - we hoped for more action snorris: another weakness is the inability of not being able to inviting slam in minor idblu: a push as suggested thommos: :) ralfwil: For me a D from W is for penalty and 2nt is forcing for one round sharkey: yes - not sure I understand S bidding yo_yo: the redouble looked odd to me caitlin: this is why I tell my students NOT to underlead Aces vs suit contracts:) yo_yo: now we need pics of the chinese ladies anyone oblige? ahollan1: well last time i held 23 and heard LHO open 1N -- we didn’t find a making game :) xenya: note that 4♠ would fail if played by W or if N could geta lead early -- then ♣ lead beats the contract xenya: hello Roland xenya: and Martin mcarroll: Hi Roland roswolf: this could be trappy for n/s nafiz1: hg Akgun akgun: hi all eccone: selam reha vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 akgun: mrb Eymen eccone: pas pasa batˆ‰ 5 acar eccone: heralde vugraphzkg: takˆ‰m kadrolarˆ‰ ve konvansyon kartlarˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz MolvaM: genellikle ilk 3 bordda ˆ‰sˆ‰nˆ‰rlar bu tˆ…r ˆ§iftler vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 eccone: capycino bbo nicki galiba vugraphzkg: takˆ‰m kadrolarˆ‰ ve konvansyon kartlarˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz riyilikci: selamlar, Tˆ…rkiye Dˆ¶rtlˆ… 1/32 maˆ§ larˆ‰ oynanmakta vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 vugraphzkg: takˆ‰m kadrolarˆ‰ ve konvansyon kartlarˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz sengulerz: ilk elde nasˆ‰l oynanacaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) tutturamadˆ‰m:) eccone: pek bi sessiz buralar vahaboglu: 5♣ de oluyor, sorun yok april7: this lead gives a discard ogf a ♣ loser so 4 will make even if Q of is not found april7: NS might reach 3NT after 1♣ opening by W riyilikci: kapalˆ‰ odada kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k bir teknik sorun yaˆ andˆ‰ ve ilk bordu tam seyredemedik eerbil: herhalde dam karo oynanmˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰r Ufuk tarafˆ‰ndan frankaus: 3♣ by W or is it tooo god at these colours..p marlowepi: with stiff S it is important to preempt barbyh: not a bad idea snorris: 1 ♠? snorris: well.. werge: Yes - and bad 11´·s... sybarra: http://www.jcbl.or.jp/game/nec/necfest.html ralfwil: it´·s very difficult to find a 6-3 fit in a minor, like this yo_yo: was he going to double opps? mdgraham: perhaps it was so he could set up a force..... santyclz: Was it a strong nt? idblu: was it wk or str NT? MolvaM: ˆ ampiyona ile ilgili detaylara http:// www.tbricfed.org.tr/ kanalˆ‰ ile ulaˆ abilirsiniz arigun: http://tbricfed.org.tr/index.php?option= com_content&view=article&id=125:ki-doertluetakimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:2008-2009-sezonu &Itemid=99 eccone: sistem mi oynuyolar gˆ…ney? akgun: evet UTR denilen degisik bir sistemin modifiye edilmis halini oynuyorlar yakop: slm herkese tokay1975: selam riyilikci: hg ˆ smail exerdar: yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran derbisinde daha gol sesi ˆ§ˆ‰kmadˆ‰ ondandˆ‰r:) fahir: Hakan’dan gˆ…zel bir baˆ langˆ‰ˆ§ vugraphzkg: 2li doˆ ru kart tez: ozgur bakan/mert bilgen cifti turnuva boyunca iyi gittiler bence vugraphzkg: evet biraz dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ndˆ… yusufb: hoˆ buldukkk herkese iyii akˆ amlar wilkinsona: well +2?..1 !..11-15p, 1+!D snorris: dont think so sybarra: http://www.jcbl.or.jp/game/nec/necfest.html vulkan: 4♠ DB tez: 2 =multi..zayif majorlerden biri.acmaz el oynuyor nafiz ve salvo © © ¨ ¨ marlowepi: we could call it a "small schlemiel" ..2♣ werge: This should be an easy bid for N werge: 4 ♠ othered1: Do we know NS’s NT range? sharkey: but then 2 wudnt be forcing after Dbl? yo_yo: they will be happy to win 3 imps though mpny: the XX must have showed a good hand. if ¨ 3H was not forcing, I do not know how one would force josj: 4♠ will be made but it might be missed here or there eccone: hmm eccone: ♣ ? eccone: nat veya diye biˆ iy mi? ovncylmz: Kuzey Guneyin sistemi yalniz birakilirsa daha cok problem cikacagina inaniyorum ben:) nafiz: hoˆ geldin ogoksel kabexnuf: KG zayˆ‰f nt oynuyor ogoksel: herkese merhabalarr ovncylmz: 1♣ uzerine de transfer oynuyorlar, selam ozgur kabexnuf: merhaba ozgur abi yakop: tokay izmire gidemedin ama uzulme biˆ ey yokmuˆ ben baktˆ‰m :) tokay1975: :))) yakop: hb riyilikci: 2 = 5 +4♣ veya 6+ 4 maj yok 1115 MolvaM: ok bilgi geldi son devre 20:30 da tokay1975: iyi aksamlar ralfwil: I prefer D on S before 1♠ on that poor suit and I have a 3-card ..2 !..5+!H snorris: 1 overbid snorris: ?? ralfwil: only 1♠ on a 7-card suit? snorris: so how many? 3 ? wilkinsona: its forcing mcarroll: Ron Klinger has long been an advocate of 4 card overcalls snorris: I would idblu: that was quick and dirty werge: For me too yakop: bircdanla huseyin cok agresif oynuyolar ( normalde) bakalˆ‰m ˆ imdi ne yapacaklar yakop: bu el bayaa konuˆ ulur tokay1975: diger ekipde tam tersi gayet muhafazakar MolvaM: bu esnda baˆ ka masalarˆ‰ da seyretmek isterseniz http://www.bridgebase.com/client/ vugraph.php mariner1: ny Japanese advisor was in wrong room, he was in Open, so our EW are not..2♠ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ © - 14 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) mariner1: women........... mariner1: my snorris: not in my book snorris: I bid ♠ werge: Nosacrifice aganist 4 Q s - looks lihe 1400 werge: 4 ♠ ralfwil: And What´·s on? Ov course 4♠ on N! any objection? fabsayc: not a great 6NT, but will make wilkinsona: lots of tricks NS as the cards lie cindy: 4♠ should be ok snorris: 6 nt is the contract to be in snorris: here wilkinsona: Ron’s to blame for this craze is he? snorris: 1 ♠ might show 5 mpny : no, 2D would almost certainly not be forcing ralfwil: an easy 3nt santyclz : This hand should tell us if e-w are playing precision, w will probably rebid 3♣ if so. roswolf: however the favorable heart lie is their salvation arigun : katilan tum takimlarin, turnuva ile bilgilerin, ciftlerin konvansiyon kartlari vs bilgilere TBF sayfas b_eymen: ewet sorunsuz eccone: ˆ¶leymis yakop: bircana gol ˆ ansˆ‰ geldi 7 bile diyebilirler riyilikci: Avcˆ‰oˆ lu-ˆ ztˆ…rk bir Polish Club sistemi oynuyorlar eccone: 4 tez: 4♣=rengini transfer et panja: is this voluntary 3 likely to be interpreted as strong?..3 ralfwil: Good morning Kath, Mike, Carl andMichael santyclz: Precision 2♣s. 6+♣s or 5+ and a 4 card major. ogoksel: yazˆ‰mlar sˆ‰rasˆ‰nda sanˆ‰rˆ‰m blackeagle alackeagle olarak yazˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ ovncylmz : evet ilk 4boardda 0.08 imp/board oynamislar:) kotu bi baslangic degil uzun suredir eline kagit almamis bir cift icin:P ovncylmz: ama il elemelerinde kim oynadi:) MolvaM: batˆ‰ olsanˆ‰z ne derdiniz ˆ imdi? arigun : 3 empassdan bir tanesi geciyor 5 ♣ olacak denirse yakop: welcome TEZ yusufb: 47 imp kapanmasˆ‰ zor gibi ama cˆ‰ kmayan candan ˆ…mit kesilmez Walddk2: http://www.svenskbridge.se/e107_ plugins/competition/competition.php?id.39094 © © - 15 - © Results A-Final..p sybarra: can E squeak this one by? sharkey: Looks like 4♠ may make, but declarer has to make the right choices fabsayc: hi ed othered1: Looks like forcing Stayman, or maybe not othered1: Hi, Martin! snorris: 5+ that is cindy: is this good enough for resp dbl ? idblu: not I vul irwinbo: i wouldn’t double with brenner;s hand wou;d you? marlowepi: not me at these colors cindy: no marlowepi: but i wouldn;t hesitate either cindy: just checkin :) marlowepi: we just chicken too idblu: N shld be bid out cindy: checkin chickens idblu: 3 s/b 123 stop wilkinsona: East may move here though sharkey: But cannot see returnhaving any purpose ahollan1: a Precision player MIGHT rebid 3♣ --but the quality of the ♣ suit may deter idblu: no excuse for E to bid on here arigun: sayfasindan ulasabilirsiniz MolvaM: oooooo MolvaM: 3♣ gayet makul kontrat MolvaM: ama kuzey 1 daha konuˆ mak isteyebilir riyilikci: 1 ♣ 12-14 dengeli, veya 15-17 trefller veya 17+ herhangi el yakop: 2 h ne acaba yakop: klasik 6 h baraj eli riyilikci: CC zayˆ‰f kˆ¶rler diyor yakop: 6 deyip haneye yazacaksˆ‰n MolvaM: seyircilerimize uyarˆ‰: bu tˆ…r deneyleri evinizde yapmayˆ‰n tehlikeli olabilir arigun: sigan + key card cevabi verirken genel metod, 5nt cift sayida+sigan, 6x; tek sayida+sigan (soylenen renk sigan) oynaniyor, sayet buyuk renk sigan ise 6 seviyesinde koz ile ... arigun: soyleniyor koksoy: knock -out maclarda sans faktˆ¶rˆ… normalden daha fazla nezihk: salvo piki ˆ…ˆ§lˆ… ile alˆ‰yor sanˆ‰rˆ ‰m Walddk2: http://www.svenskbridge.se/e107_ plugins/competition/competition.php?id.39095 Results B-Final..4 Walddk2: Last 5 boards of the tournament ¨ ¨ © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) © snorris: 3 :) wilkinsona: 1 heart overcall misses the sac in diamonds thommos: and successful bg: Hi Fred/Ian thommos: hi Bruce vugraphzkg: cok dusundu ama konusmadˆ‰ ovncylmz: kenancim hakem heyetinden istedigimiz, son tur oncesi capraz tablo pdf i vardi:) yakop: baraj otomatik olur tez: iyi gunler:)kolay gelsin MolvaM: gˆ…naydˆ‰n tezcan marlowepi: S may be worried about m,issing a slam, will soon find out he is too high in game..p mariner1: so our W is male and out E is a woman mariner1: our marlowepi: wow snorris: from bad to worse cindy: 3N not so good ralfwil: and only 3♠? snorris: 4 si good but south will probably not raise idblu: Hi Bruce, Ian :) sybarra: hi Bruce yo_yo: hi there sharkey: Dbl then 3 which shud be forcing caitlin: too high will be down MolvaM : vugraf operatˆ¶rlerimizden isimleri girmesini tekrar rica edelim bu arada eccone: kuzeyin konusmamasˆ‰ ilginˆ§ oldu MolvaM: bu arada kuzey rakibin zon kaˆ§ˆ‰rmˆ ‰ˆ olabileceˆ ini de dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nmˆ…ˆ tˆ…r muhtemelen ovncylmz: daha ancak 5.tur sonuclarini gorebiliyoruz:) yakop: piki dogru taraftan soylediler riyilikci : KG 1 yu 4+ 1Majrˆ… 5+ 11-17 oynuyorlar yakop: bu tip maclarda bu zon durumunda rakip batsa bile ˆ ilem riske edilmez baraj yapˆ‰lˆ‰r april7: an unbeatable contract:1♣ 1 - 1NT- p 2NT -3NT tokay1975: 3cl dermi MolvaM: ozaman kontrlar baˆ layabilir tokay1975: bence x derken 2sp gelince ne yapicaginida dusunmeliydi MolvaM: ufuk ortakta olasˆ‰ bir ceza kontru varmˆ‰ diye umuyordu ama ˆ imdi canˆ‰ sˆ‰kˆ ‰ldˆ‰ eerbil: spesifik bilgi veren bi aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ tan sonra kontr riskini alacak bi el olarak gˆ¶rmˆ…yorum Ufuk’un elini tokay1975: helede h 2bos sp tekken ¨ ¨ ¨ MolvaM: defansta 4lˆ… karo olmamasˆ‰ kontrdan kurtarabilir belki nezihk: slm tez marlowepi: is this round board a match?..p panja: on a non lead...11 tricks i guess bg: 4 spades tough with heart lead 3nt also tough with heart lead cindy: lead unlikely vs 4♠ though bg: declarer has to duck first round rule of 7 with six cards subtract from 7 and get one therefore duck first round cindy: yes should find it sybarra: is it rule of 7 or 11? bg : can get 3 spades 3 dia two clubs and one heart wilkinsona: ..judges well to pass marlowepi : not much for E to do with such limited stoppage in ajors and no diamond honor ralfwil: Curious from E Partner has opened and he has 11 HP sharkey: gd morning Ralf werge: Morning sharkey: and Hans ahollan1: too right -- the power of limited opening 1 , saves East from a painful guess fabsayc: arrgh santyclz: Negative x didn’t work out well. idblu: 3N...what did E promise? kabexnuf: nt ye dogu bati attitude cikiyorlar kabexnuf: 1nt ye ne diyorsunuz riyilikci : bu maˆ§ 16 bordluk 3 devre olarak oynanacak, gelecek devre hangi maˆ§ˆ‰n verilece ˆ ine sonuˆ§lara gˆ¶re karar verilecek riyilikci: KG ekibin bir renk aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ larˆ‰ 14+p ve forsing, 1♣ dengeli 15+ veya 5+kart, diˆ erleri 5+kart naturel ve dengesiz april7: an odd 1NT overcall MolvaM: doˆ udan 6 ˆ§ok hoˆ 1 kontrat gibi duruyor Walddk2: or 4 remaining now..p cindy: match a board sybarra: no dbl no trbl snorris: 990 werge: Is 1 ♠ your chice also - NEVER bid such a suit in defensive situation xenya: so a huge gain for Japan on the very first board idblu: opening bid? yo_yo: now South will have to make a noise but no eccone: yorumlamak zor durumu eccone: :) © © © © - 16 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) akgun: KG 3H a kadar yapabiliyordu dadim: 2nt ogoksel : NS artifisyel oynuyor ise bu maˆ§ artifisyellerin savaˆ ˆ‰ olabilir.ufuk-tayfun ˆ§ iftide uzun zamandˆ‰r birlikte sistem oynuyorlar yakop: 6 pik derlerse 7 barajˆ‰ olur mutlaka fabsayc: 3nt looks very conservative..♣K othered1: fMust b e 13-15 and north knows there ’s no long suit fit. fabsayc: ah, possibly wilkinsona: no nead to sac snorris: 3 sp is too little ralfwil: a 7-card suit after partners opening and also a support? snorris: sounds like just figthing for a partscore werge: The ♣ Q shoyld lead to the right bid = 4 ♠ mpny: yes, 3D rather than 3H would be F, but he got to the right strain santyclz: Overall in the matches I’ve seen the players have been remarkably conservative for juniors. othered1: I don’t love opening the north hand with 1N, but it’s worked out fine. mcarroll: This should be flat - same contract next door roswolf: well the game is missed josj: it might have been time for a polite raise by S with 2 aces roswolf: i fancy in the other room game will be bid chessmaste: Maybe North should have doubled to show a good overcall, although in my book he had already promised a decent hand with 1♠ yo_yo: but has North show 15 with a 6 card suit, i dont think so josj: wanna bet Geoffrey?:) riyilikci: gˆ¶rdˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…z imp ilk devre skoru fahir: herkese iyi seyirler MolvaM: ˆ imdi fren zamanˆ‰ tez: kotu 5li unu gostermek istemedi werge: RD...!!!..♣6 cindy: i agree sharkey: Normal 3 NT here - off a couple athene: it looks natural to begin diamonds with small to the J, which won’t work athene: oh - declarer doesn’t really have time to play on diamonds anyway athene: but there’s no possible way to get three spade tricks idblu: they aren’t playing the game that got them here © ¨ - 17 - arigun: Nezih Kubac, gunaydin hosgeldin ovncylmz: :) eglenceli mac olacak gibi :) sengulerz: hg Fahir exerdar: ˆ zgˆ…r Bakan tref dam valeyi gˆ¶rˆ… nce derin bi oh ˆ§ekmiˆ tir bu elde heralde sybarra: even now ..♣5 snorris: right sharkey: E probably doesnt want to open 2♠ with 2 aces thus 1♠ second choice? snorris: I HAVE to bid something in south snorris: it might be my last chanse to bid ralfwil: Yes but, not 1♠ for me ralfwil: I double on such a hand thommos: pass from west would be a min hand mdgraham: Any regular pair would have their own agreements on what sets up a force and what doesn’t - not all pairs play the same yo_yo: this looks a hairy contract mdgraham: the important thing is to be on the same wavelength - and South was on long wave there while North was on medium sharkey: yes - lol - perhaps 3 followed by 3♠ and 4 ralfwil: !a and a ♣ continuation will break the contract ralfwil: ♠A sharkey: Problems here with trumps 4-2 I think sharkey: E will refuse 1st ♠ perhaps yo_yo: is it Paul Hackett here or one of his twins? sharkey: 8 tricks if Declarer starts with low ♠ ahollan1: NS using standard honor leads; 3rd even/lo odd spot leads -- upside-down count & attitude signals idblu : the China Women have been VERY impressive....in all facets of the game. yo_yo: the ladies bid everything eccone: 1♠ yapar heralde akgun: +1 gibi duruyor vugraphzkg: batˆ‰ pasˆ‰ gˆ¶rˆ…nce kˆ¶tˆ… hissetmiˆ ti kendini ama yeri gˆ¶rˆ…nce biraz dˆ …zeldi arigun: ♣ e kaptirirsa batacak riyilikci: 2 aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ larˆ‰ (9)10-13 5+kart arigun : matnikli oyun A yere gidip ele ♣ oynamak arigun: rakiplerden herhangi birinde 3 tane varsa 2 e 2 gidiyor MolvaM: bu ˆ artlarda en makul kontrat arigun : burada ahmet’in 6 demesi gerekir kitabi olarak tez: ♠ as ile baslarsa ve atak olmazsa 6♠ te yapilabilir ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ © © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) MolvaM: 4 ¨ ile 4♠ demeden ˆ¶nce bir hafif ˆ lem denemesi yapmak istedi bˆ…lent aslan tez: ok ralfwil: 9 tricks with a ♠ finess..♣A roswolf: 9 tricks sure vugraphzhn: Fallenius: small barp, Fredin: So thats what you think? He probably likes the dummy...... ralfwil: the ♠10 was essential sybarra: not sure you try the ♠ too early, could go down ralfwil: but N can have a 6-card suit in , so... sybarra: thx all lots of suggestions, sybarra: and all realistic, at the table I would be worried (I think) about taking spade finesse too early snorris: probably snorris: and if they play strong ♣ system its almost ok sharkey: NV not to unreasonable I think wilkinsona: ..turns out ok, as this can make.. snorris: of course you will win 7 but... ahollan1: North’s opening strenthens our guess that they’re playing precision [but even that hand seems too weak for 1N] xenya: interesting contract roswolf: perhaps unless you know! josj: :) sure bets are the best roswolf: :) kabexnuf: 3h cok olmadi mi eccone: ♣ pasˆ‰ gecince sorunsuz oldugu icin ♣ pas atmˆ¶ak daha iyi gibii riyilikci: 5 pike bile 7 iyi baraj eerbil: okay koz atak ederken eminim bˆ¶yle bi dummy gˆ¶receˆ ini tahmin etmiyordu yusufb: BBO yayˆ‰nlarˆ‰ skorlarˆ‰n anˆ‰ nda ve detaylˆ‰ girilmesi gayet gˆ…zeldi emegi gecenlere tesekkˆ…r ediyorum tokay1975: hem 2sp demesi hem sonra dbl cok iyi bence (opsiyoneldi dayanamiyosan 3sp de gibi) tokay1975: elin hakkˆ‰nˆ‰ verdi marlowepi: with 3 cards in both unbid suits and opps vul, 2D was a dubious choice.. 4 athene: even if you pick ♠Ax that only gives you two spades mcarroll: very delicate xenya : might require a very careful play by declarer mcarroll: can make but not easy xenya: declarer’s prime objective is to establish clubs keeping N off lead tokay1975: bu ataga hemen kozlari oynarsa 6 © © ¨ yapabiliyor arigun: ♣ ataktan sonra ler uygun 6♣+4 ve 2 as ile 12 love alabilir riyilikci: oldukˆ§a iyi bir 6 cl var ovncylmz: rakibi engellemeyi dusunmus olabilir ovncylmz: :) riyilikci: evet ama kˆ¶r tek exerdar: 3nt sorunsuz bu elde tez: 1nt 4♣ e transfer..ya 4 oynamak isteyen yada den keykart soracak el oynuyor goksu/ orhan cifti mariner1: EW did have a save here if they found it.. 2 werge: The problem is, that if you bid all henads, where hou "must" bid . you loose snorris: no win mcarroll: Hard to disagree with success, and I hate the final double othered1 : 2 ♠ likely denying (if they’re playing standardish 2-way Stayman) snorris: getting there.. snorris: maybe mpny: paul ralfwil: and perhaps more after ♣ a heart continuation yo_yo: for those who dont know Paul (the father) has twin sons, both champions yo_yo: Paul likes to bid sharkey: yes akgun: 1c alert ne olabilirdi acaba 2+c mi? eccone: 6 imp vugraphzkg: tek bile olabilirmiˆ eccone: hmm yakop: agresif dedigimiz cift bile bu eli ˆ ilem diyemedi gecen mac ne demek istedigim anlaˆ ˆ ‰lmˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰r heralde tokay1975 : ismail senin dedigine gore 6sp deseler 500 yazcaklardi simdi 650 daha iyi ozgull: bence okan as cevabˆ‰yla ˆ§ok ilgilenmedi:) ralfwil: The play in ♠ ic critical. The right play is now to play ♠A.. Q ralfwil: Covers all singleton honours mdgraham: well, it shows what we know - 230 gained 3 imps against the 3 contract at the other table ralfwil: I think I have met them in Holland some years ago ralfwil: 10 with a ♠ lead and 9 tricks with a ♣ lead MolvaM: batˆ‰daki oyuncunun 3. den 10 puan ile aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ masayˆ‰ biraz karˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰rdˆ‰ gibi MolvaM: 3pik sˆ‰nˆ‰rda bir kontrat ve batacak © © © © © ¨ © ¨ ¨ - 18 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) gibi duruyor eccone: kup eccone: kup nezihk: gˆ…naydˆ‰n herkese MolvaM : bu maˆ§taki yorumcularˆ‰mˆ‰z tezcan ˆ en, yusuf sohtorik ve mustafa cem tokay, roswolf: :)declarer wasnt!.. T mariner1: Closed is also in 4♠ here marlowepi : i prefer to save when their game makes fabsayc: they do play strong club, not sure of details, they were on vugraph before caitlin: I prefer the 1NT than East opening 1 at other table which did work but surprising no spade balance sybarra2: ty operator riyilikci: Murat Kazˆ‰l Yataˆ an, Ertuˆ rul Aygen Yalˆ‰kavak’tan, ˆ…lkemiz iˆ§in ˆ§ok alˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ lmˆ‰ˆ ’her ˆ ey natˆ…rel’ diye sˆ¶ylenen bir sistem oynuyorlar ovncylmz: bu turnuvada 2♣ checkback limitleri oldukca dusuk, bir de 3 yi 3lu kor max oynayanlar var sonucta tez: iyi aksamlar iyi seyirler..kolay gelsin cindy: doesntlook like 3N or 5D so no problem .. K athene: perhaps lead a spade from dummy and hope south jumps in with ♠Axx athene: to return a club shevek: same contract, same lead in OR sharkey: N has to make 2 discards if tricks taken idblu: ge Shirley :) mariner1: oops Open is in 4♠ :).. 8 ralfwil: of course, but still he has opened xenya: yes ovncylmz: herkese iyi aksamlar ovncylmz: gunaydin:) sengulerz: K-G 3 yapabiliyor ama zon durumu ters olunca konuˆ mak zor vulkan: ˆ imdi 1 batar.. 6 vulkan: ko devamˆ‰na eccone: wc vulkan: DB bu el 2 ♠ yapabiliyordu ama 1.bordda aˆ ˆ‰zlarˆ‰ yandˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in uyandˆ‰ramadˆ ‰lar :) kabexnuf: +1 herhalde MolvaM: hayatˆ‰ film ˆ eridi gibi geˆ§mek bˆ¶ yle birˆ ey sanˆ‰rˆ‰m MolvaM: 4pik oynarken pik as ile baˆ lamak daha kolay MolvaM : bu devre yorumcularˆ‰mˆ‰z tez, © ¨ ¨ © © ¨ © ¨ © - 19 - ¨ tokay ve hˆ…seyin avcˆ‰oˆ lu tez: ve MOLVAM:) MolvaM: lˆ…tfen diˆ er yorumcularˆ‰mˆ‰zˆ‰n sadece seyretmekle yetinmelerini rica edelim ˆ§ˆ …nkˆ… yorumcu fazlalˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ da dikkat daˆ ˆ‰ tˆ‰yor sharkey: Yes - and then do the right choice in .. 3 ralfwil: no thougtts about a grand? werge: Is this play right: to the Ace - and let the 9 run...? sharkey: much easier to bid seeing all hands :) mpny: they will pick up another 3 IMPs here yo_yo: do we all bid 1NT with that east hand over the overcall? yo_yo: i usually pass with a weak NT ovncylmz: 16.50de tamamlanan birinci maclarin sonuclari elimizde mi? eccone: elma ovncylmz: 3asli max bir el bence de tez: 2nt acisindan sonra transferi almak 3 lu koz gosteriyor diye dusundu salvo wilkinsona: 13 now I suppose.. A marlowepi: sometimes a bidder is just maximum..........except for me of course irwinbo: is three diamonds forward going or just blocking? caitlin: you here Ed? akgun: meraba MolvaM: netekim wilkinsona: declarer miss timed things in OR it seems.... 2 ralfwil: for me 5nt in this sequence is a grand trial idblu: blocking athene: whatever she chooses to discard will work out ok josj: iI think so roswolf : no but in a strong club system they sometimes have to yo_yo: ah that’s the difference maybe josj: opps can’t beat it as they have no running suits threatening aruf: gˆ…naydˆ‰n Nezih abi hoˆ geldin nezihk: tx kabexnuf: gunaydin nezih abi vulkan: sorry 2♠ -1 nezihk: bence sabah mahmurluˆ u vardˆ‰ ilk elde , bu onlarˆ‰ uyandˆ‰rmaya yetecektir aruf: ˆ zmir de hava bugˆ…n yaˆ murlu ˆ u anda vulkan: valla Aydoˆ dular cin gibi :) nezihk: bellioluyor, ancak ben minˆ¶rler veya davetimsi el aˆ§ˆ‰klmasˆ‰na katˆ‰lmˆ‰ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) yorum, ya birisi ya diˆ eri olur ovncylmz : dun fikret aydogdu oynamamis elimizdeki bilgilere gore, nevzat aydogdu-hayati ergur le oynamisti kabexnuf: daha enteresan alertler gorecegimize inanˆ‰yorum yakop: herzaman o hesap tutmuyo :) tokay1975: 6sp 7h dense yakop: bu el iˆ§in iyi ama bircanˆ‰n 6 demesi lazˆ‰m cunku rakip baraj yapar ve kac olacagˆ‰ belli degil riyilikci: 1/16ˆ‰n son devresi oynanˆ‰yor wilkinsona: so terrific start for Hayate, making 7NT NS board 1, 6NT EW board 2.. 4 irwinbo: that’s what i think idblu: any other bid would be fed going cindy: i think it depends on your agreement marlowepi: makes best sense to play it that way, as other bids are available to show strength ahollan1: indeed - maybe a mild upset to get to finals, but were Seeded in the Top 4 MolvaM: artˆ‰k 6 yapabilir rahatca tokay1975: ben 3sp yer,ne 3nt derdim 3sp riskli 2cl acana gore dusununce 2sple kozlari ifade etti yusufb: tabii beyazda olmasˆ‰ cesaretlendirdi kˆ ‰rmˆ‰zˆ‰da pas deyip oynatˆ‰rdˆ‰ bence sybarra: that is why he is playing and I am in the rafters .. 3 yo_yo: I cant think of a game here even seeing all hands ralfwil: and now 11 xenya: another good idea -- set up a spade trick while discarding losers from hand b_eymen: -1 eccone: Q♠ riyilikci: Hoˆ geldiniz Tezcan ˆ en ve Mustafa Tokay MolvaM: 3nt nin aˆ§ˆ‰klamasˆ‰nˆ‰ rica etsek idblu: forward.. 5 sybarra: hello Ed othered1: Hi, Caitlin! othered1: Hi, Shirley! caitlin: :) caitlin: yes 6 IMP to Juice othered1: juice will get 5 back here, sooner or later. caitlin: 5 nezihk: slem daveti nezihk: olsa gerek vahaboglu: as alˆ‰nmazsa +1 yakop: fit varken alˆ‰yolar transferi frankaus: this could make if Fushida ellect to © © © ¨ © finess ♠.. 8 sharkey: no - do you agree with Paul’s Dbl? yo_yo: i sympathize with it mpny: no, I do not, but it is not an easy hand idblu: from the get-go? ahollan1: in fact -- the top 4 seeds ALL advanced to the semi-finals mcarroll: Yes a real opportunityt here as they stopped in 3 in OR MolvaM: ˆ u an bu ˆ ampiyona izmirde MolvaM: kˆ…ltˆ…rpark fuarˆ‰ndaki salonlarda oynanˆ‰yor eccone: :) yakop: konyada 80 lerde bi baraj yapˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ adˆ‰ may barajˆ‰ marlowepi: though not as ducious as the double.. K snorris: misguessed s maybe sharkey: cud be wilkinsona: played to ruff clubs in hand and lost control it seems.. snorris: this was not a pleasing sight this king of ♠ for north ralfwil: But no use of it wilkinsona: yes only 3 spades othe table too...cant see why north doesnt try for the max here idblu: I want the handicapper betting for me :) ralfwil: I have played many worse games.. Q snorris: 4 ♠ bid might win or might push oponents to a sac fabsayc: NEX josj: it also has the virtue of making life more difficult for the opps, as was proved here yakop: dolayˆ‰sˆ‰yla 3nt ˆ ilem daveti oldu tokay1975: 3sp demeye yakˆ‰n ama balans kontr demis ortaga garanti diil ortagˆ‰nˆ‰n fikrini sordu tez: 1 iceri girecek..u.koc yapmayi umit ediyor hala tez: icerde onor ikili varsa olacak sharkey: Double finesse in odds on.. A yo_yo: no they didnt bid it, good job we didnt bet :) MolvaM: bazˆ‰ seyircilerimizden gelen istek ˆ… zerine bunu belirtmekte yarar gˆ¶rdˆ…m :) anlayˆ ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰z iˆ§in teˆ ekkˆ…rler marlowepi: 3 rounds of clubs is the defense.. 5 mariner1: yes the bad break hurts ralfwil: perfect defence so far ahollan1: key info fred: if i’m betting -- ignore handicapper -- just bet opposite of what i do MolvaM: ve bizler naklen izliyoruz eccone: may da arapˆ§ada su demek © © ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ - 20 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) snorris: well done..♣7 bg: another 13 for Japan werge: Third in hand santyclz: Wd Martin, avoiding Joey’s copyright. xenya: now he can try for a cross ruff -- which works here eccone: karoyu direkt cakmasˆ‰ daha iyiydi riyilikci: ˆ eyrek final 1. devre 17:10 yakop: herˆ ey bitmiˆ baraja su toplanmˆ‰ˆ gˆ¶l kocaman tez: oyle oldugu zaman zorlunun 3 nt si slem icin kontrola gecmek oluyor saniyorum MolvaM: ˆ imdi karo empasˆ‰ ile yere geˆ§ip 7 yapmayˆ‰ da dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ndˆ… ama fazla kurcalamayay ˆ‰m dedi roswolf: :).. J b_eymen: pik bˆ‰rakˆ‰lˆ‰nca herˆ ey cakˆ‰ lsa MolvaM: bu bordda 3♣ te durmak bence kazanˆ§l ˆ‰ olabilir. doˆ unun eli ile ˆ¶zellikle ortak cevap verdikten sonra frenlerin tutmama ihtimali var MolvaM: bora 3 dese idi acaba cem altan ne derdi? eccone: Merhabalar MolvaM: selam eymen kabexnuf: ♣ riyilikci : diˆ er maˆ§ skor kaˆ ˆ‰dˆ‰ http:// clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams_match.php? match=10100 xenya: she sorry..♠5 ovncylmz: pas gecer herhalde:) tokay1975: selamlar snorris: might be difficult to find out about the queen..♠7 ahollan1: thoughtful A cash before going back to -- encourages partner to play 13th , but just doesn’t matter here sengulerz: gene de pastan gelirken cesaretini toplayˆ‰p 2♣e dbl diyen oyuncular ˆ§ˆ‰kar snorris: 10 imps..♠K sharkey: So the Chinese Women strike back fabsayc: T idblu: people who have used me for that theory are very rich today as well :) josj: maybe :) MolvaM: eˆ er ˆ u an izmir fuarˆ‰na yakˆ‰n bir izleyici varsa turnuva alanˆ‰na gidip tez: bu eli kontrlu yapsalar masada buz gibi bir hava esmeye baslayacakti Walddk2: or maybe because you are not a Swedish citizen? :)..♠A vugraphzhn: Fredin: Leads from 6, Efraimsson: ¨ © ¨ ¨ - 21 - © ¨ normally 3rd, but 5th possible ralfwil: but it was a lucky 7nt on OR santyclz: +2, NEXT! idblu: JOEY!!!! aruf: bir fazlaya claim etmesi gerek ovncylmz: konusur mu ki bi kez daha? santyclz: Oops idblu: got the next part :) MolvaM: en baˆ ta demiˆ tim ama ˆ¶zel istek ˆ… zerine tekrarlˆ‰yorum: tˆ…rkiye ˆ ampiyonasˆ‰ final maˆ§ˆ‰ ilk devresine hoˆ geldiniz :) Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 1N c 1N 3 3 this/total IMPs Quantum 1 107 Primabridge 57 N 2 120 N 1 90 7 ♠A Q 7 6 9 A Q10 4 8 8 K 9 ♣J653 ♠ K10 9 4 N ♠8 2 K95 J732 W E J87 AQ5 3 S ♣ Q10 4 ♣9 7 2 ♠J53 6-5 4 86 5 10 9 6 4 2 5 ♣AK 8 4 140 W: Andonov W p p N: Nanev Open S: Mihov N E 1N §2,8,Q,3 ©2,8,K,A ª3,4,Q,2 ª5,T,A,8 ª6,¨5,ªJ,K #1 E:: #3 E:: #5 S:: #7 S:: #9 N:: lestergold : a singleton honour such as thek makes it just about aceptable..♣6..♣9..♣A..♣T.. ♠5..♠T..♠A ndemirev : spade risked the contract for an overtrick ..♠8..♣J.. 3.. 2.. 8..♠6.. 5..♠J.. ♠K.. 5.. Q.. 3.. 4 vugraphb1: not because Andonov played 9 and 10 on the first and second round of the suit roswolf: not in precision mike here 1nt may well be bid anyway - and also if such an off shape nt is bid often enough then when 1 is opened then you know it is natural or a "standard" nt! vugraphb1: wrong broadcasted by me ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ E: Popov S p p p © § § §¨ © ¨ #2 W:: 9,T,J,6 #4 N:: 5,7,K,4 #6 N:: 6,9,A,T #8 N:: J, 3,2,8 #10 W:: 5,Q,3, 4 lestergold: well maybe some possibility of a swing here- many pairs would go overboard with the N/S cards..p..p..1N..p..p..p roswolf: offcentre NT was opened by north in the other room roswolf: and here what is wrong with a precision 1 opening..♣2 lestergold: but they havent theyve reproduced the auction lestergold: these hands have been rather dull so far- not giving many opportunities to either side.. ♣8..♣Q..♣3.. 9.. T.. J.. 6 roswolf: fair comment and suits quantum very well .. 2.. 8.. K lestergold: off centre no trump not unreaonable as another opener gives rise to rebid problems 4441 always difficult to handle.. A..♣5..♣7..♣ K..♣4..♠3..♠4..♠Q..♠2 ¨ © © © © © © © © - 22 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 1N c 1N 3 3 this/total IMPs Primabridge 57 Quantum 1 107 N 2 120 N 1 90 7 ♠A Q 7 6 9 A Q10 4 8 8 K 9 ♣J653 ♠ K10 9 4 N ♠8 2 K95 J732 W E J87 AQ5 3 S ♣ Q10 4 ♣9 7 2 ♠J53 6-5 4 86 5 10 9 6 4 2 5 ♣AK 8 4 140 W: V.Aronov W p p N: S.Skorchev Closed E: J.Stefanov S: B.Popov N E S p 1N p p ©2,6,K,A ª5,4,Q,2 §8,Q,6,9 §J,¨3,2,©5 ¨5,9,J,ª6 § § © ¨ ¨ #1 E:: #3 S:: #5 S:: #7 N:: #9 E:: #2 N:: 5,2,K,4 #4 N:: 3,7,A,T #6 W:: 9,Q,3,8 #8 N:: K,A,4,7 #10 W:: 8,,, marlowepi: simplest to open 1NT, though not ideal snorris: now we will know if n-s play strong ♣ werge: Listen - he has an Ace, a trump trick ( aganins GOOD bidders - and partner has promised an opening bid wilkinsona: 6NT other room.. snorris: 3-3 ralfwil: I ask fro the Q by bidding 6♣. The suit below the trumph snorris: me too wilkinsona: well 2 spades is available for forward move cindy: i wouldnt assume it was blocking with a pickup partner marlowepi: 2NT not weak either, nor 3C idblu: new suit would show extras and interest vugraphzhq: sry 3D 3make © - 23 - ¨ thommos: at this speed we will be finshed in 30 minutes sybarra: sort of like doing vugraph from Brazil sharkey: agree mdgraham: but then the alternative is 3N, and nay 5-3 spade fit goes out the window ahollan1: if EW playing 10-13 NT at this vul, then East knew partner did NOT hold ♠Q caitlin: Joey is playing:) shevek: I hear that the real score is 47-29 sharkey: Slam here athene: some people might pass that south hand shevek: following an appeal sybarra2: hello Fred fabsayc: probably east should have bid 2h, if partner has spades will still find roswolf: this may be competitive chessmaste: A 20/20 deal for Roland MolvaM: ˆ u an eleme turlarˆ‰ olduˆ u iˆ§imn olabildiˆ ince ˆ§ok sayˆ‰da takˆ‰mˆ‰n maˆ§ˆ ‰nˆ‰ vermeye ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ acaklar sanˆ‰rˆ‰m vulkan: 4-3 e ovncylmz : Pazar gununden itibaren elemeli maclari izliyecegiz kabexnuf: belki rakip daha uyanmamiˆ tˆ‰r diye oynuyordur belki sengulerz: 1♣ mi 3♣ mi? riyilikci: Kuˆ adasˆ‰’ndan Mehmet Muˆ lu ve Cengiz Kalˆ§a 2/1 ve multi, kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k apel romen defos oynuyorlar, gene ˆ§oˆ umuz iˆ§in alˆ ‰ˆ ˆ‰ldˆ‰k bir sistem kabexnuf: hala devam ettiklerine gore "hersey naturel sistemini" iyi oynuyorlar. riyilikci: DB ise 2/1 15-17NT, 2 =18-19 dengeli, 2sˆ‰ˆ§ramalˆ‰ araya giriˆ ler orta kuvvette el oynuyorlar yakop: mˆ…hendisler iyi bir yakop: iˆ yapmanˆ‰n keyfiyle baraja bakˆ‰ yolar tokay1975: 4cl sonra 5h demis oyuncuda sp rua aradi kesinlikle dusuk ihtimaldi fahir: selam Tezcan MolvaM : ozaman doˆ rusu buymuˆ demekki tezcan :) onlar daha elenmemiˆ durumdalar hala. ama biz elendik vahaboglu: 4♠, 3NT oluyor riyilikci: ˆ u andaki durumlar iˆ§in riyilikci: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=169:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi-sonuclari&catid=50: 2008-2009-sezonu&Itemid=99 emre kaya: herkese selamlar iyi seyirler ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) riyilikci: yorumcularˆ‰mˆ‰z Tezcan ˆ en ve Mustafa Tokay koksoy: okay ve gˆ¶khan gercekten 2 tane cok sansˆ‰z milli takˆ‰m secmesi macerasˆ‰ yasamalarˆ‰na ragmen partnerliklerini birbirlerine olan sevgi ve saygˆ‰larˆ‰nˆ‰ korudular ... koksoy: gercekten takdir ediyorum tez: baglantim kotu ralfwil: I would have seen Fredins smile if Morath had 6 ..p daman: get your popcorn out this should be fun xenya: this might be interesting ralfwil: only a part score in ♠ here, but let´·s see caitlin: his team went from 20th to 8th caitlin: sorry 6th ahollan1: and knew no chance for trump promotion yo_yo: i dont like 11 counts but 54 in the majors i like nafiz: hoˆ geldin Eymen eccone: selamlar tokay1975: katiliyorum sayˆ‰n molva roswolf: indeed some actin..p roswolf: action mariner1: can EW make a Moysian 4♠ here? marlowepi: if E does not rise on first heart lead from dummy, 3NT makes snorris: no othered1 : 13-15 NT range has some funny results, when it’s 15. cindy: need to find club fit idblu: tell ’em to slow down... we get paid by the hour :) vugraphzhq: NS reversed sybarra: yeah right! caitlin: in 2 in other room shevek: agree with pass here sharkey: but won’t get there athene: you have an open-ended straight flush draw, so it’s a clear opener for me roswolf: 5 looks the contract MolvaM: ama turnuvanˆ‰n ilerleyen safhalarˆ‰ nda iddialˆ‰ takˆ‰mlara ˆ¶ncelik verilecek doˆ al olarak b_eymen: :( eccone: batˆ‰nˆ‰n eliyle cogu oyuncu acar ovncylmz : 1.tur maclarinin cok az bir kismi disinda skorlar su an hazir durumda ovncylmz: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ calendar.php ovncylmz: 2nt alerti ile ilgili hemen sunu soyliyim, eger KG sistemini soyle bir inceleyecek olursak, 1nt den sonra zayif minorler deklareleri oldugundan © © ¨ herhalde bu biraz daha iyi bir el ... ovncylmz: olarak anlasildi ama minorlerinin oldugu kesin riyilikci: 1cl yakop: mansap kapaklarˆ‰nˆ‰ acalˆ‰m mˆ‰ diye bakarken akˆ am oluyo eccone: 6 denmedigi icin belki eccone : yorumlarˆ‰nˆ‰zla aydˆ‰nlatˆ‰n bizleri lˆ…tfen tez: iyi aksamlar:) tez : bence ozgur..bende iyi el var anlaminda atti.cezaya cevrilebilecegini dusunmemisti:) roswolf: 4♠ looks normal and then?..1N..14-16 NT Walddk2: 2M=10-13, 6+suit wilkinsona: In OR west failed to raise hearts with 5 it seems... idblu: :) ahollan1: 15-17 NT at these colors caitlin: could this be a DONT type bid? ahollan1 : 2 ♣ ♣ + Major or DONT ♣ + another ovncylmz: Buna benzer eller ozellikle elemelerin ilk turlarinda problem yaratabilir, oyuncularin daha tam olarak isinmadigini dusunuyorum:) kabexnuf: eymen selam sengulerz: anlaˆ ˆ‰ldˆ‰ bugˆ…n hiˆ§bir ˆ eyi tutturamayacaˆ ˆ‰m yakop: yatˆ‰p kalkˆ‰yolara sabah tekra degerlendiririz diye eccone: ♠ K ♣A tokay1975: 4cl dedi sonra 5h sp rua olma olasiligi otomatik dusuk tokay1975: selamlar ralfwil: my bid too on E..p snorris: :) panja: 1 for Spade suit... cindy: who likes 3 here ? ralfwil: I like this 3 ! snorris: auto... mdgraham: although South may have overcalled 1♠ if he had five and some values ahollan1: if South gets a chance to bid 2 -- we’ ll know more about 2♣ ralfwil: 6♣ with a lead shevek: values in the short suits not good athene: 1♣ strong, double is clubs? idblu: think they’ll play ’s here? MolvaM: kuzeyin 3♣ deklaresi karo tututˆ u ve davet eli gˆ¶steriyor muhtemelen MolvaM: genellikle 5li karo ve 10-12 puan MolvaM: ok 9-11 miˆ © © © © © © © - 24 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) yakop: bi bakˆ‰yolar baraj golunde riyilikci: e ismail, devam yakop: mandalar camur banyosunda:) yakop: bu gercek ama:) tez: 2♣ 12/15 en az 5li ♣ dengesiz el koc/ozbey ciftinde tez: 2 yapici ama forsing degil riyilikci: 2♣=11-15 5♣+4 veya 6♣, 4 maj yok vahaboglu: ˆ zbey-Koˆ§ ˆ§ifti modifiye precision oynuyorlar koksoy: ahmetle okan ise sanki birbirleri icin yaratˆ‰lmˆ‰s gibiler cok eskiye dayanan esprili bir partnerlikleri var yakop: pik fiti bulunursa 4 pik oynanˆ‰r tez: 4 iyi kontrat ama batacak snorris: hmm.....p snorris: undo panja: 4♠ is a better spot than 3Nt, it seems, but it might not be easy to get there.. ralfwil: But you will only earn 100 if it is -1 and loose 170 if made? ralfwil: and 4 is laydown fabsayc: can we put superchargers on EW please ahollan1: 2 means "System On" over DBL or 2♣ overcall santyclz: If DONT it improves e’s hand. caitlin : for any conventions one may not be familiar with the new home for bridge guys is http://www.bridgeguys.com/ caitlin: mark it off-- a reasonably good site roswolf: ah i am blind 3 losers in 5 josj: unluckily yes vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 vugraphzkg: takˆ‰m kadrolarˆ‰ ve konvansyon kartlarˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz deniz_t: iyi defans yapˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ tbrler MolvaM: daha kimseye ˆ ikan veya 8-4 daˆ ˆ‰lˆ ‰m gelmedi. gece makinayˆ‰ yaˆ lamˆ‰ˆ lar galiba nezihk: bulmak zor gibi yusufb: cevrilirsede KQX ♣ var yinede mutlu marlowepi: i can’t imagine passing the N hand, in third chair at these colors..p marlowepi: but 3D will probably be the contract sybarra: this could be the contract marlowepi: true marlowepi: except N will fear S has clubs sybarra: pard sometimes plays a 4/3 snorris: e-w can 3 © ¨ © © ¨ ¨ © - 25 - sharkey: Don’t understand why W would fail to © raise to 3 in OR when pd bid VUL snorris: n-s maybe 4 ♣ bg: 3h ok if partnership understanding that it can be that good sybarra: would you bid 4 first time? wilkinsona: East will take some stopping now marlowepi: 1H is the best practical bid on W hand even if playing 5-card majors idblu: once W can’t cue ♠, they should stop in 5 ♣ or 3N marlowepi: lack of any spade cuebid ought to stop everybody cindy: as soon as she finds out they have no ♠ control the brakes will be put on idblu: 5 mcarroll: Never predict a flat board they will always find a way to outwit the commentator!! ralfwil: For me - no opening on S ahollan1: tournament homepage is http://www.jcbl.or.jp /game/nec/necfest.html -- i believe the finals are 4 sets of 16 boards xenya: i think 2nd trump was a mistake but no doubt she was playing for some other distribution ovncylmz: eymen 4sp oynanicak degil mi eccone: acˆ‰nca otomatik tokay1975: dogu bati cok tecrubeli bir cift bu tip turnuvalarda 10larca defa final gruplarinda oynadilar sengulerz: anladˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰mˆ‰z kadarˆ‰yla K*G kuvvetli 1♣ sistemlerinden birini oynuyor yakop: bizim su nereye gitti abi diyolar tokay1975: sp rua cl asda olabilir ama dusuk ihtimal batida olma olasiligi dahja yuksek eccone: all pas riyilikci: bu devre diˆ er maˆ§lardaki skorlar iˆ§in yakop: zor bir bord derlerse ˆ ilem olacak muhtemelen tez: cok bilenler yorumcu..iyi oynayanlar oyuncu:) riyilikci: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams _round.php?round=1410 vahaboglu: evet MolvaM: :) tez: 2♠ pas pas pas gidecek yakop: selamlar wilkinsona: all the same with 32 hcp and 3 tens its worth a look perhaps.. 2 cindy: no would never bid 4 snorris: how do you like this nt Hans? b_eymen: 2 bekleme eccone: 2 nt nat degildir heralde deniz_t: bu elle 3 nt mi 4♠ mi arkadaˆ lar, ne dersiniz? ¨ © ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) eccone: 2 nt az eccone: 4♠ yada 3 nt demek lazˆ‰mdˆ‰ bence akgun: bedire katiliyorum az gelir ovncylmz: 3d nasil? eccone: 4♠ iyi akgun: 3nt hemen demek iyi deniz_t: deˆ iˆ ik cevaplar var ˆ¶zelden ama dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nceler ˆ u anda %50:) eccone: ortak 6 lˆ‰ ♠ dedi eccone: koza uygun el nezihk: gˆ…naydˆ‰n herkese arigun: ahmet beyazda olmanin huzuru ile 1NT overcall’unu rahatlikla yapti, kirmizida bu elle 1NT derken insanin elleri titriyor, hele hele stresin maksimum oldugu bu tur turnuvalarda tokay1975: cokta korktugunu sanmam 3 defansi vardi tez: ozgurle uzun sure ortaklik yaptik vugraphzhn: Efraimsson: You promise 3 trick?.. 6 marlowepi: P - P - 1H - 1NT -3H and now EW do not have an easy time barbyh: d1 with a d lead mariner1: yes N could have bid 1 or more to take advantage of the NV vs VUL 3rd seat cindy: hi all mariner1: some saying 2 and some 3 with N here wilkinsona: back again.. cindy: i just dont like the fact 3 takes up so much room bg: clubs great contract bg: 6 cindy: not fond of preempting our side snorris: now can s double? cindy: sorry marshall cindy: im slow typist werge: South will not ask for aces in this board.... sharkey: seems so shevek: I believe you Will idblu: 3 here would sound like a cue bid ahollan1: confession time --- playing Precision, i would open 1 in 1st seat roswolf: HARD TO RESIST BIDDING GAME MolvaM: makul 1 kontrat aruf: Ya 11-16 trefler yada 15-17 4 lˆ… tref ve 5 li major manasˆ‰nda acˆ‰yorlar 2 ♣ i MolvaM: 5♣ fena baraj deˆ il ama bu zon durumunda bulunmasˆ‰ zor riyilikci: hoˆ geldin Nezih abi riyilikci: 1/32 ilk devre sonuˆ§lari http://clubs.vugraph.com /tbricfed/teams_round.php?round=1400 © © © © © © © riyilikci: gelecek devreler http://clubs.vugraph.com /tbricfed/teams_event.php?event=172&stage=369 yakop: sizce :? yakop: devamˆ‰ sonra yakop: bi anlaˆ mazlˆ‰k var ama:( vahaboglu: ♣ partaj vahaboglu: olduˆ u iˆ§in 6♠ vahaboglu: dummy reverse ile de oluyor 6♠ vahaboglu: Pass-pass- DBL nezihk: zafer 4 sp diyecek tez: 4♠ oynanir dedi garo...yapilir demedi nezihk: ortakda kˆ‰sa kor gˆ¶rˆ…lˆ…yor yakop: demeside lazˆ‰m kˆ‰rmˆ‰zˆ‰ beyaz da oynatmaz heralde MolvaM: bu zon durumunda 3 tehlikeli mpny: EW can make 3 of either round suit.. K sharkey: looks like a tad high caitlin: 2♠ sure looks like super accept MolvaM: turnuvanˆ‰n baˆ larˆ‰nda genellikle makul ve mantˆ‰klˆ‰ kontratlar oynanˆ‰r MolvaM: ama ˆ¶zellikle akˆ am yemeˆ i sonrasˆ‰ kontratlar biraz daha yaratˆ‰cˆ‰ olmaya baˆ lar deniz_t: ve kontrat:) nezihk: hoˆ gˆ¶rdˆ…k arigun : irfan eli upgrade ederse zon2a gelip batarlar tokay1975: selam garo tez: bilirim neyi ne anlamda konusur:) yusufb: selammm garo marlowepi: eighth time’s the charm! welcome.. A mariner1: hi Cindy frankaus: many here will open 2 or equivalent with N hand marlowepi: happy ending wilkinsona: surely West had a 3 heart bid here.. panja: 4♠ now.. ralfwil: take the money by a D marlowepi: that’s cuz u worry about typosezb cindy: yes :) xenya: i’m with you Ralf mcarroll: Me too werge: In their system it is probably a reasonable minimum opening athene: south, having passed, can make aggressive forward-going moves athene: she can’t have any more than this shevek: Mullamphy opened 1♣ with south’s yo_yo: it’s not that great a slam ahollan1: nice suit, easy rebids and most important -strength limited by failure to open 1♣ santyclz: As would I. But I’d pass here. ¨ © © © - 26 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) idblu: N will never P here santyclz: No, I would have passed with s. eccone: karo kup var eccone: K arigun: ♣ as ciktiktan sonra donusu batiracak tez: 2 iceri girecek tez: selam:) tez: 2nt dermi?bu zon durumunda zon kacirmaktan © korkmaz 2♠ der bence marlowepi: S may just run the fiamonds and lead a club,hoping to read position..♣5 snorris: the law.. wilkinsona: ..or there sharkey: Yes - The "LAW" shud compel W to fight to at least 3 I think ralfwil: also from the beginning. 5-card support! wilkinsona: 4hearts looks ok on a cross ruff play othered1: In contemporary bidding 2 on this auction is pretty much not invitational sybarra: likely a push eccone: dengeli 10 larla 5 li renk yoksa davet etmek iyi sonuc vermez genelde exerdar: 1el yukarˆ‰ ˆ§ˆ‰ktˆ‰lar muhtemelen bu elden imp gidecek eccone: zaten ortakta iyi bir 14 olsa 1 nt acar yakop: slm herkese eccone: wc :) fahir: merhabalar yakop: bakalˆ‰m genˆ§ler abilerine karˆ ˆ‰ ne yapacak exerdar: selamlar exerdar: dam ataˆ ˆ‰ valeyi atmayˆ‰ istiyormuˆ © © exerdar: ilker ataklarˆ‰ soruyor sanˆ‰rˆ‰m:) yakop: bu elde dam atagˆ‰ iyi sonuˆ§ vermez tabi klasik oynuyolarsa yakop: ortak kucuk verince donuˆ problem MolvaM: pik fitinin bulunmasˆ‰na 2dk kaldˆ‰ phantoma: Salvo bu elle mudahale etmeyerek tecrubesini gosterdi tez: garo hosgeldin yakop: hb marlowepi: some saying 8H too..♣2 snorris: 3 ♠ showing a better hand than weak shift jump panja: play should be interesting.... Walddk4: Welcome to Nobuyuki Hayashi, NPC of the Japan Open team on many occasions mcarroll: I dislike it intensely werge: Better than any other opening with that hand marlowepi: lucky layout for NS given that they - 27 - will get a clib lead vugraphzhq: 3NT by Hackett mcarroll: Although it seems to have worked sharkey: % no - but makes :) athene: 4 is aggressive facing a passed hand ovncylmz: 2 nin 0-8 oldugu yazmakta konvansiyon kartinda riyilikci: 2 = dengesiz 4lˆ… tutuˆ npcjpn: Hi, everyone...♣K bg: 6 spades goes for 1100 better than 6 cubs cindy: was 4N supposed to be keycard there or just general slam try ? sybarra: interesting if it was npcjpn: I am not sure, but some kind of slam try with direct 5♣ shows just competing. cindy: well keycard is sorta futile with that void cindy: hi nobuyuki :) werge: 1 ♣ - pass 1 - pass - ??? snorris: not the killing lead... snorris: I agree Hans ralfwil: I have seen so many nt-openings with a singleton major, and I don´·t like it irwinbo: wd wilkinsona: sure well done bg: declarer may get nevous here but cannot go wrong bg: nervous xenya: only a ♠ lead beats slam ralfwil: Now he must support ♣ arigun : 2 ♣ acisi ya 6li ♣ 11-15 yada 5li ♣ yaninda bir major yine 11-15 olmasi lazim vugraphzkg: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ teams_event.php?event=172&stage=368 ovncylmz: ama ayni zamanda 1♣ 15+herhangi bir el:) ovncylmz: 4♣ 5M 16 ile ne aciyorlar acaba?:) arigun: her iki durumda da 2nt biraz degisik oldu, dbl biraz daha iyi sanki "gibi" :) nezihk: nevzatˆ‰n bu sefer kontr atmamasˆ‰ ortaˆ ˆ‰n ˆ§ok zayˆ‰f aˆ§abildiˆ ini gˆ¶steriyor eccone: gerci ona ragmen bi batˆ‰yor eccone: 3 ortaga ne yapalˆ‰m sorusu olur heralde arigun: lakin heran yaptirilabilir barbyh: what is 2nt here can possibly be a raise.. ♣4 snorris: agree cindy: so if general try what should E’s bid be ? cindy: 5♠ i think npcjpn: I think so too. werge: North had the double! - diamonds behind snorris: not much defence in s s hand ¨ ¨ © © ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) mcarroll: If you cannot open 1♣ it is difficult, but I would open 1 ¨ in that case werge: Neither do I, but I was asked about THIS hand idblu: he will be nervous after the lead...but all’s well that end’s well thommos: yes, but once Spade Finese works it will be very quick thommos: duck QC ahollan1: i never remember name of convention where 2m = m + Major :( fabsayc: notice how DONT effectively preempted NS ahollan1: i’m not a fan of superaccept with 3 card support --- especially when North has said things not breaking well fabsayc: he has 4 al caitlin: this is for hearts--four card support ahollan1: opps wrong glasses caitlin: lol:)) santyclz: The ones full of scotch? athene: if you play sensible control-bids, 4 denies a club control so 4 confirms one ahollan1 : tough call for South on 2nd bid -RDBL and 2 both reasonable idblu: very nice...catered to the 3 not being natural ahollan1: well done Ino! idblu: impressive vulkan: 1KC ve koz Dam dˆ‰ˆ arda, 6 demezler vulkan: evet 2nt iyi olmadˆ‰ vugraphzkg: tˆ…m maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz vugraphzkg: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ teams_event.php?event=172&stage=368 nezihk: bu takdan sonra yapma ˆ ansˆ‰ olabilir tokay1975: 500 muthis skor araya girilmese 1nt paspas MolvaM: olmadˆ‰ MolvaM: 5pik kadar yapabilir durumda doˆ u-batˆ ‰ mariner1: Marlow do they have a card for that :).. ♠5 cindy: how about 1H mariner1: Marshall panja: if declarer removes trumps early, and then loses finesse....he would go down..so he might think of getting Clubs in snorris: thats another way to cope yes caitlin: Al I had to look twice...thought it was my glasses ahollan1: 2♠ as superaccept may mean they’re © ¨ ¨ © © ¨ © using the old Walsh Relays --- where 2 is OR slam going minor 1-suiter ahollan1: but still has to make it --- ♣ lead will help a lot santyclz: I guess that’s why I’m watching, not playing. Walddk4: Welcome to Ed Shapiro othered1: Hi, everyone! santyclz: Hi Ed. idblu: Hi Ed...welcome :) eccone: kˆ¶rede batmaz ama kritik olur eccone: kˆ¶r atak edilse ilginˆ§ olabilirdi riyilikci: kuzey tarafindan oynanan bir ˆ lem iyi olacakti tokay1975 : ar diaya attiktan sonra elden dia caksa 3lusuyle gokhan cle cakip vale h oynadigi zaman batiyordu arigun: en kolay cezalandirilan deklerasyon 1nt overcalludur (acis degil), devaminda kacisda pek mumkun olmaz iyi bir fit bulamazsaniz yakop: iyi karar verdi irfan da zafer de MolvaM: gˆ…naydˆ‰n hˆ…seyin avcˆ‰oˆ lu :) MolvaM: ama mumcuoˆ lu karolar diye girince aslan yanda 4lˆ… pik ummadˆ‰ sybarra: surpiese Morath didnt say no, just 2 ..♠ 4 vugraphzhn: Board 27, same result at Sjˆ¶bergBergstrˆ¶m table Walddk2: Efraimsson will soon realise that this was a phantom, but I would have done the same I must confess marlowepi: E sequence showed a good hand mariner1: yes 1 looked more normal to me,,,,,,,, some kibbers very aggressive marlowepi: no but it is on a par with 2H or 3H barbyh: then he has to make 2 pitches mcarroll: yesd he has an Ace - in partner’s suit, Probably a trump trick - and we have seen some really unconvincing opening bids panja: difficult for West too..he does not have Club guard..so removing trumps isnt attractive.. ralfwil: I think Hackett should have doubled with his KJx wilkinsona: difficult lead for west though sybarra: and come crashing down, bridge is easy game thommos: a partscore win to N/S yo_yo : well it’s natural for Hanlon to try for game mdgraham: yes - almost mirrored shapes, which never play too well sharkey: EW would probably not have entered © ¨ ¨ - 28 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) into the bidding on this hand. 3♠ by S is normal in many partnerships I believe ahollan1 : no comprende scotch --- i’m into fermented grapejuice like Zin Walddk4: Best line is to win in hand and test clubs vulkan: kˆ¶r pasˆ‰ geˆ§iyo fakat karo kupuna batˆ‰yor arigun: ♠ gidiyor lakin halen batacak tokay1975: 6liyi vaelyle gecip sp donusune 7 elde kalˆ‰rdˆ‰ MolvaM: zorlama bir 3nt her zamanki gibi eerbil: okay kˆ¶r damˆ‰nˆ‰ bulsa bile ˆ…mitsiz bir 3nt MolvaM: bir taraf 8-9 ile davet ediyor. diˆ er taraf ta inˆ allah 9 vardˆ‰r diye kabul ediyor panja: nothing else seems promising..♠Q snorris: 3 times to lock him on the table snorris: and hope for 2-2 in minors in n ralfwil: as the cards lie win on hand an play a ♣ to the Q panja: my sense is...this will now go ♣A, ♣ ruff, another trumps, and a Club...let us see...declarer, not knowing finesse is in...will have to think hard about his options cindy: im thinking they werent on same page but it worked out great ralfwil: ♠K Walddk4: To see if you can afford the safety play in hearts later (small to the ace) werge: If they land this slam, it has been quite a start athene : but south might now fear that 5 ♠ is askin for good trumps (which she hasn’t got) rather than a club control (which she has) arigun: bir tur den sonra guney 4 tur ya uydugu icin bir sansi var arigun: pardon kuzey aruf: batˆ‰dan dbl la baˆ lamayˆ‰ tercih ederdim nezihk: 2 trefl ve 2 kor verecek gibi vulkan : 4kˆ¶r 4 karo yapˆ‰yor, bir lˆ¶ve de defans verse hala zor nezihk: dbl a katˆ‰lˆ‰yorum, hem 15 olmasˆ‰ hem de trefl durdurmasˆ‰ nedniyle arigun: elde kalmasi iyi olmadi ancak sansi yok, 10 lu yerde olsaydi pasi ele gelip sonra 4 tur dan sonra ♣ oynayip bir sansi olabilirdi vugraphzkg: ilk board iˆ§in direktˆ¶r istendi ovncylmz: ne yapalim diyo iste:) nezihk: 3 korde sorun yok, nezihk: defans iˆ§in en iyi defans koz defansˆ‰ tez: defans fire verirse 1 iceri © ¨ © ¨ © - 29 - ¨ tez: dam ♣ oynayacak..ruaya cakip kozla disari cikarsa 2 batacak riyilikci: oynayan dam trefle rua koymazsa 1 iˆ§ eri ile kurtarˆ‰r tez: kambura yatmak deniyor bizim oralarda:) sharkey: Or perhaps they have seen pd’s overcalls VUL before......♠2 ralfwil: he heard me! idblu: the hesitation indicates no ♠ K ralfwil: this opens up for a ♠ lead idblu: u and me both Joe b_eymen: sorunsuz ovncylmz: 6karo sorunsuzdu ovncylmz: :) eccone: J♣ pref idi MolvaM: kˆ¶rden 2 el verse dahi sorun yok MolvaM: ama bu tˆ…r az puanlˆ‰ kontratlar ˆ§ ok sˆ‰k yapˆ‰ldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in genellikle deklare etmekte yarar gˆ¶rˆ…yor herkes tez: tayfun u niye bastan tutmadi anlamadim phantoma: dogan bu zon durumunda cok zayˆ‰f konusmus ise zon kacirilmasi da olasi tez: 1♠ pas 1nt dbl=acis rengine take out oynuyorlar cindy: i mean dont ya want a heart lead ?..♣3 ralfwil: always a problem! isn´·t it? sharkey: S pushed OR as well mcarroll : Another delicate contract - the 4-1 trump break makes it difficult xenya: feels it can be made but, again, a delicate handling is needed here b_eymen: artifisyel oynayanlarˆ‰n rahatlˆ‰kla diyebilecegi bir 6 vulkan: evet 6 sorunsuz, fakat bu saatten sonra denmez b_eymen: diger masada nasˆ‰l oynuyolar ˆ¶vˆ …nˆ§ eccone: kˆ¶re batardˆ‰ heralde sengulerz: Gˆ…ray 2. devre sonuˆ§larˆ‰nˆ‰ girmek ˆ…zere.. birazdan 2. devre sonuˆ§larˆ‰nˆ ‰ web sayfamˆ‰zda gˆ¶rebileceksiniz tez: en kitabi 4♠..derslerde hep bu eli yaziyorum:) yusufb: 1♠ pas 4♠ pas pas x nasˆ‰l bi el olurdu othered1: 4 looks pushy to me, but it did fine partner with a near-perfect 11 count..♣7 snorris: agree yo_yo: I suppose Hackett and Hanlon are off to the gold coast congress in Australia othered1: Interesting plays at tricks 1 & 2. This hand has gotten lots less complex ahollan1: probably doesn’t matter -- but can it hurt to play ♣9? ovncylmz: 2♣ kuvvetli oynaniyor diger masada ¨ © © ¨ © ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) da akgun: cakip as karoyu cikarirsa yapardi sanirim ovncylmz: hala cok net degil bence ovncylmz: :) eccone: suan net akgun: 2. elde karo oynamazsa batabilirdi sanirim eccone: A ♣ atagˆ‰na batarˆ‰ kalmadˆ‰da eccone: ortak bu 2♠ leri 6 lˆ‰ ile diyosa 4♠ MolvaM: herhalde kˆ¶r tutsa 0-4 ten fazla gˆ¶ stermiˆ olacaktˆ‰ marlowepi: right. that is why he has to read the position..♣A bg : should play heart now if he draws trump could get in trouble cindy: yes he has all the club spots npcjpn: I will tell the operater to catch up the meaning of alerted bid later. cindy: ty npcjpn: so far we have no clue of 3 and 5 . cindy: dare we suggest next ? idblu: ♠ can’t be wrong caitlin: they hear you Roland eccone: yok degilse 3 olabilir wilkinsona: on the other hand a psychic cue from East may have stood a chance..♣T idblu: Migr saves time :) athene: ok well done shevek: problem with opening south’s hand is that you’ll pull the breaks (like south did in the OR)... yo_yo: would you say that if K was with East? arigun: 9 lu yerdeymis eve yere birakabilirmis nezihk: 2 trefl dbl’dan sonra aydoˆ du ˆ§iftinin anlaˆ masˆ‰ nasˆ‰l acaba, rdbl mesela? vugraphzkg: skor dˆ…zeltmesi olabilir vugraphzkg: yada geˆ§erli olur tokay1975: ben olsam ozgurun yerˆ inde ufak dia donerdim as dia ortaktaysa vugraphzkg: pasˆ‰nˆ‰ sorup claim yaptˆ‰ tokay1975: tek sansim ralfwil: T think W should have bid 3 ..♣8 Walddk4: The same should happen here athene: well - as has been remarked, it’s not that great a slam yo_yo: or the spades didnt behave? athene : perhaps the double, showing clubs, makes it slightly better than 50% that the K is right b_eymen: 2♣ 3 diyebilirdi gˆ…ney ama pek begenmedi elini galiba vulkan: zorlu 2 kˆ¶r +1 yapˆ‰yor, 1 imp izmire fahir: herkese ˆ zmir’den merhabalar, umarˆ‰m © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ keyifli bir 4lˆ… olur ve katˆ‰lamayanlarda rahat ˆ§a izleyip burayˆ‰ yaˆ ayabilirler tokay1975: slam hala yuzde 50 cok kotu diil ama 1 bataak bu daalˆ‰mla riyilikci: evet kˆ¶tˆ… karo daˆ ilimi ve 3-1 koz iˆ leri bozuyor riyilikci: 5cl iyi kontrat ama eerbil: bence zonda olmasalardˆ‰ gˆ¶khan 1nt’ ye pas geˆ§ebilirdi MolvaM: evet genellikle zondayken daha ticari kontratlar tercih ediliyor tez: prensip su zonda zon kacirmak tehlikelidir..ve defans zor istir.hataya aciktir..ben 3 nt derdim demiyorum ama oyuncular boyle dusunuyor MolvaM: peki sen ne derdin. biz seyirciler merak ediyoruz onu da tez: elin basinda yoktum gercekten..bric dersindeyim phantoma: gunaydin herkese nezihk: irfan pik sayˆ‰sˆ‰nˆ‰ verdi mi? tez: bence ♠ i sayiyla oynamaliydi tez: 800 aliriz demek bizim koyde roswolf: heart back ..♣Q sybarra: doubt S will be alone in this contract ralfwil: Will the one suit squeeze work here? xenya: sure -- both 4♠ and 5♣ look obvious snorris: now all is well bg: 5dia probably 3 key cards in clubs werge: now... idblu: as well as the switch :) mpny: this is a very normal result ovncylmz: guneyin elindeki QJXXXX karo ile agresif tutum alinmasi gerekiyor bu slemi bulmak icin b_eymen: veya sistem geregi tokay1975: 3ntda yapilabiliyodu h bile cˆ‰kˆ‰ lsa eccone: .. snorris: the best yes..♣6 arigun: 2 tur boslaninca 9 a geldi tokay1975: batiririz demek bnm kitabˆ‰mda sharkey: :)..♣9 wilkinsona: I think thats asking a bit idblu: 2 IN THE or ahollan1: partner just needs stiff J for tap to work -- but no luck today othered1: I was away and missed the semifinals, but every time I’ve seen them, the China Women team has just sat there and taken their tricks, occasionally with aggressive initial actions. ... othered1: I’ll be interested in seeing if they can keep this style up. idblu: why change when it works ¨ © ¨ © ¨ - 30 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) ahollan1: quoting Barry Rigal "strongest national xenya: i think the natural line of taking a double team" idblu: as long as they don’t "tilt" idblu: and I don’t see them doing that tez: ♠ devamina olacak MolvaM: diˆ er taraf 5 X oynanˆ‰yormuˆ tez: iki kisa rengi var..4lu fit..disarda adeletli bi dagilim olsa mariner1: and you know E is very likely to have an opening bid.. 9 marlowepi: looks like he is trying to read the position now thommos: agreed ralfwil: and perhaps also E could have bid 3 instead of 2 Walddk4: Strong players indeed athene: but against that there are the chances of club ruff, or the ♠Q scoring yusufb: baˆ tan yok x diyemedim gibi bi elmi acaba wilkinsona: 11 tricks, NP.. Q arigun: sabah maclarida ozellikle afyonun gec patlamasindan dolayi bayagi eglenceli gecer MolvaM: ˆ¶zyuva takˆ‰mˆ‰ kocaeli’den yakop: goksu bu ataga epey sinirlrnmiˆ tir vahaboglu: natˆ…relde tokay1975: hangimiz 3 demez davet gelince Walddk4: Welcome to Jaap Frijling.. 3 vulkan: aˆ§ˆ‰k odada 1.bordu diˆ er taraf 2♣ dbllˆ‰ oynuyor aruf: bugˆ…n bu maˆ§ haricinde 3 maˆ§ daha olacak ve gruplarda ilk ˆ…ˆ§ sˆ‰raya giren takˆ ‰mlar knock out lara girebilecekler ovncylmz: 1.board tam 12-14nt lik bir el ovncylmz: :) ovncylmz : Dogu bati ilk 16boardluk bir bric macinin ilk 3eli icin cok fazla yoruldular wilkinsona: for EW not to fight seems strange ( though I may go -200 in 4Hx, I admit).. 8 yo_yo: and stop off conveniently for this congress sharkey: S trying to create an endplay - but in vain on the actual layout sharkey: also need ♠ to break sharkey: but - no guts - no glory :) athene: i would say slam probably comes out at about 50%, so the expectation from bidding or not bidding it is about the same in the long run ahollan1: while we wait -- I just checked NS CC -they do use 2 opening as weak + minor -but require 55 jaapfr: gm all jaapfr: hoi Roland all specs finesse in trumps is doomed xenya: hello Jaap jaapfr: hoi vlad mcarroll: Hi Jaap jaapfr: hoi martin MolvaM: deklaran daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰m hakkˆ‰nda bilgi toplamaya ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰yor riyilikci: hosgeldin Mete nezihk: yusuf 1 kor elden 4 kup lˆ¶vesi 2karo ve 1 pik lˆ¶vesiyle 8 lˆ¶ve sayˆ‰yor, onun iˆ§in pik empasˆ‰nˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor nezihk: fakat hala karodan ˆ ansˆ‰ var bence Q koyacak riyilikci: empas atmaz karoyu da bilirse 4 yapiyor :) riyilikci: devre sonuˆ§lari http://clubs.vugraph.com /tbricfed/teams_event.php?event=172&stage=369 arigun : hele hele kirmizida, biraz agresif bir rakip kizgin boga gibi gelir insanin ustune :) birde kismetsiz gunumuzdeysek boganin altinda fotograflariniz internete duser, en cok tiklanan ... arigun: fotograflar kismina :) tez: 5 yapilabilir roswolf: now west must hang on to his diamonds.. ♣J bg: next MolvaM: ve kˆ¶r as birisinde 2 parˆ§a olabilir mi diye bakˆ‰yor MolvaM: belki de 1 IMP kazanabilmek iˆ§in tez: herseyi bilerek:) yusufb: defansif love olan marlowepi: which major to finesse....cant go wrong.. 3 panja: still..what if ♠ were 4-1? snorris: not sure if this is the best play , like yours betterPanja yo_yo: nice life eccone : ewet, dogu olarak aslˆ‰nda birtek ortaktaki AQ batˆ‰yo gibi yakop: ˆ eytan girdi iˆ§ime demek:) cindy: that sounds right.. 2 npcjpn: Should south hop with A? MolvaM: mersin bˆ b takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰n hangi ilden olduˆ unu ise daha sonra aˆ§ˆ‰klayacaˆ ˆ‰ z. :) nezihk: batˆ‰nˆ‰n karoya pik atmayˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ ‰ anlamak mˆ…mkˆ…n deˆ il arigun: heyecanli bir mac oluyor ralfwil: Not now, burt if Fredin had played Q.. 5 Walddk2: he has nothing elsed to hang onto ahollan1: PO Sundelin says he has treatment ¨ © ¨ © © © © © © - 31 - © ¨ ¨ © © ¨ © © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) ¨ where 2 can also be a signoff in ♠ athene: but bidding it is more exciting :) and is certainly consistent with these players’ style sharkey: can only admire the Chinese ladies athene: if you are playing against Chinese ladies and you score +680, you can just write down -13 imps sharkey: lol sharkey: S opened OR - didn’t come out shevek: this is not vul, but still.... idblu: I don’t think S can handle this santyclz: Going to have to take the ♣ finesse. idblu: unless hook ♣ idblu: :) eccone: 4♠ K♣ atagˆ‰ alˆ‰nmassa yapˆ‰lˆ‰ yor MolvaM: demek pik fiti o masada da bulunamamˆ ‰ˆ ? tez: yani ♠ disinda renk istiyor 1nt ye kontr fabsayc: defense slipped after a good opening lead.. K mcarroll: So it seems tokay1975: normal degerlendirmede otomatik 3 vahaboglu: sayˆ‰lar akrˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰ frankaus: looks like 12 imps to EW here.. A mdgraham: years ago I went off in a grand slam I had a singleton, and could count 13 tricks if partner could take a ruff in my hand. However, he held singleton ace and there were only 12 ... mdgraham: tricks vulkan: 2H tam oldu nezihk: girmezse olabilir eccone: ♣ dˆ¶nmesi pasifoldu gibi biraz nezihk: karo gelirse olur.. 4 vulkan: kˆ¶r oynar nezihk: yok pardon karoyu kaˆ§mˆ‰ˆ aruf: temposu yetiˆ miyor cindy: sorry i came in the middle of the hand.. 7 snorris: nowadays a 3 bid is difficult to punish anyway ralfwil: a from the table! ahollan1: use ♠ to pull trump idblu: yes othered1: right nezihk: evet arigun: ayni anda 2 masayi birden seyretmek istiyorsaniz ; arigun: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ vahaboglu: karˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰ sharkey: but hard to Dbl 3 when you have 10 trumps - so risk minimal.. 5 ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ fabsayc: good play of heart 10 wilkinsona: sorry 10 tricks mdgraham: mirror shapes vulkan: im alˆ‰ˆ veriˆ i yok vulkan: imp arigun: bu link’e tikladiginiz anda, bbo’ya web uzerinden erisip diger masayi da seyredebilirsiniz nezihk: ˆ imdi karoyu bilmesi gerekiyor tez: bi tek seyi kacirmamak gerekli bence..ortakta zonda oldugumuzu gorerek 2 nt diyor Walddk2: and Fallenius must hope Fredin has 10.. 9 snorris: will south risk a club lead to the king? idblu: gin thommos: next b_eymen: ilginˆ§ eccone: as girilip ♠ oynadˆ‰gˆ‰nda batˆ‰ yordu vahaboglu : 1 ♣ -1 ♠ -4s olarak giderse ˆ ilem demek zor olabilir snorris: no.. J snorris: 8 tricks vahaboglu: da da sayˆ‰ verilmedi eccone : dam ♠ K ♠ olmasˆ‰ lazˆ‰mdˆ‰ dogru temponun..♠6 ovncylmz: upps vahaboglu: 4♠ tez: netekim:) marlowepi: careful cindy. censors don;t like the middle of the hand.. 8 MolvaM: zabunoˆ lu maˆ§ta ˆ¶ne geˆ§mek ˆ… zere vugraphzkg: 9lu ˆ aˆ ˆ‰rttˆ‰ galiba:) ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © ¨ - 32 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 5 c 5 this/total IMPs Quantum 107 Primabridge 1 58 N 6 620 S 5 650 lestergold: as in the closed room lestergold: the dim slam is interesting - a spade 7 ♠10 9 4 KQ5 11 12 AQ6 43 8 ♣AK 9 ♠K 6 5 4 N ♠ AQ J 87 3 10 J973 W E 952 J S ♣8 7 4 3 2 ♣ Q10 ♠2 2 9 A8642 2 K10 8 7 1 ♣J65 5 ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © © © © ¨ © 4 4 -800 W: Andonov W p 4♠ p p N: Nanev Open S: Mihov N E 1♣ 2 p! p 5 p ¨ ¨J,K,5,4 ¨Q,ª7,¨8,9 ©Q,7,4,§3 ©6,ª5,¨3,©J §2,A,T,5 #1 E:: #3 N:: #5 N:: #7 S:: #9 W:: E: Popov © S X 4N p ¨ © © ª ª ª ª ¨ #2 S:: 7,2,A, 3 #4 N:: K,3,2,T #6 N:: 5,9,A, 4 #8 N:: 9,J,2,K #10 N:: T,Q, T, ndemirev: i count only 7 trciks for 1nt , did i © ¨ miss something? ..p..1♣!..2 !.. lestergold: hm chance for a swing here 6d an excellent contract for n/s surely roswolf: well the diamond slam seems to be with the odds lestergold: and 6h unlucky on the heart break ndemirev: so this can be a 17 imps swing either way..4♠!..p! roswolf: yes a swingy board at last whiche/w need to get right or n/s to get wrong!..p..4N! lestergold: oh disappointment..p..5 ..p..p..p lestergold: no blopodletting after all roswolf: yup but 1 or 2 imps to the trailing team anyway lestergold: yes the barrage took up too much space ¨ - 33 - lead and continuation makes it impossible to set up the fifth heart to enjoy a club discard but the qc drops doubleton in any case so makes lestergold: so should make 12 tricks here by the same token.. J lestergold: on this lead the heart can be set up and enjoyed.. K.. 5.. 4.. 7.. 2.. A..♠3.. Q..♠7.. 8.. 9.. K.. 3.. 2.. T.. Q.. 7.. 4 roswolf: btw are they playing with screens?..♣3.. 5.. 9.. A..♠4.. 6 lestergold: cl..♠5.. 3 © © © © ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 5 c 5 ¨ © 4 this/total IMPs Primabridge 1 58 Quantum 107 N 6 620 S 5 650 4 7 ♠10 9 4 KQ5 11 12 AQ6 43 8 ♣AK 9 ♠K 6 5 4 N ♠ AQ J 87 3 10 J973 W E 952 J S ♣8 7 4 3 2 ♣ Q10 ♠2 2 9 A8642 2 K10 8 7 1 ♣J65 5 -800 W: V.Aronov W p 4♠ p ª © ¨ N: S.Skorchev Closed E: J.Stefanov S: B.Popov N E S 1♣ 2 3 5 p p © © © ª © ª © § © ralfwil: a terrible start for NS..©J..♠9..♠J..♠2.. ♠K..♣2..♣A..♣T..♣5..♠T..♠Q..¨T snorris: well he sure knows 5 © isnt a winner ralfwil: if he had ducked ©Q #1 W:: K,9,A,2 #3 S:: 4,T,Q,7 #5 N:: 3,J,K,2 #2 E:: Q, 2, 4,T #4 N:: K,3,6, 3 #6 S:: A,,, wilkinsona: happy enough to go + cindy: its a little early for psychic cues isnt it sybarra: and "next" joey silver is playing in this tourney sybarra: he is on the JUICE team vugraphzhq: right NS position idblu: they were one of the pretournament favourites...but were 20th after 2 days werge: This board looks like coffee mdgraham: nice EW fit sharkey: that’s being down on your luck Mike yo_yo: very good prizes in this tournament I am told so worth the stop over athene: west might perhaps open 1nt MolvaM: bugˆ…n 3 maˆ§ yapˆ‰lacak MolvaM: bugˆ…nkˆ… diˆ er maˆ§lar 17:10 da vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 MolvaM: ve 20:30da nafiz: Eymen Bedir de bizle, hoˆ geldin Eymen MolvaM: eymen bedir de bize katˆ‰lˆ‰yor vugraphzkg: tunuva programˆ‰ takˆ‰m kadrolar ˆ‰ iˆ§in linke tˆ‰klayabilirsiniz MolvaM: hoˆ geldin eymen b_eymen: herkese selamlar b_eymen: bu ele bakˆ‰caz mpank61: karo asˆ‰nˆ‰ almamasˆ‰ ilginˆ§ eccone: cˆ‰kˆ‰nca A ikili ♣ bilirse yapardˆ ‰ belki eccone: 8 li yok eccone: J98X TEN YUKARDAN 9 VERMEK GEREKˆ YO eccone: j9xx ten bile akgun: kg 4s yapiyor arigun: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ aruf: :) banada ˆ¶yle geliyor bi mola almasˆ‰ gerekli ovncylmz: az onceki boardda masada kimse neler oldugunu anlamadi kesinlikle:) nezihk: kolya bir 4 pik eli eccone: 1♠ yada 1 eccone: 1 tercihimdir MolvaM: bu el ilginˆ§ MolvaM: bora’daki kˆ¶r puanlarˆ‰ baˆ ka yerde olsa ˆ lem ˆ§ok rahat olabilecek idi ovncylmz: ben su an gercekten 6.round sonundaki skorlari merak icindeyim:D sesimi duyan yok sanki akgun: sadece D grubunu biliyorum 4 yakim 1-2 puan arayla sˆ‰ralanˆ‰yor akgun: takim tuppermet: aˆ§ar puanˆ‰ kuzeye plase edince iˆ ler kˆ¶tˆ… gitti sengulerz : demin yerine oynansa ♠ 9 promosyonu alˆ‰nabilirdi riyilikci: kuzeyin eli ile 3cl diyerek treflleri gˆ¶ stermek sonra kˆ¶r deˆ erlerini duyunca 3NT den vazgeˆ§ip 5cl oynamak iyi fikir yakop: baraja devam ediim bari vahaboglu: Zabunoˆ lu iˆ§in iyi bir bord riyilikci: diˆ er maˆ§ˆ‰n skor kaˆ ˆ‰dˆ‰ riyilikci: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams _match.php?match=10100 MolvaM: ayrˆ‰ca 4-4 kˆ¶r fiti bulma ˆ…midi ile pas geˆ§mek de zor tokay1975: 4333 olmasi kotu estimation ama © ¨ ¨ © ¨ - 34 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) buna mukabil kontrollu ve clde empas aticak kaatlarimiz var tokay1975: 5 seviyesinde rekabetmi istiyo 2 minor diyemedi tez: 7 mariner1: 2N off 1 and 12 imps on last board..p snorris: and now we will know if e-w play strong © ♣ wilkinsona: once again in OR, EW have stolen an easy partscore it seems sharkey: we’re doing pretty good Snorri snorris: :) ralfwil: But I think this was the correct play. It provides ♠ 32 and if ♣K not is on side K must be snorris: 6 ? ralfwil: 4 on NS snorris: 1 NT? mdgraham: it was a long time ago, but I still remember :( ahollan1: he won’t remember this -- but PO is the only person to ever bid 4N to make after partner and I competed to 3N -- where it worked and pulled in all the matchpoints [25+ years ago ... ahollan1: i’m still waiting for chance to do that to somebody else] ralfwil: I am always irritated on my partner when he not shows his controls because a weak opening. For me he should have asked for aces athene: some people do with that exact hand ahollan1: 1 -1♠-? yo_yo: so the men are the Japanese Open team, do we know how they did in Beijing? nafiz: bu arada ˆ¶nceki maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰nˆ‰n 1 saat iˆ§inde TBF sitesinde yayˆ‰nlanmasˆ‰nˆ‰ umuyoruz vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 b_eymen: majˆ¶rler denilebilir ovncylmz: board 3te karo cuebidi ile ilgili bir problem oldu bence eymen, cunku 10-11 puanla 2c acan ortagi 4H de birakmak zor olsa gerek b_eymen: majjˆ¶rler denilebilir vugraphzkg: en kˆ‰sa sˆ…rede maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ ‰ yayˆ‰nlanacak federasyon internet sitesinde eccone: db sistem oynuyor sanˆ‰rˆ‰m ovncylmz: evet polish club ovncylmz: ya da ona benzer diyelim nezihk: fakat kuzeyde aˆ§ar olmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ belli ¨ © © - 35 - ¨ 3.den aˆ§tˆ‰ ve 1pike pass dedi eccone: 2.♣ in yerden kˆ…cˆ…k oynanmasˆ‰ kuzeyi kˆ‰llandˆ‰rabilirdi yakop: bu abiler baraj yapacakken etud ediyolar tokay1975 : sadece h cˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰p cle ufak konursa dv den batiyodu nezihk: molva senin dediˆ in eller gelmeye baˆ ladˆ‰ tez : en kucugunu oynamak ya 3 yada 5 kart gosterir yakop: bu elde problem zferde bence eger duz sayˆ‰ oynuyolarsa snorris: in north..1♣!..16+p, ANY ralfwil: a nice 6 and also a cheap save in 7♣ mpny: here i’m guessing 1H-2C-4C-5C idblu: D roswolf: this should be a quiet partscore arigun: yerde 5 tane varken 2. ♣ i boslamak cok mantikli degil, ♣ alip ♠ donse yine pek kabahati yok yakop: r sayˆ‰ istiyo oynuyorlar MolvaM: bu gibi ellerden sonra ortam birden bire ˆ§ok sˆ‰cak geliyor insana vahaboglu: dengeli 18-19 herhalde vahaboglu: 2 tez : final maclarinda hep guzel eller veriyor bilgisayar snorris: 1nt??..2 !..!Ss or !C+!D wilkinsona: declarer has a choice of plays in that 6NT in other room, best line not easy marlowepi: sidekick clues? cindy: lolol marlowepi: that is one beefy NT cindy: yes meaty idblu: 17 prime + 10’s galore marlowepi: i’d be tempted to open a minor and rebid 2NT. then i would succumb to temptation ralfwil: black and no sugar Hans? thommos: me too sharkey : 6 on for EW but NS will cloud the auction fabsayc: trump underlead might have beat it sybarra: likely off to the races? sybarra: hello Martin, welcome othered1: Is 7 good enough on, say, lead? caitlin: going to slam in other room caitlin: friendly clubs yo_yo: surely not 1NT on that hand ahollan1: neg dbl then or some immediate raise othered1: 1♠-2 looks normal, nowadays ( nobody doubles with north) © ¨ ¨ © © © © © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) mcarroll: in fact the most reasonable line - but unfortunately it didn’t work josj: Ino won the seniors, I think eccone: DERLE Mˆ ACEP? eccone: 2 dbl 2♠ pas ? akgun: guneyin enerjisine bagli eccone: babanlarmˆ‰ ˆ¶vˆ…nˆ§ kuzey ovncylmz: yes tez: 4 kiside onoru olan renkleri kim oynamaya baslarsa o taraf kaybeder..onceki elde 4 oyuncudada onoru vardi koksoy: elde var 2 MolvaM: az ˆ¶nce palto giysem mi diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ… nˆ…rken ˆ imdi evladˆ‰m su getirsene diye adam aramaya baˆ lar phantoma: 5♣ EW MolvaM: evet gˆ…nˆ…n ilk ˆ§ˆ‰lgˆ‰n daˆ ˆ‰lˆ ‰mˆ‰ geldi yakop: zorlu 5 tref derse super olacak nezihk: niye 6 deˆ il tez: iste bu eller gelecekki hep finalin tadi olsun:) MolvaM: ˆ ikansˆ‰z ve keycard eksiˆ i olmayan grandˆ lemleri herkes diyor. bu bord sorunsuz sybarra: was suggested by one spec " it guarantees 3 tens and the K of trumps lol"..3 ralfwil: J on S had solved a lot of problems for NS marlowepi: NV 1NT would appeal. red is another story. tough call for N ralfwil: With a singleton? this time minor! werge: Here North has no re-bid problem mdgraham: you’re on form Carl yo_yo: i am with you on that guess yo_yo: both wrong sharkey: Sry - S didnt follow up mdgraham: no - surprising xenya: with a less revealing auction, board 3 might produce a swing for the Dutch athene: really 1♠? athene: the rationale is, you are stuck after 1 1NT yo_yo: ah well, what do i know MolvaM: eymen aˆ§ˆ‰k milli takˆ‰mˆ‰mˆ‰zˆ ‰n genˆ§ oyuncusu eccone: gˆ…ney acˆ‰kla :) ovncylmz: Dogu batinin sistemi biraz enteresan gibi, 12-16 NT, 1♣ 2+♣ ya da 17+herhangi bir el, 1 4+.. 2c: 6+♣ ya da 5♣+4lu yan renk eccone: 1nt ne? yakop: jeologlar ve jeofizikˆ§iler iki farklˆ‰ goruˆ veriyolar fahir: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams_ ¨ ¨ © © © ¨ round.php?round=1408 exerdar: 5nt muhtemel declere tez: 2 acisi ne vaadediyor bir bilen nerede? MolvaM: birˆ§ok ortaklˆ‰k kuvvatli 1♣ aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰na karˆ ˆ‰ en etkili defans olarak mˆ…mkˆ… n olan her elle overcall yapmayˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ… yorlar tez: 11 ile herkes oyun aciyor 2 takimda Walddk2: without the 10 the defence could still have prevailed..4♠..pass or correct frankaus: may get to (failing) game here cindy: cant imagine trying to get to game with S hand mariner1: N in 3 here in Open sharkey : well - 13-15 NT it seems - shaded version snorris: singelton and all.. wilkinsona: 3rd in hand... anything goes wilkinsona: ..but turns up with 13 imps in cindy: too good for 1N imo cindy: probably work out well though since 10 looks like the lead bg: flat 7 should bring pass unless NS starting already to push abit yo_yo: i have great respect for Hanlon, he must have some cunning scheme werge: agree athene: for example, 1 - 1NT; 2 - 2 idblu: lets try again Al :) ahollan1: my ? referred to East’s bid santyclz : I x with n. That’s because my pd declares better than I do. idblu: so did I....he wasn’t ;istening josj: except if there are 2 of them yo_yo: pairs or teams? akgun: sanirim 1h i gormedi guney sengulerz: turnuva ˆ zmir’de fuarda bˆ…yˆ…k bir salonda oynanˆ‰yor riyilikci: ama bu kontratta 1 , 1 ,1♣ vererek batˆ‰yor exerdar: 6 tokay1975: ama neticede dunya sonu bi3ntya geliniyor tokay1975: acik kartta nezihk: hehe MolvaM: fakat bu arada bazen uygun kontratlara ulaˆ mak zorlaˆ abiliyor tez: ben acmazdim ibo nun eliyle MolvaM : gene 24 puanla 3ntye ulaˆ ˆ‰lacak muhtemelen yusufb: su an 55 54 minorleri olup ters zonda ortak konuˆ ursada iyi baraj bulunabilir veya ¨ ¨ © © © © ¨ ¨ © © ¨ - 36 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) rakibi 5seviyesine sˆ…rˆ…kleyebilir marlowepi: after a look at the S hand, I’s open 1D as N..5 mpny: i do not think 5 would keep EW out of slam anyway josj: teams vugraphzhq: yes yo_yo: does anyone have a link to some photos? Nice to see what they look like yo_yo: are there any hunks for example :) eccone: 4 nezihk: ikici trafli aldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda apeli gˆ¶recekti exerdar: all pass fahir: diˆ er maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰nˆ‰ bu linkten izleyebilirsiniz canlˆ‰ olarak yakop: 6d riyilikci: bu devre ˆ¶ncesi durum iˆ§in arigun: kucuk atagina slam ancak batabiliyor galiba, sonrasinda A alan ♠ oynuyor, koz 3-1 3lu tarafta ♠ 2 adet arigun: pasi gecmiyor arigun: geciyor arigun: gerci ♣ ataginada batacak heralde MolvaM: artˆ‰k turnuvalara giderken 8-4 ellerle ne yapacaˆ ˆ‰mˆ‰zˆ‰ detaylˆ‰ konuˆ mamˆ‰ z gerek koksoy: komik el arigun: deklarinin pasi icin yere gitmesi lazim, ♠ antresi gidiyor mariner1: same auction to 3 in both rooms..p cindy: dont want to discourage them from maybe bidding spades frankaus: the red game is tempting marlowepi: 1NT seems straightforward now by S sharkey: E not done yet... snorris: this is getting exiting ralfwil: a clear P on S snorris: will w pass? snorris: might loose it rigth away if 3 times after a loosing ♣ finesse cindy: oops now what bg: sproty balance bg: sporty snorris: a good contract snorris: presuming is 3-2 wilkinsona: this auction may get there ralfwil: I don´·t like this bidding. With this strong hand 1 must be the right bid. How can he now show 45 in / ? mdgraham: bidding 5♣ makes it awkward for EW to use Blackwood fabsayc: yes 7 is quite good, but seems unbiddable © © ¨ © ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ - 37 - ©¨ caitlin: they off to the races now othered1: And isn’t bidding 7 saying that they are almost certain to be in small slam in the other room? bg: good sequence 2nt asks for feature probably caitlin: no way they know about 5♣X swing mcarroll: But they stopped in 3NT ahollan1 : sorry -- unless playing with New Zealander -- DBL with North never would occur to me MolvaM: kendisi tˆ…rkiyeyi ˆ§in de yapˆ‰lan dˆ …nya ˆ ampiyonasˆ‰nda temsil etti 2008 de b_eymen: 2 ♠ b_eymen: bu sekans davet oldu b_eymen: seˆ§tirip piki tercih etmesi eccone: ♠ batar vugraphzkg: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ teams_event.php?event=172&stage=368 nezihk : ters taraftan oynansa da oluyor, hem karoyu alˆ‰p hem de trefl kupuna yetiˆ emiyor arigun: ♣ cikisina batiyor galiba vulkan: bu elle 4 le baˆ lamak daha iyi, bu ˆ lem daveti oldu aruf: yok karo gidiyor vugraphzkg: tˆ…m maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰ ve butler sˆ‰ralamasˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz eccone: 3 gf ise 3 eccone: 3♠ MolvaM: ˆ imdi ise ˆ leme gidip batma ihtimali var eˆ er kˆ¶r as ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lmazsa. ama yapˆ‰ labilir de riyilikci: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams _event.php?event=172&stage=369 iki maˆ§ hariˆ § arigun: 2. ♣ alindiginda ortagindan apel geliyor riyilikci: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=169:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi-sonuclari&catid=50: 2008-2009-sezonu&Itemid=99 phantoma: 6 biraz hayal gucu gerektiriyor W eli icin cindy: i think sproty is good adjective here :)..p sharkey: perhaps he refrained from raising for fear of aiding opps? mdgraham: not that they need it... sybarra: welcome Bruce caitlin: won’t envision Joey underleading Ace caitlin: will they risk it? caitlin: :) we are always very proud to say Bruce is Canadian:) mcarroll: This is another potential slam ralfwil: If I not will stand up for my opening I © © © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) should have passed mcarroll: I agree Ralf athene: now you are a bit good to pass and a bit weak for 2NT chessmaste: Dream on kabexnuf: texas oynuyorlar yazˆ‰yor cc de eccone: dogu alttan aldˆ‰ biraz3 eccone: denilebilir deniz_t: pas deˆ ilde sanki 2 nt gelse daha mˆ‰ iyiydi arkadaˆ lar, katˆ‰lˆ‰yormusunuz? riyilikci: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 yakop: jeologler biraz daha muhendis kafasˆ‰na sahipler:(kendilerince) tokay1975: 2h paspasi uyandiran? koksoy: iyi yerde durdular vahaboglu: 18-19 balanced mariner1: will S stop here?..p cindy: lol wilkinsona: lets hope you open diamonds as you may be passed out yo_yo: we dont use BW with a void Mike now :) othered1: How do you find you 8-card ♠ fits on part score hands? santyclz: The 1nt must be 14-16 or e would have invited. xenya: ♠ lead looks best riyilikci: bu devre diˆ er maˆ§lar riyilikci: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams _round.php?round=1410 tez: iyi aksamlar:)kulubumuzde turnuva var..kulupteyim:) arigun: 5 tedbirsiz oyuna batabilir mi ? vahaboglu: ok? tez: ok ty nezihk: olmuyor zaten yakop: zaten dbl karolarsa 3 bile hayal:) tez: 2 riskli ama kesinlikle bu risk alinmali bence MolvaM : bize 2-3 as dˆ‰ˆ arˆ‰dayken olan grandˆ lem lazˆ‰m tokay1975: beyazda 1 e2 girisi cok yaygˆ‰n artik basit ellerle bile tez: grandslemler daima tehlikelidir bence Walddk2: by leading a heart ..♠K ralfwil: And N did! snorris: brave north sharkey: will he make it? snorris: is sveating I suppose a bit ralfwil : they didn´·use any methods. Stright forward © ¨ ¨ caitlin: keep playing another 25 years Al it will happen:) Walddk4: Welcome to Jim Tritt wygbe1: hi all arigun: dogu oynarsa yani :) aruf: :) yakop: bi yer kaya ama baraj yapmak zor yani maliyet yuksek fahir: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams_ round.php?round=1408 yakop : gokhan atladˆ‰ ama yine de yapˆ‰ labiliyo MolvaM: yok Walddk2: cutting the communication..♠9 sybarra: flopping in to 3nt roswolf: cutting communications vugraphzhn: 5Cl -1 not doubled at Sjˆ¶bergBergstrˆ¶m table, they are N/S mariner1: our S a little more aggressive cindy: might make with lead marlowepi: NonVul i would pass with S hand. Vul S is worried about N having e.g. AKxxxx and J of diamonds & stiff spade sharkey: not too many entries in N.... ralfwil: and will probably smile when seeing the table snorris: right wilkinsona: yep...sneaks home I think panja: y, this was based on 32 trumps AND ♣K onside ralfwil: Yes if ♠10 doesn´·t drop snorris: right fabsayc: not sure i like 3 snorris: after this "reverse" in north they will bid it...I think ralfwil: even if they play strong ♣ wilkinsona: may well, south may think partner has a singleton spade for example ralfwil: only after 1nt sharkey: Ms West made a pragmatic bid - crude but effective this time fabsayc: take the finesse for free caitlin: or is it: I have to take this finesse caitlin: Hey Bruce Gowdy:) caitlin: and 3♣ max with King bg: Hi Caitlin/Martin/Ed othered1: Hi, Bruce! bg: nice to see our guys in the fight mcarroll: Even a Grand if guesses the ♣ werge: 4 NT = sign off? werge: For the grand, he must finess twice in ♣ ... ¨ © - 38 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) geller: Hi all, Bob Geller from Japan ralfwil: hi Bob geller: I predict Chen will bid 6nt now. he waas just fishing for 7 mcarroll: True Hans, mcarroll: Hi Bob xenya: actually board 3 turned out to be another huge gain for Japan, when the Dutch in OR landed in 3N -- no chance on a lead ralfwil: In 7nt he probably will go down as the percentage is for finessing over E jaapfr: hoi jim MolvaM: kendisi ABD takˆ‰mˆ‰na karˆ ˆ‰ oynanan sˆ…rkontrlu board ile bˆ…yˆ…k bir ˆ ˆ¶ hret yapmˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰r :) eccone: maalesef batˆ‰yor ama bu kalite renk varken ortagˆ‰n ♠ tutulmaz eccone: 5 der heralde MolvaM: bora nˆ‰n baˆ ka diyeceˆ i yok ama ahmet kˆ¶ker daha iˆ§ini tam dˆ¶kemedi :) eccone: :) vugraphzkg: evet deki kapatmasˆ‰ndan rahatsˆ ‰z olmus gibi eccone: 5 e sanˆ‰rˆ‰m araba yukardan hˆ‰ zlˆ‰ca 5♠ gelir MolvaM: doˆ rudan 6 pik? yakop: bi yer ne oldugu belirsiz ama ayak altˆ‰ kamyon giriˆ i falan musait yakop: harfiyat ve baˆ ka iˆ ler ucuz tokay1975: :) vahaboglu: 4 = ♠ ler mydi, yoksa bu da mˆ‰ karˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰ tez: leri tahsil ederlerse batacak tez: rdbl tez: 1.tur kontrol ralfwil: best lead..♠A sybarra: http://www.jcbl.or.jp/game/nec/necfest.html werge: Close to slam here... - without a -lead! panja: in the meantime, NS seem to have missed a game on B20 othered1: Not my style snorris: 11 tricks easy marlowepi: that’s a lot of cloud to line thommos: needed to lead a to beat it - I think mdgraham: yes. I like 6 caitlin: yes at other table Joey Silver from Montreal and John Carruthers from Toronto caitlin: sorry I don’t know the China Women’s team but if anyone does, tell us please b_eymen: ahaha MolvaM: hayˆ‰rlˆ‰sˆ‰ neyse o olsun deklaresi? eccone: oda mantˆ‰klˆ‰ pasam © © © © ¨ © © - 39 - © sengulerz: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ teams_event.php?event=172&stage=369 iki maˆ§ hariˆ§ riyilikci : turnuva bilgileri iˆ§in yukarˆ‰daki linke tˆ‰klayˆ‰n arigun: zafer As sormazsa 5 oynayacaklar... aksi takdirde 2 as disarda 6 arigun: sormaz heralde 1 key cardla arigun: tedbirin ne oldugu tartisilir muhakka MolvaM: kulˆ…bˆ…mˆ…zde turnuva varken tˆ… rkiye ˆ ampiyonasˆ‰ yapmayalˆ‰m mˆ‰ diyorsun yani tezcan? tez: as aldiginda ♠ oynarsa isi zor tez: 6 imp gelirdi oyle MolvaM: ˆ imdi bord egale olacak tez: tabiki atagi mantikli tez: yoksa ortak daima ♠ atak eder sybarra: this is website I have..♠2 sharkey: E may have to duck lead from N snorris: the only problem is north might move 6 to 6 nt marlowepi: it is usually my partners who pass out cindy: have you been drinking marshall ? idblu: thats a live possibility marlowepi: since about the age of 18, but not tonight wilkinsona: this can go off it seems idblu: about 1 being passed idblu: it prob shld go down irwinbo: a spade may beat it wilkinsona: if the defence set up a spade before the club is knocked out idblu: need the ♠ return tho bg: 4s 3nt both ok just need double hook inspades cindy: hi all fabsayc: something like that werge: will he make 6 ♣? geller: Furuta may pass but will probably bid 6nt ralfwil: The Dutch team have to tighten up the leak ahollan1: and Fred -- as a Canadian -- home of Kokish -- DBL would be BLASHPHEMY idblu: I think E hand evaluates to 11+ with the doubleton ♠ and ♣ honors well placed mcarroll: Hi Jim ovncylmz: guney 1 yi gordu mu kenan sence? eccone: cem iˆ dˆ…stˆ… eccone: biraz sorup sorusturp pas demesi lazˆ‰ m eccone: 6 demelerini istiyposa :) MolvaM: ˆ¶zgˆ…r 5♣ derse... ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) MolvaM: demedi xenya: looks like best lead..♠Q snorris: thats auto... fabsayc: i would try to buy for 2 caitlin: ooppps athene: same after 1 - 1♠; 2 - 2 sharkey: wud bid 2 with E hand - too weak for ¨ © © © 2 bids I think? shevek: this might make but I have my doubts.... athene: i think it might be pushing things a bit far to open 1nt with it but it’s not outrageous chessmaste: China on Nelson! vugraphzhq: Lead out of turn is accepted josj: not a good omen, Mark :) vugraphzhq: N leads ♠k sengulerz: takˆ‰m sayˆ‰sˆ‰ 8 e dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nce Ege Palas’a geˆ§ilecek tez: 3 eger lar gosteriyorsa 6 oynarlar..eger 2.negatif ise oynarlar phantoma: iyi defansa epey hasar verirdi 2 da vugraphzhn : Fallenius asked Morath if he showed count or attitude.. 2 ralfwil: but it is important to play ♠ from the hand before any other suit snorris: how can they not bid game here? Walddk4: Mercifully undoubled wilkinsona: can cash a few hearts first if they want werge: North should have bid 4 ♣ - not East... sybarra: its just sort of pesky that ♠’s 3/1 but does not matter here at the end of the day b_eymen: 2♣ ya transfer olsa gerek nafiz: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams_ event.php?event=172&stage=368 sonuˆ§larla ilgili adres /link/url b_eymen: 110 ovncylmz : diger masada kritik 4 ♠ boardu oynaniyor ve olacak gibi ovncylmz: ve oldu:) akgun: 4s ye geldiler ama cok sancˆ‰lˆ‰ oldu:) eccone: 3 nt ˆ§ok kabak akgun: 1nt nin f1 olmasi ilginc vugraphzkg: evet gˆ¶rdˆ… iki tarafta alert etti eccone: woow vugraphzkg: guney halen icini dokemmemiˆ gibi :) MolvaM: artˆ‰k sorumlu bora oldu :) vugraphzkg: dusunuyor eccone: ˆ§ok sert mustafaozk: . sengulerz: biz de geˆ§meyi umuyoruz haliyle (in ˆ allah) ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ ¨ yakop: ama buranˆ‰n problemi alt taraf kalker tez: ama 4 te kalirlar vahaboglu: ˆ rfan tedbir aldˆ‰, belki lerdir © diye :) tez: belkide ♠ cide rua var MolvaM: ankara briˆ§ kulˆ…bˆ…nde popˆ…ler bir soru: "ortaˆ ˆ‰n kˆ¶r dedi elinde kˆ¶r as var ne ˆ§ˆ‰karsˆ‰n?" tez: dese nasil sorardi keycardlari acaba?5 ile mi 5 nt ile mi?cevaplari tersmi duz mu? marlowepi : specs entitled to a partial refund when a 1-level contract is played..♠4 wilkinsona: this my be -1, but ok with spades the other way marlowepi: hi cindy sybarra: hello cindy, welcome thommos: On lead and continuation 3 s and 2♠s athene: yes, with east’s actual hand, he would just raise hearts athene: but i mean those auctions are what west had in mind when he rejected the 1 opener yo_yo: 10 tricks looks very difficult to me sharkey: Think you could push to 2 NT after 2 if you opened the hand 1 Will Walddk4: China has 5 IMPs more than shown on the scoreboard. They won an appeal athene: there’s certainly a lot of work to do here MolvaM: her maˆ§ 16 board sˆ…rˆ…yor eccone: 1 nt denileek ellerle ne yapˆ‰lor? eccone: 4♠ -1 ovncylmz: oo kuzey guneyin sistemine baktim da ovncylmz: cidden enteresan seyler var ovncylmz: 1nt: 5+ vugraphzkg: eymen senin iˆ§in soracaˆ ˆ‰m oyundan sonra:) ovncylmz: 1 : dengeli eccone: kˆ¶r J assagˆ‰da 3 olsa bile batˆ‰yor eccone: 7 demeli gˆ…ney eccone: fit var abi idblu: same def in the OR..♠T wilkinsona: club loses the tempo idblu: I would rather play the K than a ♣ marlowepi: as it happens, but i think the real issue is how W expects to get in enough times. maybe lead a high one to indicate that you are just trying to get PD off possible later endplay, ... marlowepi: then E would not be so afraid that W has a stiff spoade irwinbo: if i played a club, i would play the 6 wilkinsona: we see the hands of course marlowepi: leading a heart stakes everything on © ¨ © © © © © © © © - 40 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) position of heart ace marlowepi: club is worth considering but must lead a higher one ralfwil: looks like a lead is best for the defence geller: In the qfinal Japan open was losing 36-0 to China (same 4 members as now) before recovering for an easy win ralfwil: a ♠ lead for me geller: "tighten up the leak", "plug the dikes"..... Let’s not go there. :-) idblu: true...bid your 5carders othered1: I woudn’t criticize taking invitational action on east’s hand, I just wouldn’t do it. xenya: but the ♣s are so favourable for declarer that he will have no trouble making it i think xenya: hello Jim ovncylmz: 11-19puan riyilikci: selam snorris: wrong black suit.. 4 sharkey: more ♣ panja: 2♠ rebid, holding three Aces..and Jack in partner’s suit..is on the conservative side..I dont know what else was available for South though cindy: yes luckily neither have the hand to dbl Walddk4: But as the cards lie declarer may get out for 1 down snorris: this is awful bidding wilkinsona : North does not want to play in diamonds it seems snorris: thinks s has 5 and 4 ralfwil: Now they have missed the best contract. I cannot see how they will make this without a favourable lead snorris: no wilkinsona: seems harder for East to lead hearts though thommos: hi cindy caitlin: didnt expect that finesse athene: now a diamond i think yo_yo: now to count 10 tricks...hmm yo_yo: spade? athene: you want to set up some diamond ruffs, with the possibility of throwing ♠3 on a club later on, maybe athene: west in the other room thought it was a 1nt opener as well athene: this must be the norm these days MolvaM: asˆ‰ girerse ve dikkatli oynarsa yapabilir MolvaM: seyretmesi gˆ…zel 1 el olacak MolvaM: bora’nˆ‰n teknik becerisini izleyebilmek aˆ§ˆ‰sˆ‰ndan MolvaM : cem altan atak kˆ‰smˆ‰nˆ‰ iyi © © © - 41 - ¨ halletti eccone: :) MolvaM: iˆ in kˆ¶tˆ…sˆ… bu deklarasyona bˆ…yˆ …k ihtimalle trefl ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lacaktˆ‰ eccone: yapma ihtimali ˆ§ok dˆ…sˆ…k MolvaM: dolayˆ‰sˆ‰ ile trefl rua cem altan da olabilr vugraphzkg : ataklar hakkˆ‰nda soru sordu kuzey doguya MolvaM: yani bora ataˆ ˆ‰ ele ˆ§ekebilir ve anˆ ‰nda batabilir MolvaM : bu tˆ…r sorulardan pek birˆ ey ˆ¶ˆ renilmiyor. tecrˆ…beyle sabit MolvaM: ataklar nasˆ‰l? cevap: normal MolvaM: mersi eccone: :) vugraphzkg: :) eccone: kendimle mini rˆ¶portaj gibi oldu MolvaM: :) eccone: pasam as koyulsa bile batˆ‰cagˆ‰na inanˆ‰ˆ‰yorum MolvaM: trefl asˆ‰ girdikten sonra en iyi seˆ§ enek kˆ¶r ekspasˆ‰ eccone: evet ama oda yetmiyo gibi MolvaM: evet tabii oyunu yapmak iˆ§in karolarˆ ‰ da adam etmek gerek ki ˆ§ok zor bir iˆ arigun: A kup ve ♠ lere giderse de zor phantoma: karo durumundan downgrade etti Salvo snorris: that was a grave mistake.. T wilkinsona: safe club exit.. snorris: not playing ♠ othered1: I guess it’s a "mixed raise"? cindy: still -7 marlowepi: W’s chickens now come home to roost. he got what he asked for geller: The other semi is Oz vs. China ladies. fahir: iyi yayˆ‰nlar iyi seyirler:) b_eymen: zor batardˆ‰ vulkan: 2.bordda aˆ§ˆ‰k odada Zorlu kˆ¶rle baˆ ladˆ‰ ve bir trefi Ruaya deos ederek tam yaptˆ ‰ eccone: merak iˆ§indeyim vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 yakop: yani tebeˆ ir riyilikci: Doˆ an-ˆ engˆ…ler 2/1 rebid hariˆ§ Zon forsing, 2 18-19 dengeli sˆ‰ˆ§ramalˆ‰ 2 seviyesinde ˆ…ste konuˆ malar orta kuvvette oynuyolar. Bˆ…yˆ…k apel dˆ…z sayˆ‰ , 1M- © © © © ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) 2M= diˆ er majˆ¶r+trefl ... riyilikci: sistemin diˆ er bazˆ‰ noktalarˆ‰ tez: 4 eger ♠ ler gosteriyorsa buna 4 demek.. ♠ i tuttum elim super anlamina geliyor nezihk: ortak karo ˆ§ˆ‰kmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰na gˆ¶re ˆ ikan olmalˆ‰ deˆ il mi? vahaboglu: evet vahaboglu: bence texas transfer gibi dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nd ˆ…, ama South African Texas mˆ‰ˆ werge: Because they have seen too many bad opening bids...!.. Q ralfwil: ASnd the beginning of this was the first 1 ¨ © © © snorris: reverse dummy maybe ralfwil: ?????? snorris: well this will surely not win ralfwil: I think NS will not tell anyone about this board yo_yo: so we will never know Hanlon’s cunning plan unfortunately idblu: 7 losers opposite an opening bid ovncylmz: 3 bence de nezihk: ˆ imdi yaptˆ‰, pikleri ˆ§ekip piki kuzeye verince kontratˆ‰ yapˆ‰yor vahaboglu: 1NT tam oluyor MolvaM: karoya trefl atmaya ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ madˆ‰ riyilikci: 4 bord sonunda valentino-ˆ BB Beyaz 60 (bu devre) MolvaM: ufuk ortakta muhtemelen 5li kˆ¶r olduˆ unu biliyor riyilikci: son durum 9-8 riyilikci: pardon 8-9 tez: anlasmak gerekli yani sharkey: nice.. 7 snorris: sneaky.. werge: Best way to avoid the overtrick, seems to be to lead the ♣ 9... ahollan1: that’s where i was going Fred -- was East too good for 2 or not -- i think very close -especially since ♣ location only presumptive sybarra2: spots work well for declarer xenya: oh yes, and s, too, are nice ovncylmz: iki As var eccone: 2 NT 2 li kˆ¶r yok gibi olmaz mˆ‰ yusufb: ikili turnuva eli gibi duruyo MolvaM: tayfun 4lˆ… kˆ¶r gˆ¶sterdi mi? tokay1975: 2numara 3dia dblli oynaniyo kuzeyden MolvaM: eˆ er 4lˆ… kˆ¶r gˆ¶stermiˆ se koz damˆ ‰nˆ‰ sormaya pek gerek yoktu wilkinsona: but tough guess.. K ralfwil: perfect!! sybarra: this could get messy © © © © © mcarroll: It took 6 rounds of bidding in OPen to get to the same contract MolvaM: 10 grup var ve her grupta 8 er takˆ‰m var b_eymen: pik partaj yada j♠ tek e hep oluyodu yakop: yani delik deˆ ik yakop: muhendis abiler barajˆ‰ buraya yaptˆ‰rˆ ‰yplar ucuz diye yakop: sabah ta zemin yuku kaldˆ‰ramayˆ‰nca su aoldugu gibi yer altˆ‰na yakop: kabahat kimde riyilikci: diˆ er maˆ§larda bu devrenin skorlarˆ‰n ˆ‰ gˆ¶rmek iˆ§in riyilikci: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams _round.php?round=1409 snorris: :).. 3 wilkinsona: I like the 3 heart call.. why let th oppo bid spades thommos: the Club lead is normal ralfwil: Most of players will lead a ♣, Yes thommos: Still some work for Declarer - now and has to find the endplay werge: Sorry - in my coffee I see 9 tricks... ralfwil: no a lead and you have 9 tricks ralfwil: Are you a soothsayer Hans? thommos: a ♣ also lead in the Open room werge: I also like 6 for sure geller: The official score still hasn’t been updated http://www.jcbl.or.jp/game/nec/necfest09/necj.html othered1: 2 then double isn’t bad at all for a description of east, if you can accept making a limit bid and bidding again. idblu: presumptive but odds on they fit with pard’ s ♣ or were over the overcaller arigun: K uygun yerde 3nt yapilabiliyor vugraphzkg: konvansyon kartlarˆ‰ bu linkte var her takˆ‰mˆ‰n eccone: Q A eccone: SANIRIM Sˆ LE YAPIYOR aruf: slm arkadaˆ lar akgun: slm ovncylmz: konvansiyon kartlarina baktigimda artifisyel oynayan takimlar ust turlara kalirlarsa enteresan maclar izleyebiliriz:) eccone: selam ovncylmz: slm faruk tez: super bir 6 ..ama cakayla batiyor riyilikci: Zorlu - Assael 2/1 2’li trefl 4lˆ… karo,2 multi, 2 flannery 2♠ ♠+minˆ¶r, kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k apel oynuyorlar snorris: take ♣ and then .. 6 thommos: This will now make 11 © © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © ¨ ©© - 42 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) idblu: usually worth a try idblu: 14 losers = game MolvaM: yani herkes grubunda 7 maˆ§ yapacak ve ilk 3e giren takˆ‰mlar knockout aˆ amasˆ‰na kalacak eccone: en iyisini yaptˆ‰ :) bg: interesting play decision go allout with club split or ruff a dia and settle for six..♣3 mcarroll: Yes 3 2♠ and 2♣, while becaus they split 4-4 only loses 4 s MolvaM: bence bora en makul oyunu oynadˆ‰ eccone: 4 den sonra dogu sorabilirdi yakop: tabi bunu briˆ§e uyarlayacagˆ‰z vugraphzhn: and it showed attitude.. 3 Walddk4: Misguessed spades. Now at least 2 down cindy: didnt clear that hurdle snorris: reverse dummy and a sqezze ? snorris: squezze snorris: no snorris: only 12 ralfwil: will not do, but in 6 it had worker with a reverse dummy snorris: yes athene: now declarer knows the ♠K is right yo_yo: difficult to lead out of turn with screens yo_yo: presumably they have screens? eccone: 1 NT DENˆ LECEK ELLERLE DBL Dˆ YOLAR aruf: dogu oynarsa ♣ atagˆ‰na A alˆ‰p kˆ¶re hemen R atar yapar eccone: 2 A ayrˆ‰ konu tabi arigun : defans icin ♠ baslangici, sonrasinda boslanirsa ♣ devami kontrati zorlayabilir ancak dagilim dekleranin lehine.. J ovncylmz: skorlar yavas yavas girilmeye basladi ovncylmz: bu sene cok hizli bir sekilde bilgilere ulasabilmemiz guzel:) ovncylmz: :) ovncylmz: o nasil oluyor? sengulerz: bilgi verirken bu ele pek bakamadˆ‰ m.. kˆ¶tˆ… koz daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰mˆ‰na ˆ§atmˆ‰ˆ G koksoy: 15 nolu boardda yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran takˆ ‰mˆ‰na potansiyel swing var MolvaM: beklendiˆ i gibi 1. bord zabunoˆ luna yaradˆ‰ tez: rakip 3 nt oynuyor..elinde as ikili ♠ var ne atak edersin pasam:) sybarra: if you look at NEC teams and players, you will see many international stars are in this tourney .. K wilkinsona: well we can see this will not make © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ - 43 - looking at the cards, but Hanlon will be trying to make it eccone: baska bi ˆ§ˆ¶zˆ…m yok eccone: :) ovncylmz: 1nt oynamiyorlardir bence ovncylmz: 1nt forsing tum eller ovncylmz: 2c/2d oynamaya olabilir belki ovncylmz: 2h de keser sorusu mesela:) akgun: karo V 3 lu olsa olabilirdi oyun eccone: bizde rahatladˆ‰k oda.. 2 ralfwil: worked.. just witn a lead.. A ralfwil: after 1nt there can be a problem if partner not has a suit (not bidden) athene: the defence could never cash the spade then play a club through athene: a very delicate hand, trying to set up winners everywhere and avoid 4 losers along the way athene : declarer has to draw two rounds of trumps to enjoy a club trick athene: and that means only one diamond ruff athene: he must be hoping for one diamond ruff, one pitch on the ♠Q and one on the ♣K eccone: en kˆ¶tˆ… koz damˆ‰ olmadan oynarlard ˆ‰ :) nezihk: alˆ‰p trefl oynarsa yaptˆ‰rˆ‰r, MolvaM: ♠a MolvaM: bildim mi? tez: merci:) akgun: yok yinede olmuyor tez: hidayet abiden primi kaptin:) MolvaM: bu elde 7nt oluyor ama karo dam ve pik dam olduˆ u iˆ§in oluyor. bunlarˆ‰n birisi olmasa 7 olurken 7nt batabilirdi vugraphzkg: 4’lˆ… gˆ¶stermemiˆ © ¨ © © ¨ © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 3 c 3 5 © © E E this/total IMPs Quantum 107 Primabridge 5 63 3 140 -1 50 5 4 ♠ A Q10 6 5 2 7 5 4 5 10 9 7 4 ♣A74 ♠8 7 N ♠K J 9 76 A Q J10 4 3 W E KQJ4 83 S ♣ Q10 9 3 2 ♣K 5 ♠4 3 8 6 K982 8 A652 8 ♣J86 8 120 W: Andonov W N: Nanev Open S: Mihov N E 1♠ X p 2 p 3 p E: Popov © © 2♣ 3 p ¨ ª4,8,A,9 §4,K,6,3 ¨2,Q,7,8 ©6,5,J,K ©A,2,, #1 S:: #3 N:: #5 S:: #7 W:: #9 E:: spade in dummy vugraphb1: I am very surprized by Andonov’s pass... this auction promises 16 +HCP or equivalent lestergold: i suppose iot wasdnt obvious that north needed to continue spades and retain the ace of clubs as an entry for effecting the promotion Walddk3 : Remember that Europe changes to daylight saving (’summer time’) tonight. Times on our vugraph schedule web page will change automatically when that happens, so it’s 1 hour off at ... Walddk3: the moment. Not to worry about Walddk3: Automatically if you live in Europe that is lestergold: prima may gain 5 imps here lestergold: all probs solvd.. 3.. A.. 4.. T lestergold: if south ducks then east has a losing option.. 2.. Q.. 7 roswolf: soft defence on this hand.. 8 lestergold: yep the defence lost its way.. J.. 9..♠J.. 5.. 6 ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ S p p p §A,5,8,2 ¨3,A,4,T ¨J,9,ªJ,¨5 ¨6,K,ª2,©3 #2 N:: #4 E:: #6 W:: #8 S:: roswolf: this is the sort of board where a fair amount of imps change hands when one side gets too high..1♠ vugraphb1: 3NT is possible here lestergold: im trying to work out why 3h went off on the surface tthere appears to be a lsoer in each suit.. lestergold: sureloy a simple 2h overcall unless their system doesnt permit it..p..2♣..p..2 ..p..3 roswolf : west shouldnt advance any further imo..p..3 ..p vugraphb1: and trump promotion lestergold: well obviously the trump promotion needs ot be found to defeat this contract..p..p..♠ 4..♠8..♠A..♠9..♣A lestergold: now can surely make..♣5..♣8..♣2.. ♣4..♣K..♣6..♣3 lestergold: providing east does not try and ruff a ¨ © © ¨ - 44 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 3 c 3 5 © © this/total IMPs Primabridge 5 63 Quantum 107 3 140 -1 50 E E 5 4 ♠ A Q10 6 5 2 7 5 4 5 10 9 7 4 ♣A74 ♠8 7 N ♠K J 9 76 A Q J10 4 3 W E KQJ4 83 S ♣ Q10 9 3 2 ♣K 5 ♠4 3 8 6 K982 8 A652 8 ♣J86 8 120 W: V.Aronov W N: S.Skorchev Closed E: J.Stefanov S: B.Popov N E S 1♠ 2 p X! p 2♠ p 3 p p © © p 3♣ p ª3,7,Q,K #2 E::¨3,A,4,T ª4,8,A,9 #4 N::ª2,J,©9,§2 §8,3,A,5 #6 N::ªT,©Q,§6,9 ¨8,2,J,7 #8 W::©6,5,T,K ¨5,Q,9, sybarra: thx Geoffrey, and thx to our terrific operator ..©5..©J..©K..¨6..¨K..♠2..©3..©A.. ©2 #1 S:: #3 S:: #5 S:: #7 E:: #9 S:: frankaus: will EW stay out of game here? wilkinsona: well done by NS, converting the good score in OR ralfwil: and now also ♠K on side! marlowepi: can’t the hearts wait? ralfwil : hake your trick otherwise it will disappear ralfwil: 7 with ♠A instead of KQ caitlin: 7 at other table werge: CR or OR yo_yo: bad luck there to the oz team athene: a very interesting hand for sure idblu: any carryover in this match ? MolvaM: oldukˆ§a sakin bordlar geliyor ovncylmz: 4 ye 4nt ile as sordu © ¨ © - 45 - © ovncylmz: 5 de durabilecekler mi acaba? ovncylmz: 5korde durdular b_eymen: koz damˆ‰ yok mecburen ovncylmz: 2♣ i esnek oynamak bazen cok guzel elleri kacirmaya neden oluyor b_eymen: 2♣ 2nt bunlar naturel sistemin eksiklikleri ovncylmz: oyuncular 2♣ acan ortaklarinin elinde loveye dayali el oldugunu dusunup korkuyorlar b_eymen: en tehlikelisi 2 nt acan eller akgun: 1d 5+d 11-19 vulkan: bu jakoby kabe eccone: bˆ¶le bi dagˆ‰lˆ‰molmaz ama denemek lazˆ‰m vugraphzkg: sonuclarˆ‰ takˆ‰m kadrolarˆ‰nˆ ‰ ve konvansiyon kartlarˆ‰nˆ‰ gormek icin bu linkten faydalabilirsiniz vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 eccone: ne derdi mesala? akgun: 2h:) eccone: :) deniz_t: 3 derdi sanki! nafiz: ) ovncylmz: eymen 3kore 4 der misn? exerdar: okay gˆ…r 4-3-3-3 oldugu iˆ§in sˆ¶ ylememiˆ olabilir minˆ¶rˆ…nˆ… riyilikci: bodrum 4 imp aldˆ‰, izmir bbb 10imp aldˆ‰ tez: iki mac seyretmis gibi oluruz..burada mac bittiginde orada macin henuz basi olur vahaboglu: 2 mu ralfwil: With a 4441 hand I always open with the highest minor (1 on 4144)..1♠ idblu: wel back Cindy othered1: another slam possible hand opposite a weak 2 MolvaM: fˆ‰rtˆ‰nadan ˆ¶nceki mi acaba? eccone: hmm aruf : 3nt ideal kontrrat gˆ¶zˆ…kˆ…yor ama masada ilginc seyler olabilir bu elde arigun: yada pass atip batar riyilikci: Goksu el aˆ§madan ˆ¶nce sˆ¶yleyelim Eren takimi Adana’dan katiliyor, daman: potential for slam here..2 daman: or 3 x Walddk2: This concludes our second official broadcast from Sweden. We are hopeful that we get many more. It’s a treat for our many spectators to see Sweden’s leading players in action. ... Walddk2: Sweden is a world class bridge nation © ¨ ¨ ¨ © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) roswolf: and another possible slam ralfwil: Thanks all. Nice to work with you. I wish arigun : bu tur seyler heran hepimizin basina you a nice sunday afternoon sybarra: I believe we talked yesterday about the club "we" are seeing with 2200+ members roswolf: why didnt south show spades as well? sybarra: quite a large contingent mariner1: guilty by proximity sharkey: yes - they earned it snorris: will n-s go to 2nt? snorris: 1 ♠-1nt, 2nt? sharkey: 15 vs 7 - dont think so... snorris: 16 sharkey: excuse me 16 snorris: 4 a splint? for me anyway petergill: Australian NS at other table: Klinger Mullamphy System Card is at http://www.ecatsbridge.com /documents/files/2008MindSportGamesBeijing/ Systems/Open/Australia/k... petergill: linger-mullamphy.pdf ... but after the last hand perhaps you don’t want to look at it? snorris: 4 in a M snorris: 5 ♣ or 4 s? ralfwil: always longest suit cindy: ty :) werge: Quiet boards this morning mpny: SA is not a grand caitlin: this one harder to get to othered1: I wonder if their suits are agreed to be very good ralfwil: after winning with ♣10 he had all 13 yo_yo: interesting that the Chinese ladies didnt try for game wygbe1: well 4h will probably make b_eymen: sanmam paˆ am b_eymen: hˆ‰zlˆ‰ca 3 nt oynayacaklar eccone: 1♣? eccone: abi bu kararlˆ‰k biˆ iy degilki ortak 6 tane biliyorum diyo max san dersin minsen demessin nezihk: oynayan As trefl koyup trefl ekspasˆ‰ yapsaydˆ‰ zaten yapabilirid arigun: yorumcumuz ismail kandemir hosgeldin panja: NS dont make 4♠ here..because of ♣ ruff....p jaapfr: but be bid? chessmaste: They are off Nelson! yo_yo: yep josj: once again N holds QJx in a vital suit, this time to beat a slam yo_yo: 19-20 i am informed ty Al yo_yo: so they might not get too high ovncylmz: 12-14 nt oynuolar ovncylmz: ve transferler ovncylmz: 4+ demek 1 MolvaM: 2nt pas pas pas? roswolf: could get murky now..p xenya: are we sure 3 is not a 2-suiter? sharkey: 1 ♠ - 1 NT - 2♣ - 2♠? snorris: then there might be a fight ralfwil: 1♠ - 1nt - 2♣ -2♠? snorris: west will bid on though petergill: Yes, 4 splinter fabsayc: mind you, my openings are sounder ¨ © © geliyor :) © ¨ ¨ ¨ than this one snorris: might be hard to reach cindy: looks like 3N this time marlowepi: there is a good case for opening 1S. 1C is clear second choice for me idblu: the same 1/2 imp? roswolf: hard now to stop ovncylmz: aksamki incelemelerime gore ciftlerin en az %60-70i multi oynuyor, ve bu multide genelde 2nt elleri de var ovncylmz: 5li majorlu ya da majorsuz ovncylmz: eglenceli eller izleyebiliriz eccone: yane pas derdimtabi herkes gibi ovncylmz: 7tane gordum onlari ben ya vallahi:) yakop: slm herkese yakop: izmir gazisi olarak :) eccone: :) yakop: guzel yorum gelmiyo valla frankaus: green so can afford to be conservative ..2♠ irwinbo: is looks right to me wilkinsona: may be tricky to defend 3N marlowepi: i dont think they will get there cindy: i dont like to distort my distribution with a full opening bid josj: they should, however, as slam is well over 75% josj: board should be a push at 6♣-1 akgun : 4. board muhtemel egale olacak 3 nt kabak ancak demek cok kolay degil eccone: hehe vahaboglu: dbl= tek renkli herhalde MolvaM: hˆ…seyin avcˆ‰oˆ lu da katˆ‰lˆ‰yor bize. o da izmir maˆ durlarˆ‰ndan. hoˆ geldin avcˆ‰ :) phantoma: hosbulduk gunaydin herkese koksoy: elde var 3.... slemle ilgili elleri sayˆ ‰yorum - 46 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) tez: sistemine uygun elin gelmesi bile bir sans:) marlowepi: in the US the green party is NOT ¨ conservative.. ! snorris: 5 on panja: I dont like E’s pass.... werge: Then 5 is lay-down, South has given the solution for palying -suit cindy: next :-) ralfwil : does anyone of you know what 2 opening means? snorris: think w has to bid it himself snorris: 2 on a nt seems to be majors wilkinsona: west likely to bid it, though missed in the other room idblu: 3rd chair allows a 4 card major opening...especially with a suit as good as this cindy: dont play in a womens event marlowepi : good principle cindy. but i don;t really see what bad can happen after 1S cindy: they will rake you across the coals for doing that sybarra: jamming the auction perhaps to no avail thommos: hard to bid 7S now sharkey: in it is - but dont think they’ll end up in 7 ahollan1: if you want to check out EW Convention Card from 2007, try [sorry, i still don’t know how to make smaller URLs] ahollan1: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents /files/ConventionCards/2007BermudaBowlShanghai /bermuda-bowl/Japan/TeramotoTakayama.pdf caitlin: they likely have another way to show weaker preempts fabsayc: might make if you just blast to slam athene: well it was an interesting bidding decision for east, facing a strong notrump - perhaps the australian’s 1NT is a point stronger than the Chinese? sharkey: In OR W didnt inquire with Stayman just blasted into 4 via transfer. Cud have missed 4-4 ♠ fit wygbe1: impossible to bid, especially after 1nt overcall b_eymen: elemelerde genelede bu tip elller b_eymen: batˆ‰nˆ‰n 1nt agresif vulkan: genellikle direk 2nt de 5li M yok, multide 5li M var nezihk: evet hele ilk iki eli seyredince ovncylmz: support dbl eccone: ozaman derdim belkii tez: gectigimiz elde 6 da ♠ atagiyla batardi saniyorum..as 4lu ile ilk 2 tur almayi reddederek © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ - 47 - ¨ ¨ yakop: maˆ dur degil paˆ am gazi:) sybarra: wonder if they had a 2 suited call ..p caitlin: at other table lead from North but did ¨ take ♠Q finesse fabsayc: now 2♠ josj: 6nt is down a lot :) yakop: kalkerli memleketlerde briˆ§ ˆ§i yetiˆ mez :) eccone : bˆ…yˆ…k ihtimal sebeb o ama 6 demek daha dogru bence riyilikci: 2 = 18-19 dengeli daman: they could have had 800 in 3 x..3♣ ralfwil: I dont know their defence bidding, but this can be a 2-suiter with ♠ and vugraphzhn: I believe there were no alert on 3D sharkey: NS may play 2/1 ralfwil: I´·m not quite sure of 4 . It looks like E has red cards and it could help them to find the split snorris: 3 ♣ idblu: pards a passed hand...you expect to get to a game? cindy: well i want to have a chance to get to game if its right sharkey: guess it proves that science not always better :) athene: i like that action athene: it’s pretty rare that you want to play in spades with west’s hand facing 1nt sharkey: Think the Chines Women use a 14-16 NT ahollan1: nothing showing on web page about carryover, but haven’t read conditions of contest MolvaM: 2 karo: 3 renk ile soruyor b_eymen: evet b_eymen: minˆ¶r elleri sorun oluyo ovncylmz: evet ama emin olun cok enteresan 2 ler gordum:) eccone: 4 ya kadar yapˆ‰labiliyor MolvaM: tolga ˆ¶zbayˆ‰n eli ile siz olsanˆ‰z 4.den birˆ ey aˆ§ar mˆ‰ydˆ‰nˆ‰z yakop: en guzeli buydu:) MolvaM: zondayken zon kaˆ§masˆ‰n yaklaˆ ˆ‰ mˆ‰ tokay1975: 14 16yami dedi 3 MolvaM: evet 14-16 othered1: I wonder how ambiguous east’s hand is in their style..p fabsayc: which made the chosen line clearly a swing line xenya: easy 4 for NS. There is a cheap save for EW but they are ublikely to find it ralfwil: had anyone of you bid 2 on E? I had ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) roswolf: this isnt josj: very well bid btw roswolf: east offering a choice eccone: ben acmazdˆ‰m vugraphzkg: acmadan once epey dusundu ama piklerin onda olmasˆ‰na guvenmiˆ olabilir eccone: ortak 5 4 minˆ¶rle 5NT demis olabilir yakop: gunaydˆ‰n fantom tez: 2 yu zayif lar acarsin hic gelmez acacak el MolvaM: 2 pik nedir? tez: zor el yusufb: kritik 3nt MolvaM : karo as pik s yanyana olduˆ u iˆ§in deklaran uˆ raˆ abilecek durumda panja: in these superfit situations it pays to bid one more.....3 wilkinsona: but, then only 9 tricks were made snorris: then 3 and .. bg: same auction as before N had a feature here none will settle in game othered1: AS the cards lie, east isn’t a favorite at all to find ♠ lead idblu: the teams that finished ahead of the team they were playing had a 1/2 imp c/o jaapfr: if 3 -3 4 yo_yo: yes josj: the quanti raise often suggests a minor josj: (or two) MolvaM: doˆ uda 3lˆ… pik araˆ tˆ‰rmasˆ‰ ovncylmz : pik kupu var, kuzey guney 4c ye cikarsa tehlikeli olabilir:) eccone: iyi konusma dadim: 5 karo demeli dogu bana gore eccone : dagˆ‰lˆ‰msal el sadece karo var demek phantoma: gnd garo kardes riyilikci: dbl= ! veya veya +♠ MolvaM: ok gazi :) yakop : kontr dan sonra goksu dagˆ‰lˆ‰m bozuktur diye duˆ unup zola ilgilenmedi eerbil: kartlar 3nt diyenler yapsˆ‰n diye hazˆ‰ rlanmˆ‰ˆ gibi MolvaM: az ˆ¶nceki de 24 puan idi. bu da MolvaM: diˆ er masada 3nt deme ihtimalleri yˆ… ksek tez: 3♣ stayman vahaboglu: 2♠= transfer to 2NT tez: 2♠ 2nt ye transfer tez: acik kartla yapilabiliyor tez: birakmasi iyi oyun su anda sharkey: 2♠ forcing?..p ¨ ¨ © © ¨ © © ¨ © sybarra: W might have found it caitlin: yes werge: Passive E/W - 5 ... othered1 : Nice lead, but declarer can pitch ¨ ¨ dummy’s third on ♣ ahollan1: but if half imp comes into play in 64 board match we’re in for a great time tonight idblu: in the 1/4’s and semis idblu: good bid 2 sybarra2: waiting for next X? idblu: might inspire S to bid more akgun: evet 3nt de duracaklar artik eccone: sorunsuz bir 2♠ akgun: karo 2, Hxx gibi dusunurse dogu guney + 2 yazabilir kandirarak deniz_t: evet +1 olur gibi gˆ¶rˆ…nˆ…yor eccone: ˆ¶le olsa adam 3 lˆ… koymaz yerden heralde :) sengulerz: sade bir deklarasyon oldu.. ♣i yere doˆ ru oynayˆ‰p 3♠ = yapar diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ… yorum kabexnuf: DB 4h yapabilir ancak, bulmak cok zor yakop: okay gur 6 d deseydi 5 tane karo gosterirdi tez: kuzey guney cifti yapay sistem oynuyor..konusmalari size garip gelebilir:) riyilikci: diˆ er maˆ§ iˆ§in http://clubs.vugraph.com /tbricfed/teams_match.php?match=10103 arigun: okanin elinden dengesiz 4lu fit yokselmek taraftariyim phantoma: S1F 2N riyilikci: 2♠=transfer to 2NT barbyh: is this conventional or a psych..p sybarra: wonder if club system? snorris: thinking about 2nt? snorris: yes wilkinsona: declarer got the clubs right to score 9 tricks OR, even after a heart lead ralfwil: When playing 1nt forcing, there always is problems with hands like S snorris: well done west wilkinsona: thought it was 3 clubs last time cindy: N was sorta fixed for a bid idblu: keycarding with a void hard to work out cindy: what could he do ? idblu: he was strapped...on a guess bg: 7 spades would make provided S cashes AK dia before 3 rd club mpny: apparently idblu: almost came into play last night against JUICE ahollan1: 3 rounds of ♣ to discard dummy’s -- © ¨ - 48 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) but great try arigun: 3♣ makul kontrat, hicbir zon’un sansi yok MolvaM: doˆ u ise 2 kˆ¶r ile 3lˆ… pik yok ama 4lˆ … kˆ¶r var dedi arigun : Batinin 2 su 3. renk, ileri dagilim soruyor eccone: 5 de istersen demek zaten eccone: ortagi cezalandˆ‰rmamak lazˆ‰m ovncylmz: neden acti ki:) akgun: As girecek basta tabik,:) ovncylmz: :) vahaboglu: 3♣=Stayman wilkinsona: once again the Chinese woman win the auction..p ralfwil: agree Tony, 2♣ was a little bit weak snorris: east knows south has 4 so didnt dear bid more thommos : this lead will be well received by declarer werge: With this lead = 3 NT yo_yo: if they play weak jump shifts it’s forcing yes ahollan1: EW are using upside-down count & attitude, so 8 = frown othered1: And, indeed, at other table south is declarer after a multi and transfer auction yo_yo: smolen in action :) athene: ♠AK and a trump to lose here vulkan: 1NT den sonra 2♣ de durmak da ˆ§ok enteresan ovncylmz: ozellikle burdur maclarindan birine denk gelirsek tum bbo’yu aydogdularin masasinda gorebiliriz b_eymen: dogunun 1 nt ye 2♣ MolvaM: batan ˆ lemden sonra biraz avansˆ‰ olduˆ unu dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ndˆ… belki eccone: kuvvetle muhtemel MolvaM: genellikle ˆ¶nde olduˆ unu dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nen oyuncular daha agresiv olma eˆ iliminde olurlar yakop: 5nt en az bir minor 4 lu demek tez: kucuk koyarak 1 batar sharkey: Yes - If 1 NT forcing 2♠ shud show a mere preference or weak ♠ raise..♠3 snorris: lead? ralfwil: -2! snorris: might get it undoubled’ panja: no point in defending against superfit..you never know what will get ruffed.. wilkinsona: however steals the contract... perhaps as south has shown hearts wilkinsona: its not really right though ¨ ¨ © © ¨ - 49 - marlowepi: 1S hardly prevents me from getting to game idblu: well they got to game... wilkinsona: may have to drop that spade Q to stand a chance.. irwinbo: they rate to go down on the lie of the cards idblu: that he won’t do idblu: maybe they play Roth-Stone? idblu: N passes 12+ hands frequently werge: They are too happy with their doublestopper in ♣ sharkey: some play it constructive I believe werge: Run to 4 mpny: 4H is making ralfwil: 3nt instead of a better 4 sharkey: S doesnt know pd has 6 mpny: I hate the dbl. the opponents are unlimited, your Spades are not that great. why should partner have a trick sharkey: cud bid 4 caitlin: same auction open room santyclz : Tinyurl for cc: http://tinyurl.com/ boohrd caitlin: Joe, we know why Roland ’hired’ you:) ahollan1: now 7 = current count [odd] santyclz: For my comedy relief? caitlin: that too fabsayc: i think heart 7 was actually spade signal yo_yo: frue will be glad to be dummy, to recover from that last one xenya: looks like the double indicated s -- good use of opponents’ transfers yo_yo: yesterday the slams I saw them bid were all making arigun: 3lu ♠ vey 4lu eccone: 2 nt 5-5 mi oldu aruf: bastan 1 ♠ e 3 ♣ tercih ederdim akgun: 5431 gibi eccone: 1 15+ imiˆ ovncylmz: dunden beri izliyoruz, turkiyede zon limitlerimiz 22-23e dusmus durumda:) vulkan: DB nin sistemsel sorunlarˆ‰ var, ya Batˆ ‰ 1nt ile baˆ lamalˆ‰ ya da Doˆ u 2ntye pas geˆ §meliydi vugraphzkg: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ teams_event.php?event=172&stage=368 vugraphzkg : tˆ…m maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰na bu linkten ulaˆ abilirsiniz eccone: bu tip konusmalar zaten bu eli tarif eder kabexnuf: dogu uyandirabilirdi riyilikci: 4 bord sonunda Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran-Zabuno © © © ¨ © ¨ © ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) ˆ lu 2-20 MolvaM: zabunoˆ lu ˆ§ok alttan aldˆ‰ ama ˆ lem bulunamadˆ‰ cindy: i think the pass is curious..♠7 snorris: still should win 8 tricks caitlin: also in 4 in open room shevek: real score is 64-29 due to an appeal aruf: ok ama 5-5 el gˆ¶zˆ…kmˆ…yor hala yakop: benim anlatmak istedigim bazen kazanmak iˆ§in ugraˆ ˆ‰rsˆ‰nˆ‰z eccone: 5 li olsa belki xfer edip ˆ¶le 4nt derdi yakop: pasrdonben okay davett etti diye yazdˆ‰ m eccone: ama bˆ¶yle oynayanlar vardˆ‰r elbette : =) eccone: 4 NT Oynanˆ‰yor aˆ§ˆ‰k odada tokay1975 : sp as sp ten sonra dia asi alan h donmesse yatirarak yapabiliyor mucize barbyh: oops..♠Q ralfwil: and 9 with a right guess in ♣ snorris: the ♣s are the key wilkinsona: once again 9 tricks pos if declare gets the clubs snorris: small from west to show ♣ panja: how does W show that he wants ♣ now? snorris: interest mcarroll: Same bidding next door irwinbo: for all of its 11 points, the north hand is only worth 1nt over 1 diamond cindy : hard to bid 7 without knowing about trump Q thommos: it is not a good 7, sybarra : at the moment, S probably just as happy to be in 6 cindy: and they dont have it even sharkey: ♠ lead ♣ shift ralfwil: Why not show this over 2♠ with 3 instead of 2nt sharkey: agree Mike - cud have been overtricks too jaapfr: in evaluating S hand it could help too wygbe1: it gave n a chance to upgrade his stiff d, if s elected to show a superaccept xenya: sure yo_yo: but it should be a flat board vugraphzhq: http://www.jcbl.or.jp/press/pdf/ 2007_sekai_3.pdf josj: ty vugraphzhq: photo of JAPAN OPEN Team at the top ovncylmz: kusadasi 2.boardda inanilmaz agresif bir biddingle 6 dedi ve batti ¨ © © © © tez: ufukta tek oldugu iccin sorun yok tokay1975: 2li olsa ne oluyoduki MolvaM: bu elde heyecan yok. uykusu gelenlere t ˆ…rk kahvesi servisi yapalˆ‰m... tokay1975: 9 lovesi var MolvaM: http://www.itusozluk.com/gorseller.php /t%FCrk+kahvesi/28926 tokay1975: ama doner heralde hu MolvaM: dˆ¶necek baˆ ka ˆ eyi yok tez: donusu yatmayi onluyor tokay1975: cl donerse iste tez: 3 3♣ 1♠ 1 =8 MolvaM: overcall’cuda nasolsa 1 as vardˆ‰r diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor tokay1975: 2nci spe 10lu koydu ozgur zaten bi anlami vardir 10lunun MolvaM: trefl pasˆ‰ tutmazsa ˆ§ok batarˆ‰m korkusu da var tez: ♠ 10 lu el tutarinin nerde oldugunu gosteriyor o.bakan in...izleyiciye bilgi MolvaM: trefl pasˆ‰ karo partajˆ‰ ve karo as uygunluˆ u ile yaparˆ‰m ˆ…midi de var :) panja: not a pause and small though..♠K ralfwil: 10 tricks after that lead and only 7 with a ♠ lead mdgraham: very aggressive double - why should a spade lead be best anyway? mpny: the C shift should still be easy mcarroll: true b_eymen: demesini hala cˆ¶zemedim eccone: naturel atak eccone: aˆ§an el yere aˆ§ˆ‰ldˆ‰ bide MolvaM: ama bu eli yapacak gibi duruyor yakop: ama bu ugurda kaybettiginiz ˆ eyler size yakop: cok pahalˆ‰ya malolabilir tez: bi arkadas var 4lu ile bile 22 actigi icin en cok zayif lar geliyor diyor tokay1975: cl pasi yaparsa simdi defansin hata yapma sansi kalmaz 3nuc diayu alir clle cˆ‰kar werge: Look at dummy,pls.. 3 idblu: ♠ to A down wilkinsona: diamonds need to be led twice from dummy so.. cindy: no it isnt MolvaM: iˆ e 22 puanlˆ‰k bir 3NT kontratˆ‰ eccone: 3♣ diyince gˆ¶zˆ…kˆ…rdˆ… eccone: hehe sengulerz: turnuva formatˆ‰ ˆ ˆ¶yle: gruplardan ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰nca knock out yani yenilen eleniyor ˆ eklinde oynanˆ‰yor yakop: sabah kalkˆ‰nca golde su bulamazssˆ‰n ˆ‰z © ¨ © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 50 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) ¨ sybarra: hmm.. A sybarra: so who leads a on this auction? barbyh: whoever is on lead sybarra: so a push wilkinsona: so the landslide continues mcarroll: the lead solves the problem of how to © play trumps b_eymen: tref partaj olsa bu dagˆ‰lˆ‰ma 5♣ yaparrdˆ‰ ovncylmz: sistemsel bir problem oldu galiba eccone: 2♠ olursa sinir bozucu bi durum yakop: bunun iˆ§in mumkun oldugunca akademik: (diger muhendisin dedigi) exerdar : diˆ er odada jr iyi baˆ lamamˆ‰ˆ a benziyor 1 zon,1 ˆ lem kaˆ§mˆ‰ˆ 15-16da riyilikci: bodrum 14- valentino 2, burdur 6- izmir bbbeyaz 10- varoˆ lu 0- zabunoˆ lu 6 4. bord sonunda durum eccone: A ortaktan 7 li gelir belki diye cekildi phantoma: karo atagina 3N yapilabilir mi acep MolvaM: salvo kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k karo devam ederek +1 i engelleyebilirdi belki cindy: thing universal heart lead.. 4 cindy: think snorris: semms like it arigun: sanirim 3. renk sonraasi 3♣ zon forcingi anlasildi, aksi takdirde dogunun pass demesi lazim minimum eli var b_eymen: gerˆ§i onauda yapamazdˆ‰ tref atagˆ ‰na b_eymen: 3nt denmesi gerekiyodu sengulerz: 82 takˆ‰m vardˆ‰.. elemelerde 32ye dˆ…ˆ tˆ… sengulerz: bu devre sonunda yenilen 16 takˆ‰m daha elenecek sengulerz: ilk 16 ya kalan takˆ‰mlar maˆ§ˆ‰n ilk devresini akˆ am son 2 devreyi yarˆ‰n sabah ve ˆ¶ˆ len oynayacaklar sengulerz: bu maˆ§ˆ‰n son devresi bu yakop: gibi davranmak lazˆ‰m tez: ♣ empasi gectigi icin 9 el alacak MolvaM: trefl 9luyu gˆ¶rˆ…nce fikir deˆ iˆ tirip dam dˆ…ˆ ˆ…rmeye oynar mˆ‰? vahaboglu: ˆ rfan empas yapar tez: yerde lar aslan agzi gibi.alacagini biran once almak lazim othered1: NS could have competed here, too, but can’t make much if EW find the ♣ ruffs.. T othered1: But opening lead there was also shevek: 64 - 29.5 actually (Oz has 0.5 carryover) from Elmer athene: now you could throw either spades or ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 51 - clubs on the diamonds b_eymen: sistemlik biˆ iy yok onu diyorum vulkan: ben 3NT erdim eccone: belki ondada 5li♠ 5li vardiye cok sˆ ‰kˆ‰stˆ‰rmamak lazˆ‰m vahaboglu: Tayfun ˆ zbeyi tanˆ‰yan ˆ§ok yakˆ ‰n biri Dbl= ya ♣ ler, ya lar, ya da Majˆ¶rler olduˆ unu bildirildi MolvaM: zonda deˆ ilken zon kaˆ§ˆ‰rmak fazla hasarlˆ‰ olmuyor. en fazla 6 imp kadar tokay1975: once dia asi cˆ‰karsaydi 3ncu dia alan defans belki bi hata olabilirdi MolvaM: trefle boˆ gelince surat asˆ‰lacak marlowepi: curious or timid. like the 60’s film "i am curious yellow"..♠4 sybarra: they may need to ’splain this one snorris: a good jack.. will it help+ snorris: ? panja: y, no need to show any interest...a look at dummy tells you it must be Clubs panja: still, I wonder why none of EW doubled.... snorris: Harada pondering snorris: seems ralfwil: Why? eccone: yane 2♣ 2 3♣ 3 gibi eccone: veya 2♣ 3 riyilikci: doˆ an iyi karar verdi, 3 NT sorunsuz, 4 kˆ¶rˆ…n idaresi daha zor nezihk: doˆ an kˆ¶r kalitesi ˆ§ok kˆ¶tˆ… diye ancak 5-4 kˆ¶r fiti varsa oynamak istedi, bence makul bir dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nce tez: 1nt oynarken 1 nt yapmaya oynuyor..3 nt deseler zorunlu hamlelerle 3 nt yapacaklardi vugraphzhn: "Take a chance with the 9..♠8 caitlin: by West ralfwil: but he found ♣K..♠A idblu: all conjecture now idblu: if he cashes a 2nd he will be happier thommos: qC next is ok idblu: but K before pitching is better technique sharkey: woman intuition may apply :) - looks like down 2 mdgraham: well, you can’t argue with that ralfwil: as I play - with a weak hand I bid 2 over 1♠ showing a 6-card suit and 2 with a stronger hand, so 3 is my bid after 2♠ sharkey: never tried.... mdgraham: it’s not worth it sharkey: lol sharkey: Agree Ralf - but you mave a a problem getting to 3NT then idblu: was a great lead...once again © ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) baylind: + 2 yapˆ‰yor artˆ‰k cindy: heh..♠9 cindy: i am curious green frankaus: i use green as NV no doubt u have worked it out snorris: then he should be in 5! thommos: or ruff club to the Q idblu: 10 looks right.. fabsayc: won’t help ovncylmz: 1nt yi cok zayif bir elle 1nt diyen bati, 2♣ ye pas gecti b_eymen: en ddogrusu wilkinsona: tries the spade hook..♠2 irwinbo: i hate 4333 hands idblu: stalling for time ... 0% play now ralfwil: plain sailing athene: but the clubs only require two pitches not three b_eymen: ne kadr zayˆ‰f b_eymen: en minumumu var zaten sengulerz: ˆ imdi yere ♣ yakop: vale karo oynamayˆ‰p baˆ ˆ‰na iˆ aldˆ ‰ ama kor bozuk degil ralfwil: a finess in ♣ for safe..♠J ovncylmz: istanbulda yasamama ragmen aydinli oldugumdan ve orada yillardir elemeleri izleme firsati buldugumdan biliyorum ki diger masadaki NS asiri agresif bir cift barbyh: hope so.. 9 cindy: well they have 24 hcp werge: But East should havr cashed his other red Ace ovncylmz: oyle bir noktadayiz ki ben 1sp-1nt-2h2nt yi de dogunun kabul edebilecegine inaniyorum:) tez: 3 nolu elde diger odada konvansiyonel bi anlasmazlik olmus..13 imp kaybedilince diger masada artik umitler kesilmistir sybarra: claim coming ..♣2 ahollan1: as advertised -- well done on both sides idblu: that certainly won’t b_eymen: atak eden oyunu acan b_eymen: ve orakta tref uzun tuppermet: diger masada da aynˆ‰ gideceˆ ini sanˆ‰yorum eccone: kˆ¶rˆ… oynayarak ♣ pasˆ‰yla 9 lˆ¶ve yapabiliyor MolvaM: ama doˆ al olarak batˆ‰rmaya ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ acak cindy: probably makes 5C but tuff to bid that..♣ 8 snorris: running home? panja: small is risky © ¨ © ¨ panja: had this been a doubled contract..on the ♣ 3 return..E might have been tempted to play a small ... bg: 1 imp to Japan sharkey: unexpected - but dont think it matters athene : just a question now of how to play trumps athene: probably A and another MolvaM: biraz zorlama bir kontrat ve batacak gibi duruyor MolvaM: zondayken zon kaˆ§ˆ‰rmak daha pahal ˆ‰ olduˆ u iˆ§in genellikle sˆ‰nˆ‰rdaki eller ile biraz daha yˆ…kselmekten ˆ§ekinmiyor oyuncular sybarra: need your guessing shoes on for 5 ♣ but sure close to it..♣3 ralfwil: A and all is over arigun: sayet batinin 3♣ i zon forcingi ise, davet eli ile ne yapmak lazim eccone: murat abi nerelerde acep yakop: herkes teknolojisini kullansˆ‰n marlowepi: i hate more hands than that. there must be at least 5000 hands i hate..♣A santyclz: In a fair world, w would ruff the 3rd ♣. nezihk: ancak trefl empasˆ‰ geˆ§ip karo Dam da kaˆ§ˆ‰nca onda da sorun yok bg: sry..♣5 thommos: A high ♣ was lead in the OR athene: or not :) athene: i was thinking Del’Monte might have been worried about a spade over-ruff now athene: but probably he trusts that if the defence had a spade ruff, they would have taken it athene: so playing for them to have misdefended is just a grosvenor coup santyclz: Simplifying the play. ovncylmz: iyimser bir yorum, "QX pik ortaktadir olur bu kagit, ya da 2nt de batar zaten" felsefesi ovncylmz: stiller cok cok agresif kabexnuf: o zaman bord 5 4♠ oynanabilir vahaboglu: Gˆ¶ksu ˆ§ok iyi karar verdi, ortaˆ ˆ‰ da 3♠ diye by-pass yapmadˆ‰ fahir: herkese merhaba tez: dumduz bir bordtan 13 verince insanin cani sikilir elbette MolvaM: selamlar fahir :) hoˆ geldin cindy: just have to find Q..♠T yo_yo : is the women’s team the finalists at Beijing? bg: should have drawn trump before second dia doesnt matter here but it could have with hearts 41 shevek: good point raised by Roland, maybe 32 ¨ © © ¨ - 52 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) bds in the semi-final not enough? MolvaM: herˆ ey yerli yerinde deniz_t: defans yapmasˆ‰ gerekeni yaˆ‰yor diyecektim bu arada aksunun R dˆ¶nˆ…ˆ ˆ…ne ufak vermesi ortaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ yanˆ‰lttˆ‰ olsa gerek:( nezihk : ˆ imdi kˆ¶r oynasaydˆ‰ geliˆ gidiˆ problemi olacaktˆ‰ sengulerz: pardon.. bi de yatˆ‰rˆ‰p 4 yapabiliyormu ˆ mpny: well now -1.. Q ralfwil: no entrance to ♠K eccone: 55 ♠ 1 2 tane olsa olabilir eccone: 3♣ yakop: briˆ§te sallamak yok tez: ♣ ile ♠ arasinda sikisacak cindy: that you have hated ?..♣6 athene: and you lose out to KQx onside MolvaM: ˆ u an izmirde 80 takˆ‰m oynuyor b_eymen: 2♣ e direkt 3♣ MolvaM: bu takˆ‰mlarˆ‰n hepsini gˆ¶rebileceˆ imizi sanmˆ‰yorum ovncylmz: 2♣ ye pas gecme luksunun olmadigini dusunuyorum ben yakop: otur demek:) vahaboglu: evet tez: sqz de diyenler var tokay1975: evet gercekten kotu olmus tez: merhaba fahir:) tokay1975: slmlar ovncylmz : kuzey ve dogu acmazsa batinin acmasina katlanicaklar:)..♣9 eccone: 140 yapˆ‰labiliyor eccone: sqz oluyo kuzey vugraphzkg: sqz diye claim yaptˆ‰ Walddk2 : Thanks all for coming, hope you enjoyed the show from Stockholm.. 8 snorris: nice tuch arigun: bence 2♣ uzerine 3. renk yapmadan 3♣ demek iyi bir fikir, neticede 5li ♠ var ama ortagi daveti kabul eden 3lu ♠ fiti olan ellerle zaten 3♠ der ve 4♠ kacmaz eccone: kˆ¶r as teklerse kˆ¶rˆ… veriyor eccone: teklemesse 170 yakop: gordunuz az onceki macta yakop: kac tane ˆ ilem denmedi yakop: iyi tercih tez: o zaman ♠ valeye dogru oynamak zorunlu( ak yu cektikten sonra) tokay1975: wd snorris: if s has 4 ♠.. 2 yo_yo: if so they know what they are doing © © © © ¨ ¨ - 53 - ¨ ahollan1: Teramoto having hard time believing partner has the perfect ♠ holdin yo_yo: Delmonte should finesse a second time so he needs to return to hand idblu: who said life was fair eccone: ama sistemleri ne bilmiyoruz tabe ovncylmz : ve isler bazen fazla iyi gittiginde guzel maclar cikarabiliyorlar riyilikci: iki el gˆ¶rˆ…rken 4♠ fena deˆ il, daha kˆ ¶tˆ… zonlar oynadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰m ˆ§ok oldu ovncylmz: board 5 2sp cok az zaten wilkinsona: can be -3 now..... J sybarra: yes guess so .. 7 athene: he is confident he can ruff a spade safely in hand for the second trump finesse ovncylmz: board 1 noldu kenan? skor gecerli mi? vugraphzkg: ˆ u an iˆ§in bi dˆ…zeltme olmadˆ‰ vugraphzkg: sanˆ‰rˆ‰m geˆ§erli olacak nezihk: batˆ‰ karoya devam etse kontratˆ‰ yapabilirdi, zira kuzey majˆ¶rlerden squiz oluyor vugraphzkg: kuzey tempo kaybederek belli etti gibi eccone: amakˆ¶rˆ… atmamasˆ‰ lazˆ‰mdˆ‰ :) xenya: thanks everyone.. 6 Walddk2: Broadcast from Norway in progress, so no time to rest sybarra: thx to all, esp. the organizers, hope we see more mdgraham: yes, the names look familiar sharkey: No entry to dummy sengulerz: leri ˆ§ekip oynayˆ‰nca alan yatˆ ‰yor othered1: now a couple of high black ruffs?.. 5 MolvaM: ama organizasyon en azˆ‰ndan her gruptaki iddialˆ‰ takˆ‰mlarˆ‰ gˆ¶stermek iˆ§in uˆ raˆ acaktˆ‰r sanˆ‰rˆ‰m vulkan: ˆ§ˆ…nkˆ… 1nt 8-11 gˆ¶sterir ovncylmz: 2♣ nin cok dogru olmadigina inanmakla beraber eccone: dogunun MolvaM: evet 140 a dˆ¶ndˆ… fahir: cesur ama etkili trefl dˆ¶nˆ…ˆ ˆ… ralfwil: nice squeeze.. T yo_yo: sun ming is a very famous name mpny: yes b_eymen: ˆ§ˆ…nkˆ… majˆ¶r demedi.. K b_eymen: heer ele 3 nt yapar yusufb: merhaba Fahir b_eymen: ben onu tartˆ‰smˆ‰yorum canˆ‰m.. 5 akgun : 3c dmesi gerekirdi Rxx koru sevdi sanirim kendi tarafindan nt icin ¨ ¨ © © ¨ © © © ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) eccone: ˆ imdide atmasˆ‰ gerekiyordu :) sengulerz: yani yatˆ‰nca 3 oluyo b_eymen: 2♣ in bi faydasˆ‰ yok onu diyorum.. ¨Q b_eymen: atak icinde uyarmˆ‰s oluyosun vugraphzkg: kuzey yatˆ‰yorsun diyerek claim yaptˆ‰ sengulerz: wd eccone: pikiˆ bˆ‰rakˆ‰p ♣ ortagˆ‰nˆ‰n oynamasˆ‰nˆ‰ beklemek daha iyi olurdu eccone: ♣ saglanˆ‰yor ama antrre yok wilkinsona: should have taken more time.... 9 idblu: guaranteeing 4 dadim: 5 !t yapabiliolar sanˆ‰rˆ‰m dadim: 5♣ ovncylmz: saka mi? eccone: ♠ kup olmassa evet ovncylmz: pik as pik kup nezihk: -1 eccone: farkeden biˆ iyde yok MolvaM: bu elkde yˆ‰lankˆ‰ranˆ‰n durumu 10 imp almak veya 5 imp vermek. athene: as soon as the 7 appears he can claim ogoksel: :) fahir : bir sonraki vugraf yayˆ‰nˆ‰mˆ‰z Antalya2009 dan olacak MolvaM: sˆ…per haber :) tokay1975 : tezcan bey bi sonraki vugraphta yorumcu olmamak icin cok calismamiz lazim ¨ © Board NS: EW: o 4♠ c 4♠ 6 this/total IMPs Quantum 107 Primabridge 63 W 5 650 W 5 650 6 4 ♠A 8 7 6 2 J76 2 6 K96 3 ♣Q J 2 ♠ K J95432 N ♠10 AQ2 K10 8 3 W E 4 AJ5 S ♣ 53 ♣AK 9 8 4 ♠Q 9 11 954 10 Q10 8 7 3 2 6 ♣10 7 6 10 650 W: Andonov W 4♠ N: Nanev Open S: Mihov N E 2♣ p p ¨ #1 N:: 6,A,2,4 E: Popov S p p ª #2 E:: T,Q,, roswolf: this again looks quietly straightforward..2 ♣! lestergold: this looks like another tailor made flattie lestergold: 2 spades to lose in the obvious 4s and thas all..p ¨ ¨ vugraphb1: 5 min break..4♠..p..p..p.. 6.. A.. ¨2..¨4..♠T..♠Q ndemirev: I never know what to expect after 2C opening. there is so little room for such a variety of hands ndemirev: meant 2♣ prec ndemirev: when it could be 5-card roswolf: indeed in the other room east opened a strong club! ndemirev: I’d rather do that on E hand ndemirev: shed point to get more control in the bidding ndemirev: i got barraged with questions: ndemirev: to answer then all ndemirev: them ndemirev: 2♣ in precision shows 11-15 points and 5+♣ - 54 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) ndemirev: when ♣ are only 5 the hand is unbalanced Board NS: EW: o 4♠ c 4♠ 6 this/total IMPs Primabridge 63 Quantum 107 W 5 650 W 5 650 6 4 ♠A 8 7 6 2 J76 2 6 K96 3 ♣Q J 2 ♠ K J95432 N ♠10 AQ2 K10 8 3 W E 4 AJ5 S ♣ 53 ♣AK 9 8 4 ♠Q 9 11 954 10 Q10 8 7 3 2 6 ♣10 7 6 10 650 W: V.Aronov W 2♠ 3♠ 4♠ § © N: S.Skorchev Closed E: J.Stefanov S: B.Popov N E S 1♣ 2♣ 3 p p p 3N p p p p ¨ ª #1 N:: Q,K,7,3 #2 E:: T,Q,K,A #3 N:: 7,,, mariner1: I was here in the 60’s however don’t remember that movie cindy: one of my partners says the 10 there is a trick card to give yourself a chance to go down cindy: would always make it if u didnt have that tricky 10 snorris: jep ralfwil: Not even trying for 9? sharkey: cud be down if ♣ AJ behand and 5-3? panja: West must play ♣8 to give the ruff, not ♣ 3 bg: good guess opps too busy signaling;)) snorris: 40-0!! wilkinsona: Im not sure I follow wests pass of 1 spade x... snorris: well.. no not enough yo_yo: well done to the ladies sharkey: difference in style - NS only got to 2 other room... mdgraham: very much so - the final pass looks rather pessimistic ¨ © ¨ - 55 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) santyclz: This is becoming embarassing xenya: even 6 would have been profitable for ¨ EW ahollan1: Fred -- i’m sure that was me idblu: I thought so xenya: still it’s hard to see S bid 4 all on his © own -- N had an opportunity to insert 3 ¨ © over 3 mcarroll: same contract in OR MolvaM: bu vugraf yayˆ‰nlarˆ‰ndaki 1 baˆ ka sorunumuz da ˆ u MolvaM: tˆ…m iyi oyuncular oynuyorlar b_eymen: ˆ§ˆ‰kmayˆ‰n diye eccone: 4 board 4♠ oynanˆ‰yormus akgun: enteresan eller gelmeye devam ediyor ovncylmz: 4 = masa icin iyi oldu:) dadim: evet gormemiˆ im eccone: 5♣ denilirse 5 denilecekti tabi eccone: evet MolvaM: maˆ§tan sonra impleri paylaˆ ˆ‰rken hatˆ‰rlatmasˆ‰ gerek takˆ‰mdakilere eccone: 3. den zayˆ‰f acˆ‰lacak bi eldi ovncylmz: :) akgun: KG 3nt yapabiliyor bu boardda eccone: sorunsuz eccone: sorunsuz boardlarˆ‰ gecssek zaman kazanˆ‰rdˆ‰k erdiolsa murat abi akgun: evet redeal pls:) vugraphzkg: :) vugraphzkg: kuzey deklerasyona baˆ ladˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in burada yardˆ‰mcˆ‰ olamayacaˆ ˆ‰m:) eccone: dogu gˆ¶rˆ…nˆ…yor burda eccone : G 1nt kuzey bu tip ellerle stayman yapmamasˆ‰ daha dogru eccone : ♠ bulunursa bile oynanmamalˆ‰ kozdan batˆ‰labilir eccone: puan cok nt batmaz vugraphzkg: kuzey zayˆ‰f nt aˆ§tˆ‰ gˆ…neyin eliyle 3nt dendi ve herkes pass eccone: sen ne yapˆ‰yosun o arada vugraphzkg: deklere doˆ udan baˆ lˆ‰yor riyilikci : Yorumcularimiz Nezih Kubaˆ§ ve Mustafa Tokay, baˆ ka baˆ arilarinin yaninda geˆ§ tiˆ imiz senenin Tˆ…rkiye Kulˆ…pler ˆ ampiyonlar ˆ‰ ve Kiˆ Dˆ¶rtlˆ… yari finalistleri yakop: bu oyuncular turkiyenin en iyi oyuncularˆ ‰ndan biriydi vahaboglu: haklˆ‰sˆ‰n ancak transfer eden de davet etmedi riyilikci: 1NT rebidi 17-19 tez: 1 08 MolvaM: doˆ uda dengeli daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰m var gene ¨ ¨ ¨ koksoy: gˆ…neyde de :) MolvaM: tebrikler mariner1: the Seniors are taking a big lead early here..1♣!..16+p, ANY snorris: yes cindy: 3N could be a struggle ralfwil: 40-0 after 6 boards! unbelieveable! irwinbo: the problem with i diamond is that when partner bids one spade you have to bid 2nt idblu: 1N n/s a good spot vugraphzhq: Micry fends kisses by E werge: Ah - some fun - bad ♠-break sharkey: sure looks like it’s worth a raise in my book caitlin: China has its stride MolvaM: dolayˆ‰sˆ‰ ile yorumcu bulmamˆ‰z zor olacak MolvaM: vugraf yorumcusu akgun: 1d 1h overcall gelirmi riyilikci: Kazˆ‰l- Aygen iˆ§in iyi duruˆ ovncylmz: anadolu bricinde ufak bir hastalik daha, 4lu fiti forsing nt icine saklamak:) dadim: slm exerdar: gˆ…zel bi 6h var bakalˆ‰m nolacak yakop: ilginˆ§ bord yakop: nerde bitecek bakalˆ‰mˆ… MolvaM: gˆ…naydˆ‰nlar :) arigun : ♠ haric evet :) renkler arasinda adet olarak en fazla 1 fark var vahaboglu: ˆ¶nceki el diˆ er odada belki 4♠ e gelinip -500 ile iyi baraj olabilir tokay1975: 3nt oynarlarsa muthis MolvaM: iˆ te klasik bir vugra eli tez : el goren bulbulu olmamak icin elimden geleni yapacagim:) MolvaM: 6 aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ nasˆ‰l? sharkey: 1 = 1+ ?..2♣ snorris: 4 vs 4♠ wilkinsona: ...maybe its the 4 card overcalls irwinbo: ca’t be xenya: anyone know what 2♣ is? yakop: 6 hayal gibi:) exerdar: 1nt aˆ§ˆ‰ldˆ‰kdan sonra bulmak zor olur MolvaM: 5-3 kˆ¶r fitini bulmak zorlaˆ tˆ‰ ˆ imdi tez: 3nt diyecek ibo ralfwil: but no use of that with only singleton ♠ ..2♠ snorris: redouble might mean something special cindy: this cant be right idblu: THATS a weak NT bg: 1430 may lose an imp should make 7 © ¨ © ¨ - 56 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) ahollan1: i once lost a 7 board set to Meckwell athene: south has a good hand for a non-forcing by over 60 -- everyone on their team won a christmas tree bg: somwe kind of part score here- as Joey Silver would say--next othered1: north might bid some NT sybarra: will never guess the caitlin: I will be very surprised if Mori bids 2N; it is his least favourite bid ralfwil: a bad split in and a ♣ lead will make it difficult in 4 yo_yo: dbl! idblu : yea...but living in Arizona slants your views on life :) othered1: game isn’t particularly goo dhere idblu: 13 tricks...can they bid it santyclz: 7 would appear to be pretty good, 7nt less so, but making. jaapfr: y but after 1nt which N believes in game yo_yo: thanks hiroaki roswolf: another slam zone hand arigun: buradan cikarilacak sonuc, yorumcular= kotu oyuncular :) vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 b_eymen: 3 fazla tutucu oldu vugraphzkg: takˆ‰m kadrolarˆ‰ konvansyon kartlarˆ‰nˆ‰ bu linkten bulabilirsiniz eccone: evet nezihk: malesef bu sene erken elendik kabexnuf: selam irfan yakop: ama onlarda barajˆ‰ kalker uzerine inˆ a etmek istemiyolar yakop: ucuz olsun demiyolar eccone: 2NT veya neyse riyilikci: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams _round.php?round=1408 yakop: bulsan da yapmak zor olur:) eccone: selamlar arigun: guney tam dengeli 1-1 :) tez: salvo acmisti milli takim secmelerinde tam bu elle MolvaM : bu elde 6 kˆ¶re trefl ˆ§akasˆ‰ ile batmak ˆ§ok acˆ‰ olur othered1: Compare this hand with the last east opened -- that’s a pretty good range in a limited opening system...3 ! snorris: like an honor in ♠ fabsayc: a lot of matches have had wild swings of momentum 2 bid but not many people play that outside Poland eccone: dbl riyilikci: skorlar iˆ§in vahaboglu: 1 aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰rsa overcall olur MolvaM: aˆ§ˆ‰k odada ingilizce yorumcu eksiˆ i varmˆ‰ˆ . ben mˆ…sadenizi rica edeyim marlowepi: roses are saying "we’ve senior big lead and are not scared"..p cindy: harhar sybarra : ok folks, I am going to leave you, breakfast meeting are not my thing, but have an early one tomorrow sharkey: and almost opening hand? ralfwil: but we didn´·t see what EW discarded on © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ - 57 - ¨ ¨ ♠ © ¨ ralfwil: But W had made 5 after the 4 bid! snorris: better pass.. snorris: south idblu: yes...I am surprised he didn’t make 7 mdgraham: miss a vulnerable game. Gain 12 imps. Too easy sybarra: there you go fabsayc: lol caitlin: but he had no other bid:) othered1: That, invitational, feels about what it is worth. But maybe 2 forces to far shevek: maybe showing 0-7 :) athene: sorry WEST has a good hand... wygbe1: tough bid for s here wygbe1: i think 3h would be my choice MolvaM: bu 3 karo aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ biraz insiyatifli oldu b_eymen: ya transfer aruf: dogu batˆ‰ en son 2 ♣ deklaresi yapacak gibi gˆ¶zˆ…kˆ…yor ama sonrasˆ‰ ilginˆ§ akgun: kuzey pas akgun: guney cakar herhalde eccone: evet eccone: pas pas rdb olur heralde tokay1975: abi solemeseydin keske ben gizliyodum:)))))) nezihk: onu bildiˆ im iˆ§in sˆ¶yleyim bari dedim arigun: slam sorunsuz bakalim soylenebilecekmi nezihk: hehe tokay1975: 2dia en az davet eli gosterdi sanirim kalmalari cok zor artik nezihk: 3 karo 3 H den sonra 6 ya ˆ§ok kolay ulaˆ acaklar kabexnuf: 2sp tez: 5♣ e gelecekler muhtemelen tez: 5 super kontrat ¨ ¨ ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) tez: okay ¨ larini gosteremeyecegi icin 5¨ yu bulmak zor bu zon durumunda vahaboglu: ˆ ngilizcesi kuvvetli olanlar! tez: hoscakal molvam tez: korkarsa dan dbl der tez: ve vardi yine tez: 7/8 yil once..gercekten ciddi soyluyorum yusufb: 6 dicekler ama koz cˆ‰kˆ‰lmasa bile olmuyo MolvaM: ok tez inandˆ‰k sana :) MolvaM: koz ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lsa aˆ rˆ‰sˆ‰z ve acˆ‰s ˆ‰z batacak hiˆ§ olmazsa tokay1975: belki terse gitmek lazim taktik acidan icerdekiler gerideki takˆ‰m nasil olsa 6 der diye 6 dicektir 4te kalˆ p mucize olmasini ve 6nˆ‰n batmasini beklemekde bi taktik tez: onda damida vardi galiba yusufb: 6 acˆ‰sˆ‰ baya rastladˆ‰m ben en son Hakan goksu istanbul elemelerinde actˆ‰ sizin maˆ§tˆ‰ galiba Tez tez: 2000 yilindaymis..seyircilerden onay geldi vugraphzkg: oyuncu dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor MolvaM: esasen bu elde sonunda 6 e gelmek ile baˆ tan 6 aˆ§mak arasˆ‰nda pek fark olmayacak sanˆ‰rˆ‰m tez: evet yusuf yusufb: biz 3 oynamˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰k:) tez: herkes yapacagi kadarini oynuyor:) MolvaM: ozaman 2♠ e bˆ‰rakˆ‰p batˆ‰rsˆ‰ nlar bari. 100 alˆ‰rlar :) tokay1975: hahaha yusufb: ama biz bile +3 yaptˆ‰k o kadar kabaktˆ ‰:) mariner1: only part scores here..p snorris: 2 ♠ a fit bid it seems ralfwil: One of my principles. Dont tell too mych in a competitive bidding ralfwil: much.... wilkinsona: suppose so.. ralfwil: rather strange to land in only 2 in OR josj: this time it seems to make vugraphzhq: you’re welcome yo_yo : all happy and smiling except for the ladies captain :) eccone: sˆ…per bi 6 MolvaM: sˆ…per mi gerˆ§ekten? eccone: aˆ§ˆ‰k elde ˆ¶le paˆ am eccone: :) MolvaM: kˆ¶r pasˆ‰ geˆ§tiˆ i iˆ§in? MolvaM: :) yakop: 6 cl der heralde eccone: batˆ‰ der ¨ © © ¨ © © © ¨ eccone: dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…p dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…p :) yakop: zafer 7 iiˆ§in formul arˆ‰yo bence 6 yˆ‰ dusunmuyodur yakop: bilmem anlatabildim mi eccone: gˆ…zel hikaye :) tez: ben 3 nt derdim MolvaM: nasˆ‰l olsa koca izmir de karoyu kesen birisi bulunur herhalde dedi. tez: 3nt keserim var yada yok ..gucum var demek bizde cindy: g’night shirley..3♠ barbyh: bye shirl sybarra: gl with all the rest, g’night all sharkey: claimed before we cud Ralf ralfwil: only to help partner wilkinsona: has to get the spades right here snorris: arrgg.. idblu: :) werge: 2♣ should include a weak minor-2 xenya: there have been several suggestions from the kibitzers as to the meaning of the 2♣ bid werge: D = do not lead ? idblu: yes...7 once they find the fit Q falling makes 4 but not an mcarroll: the obvious play eccone: ♣ bulurlar akgun: 2c guneye kadar geri gelir akgun: undo? aruf: normal sartlarda ˆ¶yle olmasˆ‰ gerek ama masada her sey farklˆ‰ oluyor psikoloji hava vs... eccone: buda ilginc bi declere oldu eccone: K araya girince falan filan riyilikci: doˆ unun eli ile oyun aˆ§mayan ˆ§ikar mi bilmiyorum ama oyun aˆ§iˆ i KG iˆ§in ˆ lem sˆ ¶ylemeyi bu el daha garantili hale getiriyor yakop: umarˆ‰m size bi fikir vermiˆ imdir eccone: 4♣ denilebilir ˆ¶zgˆ…rˆ…n eliyle eccone: kalˆ‰rlar yine ama eccone: 4 az oldu tokay1975: bulent 1nt acti butun onorlerini garde etti simdi odullenicek 3nt yaparak tez: 3 nt kutsal kontrat..kolay kolay gecilmez minor varken tez: 2 pas pas dbl pas 2 olacak bence ralfwil: In this position I play D showing a 4-card suit and 1♠ shows a 5-card suit. Do youplay like that?..p irwinbo: can’t caitlin: he often says...now watch them run hearts at me or whatever othered1: I wonder if south could have bid a non- ¨ © ¨ © © ¨ © - 58 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) invitational 3♣? ovncylmz: takimlar oldukca agresif:) eccone: 1♣ trefler yada herhangi 15+ eccone: gerci bu zondurumunda hicbiˆ iyde cˆ‰ kmaya blir vugraphzkg: aman tanrˆ‰m eccone: 4 cok az oldu tyavuz: sˆ…per dediˆ in %20 civarˆ‰nda MolvaM: ufuk hala orta sahada top dolaˆ tˆ‰rˆ‰ yor snorris: another advers sacrifice..3N fabsayc: the 4 bid is a strong clue wilkinsona: may well do so snorris: the woes will never end snorris: I do thommos: what do you all play the pass from South as? sharkey: 2♣ checkback xenya: all very different idblu: try Canada.... santyclz: Mirror distribution. ahollan1: i had skewed perspective in other states too fabsayc: now 4 , ace asking? ahollan1: 1N=BAL 8+ game force yo_yo: does he know something..... roswolf: this could be murder vugraphzkg: no:) eccone: hava iyiymis izmirde faruk akgun: eller ilginc deklereler supriz eccone: psikolojiyi bilmem ama eccone: :) aruf: evet kardeˆ im ben kˆ‰sa kollu ile dolaˆ ˆ‰ yorum vugraphzkg: faruk bozuyo havayˆ‰ ama eccone: oh oh MolvaM: kˆ¶r ataˆ nˆ‰ ele ˆ§eker miydiniz? ovncylmz: kenan takimlarin su anki siralamalari var mi elimizde:) MolvaM: uzman sorusuna cevap verin bakalˆ‰m vugraphzkg: ben taner internette olamasˆ‰ lazˆ ‰m tokay1975: rua spini sevmiyor MolvaM: sonra 3 karo olmayacak mˆ‰ peki? snorris: 5 only -1..p snorris: but no ralfwil: often difficult in reversed vulnerable panja: neither the 1♣ opening not this pass of 4 ♠ by W bid are easy to understand...I mean the ratinale behind either npcjpn: 2NT is a puppet to 3♣, then 3NT shows 3♠ and 4 . © ¨ ¨ © © - 59 - sybarra2: or cue all the way idblu: 3♠ Q idblu: cue josj: 2 is safe roswolf: sensible run out MolvaM: gene de makul kontrata gelindi b_eymen: 3 4 daha iyi bi dec nezihk: kapalˆ‰ odada sorunmu var caba sadece ¨ ¨ © 1 nolu borddan skor aldˆ‰k MolvaM: eskiden bu gibi durumlarda seyirciler " ama onlar lebensohl oynuyorlar" filan gibi uyarˆ ‰lar gelirdi. ˆ imdi kimseden ses ˆ§ˆ‰kmˆ‰yor. herkesin uykusu gelmiˆ sanˆ‰rˆ‰m ogoksel: muhtemelen ufak ♣ oynanacak tez: rakibin iyi fiti varken 2 ye oynatmak istemez oyuncular genellikle..ama salvo tutucudur.pas diyebilir mariner1: 4 could be the contract which has tough chances..4♠ marlowepi: deepfinesse makes 4H i bet snorris: 3nt is difficult snorris: with lead sybarra: that was first push bd sybarra: maybe righting the ship for Israel bg: not sure what those bids meant but contact is right ahollan1: even if NS play 2 way Stayman [part of original Precision] I like 2♣ rather than 2 because East will never make a lead directing DBL b_eymen: 4 mantˆ‰klˆ‰ b_eymen: ortagˆ‰n ilk rengide AJXX b_eymen: aj9x b_eymen: :) vugraphzkg: :) aruf: kenan sen kagˆ‰tlarˆ‰ takip et kardeˆ im eccone: pas gfmi? eccone: 3 nt denir heralde tokay1975: dia iyi olmali ve h vale bulunmali tez: %20 benim superim turancim:) koksoy: son 2 board zabunoglu lehine potansiyel swingler MolvaM: 6 dese yapar mˆ‰ydˆ‰? MolvaM: kim burada karo oynar? tez : ♠ kq akqxxxx akjx idi hakanin 6 actigi el..karsida fiti ve j9xx ♠ bulunca el kabakti tokay1975 : ben 5h dicek diye dusunmustum 3spten sonra tez: diger masa 4 oynuyor bu eli yusufb: 6 oynarken en kotusude koz atak gelmez sevinirsin ama ♣ partaj degil yˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰rsˆ‰n:) © ¨ ¨ © © © © ¨ © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) wilkinsona: easy now..p ralfwil: important to play E for the right A with a ¨ lead, but now.... ¨ snorris: well west doesnt know if east has s sharkey: agree with ♠ lead? ralfwil: no! othered1: agree on ♠ play, but it’s not guaranteed snorris: can he slip this home+ snorris: ? werge: Yes wilkinsona: yes, most would bid 1 spade by west cindy: at the 1 level i usually play no preference cindy: only at 1 level though thommos: above one level as penalty? cindy: yes thommos: 3NT likely to make 11 sharkey: 2 invitational values I assume athene: this looks to be down only one? yo_yo: Wang has a good hand for 2♠ dont you © think? othered1: even 3♠ needs some racing luck ahollan1: if 1N=14-16, i think hand might be too good, if 15-17, just right jaapfr: x lead:) wygbe1: was one spade like a forcing nt? xenya: this will probably fail jaapfr: with this super lead akgun: pas pas:) ovncylmz: bunu bugun 10. kere falan soyluyorum ama takimlar eleme turlari oldugundan asiri agresif eccone: mecburen paˆ am tez: 7♣ te sorun yok..oynamasi kolay bulmasi zor tez: 5 derse simdi tez: kor disinda keykart sorsa MolvaM: rahmi bey diˆ er maˆ§tan haber varmˆ‰ tyavuz : ama gˆ¶rˆ…ntˆ… olarak ˆ ˆ‰k bir kontrat bu konuda sana hak veriyorum:) riyilikci: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams _match.php?match=10100 yakop: slm arkadaˆ lar tokay1975: selam MolvaM: burada sˆ…per kontratˆ‰n tanˆ‰mˆ‰ nda anlaˆ mak gerek MolvaM: batmasˆ‰ gerekirken olan kontrata mˆ ‰ sˆ…per denir? riyilikci: kapalˆ‰dan sadece 4 bord geldi tokay1975: anlastilar abi %20 ve ustu tez: 5♣ i yaptirmaktan korkup 5 dersin bicok kere.. larda fit oldugunu ogrensek kimse 5♣ e pas demez okayin eliyle ¨ © ¨ ¨ MolvaM: ok. kaza raporu tutmamˆ‰za ve alkol muayenesine gerek yok yani tez: guneyin eliyle 1♠ acar mˆ‰ydˆ‰nˆ‰z? mariner1: NS in Open are in 2 only..p cindy: the are fluctuating between conservative and aggressive marlowepi: i wish they would let ME do that when i lead idblu: tuff dummy to lead into cindy : nothing good to do here it seems another spade ? idblu: whtas his is his marlowepi: D unlikely to cost cindy: i would like to play it penalty at 1 level too but cant get any of my partners to play it that way :) athene: for two down, the defence have to get a diamond ruff AND stop the spade ruff ahollan1: another good lead othered1: How would you play this, needing lots of good things to happen? MolvaM: dolayˆ‰sˆ‰ ile gˆ…ney ders almadˆ‰. ileride gene aˆ§ar bu elle 3 b_eymen: 3♠ 4 MolvaM: ta ki zon kaˆ§ˆ‰rana kadar arigun: 5 major ataklara batiyor, 5! in sansi yok, iyi yerde durdu kocaeli takimi b_eymen: HERSEY UYGUN arigun: bence kimsenin aklina gelmez :) MolvaM: doˆ ru yerde durdular her iki takˆ‰ma da tebrikler cindy: this could be a push also..p npcjpn: it is a kind of puppet stayman, in case opener has 5♠. thommos: I do play it as penalties ahollan1: and extremely unlucky mirroring it is Joe yo_yo: Liu is out for blood vulkan: benim baˆ lantˆ‰da sorun var galiba yazdˆ‰klarˆ‰m takriben 15 dkka sonra dˆ…ˆ ˆ …yo b_eymen: bendede oluyor hocam b_eymen: bak yine oldu b_eymen: ♠ eccone: ya aˆ ˆ agˆ‰sˆ‰ ˆ…ste cakˆ‰yor vugraphzkg: 1 sonraki macta seri baslarˆ‰nˆ‰ yazarˆ‰m vugrapha ovncylmz: diger masa da 6♠ oynuyor kor sigan olan boardu:) eccone: aslˆ‰nda karo sayˆ‰sˆ‰yla ilgili tez: en kolay yol bu saniyorum.. koksoy: 5 tane karo eger kˆ¶r oynanˆ‰rsa ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ - 60 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) kacˆ‰lˆ‰yor tez: gercekten tebrik etmek lazim marlowepi: "congressive"--good description..♣Q snorris: 3 times maby? snorris: maybe ralfwil: only if EW not take their 2 and 3♠ tricks wilkinsona: well defence has 5 on top now cindy: well then you could be my partner idblu: obviously they have never played rubber bridge idblu: ’s have been set ovncylmz: bugun izledigimiz 21-22-23 3ntleri 7.falan oldu ovncylmz: guneyden 4♠ ye 6 geldi cindy: yes !!..♣K cindy: excellent wilkinsona: spade does not look unreasonable really sharkey: always good in the post-mortem to lead pd’s suit - unless you have a very good reason to do otherwise mpny: that was a very good stop yo_yo: do we like that opening bid? ralfwil: 2 is better than 2♠ but how stop there? mdgraham: this may make, if West can hold the trump losers to two sharkey: yes - only 8 tricks with best defence I think xenya: to quote a kibitzer: their CC say "w2 in or GF one-suiter or 20-21 bal" ahollan1: for spectators -- mirroring is when both hands of partnerhip have exact same distribution eccone: bu 23 ler normal bence eccone: ♣ i KQ olsa el acar kabexnuf: bu bord cok agresif degil bencede. eccone: karo 5 tane vermiyosa MolvaM: hala kˆ¶r devamˆ‰na soru iˆ areti var riyilikci: ortak kˆ¶rˆ…n tek mi sorusu? :) yakop: cok konservatif davrandˆ‰ eldeki kuˆ daldaki kuˆ :) eccone: woow eccone: sˆ…per baraj tez: cevaplarinida onceden calismak gerekiyor panja: down now..♣7 cindy: E wishes he could have S lead again bg: double dummy low cub to 9 low spade to queen this could be made cindy: poor Levin always in a potential endplay situation bg: drop spade king great play if he finds it cindy: he is thinking about it © © ¨ © ¨ - 61 - sybarra: best if in tempo sybarra: or closer tempo than this cindy: cant use the phone excuse in live bridge wilkinsona: defence need to find a diamond ruff it seems werge: WHICH trump will North lead? santyclz: On a trump lead, I’d pull, take the ♣ finesse eliminate and exit in s. As I said, my pd declares better than I. santyclz: If the get to 6♠s, I hope e doesn’t x. ovncylmz: upps eccone: sorun yok ˆ¶vˆ…nc :) kabexnuf: :) nezihk: gˆ…neyin 3 D deklerasyonu iˆ i kolaylaˆ tˆ‰racaktˆ‰ tokay1975: h cˆ‰ksa batiyo ama dogru hemen olucakti 3nt hakkaten iyi baraj eccone: 4♣ tez: ben kesin giderdim 6 ya tokay1975: 2cl 2dia 3h 4he pas demis nafiz abi cl as garanti veriyo dia kayˆ‰plari kapaniyosada bulmiyim demis tokay1975: riske girmemis 5 seviyesinin bile tez: ortakta biraz mal oldugunu biliyor ufuk koc ralfwil: they missed their 4-4 fit in ♠ and found the best contract..♣3 ahollan1: so no discards or ruffs available for extra tricks idblu: :) santyclz: (they) roswolf: this is now a messy auction josj: slam seems far away b_eymen: yu bˆ‰rakmassa -1 eccone: baban elini gˆ¶stermesse sorun yok ovncylmz: haha:) vahaboglu: tehlikeli vahaboglu: her halˆ…karda oluyor vahaboglu: ancak alˆ‰nˆ‰r, dˆ¶nˆ…lˆ… rse vahaboglu: dekleran ♠ partajˆ‰na giderse vahaboglu: batar tez: cok bilen az oynayan yorumcu arkadaslar:) cevap lutfen snorris: yes..♠T snorris: so now is the time.. bg: safer to play it as no preference frequency of having right cards for a penalty is too low chessmaste: North was lucky his side had an escape from 2♣ redoubled akgun: simdi kucuk kormu oynayacak? eccone: elde kalmak icin 10♠ deniyebilirdi eccone: ama baska bi planˆ‰ var galiba © ¨ ¨ © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) akgun: eelde kalmasi iyi olmus aslinda eccone: en iyi ♠ oynamasˆ‰ lazˆ‰m eccone: Q♠ aruf: baya uzun sˆ…recek bu el :) pike dvm mant ˆ‰klˆ‰ gˆ¶zˆ…kˆ…yor akgun: 3s 2h 2c 2d yapmayi becerebilirse olacak 3nt eccone: baska secenek yok galiba eccone: :) eccone: 2 aldˆ‰rmazlar eccone: 3♠ te MolvaM: trefl ˆ§akasˆ‰ arˆ‰yor. makul ama nafile riyilikci: aˆ§ik oda 15-16 ile basladi bu yˆ…zden sadece 1 nolu bord skorlandi vahaboglu: As tez: bu elden sonra okay ve gokhan saldiracak..biliyorlarki biraz geri dustuler sayi olarak snorris: the weakness of the strong ♣ systems is the 1 bid..♠Q wilkinsona: may be tricky to cash these spades though ralfwil: If I open with 1 ny next bid would be 2 © ¨ ¨ ♣ athene: whether the ¨9 can be read depends on what sort of count signals the Chinese ladies play athene: if they play upside down, it has to be a singleton shevek: note Ish played the 8 not the 6 idblu: needs ♣ hook now josj: the X was optimistic, too eccone: ˆ¶hm eccone: ˆ§akˆ‰p Q en iyi tempo paˆ am tez: alkis riyilikci: Orhan’dan iyi bir deklerasyon tez: 7 nt ideal oyun ama o kadar kusur .. idblu: the expert duck..♠K yo_yo: suicidal more like it b_eymen: acaba gˆ¶rdˆ…klerim dogrumu eccone: en iyi oyun dam ♠ vugraphzkg: kuzey 1.den 1nt aˆ§tˆ‰ arkadaˆ lar marlowepi: club to the eight to make 4..♠A mariner1: aggresserrvative? bg: how many open S with 1 club? How is pard supposed to know what is going on? othered1: you might be able to strip the hand of back suits then Ax and hope something really good happens fabsayc: north knows enough now eccone: vahaboglu: pik MolvaM: izmir ˆ¶ne geˆ§mek ˆ…zere ˆ imdi de © ogoksel: karoyu saˆ liyacak tokay1975: kaat bi acaip hale geldi as cekip sp verirlerse cl passiz yapamiyor tokay1975: ad di,a cekip ogoksel: kontratˆ‰n olup olmayacaˆ ˆ‰ ˆ ˆ… pheli hale geldi sanˆ‰rˆ‰m snorris: when it doesnt promise the suit.. 7 ralfwil: now it´·s important to play sharkey: In this case I think E has length in as for sure short in ♣ - thus I thin lead stands out snorris: agree but might be 11-13 flat and no d snorris: suit idblu: your line looks right Joe yakop: bu el bircan kazandˆ‰ yakop: agresiflik bu iˆ te yakop: karo alˆ‰nˆ‰p h donulurse piki bˆ‰ rakmak sefaty snorris: still 10 tricks fabsayc: no finesse now athene: yes, Del’Monte does his best to confuse the issue shevek: but that didn’t help athene: but to no avail athene: when you play upside down count you like your singletons to be large eccone: ♠ eccone: ♣ partajsa ki ˆ§ok zor karo ˆ§akarak yap ˆ‰labiir tokay1975: guney 4cli dogal sandi uyumsuzluktan cekindi fiti anlayamadi kuzeyde dia cuebidi duymayˆ‰nca pas dedi vahaboglu: ben rakip 3NT ye gelsin de DBL atayˆ‰m diye beklerdim ¨ © © ¨ © © - 62 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 2♠ c 3♠ 7 7 W W this/total IMPs Primabridge 63 Quantum 107 -1 100 -1 100 ♠ J10 6 5 J10 6 4 Q86 ♣3 2 ♠K 9 8 7 N ♠A Q 4 753 AK Q8 W E K10 7 J532 S ♣Q 9 4 ♣10 7 ♠32 92 A94 ♣ AK J 8 6 5 110 W: V.Aronov W 5 5 5 4 7 7 8 8 9 6 N: S.Skorchev Closed E: J.Stefanov S: B.Popov N E S 2♣ 2 p 3♣ p X! XX p p p ¨ p p 3♠ §2,7,K,4 §3,T,A,9 ¨4,K,6,5 ªA,3,7,5 ¨9,7,Q,2 ¨A,T,8,3 ª9,J,Q,2 ª4,,, #1 N:: #3 N:: #5 S:: #7 E:: #2 S:: #4 S:: #6 W:: #8 E:: marlowepi: should be a snore at 4H mariner1: 4 can make here snorris: doesnt seem so ralfwil: I don´·t pass on N ralfwil: and still -1!!!!! snorris: strange play there ralfwil: through the whole play werge: 7 NT - to avoid any ruffs... wilkinsona: sorry, yes well done othered1: west likely won’t get to open 1♣ here cindy: he could have endplayed S for down 1 ralfwil: Harada has seen 2 and 2 tricks and © © ¨ © that partner only has 3 ♣, so how can he break the contract without 3 ♠ tricks? werge: 3 NT with 11 + 11 marlowepi: i say life is too short for anything bg: i need typing lessons thommos : you masterpoints may have more - 63 - regulation than your banks :) cindy: thats so true !!! idblu: MP’s are so inflated anyways ralfwil: aha 6♠X! thommos: they got to high and needed spades breaking with K onside mdgraham: board 20 was an 11-point opener as well ;) sharkey: i surmise odds against based on your comment? mpny: It is just style, not right or wrong. I would not open, but very few would not yo_yo: true Mike but it had a few more things going for it sharkey: true - think 11 pts ok with shape and suit ahollan1: stemming the tide --- a push fabsayc: and i am betting at least one pair using it in this event athene: declarer could have drawn trumps and gone only one down but reasonably enough he tried to make ahollan1: if declarer held 3 -- it is right, if only 2 then 4 and ruff-sluff doesn’t help declarer -well done santyclz: Yes. If you know what to do, letting partner who may not choose is a mistake. santyclz: Makes on 12.5% of the 4-1 breaks too (I think) so maybe better than 70%. idblu: re :) crashed :( santyclz: Re Furd. arigun: guney 1 acsa kuzeyin cok iyi bir eli var, slame tesebbus ederse butun 5 ler batiyor MolvaM: deklaran kozlarˆ‰ biraz ters oynadˆ‰ diyelim kˆ‰saca ovncylmz: OOO, salvador-nafiz abiler de 3ntyi kacirdilar ovncylmz: 3c oynuyorlar onlar da vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 b_eymen: o elin naturel decleresi bence 1 dbl pas 2♣ pas 2 pas 2 nt pas 3nt vugraphzkg: takˆ‰m kadrolarˆ‰ ve konvansyon kartlarˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linke bakabilirsiniz ayrˆ‰ca turnuvanˆ‰n detaylˆ‰ programˆ‰nˆ‰ ˆ¶ˆ renebilirsiniz ovncylmz: diyarbakir takimi 14-18 1nt acislari yapiyor, son derece tehlikeli tum masa acisindan:) vugraphzkg: gˆ…zel bir oyundu aruf: normal bi 4 oyunu araya sˆ‰kˆ‰smˆ‰ˆ © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) eccone: tebriklerimizi ilet :) vugraphzkg: ok ovncylmz: wd EW kabexnuf: belki 6 cozulmedi ovncylmz: tek-cift apel oynuyorlar eccone: ♣ Q ondayken baska caresi yok ovncylmz: 6yi cozemedi zannedersem oysa ¨ ¨ teklerin hepsi gozuktu ovncylmz: 17-7 oldu ovncylmz: karo dam atagi gelince eccone: Q cˆ‰kˆ‰lmˆ‰s sengulerz: 4 ve 5. eller Akˆ…zˆ…m takˆ‰mˆ‰ aˆ§ˆ‰sˆ‰ndan ˆ…mit verici eccone: bu zon durumunda ortak 4 cakˆ‰nca enteresan bi el yane kˆ¶r kˆ‰sa diye 6♣ denilebilrdi yakop: bu tip maclarda boyle davranmak normal karanlˆ‰ga kursun sˆ‰kmak iyi oyuncularˆ‰n pek tarzˆ‰ degildir nezihk: ataˆ ˆ‰ deˆ iˆ tireceksin yakop: avcˆ‰nˆ‰n kjararˆ‰ cok iyi nezihk: fakat bu elde iyi ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰ riyilikci: sonuˆ§lar http://clubs.vugraph.com/ tbricfed/teams_round.php?round=1409 tez: ortadogu ve asyanin en hizli el acanlarindan biridir hakan goksu yakop: safety miˆ :) vahaboglu: :) MolvaM: bakalˆ‰m voidwood konvansiyonunu ˆ §alˆ‰ˆ mˆ‰ˆ lar mˆ‰ MolvaM: turan yavuz hoˆ geldin :) tyavuz: selam herkese tokay1975: evet hoca dogru ben eksik analiz yapmisim o pozisyonda tokay1975: 2el gormusum tez: geride takim kanli ellerin gelmesini ister tez: gerideki MolvaM : ben ufuˆ un yerinde olsam 11 imp kazandˆ‰k derdim tez : el veriyorsun ve mutlu oluyorsun slem olmuyormus diye..ne garip bir oyun bu bric ralfwil: As in the previous session I can recommend Kesleys books about defence.....2♣! snorris: a lucky position in ♣s eccone: dogu ilk kursunu sˆ‰kmadˆ‰ysa sorun olmazdˆ‰ bence :) ama ˆ… 2li olabilirdi gayet tabii MolvaM: briˆ§te saldˆ‰ran pek iflah olmaz diye biliyorum ben ama... sharkey: Multi 2 in OR..p sharkey: Appears EW in OR didnt have a defence prepared for Multi 2 opening ralfwil: 3nt on W is OK ¨ © © ¨ ¨ sharkey: yes thommos: bank stocks, no longer inflated cindy: a beer costs 1/2 masterpoint caitlin: 4 doubled in open room athene: 1♣ on any balanced hand outside 1nt © range othered1 : That’s what I meant about north having count ahollan1: to really learn the lesson about preventing partner from going wrong. Hugh Kelsey’s " Killing Defense at Bridge" idblu: is E worth a call at this vul? santyclz: No, if s 4-1 needs 3-3 s so only 6%. ovncylmz: kritik bir el:) ovncylmz: 2sp acabilir KG eccone: 1 nt mi? sengulerz: ˆ§abuk tarafˆ‰ndan bir 4♠ olacak.. d ˆ…z bir board daha eccone: 1 dbl exerdar: kuvvetli aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰ˆ da dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nebilir belki eccone: 2♣ eccone: evet mantˆ‰klˆ‰ yakop: 2nt? eccone: selam :) MolvaM: ˆ u an yarˆ‰ final maˆ§ˆ‰nˆ‰n ilk devresini izliyoruz MolvaM: yarˆ‰ final toplam 3 devreden oluˆ uyor (toplam 48 bord) tez : burasi baya kalabalik oldu..bana ihtiyac yok..ben derse devam ediyorum.kolay gelsin MolvaM: kazanan takˆ‰mlar yarˆ‰n 64 bordluk final maˆ§ˆ‰ yapacaklar tez: tyavuz hosgeldin:) riyilikci: teˆ ekkˆ…rler Tezcan MolvaM: yoksa masa tenisinde miydi o vahaboglu: atak deklereye devam ediyor ˆ zmir Bˆ B MolvaM: tabi ki. deklarasyon kˆ‰smˆ‰ bricin ˆ u an en ˆ¶nemli kˆ‰smˆ‰. herkes iyi kˆ¶tˆ… defans yapabiliyor veya yer oyunu oynayabiliyor ogoksel: N 1NT araya girer ise heyecanlˆ‰ bir el olabilir panja : this should not be a difficult hand to bid...S shows his long suit, North asks Aces sometime...and that is all that is needed to bid 7..2 !..relay snorris: dont think they will bid it yo_yo: 11 point balanced then ahollan1 : actually Joey Silver may still be playing it [with John Carruthers] eccone: zayˆ‰fta kuvvetlide acar bu el ¨ © © ¨ - 64 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) MolvaM: ˆ anssˆ‰z bir atak olmuˆ . phantoma: gunun ilk 7sine merhaba diyelim tyavuz: iyi dersler tez:) MolvaM: burada da grandˆ lem potansiyeli var wilkinsona: multi seems popular in the East..p snorris: 2 for me snorris: but how to find it+ snorris: ? panja: now...the self preempting effect of the big © 2Nt bid comes into picture snorris: south will try to show s and slammish hand athene: double = 4+♠ shevek: dbl shows 5♠ I think xenya: at last an excellenet slam jaapfr: last 10 boards of nec 2009? jaapfr: re b_eymen: bu durumda elden oynanacaksa koz en iisi kˆ…cˆ…k oynamak arigun: demekki yorucu=kotu oyuncu teoremi dogruymus, degil 5 4 bile batabiliyormus :) ovncylmz: 4lu pik uzun minor:) vugraphzkg: sˆ¶yledim eymen:) eccone: :) vugraphzkg: olmayacakmˆ‰ˆ eccone: 3♣ ne? tokay1975: kuzeyde bunlar varken guneyin kuvvetli elinde dia uebidi olmamasi nerdeyse imkansiz ama yinede pas demesine yanlˆ‰s diyemem nezihk: vavvvvvvvvv 7 hem de alasˆ‰ yakop : riske edemez hiˆ§ bir oyuncu bu zon durumunda eccone: hehhe yakop: 5li rengi oˆ‰lan nt eccone: 4 ataktan oluyor galiba tez: burdur 20 nolu bordu 6 karo yaptˆ‰ baylind: gitme tez kal kritik eller geliyor MolvaM: sana her zaman ihtiyacvˆ‰mˆ‰z var tezcan :) tez: 6nt oynuyor diger masa sorunsuz..bu masada 7 derler bence..ve yaparlar yusufb: sayˆ‰ potansiyeli eller geliyo ama egale oluyo baˆ ka maˆ§larda gecen elden cok imp cˆ‰ kardˆ‰ 6 -1 egale olsa anlarˆ‰mda 4 egale baya entresan oldu othered1: looks very normal so far..3♣!..6+!C, 11-13p othered1: But not optimal wilkinsona: looks as though 6 diamonds unlucky for EW here snorris: if n had the q of ♠ instead of q of this ¨ © © © ¨ - 65 - was the right defence sharkey: Precision here? yo_yo: does that dbl show ♠? wygbe1: 3 spades might gum up the works xenya: 6 and 6♣ both make b_eymen: iki renkli ovncylmz: ki orda 12-14 acilmis 1nt galiba akgun: 1h 11-19 dengeli 4441 akgun: 1s 6+ any akgun: 2c 15-17 dengeli eccone: evet tokay1975: konussa ne diyecek oda problem 4he tokay1975: 4cl tez: zorlu delikanli adamdir 4♣ e kacar snorris: on 2 ..p ralfwil: For me - 2♠ on S snorris: I mean instead of double sharkey: W’s Dbl may get EW to 4 perhaps ralfwil: The reason is that if P has 3 or even 4 is OK sharkey: s’s 2 Pass or Correct? werge: After South passed his opening hand... panja: they may not have enough space to explore and rule out 3Nt, then ask for Aces ralfwil: It´·s rather easy if S can find the 4-card support marlowepi: S just barely has a response....maybe marlowepi: 10,5 losers..... wilkinsona: that doesnt have the appearance of an optimal OR result though cindy : im wondering when we can just send money to the acbl and they will credit our accounts with masterpoints sybarra: not with 7 idblu: a good call by Hackett xenya: however 4 looks makeable too -- not as easy as 4♠ of course athene: oh right - ok sharkey: 1♠ = 3♠ wygbe1: if south had shot out 4h, they would surely be in slam - but after this start it could be difficult to reach xenya: no, Japp -- there will be another 16-board session i think jaapfr: ic tx yo_yo: i think i would go straight to 3NT too b_eymen: 5-5 akgun: 2s 2nt ye xfer ovncylmz: 2c ye transfer diye biliyorum eccone: mantˆ‰klˆ‰ eccone: pas veya 3 nt eccone: 6-9 mu yane © ¨ © © © © © ¨ ¨ © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) eccone: pas mantˆ‰klˆ‰ eccone: 6-9 sa eccone: ortaga 1 2 puan kalˆ‰yo vugraphzkg: evet 6 9 riyilikci: bodrum 22- valentino 2- burdur 6- izmir bbb 24- varoˆ lu zabunoˆ lu 12-6 6 bord sonunda fahir: bˆ…yˆ…kˆ ehir bu bordda 5 kˆ¶rde kalmˆ ‰ˆ lar aˆ§ˆ‰k odada... MolvaM: ama iˆ in varsa sonra gel istersen koksoy: biraz dinlenelim boardu... 3nt flat MolvaM: 7 da kˆ¶r ruayˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ ˆ…rme imkan ˆ‰ var. o bakˆ‰mdan daha iyi bir grandˆ lem cindy: thats an ugly 1N ..p bg : every one likes pre-empts suit quality or points or shape -doesnt seem to matter idblu: MP’s are now attendance points fabsayc: that is who i meant fabsayc: after this is ducked, club queen next othered1 : Don’t knock 2-way Stayman (my preferred method). caitlin: night all:) enjoy othered1: bigtrain points out that more imps were available for making 3♣ (my choice, too.) caitlin: early morning appt. ovncylmz: dun KG yaklasik 6-7 tane 800 1100 aldilar 1nt acisindan sonra, ama tayfun ozbeyin zayif nt diye her elle araya girmeyecegini dusunmek lazim:) MolvaM: ˆ leme tek parˆ§ayˆ‰ ˆ§ˆ‰karak elinizi belli etmeyin diyenler vardˆ‰r. onu dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nmˆ …ˆ ve sekanstan ˆ§ˆ‰kayˆ‰m demiˆ ama.... eccone: en iyi ihtimalle k olsa bile 3 nt olmuyor yakop : dogunun elinde 2 tane kor olsa kontr demeyen var mˆ‰ yakop: koz kucuk oldugu iˆ§in manevra alanˆ‰ kalmadˆ‰ bu elde eccone: ben derdim ama ortak bide 3.den acˆ‰ yo oda var eccone: as sorunca otomatik diyolar abi yakop: bakalˆ‰m ne olacak tokay1975 : ben 4spe kesinlikle katˆ‰lmˆ‰ yorum tercihim 5sp tokay1975: riskide var ama bnm trcihim 4sp cok daha az loveli basit elde olabilir yakop: ortak zor durumda kontr demiˆ olabilir tokay1975: mumkun hepsi yakop: bizim barajˆ‰ unutma:) eccone: 4♠ ye konusmayan ortaga karsˆ‰ biˆ iy olurmu ki? yakop: kalkere denk gelirsin:) tokay1975 : 4he dbl tam negatif cok daha az ¨ ¨ kaatlada 4sp dicekti yakop: ˆ imdi:) tez: ilk 3 bord 15 verip bir bordda geri aldˆ‰lar yakop: hemen heyecanlanma fantom iˆ ler karˆ‰ ˆ ˆ‰k yakop: 4h demesi lazˆ‰m MolvaM: bu 2nt aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda 5li renk var mˆ‰? MolvaM : ama 4 ele bakˆ‰nca 7 ♣ ve 7Nt de oluyor tabii tez: 7 derlerde mu sanzatumu belli degil.ikiside oluyor mariner1: in Open W rebid 2N here and E bid 3 .. ! cindy: matter of style marlowepi: possibly system difference. i like 2S with 100 honors and no aces & suit-oriented hand snorris: seems so snorris: 4 maybe orck? panja: looks like 4 is interpreted as transfer by N snorris: then 4 is accept snorris: and 4 ♠ now a rkcb panja: South will try a precipitate jump to 6 perhaps.. ralfwil: 4nt will now solve all problems panja : seems like this is a misunderstanding issue.. wilkinsona: well declarer may duck this snorris: trying... cindy: but hate to pass too mpny: looks to be sybarra: gn Caitlin:) shevek: minisplinter sharkey: Kibs advise 1♠ = 0-3 ♠ athene: a splinter in diamonds won’t excite west shevek: I don’t like it much with stiff ace... ahollan1: 3 is balanced raise othered1: nice for them to let east get her suit in without risk (3♠, limit, would be a different story) chessmaste: In the other room North was given a chance to make 2NT - but 3NT looks hard on a heart lead MolvaM: doˆ udaki oyuncuya bu gˆ…zel el ile 2 batacaksˆ‰n deseydik inanmazdˆ‰ b_eymen: ˆ¶hm vugraphzkg: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ teams_event.php?event=172&stage=368 sonuˆ§ larla ilgili adres /link/url eccone: ama yerin rengini ˆ§ˆ‰kmˆ‰ˆ eccone: 4♠ ataktan olucak eccone: :) eccone: 4♠ yukardan hic batmˆ‰yo ¨ ¨¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ © - 66 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) tez: 3nt demek icin cok istekli olursun rakip zayif acis yapinca tez : ama kontr yersen delikanli gibi hemen kacacaksin yakop: zaferin kontr demesi lazˆ‰m atak iˆ§in tokay1975: 2cle kacmadi MolvaM: tayfun gerilimi artˆ‰rdˆ‰ tokay1975: 2cli belki kontrsuz atlatirdi yusufb: 7nt daha iyi cunki empas baska secenek yok 7 de expas secenegi var:) marlowepi: even if i played 2S showed 6 i would still bid 2S..r bg: should have endplayed south he had already showed five dia 4 hearts and two spades he club finesse was a waste of time snorris: the didnt rise to those hights sharkey: 11 pts balanced you know Kath - = 3 NT down:) yo_yo: yes roswolf: yup i would too but maybe be unlucky this time akgun: 3c stm olucak eccone: gˆ…ney 2 yu uyandˆ‰rabilir eccone: dbl mantˆ‰klˆ‰ olurdu vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 vugraphzkg: takˆ‰m kadrolarˆ‰ ve konvansyon kartlarˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yardˆ‰m alabilirsiniz eccone: Nafiz abi hoˆ geldiniz eccone: 5nt simdi tokay1975 : 4spe konusmayan elle 6 olur el acarsin riskide var 5 e batabiliriz az bi ihtimal yakop: ama goruˆ net degil razˆ‰ olmak zorundas ˆ‰n eccone: el gˆ¶rmˆ…yolarsa tabi cindy: whats wrong with 3 ..3♠ cindy: N passed 2N in open room cindy: not sure why othered1: wonder if that encourages ♣ shift? fabsayc: south can give suit preference actually othered1: Ithought south might have played 3 wilkinsona: and perhaps NS had to find a club switch sybarra: not sure W can handle it here either marlowepi: i dont hate to pass thommos: yes, looking at 7 clubs and 2 aces, hoping are ok cindy: my partner always has AJxxxxx idblu: however vulnerable you can expect this type of hand ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ - 67 - bg: see on slam they did lose an imp:)) sharkey: This plays well view S has ♣Ax caitlin: hard to believe over 3N West bid 4 © on own AFTER telling partner once prior he had hearts ahollan1: ME? i’ve played 2-way Stayman -and Montreal Relay for further distributional info since mid 70s caitlin: I used to play 2 way stayman ahollan1: but only when 1N=weak caitlin: yes caitlin: with weak NT othered1: So you’ve had 30 years of good results with it? caitlin: moi? othered1: Meanwhile, declarer has his work cut out here. caitlin: sorry not that old:) caitlin : I mean I am 30+ but not 30 years of bridge:) ahollan1: the good news for declarer - is that West holds SIX ahollan1: -- and East has no entry ahollan1: who said J and ♣J weren’t worth a full 2 points :) fabsayc: and declarer has no tricks, so tell me how to make caitlin: 7 tricks ahollan1: ♣Q gets ducked -- then what does West do? othered1: I don’t see any way for declarer to score this. santyclz: 8 tricks I think. fabsayc: if ducked he can play ace and another if he wants ahollan1: at some point West making uncomfortable discard AND giving away another round [♣/ ] trick othered1: maybe a low ♣ would give declarer some chances, or maybe not. caitlin: yes 8 yo_yo: will delmonte be thinking of a ♣ slam? ahollan1: on the auction J lead makes a lot of sense too othered1: 9 looks right, especially if they play odd-ranked leads idblu: all roads lead to 4 making ahollan1: which is why i prefer J lead idblu: might lead to a pseudo uppercut on occasions wygbe1: tough bid by n, who can visualize slam opposite ak of h and 3 small clubs chessmaste: Defence will have to be careful © © © © © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) roswolf: declarer might get out for -1 but -2 is likely yo_yo: do we all lead from Jxxx? josj: J9 is just acceptable roswolf: nope unless it works josj: J9xx ovncylmz: diger masada KG 12-14 ve 15-17 nt yi degisik oynuyor eccone: 5♣ karo tek gibi ovncylmz: kuzeyden tutuyor muyuz? eccone: mecburen kabexnuf: :) eccone: iyi atak ovncylmz: a takiminin sadece 4 oyuncusu var sengulerz: insan bir eli de tutturamaz mˆ‰ yakop: kacarsa kacar yakop: wowwwwwwwwww tokay1975 : riski tayin etmek lazim riski ve odulu bnm tercihim 5sp cok nedeni var yakop: 5cl 5d olursa 7 diyebilir tez: 7 iyisi ama expas yapma sansi oldugu icin 7 nin batma olasiligi var .7nt nin baska oyunu yok cindy: cant be missing vulnerable games..p werge: 1 NT is not my cup of tee - pass or 2 ♣ thommos: yes passing 1♠ was an option ralfwil: on N, agree Hans ahollan1: assuming Q lead asks for unblock or count, there is small chance that East hold doubleton -so my guess K continue b_eymen: hmm, akgun: 4h guneyden izliycez eccone: kˆ‰smetsiz :) nezihk: 2pik, 2 kor, 2 karo 6 lˆ¶ve var tuppermet: Cold for 3 diamonds (E-W) eccone: 3.den o zon durumunda kritik bi el yakop: yˆ‰lˆ‰n dekleresi olabilir ogoksel: 2 batacak gibi duruyor ilk bakˆ‰ˆ ta snorris: maybe they stumble inti it..p snorris: into it bg: your first question Ed is valid how does south get to bid a nf 3clubs? othered1 : I might lead J if I had supported. Otherwise, count seems best since dummy’s hand isn’t at all specific, is it? ahollan1: maybe not -- could be just as hard to read declarer’s heart length b_eymen: 3 nt sorunsuz dogu batˆ‰ iˆ§in ogoksel : ufuk bekleyip 2 dese idi sanirim positif bir el anlatmˆ‰ˆ olacaktˆ‰ eccone: AK10 ovncylmz: yerin rengi olayi kotu cidden ¨ ¨ © © ¨ ovncylmz: :) kabexnuf: bu 1M-2c sekanslarˆ‰nda son yˆ‰ llarda transfer sistemleri kullanˆ‰lmaya baˆ landˆ ‰. dadim: batˆ‰dan ne atak edersiniz? riyilikci: valentino- ˆ BB 6-12(devre) 8-21 wilkinsona: wests x here seems an improvement on the 3 clubs in OR..p ahollan1: tada fabsayc: something wrong with this auction idblu: not really, minimum w/long ♠ wants to play game josj: well, there we are roswolf: this can make i think b_eymen: cogu expert dbl la baslardˆ‰ vulkan: Ekinci de battˆ‰ 3nt ye 5.bordda nafiz: adaˆ hg riyilikci: 10 karo tez: okay in bi tezi vardir..sonuncudan iyi 18 ile 2nt acilabilir tez: onun 1 fazlasi var tez: 19:) sharkey: Yes - EW will be duly rewarded for their bidding..♣2 snorris: getting some imps back snorris: 13 in fact sharkey: If S unblocks and N shifts to - still make? panja: operator, could you pl clarify the meanings of bids? ralfwil: Can S have better cards? rise to 7 snorris: easier if south opens 3 snorris: then it should be easy snorris: well done marlowepi: i would pass with slight misgivings idblu: are they playing 2/1 or somehing else ahollan1: but looks like lack of intermediate spots will be the doom of declarer othered1: south has pointed suit pressure on east, but can’t get the count right for a squeeze wygbe1: he went for the guess with the biggest payoff jaapfr: impressive gambling:) jaapfr: educated quess akgun: diger masada tersten oynanacak nezihk: 3nt de 8 lˆ¶ve var, 9 herhalde olmayacak riyilikci: sonuˆ§ ayni kup yok RD karo kaˆ§iyor np tokay1975: turan bey hosgeldiniz:)))) yakop: okayˆ‰n bir TEZ’i eskiden vardi ˆ imdi ˆ ¶zcanˆ‰n bir TEZ’i var:) tez: atagindan sonra 5♣ hastaneye kalkar ¨ ¨ © - 68 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) nezihk: kˆ¶r ataˆ ˆ‰na haˆ amat olacak tez: ben delikanli gibi kacardim 2♣ e tayfunun eliyle cindy: it kinda describes your hand..♣7 marlowepi: all’s well that ends well mariner1: different routes however both rooms in © here snorris: but still lucky snorris: not loosing 3 ♣ tricks wilkinsona: norths raise bold all the same wilkinsona: ..may have a tough decision yet marlowepi: club K seems like a better shot than small 4 shevek : yet another flat board, just what Oz marlowepi: kinda ralfwil: agree snorri. The only thing to find 7 is needs for N to check aces snorris: right werge: Because of the ♠-bid, Souths hand was growing snorris: right wilkinsona: every chance of beating -4 however idblu: other room did not do well either shevek: mainly because partner will construct hands with the ace somewhere else chessmaste: That looks like a fatal play - now declarer has a second spade trick b_eymen: en iyi atak eccone: KARO 98 vardiye cinayet degil ama MolvaM: evet gayet makul atak esasen nezihk : trefl oynarsa 2 iˆ§eri gidebilir ,karo defansˆ‰yla yakop: artˆ‰k 7 demek kaldˆ‰ yakop: bravo orhan abiye tokay1975: wd nezihk: yˆ…rˆ… be emre yakop: 5 pik kor kontrolum yok demek ozgull: +2 vahaboglu: ♠ le geˆ§meye kalkarsa karˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰r nezihk: alttan pik oynar mˆ‰ acaba? tez: ile ortaga gecmeyi bulmali tez: alttan ♠ oynarsa:) nezihk: oynamaz ya, yani!!! nezihk: ortak da neyle kontr atˆ‰yor, 3 nt ye ve de 5 cle nezihk: karo asˆ‰ olduˆ u aˆ ikar yakop: niye riske etsinki ortagˆ‰ kontr demiˆ kendinde iki el var vahaboglu: bulurlarsa dˆ¶nˆ…ˆ ˆ… 4 iˆ§eri 1100 MolvaM: defans saˆ lam olursa bu bord 800 e kadar gidebilir tez: kuzey guney cifti yapay sistem oynuyor cindy: two suits ♠ and hmm..♣K mariner1: I am with Marshall here, prefer the slowing of 2♠ marlowepi : as you say, matter of style. xom would rather emphasize major with 100 honors than a very broken minor. both approahes will have their successes ¨ ¨ - 69 - ahollan1: so -- length showing probably IS best ahollan1: yep Ed - i’m convinced MolvaM: bazˆ‰ seyircilerimiz soruyor. tezcan hocamˆ‰z nerede diye MolvaM: tezcanˆ‰n takˆ‰mˆ‰ yarˆ‰n baˆ layacak turnuvaya eccone: cebini verelim :) vugraphzkg: istanbul 1 ve ankara 1 MolvaM: :) arigun : ayni anda diger masayida seyretmek isteyenler icin arigun: www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ sengulerz: nba seyreden arkadaˆ lar varsa bilirler.. tutturamama konusunda benden daha kˆ¶tˆ…sˆ… Kaan Kural’dˆ‰r eccone: 9 best eccone: ve naturel exerdar: 5minˆ¶rde -1 d-b iˆ§in bu elde exerdar: ama bulmak imkansˆ‰z:),ufak karo ataˆ ˆ‰ gibi eccone: atagˆ‰nada batar exerdar: kˆ¶rden sonra yine ufak karo lazˆ‰m gibi duruyor tyavuz: :) snorris: 9 tricks on top..♣4 ralfwil: 9 tricks without ♠ sharkey: sry - miscounted :( ralfwil: and NOT ♠J? snorris: king for count? snorris: ace for unblock snorris: ? snorris: -2 at least b_eymen: gelene nt demek iˆ§in arigun : bilgisayarda flash player9 veya ustu yuklu olmasi lazim arigun: flash icin ; http://www.adobe.com/products /flashplayer/ arigun: seyredeceginiz her masa icin browserinizdan ayri bir pencere acmak yeterli olacaktir eccone: :( yakop: alinin uyanˆ‰p 7 demesi lazim karo asˆ ‰nˆ‰ soylemedi MolvaM : deklaranˆ‰n ele gelme sorunu var. kozlarˆ‰ ve pikleri yere doˆ ru oynayabilmek iˆ§ © © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) in ♣ empasˆ‰nˆ‰ bˆ‰raktˆ‰ phantoma: !J dogru yerde olunca sorun cikmiyor ralfwil: If S had bid 2♠ W must bid 2nt not D as partner then will go to 2 .. 9 irwinbo: spades plays better he will go down at least two wilkinsona: on the heart switch care needed I suppose idblu: now and a duck is a 2 undertrick diff ahollan1: looks like China going minus at both tables -- nice way for Japan to get off the schneid athene: ok - so N-S do indeed play upside down carding aruf: naturel oynayanlar 4 deklarede 4 oynayacaklar :) ama istem olunca bˆ¶yle cilveleri oluyor eccone: ikilide yi olmazdˆ‰ akgun: evet 4h std ancak yon fark edecek eccone: gerci natˆ…reldede gˆ…ney oynuyor ogoksel: direkt 2 rengim var puanˆ‰m yok anlamˆ‰ taˆ ˆ‰yor olmalˆ‰ sengulerz: neyse 4. elin Akˆ…zˆ…m aˆ§ˆ‰sˆ‰ ndan ˆ…mit verici olduˆ unu tutturdum.. bˆ¶ylece maˆ§ birden heyecanlandˆ‰ MolvaM: 2♣ aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰na olumlu cevap geldiˆ inde mutlu olursunuz genelde. ama bu el hakan gˆ ¶ksuyu pek mutlu etmedi tez : cok karisik bi yapay sistem degil..kolay kolay konusmalarda atlamiyor ufuk ve tayfun MolvaM: irfan ve zaferin basit bir elde atlamasˆ‰ sadece yorgunluktan MolvaM: 3nolu elde b_eymen: ♣.. 7 b_eymen: yada k b_eymen: dbl ˆ iddetine baglˆ‰ :) eccone: 1 nt 2♣ aruf: evet akgun: evet bu elde 15-17 oldugu icin sorun yok nezihk: evet, As koru kendi kullandˆ‰, o zaman oyun sonunu getiremiyor MolvaM : hocamˆ‰z saˆ lˆ‰k ve afiyettedir merak etmeyiniz :) vugraphzkg: direk 1 32 ye katˆ‰lacaklar eccone: hehe eccone: boradanilgincbi atak eccone: sanˆ‰rˆ‰m tek oluru tokay1975 : spi birakˆ‰rsa 2 batar musti he donerse tokay1975: 5cle a s cevabi filanmi verdi acaba tokay1975: 5h bi garip belki as sorusu aldi 1 as dedi yakop: 3 h uzerine 4 d naturel olurdu 4h zaten forsing ©¨ © © ¨ ¨ © marlowepi: hearts is declarer’s second suit. W ¨ will let declarer look after them.. Q santyclz: Lets see, s has to lead a ♣ up for his 8th trick, I think that deprives him of a late entry. yo_yo: i wonder why Wang played A? tez: ♣ dam cok onemli bu elde.onu ogrenmeli yapay sistem oynayan cift yusufb: vugraf operatˆ¶rlerimizde gayet gˆ…zel idare ettiler onlarada TEBRˆ KLERRRR vugraphzkg: teˆ ekkˆ…rler yusuf abi tez: hepimizin basina geliyor molvam:)hangi birimiz sekans atlamadi unutmadi tez: nerde unuttun o onemli yo_yo: did he lead 7?.. 2 mpny: Paul need to play a D ralfwil: needs a switch idblu: has to hook ovncylmz: tam onu diyecektim ben de:) kabexnuf: guzel atak, -2 MolvaM: deklaranˆ‰n elinde tek parˆ§a pik vale olmasˆ‰nˆ‰ uman bir atak evet eccone: kjˆ¶rden sonra ufak karoya gerek yok cindy: he can now..♣3 mpny: well done shevek: real score again is 64 - 29 ahollan1: overtake with ♣K might have been interesting -- but south must always fall back upon finesse roswolf: with 3-3 japan have scored a real goal MolvaM: evet. deklaran yeri gˆ¶rdˆ…ˆ ˆ…nde " iyiki alttan almˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰m" demiˆ tir b_eymen: :) akgun: ancak guney 4441 olsada yine guneyden olucakti eccone: sistemde dikkat edilmesi gereken en ˆ¶ nemli sey belli olan elin yere acˆ‰lmasˆ‰ vulkan: +1 claim yakop : kritik maclarda bu kararlar cok etkili oluyor deyip batmak var demeyip yapamamak var eli iyi olan kazanˆ‰yo burada yazˆ‰ tura gibi riyilikci: KG iˆ§in sistemde baˆ ka alternatif yok tez: 3 yada 4 iceri phantoma: kor J yakop: genelde sekansˆ‰ ortaklar atlar degilmi hocam:) ahollan1: East holds ♣ and West squeezed down to winners..♣T eccone: +1 yapˆ‰labilir suan eccone: ♠ qxx ogoksel: dekleran 3♣ 2 lˆ¶vesi ile 5 lˆ¶vede ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 70 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) kalˆ‰cak ralfwil: So I mean that 2♠ is a better bid than 2 ..♣A santyclz: Low ♣ opening lead would have been fun. b_eymen: cakˆ‰lmassa 800 b_eymen: bu plana gˆ¶re cakˆ‰lacak MolvaM: bir ˆ ekilde keycard soruldu mu? tez: kesinlikle:)en cokta bikac sefer konustugunuz ve degistirdiginiz sekanslarda atlanir tez: hangisiydi acaba? tez: konusmalarin aciklamasini yazar misin baran lutfen MolvaM : kahvaltˆ‰da sen ˆ unu dememiˆ miydin? evet ama sonra yolda giderken deˆ iˆ tirmiˆ tik ya.. durumlarˆ‰ deˆ il mi? :) riyilikci: bildiˆ im kadarˆ‰ ile 2 dan itibaren natˆ…rel idblu: but can get 2 ruffs..♣9 idblu: better declarer play :) mcarroll: They found 4♠ on 6 in OR mcarroll: Sounds like a close your eyes and hope for the best - but with ♣ sa s trump a bit difficult to investigat scientifically wygbe1: he knew south would not be able to cooperate if slam were making ovncylmz: 500de anlasirlar:) tokay1975: 1098 h var yerde 500 le yirtar 3dia 2h 1sp 2cl defansa snorris: but that is good if he takes 5 tricks.. A eccone: 4441 ilan edip o elin sahibi oynayˆ‰nca defansˆ‰n iˆ i baya kolay aruf: 2 fazlaya geldi eccone: oynandˆ‰gˆ‰nda 2 batardˆ‰ yakop: zaten ortak rakipte karo vardˆ‰r diye asˆ ‰ olmadan kontr diyemez vahaboglu: operasyon pahalˆ‰ya patladˆ‰ tez: evet molvam aynen:) athene: west might cash ♠A now.. T athene: south can’t really have the ♠K athene: but would north play a third heart with the singleton ♠K, revealing the position? MolvaM: ˆ u ana kadar iˆ ler altan takˆ‰mˆ‰ lehine geliˆ ti hep eccone : Q ♠ ya QX yada AQX baska biˆ iy olamˆ‰yor eccone: bu yˆ…zden ♠ alˆ‰ ♠ vermek tehlikeli bi oyun tarzˆ‰ vugraphzkg : 2clnin cl ler ile alakalˆ‰ olup olmadˆ‰gˆ‰nˆ‰ sordu guney batˆ‰ya vugraphzkg: batˆ‰ olsa alert etmezdim zaten dedi :) © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 71 - eccone: haklˆ‰ eccone: :) riyilikci: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 riyilikci: turnuva bilgileri iˆ§in tez: bu oda ile diger odanin maci bitirme saatleri arasinda enaz 30 dakika olur diyorum..bahisler acilmistir MolvaM : diˆ er masada salvo 2 ♣ e kaˆ§arak kendini ˆ§ok iyi kurtarmˆ‰ˆ MolvaM: masamˆ‰zda son 3 dakikada gˆ¶rˆ…len seyirci patlamasˆ‰nˆ‰n sebebi bu elmiˆ demek ki chessmaste: 12 goals you will find.. 8 roswolf: :) MolvaM: 18 puan ama iˆ e yaramˆ‰yor MolvaM: 600 e kadar ˆ§ˆ‰mˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰k wilkinsona: in OR EW could have passed out 2 spades xx.. 3 b_eymen: 4-0 degilse batˆ‰da onˆ¶r 2 li ♣ oluyo kabexnuf: hmm MolvaM: bboda olsa batˆ‰ gˆ…neyi masadan atardˆ‰ tez: ♣ bagislansaydi tam felaket olacakti MolvaM: evet ˆ imdi 500 ile kurtaracak s tokay1975: batabilicegi bi oyunu yok ne oynasa yapiyo daalim seker gibi othered1: rectifying the count for a squeeze that isn’t there.. 4 wilkinsona: just drifting one off it seems snorris: east will continue sp and hope for no q of in south snorris: ah... 7 of ♣ wilkinsona: yes could well do ovncylmz: nezih abi bu eli 3nt mi 4♠ mi oynamak daha dogru? yakop: gecmiˆ ellere baktˆ‰m ˆ imdi battˆ‰klar ˆ‰ 6 trefin de etkisi olmuˆ tur MolvaM: doˆ ru karar tez: oynasaydi daha iyiydi bence daha once tez: zafev idblu: ?.. K ahollan1: nope -- declarer going for the quick loss vulkan: ne pik mi attˆ‰, operatˆ¶r hatasˆ‰ mˆ‰ eccone: ahahaha MolvaM: gˆ…ney de bana gelip haksˆ‰z yere oyundan atˆ‰ldˆ‰m ˆ ikayetˆ§iyim derdi vugraphzkg: 8li trefi elinde epey bi gezdirdikten ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) sonra dondu karoyu guney eccone: siz ne derdiniz paˆ am nezihk: kor K doˆ uda olduˆ u kesin yusuf pikten vazgeˆ§ti, kor empasˆ‰ yaparak 6 lˆ¶vesini alacak tez: bu oda yarim saat once bitirir maci riyilikci: 45 dakika dersen dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…rˆ…m tez: boylece diger oda seyirci rekoru kirar bu gece MolvaM: gene de 9 imp izmire ralfwil: ???.. 6 snorris: natural idblu: not only that...it would beat the contract begse: slm lar nezihk: goksu-akgul ne apel oynuyorlar eccone: :) ogoksel : yerdeki T98 dekleranˆ‰ -3 ten kurtarˆ‰r..Defans 2.♣ i almasa idi defansˆ‰n dekleranˆ‰ yere saplama ihtimali var idi MolvaM: evet ˆ u an kˆ¶r defos edebilir sorunsuzca wilkinsona: so boldness pays.. 5 yo_yo: she must have had a reason ogoksel: gˆ…neyden 2 ya bˆ‰rakmazdˆ‰m ˆ ahsen. tek 6 puan kompetisyona devam edebilir tez: garo bu ozlu ve guzel soze onceden calismis miydin? MolvaM: evet ˆ§ok dokunaklˆ‰ oldu. gˆ¶zyaˆ larˆ ‰mˆ‰ siliyordum ben de..♠9 yakop: sayendew ˆ air olacaz vugraphzkg: mola verildi idblu: ?..♠J vulkan: ha ˆ yle :) eccone: iˆ te bu olmadˆ‰ MolvaM: veya pik tabii fabsayc: good evening cindy, spectators..♠Q riyilikci: 4 bord sonunda bodrum-valentino 4-24 snorris: that would be carnage....♠2 wilkinsona: which may have been 1600 approx thommos: the A♠ was a good play by West, ensures they take their tricks chessmaste: As a general rule aces should be used for bashing kings akgun: 4441 oldugunu acandan baska bilen yok ancak:) tokay1975: bisey olmaz hep 500 cl bagislansada el acar MolvaM: 500 vermeye sorunsuz denebilir mio ayr ˆ‰ konu tabii tokay1975: bu defa yandan 1h 1sp alir 1cl 2dia 1h 1sp tokay1975: cl kazaninca dam h oynuyo elden defans caresiz ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ sharkey: 13 IMPs to the Chinese Ladies - Match tied..♠A marlowepi: W cannot see the layout. down 1 will suit him just fine cindy: ?? tokay1975: buyuk oynarlardi bnm v bildigim sybarra: yes..♠3 MolvaM: "puanˆ‰n da hayˆ‰rlˆ‰sˆ‰" deriz biz eskiler riyilikci: 4bord sonunda burdur-izmir 15-15 akgun: ancak 18-19 ise 4441 belli..♠7 nezihk: aˆ§ˆ‰k elde 4 pik daha iyi gˆ¶rˆ…nˆ… yor sharkey: a push..♠5 eccone: QX se yerde J koymanˆ‰n bi kaybˆ‰ yok nezihk: doˆ an maˆ§a iyi baˆ lamadˆ‰, dadim: defoslar nasˆ‰l die sormak iˆ§in ideal bi durum :) b_eymen: 3 imp kuzey gˆ…neye ..♠4 b_eymen: bˆ…yˆ…k ihtimal deniz_t: hg niz bˆ…yˆ…k usta:) tez: ben nafizin eliyle 3 nt derdim eccone: AQX se j koymalˆ‰ vahaboglu: 10 imp eder tez: belki hastaneye bizde kalkardik - 72 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 2 c 1N 8 © 8 this/total IMPs Quantum 107 Primabridge 2 65 2 110 -1 50 E S 5 ♠A 9 3 6 KQ6 2 5 5-6 J10 3 8 ♣Q 7 6 ♠K 7 6 2 N ♠Q J 4 J 43 10 9 8 5 W E Q95 A764 S ♣ K10 9 ♣A 8 ♠10 8 5 7-6 7 A7 7 K82 7 ♣J5432 5 90 W: Andonov W p 2 N: Nanev Open S: Mihov N E 1 1 p p ¨ E: Popov S X p © © #1 S::¨2,5,J,A #2 E::©5,7,J,Q #3 N::§7,8,J,K #4 W::©3,2,8,A #5 S::¨K,9,T,4 #6 S::ª8,2,A,4 #7 N::ª9,Q,5,6 #8 E::©9,§2,©4,K #9 N::ª3,J,T,7 #10 E::©T,§3,9,©6 roswolf: 1© is horrible imo..p..1¨!..1©..¨ lestergold: what is this heart overcall >??..2©! ..p..p..p lestergold: well this is not brideg as i recognise ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ it.. 2.. 5.. J.. A roswolf: tue captain kirk.. 5.. 7 lestergold : that is the mos pointless awful overcall ive seen for a long time.. J roswolf: true.. Q lestergold: kibs are cracking jokes roswolf: even if it was intended as a psyche lestergold: like it was lead directional roswolf: :) lestergold: or dims mixed yup with hearts vugraphb1: I am not sure, but... lestergold: all good jokes recieved will be passed on henryb: If you are going to psyche, why not 1♠. at least you want the lead! © - 73 - © © © roswolf: very pertinent comment lestergold: of course irony is that the diversion © ¨ will almosty certainly gain..♣7..♣8..♣J..♣K.. 3.. 2.. 8.. A vugraphb1: he missed Ivan’s openning of 1 ... he wanted to open 1 also ndemirev: .... so as 1D was unavailable he settled for the next cheapest .. K.. 9.. T.. 4..♠8..♠ 2..♠A..♠4..♠9..♠Q..♠5..♠6.. 9..♣2.. 4.. K ndemirev: :) ndemirev: 1 vugraphb1: yes vugraphb1: he did it smoothly, so... henryb: could not stand passing with 11 count them points lestergold: 1h being a transfer back to diamonds roswolf: lol roswolf: 2 imp gain..♠3..♠J..♠T..♠7.. T..♣3.. ♣9.. 6 vugraphb1: deserved 2 IMPs :) vugraphb1: and better loughs who loughs last :) henryb: Popov likes to be biddive, not passive vugraphb1: laugh :) roswolf: hmmm very erudite henry lestergold: we understood © © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 2 c 1N 8 © 8 E S this/total IMPs Primabridge 2 65 Quantum 107 2 110 -1 50 5 ♠A 9 3 6 KQ6 2 5 5-6 J10 3 8 ♣Q 7 6 ♠K 7 6 2 N ♠Q J 4 J 43 10 9 8 5 W E Q95 A764 S ♣ K10 9 ♣A 8 ♠10 8 5 7-6 7 A7 7 K82 7 ♣J5432 5 90 W: V.Aronov W p p N: S.Skorchev Closed E: J.Stefanov S: B.Popov N E S 1 p 1N p p ¨ ª2,3,J,8 ª4,T,7,A ªK,©2,5,§3 ¨4,K,5,3 ¨6,8,Q,J #1 W:: #3 E:: #5 W:: #7 E:: #9 E:: ªQ,5,6,9 §6,8,J,K ¨9,T,A,2 §2,9,7,A #2 E:: #4 N:: #6 W:: #8 S:: mariner1: a snore as Marshall said frankaus: more excitement here cindy: hi :) wilkinsona : well, we dont know about the 2 diamonds, but if it shows either major, 2 spades is normal werge: 3 is stupid - a brave man opens 1 D werge: 1 wilkinsona: take care ralfwil: bad defence snorris: a slm again snorris: slam snorris: 4 caitlin: well Japan on the map caitlin: doubt my brother watching....in Tokyo 28 + years othered1: one trick stolen at both tables xenya: or rather they didn’t find 4 perhaps... roswolf: another chance for japan MolvaM: aslˆ‰nda ˆ¶nˆ…mˆ…zdeki gˆ…nlerde ¨ ¨ © © masadan gˆ¶rˆ…ntˆ…lˆ… yayˆ‰n yapmayˆ‰ da deneyebiliriz MolvaM: bu elde de herˆ ey yerli yerinde MolvaM: 4pik kontratˆ‰ iˆ§in vugraphzkg: masada ki oyunculardan biri yˆ…zˆ …nˆ… yˆ‰kamak iˆ§in izin alarak gitti MolvaM: kim? doˆ udki oyuncu mu? MolvaM: gˆ…venilir kaynaklardan aldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰mˆ ‰z bilgi ile ˆ¶ˆ rendik ki MolvaM: 4pike batan oyuncu gitmiˆ vugraphzkg: :) MolvaM: aslˆ‰nda doˆ unun yˆ…zˆ…nˆ… yˆ‰ kamasˆ‰na gerek yok. diˆ er masadaki oyuncu da aynˆ‰ duruma dˆ…ˆ ecek b_eymen: 1nt ye dbl dense daha ilginc seylerolabilir MolvaM: hatta bu son eli kontrsuz atlatmak bence gayet makul bile b_eymen: ewet ucuz atlattˆ‰lar MolvaM: bu turnuva ile ilgili sonuˆ§larˆ‰ MolvaM: tbf web sayfasˆ‰ndan takip edebilirsiniz MolvaM: muhtemelen sonuˆ§lar her akˆ am gˆ… ncellenecektir MolvaM: her maˆ§tan sonra olmasa bile MolvaM: turnuva toplam 6 gˆ…n sˆ…recek MolvaM: ilk 3,5 gˆ…nˆ… izmir fuarˆ‰nda MolvaM: son 2,2 gˆ…nˆ… ise ege palas MolvaM: oteli salonlarˆ‰nda oynanacak vugraphzkg: teknik arˆ‰zadan dolayˆ‰ baglant ˆ‰mˆ‰z koptu yeniden birlikteyiz ovncylmz: gerci turkiyede bu 2ntler bazen kotu ellerle de yapiliyor b_eymen: kˆ¶re baglˆ‰ o ovncylmz: ozgur bakan suphelenmis olabilir mi? b_eymen: ben 3 demezdim b_eymen: riskli baya ovncylmz: ben de demezdim, ozgur de demezdi ovncylmz: :) ovncylmz: bence suphelenip kafayi soktu:) ovncylmz : diger masada hala enteresan 4 boardu oynaniyor eccone: Q10X OLSA ♠ 10 CIKARDI MolvaM: kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k ˆ§aplˆ‰ da olsa bormali tak ˆ‰mˆ‰ iˆ§in bir moral takviyesi nezihk: rahmi kaˆ§ devre maˆ§ sengulerz: burada oynarken sadece briˆ§ oynamak olmuyor bu iˆ .. konsantrasyonu hep yˆ…ksek tutmak, fiziksel olarak gˆ…ˆ§lˆ… kalmak kabexnuf: 2sp acan? dadim: 2♠ eccone: dbl 5 gelirse ilginc olabiˆ lirdi yakop: bu el bence turnuvanˆ‰n en guzel deklerasyon eli olmalˆ‰ © ¨ ¨ - 74 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) yakop: baˆ tan sona harika riyilikci: baˆ lˆ‰yoruz tez: 1100 verince gidip elimi yuzumu yikardim tokay1975: tutar abicim dam h oynuyo alsin defans dia yˆ‰kˆ‰yo bi h daha veriyo 3diaya elden 2cl 1sp defos ediyo el aciyo bisey yok tez: ozlemistik boyle elleri yusufb: tv reklamˆ‰ gibi oldu birazdan:) mariner1: EW can beat 4♠ here......p mariner1: 3N makes though frankaus: poll for final contract & result - 4♠ S +1 for me fabsayc: fast pass and on to 25, which is more interesting cindy: looks like a pass out here too othered1: this they may be able to make. ralfwil: But N found a nice endplay on W, so perhaps -1 IMP for the dutch athene: a good board here for australia idblu: tight bridge so far ahollan1: 1 -(2♣)-X?P santyclz: I believe their 1 is 0+. b_eymen: ˆ ˆ…pe kafa koparˆ‰r :) ovncylmz: 6.boardda enteresan seyler oldu nezihk: rakibi biraz hafife aldˆ‰ arigun: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams_ event.php?event=172&stage=369 tez: jr yilankiran genclerden olusan bir takim arigun : 4. board diger odada 4 ♠ oynaniyor, yilankiran 12 veya 13 alacak MolvaM: 1 ˆ lem daha koksoy: ve iste 4. slem boardu... nezihk: 3nt puanˆ‰ da 12 ye indi tokay1975: kabak 5lovesi kabak el acar wilkinsona: once again 3NT bites the dust in OR..1 !..11-15p, 1+!D cindy: this is fun hand bg: should reach a slam snorris: -1 shevek: a routine 3NT here... kabexnuf: kontrat ne arigun: 1. devre detay sonuclar icin yukaridaki linke tiklayabilirsiniz nezihk: 6 karoya ulaˆ acaklardˆ‰r. yakop: %100 haklˆ‰sˆ‰n tokay marlowepi : in my view, N should open 1H regardless of system..p snorris: on their marry way.. wilkinsona: looks like it snorris: merry ralfwil: on a cross ruff wilkinsona: or 3NT ¨ ¨ - 75 - ¨ snorris: thats better mpny: Kath, do you know what 1H is sharkey: to crowd the forcing ♣ action yo_yo: Paul wants to disrupt them mpny: it was alerted sharkey: think 3NT by E has chances werge: Might show red OR black suits mdgraham: what price this ends in something © doubled? sybarra: at least equal stealing athene : if north didn’t open, you might miss game ahollan1: finally -- confirmation of Precision fabsayc: i have to go, enjoy all chessmaste: The auction in the other room was unconvincing ovncylmz: KG treflleriyle degil de korleriyle yaristilar ovncylmz: su an 4 dendi dusunulmekte eccone: dogunun eliyle 3♠ denilebilir MolvaM: bu maˆ§larda moral bozulup normal dˆ ‰ˆ ˆ‰ hareketler yapmak ˆ§ok tehlikeli yakop : sadece guney 5h dese kurtarˆ‰rdˆ‰ belki tez: 1♣ acacak MolvaM: 4pik? vahaboglu: o zaman 800 mˆ… yazˆ‰lˆ‰yor MolvaM: bˆ…lent bu elle araya girer diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ …nmˆ…ˆ tˆ…m MolvaM: az sonraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa cindy: a grand ..1N idblu: wine break..brb ralfwil: ´⁄1h on EW ovncylmz: DB ye 4 varken, KG 1 X oynadilar ovncylmz: ve 14imp Izmire gitti b_eymen: ewet transsfer owercall mu oynuyolar acep? vugraphzkg: evet alort edilmiˆ :) ovncylmz: bilmem ama double uzerine anlasmamislarsa oynamamalari daha guzel :) ovncylmz: diger masada oyunun yarisi bitti su an itibariyle ovncylmz: transfer overcalls (1 =korler, 1 = pikler) gibi ovncylmz: 2kor deklaresinden sonra 3nt oynamak mecburi gorunuyor ama normalde kor ve trefllerde ciddi problem vardi eccone: 3 konv degilse daha iyi olabilirdi MolvaM: evet. ama ˆ ikan yok kimsede sharkey: may stop at part score here..p wilkinsona: west bound to upgrade after the 4 diamond splinter ¨ © © ¨ © © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) © snorris: 2 ? snorris: showing intermediate strength snorris: it seems marlowepi: i would not pass the N hand cindy: thats ugly 1 idblu: love those 4 card majors...remind me of © my younger days ralfwil: 4 athene: of course that was never a danger :) idblu: see ya Martin, gn santyclz: As Edgar used to say: this is the kind of weak nt that gives weak nts a bad name. ovncylmz: rakibin doublelarina karsi napmak gerektigi konusulmali demek istedim nezihk: gerˆ§i o da koz ataˆ ˆ‰na karoya kalˆ‰ yor eccone: sˆ‰kˆ‰stˆ‰rmak babˆ‰nda eccone: ortak pastan geldigi icin eccone: kesinlikle MolvaM: kˆ¶tˆ… bordlarˆ‰ unutup o ele konsantre olmakta yarar var dadim: 2 ♣ diyen eccone: rakibe fazla yer bˆ‰rakmamak lazˆ‰m ovncylmz: 2c ye dbl falan yok mu? tokay1975: 3he pas demis,m super bi elim var 3he pas diyen el icin ortak rahatca degerlendirebilir pas diyosa 5e cok cok az batma riski olabilir onun disinda sorun olmaz koksoy: ilk elden sonra 6-7 slem eli olacagˆ ‰nˆ‰ tahmin etmistim tez: geri dondugumde bunun bir is kazasi egitim zayiatˆ‰ oldugu konusunda kendimi ikna ederdim MolvaM: maksat ortalˆ‰k karˆ‰ˆ sˆ‰n diye tez: acanin rengini cuebid etmek diger iki renk ..enaz 55 snorris: they are going there too..p cindy: is this the real bidding ? cindy: im getting dizzy :) sybarra: better bg: good idea not to try for six maybe at match points and you are not playing with your spouse thommos: not for the lead! yo_yo: you were right mike mdgraham: trump lead... eccone: sup oynamˆ‰yolarmˆ‰s barbyh: do they play support dbls?..p marlowepi: here 1D could be a winner though marlowepi: it looks like it from that 2NT bid, barb barbyh: yes but hard to imagine 3nt with the south hand snorris: no good bid in north © bg: thats better 2 clubs by East some system not yet written sybarra: now how they are not in 6 is beyond me cindy: how about keycard now sybarra: was some form of experimental ghestem maybe sybarra: meaning 6340 npcjpn: but south does not know about shortness... sybarra: or as a spec said, an exclusion 2 suiter cindy : no but he knows N has 5 hearts and 4 clubs sybarra: come on, bruce, be creative bg: ok keycard then go for it:)) sybarra: I was still talking about the (misentered) 2 ♣ bid snorris: flushed with sucsess north moves on marlowepi: you wont be able to overcall with this shape, so bid right away othered1: south stops to investigate, but now what? athene: playing Precision, south’s 2 response would be natural and constructive but non-forcing sharkey: 3 - 3 NT? athene: so she has to bid the artificial 2 relay first then 3 is forcing santyclz: Gn Martin. roswolf: well done chessmaste: We should have a new leader soon yo_yo: i have sympathy with the 2♠ bid in the other room, it’s not a great suit eccone: 2♣ davet olsa gerek ovncylmz: 3nt gelecek herhalde ogoksel: 2♠ tutulur ise 2 iˆ§eri gibi duruyor tez: murat molva 3.den zayifacmayana anadoluda kiz vermiyorlar diyordu gecenlerde:) riyilikci: 3 =♠+♣ iyi el MolvaM: 2nt ile gˆ…ney kˆ‰salˆ‰k sormuˆ demekki baylind: 3h sp cl iyi 55 oynuyorlar koksoy : normal transfer + splinter yapˆ‰ labilirdi.. ogoksel : dˆ…z bir 4 ♠ deklerasyonu ve kart oyunu..heyecan yok bu elde oyuncular biraz dinlenir tez: cevapcinin rengini soylemek naturel wilkinsona: good lead it seems..♠2 othered1: I’m not at all sure about 4 snorris: what?? wilkinsona: well, dont really follow the x yo_yo: how many down mcarroll: S opened 1 in OR wygbe1: he was in a tough position, too strong ¨ © © © ¨ © © - 76 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) for 4c, 5c would end the auction, and over 4s, how would south know how to continue? josj: N bid only 2 ♠, thus S did not know about the extra trick coming from the 7th spade eccone: otomatik bence ovncylmz: 2/3c denir ya dadim: bence de MolvaM : tabiki oyuncular skoru bilmiyorlar masada eccone: kuzeyin pas gecmesi ilginc oldu ovncylmz: kuzeyden pas mi? riyilikci: DB bˆ…yˆ…k ihtimalle 4 ♠ oynayacak, kˆ¶r atak edilmezse oyun sorunsuz ama...... yakop: karˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰:) MolvaM: operatˆ¶rˆ…mˆ…zden bilgi geldi... MolvaM: ˆ§ok kayˆ‰p var diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ndˆ… vahaboglu: ben olsam "elimde ♣ i kapalˆ‰ gˆ¶ rdˆ…m ortak" derdim snorris: not good ..♠3 irwinbo: no opening 2 diamond bid and no bid over two clubs santyclz: Bob Hamman has no problem with his rebid. ahollan1: i bet most partnerships haven’t discussed North’s 3♣ bid -- Natural and big hand without better bid both understandable interpretations santyclz: If 3nt is an option, bid it. othered1: I would not play it as natural othered1: but it’s certainly reasonable to do so. caitlin: but I would still pass fabsayc: maybe not natural but surely something in suit, has many other options ahollan1: well -- especially with increase use of 1 ♣ as 2+, i think Natural is very reasonable use othered1: North is worried about missing slam or a better minor suit game. ♠ void is a concern. caitlin: oh I hate short club fabsayc: i have short diamond jaapfr: what were the results of the Dutch team? eccone: 3♠ denilsede 3 nt geliyodu eccone: rakibe tek konusma sansˆ‰ tanˆ‰mak lazˆ‰m elden geldikce riyilikci: 3 devre oynanacak, bˆ…tˆ…n devreler kapali line-up bu yˆ…zden hep ayni ekipleri karsˆ ‰ karsˆ‰ya seyredebiliriz sengulerz: hepsi bi arada gerekiyor.. dolayˆ‰sˆ ‰yla "aa bunu da nasˆ‰l yapˆ‰yolar" demeden ˆ¶nce bu turnuvanˆ‰n 7 gˆ…nlˆ…k bir turnuva olduˆ unu da hatˆ‰rlamak gerekiyor MolvaM: 5♣ barajˆ‰ heyecanlˆ‰ olabilirdi fabsayc: club shift needed?..♠J sharkey: well - dont think this was one of the - 77 - alternatives we had in mind :) ahollan1 : i never know what to do with East hand -- DBL is only way to play 33 ♠ fit josj: well, the suit is quite bad but that’s not so interesting when you preempt chessmaste: True, but 3♠ still looks an underbid yo_yo: this time the K of trumps falls ovncylmz: wow MolvaM: ♣ harici as sorusu olarak almˆ‰ˆ tez: dedigim gibi yapay sistem oynuyorlar.1♣ 16 yeni katilan izleyiciye bilgi tez: 16+ marlowepi : which is not to be interpreted as approval of 2NT..♠8 mariner1: I am told they do play support DBL’s ralfwil: ????? wilkinsona: is 4 spades not there..? marlowepi: 2D? idblu: declarer will have a lot to worry about here sybarra: but is the lead N got thommos: looks like a , ♣ and one in the wash to loose - making 10 fabsayc: make that hate ahollan1: the more I see 1♣=2+ and transfer responses, the more i like it caitlin: :) athene: ok - doesn’t bother with showing hearts othered1: if I bid east’s hand that way, partner would correct to 2♠ with 3-1-6-3 idblu: win ♣ and ♠ switch kills this hand eccone: iyi durdular :) vulkan: Erdalˆ‰n eliyle ben 1 pik aˆ§ˆ‰p 2 karo rebid ediyorum MolvaM: ama gene de ˆ leme batan bir oyuncu kendini iyi hissetmez yakop: ˆ u anda 15 e 8 olabilirlerdi eerbil: 4pik’de gˆ¶khan kˆ‰rmˆ‰zˆ‰ renklerden skuiz oluyor karo asˆ‰nˆ‰ yˆ‰kmazlarsa eˆ er MolvaM: eller ˆ§ok gˆ…zel ama 4pik batacak gibi tyavuz : karo defansˆ‰ yapˆ‰lmazsa 4 pik oluyor galiba mariner1: I think Frank will owe us a beer..♠Q marlowepi: 4S is a very conservative action frankaus: first leg in but looks unlikely to make +1 snorris: 2 imps if south cashes out wilkinsona: declarer can gain an imp by taking 7 tricks wilkinsona: yes 4 hearts not a bad contract really othered1: and 5 isn’t a bad spot at all athene: easy to make ten tricks here without the clubs ¨ ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) shevek: China Women’s Team lost the World yo_yo: what’s that defence called? to the strong Championship Final 222-223 to England last year athene: 9 and 10 both work hard for you sharkey: and EW can only cash 2 ♣ tricks sybarra2: where are "we" headed, 5 ♣? jaapfr: J:) wygbe1: it has been pointed out by kibitzer that if you are going to bid 6c, you might as well bid 4nt on the way to confirm you are not off two aces if 4nt is blackwood xenya: concealing the suit has worked out quite well for declarer -- she gets a very helpful lead riyilikci: bu devre ˆ§ok sayida ˆ lem sˆ‰nˆ‰rˆ‰ nda el var, geride olan takimlar iˆ§in birˆ§ok firsat sˆ¶z konusu, eccone: yazsana vugraf organizasyonu ve maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰nˆ‰n tˆ…m detaylarˆ‰yla anˆ‰nda yayˆ‰nlanmasˆ‰ cokk gˆ…zel diye eccone: yazssana fazla oldu sorry :P exerdar: :) riyilikci: skorlar iˆ§in http://clubs.vugraph.com/ tbricfed/teams_round.php?round=1408 eccone : antalyadada aynˆ‰ organizasyon olucakmˆ‰ merak iˆ§indeyim yakop: bu durum ali iˆ§in hiˆ§ iyi degil yeterli tecrubesi olmadˆ‰gˆ‰ndan bundan sonraki bordlar onun iˆ§in sˆ‰kˆ‰ntˆ‰lˆ‰ geˆ§ebilir MolvaM: ve 1 as gˆ¶stermiˆ ali snorris: 2 imps..♠5 sharkey: Some may have bid 3♠ with East’s hand cindy: i cant see em staying out of at least a small slam here ralfwil: not even a try! santyclz: If pd’s 1 showed s, I’d pass with e. jaapfr: good kib:) eccone: KG icin hic bi zonda sorun yok ogoksel: ♠ ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰r ise 11 ˆ ˆ‰kˆ‰lmaz ise 12 lˆ¶ve tez: kisanin karsisinda kq sekten daha kotu bisey var mi? marlowepi: 4S cold if S reads this as singleton.. ♠6 wilkinsona: yep wilkinsona: defence requires care.. othered1: That may have been a helpful lead. Now NS need to be careful wilkinsona: I think north has done fine so far othered1: Do NS lead A from AK? idblu: is worrying about ruffs cindy: looks that way to me too club? ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ © mdgraham: The Unsuccessful Defence yo_yo: this is not a good advert for it ralfwil: Suicide defence? caitlin: same score othered1: Stayman auction touted west away from her ¨. geller : looks like 3nt is an easy make here. should be flat. © yo_yo: surely she will win in North & finesse sybarra2: suggested it will be 6 idblu: can anyone explain the auction :) sybarra2: it actually looks like a puppet minor ¨ suit auction ovncylmz: 4 boardunda 5♣ ve 5 geldi ovncylmz: ve X eccone: hmm ovncylmz: harika:) yusufb: yok sybarra: redble..♠9 bg: 3nt N ? how about 3 hearts or 4 dia isnt it cue bid time? snorris: 10 tricks withright wivev in ♣s wilkinsona: as kib says just make 2 clubs snorris: not trying to play on ♠s ralfwil: I don´·t know their system, but couldn´·t W have bis 3 after the transfer? ahollan1: then 1 =4+ and some say guarantees unbal -- huge advantage in later and competitive auctions caitlin: maybe not caitlin: if 1 promises unbalanced then I understand short club caitlin: but many play it to play it ahollan1: why would length of opener’s affect your choice? othered1: Isn’t pass possible on east’s hand? And mightn’t north double 2 ? East is lucky this hasn’t become a disaster santyclz : I believe in letting the opps play misfits. I have nothing against letting them play in ♣s, and can bid 2 if pd x’s. yo_yo: bingo roswolf: yup ovncylmz: kuzey 11puani ile pusuda kaldi galiba:) eccone: pusuda hala tez: 1♣=yapay acis 2♣ pozitif el 2 bekleme 2 ♠ naturel 3♠ forsing tutus tez: 3 tur ♣ oynayarak baslarsa defans...gokhan in asini almayi ertelemesi iyi defans tokay1975 : bence 3h derken hun4luyse 4cle ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © ¨ © - 78 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) donebilirsin mesaji verdi zorlu snorris: this is not more than 3 down..♠4 ralfwil: 4 down after a ruff and trumpd return snorris: well yes marlowepi: heart ruff is hard to find werge: 30 years ago in Denmark it was called Robinson yo_yo: that’s a good name yes :) ahollan1: play a new convention because it’s sexy -- bah MUST understand the ramifications on other auctions to adopt ralfwil: 10 tricks werge: Not the lead, West expexted - but hoped for athene: there might even be 11 tricks if east gets squeezed b_eymen: 1nt 2 nt gibi partskorlara pasif atatklar en ideali ovncylmz: ooo eccone: 3♣ tolga 3 diyebilirdi eccone: 6 lˆ‰ olmadˆ‰gˆ‰ bidurum olamaz ama 3..den acˆ‰ldˆ‰ diye ˆ…stelemedi heralde eccone: iyi atak MolvaM: ahmet kˆ¶kerin 2 tur pas geˆ§mesi gayet gˆ…zel 1 manevra bence tez: 3nt x = diger masa tez: ♣ atagindan sonra 9 el alinmis MolvaM: irfanˆ‰n 3.den zayˆ‰f aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ dengeyi bozmuˆ tez: 6♠+2 +1♣=9 el arigun: 6 yi demek icin rakibin ♠ ile sˆ‰kˆ‰stˆ ‰rmasˆ‰ gerekiyordu, okayin mudahale etmemesi lehine oldu tokay1975: salvo 2nt trnsf sandi sanirim ama pastan gelrkende oynuylaarmi tokay1975: oynuyolarmi nezihk: herhalde bir tek kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k Kˆ¶r ataˆ ˆ‰ na olur tokay1975: ilk cli alip 2nciyi almamak kosuluyla 4ceri gidebilir gibden baktˆ‰k tokay1975: ama ilkini boslarsa yapiyo tokay1975: yani 5love tokay1975: gib benden akˆ‰llˆ‰ olduguna gore tokay1975: minareyi calan kˆ‰lˆ‰fˆ‰ hazirlar:) phantoma: mantikli sybarra: should be in 7 shortly at this table ..♠T cindy: do you start slam cue bidding at the 3 level ? caitlin: agree and that was sexy Al:) xenya: yes, easy 10 tricks it seems ovncylmz: diger masadan sok bir el daha geldi riyilikci: oynayan ataˆ ˆ‰ boˆ larsa bazen bir ˆ ansˆ‰ olur, ama murat kazˆ‰l 8liyi attˆ‰ bile ¨ ¨ ¨ - 79 - ¨ eerbil: herhalde irfan ile zafer kontrun ne olduˆ unu anlaˆ mamˆ‰ˆ lar koksoy: ama 8 pun ve cok kˆ¶tˆ… renk var tam denk gelmis vahaboglu: 22 HCP ile iyi deneme tokay1975: cli 5li olsaydi kesinlikle demezdi diye dusunuyorum yusufb: 2 A nasˆ‰l alˆ‰namamˆ‰ˆ acaba MolvaM : bence KJ daha kˆ¶tˆ…. KQ hiˆ§ olmazsa 1 el alˆ‰r snorris: 8 tricks..♠7 irwinbo: yes or 1 diamond if that is to your taste sharkey: May be some form of CRASH - this time the did... werge: 500... ahollan1: too right Ed -- Pass probably best -- but so tempting to DBL and hope 2♠ finds a 7 card fit sybarra2: so it is 6 ♣ sengulerz: brb tez: konusmanin voidwood olabilmesi icin kozun ne oldugu belli olmali..5 seviyesinde olmali.. tez: ve sicrama olmali vahaboglu: ˆ¶nceki bordda 5♠ exclusion olurdu tez: son secenegi atlamis ali MolvaM: bu ˆ ampiyonada keyvardlar eksik deˆ ilse grandˆ lem, 1 eksik varsa da ˆ lem demekte yarar var bence :) genellikle oluyor ˆ lemler tokay1975: anlasmazlik oldu 2ntde kalˆ‰rlardi MolvaM : KJ’nin ise neye yarayacaˆ ˆ‰ belli olmaz sharkey: 3 IOMPs now..♠A snorris: 3 imps sharkey: IMPs wilkinsona: anyone for a x on the west hand? cindy: i dont npcjpn: 5♣? wilkinsona: lots of cards right for declarer othered1: This is a pretty friendly hand for NS, despite the Q in the weaker hand idblu: only has to find the J santyclz: Didn’t find the lead. ovncylmz: 2♠ pass pass pass gitti ovncylmz: board 7 nezihk: 3 nt 3 treflden daha iyi deˆ il mi, kor ataˆ ˆ‰na oluyor MolvaM: rakibin 3 ntye gelmesini umuyor tuppermet: doˆ u-batˆ‰ 1nt aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ nedeniyle 3 trefli bulamˆ‰yor marlowepi: win in hand, hook heart, discard club, then scissors in hearts..♣6 snorris: no ¨ ¨ © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) wilkinsona: In OR East only raised to 3 hearts, so MolvaM : karo as ataˆ ˆ‰ ˆ§ok baˆ arˆ‰lˆ‰ didnt look near six, but after the 4d west looks ideal ahollan1: declarer thinking -- those pesky minor suit quacks werge: Claim, pls nezihk: 7 derlerse batacaklar, riyilikci: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 MolvaM: evet seyircilerimizin dediˆ i gibi bg: I play 2c is GF therefor e3 dia starts a cue bid series aces-kings- N is not cooperating singletons.. ♣8 mdgraham: if you play a strong club you just love boards like this xenya : a ♠ lead, for exampple/ would have defeated the contract easily eccone: claim riyilikci: bu linkte turnuva ile ilgili her ˆ ey var riyilikci: idim tabi OLA PATRA riyilikci: sorry private sengulerz: 5. elde de 4♠ -1 gelince fark 2ye kadar indi marlowepi: but twop trump lsoers anyway..♣J thommos: maybe should of played A the Q idblu: has ’s to ruff, ♠’s to finesse.... cindy: can he do it all ? sybarra: lot of work thommos: only 3 trumps, not always right othered1: this will present no problems at all, when break revealed. arigun: simdi emniyetli tarafa empass yapilir eccone: seyircilerden bu konu hakkˆ‰nda cok soru geliyor mariner1: now a couple of ruffs..♣K snorris: ok if he can manage 6 tricks as e-w have 3 eccone: tersten gelmemesi halinde tabi :) eccone: gerci tersten gelinse bile dbl ♣ atak ister MolvaM: ama diˆ er taraftan da eˆ er ortaˆ ˆ‰ atak edecek hale gelirse ataˆ ˆ‰n bulunamamasˆ ‰ riski de var tabii eccone: ya ♠ konusulmadˆ‰ nezihk: 4 cl den trefl rua var sandˆ‰ herhalde tokay1975: sp rua yada cl rua ogrenmeden 7 demek cok riskli arigun: ♣ rua korumada yakop: bi de bize sor paˆ am:) tokay1975 : adx cl vardi batida onun 3ncu clinede elden squiz oluyo olurdu ©¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ © tokay1975: tezcan beye bi yemek kaybettim bu arada ogoksel: gib:Gˆ¶rsel ˆ ˆ itsel Briˆ§ˆ§i? tokay1975: yemegine iddaaya girmistikj MolvaM: bbo da bu tˆ…r ataklarˆ‰ ˆ§ok sˆ‰k gˆ ¶rˆ…yoruz malum ralfwil: but now, with a well placed ♠K and 3 from P..♠K sybarra2: same contract other table with W as declarer and lead MolvaM: belki de genel kuvvet ve koz kalitesi sormuˆ olabilir eerbil: zafer’in kontru kˆ¶r ataˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in attˆ‰ˆ ˆ ‰nˆ‰ sanˆ‰yorum tez : 1 ♣ pas 1 dbl=daha dengelice ellerle atiliyor..genellikle 54 yada 44 cindy : i play 3 is just forcing and could be trying to get to 3N or could be slam interest.. 2 sybarra: 5 nt grandslam force or josephine as it used to be called wilkinsona: yep, sorry tez: 5 koz dam sorusu ....koza donuz koz dam yok tokay1975: ard sekin gercekte iyi bi tutus olmadigini biliyor tez: kj sek varken rakip asini alir..kj sek varken belki yanlis koyar diye asini koymayabilir defans MolvaM: karo boˆ lanmˆ‰ˆ 1 tur herhalde snorris: agree.. 5 sybarra: shou;d mark the ♣ finesse also eccone: yada ♣ eccone: :) arigun: gerciˆ ilk lovede ♣10 asin yerini soyluyor ama seytan doldurmaz mi ? :) yakop: bana degiˆ ik yorumlar geliyo 2 nt ile ilgii ama irfan davet etti zafer anlamayˆ‰p 3 tref dedi tez: koza donus=yok b_eymen: ilginˆ§..♣3 tokay1975: hakan cl pasi yapacak sanirim nezihk: daha fazla ihtimal tokay1975: rxx clede oynayabilir ama pas biraz daha iyi yuzde tez: diger masada konusmalar soyle gitmis tez: 8 verirse !e devam ister MolvaM: sorulduˆ u zaman da oyuncu genellikle elim karo astan baˆ ka ˆ ey ˆ§ˆ‰kmaz ki der genellikle oyuncular wilkinsona: your partners wjo must be as bad as mine.... 9 othered1: west may be considering that the K ¨ © © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ - 80 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) is onside yo_yo: I would love defending this ovncylmz: J109XX - J108XX AKX ile 2sp acisi da riskli ovncylmz : nafiz abilerin bazen bunlarla 1sp actiklarini biliyorum b_eymen: sisteme baglˆ‰ kalmak lazˆ‰m b_eymen: bukadar cˆ‰kmaz tez: ♠ e tez: simdi istiyor tokay1975: zafer keske x deseydim diye dusunuyodur MolvaM: koz ataˆ ˆ‰ ˆ§ok baˆ arˆ‰lˆ‰ snorris: but he wont.. T sybarra: terrible trump split here (just kidding) cindy: way to go Israel ahollan1: is smooth duck any better? othered1 : it’s opposite a limited opening -partner will act again if it’s your hand most of the time. eccone: 130 eccone: K rua cekilse daha iyi ovncylmz: evet MolvaM: ahmet kˆ¶ker operatˆ¶r gˆ¶z doktoru imi ˆ dadim : korun ikili oldugu tarafta 2 asˆ‰ da bulmasˆ‰ lazˆ‰m ama ... vahaboglu: ˆ¶nceki turlarda olmuyordu sharkey: Kib suggests Lobotomy Defence..... A xenya: not that she is going to make it now it seems mustafaozk: selam arkadaˆ lar MolvaM: bu el de 12 imp sˆ¶z konusu eˆ er 4pik batarsa mariner1: in Open NS ended in 5 .. 2 snorris: do it fabsayc: yes would explain this line eccone: declere sˆ¶yle olsa mesala MolvaM: gˆ¶zˆ…nden rahatsˆ‰zlˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ olanlar lˆ…tfen nur kumkaleye baˆ vursun :) tez: koz dam empasi yapmazsa batacak ogoksel: demekki geˆ§en el zabunoˆ lu takˆ‰mˆ ‰na ve tokaya pahalˆ‰ya patladˆ‰..:) tokay1975: salvoda 3lu hu biliyor MolvaM: ˆ imdi pik vale empasˆ‰ gerekecek tez: rakibin iki kozu varken..ozellikle ikinci rengi iyi durdururken koz atagi iyi sonuc verir phantoma: 6-3 dusunmuyorsa ♣ i dusurmeye de gidebilir dogan mariner1: lead.. 4 mariner1: tez: 1♣ dbl 1 1nt pas 3nt dbl pas pas pas..dogu dealer © ¨ ¨ ¨¨ © - 81 - © ¨ MolvaM: bu elde ˆ lemi bulamamak normal tokay1975: bu yeri gorunce spe devam etmesi normal love kaybetmek istemez jaapfr: she makes.. K mustafaozk: iyi akˆ amlar sengulerz: hemen ♠ oynamalˆ‰ ralfwil: A defence against a strong ♣ is combined with suited hands not balanced.. 5 othered1: no ahollan1: and with the actual hand West will pass [reopen contraindicated with that ♣ holding] arigun: fikret direkt 3♣ dese belki nevzat diyebilirdi ancak simdiki 3♣ yarisma amacli oldugu icin diyemedi eccone: 1 1♠ 3 3NT DBL otomatik ♣ atak ister eccone: slm snorris: can end play e for 5 tricks.. 3 tez: kontr bence yerin rengini istiyor tez: yerin bilinen vaadedilen rengi ♠ tokay1975: dogru:))) tez: kq sek olacakti ilk cumle athene: will just claim 10 now i am sure..♣2 sharkey: a push yo_yo: yes claim and get on with it xenya: yes indeed -- must have missed something phantoma: nitekim vugraphzkg: mola verildi tez: ♠ atak edilmis.♠ devam edilmis..♠ uzerine kaybi gitmis MolvaM: 10 nolu el de izmir iˆ§in iyi skor wilkinsona: yep, and may go -2 now..♣9 snorris: this is cheep for n-s ralfwil: now only -2 othered1: I would really hate this score at matchpoints. But no catastrophe here fabsayc: now diamond king sharkey: wd deniz_t: hg mustafa ˆ¶zkan iyi akˆ amlar tez: ♣ ile ortagina gececek cakasi alacak sharkey: 3 NT makes if S’s holding is AJ instead of KJ..♣7 idblu: wd...played it safe sybarra2: finding the J of now tez: guvenli oyun bazen en guvensizidir:) wilkinsona: as same kib points out may now wish to have retained spade entry..♣A snorris: does not matter wilkinsona: but the view in clubs is the onlt bet on sybarra: its Imps, just have to make it! sybarra: but probably sweaty palms on that one ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) mdgraham: to be fair, coming in over a strong wilkinsona: I would have thoght Easts high cards club doesn’t have to be a disaster - it just was this time tez: ♠ j tez: 2♣ kontruna irfan 2 deyince nun gercek uzun oldugunu dusundu zafev arigun : hakli olarak, ♣ bu kadar iyi olmak zorunda degil, lakin elinde ♣ top onorlerinden bir olsa yinede biraz kasinir.. 6 nezihk: evet vugraphzkg: mola verildi MolvaM: bu elde 6♣ 6♠ e nazaran daha iyi bir ˆ lem MolvaM: gerˆ§i bu daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰mda her ikisi de oluyordu ama karo ataˆ ˆ‰na kuzeyden 6 pik tehlikede olabilirdi baylind: bu arada dogru taraftan 6cl deklare ettiler. MolvaM: evte MolvaM: herhalde 2 pik aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ 2 renkli el gˆ ¶steriyordu tyavuz: ama 2 imp kaybettiler :) MolvaM: ve kuzey 3 kˆ¶r diyerek yan rengin trefl ve iyi eli olduˆ unu gˆ¶sterdi sanˆ‰rˆ‰m baylind: 2sp altˆ‰nda minor oynuyorlar baylind: evet MolvaM: evet :) ama doˆ ru kontrat oynamanˆ‰n huzuruna erdiler MolvaM : briˆ§te huzurun bedeli 2 imp imiˆ demek ki snorris: not any more.. 8 fabsayc : had a complete count of opponents shape ahollan1 : only if declarer decides for some bizarre reason to hook ♣J othered1: looks like it will work out to one more imp for juice, 12 down with 8 boards to go santyclz: NEXT!.. Q ovncylmz: 5 X ye kor atagi geldi ve -1 kabexnuf: 10 geldi, pik kubu ile ele gelmek daha iyi eccone: ondan ˆ¶nce ovncylmz: direk kor rua ovncylmz: sonra karo kabexnuf: evet ovncylmz: :) ovncylmz: eymen sana "turk bessis" diyelim mi bundan sonra? ovncylmz: messi gibi:) eccone: bence ona genc eymen diyin :P nezihk: karo oynasaydˆ‰ ilginˆ§ son olabilirdi sharkey: squeeze time?.. J on the thin side already ralfwil: Now he will make! yakop: kor donmezse olur artˆ‰k eccone: cˆ…nkˆ… ya majˆ¶r denilmedi 3 diyenede cˆ‰k denizlmez bi tek ihtimal ♣ olur tokay1975: 7 nolu elde stayman yapmˆ‰s zafer 4lu spi ogrenˆ‰nce otomatik 4sp ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 82 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 3♣ c 3 © 9 this/total IMPs Quantum 107 Primabridge 2 67 W 3 110 N -1 50 9 5-3 ♠A 5 6 A J98 8 5-3 K8 3 ♣9 6 5 4 2 ♠8 N ♠Q J 9642 10 7 Q5 3 W E Q10 6 2 AJ3 S ♣ A K Q10 7 3 ♣J ♠ K10 7 3 7 6 K642 5 9754 7 ♣8 9 -100 W: Andonov W 2♣ 3♣ N: Nanev Open S: Mihov N E 1 1♠ p 2♠ p p E: Popov S p p p ¨ ¨ § ª © © § #1 N:: K,A,4,2 #2 E:: J,8,Q,6 #3 W:: A,2, 2, 2 ndemirev: partial for NS but EW are bound to get overboard on this ..1 !..1♠ ndemirev: actually 3nt e-w might make ..p..2♣! ..p..2♠..p..3♣..p..p..p vugraphb1: this is makeable lestergold: the lead didnt hurt.. K.. A henryb: certainly after that lead lestergold: infrangible.. 4.. 2..♣J..♣8..♣Q.. ♣6..♣A..♣2..♠2 lestergold : a steady erosion of the lead how many boards to go ?.. 2 ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ Board NS: EW: o 3♣ c 3 © 9 this/total IMPs Primabridge 2 67 Quantum 107 W 3 110 N -1 50 9 5-3 ♠A 5 6 A J98 8 5-3 K8 3 ♣9 6 5 4 2 ♠8 N ♠Q J 9642 10 7 Q5 3 W E Q10 6 2 AJ3 S ♣ A K Q10 7 3 ♣J ♠ K10 7 3 7 6 K642 5 9754 7 ♣8 9 -100 W: V.Aronov W ¨ © X! p §J,8,Q,5 §4,ª4,©2,§3 ©7,8,3,4 ª7,¨2,©9,ªJ #1 E:: #3 N:: #5 W:: #7 S:: ª8,A,6,3 ªK,©T,ª5,9 §2,¨3,©6,§7 §6,¨J,©K,§T #2 W:: #4 S:: #6 N:: #8 N:: marlowepi: frank wins the beer if S plays as i described -- overtirck instead of one down barbyh: best result wd be 2 cl dbld barbyh: support dbls have their disadvantages marlowepi: right--but how many times do we get to execute a scissors coup? barbyh: there is a trend nothing makes frankaus: my father was a tailor he had coups with scissors all the time :) barbyh: this looks good for 4 sp mariner1: 5 was also -50 so board 8 was a push marlowepi: will S make a TO double? barbyh: doesnt matter mariner1: yes 4♠ seems to be automatic here mariner1: Open is indeed in 4♠ barbyh: is this a saki break? marlowepi: but it matters to me. i have a huge bet in vegas mariner1: Marshall planning to buy a trip to the ¨ - 83 - N: S.Skorchev Closed E: J.Stefanov S: B.Popov N E S 1 1♠ 2♣ 3 p p Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) moon? :) fabsayc : a big debate as to which suit north tokay1975: buna kardan zarar diyoruz phantoma: bu elde zonu asma tehlikesi var mi should open cindy: this looks a little more interesting fabsayc: can be a blind spot not to think of that othered1: count was known by show-out cindy: they needed that snorris: more imps.. sharkey: agree Mike - sometimes it backfires yo_yo: so the Chinese ladies are teaching the men a lesson here :) othered1: 4 (all pass)? shevek: EW certainly found the best spot in the OR sharkey: she listened Nicoleta shevek: :) athene: the australian N-S pair made things hard for the Chinese in the other room yo_yo: a weak 2 in 3rd seat or do the ladies play multi? sharkey: NS can sacrifice in 5 idblu: silence is golden occasionally sybarra2: and didnt in the other room it appears josj: 1 overtrick in spite of misguessing ovncylmz: yok olgunlastin artik sen:) vugraphzkg: 2 oyuncu izin mola verdi eccone: hangileri kabexnuf: KG herhalde ovncylmz: a takimi diger masada zonlari oynamamakta direniyor:) vugraphzkg: gˆ…ney ve batˆ‰ eccone: seyircilerimiz kacˆ‰rˆ‰yoruz onlar el yˆ…z yˆ‰kamaa gidince deniz_t: :) vugraphzkg: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ teams_event.php?event=172&stage=368 vugraphzkg: maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰ ve butler sonuˆ§ larˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz eccone: 6♠ te kalˆ‰ndˆ‰ diger masada nezihk: yine 7 eccone: :) tez: sadece 4 eli goruyorsun ..olu o kadar garo:) tez: olur arigun: 1nt acanin bir sekilde rakip ♠ derken ♠ de puani olamdigini ifade edebilmesi okani heyecanlandirirdi... fantazi bu sonu var mi :) MolvaM: yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran beklenmedik bir 12 imp kazandˆ‰ tokay1975: bencede:)) tez: eger yaklasik esit olsa pas derdi diye dusuundu tokay1975: firsat gelmisti 4cl yaparken rakip 3he 50serden batacaklardi acaba? yo_yo: the australians might well bid slam here hoping to recoup some losses..1 !..11-15p, 1+!D chessmaste: Another 20/20 eccone: bidaha salmayalˆ‰m kimseyi pls frankaus: W may get excited here..1♠ cindy: i always open 1H fabsayc: relative strength suggests 1♠ to me cindy: firm believer in not distoring shape fabsayc: oh well, we can not agree on everything cindy: true snorris: 5 s sacrifice on adverse vuln snorris: predicting 4 ♠ -1 on this one snorris: no not after 2 s panja : this is an interesting hand...4 ♠ could make if played carefully.. snorris: 3 ♣ or 3 ralfwil: and even with 3-1 in you will make 10 tricks. (no entry on N) ralfwil: another 3nt on EW? ahollan1 : 16+ unbal, either 17+ or 18+ bal depending upon 1N range othered1: ♣ systems sometimes have problems with 3-suiters santyclz: With a lead the initial play comes from e and makes finding the J much tougher. akgun: 2d 23+ ovncylmz: aydogdu ciftine gelen eller durgunlasti :) aksiyonlar azaldi son boardlarda:) eccone: 4 mˆ… paˆ am MolvaM: yoksa 1 pik mi? eccone: 4 ˆ… terci ederim vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 riyilikci: dˆ…zeltiyorum gelecek devre baska mac yayinlanacak ve bu devre sonuclarina gˆ¶re seˆ§ ilecek vugraphzkg: takˆ‰m kadrolarˆ‰ ve konvansyon kartlarˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz riyilikci: 8 bord sonunda Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran-Zabuno ˆ lu 3-40 koksoy: pasam 8 -4 ellerle kendi kozunu oynamama konvansiyonu yazˆ‰lmˆ‰s 4pik 1 olmus MolvaM: 4. bordda tokay1975: ben olsam neler solerdi salvoya fazla bisey demiyor tez: caka ile 5l♠ batiyor © © © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © © ¨ © © ¨ - 84 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) barbyh: not if he bw’s..2♣! marlowepi: rats, looks like i have to keep working for a living cindy: you have robinson on your side sharkey: mundane 4♠ here ralfwil: but real suits NOT 10987 xenya: what about 6♣? b_eymen: dbl MolvaM: bence 4 eccone: ˆ¶hmm MolvaM: bu herhalde pikler demek ovncylmz: 5+♠ olabilir mi? kaplan inversion? ovncylmz: gelene 4H diycek herhalde vugraphzkg : 5artˆ‰ sp die alert etti north guneyin alertu kacˆ‰rmˆ‰sˆ‰m ozur MolvaM: mesela ortakta Kx AKQxx Axx xxx olamazmˆ‰ eccone: bir 6♣ daha nezihk: evet hastaneye gitme sˆ‰rasˆ‰ zafere geldi yusufb: tayfun ufuk ciftinede maˆ allah her el 1 ♣ acˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ geliyo tokay1975: 1dia 1h 1sp demis zorlu 03 kart sp demekmis ama bu yinede konusmaya mecbur diil tokay1975: bu el yusufb: aynˆ‰ konuˆ ma masadada olmuˆ mert sizi calˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰rmayamˆ‰ geldik demiˆ :) riyilikci: dbl=5-7p MolvaM: rakip ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰rˆ‰rken tˆ…rkiye ˆ ampiyonu olmak gˆ…zel bir hobi cindy: i dont wanna see it.. ! cindy: hey 2N i kinda like it marlowepi: if i had bet "Don’t Pass" instead of Double, i would be collecting fabsayc: move the spade 10 to hearts, i open 1 idblu: ge Cindy, Martin :) snorris: now south will not play on a doubble finesse wilkinsona: on 6 Women found a five diamond sac vs 4 spaes OR snorris: d ? ralfwil: there are two books, written by Kelsey Killing defence and More killing defence. lead? othered1: and making on stiff fabsayc: the singleton lead not good bg: single dia lead goodbye! ahollan1: ALL systems have trouble good 3suiters othered1: wonder what double is? ahollan1: even if playing a version of Roman 2 idblu: +’ive? santyclz: Except Roman ♣. © ¨ © ¨ ¨ - 85 - ahollan1: my bet RDBL=5-8 bal idblu: n/s going to bid ’s all the way up ahollan1: or maybe ANY 5-18 ahollan1: 5-8 ahollan1: i’ve never seen DBL of strong ♣ used © to show single-suited hand idblu: this looks like the place othered1: I have, but not a specific suit santyclz: SuperCRaSh can, some reverse the x and 1nt bids. idblu: in 6♠ will have to guess the doubleton A ¨ ahollan1: i don’t get it -- doesn’t help partner compete, doesn’t have ANY preemptive value sybarra2: yes sybarra2: he even ducked the akgun: 2h 4+any ogoksel: part skor ♣ yada eli eccone: olabilir MolvaM: ahmet kˆ¶ker uygun ele ˆ lemi kaˆ§ˆ‰ © © rmak istemiyor dadim: 1 pik araya giriˆ i boardu biraz karˆ‰ˆ tˆ ‰rabilir arigun: irfan tarafindan cok iyi bir slam tokay1975: 4te bˆ le kalabilirler 2nt acisindan sonra tokay1975: pardon 5 MolvaM: uzun taraftan atak ederek bulunan ˆ§ akalara ˆ§ok sˆ‰k rastlamˆ‰yoruz tez: 3 =herhangi bir renk tek..4lu tutus..10 12 tez: 3♠ teki soruyor MolvaM : kuzey olsanˆ‰z tekin ne olduˆ unu merak eder miydiniz? tez: bu yari 4/2 phantoma: hayir tokay1975: bence biraz dusunup 4sp dicek thommos: but not if ♠ were 6-1..3 othered1: I like this pass less than the earlier all Q 6-c ount ahollan1: another 5530 hand -- just like the god of probability to tease us this way bg: Club ace is best holding nat trump trick othered1: this will work out for EW, as west will win and play ♣ fabsayc: i agree, spade is shot in dark also othered1: If this were presented as "what was the one card you could lead to let them make it?" ♣A might get lots of votes MolvaM: bu ne? ovncylmz: ben 1 -1nt-2♣ gazilli(ya naturel trefller/ya da 16+ii el) oynaniyor bu sistemde benim bildigim © © © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) MolvaM: pik fitim yok mu demek? yakop: 3♣ 4lˆ… majˆ¶r sorusuymuˆ dediniz ama bunlar dinamik nt oynamˆ‰yolar 8 puanla zon soyleyecek el mi verki arigun : major ataklara 12 oluyor pasifcikisa ya gidiyor yerdeki tez: eller acikken yanlis oynadi diyebiliriz..ama oyuncunun hakli sebepleri vardi koz dam empasi yapmamak icin tez: cok zor kapatmasi frankaus: lights green ..p cindy: i like it cindy: hey fred fabsayc: welcome fred wilkinsona: got to bid em first mcarroll: so 4♠ makes snorris: now this is smart!! werge: 1 ♠...??? mpny: Malinowski - Bakshi probably think they are ahead athene: hard to bid 5 over 5 when neither player has a stiff in opps’ suit jaapfr: a dull 4 +1 time for coffee xenya: the ♠ return by N at the end was a mistake josj: isn’t 20/20 a type of cricket match, Mark? ovncylmz: 10lu pik kritik son derece b_eymen: batˆ‰nˆ‰n eliyle 1 nt dememek lazˆ ‰m eccone: ilginc bi dbl ogoksel: 1NT tercih ederdim konuˆ acak isem ovncylmz : rdbl minorlerin birine cakiyoruz demektir :) vugraphzkg: pikte onor gibi bisey olabilirim duyamadˆ‰m MolvaM: bu zon durumunda baraj yeme sorunu yok. dolayˆ‰sˆ‰ ile deklareyi dolaˆ tˆ‰rmak makul olabilir nezihk : 3 D ya karˆ ˆ‰ 3 H part skor mˆ… cadelesi var vahaboglu: Zabunoˆ lu nun 7 no lu bordda grand ˆ ilem diyeceˆ ini tahmin ediyorum MolvaM: mumcuˆ lu pas geˆ§erek en az 5-6 puanˆ ‰ olduˆ unu gˆ¶sterdi mariner1 : 2N shows both minors so 3 is a forcing cue..p snorris: might end in 2 ♠ d! wilkinsona: Taka take the lead with the 3NT make idblu: a slight overbid bg: EW part score either major NS 4 dia sybarra: welcome to Ed Shapiro othered1: hi, all ©¨ © ¨ eccone: her ataga her taraftan 12 eccone: 2♠ aˆ§ˆ‰lmamasˆ‰ ilginˆ§ vahaboglu: tarz olarak derler riyilikci: diˆ er maˆ§ canlˆ‰ skor http://clubs.vugraph.com /tbricfed/teams_match.php?match=10100 barbyh: aces and spaces..p cindy: N not going along with it cindy: what up with N not bidding ? cindy: it makes my skin crawl to see 1S and then 2H here sharkey: dont think so Snorri :) snorris: no ♠ bid in north...strange snorris: 3 d is ok -1 thommos: hi Ed bg: Hi ED yo_yo: the men can blame jet lag i suppose b_eymen: 2♠ all pas vugraphzkg: kuzey oyuncusu dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor ovncylmz: 1♣ pass 1nt X ile baslansa ovncylmz: enteresan yerlere gidilebilirdi akgun: 3d-3h-3nt herkes pas sanirim nezihk: 4-1 pik olduˆ u iˆ§in 4 pikde zorlanacaˆ ˆ ‰nˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yorum, ˆ¶zellikle karo ataˆ ˆ ‰ndan sonra tokay1975: 2cl dialari gosterdi tokay1975: 3diada serbest gayet iyi nezihk: kuzey bˆ‰rakmaz eccone: 2 xfermi oluyo diye dsˆ…nˆ…yordutr heralde MolvaM: 2pik az deˆ il mi? tez: 4 =neydi unuttum.ne halin varsa gor:) werge: Here again - the double-circus over 1 NT..♣J sharkey: Dbl Take Out I think yo_yo: words fail me shevek: assume we skipped some bids on the way... yo_yo: that doesnt look like a vulnerable 5 to me chessmaste: A short one yo_yo: isnt it something to do with eyesight? josj: that’s what I thought too,yes :) chessmaste: That’s Vision Express eccone: 1♠ limˆ te sanˆ‰rˆ‰m eccone: veya 2 nezihk: nasˆ‰l bir ˆ ey bu hastane dedi herhalde vugraphzkg: ˆ rfan dohan 3h korden davet etti dedi tokay1975: muhtemel belki 3hu limit el h ler sandi yusufb: zaten iˆ ler kotu gidince masada bolede bi espri olmaz yuzler asˆ‰lˆ‰r:) ¨ © © ¨ ¨ - 86 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) cindy: ugh..♣8 marlowepi: we have all seen worse 2NT bids. we just try to forget the fact frankaus: 5 X will be not a lot of fun idblu: this board caused some discussion in the OR....whether to open 1 or 1♠ snorris: plays much better in north snorris: well done n-s idblu: Hi Ed :) cindy: dangerous othered1: Hi, Ian; hi, Bruce! wygbe1: yikes mcarroll: so an even duller 3 ? ovncylmz : 1karo daha iyi oldu masa sagligi acisindan b_eymen: 1♣ pas 1nt ye pas derdi muhtemelen atˆ‰ eccone: dbl yerine mantˆ‰klˆ‰ ogoksel: 1♠ max 16 puan olmalˆ‰ arigun: uygun 8 love alabilecek nezihk: single karo ile birlikte ˆ§ok iyi yakop: bu kontr iˆ i kolaylaˆ tˆ‰rˆ‰r iki taraf iˆ§ inde zafer ˆ imdi ortakta kayˆ‰p kor puanˆ‰ yok diye ˆ ileme gedeek tez: kozlar 3/2 ise ak koz ceker dursun efendi dedigimiz alici kozu disarda birakir ve oyunu yapardi tez: den davet anladi irfan vugraphzkg: Zafer Senguler ise tekim var dedi tokay1975: cunku bu elle 3h singleton gosteriyosa tutusla dusunmesi bile cok makul diildi tez: 3 un den davet oldugundan emin olsa pasta diyebilirdi:) tokay1975: ama yinede irfan cok tecrubeli 4h diyip sigortasini yapti tokay1975: sigorta yapti emin diildi tez: brawo tokay..buna sigorta deniyor:) tokay1975: hocam sendende bunu duydum ya gozum acik gitmem artik:))) tez: nafiz td cagirmistir MolvaM: bu durumda TD ˆ§aˆ ˆ‰rˆ‰p rakiplerin tam anlaˆ amadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§n 5♠ e ˆ§ˆ‰kmalarˆ ‰ talep edilebilir mi? tokay1975: bu durum stresli finallerde sˆ‰k olur unutrsunuz ve tek dusundugunuz nsil sigorta yaparim olur riyilikci: :) tez: cunku 3 un yapay oldugunu bilsem 3 e dbl derdim diyecek tokay1975: ama art niyet yok bence tokay1975: cok olagan bi durum MolvaM : stresli finale gelebilsek o dediˆ ini ¨ © © ¨ © © © © - 87 - © yapacaˆ ˆ‰z ama... vugraphzkg: Nafiz ve Zafer perde arkadaslarˆ‰ tokay1975: hehee sharkey: OR N opened 3♠ .....♣Q wilkinsona: still time... snorris: 10 tricks mcarroll: yes wilkinsona: pretty good books as well snorris: very good snorris: no double.. well cindy: 3♠ there would ask for stop right ? cindy: but thats dangerous because gives them a chance to dbl for spade lead idblu: S doesn’t want to push them to 6♠ sybarra2: if the play is accurate chessmaste: If declarer makes this we will have a tie eccone: ama knusmamak en iyisi sanˆ‰rˆ‰m arigun: defans ♠ oynamakta gecikirse belki 9 deniz_t: bu el iˆ§erde 3 nt oynanacak diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ …nˆ…yorum. tokay1975: evet nezihk: 4 karo da yaparlar trefli tahsil edemiyecekler nezihk: bana da enteresan geldi yakop: bu eli iyi konuˆ madˆ‰ paksoy tokay1975: ozgur unuttu sistemi MolvaM: her 2 masa da aynˆ‰ konvansiyonu oynuyor demek ki cindy: why did he give em fielders choice..♣5 idblu: I like 1 cindy: i just cant stand to distort shape im a broken record fabsayc: there are no 58 foot snakes in this game snorris: now!! sharkey: only has 7 of them :) sharkey: NV cindy: chance for small gain here ralfwil: he is one of my favourites snorris: with 5 tricks in ♠ + ace.. werge: I repeat - what is 1 ♠? marlowepi: yes, with this shape and poor spade spots irwinbo: is that a three spade bid for all of you? thommos: I tend to bid my stoppers idblu: I would assume...bid the one u have othered1: Mustn’t east overtake? othered1: no, guess it’s safe bg: he should K cannot be a tripeton bg: ripleton bg: tripleton:)) sybarra: :) sybarra: 3rd time’s a charm © © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) bg: starting typing course next wek sybarra: but I like ripleton bg: week othered1: west is thinking that east might be the ¨ one void in sharkey: well - the fast lane ahollan1: i wonder if 3 -DBL would have been takeout or balanced hand santyclz: Gn Shirley. sybarra2: gn Santy and all sybarra2: these long days are killing me b_eymen: oyun gˆ…cleri yok b_eymen: minˆ¶r gelirse ˆ¶nˆ…ne onu uyandˆ‰r ˆ‰rdˆ‰ ovncylmz: ben katilmiyorum buna ovncylmz: 23puanla bunu 4 oynayanlar cikar:) MolvaM: bence 3 biraz tutucu oldu nezihk: aksi takdirde kore karo gidiyor tokay1975: 2nt 3 cle trnsferdi MolvaM: ˆ¶zgˆ…r hariˆ§ :) MolvaM: 5 imp daha snorris: not a bid of your liking.. mine neither..♠ 8 idblu: not I...2 1/2 ♠ here cindy: 1/2 trick short for me but i dont hate it idblu: don’t hate it...but NV I go for the 2♠ sybarra : I am heading out (actually to bed) breakfast meeting not my thing, so early day tomorrow cindy: i right behind you shirley cindy: that didnt sound right sybarra: Ed can do the job for both of us :) othered1: Bye Shirley! othered1: Bye, Cindy! sybarra: gn guys, cu tomorrow cindy: night shirley :) thommos: Bye Shirley and Cindy idblu: gn Shirley :) sleep well cindy: night everyone :) bg: nite Shirley idblu: gn Cindy :) thommos: Only 8 tricks sharkey: View pd’s 15-17 NT think west’s pass too conservative ralfwil: thats pardonable - jet lag werge: Depends on the ♠-suit behaving athene: it does look a bit aggressive :) roswolf: exciting josj: with 3-3, she might yo_yo: i wonder why no 1NT rebid bye east b_eymen: :) ovncylmz: :) © © © © b_eymen: zon durumu tehlikeli vugraphzkg: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ teams_event.php?event=172&stage=368 sonuˆ§ larla ilgili adres /link/url b_eymen: bence katˆ‰l nezihk: 3nt +2 eccone: gˆ…jney hˆ‰zlˆ‰ca derse der ama ♠ tekken 3 demek fazla olur gibi nezihk: bravo yusuf barbyh: depends whose side youre on..♠A idblu: and no time to find a 9th thommos: a light opener by S Fav in 3rd seat ahollan1 : agree -- Precision players do Pass many more 6 counts than others, but this hand has so much potential if partner has -- and 2♠ rebid is easy otherwise othered1: nice non-double by south othered1: Guess I missed that. ralfwil: 6♣ needs a 3-3- split in ♠ but it is so wygbe1: strange to have a bidding misunderstanding on this rather common sequence mcarroll: N will not be pleased xenya: some misunderstanding no doubt ovncylmz: farkindayim ama gencim iste cok:) eccone: bencede deniz_t: hˆ‰zlˆ‰ca denmez kanˆ‰mca eccone: 3 oynanmaz o halde :) tuppermet: kontratˆ‰ tehlikeye sokacak bir atak riyilikci: Bodrum takˆ‰mˆ‰ daha tecrˆ…beli bir takˆ‰m, TBF turnuvalarnda genelde gˆ¶rebiliyoruz, ˆ stanbul-1 takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰ eleyerek gelen Kuˆ adasˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰ ise biraz daha yeni yˆ…zler bana gˆ¶re kactigi icin evet aksi takdirde zafer arigun: tarafindan ♠ pasi na ihtiyac vardi lakin 3 e dbl gelince o da belli oldu tokay1975: evet 2sp acisi otomatikti ama diger elinde 2cl acmamasi icin cok sebeb yoktu 4asla exerdar: 4pike atak? eccone: :) tez: 3 nt deseler 1 fazla yapacaklardi riyilikci: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams _round.php?round=1409 tez: 1♠ 2 5 2♣=10 el.. tez: olma sansi heralde %1 i gecmez yakop: buyuk el zaferdeyse dun kacˆ‰rdˆ‰klarˆ ‰nˆ‰n acˆ‰sˆ‰nˆ‰ cˆ‰karˆ‰r o elde:)= b4 they bid 4♠..♠6 cindy: ya gotta bid frankaus: looks like international dialling wilkinsona: maybe has some spades mixed up with his hearts sharkey: lol © © © © ¨ ¨ - 88 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) wilkinsona: well 4 hearts may be close snorris: -2 at least snorris: so why not double in south snorris: 3 is -2 too sharkey: 3 NT could easily be a make and pls ralfwil: low santyclz: Undid, to x. othered1: Doesn’t this make? caitlin: with KQTx in a major, I see no reason for ¨ © S to pass fabsayc: uppercut to beat still ahollan1: right Caitlan -- even playing precision we think 1N is automatic othered1: really? santyclz: I must be missing something, I don’t see how to beat it. othered1: nor do I fabsayc: three rounds of clubs, then what? othered1: low ? ahollan1: of course, 1N will probably kill the chance for South to enter -790 othered1: you do want to start low from hand, no? othered1: given the double fabsayc: so low diamond to king? ahollan1: fly ♠A, 3 rounds of ♣, ? ahollan1: don’t pull trump at all athene: 4 at most for me, given the vul :) yakop: 2 pik acmamasˆ‰ iˆ§in bir sebep yok arigun: noooldu arkadaslar, 1nt oynaniyor diye birsey yazmiyormuyuz yorum filan yokmu ? alistiniz 7-8 oynanmasina MolvaM: bu arada 3.lˆ…k maˆ§ˆ‰ sonuˆ§larˆ‰n ˆ‰ da merak etmiyor deˆ iliz tabii. acaba bilgi var mˆ‰? barbyh: big number..♠3 marlowepi : this is what i call "justice being served in an unjust way". when you make a bid like 2NT, you are BEGGING the universe to find a creative way to punish you sharkey : it was a mundane 4 ♠ but I hadn’t counted on N not bidding... snorris: or as I sometimes do divide them in two stacks!! wilkinsona: the turn of NS to win the auction akgun: 9 love kolay eccone: EWET eccone: gˆ…neyde 5 li♠ olmadˆ‰gˆ‰ biliniyormu? MolvaM: evet ayrˆ‰ca 3 kˆ¶r de az :) MolvaM: yoksa yarˆ‰ finalde yenilenin dostu olmuyor mu? tez: vale atagindan sonra yerdeki 9lu 4 kart ¨ © ¨ © - 89 - ¨ © u gorunce insan tuhaflasiyor:) riyilikci: ilk devre sonunda Valentino ˆ§ekildi, Yˆ ‰lankˆ‰ran 3. oldu chessmaste: You often find on a 4-3 fit that leaving trumps alone is best..♣4 josj: yes, let the opps do your work josj: good idea by all means... b_eymen: farkˆ‰ndayˆ‰m akgun: bilinmiyor eccone: iyi atak eccone: pik eccone: ortaga cˆ‰kma mantˆ‰klˆ‰ batˆ‰nˆ ‰n eliyle akgun: 5s 2h olsa 3s derdi sanirim arigun: 10 veya 11 love olacak dekleranin ♠ oynayisina gore nezihk: 3. karoya kor defos ederek kontratˆ‰ yapabilir, boylelikle kor kuplarˆ‰nˆ‰ yapacak cindy: i like it better than dbl..♠4 frankaus: 1100 our access numbet for intrnational calls eccone: bellide ollmaz aslˆ‰nda deniz_t: olabilir benim dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ncem kiˆ iseldi sadece bekleyip gˆ¶receˆ iz eymen kardeˆ im:) tokay1975: cok muhtemel denilir diger odada henryb: for whom?.. 2 bg: 9 tricks next sharkey: I must admit I wud have raised on the W hand eccone: ˆ¶yle olmalˆ‰ tabi eccone: kuzzeyin kˆ¶rˆ… 6 lˆ‰ysa eccone: 4 mu dder bidaha yakop: acmadˆ‰ madem ˆ ilem daveti yapmalˆ ‰ydˆ‰ exerdar: 2pikde kaptˆ‰rsa batmasˆ‰ zor artˆ‰ k tokay1975: 3nt vahaboglu: evet her gˆ…n bir 7 vardˆ‰r nasˆ‰l olsa MolvaM: ok teˆ ekkˆ…r. ve tebrikler yˆ‰lankˆ‰ ran tez: 3/4 luk maclari dunyanin en zevksiz maclaridir..bitsede gitsek dersin hep..genellikle ilk yarida kim kazanirsa digeri cekilir tez: onceden anlasirsiniz hep othered1: push. 7 to go..♣3 werge: Show-up squeeze against Souht now yo_yo: 2 is pushing it for me akgun: orasi ufo:) eccone: :) eccone: karˆ‰sˆ‰k buralar eccone: kritik © ¨ ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) eccone: :) akgun: hemde ne:) tez: okayin eliyle dbl yada 4 © bence mantikli seceneklerden biri tez: ortakta tek pik varken yapariz diyor bazi seyirciler...ortak kendi elindeki tek ♠ i goruyor..onun eliyle ben konusamam tez: batinin eliyle 4 derdim diyor..ona cevap tyavuz: gˆ¶khan okay da tek pik olduˆ undan emin olamadˆ‰ sanˆ‰rˆ‰m ogoksel: hatta yazˆ‰ tura yoluna bile gitmek isteyenler oluyor bu durumda:) sharkey: I wudnt have considered either VUL i think..♠K athene: it will have gone something like P P P 2 ♣ 2 3♣ 3 3♠ 4 perhaps yo_yo: no i take that back, even 2 is out for me tez: nafiz salvo kucuk apel ters sayi oynuyorlar tokay1975: h cˆ‰kˆ‰sˆ‰na 4sp oluyordu vahaboglu: 4 aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰nca kaliteli 7 li veya 8 lidir diye baraja devam etti wilkinsona: this gives the defence a chance.. T ralfwil: Here is one of the reasons that I prefer to bid as soon as possible. Not balancing wilkinsona: likely x was take out santyclz: I’m not sure taking the ♠ finesse is right, but it certainly makes the hand easier to play. eccone: ya 9 koymak iyi eccone: herzaman deniz_t: :) yakop: valla bunlar bizden de kotu ˆ ilem konuˆ uyolar:) eccone: 2. bordun etkileri devam ediyor gibi yakop: burada problem ˆ urdan kaynaklanˆ‰yo biri biˆ ey yapˆ‰yo oteki dogru kabul ediyo eccone: kritik soru ˆ u 3 dbl a pas ne demek? yakop: iki yeni ˆ§ift olsa ortak nasˆ‰l olsa biˆ ey anlamamˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰r deyip ˆ ilem soyleniyo eccone: ahah arigun: halen 3nt yi gecmek istemiyorum demek yakop: anlaˆ mˆ‰ˆ ekiplerin en buyuk problemi kabak ˆ ilemleri diyememk eccone: hmm o halde 4 e 4♠ denilebilir mi? arigun: ancak slami iyi yapan 1d daki uyum, irfan hakli olarak ortaginda tek varken K kayip deger olarak dusunuyor yakop : kabak derken 33 puan anlamayˆ‰n soylenebilecekler tez: ♠ rua ucmali.. dam vale icerde olmali..♣ empas gecmeli.. empas gecmeli riyilikci: turnuva hakkˆ‰nda bˆ…tˆ…n bilgiler © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © ¨ © © © ¨ © www.tbricfed.org.tr koksoy: bence o boardda 5 karo tam +600 cok iyi skor arigun: belki guzel bir kart oyunu veya defans vardir :) tez: yazi turayi hakemler kabul etse oyuncular razi olur MolvaM: 4kˆ¶r batˆ‰yordu ama tayfun 5karo yapabileceˆ ini umdu cindy: israek..♠5 snorris: maybe bg: parties parties if I dont get to bed early I’m going home sybarra2: gn all tokay1975: eskiden vardi ole bir soz anlamiyosan pas deme kim demˆ s bilmiyorum ama wilkinsona: not taken that chance..♠9 marlowepi: the real question is....how often if you bid only 2S will pd pass & u miss a game u wanna be in. not vulnerable that is a bigger risk irwinbo: but in precision, if you don’t open one club, it is an easy 3s bid wilkinsona: just seems on the finesse really idblu: and the ♣ for 1 loser chessmaste: Declarer already has a clue - the first two tricks eccone: ˆ imdi ♠ in 3-3 oldugu belli oldu riyilikci: Bˆ¶yle uzun turnuvalarda kondˆ…syon, konsantrasyon ve heyecan, briˆ§ bilgisinin ˆ¶nˆ… ne bile geˆ§ebilmekte tez: 9 el icin yada ♣ empasindan dogru olani secmelisiniz tez: emin olsada o diyemez bence 4 tokay1975: kabus gibidir gercekten salonda 2 masa olur bi masada 70 seyirci 3nculuk maci oynanan masada sadece 4kisi MolvaM: oysa onu bile bulamayanlar var. vugraf kˆ¶ˆ elerinde yorumculuk yaparak avunmak zorundalar tez : yilankiran takimi son 3 senede hep yari finalde elendi.3luk maci yapti tokay1975: :) riyilikci: ikisinde de seyirci yoktu bu sefer idblu: :).. 7 shevek: it might happen that Ish lost his patience yo_yo : presumably delmonte has had some success with such bids in the past yo_yo: or he wouldnt be where he is today athene: i would bet large amounts he didn’t open 5 :) shevek: he is a very fast player and I think the tempo of the match didn’t suit him © © © ¨ - 90 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) yo_yo: operator can you confirm the bidding please sharkey: must have - especially since W didnt consider raising yo_yo: so you think he lost his rag because of the bidding? yo_yo: because of the slow play? sharkey: perhaps Operator only inserted the final bid? athene : there are lots of plausible auctions ending in 5 by east b_eymen: q♠ nezihk: artˆ‰k yapamayacak tokay1975: cl oynarsa simdi 3 iceri ile kurtulur cindy: israel.. 8 ralfwil: He didn´·t herar me. He is far away from me and the window closed santyclz: As PO Sundelin says, you can’t beat it, but that doesn’t mean declarer will make it. yo_yo: are we allowed to say "rag" in England? wygbe1: luckily they are not vul, so will only cost about 6 imps arigun: partaj gorunce sonunda ♠ pasindan korkmaz heralde eccone: ♣ cˆ‰kˆ‰lsa iyi eccone: ama onada batmˆ‰yor koksoy: bizde dinleniyoruz cecengiz 1 batˆ‰ yor iste arigun: buyuk ellerde alisveris oluyordiger oda 5.boardi 6 oynadi frankaus: *number.. 3 fabsayc: suit preference spade lead thommos: squeeze is now possible ralfwil: hear.. athene: only on fridays yo_yo: Prince Harry got ticked off for that word shevek: Friday the 13 athene: he is hoping for a trump endplay against south athene: but there’s no chance athene: south has two trump tricks and that’s the end of it :) athene: he would need to find south with four spades and the last club; then he could perhaps ruff club, cash three spades, ruff spade, then exit with 9 sharkey: I think the actual bidding may have been something along the lines you outlined earlier Will xenya: which is strange sharkey: Agree - and here N had FOUR chances to bid.. 4 ¨ © ¨ © ¨ © - 91 - idblu: had to throw a ♠ from dummy riyilikci: kalan 16 takˆ‰mˆ‰n ˆ¶nemli bir kˆ‰ smˆ‰ yorgunluk ve dikkat daˆ ˆ‰lmasˆ‰ belirtileri gˆ¶steriyor tyavuz: nasˆ‰l yani box ˆ‰nda 4 yokmu MolvaM: tayfun un sadece 2 pik demesi yavaˆ latt ˆ‰. belki baraj niyetine 3 pik dese idi okay 4 demek zorunda kalacaktˆ‰ tokay1975: gecen sene biz oynadik yˆ‰lankˆ‰ ranla yendiler bi devrede cekildik..♣2 cindy: there are many excellent players on both sides of the argument.. 3 sharkey: i’ve been informed the NT range of the Chainese pair is 14-16 tez: vale super mariner1: I looked away and Marshall places a new bet to the moon here :).. 6 idblu: nice def.... snorris: or must be ahollan1: hehe -- it can’t be beat, but it may go down ahollan1: wow -- great result for Japan in Open Room nezihk: evet vugraphzkg: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ teams_event.php?event=172&stage=368 sengulerz: iyi bir ˆ lem ama hiˆ§ ilgileri olmadˆ ‰ tokay1975: yuzde50 biraz iyi 6 solda dxx cl ve h rua varken yatirma sansida var As aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰na batˆ‰yor vahaboglu: tez: ortakta tek degil diye dusundu salvo eccone: partnerlik arawsˆ‰nda nekadar fazla ˆ ablon olursa o partnerlik okadar baˆ arˆ‰lˆ‰ olur..bence :)..♣7 tokay1975: yuzde 50 den MolvaM: 3♣ de battˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in fazla hasar olmayacak. belki 1 imp tyavuz : ♣ ruayˆ‰ can sˆ‰kˆ‰ntˆ‰sndan koydu herhalde MolvaM: 4-1 daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰ma 4kˆ¶r yapmasˆ‰ kolay mˆ‰dˆ‰r peki? marlowepi: should we mention that spoades have to break?..♠7 marlowepi: maybe mariner’s protege+ cindy: hee hee wilkinsona: yep, ok not so great, but there has been worse ralfwil: now he can see the problem with winning the first ! chessmaste: The heart was a mistake I think she may go down now © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ © © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) roswolf: this should go off i think chessmaste: maybe better to get rid of dummy’s wilkinsona: declarer plating well to hold this to - last spade on the diamonds b_eymen: tokay1975: evet diaya batar 4sp ahollan1: and lest we forget -- that’s one heck of a 3 bid from West - opposite passed partner and with suspect Q.. 2 fabsayc: but north’s club is a major disappointment.. 9 santyclz: a opening lead. yo_yo: back on track now tokay1975: clide rahatca bilicek idblu: end of the road tho ..♠J cindy: i used to have a protege othered1: nothing really available at any point beyond 8 tricks (famous last words) ralfwil: and now has to play ♠ idblu: pressed the easy button ahollan1: from auction - should guess South to hold doubleton A anyway idblu: seems the only play...should get it right roswolf: really that cant be right chessmaste: Now she is back in business akgun: kor damdan sonra clm +1 tez: ici karariyor oyuncularin.seyirci niye gitsin mutsuz adamin yanina sharkey: ??..♣6 ralfwil: vety bad yo_yo: that was a bit odd sharkey: was that correcundo? xenya: not necessarily -- Jx would do, also you might get some count on the defender’s hands eccone: declaran 3 oynadˆ‰gˆ‰nˆ‰ zannediyo heralde nezihk: ˆ§akˆ‰p karo oynayˆ‰nca problem var, tez: yapariz demedik pasam..deriz dedik:) idblu : has no way to reach the ♣ J even if he guessed it.. J ralfwil: I had tried 3 on E over D thommos: Has to ruff last club and pick the sharkey: undo? eccone: dogunun A ♠ q♠ oynamasˆ‰ karo prf deniz_t: galiba eymen belki de 3 yapmaya ˆ§alˆ ‰ˆ ˆ‰yor olsa gerek:) yusufb: ♣ ve 22 rakipte MolvaM: her iki rakip te 4522 yusufb: j koycak 4 olsun diye tokay1975: empas yapmak lazim 4h insallah yapiyolardir diye wilkinsona: and one chance to defeat this contract.. K ralfwil: but sould have ruffed a before MolvaM: 3.lˆ…k maˆ§ˆ‰ esnasˆ‰nda slon gˆ¶ © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ 2 © ¨ revlileri elektrik sˆ…pˆ…rgesi ile masanˆ‰n altˆ ‰nˆ‰ temizlemeye bile baˆ lˆ‰yor bazan tez: :) tokay1975: bitirinde gidin isimiz varda diyolarmˆ ‰ snorris: right..♣T yo_yo: i seem to remember that delmonte isnt as cool, calm and collected as some idblu: tight game, once again santyclz: Makes 7 if she plays for 3-2 s, but guarentees the contract this way. nezihk: as koyup karoya kor kaˆ§malˆ‰ © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ © © - 92 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 4♠ c 2♠ 10 S S this/total IMPs Quantum 107 Primabridge 7 74 -1 100 4 170 10 6 ♠ Q10 5 2 9 J932 6-7 7 3 6-7 ♣K Q 7 6 ♠K 6 N ♠J 43 Q10 8 K764 W E K J84 962 S ♣10 9 5 4 ♣A J 2 ♠A 9 8 7 6 4 A5 6 A Q10 7 5 6 ♣8 3 6 140 W: Andonov W p p p N: Nanev Open S: Mihov N E p 2♣ p 4♠ p § § ¨ ª ¨ ¨ ª ¨ ¨ ª § © ª ¨ © E: Popov S 1N 2♠ p © ¨ § ª § © ª ª © ª #1 W:: T,Q,A,3 #2 E:: 4,5,Q,2 #3 W:: 4,K,2,8 #4 N:: 3,6,A,4 #5 S:: 5,8, 2, 2 #6 N:: 6,J, 7, 5 #7 S:: Q,K, 5, 9 #8 N:: 3,6,A,8 #9 S:: 7,J, T,J #10 E:: 3,8,K,Q #11 W:: 9,7, 7, 9 #12 S:: A,6, 9, 4 #13 S:: T, T,J,K Walddk3: 14 is the last board Walddk3: Then 32 boards tomorrow lestergold: thx Walddk3: Was 8-71 after 15 boards. Nice recovery by Primabridge..p lestergold: altho there are only thfree ’losers’ on the north south cards. i would have thought that ten WINNERS were a tall order..1N..p..2♣..p..2 ♠..p..4♠..p..p..p..♣T..♣Q..♣A..♣3 lestergold: a significant swing here one way or the other vugraphb1: yes passive defense is necessary lestergold : 4s is a contract almost as thin as twiggy.. 4.. 5 Walddk3: or you Mike.. Q.. 2 lestergold: er em ere not er kwite roland after my © © - 93 - © © diet ill let u know lestergold: of course minor suit honours were lying very badly for declarer..♣4..♣K..♣2..♣8.. 3.. 6.. A.. 4.. 5.. 8..♠2.. 2 roswolf: this should make though ndemirev: 4♠ is a very playable contract ..♣6.. ♣J..♠7..♣5 ndemirev: still could make i think lestergold: one trump lead from east would have set a few challenges vugraphb1: yes and the declarer deals very well with it by now lestergold: and now?.. Q.. K..♠5.. 9.. 3.. 6.. A.. 8.. 7.. J lestergold: kill point Walddk3: I don’t think so Walddk3: He can’t make it even if he ruffs with the queen roswolf: well defeat is likely lestergold: trick short surely lestergold: off..♠T lestergold: even if he ruiffs with q..♠J vugraphb1: yes he used the greater chance roswolf: primabridge going well now..♠3..♠8.. ♠K..♠Q..♣9..♣7.. 7..♠9..♠A..♠6.. 9..♠4.. T.. T.. J.. K vugraphb1: unlucky lestergold: well it was never a great game vugraphb1: very well played but all the cards were badly placed for him ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © ¨ ¨ © © © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 4♠ c 2♠ 10 S S this/total IMPs Primabridge 7 74 Quantum 107 -1 100 4 170 10 6 ♠ Q10 5 2 9 J932 6-7 7 3 6-7 ♣K Q 7 6 ♠K 6 N ♠J 43 Q10 8 K764 W E K J84 962 S ♣10 9 5 4 ♣A J 2 ♠A 9 8 7 6 4 A5 6 A Q10 7 5 6 ♣8 3 6 140 W: V.Aronov W p p N: S.Skorchev Closed E: J.Stefanov S: B.Popov N E S p 1N 2♣ p 2♠ p p ¨ § ¨ ª ¨ ¨ ª ¨ © © ª © #1 W:: 4,3,9,T #3 N:: 6,J,8,5 #5 S:: 5,8, 2, 2 #7 S:: 7,J, T, 6 #9 S:: 5,Q,3,6 #11 N:: 9,K, 9, 8 § © § ª § § ª § ¨ ª © ¨ ª #2 S:: 3,4,K,2 #4 E:: 4,A,T,2 #6 N:: 7,A, 8, 9 #8 N:: Q, 3,7, T #10 W:: K, Q, 7, A #12 S:: A,,, idblu: looks like easy 3N n/s here sharkey: well - nothing boring here ralfwil: In my opinion it´·s much more difficult to read a position after balancing than a stright forward bidding ralfwil: another 4♠ snorris: more 4 ♠ cindy: hi henry henryb: Hi Cindy snorris: 4 ♠ e-w? snorris: difficult thommos: 58 imps traded on 8 boards played mpny: When Hanlon was in with the SA it could no longer be beaten ralfwil: thanks! bg: spec quotes a Joey "next" sybarra: and mr. "next" is in the OR werge: But ©-intermediates have gone, small © is ok for 12th trick ralfwil: 10 boards and 9 games and one slam! mcarroll : Yes - no mere partscores for this computer xenya : and yet another game for NS here -admittedly a lucky one ralfwil: only on a ♣ finess, so I have seen worse xenya: but perfectly reasonable of course xenya: true Ralf xenya: there are some communication problems though ahollan1: right - only chance is for somebody to hold doubleton A ahollan1: another uncomfortable hand for Precision yo_yo: nicely done Liu roswolf: 7 board match now b_eymen: sorunsuz bi el daha vugraphzkg: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ teams_event.php?event=172&stage=368 eccone: dip not: 3 nt ♣ Q toplanan elde ♠ e kˆ …cˆ…k konuldugu icin dogru oyun oynanmˆ‰s eccone: ♣ Q ikili degilse kˆ¶r pasˆ‰na yaopabiliyodu vugraphzkg: maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰ ve butler sonuˆ§ larˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz eccone: tabi ♠ i kˆ…cˆ…k kˆ cˆ…k ˆ‰raktˆ‰ klarˆ‰ icin nezihk: kuzey gˆ…ney iˆ§in iyi skor tokay1975: db 3nt yaparken kuzeyin 3h yapmasi riyilikci: bu maˆ§ ˆ¶zelinde konuˆ ursak, sanˆ‰rˆ ‰m ilk 2-3 bod bunlarˆ‰n ˆ…zerine bir Vugraph tedirginliˆ i de vardˆ‰ ama artˆ‰k dˆ…zeldi sanˆ ‰yorum arigun: ancak yinede love olacak, zferdeki muhtemel bir kayip gidecek, zor ancak soylenebilir bir slamdi yakop: bu eldede 14 e a5 var ve de singleton yaramˆ‰yo eccone: bitane daha nezihk: diˆ er oda da 6 Karo oynuyor vugraphzkg: . yakop: 7 no lu el burdur izmir macˆ‰nda 710 olarak egale MolvaM: :) arigun: makina sapitti knock out turnundan sonra :) MolvaM: splinter konvansiyonunu artˆ‰k ˆ ikan gˆ¶sterir ˆ ekilde revize etmek gerek. zaman ayak uydurmakta yarar var MolvaM: nasolsa her el bir ˆ ikan var tez: salvo nun kozlara hemen lari defos etmesi lazim tokay1975: bence 4sp oynanir bu el h cˆ‰kˆ‰sˆ ¨ © ¨ - 94 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) ‰nada olur tez: eger cekilirse tokay1975: 3nt dia cˆ‰kˆ‰lmassa oluyor ama icerde 52 ye 4sp oynamislar MolvaM: 5-2 fite gˆ…zel bir zon bulmuˆ nafizsalvo tez: kucuk koysaydi irfan oynanan ya..salvonun donmekten baska sansi olmayacakti mariner1: 2 did play well in Open here.........p mariner1: 1♠ and E used forcing NT probably planning to pass and 2 level call W made cindy: what does S bid after 1D 2C ? snorris: this might be difficult snorris: after 3♣ what to bid in north? panja: E’s 2!M opening isn’t very mush weaker than some of his 1 openings.. panja: 2 even panja: still, should S overcall 2Nt or 3♣? or pass? wilkinsona: slammy perhaps thommos: yes, but maybe West could of played a ♠ earlier ralfwil: looks like a 4♠ ahollan1: and the initial romp is now just an 8 imp difference xenya : declarer can’t draw all trumps before taking the finesse athene: another 24 count 3nt for N-S here, the same as a momet ago athene: *moment santyclz: Ugly 6♣s, with 1 redeaming feature. eccone: sounsuˆ‰z bi board daha akgun: suprizlerle dolu olabilir aruf: sorunlarˆ‰ bizler yaratˆ‰rˆ‰z biliyorsun Eymen :) eccone: sizkimsiniz? eccone: :) aruf: yani insanlar eccone: dogru nezihk: 3 nt var, deklere edilirse nezihk: benim tanˆ‰dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰m toros pass geˆ§ er tokay1975: sp cˆ‰kˆ‰lmicagini varsayiyorum riyilikci: oyuncularˆ‰n demek istedim sry eccone: baraj su tutarmˆ‰ acep? tokay1975: evet gercekten cok ustaca ogoksel: sorunsuz bir el daha gibi duruyor..bakal ˆ‰m oyuncular bizi yanˆ‰ltacakmˆ‰? tez: ne farkeder demeyin..cok sey farkeder bu tur kucuk ayrintilar yusufb: ben kimin geride oldugunu anlayamadˆ ‰m oynanan oyuna gore MolvaM: 1nt overcall? ¨ ¨ ¨ - 95 - ¨ thommos: yes ..1N!..14-16 NT othered1: multi on a bad 7-bagger ahollan1: unless playing relays - East rarely gets to show both minors xenya: as the auction hadn’t been too complicated up to that point yusufb : bu elde bile 1 ♠ 2 2 ♠ 4 pas pas gitmiˆ fabsayc: 2 ..p idblu: 3♣ idblu: THEN !3♠, 3 snorris: now.. ralfwil: I have placed one ♣ among the and will bid 2nt panja: and a real problem for North othered1: Here, too, north with a strong balanced hand will h ave auction ahead of him snorris: very nice slam on few points ralfwil: 4 or 5 for me on N wilkinsona: or 1NT snorris: :) irwinbo: only 19 imps in 8 boards action yet to come shevek: chance for Oz to get some imps here ovncylmz: -4 mu -5 mi oldu? eccone: 2 akgun: 4d mi diyecek ovncylmz: evet onu irfan da soyledi bana haklisiniz riyilikci: Yusuf Sohtorik bˆ…yˆ…k olasilikla karo oynamayi daha erken bulmuˆ tur, ama aliˆ kanlik olarak bu tˆ…r durumlarda hesaplarini tekrar gˆ¶zden geˆ§irir nezihk: evet, sengulerz: arkadaˆ lar hemen sitem etmeyin.. biz de bu turnuvada oyuncuyuz.. arada biz de mola verelim vahaboglu: herhalde 2 oynanacak koksoy: zabunoglunun swingi geldi... her iki takˆ‰mˆ‰n lehine birer swing potansiyeli daha var koksoy: 6. board kimin lehine olacagˆ‰ belli degil slem yaptˆ‰rˆ‰labilr tokay1975: batsa bile MolvaM: ˆ imdi 4 piki bulmak daha zor ahollan1: why ugly -- isn’t it just ♠K in the slot? ..2♣! idblu: will most likely play 3N nezihk: bence de eccone: ve bir tane daha tez: 1 2nt 4 .. MolvaM: izmir BBB maˆ§ˆ‰nda yaptˆ‰rˆ‰lmˆ ‰ˆ ¨ © © © ¨ © © © © ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) mariner1: http://www.jcbl.or.jp/game/nec/necfest.html - Tournament site..p cindy: thats a suit you want led idblu: 3n snorris: two 11 counts passing.. sharkey: agree - much easier for S then snorris: got it right fabsayc: no sound bid othered1: There is a case for staying out, but east doesn’t have sound opening tendencies (see board 5) snorris: 4 n-s is more natural ralfwil : at least 2 1 ♣ and a trumph in a ♠ contract werge: Can we stop in 6 now... snorris: 5 a voidwood? werge: 6 is a good practical bid from West now ralfwil: If W bids 4♠ and E 5♣ ralfwil: I prefer the scientific way by cuebids sharkey: Rite now the Chinese women can’t do wrong it looks like othered1: Japan Open has come back quickly. But this dull board will slow things down. othered1: 2♠ positive in , but not ♠ sybarra: 2 sp usually says, I have a better hand if your suit is ’s werge: This is not only on a ♣-finesse - you can only handle 3-3 in ♣ og West being shorter than that - WITH the K sharkey: ♠ lead may set this athene : yes, it’s not totally trivial to bid and make game here b_eymen: bu elleri 2♣le baslamak b_eymen: seviyenin assagˆ‰dan ilerlemesi icin daha iyi eccone: 4 aaz olur mustafaozk: 2nt de dururlar diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ… yorum sengulerz: dbl.. majˆ¶rler demek herhalde yakop: 2 pik acsa 6 demek kolay degil sistemleri el anlatmaya musaitse derler ama bi anlaˆ malarˆ ‰ yoksa sadece gomerek bulurla tokay1975: dogru tabi koksoy: 15. board kesin yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran lehine MolvaM: tahmin edildiˆ i gibi karo oynanamamˆ ‰ˆ vahaboglu: 2 ˆ… ne oynuyorlar vahaboglu: zayˆ‰fsa ideal deˆ ilse de yakˆ‰ndˆ ‰ tez: hah benim eller basladi:) thommos: also 3NT..2♠ © ¨ ¨ © © © © © ahollan1: 1♣=16+ bg: I like using 2 dia as a weak weak major then it is possible to use 2H/S as reasonable suits othered1: that’s an attractive style eccone: ama simdi tam el tarifi olur eccone: 4 eccone: 2♠ eccone: yada 3 nt nezihk: ooooooooooooooooooo arigun: 6♠ oynayacaklar bir solukta yakop: ben artˆ‰k emin degilim:) eccone: belki 6♣ eccone: :) arigun: en sorunsuz el bu olacak bence susurluk kazasi olmazsa eccone: hehe yakop : bu eli rakip karˆ‰ˆ mazsa kolayca 6 derler tokay1975: zaten i yuzde%50 ufakda bi yatirma sansi var fazladan yakop: ama sonuˆ§ ne olacak tez: kavga bordu MolvaM: ama yapan kim bilmiyorum MolvaM: izmirBB yapmˆ‰ˆ 6 trefli ozgull: minˆ¶rler oynamaya mˆ‰? tokay1975: yerde n as MolvaM: ♠ hariˆ§ dengeli daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰m? tez: j dortlu koz yoksa batmaz:) MolvaM: yerden vale daha yaratˆ‰cˆ‰ bence MolvaM: +1 yapabilmek iˆ§in tez: disarda 3 tane var diyen ikramiye alacak:) cindy: (not)..p barbyh: thats pushing it a bit othered1: I think 2♠ is *very* aggressive snorris: but awful lie in snorris: the science prewail werge: This 3 NT looks solid - but might get trouble with 5-3 yo_yo: Paul wont let this go yo_yo: pass? ahollan1: 1N is 1 round force vugraphzkg: -5 MolvaM : doˆ u batˆ‰ elleri 4 kˆ¶r iˆ§in ˆ§ok uygun ama bulabilecekler mi arigun: 2. iddanamedenmi okudun pasam koksoy : evet zor tabii ... 5tane karonun buharlasˆ‰p ucacagˆ‰ kimsenin aklˆ‰na gelmez.. kamera sakasˆ‰ gibi vahaboglu: pass fabsayc: 2nt is off my chart..p npcjpn: 3NT shows 5 . cindy: what lead do you like here henry ? © © © © - 96 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) josj: NT does not play well as N has no entries ovncylmz: ok tesekkurler eccone: gelinebilirse 4 iyi :) MolvaM: okay ♠ fiti arayacak mˆ‰? wilkinsona: Im not sure about that... EW produced © a non forcing sequence after a strong club.. partner was marked with some goodies..p sharkey: I agree with East’s pass - opened in OR wilkinsona: well stay low it seems snorris: no such hights in the bidding;) idblu: 3N by E best mpny: this will be flat werge: Sorry - I was sleeping... santyclz: Need to ruff too, breaks an issue. ahollan1: 1N=17-19 or 18-? again depending upon range of 1N opener [14-16 or 15-17] idblu: looks like a relay sys b_eymen : yane puan cokken yawaˆ yawaˆ , azken agresif konusmak iyi sonuclar verir herzaman b_eymen: 3nt 13 15 4 lˆ… ♠ heralde b_eymen: dengeli b_eymen: tek yok yane nezihk: karo partajˆ‰nˆ‰ deneyecek, olmasaydˆ ‰ pik pasˆ‰yla da yapma ˆ ansˆ‰ vardˆ‰ ogoksel: dekleranˆ‰ olmak istemezdim bu 1nt’ nin mustafaozk: yanlˆ‰ˆ dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nmˆ…ˆ ˆ…m:) ovncylmz: upps nezihk: bravo toros sengulerz: K, 2♣ le uzununu mu yoksa gˆ…cˆ… nˆ… mˆ… sordu.. operatˆ¶r belki bilir tokay1975: eliminasyon yapip ash h cˆ‰karsa sp onotleri ayriktir diye dusunup yapabilir tez: zor bir el tez: defansin ♠ e dokunmamasi lazim relrikas: ama 10 lu yada ihtiyaˆ§ var .ift pas daha guzel tez: acik kart yapilabilir..bence batacak relrikas: ˆ§ift tez: heyecanli bir el vahaboglu: butlerlarˆ‰ kˆ¶tˆ… olur ama maˆ§ˆ ‰ etkilemez yakop: atak koz olacak muhtemel koksoy: uzun zamandˆ‰r minˆ¶rler oynamaya konvansiyonu gˆ¶rmemistim geliyormus demekki koksoy : ve de kazadˆ‰rdˆ‰... 1nt zor kontrat ... 2 kˆ¶re gelmek ise imkansˆ‰z gibi koksoy: 5 trefl +1 egale oldu MolvaM: bu tˆ…t ˆ§ok sayˆ‰da kanlˆ‰ bord olan devrelerden sonra yenilen takˆ‰m oyuncular ˆ‰: "bu tˆ…r eller brici tombalaya ˆ§eviriyor ¨ - 97 - azizim" diyerek iˆ§lerini rahatlatabilirler MolvaM: ben hep ˆ¶yle yaparˆ‰m MolvaM : 1 karo aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ karodan birˆ ey vaadetmiyor MolvaM: dolayˆ‰sˆ‰ ile hala karo ataˆ ˆ‰ olasˆ ‰ ogoksel: 3nt oynarken Axx karo ataˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ 3.turda alˆ‰p atakˆ§ˆ‰yˆ‰ oyun dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰na itmeye yetiyor MolvaM: 3ntye karˆ ˆ‰ tabii cindy: he told em what to lead.. 4 othered1: Does partner know you’re bidding on " the Law" alone? wilkinsona: sure is and may catch a raise othered1: Guess he does. chessmaste: Good point josj: even on a trump lead, this is easy ovncylmz : iste bu 5li major olmayan multi oynayan bir cift:) akgun: batˆ‰ karismadam edemedi eccone: 6♠ bi tek ♣ atagˆ‰na batardˆ‰ deniz_t: herkese selamlar ne mutlu bizlere ki, hep beraber canlˆ‰ yayˆ‰ndayˆ‰z:) eccone: dogu ♣ sqz olurdu eccone: batˆ‰ cˆ‰kuyomus zaten eccone: hicoluru yok :) eccone: selamlar MolvaM: puan az ve daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰m da dˆ…z ovncylmz: 2sp 4+♣ davet elleri oynamak guzel burda sengulerz: ♣ler veya majˆ¶rlermiˆ arigun: ortaginda ♣ leri bilirse yakop: yine karo teki begenmedi tokay1975: bu kadar kotu markalarla bu zona nasil gidilirki zaten hepsi 32 dagilmis mariner1: not sure I would agree with 2N here on a 14 count.. 3 cindy: uhh...what about 1S idblu: me too... sharkey: 11 points and 4333 is not my favorite wilkinsona: but EW pushed to 3 diamonds which may be -1 fabsayc: well double by south presumably t fabsayc: takeout, still very strange thommos: with ♣ 3-3 , should be easy sharkey: shud be... ralfwil: needs only 4-2 or 3-3 in ♣ and K on side werge: Blind spot, but interesting... sharkey: But East has to disregards pd’s overcall athene: west just has to find the spade lead sharkey: Sry - W on lead athene: not impossible with no raise from partner ¨ ¨ © ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) athene: but with two entries in diamonds, it looks normal to try to establish your suit rather than partner’s sharkey: E on lead in OR leading pd’s suit shevek: can’t see making it on any lead athene: true, even on a heart lead, west has time to switch ahollan1: just a delayed Stayman auction ovncylmz: 1h-1nt-2c-3c nin iyisi gibi mustafaozk: kuzey hayatˆ‰ndan memnun olmal ˆ‰ bu board iˆ§in eccone : aslˆ‰nda K olmassa elinde derdi belki veya arastˆ‰rˆ‰rdˆ‰ MolvaM: doˆ ru karar tez: iyi idare ettiler MolvaM: demek ki 3. turda karo oynamamasˆ‰ gerekiyormuˆ defansˆ‰n cindy: yeh i dont like any of the choices really.. 9 idblu: no reason to distort the hand cindy: i dislike 3C the least bg: Ace Dia:)) cindy: does A ask for attitude or count here for n/ s henryb: whatever honor asks for attitude cindy: must ask for attitude werge: I repeat: 6 is... snorris: didnt work very well marlowepi : 5C probably best spot but 3NT makes easily thommos: and the lead shevek: my bet is 12 imps to Oz :) sharkey: EW misdefended OR - E covered when ♠ lead from W sharkey: giving NS 3 ♠ stoppers sharkey: gd lead - top of nothing athene: east can happily duck the ♠Q - that can’t cost yo_yo: the Aussies wont like being beaten be a team of "sheilas" will they? shevek: north played it on a lead sharkey: more difficult to defend in OR as QJx concealed in N’s hand yo_yo: should East cover? sharkey: can’t see why sharkey: just encourage athene: the only reason you might cover here is if you don’t want declarer in dummy athene: but the normal play is to duck yo_yo: i am told it was covered in the other room sharkey: N played the hand in OR making it harder not to cover ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ josj: maybe best for E is to duck K nezihk: ancak defans pik oynarak her iki ˆ ansˆ‰ nˆ‰ kullanmasˆ‰ engelleyebilirdi eccone: evet sengulerz: 109 ♠ sekten gelince 3 de bir sorun yok tokay1975: 6dia sp cakˆ‰cak yapˆ‰cak daha iyi bi oyun varmˆ‰ yakop: top bircanda artˆ‰k tokay1975: hu cˆ‰ktˆ‰gˆ‰nda kuzey ufak sp geliyo rua alip sp simdi valemi koysun olmaz o iyi diil marlowepi: playing devil’s advocate, 2NT is a better bid than 5NT.. T cindy: i like 1N better than 1♠ panja: I guess ♠ finesse next.. ralfwil: N has to finess over E to keep entrancen to table wilkinsona: well i dont go along with that werge: I vote for 140 - I know Paul! roswolf: i am informed by a spec that the chinese ladies would win the split tie chessmaste : +170 will give Japan a 1IMP cushion josj: but then a cross-ruff will result ovncylmz: dbllansa cok kotu:) ogoksel: trefler ˆ§ekilip pik oynanˆ‰r sanˆ‰rˆ ‰m ovncylmz: bu arada bu grupta sabahki macta zabunoglu sevile 20-10 yenilmis ovncylmz: a takimi da 23-7 nakkasa yenilmis eccone : ♣ lere dogu bˆ…yˆ…k bˆ…yˆ…k verirse pik oynanˆ‰r eccone: buralar bˆ¶yle cˆ¶zlˆ…yo nezihk: selam yakop: sizce nerde durur tez: vale atak edecek koksoy: son borda kadar heyacan sˆ…recek gibi.. vahaboglu: 6 lˆ¶vesi var tokay1975: 6 eli alip gider tokay1975: 2nci hu caktirabilir defans ama oyun sonunda snorris: right..♣3 ahollan1: ok -- still bad glasses -- 12 imp difference [mea maxima culpa] othered1: They are in 2♠ in the open room. The non-prremptor bought the hand a level lower there twcho: this bd was one played in the semi between Australia and China Ladies arigun: asi cikardiktan sonra simdi ♠ lerin © ¨ © © - 98 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) ¨ uzerine oynayacak, nun partaj olmama ihtimaline karsi emniyetli eccone: hmm riyilikci: Nezih Kubaˆ§’a hoˆ geldin diyoruz eccone: artˆ‰k dememek zor tez: sakirler hosgeldiniz sharkey : looks like 7 tricks when ♠ break favorably..♣4 cindy: was gonna say pretty good hand to be passing 3N yo_yo: nice lead for NS sharkey: a small pick up for the Hacketts perhaps bg: continue clubs let dclarer end for himself idblu: E certainly doesn’t have a 1NT call with a stiff ovncylmz: wow ovncylmz: well done yakop: agresif abi:) eccone: 6 eccone: tam dagˆ‰lˆ‰m bilinmiyor suanda herald yakop : ˆ ilem soylerlerse 10 dakkadan once bitmez bu el tokay1975: :) yakop: mola alabilir bizim iˆ§in:) tokay1975: 3hu 55 diye anlasmˆ‰s olmalari lazim yoksa problem vardi ogoksel: 2. boˆ landˆ‰ktan sonra dˆ¶nˆ… lmesi gerekecek defansˆ‰n batˆ‰rmasˆ‰ iˆ§in yusufb: aslˆ‰nda burda biraz afresif olmakla birlikle 2nt(minorler yada ♠ ten davet) denilebilir ozgurun eliyle ralfwil: wow!..♣K idblu: unless 1 = roswolf: apparently the team finishing ahead in the Swiss is awarded 0.5 imp josj: in Beijing standards, that would be a healthy lead... yo_yo: that seems an odd rule roswolf: :) nezihk: karo oynamasˆ‰ defans iˆ§in iyi nezihk: pik rua kaˆ§tˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in yine de oluyor yakop: burdan seyredince kolay gibi ama iˆ§erde batmamak iˆ§in ugraˆ ˆ‰yolar snorris: good duck..♣2 ralfwil: I cannot understand 5 ! it´·s obvious to bid 5♣ idblu: not so loud Marshal yo_yo: Liu has a horrible choice of leads there though ralfwil: or only 2 trumps on the short ♣ ahollan1: as mentioned tough hand to bid in © ¨ ¨ © ¨ © © - 99 - Precision -- She chose to call it Balanced rather than clumsy 2♣ rebid xenya: but this one is easy yo_yo: they mustn’t allow extra boards to be played mustafaozk: 9. board kapalˆ‰da 3nt konturlu oynanˆ‰yor nezihk: 6 nolu bordda diˆ er masad 2nt oynanˆ‰ yormuˆ , othered1: interesting choice back..♣6 cindy: uhoh cindy: he’s thinking :( idblu: can’t move...no ♠ cuebid wilkinsona: well bid ahollan1: 1N is NOT a standard Precision response -with good 5 card suit and game forcing hand [8+ HCP] normal response is 2♣ caitlin: flat board ahollan1 : the rest of the auction does look Stayman-ish, which is standard precision fabsayc: probably deciding hat diamond to return fabsayc: what sybarra: guys, I have an early day also,....going to have to say good night fabsayc: gn shirley sybarra: midnight approaching here, and the pumpkin coach is waitnng sybarra: gn all ralfwil: needs nothing more..... ahollan1: nope 1♣=strong 1 =neg b_eymen: 2 majˆ¶rler diye alert edilmedi mi? ovncylmz: majorler diil ki eccone: bundan sonra mac varmˆ‰ diye sorular alˆ‰yorum ovncylmz: var, son maclar MolvaM: 2nt aˆ§ˆ‰klamasˆ‰nˆ‰ rica edelim? ovncylmz: ama yemek arasi MolvaM: seyircilerimiz iˆ§in eccone: 2♣ 2 ya transfer vugraphzkg: evet bir mac daha var sonboardlara dogru takˆ‰mlarˆ‰ ve saati soyleyecem MolvaM: son maˆ§lar 2030 da eccone: 2 nt 5 li dengeli davet nezihk: karoya da uyuyor 3 lˆ… koz sahibi tez: diyecektim ki:)etmis tokay1975: 2 tur dia boslanirsa vale h oynuyor asla spi vrmeden 9u yok birakiyor ilk hu 2nciyide birakiyor diadonusunu alip asas spi cekiyor viyana darbesiyle yapiyor 3nt bakalˆ‰m ... tokay1975: yanˆ‰ldˆ‰kmˆ‰ bu defa idblu: over 3♣ pard bids 3N if all stopped, or the suit he has..♣J ¨ ¨ ¨ © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) snorris: 7 tricks as they did in the open room idblu: 8 on top...9th to follow in ♣’s eccone: 2way oynuyolar yane ovncylmz: tum 4lu splerle 1d-1h ye 1sp diyorlar mi? yakop : eger 0-8 alert i dogruysa avcˆ‰ fren yapacak riyilikci: Ana Sayfa IMP Misafir IMP tokay1975: 3lu kozla bence cok agresif bg: bravo just picked up 3 imps..♣8 henryb: now 9 winners in aces and kings sharkey: The lead didnt hurt Hans idblu: thats taking a view...but I can’t argue with success:) ovncylmz: zayif 1major ya da 19-22 dengeli 5li major yok tokay1975: diasunu donerse ona bile yapiyo santyclz: Unless 1nt was a xfer to ♣s...♣5 mcarroll: lead certainly helps! idblu: worried that if the ♠ hook loses they can take 4 tricks ahollan1: for both other Chinese Pairs -- the 1N rebid is 18-19 bal/semi-bal idblu: i’ll bet N played small and E is tanking nnow josj: we have no time for that here as the next match will start shortly :) eccone: bˆ¶lede olur ogoksel: dekleran 5 lˆ¶vede kalˆ‰r -2 nezihk: 6 imp ekˆ i takˆ‰mˆ‰na gelecek eccone: or 8+ no 4 M snorris: in the defence!.. 4 wilkinsona: I reckon for a make here bg: N endplayed now cannot beat three ralfwil: claim 10 and new board idblu: the same hand? akgun : guney 6s olur diye uzulmustur yeri gorunce deniz_t: gˆ…zel kontrat nezihk: karo rua kaˆ§ˆ‰nca 4 sp yapˆ‰lˆ‰yor eccone: hehe yakop: ˆ imdi oldu tez: olay varmiydi.koptum:) MolvaM: bunu bilemeyeceˆ iz maalesef tokay. 3nt oynanamˆ‰yor artˆ‰k tokay1975 : dia dia vale h ufakh ilk 4 love kazaniyor defans MolvaM: olmak ˆ…zere tezcan MolvaM: bu elde farketmiyor salvo ne dˆ¶neceˆ ini bildiˆ i iˆ§in tokay1975: as koyar dedim cunku acanda sigan sp 5li dia ve ruah varsa batiyor mucize bisey ama © © © sharkey: 3 more IMPs for the Ladies.. A arigun: ♠ kaybetsede problen degildi eccone: 9 ♠ tokay1975: as h h oynarsa simdi yakop: hadi arkadaˆ lar en az 10 dakka mola:) riyilikci: bodrum-valentimo 22-2 riyilikci: burdur-izmir bbbeyaz 6-46 riyilikci: varoˆ lu-zabunoˆ lu 17-6 arigun : hele hele son devre ondeysen, butun boardlar dumduz gelmezse kabahatli hep el dagitici program olur tokay1975: sonra as sp cekip yerdeki dam sple elinde asx hu squiz ediyor ogoksel: tokay bu sefer yemek kaybetmezsin:) tokay1975: heheeh tamammˆ‰ bu cindy: look at N hand if S rebids 2H.. T shevek: Ron Klinger and Matt Mullamphy were in the Aussie Open team in Beijing last year athene : well, we want some good boards for australia, in the interests of an exciting match yo_yo: this hand isnt going so well for the ladies yo_yo: if only East had covered.. sharkey: 6 more boards after this - looks like 13 IMPs to the Aussies here nafiz: hoˆ geldin VulkaN vulkan: teˆ ekkˆ…rler, selam herkese b_eymen: burda bi arkadasˆ‰mˆ‰zˆ‰n dedigi gibi ♠ K balamak lazˆ‰m b_eymen: selam hocam b_eymen: j10xx ˆ¶nlem almak lazˆ‰m vulkan: slm eymenciim b_eymen: 3 1 e kayˆ‰p yok eccone: kuzey 4 dese daha iyieltarifi olurdu tokay1975: hemsende oynasak 6 ya yerin uzun rengi cˆ‰kˆ‰ldˆ‰gˆ‰nda empas otomatiktir eccone: tehlikeli atak yakop: yerein kulagˆ‰ vardˆ‰r adamˆ‰ etkilemeyin:) yakop: empas atarsa tokaydan bileceez eccone: ahaahh tokay1975: :)) tokay1975: hemˆ ende ama burda as tokay1975: aksam meyhanede meze olmamak icin dam hemˆ ense tokay1975: hemˆ ende yakop: bircanˆ‰n kartˆ‰ da agrsesif:) nezihk: karo 2-2 ise empasa gerek kalmˆ‰yor nezihk: dolayˆ‰sˆ‰yla atmayacak eccone: benim kortugum A♠ K yakop: tek mide bulandˆ‰rˆ‰cˆ‰ atak edildi orhan abi formda tokay1975: lakabini soleyelimmi ismail cindy: i mean overcall 1N instead of 1♠.. 2 © © ¨ © - 100 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) snorris: playing on crossruffs now ralfwil: four boards to pick up 30 IMPs xenya: curious play -- but it’s as good as anything else jaapfr: he back now they missed my forecast???? ovncylmz: oyun plani nasil olmali eymen? tokay1975: yapardi tokay1975: orhan abinin tokay1975: defans 3ncu hu gelse catala geliyor 9 tez: atak edilmezse 6♣ galiba MolvaM: 3.lˆ…k maˆ§ˆ‰ sonucu: http://clubs.vugraph.com © /tbricfed/teams_round.php?round=1414 ogoksel: ama dekleranˆ‰n ♠ empasˆ‰nˆ‰ refˆ …ze etmesi lazim.Masada empas atˆ‰lˆ‰r batˆ ‰lˆ‰r derim ben tokay1975: ben artik gible tartisicam :))) tez: jx den atak zor wilkinsona: a slght change in the position of these spade would make a mess of 3NT.. 5 othered1 : What benefit would you get from transferring to ♣ that would overcome mispositioning the NT often? ahollan1: PO again mentions something i misse -maybe 3 ♣ instead of 2 to show max + ♣ length sharkey: which is desperately needed twcho: sorry, private yusufb : evet 4lu koz olsa bide tek zaten 2 ♠ sozkonusu olmazdˆ‰ snorris: no 7.. 8 mcarroll: I agree thommos: 11 akgun: haklˆ‰sˆ‰n akgun: karoyu cakip pik vericek sanirim deniz_t: bence kuzey 6 ♠ oynayabilirmiyiz diye bir seˆ§enek sundu sanki :) eccone: sunduysada dengeli slem daveti gibi oldu tez: artik yapmak icin ♣ empas yapacak MolvaM: "elle daˆ ˆ‰tsak her zaman biz yeneriz" demekte yarar var koksoy: dˆ…n zabunoglu takˆ‰mˆ‰na karsˆ ‰ son 2 boarda 13 ˆ‰mp ˆ¶nde girip 25 ˆ‰ mp verip 12 ˆ‰mp le kaybettik ogoksel: ˆ brahimin 4 ya attˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ dbl NS ekibi 6♣ e iteledi MolvaM: diˆ er masa bitirdi idblu: only if they are 5-3..♠2 idblu: 4-4 always makes 3N idblu: lots of avoidance plays nezihk: defans iyi olarak terefl dˆ¶nmeli fakat karolara uyunca oluyor © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 101 - tokay1975: hem sp onorleri ayrik yuksek ihtimal hemde guney tek h ruadam sp rd dia x derdi belki 1he MolvaM : ufuktan gˆ…zel oynamasˆ‰nˆ‰ bekliyoruz tez: dikkatli bi oyunla kolay..maca heyecan geldi ogoksel: 4 ya pas dese idi 5♣ te duracaklardˆ ‰...ˆ imdi tayfun ortaˆ ˆ‰nda as ve kayˆ‰p karo puanˆ‰ olmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ biliyor tez: batmak zor ogoksel: toplam 25 puan 8 kart koz.. tez: yu alacak dam ♠ oynayacak tokay1975: neticede acik elde oluru olmayan bi 6 cl sans faktorude oldukca onemli bu oyunda h cˆ‰kˆ‰lsa ve batsa 24 imp diferans MolvaM : ne dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor ki diye soran seyircilerimize cevap. oyunu nasˆ‰l oynayacaˆ ˆ ‰nˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor. yoksa yerden karo vale elden de karo as oynamasˆ‰ gerektiˆ ini muhtemelen biliyordur deklaran ... MolvaM: :) ogoksel: Jx den atak imkansˆ‰za yakˆ‰ n.Ama biliniyorki Defansˆ‰n dan lˆ¶ve ˆ§ˆ‰ karmasˆ‰ zor.Tayfun 2 boˆ ile 6♣ diyemezdi bence MolvaM : english commentary is in the open room. this room is turkish ONLY vugraphzkg: dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor oyuncu nezihk: cevapˆ§ˆ‰da 5431 belli zaten, tez: ilk ♠ almazsa ♠ vermez..as koyup cakar serhat: Bulent alˆ‰p H K oynayˆ‰nca isler karˆ ‰sˆ‰yor o zaman.. tref empasˆ‰ yapip batabilir fabsayc: the 1NT response is in fact the problem with transfer responses.. 2 santyclz: I don’t know, Ed. Nor do I know that was a xfer. It was alerted though so it seemed a possibility. jaapfr: any explanation not in4 ? b_eymen: claim arigun : turnuvanin yapildigi salonda surekli elektrik kesintisinden dolayi canli yayinimizda problem cikmaktadir herkesden cok ozur dileriz MolvaM: selamlar tekrar b_eymen: wc MolvaM: izmirdeki elektrik kesintisi birˆ§ok kiˆ iyi dˆ‰ˆ arˆ‰ attˆ‰ sanˆ‰rˆ‰m eccone: tek varken sˆ¶ylemek lazˆ‰m ogoksel: ortaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰n geldiˆ i marka bˆ…yˆ…k R koymasˆ‰nˆ‰n anlamˆ‰ yok nezihk: kuzey insiyatif kullandˆ‰ ve kazandˆ‰ exerdar: karo ataˆ ˆ‰na 3nt fazla oluyor, ufak kˆ ¶r ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰labilse bi heyecan olabilirdi heralde ¨ ¨ ¨ © © ¨ ¨ ¨ © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) koksoy: ve simdi burada murat.levent ve ben marlowepi: ruff the hearts good, and diamond sizlere yazˆ‰yoruz :) arigun : o devredeki grand slam eli olmasa kazaniyordunuz biliyorum :) arigun: benzer boardlar bizde de oldu :) tez : 1 imp ile turkiye sampiyonlugunu cok kaybedende var:)lutfen yani MolvaM: yes there isnt an open room becuase they finished the set. pls wait for the next segment to start in approx 1 hr nezihk: pik alˆ‰nˆ‰nca problem kalmˆ‰yor, trefl 3-2 olmalˆ‰ ogoksel: Ortakta muhtemel bir ♠ onˆ¶rˆ… olduˆ u var sayˆ‰lˆ‰r ise defans 2.lˆ¶vesini renginden umarak atak edebilirdi belki mariner1: Marshall you are a psychic :)..♣7 cindy: his hand looks ginormous after a 2H rebid snorris: well 4 was a strech josj: In Norway that is yakop: sansar vugraphzkg: 5 5 riyilikci: 2 NT naturel deˆ il ama sˆ‰ˆ§ramalarla ilgili CCde bilgi yok snorris: or not..♣A sharkey: ♣ 33 so can pitch dummy’s ♣ wilkinsona: trouble is, East has pushed the boat out already and doesnt want to bid 5 clubs irwinbo: good auction, he had to try marlowepi: sure idblu: meanwhile, what happens on a ♣ lead....??? ahollan1: Claim Early - Claim Often!!! akgun: hatta 2 sinide:) eccone: yoksa direkt 4 derdi haklˆ‰sˆ‰nˆ‰z tokay1975: :) eccone: ♠ kalˆ‰rdˆ‰ cˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰nca eccone: panik yapmassa batmazdˆ‰ ama yakop: kor oynarsa fazla loveyi kapar fabsayc: not to me..♠8 fabsayc: 2 shows 44 only marlowepi: hearts provide the tricks. S cant lead clubs twice without giving dummy an extra entry vugraphzhq: players take a rest idblu: pointed out that there is a red suit squeeze after AK ruff a marlowepi: on what sequence of previous plays, do you mean? idblu: if you lead ♠ and they lead ♣ then u set up the / sq marlowepi: there is no need to. on club lead just play heart to ace and ruiff a heart, then concede a spade. S has to win to lead a club, but then you have another entry to dummy in trumps to ... ace is till there to reach the long heart for 11th trick nezihk: doˆ ru tokay1975: evet son clini kaciyor 3ncu diaya 4ncu diaya buyuk cakip kozu ekip yere dogru sp oynuyor marlowepi: most people just say psycho, thanks for the tact Rob..♣9 MolvaM: cem ve tolganˆ‰n el deˆ erlenirmeleri ˆ §ok baˆ arˆ‰lˆ‰ bu elde idblu: not a reverse?.. 7 fabsayc: with 45 rebid 2 cindy: not to me tokay1975 : cl pash pas %75 bunda sp onlu guneyde ise ve h rua tekse yapiyor tez: goreegiz yapamaz diyenleri tez: c nezihk: 4-2 pik iˆ§in 1 karo daha ˆ§akmalˆ‰, ama ona geliˆ gidiˆ yok, mecbur 3-3 pike oynayacak MolvaM: 1170 seyricimiz var. bugˆ…n iˆ ler iyi tokay1975: dusunuyosa alicak demektir cindy: thats a typo he meant psycho hee hee.. J mariner1: :) marlowepi: agree with cindy about 1NT, assuming we have methods to find a spade fit if we have it sharkey: Four more boards after this one ralfwil: very slow now! akgun: kor pasi afise artˆ‰k eccone: teknoloji yetiyosa :) MolvaM: ama karo dam ters tarafta olsa idi, fazla konuˆ tular diyecektik yakop: ama rh+ male sansar:) eccone: batma ihtimali kalmadˆ‰ nezihk: emre 3 lˆ… atakda orhanda en fazla 2 tane pik var sanˆ‰yor ve ˆ§ubuˆ unu yakmˆ‰ˆ bekliyor yakop: guzel ˆ ilem guzel atak eccone: empas yapardˆ‰ ozaman belki :)( eccone: baska caresi kalmˆ‰yor nezihk: evet riyilikci: valentino-izmir BBB 21-25 cindy: to me it shows shape..♠T jaapfr: b41 nezihk: karo antresi hala duruyor tokay1975: ama butun bunlar ash h oynanˆ‰ nca eerbil: diˆ er odada grandˆ lem sˆ¶ylendi MolvaM: yas tutan arkadaˆ lar iˆ§in bbo’da ˆ¶zel a ˆ lama odalarˆ‰ var xenya : a simpler line is to cash the ♠ A and © © © © © © © ¨© ¨ ¨ ¨ - 102 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) embark ona cross ruff, establishing a ♣ trick in the process.. 6 roswolf: declarer isnt making many tricks here b_eymen: kritik b_eymen: yere karo veya ♠ b_eymen: masada olmak laazˆ‰m biraz b_eymen: ♠ ruanˆ‰n yerini tahmin etmek lazˆ ‰m ovncylmz: gunaydin herkese:) nezihk: gˆ…naydˆ‰n nezihk: tabii ogoksel: 2 takˆ‰mda birbirini ˆ§ok zorlayˆ‰cˆ ‰ kontratlara ulaˆ ˆ‰yorlar..Demin Bˆ…lentin 3Nt si ˆ imdide 6♣ cindy: i dont rebid 5 card suits..♣Q fabsayc: not a reverse if 2♣ is game force werge: 140 is over - and out athene: maybe this is the start of an exciting Ozzie Rally eccone: aynen eccone: :) MolvaM: yorumcular ele gˆ¶re konuˆ maya bayˆ ‰lˆ‰rlar :) eccone: hakkaten fazla konustular ama koksoy: bu sene bayanlarda ve senyˆ¶rlerde olimpiyat sampiyonlugu 15 gˆ…nlˆ…k oyun sonunda 1 ˆ‰mp ile bitti wilkinsona: Happy bridge have to go some here as EW have gone off in 5 contracts OR..♠3 yo_yo: is this knockout or swiss? ovncylmz: 4h asiri agresif degil mi?:) eccone: 13 10 dengeliye dengeli eccone: son 3 dakika yakop: bitmez daha oyle eccone: biri sˆ¶ylese kabak diye ya :) nezihk: maˆ§ yeniden baˆ ladˆ‰ diyebilirmiyiz? yakop: bircan emin olun oyun bitince orgazm olmuˆ gibi hissedecek(umarˆ‰m RTˆ K yoktur):) eccone: operatˆ¶r arkadasˆ‰mˆ‰zdan masada yasananlarˆ‰ naklen iletmesini rica ediyorum :P MolvaM: .eˆ itli seyircilerden soru geliyor. valentino takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰n isminin sebebi nedir diye MolvaM: aˆ§ˆ‰klama yapacak yorumcumuz var mˆ‰ eerbil: hepsi ˆ§ok yakˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰klˆ‰ serhat: now what? tokay1975 : cl rua gelip diaya asla cakip cl oynicak ogoksel: Serhat bey sizi aˆ§ˆ‰k odaya alalˆ‰m:) tokay1975: sonrasi ben karˆ‰smam tez : ♣ ele gelip cakarsa..asla..sonrada ♣ valeyi toplarsa yapiyor ¨ ¨ - 103 - tokay1975: allah kurtarsin ahollan1: Meckwell uses 1♣-1N to show game force hand with ♣ length -- so there must be something to that approach..♠7 othered1: Juice can’t do it one imp at a time. riyilikci: takˆ‰m kaptanˆ‰ ˆ brahim Yarˆ‰moˆ lu’nun lakabˆ‰ barbyh: yes..♣T mariner1: in fairness W probably did like his position behind the 1 caller..... wilkinsona: good trump, holds to 9 ahollan1: which pseudo-squeeze? ovncylmz: diger masada da 4♠ oynaniyor ovncylmz : orda deklaran kor pasi yapmaya mecbur kalmis gibiydi en son ovncylmz: batti diger masada MolvaM: mesela takˆ‰mˆ‰n sponsoru ahmet valentino isimli birisi olabilir mi? vahaboglu: 10 riyilikci: valentino19-yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran 29 vahaboglu: markalarˆ‰ harcamadˆ‰ Zafer.. 5 sharkey: Actual score 76-42 now.. Q shevek: anyway, I like to take the opportunity to tell everyone that in 10 days we host the Yeh Bros Cup Invitational Teams as a lead in to the Gold Coast Congress 26/2/09 to 02/03/09 - ... shevek: Jupiters Casino, Gold Coast eccone: ? arigun: ben ogleden sonra bir oda actim, ama invisible... kimse gormeden kendi kendime hungur hungur agladim fabsayc: is more a case of less evil i think.. 3 idblu: N is the protector here...will hate to throw his A santyclz: pitch gave up the dbl-sqz possibility, but it didn’t matter since s 3-3 anyway. eccone: sevgili operatˆ¶r iyisin degilmi? tokay1975: 4lu kozun yoksa bi asin olmalˆ‰ agresif bi bid yapmak icin bile neticede dv10 ♠ ten birini ezicek nt diyen onoru olduguna gore cindy: no but it doesnt show a balanced hand either.. 6 koksoy: bric iste :) b_eymen: haberimyok canˆ‰m.. K akgun: dama rua cikarsa eskisehire donmemek icin as girdi:) eccone: batˆ‰nˆ‰n A♠ olsa zaten bˆ…yˆ…k ihtimal A♠ ceker eccone: karˆ‰sˆ‰klˆ‰k cˆ‰kmassˆ‰n diye yakop: test vugraphzkg: teknik arˆ‰za oldu sry ahollan1: nope -- the play of the hand doesn’t ¨ ¨ © © © © © © ¨ ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) interest me at all :)..♠Q eccone: npp nezihk: dˆ‰ˆ arda 1 pik kaldˆ‰ kor oynamakda sorun yok.. 7 tuppermet: deklaran karo ruayˆ‰ ˆ§ekerse gˆ… ney karo ruaya damˆ‰ atmalˆ‰ riyilikci: evet galiba el aˆ§ildi pazarlik var MolvaM: ok teˆ ekkˆ…r ovncylmz: berabere oldu bu arada mac, 3nt+1 olan el 2sp oynandi.. A serhat: :) MolvaM: ben empas atar batardˆ‰m ovncylmz: bu el cidden zor bence derken -1.. 9 idblu: true, and also true.. K eccone: endiˆ elendim senin icin ogoksel: empasˆ‰ atˆ‰p batacak ahollan1: 3 = I like ..♠9 yakop: bircandamˆ‰? MolvaM: ben gˆ¶rdˆ…m seni cengiz chessmaste: ten was not too shabby.. 8 tez: guzel oynadi tokay1975: normal yuzdesi empasti yakop: :)..♠A tokay1975: evet riyilikci: zafer gene bilemedi bugˆ…n mehmet pulat zaferin ˆ…zerine oynuyor riyilikci: bodrum-valentino 12 bord sonunda 36-2 © ¨ © © © © © Board NS: EW: o 3N c 3N 11 E E this/total IMPs Quantum 107 Primabridge 74 3 400 3 400 11 5 ♠9 8 6 3 8 A973 6 6 62 4 ♣A 5 2 ♠A5 N ♠Q 7 2 K J8 Q10 2 W E 75 A Q10 4 3 S ♣Q876 43 ♣K J ♠ K J10 4 8-7 5 654 6 K J98 7 ♣10 9 9 -100 W N: Nanev Open S: Mihov N E p 2♣ 3♣ 3♠ p p p p p p W: Andonov E: Popov 1N 2 3 3N ¨ © ªT,5,3,Q ª6,2,J,A ©2,5,K,A ª4,¨7,ª9,¨3 #1 S:: #3 N:: #5 E:: #7 S:: § § ª S p p p p p #2 E:: K,9,3,A #4 W:: 4,2,J,T #6 N:: 8,7,K, 5 ¨ lestergold: the trumps were not that bad lestergold: the values were comfortable part score values rather than game values..p..p..p..1N ndemirev : there must be a good reason for stayman and then 3♣ that i’m not aware of..p..2 ♣..p..2 ..p..3♣..p..3 ndemirev: are they playing 14-16 nt? ..p..3♠ ..p..3N..p lestergold: a trick always nlikely on the lead..p..p.. ♠T lestergold: in dims or spades vugraphb1: in CC is writen (14)15-17 ndemirev: then 1n-3n strikes me as normal ..♠5.. ♠3..♠Q..♣K..♣9..♣3 lestergold: this makes on any return by n lestergold: if north retrned a dim than east playes ace and in fulness iof time defence makes the two ¨ © - 104 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) aces and two dims thats all..♣A..♠6..♠2..♠J..♠ A lestergold: this way 2 aces and two spades..♣4.. ♣2..♣J..♣T.. 2.. 5.. K.. A..♠8..♠7..♠K.. 5..♠4.. 7..♠9.. 3 roswolf: science is normally to be praised but sometimes more primitive bidding is best ¨ © © © © ¨ ¨ Board NS: EW: o 3N c 3N 11 E E this/total IMPs Primabridge 74 Quantum 107 3 400 3 400 11 5 ♠9 8 6 3 8 A973 6 6 62 4 ♣A 5 2 ♠A5 N ♠Q 7 2 K J8 Q10 2 W E 75 A Q10 4 3 S ♣Q876 43 ♣K J ♠ K J10 4 8-7 5 654 6 K J98 7 ♣10 9 9 -100 W: V.Aronov W p 2N 3N N: S.Skorchev Closed E: J.Stefanov S: B.Popov N E S p p 1N p p 3♣ p p p p ªJ,5,3,Q #2 E::§K,9,3,2 §J,T,Q,5 #4 W::§8,A,¨4,©4 ª6,2,4,A #6 W::§7,©3,2,¨8 §6,ª8,¨3,©5 #8 W::§4,©7,¨T,J ©8,9,Q,6 #10 E::¨A,9,5,2 ©T,ªK,©J,A #12 N::¨6,,, #1 S:: #3 E:: #5 N:: #7 W:: #9 W:: #11 E:: cindy : yeh well then 1N instead of that ratty spade suit mariner1 : next session is scheduled for 60 minutes from now fabsayc: is all a matter of agreement idblu: but 2N shows something you definitely do not have cindy: admitedly i dont play sayc fabsayc: to me, 3♣ is unbalanced cindy: not to me wilkinsona: ...six now... Walddk4: http://www.jcbl.or.jp/game/nec/necfest.html for the tournament website snorris: 6 s othered1: 130 l;ooks very generous fabsayc: well played, i am impressed at overall © - 105 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) level of play wilkinsona: thats some claim.. fabsayc: 110 is all npcjpn: looks like a series of strong notrumps. werge: It´·s the old story - with 4 you overbid, and now you try to regret it caitlin: really?? caitlin: how could that be yo_yo: is there a heat wave there? idblu: 720 = N threew his ’s ahollan1: so -- pseudo sqeezed worked -- there really is no justice roswolf: perhaps ovncylmz: bu el heyecanli olucak deniz_t: bir anlamdada sizin dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ndˆ…ˆ ˆ… nˆ…zde doˆ ru olabilir fakat kayˆ‰plar konusunda anlaˆ abilmekde gerek sanki:) eccone: burddan bi ekmek yerler :) ogoksel: muhtemelen sorunsuz 2 oynayacaklar KG MolvaM: ˆ¶yle tabii ama baˆ arˆ‰ ile tartˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ lmaz derler eccone: 1 nt 2 iyi :) ovncylmz: :) deniz_t: sˆ¶ylemiˆ tim zannederim:) nezihk: 2 karo ve 1 pik vererek 4 sp kolay gˆ¶zˆ …kˆ…yor arigun : KQxxx ? yinede iyi ? QJ10... 50%, Kj10xx. 51.68 :) arigun: pardon ozel mesajdi yakop: ˆ u anda irfanlarˆ‰n rakibi 3 buyuk ˆ ehir dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda bi takˆ‰m olsa 40 sayˆ‰ bu 3 elden yerlerdi:) eccone: hmm yakop: deklerasyon nasˆ‰l yazsana nezih koksoy: gˆ…nde 10 saatten 15 gˆ…n oyna so nra 1 imp :) :) MolvaM: bu bordu skoru iˆ lenmedi sanˆ‰rˆ‰m daha tokay1975 : sp pas gecerse vale sp cekip sp cakmaya gidicek 42 sp varken bile cl vale iyi yerdeyse yapabiliyor tokay1975: 2 oyunda kritik hesap yapmak lazim MolvaM: ok dˆ…zeldi teˆ ekkˆ…r tokay1975: yinede yuzyuzde100 varken tez: zafer gecen sene 1 imp ile kaybettigi finali hatirladi..1 imp kazaniriz belki diye e kucuk koydu tokay1975: evet 1impde kˆ‰ymetli yusufb: diger masada 55♠ varken 3nt batˆ‰nca anladˆ‰gˆ‰m maˆ§ bˆ‰rakˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ MolvaM: zorlu-assael bir ˆ lem kaˆ§ˆ‰rmˆ‰ˆ © ¨ © © © gibi gˆ¶rˆ…nˆ…yor 12. elde ama buna karˆ ˆ‰n irfan-zafer ˆ leme batmˆ‰ˆ ve izmir takˆ‰mˆ‰ kontrlu partskor yapmˆ‰ˆ wilkinsona: I go alonf with Hans and the 6 heart suggestion..p caitlin: hmmm yo_yo: it’s a great tournament , i’ve been 3 times xenya: perhaps S was trying to cater for a 5-1 split in ♣s? b_eymen: 2♠ oynanˆ‰r heralde eccone: burdan alˆ‰rlar biraz eccone: :) eccone: 11 kadar mariner1: EW can compete in here..p idblu : to me says I don’t have a major or 2 stopped wilkinsona: Roland’s arrived folks.. Walddk4: Hi all snorris: hi ralfwil : In OR scores seems good for China Women sharkey: S opened Multi 2 in OR snorris: a good 6 ralfwil: 4 on NS snorris: me too ralfwil: But you cannot be ashamed for 4 and let your partner decide werge: Sporty 6 here thommos: 6 on the ♠ finese caitlin: we can all miss cards santyclz: Particularly when the contract is not in danger and we’ve been playing for several days. caitlin: for sure fabsayc: opportunity here werge: Part score in sight sharkey: it’s warmer than where you are Kath :) athene: probably australia has less snow at the minute than england idblu: I hate to throw Aces also :) idblu: get so few of them ahollan1: checking dictionary --- nope sqeezed is not acceptable form of squeeze b_eymen: woow b_eymen: artˆ‰k zor ovncylmz: 1kor? akgun: 4d dese iyiydi 3d ustune akgun: 1h-1nt gelince tek koru gostermek istemedi sanirim aruf: 4 belirgindi ovncylmz: su pik dam atagi var ya ovncylmz: aynisi diger masada da olmus desem yakop: ˆ u anda gorecegiz rakip ne kadarˆ‰nˆ‰ ¨ ¨ © © © © © - 106 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) soyleyebilecek riyilikci: burdur-izmir 10 bord sonunda 6-46 eccone: 4♣ riyilikci: varoˆ lu zabˆ‰noˆ lu 8 bord sonunda 176 eccone: ilkerden saldˆ‰rgan bi aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ arigun: sari olmanin avantaji, namahrem diye birsey kalmadi :) snorris: borderline 2 ....p Walddk4: Long time ago sharkey: Good morning Walddk4: We also have an open room othered1: down 1 wasn’t it? wilkinsona: -1 I think werge: Not only - Q of , if ♠ are not 3-3 santyclz : Well e was obviously 3235 on the auction, so... roswolf: oh well this complicates east’s life eccone: DB uyandˆ‰rabilir mustafaozk: 4h gelirse 4s demek zorlaˆ abilir KG iˆ§in riyilikci: BODRUM 5.0 VALENTˆ NO 37.0 riyilikci: BURDUR 25.0 Bˆ Yˆ Kˆ EHˆ R BEYAZ 24.0 riyilikci: YILANKIRAN 20.0 J.YILANKIRAN 5.0 tokay1975: valentino sˆ‰kˆ‰ takˆ‰m kolay pes etmez tokay1975: 4lu spi var sandi tama indirim bari dedi marlowepi: the real issue, i think, is whether 1NT will compromise your chances of finding a spade fit. if not, then i have no problem with cindy’s slight upgrade based on the positional .....1N marlowepi: factor rob mentioned barbyh: what??? cindy: im with you ralfwil: 3 ! snorris: pondering.. snorris: steeling the suit wilkinsona: south in 4 spades OR irwinbo: strong 2s bid sharkey: 3 NT in OR caitlin: many 4 person teams othered1: getting to game on these north south hands can score 6 more imps bg: heres a chance for Juice to pick up mor than one imp idblu: that was so long ago ahollan1: 2 = transfer to -- showing better raise than immediate 2 chessmaste: 4 looks good - but can declarer © ¨ © © ¨ - 107 - © © © overcome the breaks? roswolf: is that correct - looks a great gamble to me b_eymen: 2 2♠ pas pas olur heralde baska masada ovncylmz: bundan sonraki macta kimleri izleyecegiz? eccone: dogu daha dogrusu ovncylmz: cok enteresan geldi bana MolvaM: demek ˆ ablon atakmˆ‰ˆ eccone: hayˆ‰rlˆ‰ iˆ ler deriz eccone: :) MolvaM: defterime not edeyim de ben de hep pik dam ˆ§ˆ‰kayˆ‰m eccone: ahaha ovncylmz: murat abi sana lazim olacak bunlar yarin:) nezihk: ege derbisi diyebilirmiyiz? yakop: duzeltme burdur 6h demiˆ tez: ortadogu ve balkanlardada ibrahim i herkes valentino olarak taniyor eerbil: bu elde K-G’in 5-3 kˆ¶r fitini bulabilmesi ˆ¶nemli gˆ¶rdˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…z gibi MolvaM: bu son bordun iyi tarafˆ‰ maksimum seyirci katˆ‰lˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰ saˆ lamˆ‰ˆ olmamˆ ‰z. herkesin uykusu aˆ§ˆ‰ldˆ‰ snorris: might be hard to reach after the preempt..p shevek: yes we do have bush fires in victoria and floods in queensland yo_yo: the only drawback is the surf yo_yo: you can’t have a decent swim shevek: drawback, you’re kidding Kath :) athene: surely surf is good? it means you can have an Exciting Swim chessmaste: 3NT? Way too much for me josj: nope tez: 2nt=minor soruyor tez: 2♣=majorler fabsayc: debate time again..2N!..ask for 5!H or ! S ralfwil: any objection? snorris: I would have opened in first seat othered1: and it’s been corrected to that on the movie snorris: or will they cope? cindy: wow idblu: the ♣8 grows up wilkinsona: QC perhaps idblu: anyone for 2 ’s ahollan1: this is ’only’ day 4 of the event - and China is 6-handed ralfwil: in that case - the first one! xenya : no reasonable explanation, Jaap, i’m © © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) afraid yo_yo: Lui has guts yo_yo: Liu josj: there is no law against gambling ovncylmz: kuzey davet etmesin su an? vugraphzkg: dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor derken etti aruf: tam bi el tarifi gibiydi eccone: mesala ortakta 3 boˆ pik sadece as kˆ¶r puanˆ‰da olabilir riyilikci: Mustafa Tokay’da aramˆ‰zda tokay1975: selamlar yakop: ˆ imdi zafer ortak oyun acinca 1 0puandan itibaren ˆ ilem soyler:) eerbil: natˆ…relde 1sp-1nt-3nt diye gidebilecek bi deklarasyonun sonucu aˆ ˆ‰r oluyor bu elde MolvaM: sˆ…per deklareeee tokay1975: her normal insan gibi 4lu spi var sandi:))) tez: 4 de bitecek ogoksel: 4♠ 4 e baraj olmuˆ sanki? tez: 2 ile hangi major uzun diye sorulabiliyor tez: artik bundan sonra macin donmesi imkansiz..senlikler baslatila:) marlowepi: worth a short suit or long suit try i think..p cindy: wow again wilkinsona: and with the diamonds as they are may be 4 losers idblu: must play that constructive cindy: is that really the lead ? marlowepi: maybe the other black queen ralfwil : do you know what defence NS have against strong ♣ Walddk5: There will be no extra boards for sure. In the event of a tie, the higher ranking team in the Swiss wins deniz_t: kuzeyde 5 kayˆ‰plˆ‰ bir el gˆ¶rˆ…nˆ …yor bu anlamda ne iyisini ne de kˆ¶tˆ…sˆ…nˆ … almak gerek sanki orta bir kararda belki 4♠ gˆ …zel deklare ovncylmz: aman dikkat mustafaozk: gelmedi nezihk: slm riyilikci: bu arada turnuva bilgileri riyilikci: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 nezihk: supp dbl, muhtemelen 4pike gelecekler ve 1 pik 1 trefl ile 5 yapacaklar MolvaM: 4pik aˆ§mak iˆ§in fazla iyi bir el snorris: they sure did..3♣! © ¨ © werge: Nice 1 ♠.bid here snorris: you like it? othered1: not me othered1: I guess both souths have downgraded ¨ their after the opening. bg: 2 spades S a little underbid why not 2 dia at least show 10 points or so shevek: well apart from the shark attacks... sharkey: W hates to give up - may cost santyclz: Most play that 3♣ shows a good hand with s, if they do, I wonder what a bad one looks like. yo_yo: Now Imakura knows where K is roswolf: west has a difficult lead here josj: but that won’t help him eccone: rua karoyu at dam tref 3 bos pike 6 hic batmaz eccone: bence az nezihk: pik kontratˆ‰nˆ‰ gˆ¶zden ˆ§ˆ‰kardˆ‰, fakat 5 karo olmuyor sengulerz: ˆ§ok saˆ lamcˆ‰ bir pas G’in eliyle eccone: 2♣ eccone: ˆ¶hm exerdar: 3nt gambling den biraz daha ii bi el tokay1975: o macin canli skorunu gorme imkanˆ ‰mˆ‰z varmˆ‰ MolvaM: ama bu elde sorun yok MolvaM: diˆ er masada gˆ…zel bulmuˆ lar doˆ ru kontratˆ‰ tez: 2nt=3♣ e transfer yusufb: ˆ zmir Buyukˆ ehir takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰n ˆ ampiyonlugunu ˆ imdiden tebrik ediyorum cindy: i dont like 3C either :( to me it begs for a spade lead..p idblu: puppet stayman snorris: not after a gutsy 4 ♣ werge: NOOOO... snorris: the killing lead thommos: don’t like the suit, othered1: I agree that a cue-bid by the passedhand is a good option wygbe1: his line doesnt do that, since only rho can have a stiff club - after the spade jack, could just cash ace and play clubs from top josj: now there is a chance yo_yo: Wang guessed the wrong suit roswolf: this i think can make on this lead Walddk5: So China has a carryover of 0.1 IMP chessmaste : I don’t understand that lead partner must have a club suit - this may cost the contract Walddk5: They finished 3rd in the Swiss © © - 108 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) akgun: 4d gelince hangi guney 6s ye giderdi o ovncylmz : bu arada nevzat abi bboya girdi, elle dummy olur olmaz, haha:) vulkan: 3nt gitti eccone: sizi kapalˆ‰ya bekliyoruz ovncylmz: enteresan kabexnuf: bu sene 1/16 lara egeden dˆ¶rt takˆ‰ m kalmayˆ‰ baˆ ardˆ‰. nezihk: demek ki egede briˆ§ hˆ‰zla ilerliyor. ovncylmz: 6istanbul yakop: anadoludan kastˆ‰m oyuncu kalitesi ile ilgili degil partnerlikle ilgili yakop: major varken minor soylenmez:) MolvaM : http://www.bridgebase.com/client/ vugraph.php tokay1975: valentino bodrum macida heyecanli gidiyordu MolvaM: bu linke bakarak diˆ er masayˆ‰ da izleyebilirsiniz tokay1975: ty MolvaM: bu bakˆ‰mdan diˆ er masada burak aralp’in yaklaˆ ˆ‰mˆ‰na katˆ‰lˆ‰yorum ben tez: ♠ 10 atak tez: puan azken cakaya cikmak cok insani nezihk: 5 olur ogoksel: 2 =multi=zayif majˆ¶rlerden biri.2 = pass or correct cindy: i feel like a big complainer :(..p fabsayc: learned nothing, rather start with 3♠, asking 3NT if both majors stopped, else bid a minor snorris: trying for 7 othered1 : east jumps to game and partner’s absolute high card maximum will be useful. snorris: -3 ralfwil: expensive! snorris: or more? wilkinsona: club ruff looks fairly easy mpny: Swiss qualifying for a KO werge: Here Paul got his 140... yo_yo: i’ve been swimming with sharks, apparently they are over rated as killers yo_yo: the multi strikes again shevek: this is not going to be a pick-up for Oz... yo_yo: presumably Wang doesnt know which suit akgun: evet eccone: artˆ‰k ˆ¶nemli 2 renk var tref ve pik deniz_t: tabiki splinter oynamak veya soran kˆ… bit anlaˆ malarˆ‰na gˆ¶re deiˆ ebilir, zaten bricin gˆ…zelliˆ ide burda:) akgun: acik odada da hic heveslenmemiˆ ler eccone: gˆ…ney 3 dermi ˆ¶vˆ…nˆ§? © eccone: 4 diyincede belki giderdi MolvaM: evet :) eccone: 3NT gamblingmi? eccone: 3 nt mini splintermis eccone: yane 10 12 tek var exerdar: 9-11 4lˆ… fitmiˆ sorry:) eccone: 4♣ gercek splinterede uygun tez: 3nt=oynarim ben bu oyunu tokay1975: ve diger maclarin MolvaM: okan zabunoˆ lu MVP olmaya doˆ ru gidiyor bu maˆ§ta sharkey: 3 by S will certainly be Doubled and most likely make.....3N cindy: whew vugraphzhq: sry idblu: looks like 3 mpny: very tame for east to pass mdgraham: swiss, I believe werge: But close to game anyway athene: east fears his partner just bid south’s suit shevek: that happened 200 meters from where I live :) idblu: 5 in the bank :) ahollan1: transfers over double gaining a lot of popularity to distinguish hands with own suit + tolerance for partner, bad vs good raises MolvaM: baˆ lantˆ‰ kopmalarˆ‰ iˆ§in ˆ¶zˆ…r dileriz. umarˆ‰m ˆ¶nˆ…mˆ…zdeki gˆ…nlerde elektrik kesilmeleri yaˆ anmaz eccone: raip 3 diyince hata yapma ihtimalleriyok nezihk: batan 4 pik, 2 iˆ§eri 5 trefle karˆ ˆ‰ riyilikci: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams _round.php?round=1409 tokay1975: 3nt demek ilginc tabide x gelince ortakta 5li minoru bile bile kacmamak cok daha ilginc tez: as atak edecek tez: sonra ♠ oynayacak bence MolvaM: ortaˆ ˆ‰n pas geˆ§eceˆ i ˆ§eˆ itli ellerle ˆ lem kaˆ§abilir MolvaM: e gel abicim o zaman relrikas: tebrikler izmir buyuksehir othered1: East..p xenya: easy 8 tricks, with ♣Q on ralfwil: But as the cards lie - 9 tricks athene : nicoleta is a shark at the double bay rubber bridge club :) athene: 200 meters from where she lives :) jaapfr: would be lovely to see face expressions of NS ifso © ¨ © - 109 - ¨ © © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) ogoksel: -1? ovncylmz: demez eccone: dememeli eccone: gerci ben yokum yarˆ‰n ovncylmz : ben pik dama yerden pik valeyi koyardim:) ovncylmz: ortalik iyice karissin diye:) dadim: iˆ in gucun ortalˆ‰k karˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰rmak zaten :) nezihk: ˆ imdi ˆ…mit var tokay1975: ama bu sistem bole cok makul diil spler bulunmalˆ‰ sonra yine degerlendirmeye baglˆ‰ 3nt oynanir nezihk: karo oynayacak trefl dˆ¶nˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ… alˆ ‰p piki yerden sola bˆ‰rakmalˆ‰ eccone: gerci 5 li ♠ yok nasˆ‰lsa demistir belki eccone: ama nerden cˆ¶mzˆ…cek MolvaM: ama diˆ er maˆ§larˆ‰n canlˆ‰ skoru yok maalesef tez : rakip yapay sistem oynuyorsa mumkun oldugu kadar cok araya girmek gerekir koksoy: mecburen... ortakta insallah 5-6 faydal ˆ‰ puan vardˆ‰r diye dˆ…sˆ…nˆ…yoruz cindy: whats wrong with just plain old 3N..p idblu: what a lead! cindy: why tell the opps how to defend ralfwil: Once again! now S is in a bad position wilkinsona: fair enough to bid spades if you have them thommos: CRaSH, i am told fabsayc: it leaves more room also in case north has hearts ahollan1: 3 only used as preemptive or sometimes "mixed" ovncylmz: derse aydin bric kulubunde silahlar konusur:) ovncylmz: fit verilmedi eerbil: atak? snorris: or not..♠J thommos: 9 should make on this lead santyclz: Ah, relay, not an ask at all. santyclz: I guess 3♣ showed a bad hand and 3♠ showed the suit. ovncylmz: zaten diger masada 2 -1 olan boardda 2nt oynadi KG ve inanilmaz sekilde oldu kagit ovncylmz: :) eccone: oluyo bazen ovncylmz: bu macta sik sik oluyo bence:) eccone: vuagraph heyecanˆ‰da var tabe suan ovncylmz: ve 4-4pik fiti de bulunmadi yakop: giriˆ te demiˆ tim zaten iyi ˆ§iftler ˆ ilem ozurludur diye © © ¨ yakop: kimse sorumluluk almˆ‰yo tez: orhan in kacmamasi gercekten ilginc..delikanli adammis:) tez: oyle olmasa okay kesinlikle araya girmezdi bu elle MolvaM: ufuˆ un 1 kˆ¶rˆ… 4lˆ… renk gˆ¶steriyor olabilir. 5li garanti etmiyor belki tez: rua cekerek koz cekmeye baslayacak MolvaM: trefl atak edilmedikˆ§e sorun yoktu tez: nafiz larin ise yarayacagini dusunuyor simdi fabsayc: too plain :)..♠5 cindy: i told u it begged for a ♠ lead snorris: more imps to the ladies snorris: aplying the breaks snorris: one last 6 ♣? ralfwil: after 4♣ E must see a slam! snorris: only question about 6 or 7 for east ralfwil: W promising both majors werge: 6 is clearly against odds - after North´· s pre-empt! mcarroll: contemplating 7? wilkinsona: EW ’s aggressive policy can pay off again here othered1: That’s a very friendly lead. Might consider a trump on this auction. fabsayc: well this game should always be bid fabsayc: but they minimized information othered1: yes, it should be bid on EW’s cards, but north doesn’t know that cindy: more small gain chances here cindy: im not going to say i like that lead bg: should play dia 8 tease a cover from ralfwil: three rounds of ♣ one and ♠ had been better othered1: can be headed -1 in a voluntarily bid 3 © ¨ © © ♠ nezihk: doˆ u batˆ‰ bundan daha iyi bir ˆ ey hayal edemezdi herhalde ovncylmz: 3 ankara ovncylmz: isparta + burdur eccone: 9-11 4 lˆ… fit ve ne? tez: 5 ♠ atak edilmezse olmaya yakin riyilikci: diˆ er maˆ§ iˆ§in http://clubs.vugraph.com /tbricfed/teams_match.php?match=10101 eerbil: yine de batˆ‰racaklar MolvaM: brice yeni baˆ layanlarˆ‰n masasˆ‰ nda bu el ˆ imdi bitmiˆ gitmiˆ ti. ˆ imdi yaklaˆ ˆ‰ k 27dk sˆ…ren acˆ‰lˆ‰ bir dˆ¶nem bekliyor bizi MolvaM: "1 overcall yaptˆ‰k, atak et demedik ya" eerbil: defansˆ‰n fazla dˆ…ˆ ˆ…necek biˆ eyi ¨ ¨ - 110 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) olmayacak bence, gˆ¶khan’ˆ‰n sadece smith echo’yu doˆ ru vermesi yeterli olacak tez: vale yu yerden koymak iyi fikir tez: devamini saglak icin MolvaM: ˆ ampiyonada 5. gˆ…nˆ…n akˆ amˆ‰ oynanˆ‰rken smith ekoyu filan kaldˆ‰rmak gerek bence tez: saglamak icin eerbil: :) tezcan’ˆ‰n vale karo fikri de aynˆ‰ mantˆ‰kla kesin doˆ ru riyilikci: valentino-izmir bbb 27-26 tez: fofutta degilim turkcemde fena degil..klavyem kotu:) MolvaM: sˆ‰kˆ‰n diˆ inizi 20 dk kaldˆ‰ sharkey: think 3 initially, as you stated, Ralf, wud have put pressure on EW..♠3 frankaus: we got to the ♠ grand where xxx opp AKTxx ralfwil: W needs to have tke K in both majors panja: well..it depends on ♠ pips ... caitlin: I am told our operator might have got it wrong that indeed the club was played for 11 tricks caitlin: is that possible operator? yo_yo : all the years it’s been around and the multi still gains imps jaapfr: mb 0 emotions shown:) roswolf: declarer’s play was odd sengulerz: ama ˆ§ok bi ˆ ey deˆ iˆ medi.. D bˆ‰ rakmazdˆ‰ herhalde nezihk : bbo nun katkˆ‰sˆ‰nˆ‰ gˆ¶zardˆ‰ edemeyiz ovncylmz: +antalya yakop: avcˆ‰ ˆ u anda karamba karambita falan diyodur tez: 3nt nin hic sansi yok arigun: tebrikler okan’a, 2 kere insiyatif aldi hem bu el hem 7 eli ikisine de kazandi MolvaM: MVP= en deˆ erli oyuncu cindy: Jxxx is my least fav lead of all time..♠Q wygbe1: beatable on h lead ovncylmz: piki doner herhalde di mi?:) eccone: 2♣ gelene 2♠ daha iyi koksoy: bence bu board standart MolvaM: basketboldan devˆ irme bir deyim tez: iyi defans uzun kozdan caktirmak MolvaM: yerde ♣ tek bulacaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ biliyor en azˆ‰ndan tez: nafiz zorlu salvador assael ozgur bakan mert bilgen bulent aslan ibrahim mumcuoglu tebrikler:) tokay1975: salvoda cok oldu ama artik genclerin onunu acmasi lazim ¨ ¨ © - 111 - yusufb: tabiii 2 ve 3 de TEBRˆ KLERRR 82 takˆ ‰m uzun maraton tokay1975: kacinci bu tokay1975: hepsini kazaniyor mcarroll: yes but they have to find the lead..♣ K jaapfr: pls no leD wygbe1 : this may seem kind of unfair - and maybe it is, since we can see all the hands - but with e known to be short in diamonds it seems the heart is the percentage imp lead jaapfr: we are allowed to favor the underdogs imo:) ovncylmz: upps, 2nt+2? tez: koz kotu dagildiysa salvoda uzundur ralfwil: I cannot see how to make this..♣9 snorris: strange.. why ask pd if you are going to 7 anyway MolvaM: seyircilerin ˆ§oˆ unu aˆ§ˆ‰k odaya kaˆ§ ˆ‰rdˆ‰k malesef ovncylmz: seneye kis 4lude bir sekilde oynamak lazim:) bu sene yorumculuk yaptik, pistik artik:) eccone : bence seneye yorumculuga hazˆ‰r olucaksˆ‰n :P eccone: tek ˆ igan? vugraphzkg: trefi uˆ§uyomu diye claim yaptˆ‰ wilkinsona: west judges well to stay in a making contract....♣3 ralfwil: There is one possibility! panja: oh the 5♣ seems like an elite bid..it is good to make on the way..... werge: North will be happy, that pd has the ♠ 10... snorris: west will finesse s snorris: and hope for k of ♠ and j of in north irwinbo: i think he should have ducked a spade ovncylmz: 6tane kor almiyorlar mi? nezihk: evet wilkinsona: declarer can play to ruff hearts it seems..♣2 bg: club J not a good play now in wrong hand idblu: Joey...your call tokay1975: su an defans 5 love alabiliyor sonra alamayabilir ben garanti 5love goremedim idblu: just a guess, no reason ♠ over ..♣J sybarra: I simply dont lead it unless is pards suit, even then likely to lead the J cindy : E may hate leading from Jxxx too so decided to lead a strange card to try to disguise it :) bg: 165 specs know what to do now littletougher for N cindy: trying to get a heart shift maybe certainly © © ¨ ¨ © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) ¨ cant want a back idblu: agree wilkinsona: playing a low spade from dummy first may have been tricky for the defence idblu: maintains control shevek: this is a textbook multi two btw athene: well, it wasn’t the multi which gained imps athene: it was a multi in the other room too! dadim: :) othered1: This type of auction is a benefit of a big club system. East can have a great variety of hands for the 4♠ bid,since partner’s opening is limited...♣T wilkinsona: and/or diamonds snorris: ace of THEN clubs athene: it was North wading in over 3♣ sharkey: looks like Frue can escape for -1 here shevek: imo, 3♠ is the culprit sharkey: 1 -2♠-1 sharkey: What if E Major suit were reversed? athene: 3♠ is a bit pushy idblu: will probably eventually overtake the K to play a ♠ down and will be pleasantly surprised when the Q falls vulkan: doˆ u trefle el tutup alttan karo oynarsa dekleranˆ‰n tercihine kalacaktˆ‰ b_eymen: ewet MolvaM: masa baˆ ˆ‰nda biri olsa ve "beyler bu elde birˆ ey yok 2-3 fazla oluyor" deyip bordu kaldˆ‰rsa... zaman kazanˆ‰rdˆ‰k eccone: iletsin operatˆ¶r eccone: Kenan eccone: ! riyilikci: zafer haklarˆ‰nˆ‰ bitirdi, 9 lˆ¶ve ew al ˆ‰r herhalde exerdar: orasˆ‰ belirsiz mdgraham: ?..♣Q ahollan1: does North hand fit either of those 3 descriptions? chessmaste: playing East for a singleton K josj: maybe he did not realise might be 4-1 as well ovncylmz: burdan soyle bir teklifim var TBF’ye. nasil TSK icin ekstra bir takim aliniyorsa, gencler sampiyonasi sonunda 1. olan takim direkt katilsin mesela? eccone: semineremi? ovncylmz: gencler bu kadar yogun mac programini kaldiramiyor cunku:) tokay1975: simdi oyun cok ilginc hale geldi dicektim hakan 9u verdi ¨ © ¨ © © © ¨ © exerdar: masadaki alert eccone: ayarlamˆ‰slar agresif aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ pasif tutu ˆ riyilikci: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams _match.php?match=10101 tez : 9 ♣ super oynayanda 10 lu 4lu ♣ varsa empasa giriyor santyclz: NEXT!..♣5 tez: cek bakalim ne yiyecekler sqz ine oynayacak baylind: herkese merhaba mcarroll: And the finesse has to be taken the right way to keep E off lead and 9 tricks then available..♣8 athene: it’s basically hoping south has hearts and partner didn’t do anything with a borderline hand ovncylmz: uste cakmadi mi? riyilikci: karodan 4-1 daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰mlara ˆ¶nlem almak lˆ…ksˆ…mˆ…z bile var tokay1975: kendisi elden squiz olabilir cl asi almassa 5nci diaya bi cl atacak sonra 2he 1cl ve sonuncusuna sˆ‰kˆ‰sˆ‰r MolvaM: yere doˆ ru trefl oynandˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda sorun ˆ§ˆ‰kar mˆ‰ tez: seyircilerden cok fazla mesaj geliyor..bunlari cevaplamam imkansiz MolvaM: yoo ˆ¶yle deme seyirci velinimetimizdir tez: bisey daha biz yorumcular bu maci eglenceli ve egitime katkili hale getirmeye alisiyoruz..kimseyle dalga gecmiyoruz..sadece saka yapiyoruz nezihk: kˆ¶rleri elimine ettiˆ inde trefleri ˆ§ekip karo oynandˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda sorun ˆ§ˆ‰kabilir MolvaM: aˆ§ˆ‰k odadaki deklarasyon ve oyun gˆ ¶remiyoruz malesef nezihk: defansˆ‰n 3 karo almayˆ‰ ayarlamasu lazˆ‰m nezihk: diˆ er odada ayarladˆ‰lar ogoksel: 1pik 2 kˆ¶r 2 pik 3kˆ¶re salvo 4 pik demiˆ diˆ er odada tokay1975: yerden sp cevirmek 33 sp ve 32 cle yapiyor bunun yuzdesi yaklasik %20 diger oyun sp empasi gececek sp 42 olacak ve eldeki 5cli kurtarmasi lazim disarda v7234 varken hesabi biraz ... tokay1975: karisik ama bence yerden sp daha iyi yuzde MolvaM: sevgili yorumcular bu arada 82 takˆ‰m arasˆ‰nda 2. olan zabunoˆ lu takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰ da gˆ¶nˆ…lden kutlayalˆ‰m cindy : oh i agree with that just saying they always get it right against me..♣A sharkey: Shud W have raised to 4♣? snorris: dont think so ..has doubled - 112 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) snorris: thats enough snorris: first hurdle.. ralfwil: no chance snorris: no cindy: that looked good yo_yo: klinger went quietly in the other room athene: 3 is ok if you have the firm partnership ¨ agreement it’s non-forcing here yo_yo : i think the chinese ladies might have discussed that athene: yes, south passed it :) santyclz: E wasn’t nice enough to unblock the 9. ovncylmz: kuzeyin eliyle dbl atilabilir mi sizce? tokay1975: rakipler diilde MolvaM: 9lu markasˆ‰ biraz can sˆ‰kˆ‰cˆ‰ gibi MolvaM: finalde tabii ki 1 takˆ‰m yenilecekti idblu: or they play always lead ♠ vs NT :).. 4 snorris: bidding snorris: yes’ snorris: nice to have ♠ now.. thommos: but recovered idblu: ty :) idblu: no cooperation from the defence at all sengulerz: k-g 2♠ d-b da 3 yapˆ‰yor ovncylmz: az onceki turdaki salman-selekler maci 111-111 bitmisti eccone: en iyi oyun 8 li kˆ…cˆ…k kˆ…cˆ…k vahaboglu: bu durumda 2♣ e 2 yu uzununu se ˆ§ oynamak iyi tez: caka verse 3 oluyordu mdgraham: odd play in hearts.. 4 yo_yo: here’s the link to the standings: http:// www.jcbl.or.jp/game/nec/necfest09/nec.html ty tania chessmaste: So China will retake the lead tokay1975: 2nci cli cekmeden dedim cindy: has to take his 9 now..♠6 riyilikci: yusufun 5 cl deklerasyonu oldukˆ§a mantikli, Toros’da dengesiz el olsa 5 CL kaybedemez yakop: ˆ u ana kadar masada 4 tane ˆ ilem kactˆ ‰ ve de 2 tane battˆ‰ eccone: veya farketmez zaten eccone: A karo bile cekilebilir riyilikci: as laro ˆ§ekip yerden kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k oynamak faranti eccone: evet tez: olur demedim..aman ha yanlis anlasilmasin riyilikci: oynayanˆ‰n onlu dˆ¶rt tane trefli varsa tek batˆ‰ran 9lu tez: yeterki ortak dogru anlasin:) ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 113 - ¨ © tez: ♣ oynarsa tez: havaya cakmak deniyor buna tez: cakarsa kucuk verip onorleri koruyoruz MolvaM: teknik terimler konusuna ˆ§ok hakimsin tezcan :) tez: merci pasam:) tez: ingilizcesi ne bilen var mi?havaya cakmanin? tez: ruff to the air imis:) wilkinsona: I notice the 1N alerted..♠2 vugraphzkg: hayˆ‰r vugraphzkg: ˆ§akmadˆ‰ gˆ¶rdˆ… sanmˆ‰ˆ oyuncu ovncylmz: enteresan seyler oluyor su an ovncylmz: takimlar isinma problemi yasiyorlar bence, ya da erken yoruldular ovncylmz: ilk gun hep zor olur bu tur turnuvalarda:) cindy: hehe..♠4 cindy: and ♣ vs slams idblu: that too...part of sayc :) fabsayc: i will test that idblu: :) fabsayc: and by the way, i don’t play sayc idblu: win 5 Imps for caution ralfwil : and perhaps more than 9. W is under pressure josj: but playing the Q probably cannot cost othered1: This declarer is taking everything not nailed down..♠A caitlin: ok ....10 tricks idblu: the ♣8 may grow up riyilikci: Bir sonraki maˆ§ta Bodrum-Valentino ve Burdur-ˆ zmir Bˆ…yˆ…kˆ ehir maˆ§larˆ‰nˆ‰ n galipleri Vugraphta olacaklar, Maˆ§ saati 14:30 tez: tayfunda dami koyarsa olacak MolvaM : okan, ahmet, zafer, irfan, ufuk ve tayfuna da tebriklerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr yusufb: 2-ZABUNOGLU 3-YILANKIRAN 4VALENTˆ NO bide ben 25 falan olmuˆ uzdur kendimide tebrik edim:) baylind: tebrikler yusuf wilkinsona: take care, now.....♣7 othered1 : why set out on that line then pull trumps? sybarra: think we cash soon ovncylmz: wow:P deniz_t: bence gˆ…neyin pas geˆ§mesi sanki iyi deˆ il, sonuˆ§ olarak ortagˆ‰ 3 dedi bu kesinlikle iyi el demek , o anlamda gˆ…ney bence pas dememeliydi. Tabiki ortaklˆ‰k anlaˆ masˆ‰ saygˆ‰ duymak ... deniz_t: gerekir. ogoksel: 9+4=13 fark 12 idi:( ¨ ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) © idblu: moi aussi..... 3 sharkey: yes - looked at nothing wasted in © and everything working - but E wud have passed snorris: can contain a singelton? thommos: 1 showed majors or minors thommos: 2♣ was pass or correct thommos: Bye all ralfwil: bye deniz_t: herkese slm vahaboglu: Varoˆ lu takˆ‰mˆ‰ herhalde 2 yu natˆ…rel oynuyorlar MolvaM: karo as altˆ‰ndan oynuyor olabilir mi? MolvaM: olamaz. ˆ¶yle olsa karo as karo oynardˆ ‰ herhalde MolvaM: karo valeyi dˆ…ˆ ˆ…rmeye filan ˆ§alˆ‰ ˆ ˆ‰rdˆ‰ nezihk: biraz heyecan katayˆ‰m diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…n ˆ…yor tokay1975: ibo icin zor bi bekleyiˆ bu MolvaM : gene de kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k karo iyi oyun. rakibi dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ndˆ…rtmekte yarar var. serhat: tref oynasa nasˆ‰l yapacak? K alˆ‰r karo oynar A alˆ‰r tref oynar? tek care bu.. is Bulo ya kaldˆ‰! ogoksel: Tayfun Bˆ…lenti zorlayˆ‰p duruyor bu elde..Hata yapacakmˆ‰ diye MolvaM: eˆ er karo asˆ‰ tayfundaysa trefl as ibo da olmalˆ‰ diyor tokay1975: bulent dogrusunu bulur tokay1975: bahislar aciliyomu paˆ am yusufb: J yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran takˆ‰mˆ‰da 25 yaˆ ortalamasˆ‰yla son 8 kaldˆ‰ onlarada tebriklerrrr sharkey: that was EW..... 2 Walddk4: In some places you alert weak NTs snorris: like east before? ovncylmz: ancak uzatma boardlari oynanmis ve antalya-selekler 16.takim olarak bu etaba ciktilar:) nezihk: hamle yanlˆ‰ˆ , ˆ¶nce trefl oynamalˆ‰ ydˆ‰ tokay1975: h le cˆ‰ksa oynayan 2 tur hu alip as sp cekiyo dami atmassa bati sp oynayip damina birakiyor yatirip elden cli 9 love.. 8 nezihk: evet riyilikci: karo ve garanti demek istedim :) MolvaM: yusuf ˆ§ok iyi oynuyor genelde ama ona kaˆ ˆ‰t gelmiyor santyclz: N is asking for an undo...♣6 tokay1975: h le cˆ‰kˆ‰p as spe damˆ‰ atip batirabilirdi nezihk : hele kor damˆ‰ da bulmasaydˆ‰ batacakdˆ‰ eccone: :) © ¨ © ¨ MolvaM: dˆ…zelteyim. canlˆ‰ skorlar ˆ u adreste varmˆ‰ˆ . eerbil: ah 1 overcall’u ! tez: !9 luyu gokhan bende bisey yok senin icin oynuyorum anladi tez: ♣9 ogoksel : AQx su olan dekleran bˆ¶ylemi oynardi peki?sanˆ‰rˆ‰m hayˆ‰r snorris: ??..♠8 snorris: south sleeping? ralfwil: or VU MolvaM: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams _round.php?round=1410 idblu: what does it stand for?.. 3 chessmaste: They have been wobbling in both rooms over the last few deals .. 5 ovncylmz: zayif nt neden acmadi ki? tokay1975: evet en cok 8 hp gider ona sharkey: probably W didnt feel he cud afford to pass 3 - in case pd had ♠ - so I don’t think 3♠ that unreasonable view his strong fallback ♣ suit..♣4 vulkan: Aydoˆ dularˆ‰n stilinin agresiv olmasˆ ‰na raˆ men bu elde 3ntye gelememeleri ilginˆ§ ovncylmz: 1kor 4+kor vulkan: 4333 el dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda 4lˆ… major varken 1nt aˆ§mˆ‰yolar galiba ovncylmz: yok aciyorlar ovncylmz: ama 3.den gerek duymadi herhalde ovncylmz: 2M kontrati kacabilir diye ovncylmz: bi sistemde bir eli birden fazla sekilde acabilme durumu hakkinda ne dusunuyosunuz? arigun: onun bir sistem olmadigini ... ovncylmz: :) nezihk: kˆ¶tˆ… baˆ langˆ‰ˆ§ yapan DEniz takˆ ‰mˆ‰nda iˆ ler daha sonra iyiye gitti ovncylmz: 1h-1sp 3lu olunca ovncylmz : simdi 2spye 2nt dese de 4spden korkuyor:) aruf: mola iˆ e yaramˆ‰ˆ anlaˆ ˆ‰lan kabexnuf: :) ovncylmz: 11le isi zor ama sistemsel olarak ovncylmz: cunku sistem dengesiz eller uzerine kurulmus ovncylmz: ruyama girdi benim hatta dun aksam:) 3acislarini falan gorsek keske su son 5elde vulkan: 1 ♠ nin 3lˆ… olabileceˆ ini Nevzat da biliyor, 4 ♠ den korkmaz Fikret 2nt derken ovncylmz: 1sp 4+ sistemde arigun: fikretin korkusu ortaginda 4lu olabilir, aksi takdirde 11 puan ortagini rengine 2 onor destek, yanda kaliteli bir renk var ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © - 114 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) nezihk: as alˆ‰p kor as ele kozu alˆ‰p trefli oynayacak tokay1975: hep derim bulent gibi oyuncun varsa oynatcaksin:)))) serhat: J de cekmeyecek bence serhat: Q h bircan: yusufun yeri dar ralfwil: crossruff!.. 7 xenya: W would have done better to unblock s perhaps -- still there must be a way for 9 tricks sengulerz: yalnˆ‰z.. bu kadar kafa kafaya giden bir maˆ§ta +1 ler falan da ˆ¶nemli tabii nezihk: karo ˆ§akarsa kor partajˆ‰na kalˆ‰r, yine de oluyor kabexnuf: herˆ ey guzel bu bord vahaboglu: ancak skorlar update edilmemiˆ MolvaM: nedense rua-valeden hangisinin koyacaˆ ˆ‰mˆ‰zˆ‰n pek ˆ¶nemli olmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ durumlarda genellikle doˆ rusunu biliriz. ahollan1 : in the other room 3 makes more sense because the 1 opener was limited by failure to open 1♣.. T exerdar: claim MolvaM: Nafiz_Salvo yu ˆ zmir de yenemeyip daha da hˆ‰rslananlar iˆ§in ilk fˆ‰rsat Kadirli:) 15 Mart 2 Seans ˆ kili http://kadirlibric.spaces.live.com baylind: yusuf genelde dummy oluyor:) ahollan1: here, South could have held bigger hand.. J wilkinsona: these trumps were made for ruffing.. 8 fabsayc: is caitlin around?.. 9 ogoksel: 12-14 NT ye karˆ ˆ‰ transfere atˆ‰lan konturun atak deˆ il puan gˆ¶stermesi uygulanan bir yˆ¶ntem. ovncylmz: board 9 diger masada 3nt oynaniyor tokay1975: guneyin kalan kartlari qxx h x dia q10 cl olsa ovncylmz: o da -2 oldu tokay1975: o zaman dia cakip yere dogru cl oynarsa idblu: It is ACBL propaganda.. Q tokay1975: yani hu 4lu diasu 3lu olsa cli kacirarak yapiyo simdi elleri iyi saydiysa dedigim gibi oynayip batavilir yusufb : hiˆ§ puan gelmiyo burda gordum 20 puan 25 puan bana devamlˆ‰ 3-5 puan :) ovncylmz: daha enteresan seyler olabilirdi bu boardda.. 6 eccone: karo ele cekilmedimi nezihk: hiˆ§ onlara gerek yoktu, ˆ imdi karosu yok kor var diye oynarsa batacak © ¨ © © ¨ © ¨ © © © - 115 - ¨ ovncylmz: -1 le iyi kurtardi izmir takimi.. A ogoksel: Bu elde geˆ§erli deˆ il ama uyandˆ‰ rma pozisyonuna kalˆ‰nca iˆ iˆ ten geˆ§miˆ olabiliyor othered1: and now an overtrick en passant.. 9 wilkinsona: but 10 tricks ok ovncylmz: diger masada da 2nt+2 oldu ogoksel : Dikkatsizlik yada yorgunluk hata yapmasˆ‰na sebep olabilirdi.Normal ˆ artlarda bˆ ¶yle bir hata yapˆ‰lmasˆ‰ beklenmiyordu bence fabsayc: actually it started off as anything on general chart.. 5 tokay1975: yusuf bende kendimi tebrik ediyorum biz ilk 82 ye kalamadik.. 2.. T ¨ ¨ ¨ © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 3N c 2♠ 12 this/total IMPs Quantum 6 113 Primabridge 74 W -3 150 E 2 110 12 5 ♠5 5 842 5 6 K653 6 ♣K J 6 5 3 ♠K 8 N ♠ Q10 7 6 3 Q J65 A73 W E Q7 A10 8 4 S ♣ A10 8 4 2 ♣Q ♠A J 9 4 2 8 8 K10 9 8 J92 7 ♣9 7 7 120 W: Andonov W 1 1N 2 3♣ p ¨ © N: Nanev Open S: Mihov N E p 1♠ p 2 p 2♠ p 3N p ¨3,4,9,Q §9,2,K,Q ª3,4,K,§6 §8,J,ª6,§7 ªA,§4,3,ª7 ©A,9,5,8 ª9,§A,¨K,T ¨ E: Popov S p p p p ª8,5,T,J ¨5,A,2,7 ©Q,4,3,T ¨6,8,J,©6 ª2,§T,©2,ªQ ©7,K,J,§5 ndemirev: right :) ..♠K..©J..©A..¨6 ndemirev: actually regardless of range i would just bid 3nt :) ..1¨!..p..1♠ ndemirev: but just wondered ..p..1N roswolf: i suppose 2¨ is any gameforce..p..2¨! ..p..2©..p..2♠..p..3♣ #1 N:: #3 S:: #5 E:: #7 W:: #9 S:: #11 E:: #13 S:: #2 W:: #4 N:: #6 W:: #8 N:: #10 S:: #12 E:: ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ declarer.. 3 roswolf: yes this will be hard if not impossible to make.. 4.. 9.. Q ndemirev: this hand is too tough to play on those breaks ndemirev: will probably end up -1 or -2..♠8..♠5 lestergold: i can see 2 dim tricks a club a spade and three hearts = only seven ..♠T lestergold: anoher in the wash in an endplay or misdfenc but a full nine i cant see..♠J roswolf: i agree mike more like -2..♣9..♣2..♣ K..♣Q.. 5 lestergold: unlucky really many other days 3n would roll in here lestergold: after all combined 24 points with 2 5 card suits good imtermediate cards all suits well stopped is not an unreasonable 3N.. A.. 2.. 7..♠3..♠4..♠K..♣6 roswolf : this could be -3 and 9 imps to the leaders.. Q.. 4.. 3.. T..♣8..♣J..♠6..♣7.. 6.. 8.. J.. 6..♠A ndemirev: need 3-3 S with J onside as a straightforward chance with a few secondary chances roswolf: only 7 imps ..♣4..♣3..♠7..♠2..♣T.. 2..♠Q ndemirev: you always want to be in those games some of them make vugraphb1: 6... and no diference between 2 and 3 down.. A.. 9.. 5.. 8.. 7.. K.. J..♣5..♠ 9..♣A.. K.. T roswolf: only 6 imps actually ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ © © © © © © © © ¨ ¨ ndemirev: 2D must be GF lestergold: i fear prima may be returning some imps vugraphb1: 3N has some play..p..3N..p..p..p lestergold: not unreasonable to bid up to 3n on the e/w cards but the lie of the cards kis not the wind blowing int tyhe right direction so to speak lestergold: even a trcik given on lead is unlikely to see this make mind u diamond very helpful for - 116 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 3N c 2♠ 12 this/total IMPs Primabridge 74 Quantum 6 113 W -3 150 E 2 110 12 5 ♠5 5 842 5 6 K653 6 ♣K J 6 5 3 ♠K 8 N ♠ Q10 7 6 3 Q J65 A73 W E Q7 A10 8 4 S ♣ A10 8 4 2 ♣Q ♠A J 9 4 2 8 8 K10 9 8 J92 7 ♣9 7 7 120 W: V.Aronov W 1 1N p ¨ N: S.Skorchev Closed E: J.Stefanov S: B.Popov N E S p 1♠ p p 2♠ p p §7,A,6,Q ¨4,9,Q,K ªA,8,5,6 ¨7,3,T,J ªQ,9,§8,©4 #1 S:: #3 E:: #5 S:: #7 W:: #9 E:: §2,3,ª3,§9 §5,©7,ª2,§4 ª4,K,©8,ª7 ¨2,©5,¨5,8 ¨A,©9,6,¨6 #2 W:: #4 N:: #6 S:: #8 S:: #10 E:: mariner1: could see a double part score swing frankaus: anybody suport 1♣ by north - i do barbyh: I would cindy: yes mariner1: well you don’t compete if you don’t bid I hear frankaus: zar followers would open it barbyh: who is zar? wilkinsona : ..but assuming partner made a penalty x of 1N... I doubt if I would have found west pass snorris: strange.. mcarroll: I suspect -1 snorris: probably ralfwil: With better defence EW had had a much bigger lead werge: Then you still make it snorris: right:) - 117 - werge : Ruffing finesse in ¨ gives another discard idblu: possible p/o cindy: no way marlowepi: E has an opener idblu: nice hand in the W idblu: 19HCP but looks like a lot more mdgraham: not to worry :) ralfwil: 11 tricks in ♠ werge: 1430 - without a -lead... ralfwil: yes sharkey: pick up for Oz :) shevek: hard not to bid 4♠ here santyclz: Good opening lead. idblu: gave nothing away wygbe1: wasnt that claim premature? jaapfr: why mcarroll: not really wygbe1: guess not, sorry yo_yo: Nerves are showing here MolvaM: 16 bordluk maˆ§lar daha kritik oluyor dadim: teklifini deˆ erlendiriceklerdir heralde ovunc ovncylmz: murat abi deftere yazsana bunu cidden:) kabexnuf: ama seminere diye yazsin :) eccone: Q♠ in altˆ‰na mustafaozk: ben kapalˆ‰da bulacaklarˆ‰nˆ‰ tahmin ediyorum oyuncu olarak agresiflerdir her ikiside sengulerz: geˆ§en sene son eli 1 fazla yaptˆ‰ rarak bir turnuvada finali kaybeden biri olarak iyi bilirim bunun acˆ‰sˆ‰nˆ‰ nezihk: 5spe kadar sorun yok tokay1975: cli bilirse tez: slm:) riyilikci: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams _round.php?round=1410 MolvaM: okay 9 yerine 10 girseydi? serhat: yanˆ‰ldˆ‰m tref oynadˆ‰:) yusufb: diyarbakˆ‰r Dˆ SKˆ takˆ‰mˆ‰nada tebriklerrrr onlarˆ‰ yenen 2takˆ‰m finalde bulu ˆ tu:) cindy: i would open it in 1st seat 2nd seat 3rd seat and 4th seat..1 !..11-15p, 1+!D marlowepi: personally would open N hand in a coma, in ANY seat. pd could have: Axxxx Qx xxxx Qx fabsayc: east worth 2NT then quick sign-off sharkey: Operator said one of the pairs lost their convention card - thus alert of weak NT proper fabsayc: play seems to go in bursts, which is hard on operators © ¨ ¨ ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) ahollan1: big ♣ -- and big interference chessmaste: A solid result from the Open Room MolvaM: bir bordda yapˆ‰lan hatayˆ‰ telafi etmek iˆ§in az sayˆ‰da bord oluyor akgun: 1c 5+c 11-19 ovncylmz: yok yok Kis 4luye:) MolvaM: not aldˆ‰m. pik dam ataˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰n hemen altˆ‰na ovncylmz: :) eccone: ahaha ovncylmz: o sayfa cop olmaz di mi:? aruf: slm arkaˆ lar arigun: ortaklik anlasmasinin disinda hernekadar 3 seviyesinde de olsa basit renk overcall’u, guney ’in passina kesinlikle katiliyorum aksi takdirde 800 vermekten iflahimiz kesilir :) tokay1975: ama unutmamak lazim biz 4 elide goruyoruz masada hersey farklˆ‰ riyilikci: 12 bord sonunda yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran-zabuno ˆ lu 15-51 frankaus : link to zar - http://www.123expfun.com/t/01151266021/..p snorris: allways stealing norths suit this west.. bg: 5 boards to go 11 imps diff lets see what happens athene: unlucky to have a trump loser here sharkey: especially when you play catch-up athene: should be flat ahollan1: not so big :( idblu: I can’t see e/w finding ♠’s ahollan1: 1♠ = 2-suits same rank [♣ & or & ♠] ovncylmz: pik atagina kucuk konmasina ragmen, rua oturulmamis, oturulup as kor kor oynansa, 2nt 2 olacakti riyilikci: refresh yapmayˆ‰ unutmayˆ‰n MolvaM: bu devre bordlarˆ‰ iyi brice daha yatkˆ ‰n ellerdi. mariner1: http://public.aci.on.ca/ zpetkov/TheDistributions.html..1 © ¨ ♠ marlowepi: i would open 1C on that hand even if kibitzing at euchre barbyh: what is going on here? Walddk4: 2♠ likely MSS = Minor Suit Stayman marlowepi: in any seat for me, but surely in 3rd at these colors irwinbo: anubody double? idblu: moi sharkey: EW will sac ahollan1: we’ve had FOUR 12-imp swings and only three 1-imp exchanges yo_yo: now will Liu compete? santyclz: Looking more and more like a version of SuperCRaSh. idblu: dbl = o-7 ? josj: easy enough with strong club roswolf: yes pressure is certainly on and fatigue may play its part too b_eymen: dbl dan sonra baya kritik bir board MolvaM: bu bakˆ‰mdan gˆ…ˆ§lˆ… takˆ‰mlar maˆ§ˆ‰n mˆ…mkˆ…n olduˆ unca ˆ§ok sayˆ‰da bordla oynanmasˆ‰nˆ‰ isterler, vulkan: g ˆ leme gidebilir eccone: majˆ¶rler demek icin uygun bi el ovncylmz: giricek mecburen eccone: slm arigun: 4♠ i demenin tek gercekci yolu, bence dogu yukseltse idi simdi guney’in tekrar dbl ile uyandirmasi ile mumun olabilirdi nezihk: evet MolvaM: sn federasyon baˆ kanˆ‰mˆ‰zdan aldˆ ‰ˆ ˆ‰mˆ‰z bilgiye gˆ¶re bordlar 2 masada oynandˆ‰kˆ§a giriliyormu. sˆ…per bir uygulama bu. teˆ ekkˆ…rler :) MolvaM: diˆ er maˆ§ta ˆ§ok IMP israfˆ‰ oluyor galiba :) tokay1975: aynˆ‰ boardlarsa bu masada toplam 6 ,mp o masada 66 MolvaM: belki gˆ¶khan yanlˆ‰ˆ yapmazdˆ‰ koksoy: 5 minˆ¶r iyi baraj 300 veriyor MolvaM: gˆ¶khan ve okay ˆ§iftine minˆ¶rler ˆ§ok geliyor galiba. MolvaM: flaˆ haber: kadirli turnuvasˆ‰nda, bu ˆ ampiyonanˆ‰n flaˆ ˆ§ifti emre paksoy ve orhan ekinci de oynayacaklarmˆ‰ˆ ... relrikas : bende modaya uyup kendimi tebrik ediyorum 23 yaˆ ortalamasˆ‰ eskisehirli genclerle 17. falan olduk :) gonullerin 17.si ... cindy: oops..p snorris: but south must be careful and not to try to chash the ♠s first santyclz: Probably 5-8 or similar. mariner1: http://public.aci.on.ca/ zpetkov/ calculator..1N ralfwil: 4♠ on EW wilkinsona: yep mdgraham: Doubtful if East will let 4♠ play sharkey: I think - but 4♠ makes it difficult werge: But will E/W find the -suit now? yo_yo: there’s some very talented players in the Hackett team, they will bounce back after a good night’s sleep othered1: south does have a 12-count, and 2♣ is normal. Rebid will be interesting © © - 118 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) idblu: OK..some values mcarroll: closer now as they found the marlowepi: i might if you reverse the majors, but © ruff fo beat 4♠ in OR b_eymen: 5 iyi gibi ogoksel: 2 e atˆ‰lan Dbl uyandˆ‰rmamˆ‰ yoksa gerˆ§ek puanmˆ‰ belli olmuyor bu ˆ ekilde oynanmaz ise MolvaM: multi ye katˆ‰lˆ‰yor muyuz? riyilikci: mesela 6 kart trefl olsa yakop: 9 nˆ‰lu elde cogu seyirci ˆ ilemi bulur diye duˆ unuyorum MolvaM: bu masa ˆ§ok tutumlu MolvaM: soran seyircilerimize aˆ§ˆ‰klama: evet aynˆ‰ bordlar oynanˆ‰yor idblu: not counting his Jacks..p snorris: does n dear 3nt? othered1: Ew have lots of duplication, but likely time to avoid going past 5 ahollan1: either CC has changed, or Takayama thinks West hand is too good for 10-13 NT opener athene: oh yes ahollan1: per 2007 CC --- vs big ♣: DBL= , 1 =♠, 1 =color [♣&♠ or & ], 1♠=shape [ ♣&H or &♠] 1N=rank [♣& or &♠] idblu: then he bid wrong ahollan1: partnership check -- is 2 forcing or not? drum roll please idblu: must have changed the cc santyclz: Hadn’t seen that defense before. ovncylmz: evet ozgur hakli nezihk: burada dbl 5 trefl veya defans arasˆ‰nda teklifi deˆ ilmidir? sengulerz: ˆ ekilde gˆ¶rˆ…ldˆ…ˆ ˆ… gibi o 1 imp le ˆ¶ne geˆ§ti izmir takˆ‰mˆ‰ eccone: 4♠ demek zor ama gelinirse birtek ♠ atagˆ‰na batˆ‰yor eccone: 9 bide :P tez: 2nt diyecek tez: goksu 3♠ ile daveti kabul edecek vahaboglu: ˆ ilemle ilgilenirler herhalde tez: 3♠ mariner1: I can barely spell zar though..2♠! ..invitation cindy: i would open it in a train, i would open it on a plane marlowepi: invcented by Dr. Zarkov cindy: is that forcing ? Walddk4: 2NT equal length perhaps snorris: 3 ♠ singelton? snorris: 4 might be good now cindy: i dont like much about the S hand © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ © © - 119 - ¨ © ¨ © © © probably not on the atcual hand idblu: N can protect idblu: E hand useless to W athene: i didn’t notice south’s hand shevek: things getting even worse.... athene: no way you are passing 4♠ with that idblu: up here we play Mickey Mouse...dbl=maj, NT = min ahollan1: oops - typing error -- 1♠=rank, 1N= shape sorry about that jaapfr: again a good board ew jaapfr: 4h on eccone: 4♠ denilse olucak buda eccone: bu zondurumunda evet riyilikci : tabi ki ˆ¶yle, sanirim bu ortakliˆ in overcall stili ile ˆ§ok ilgili, nezihk: ona gerek kalmaz ikinci lˆ¶vede alˆ‰nca yer ˆ§aka el ˆ§aka gemek zorunda nezihk: direkt empas atmazsa sorun yok ozgull: normalde sˆ¶ylemesi zor zona geldiler MolvaM: evet tekrar maˆ§a dˆ¶nelim tokay1975: o zaman gitmeyelim kadirliye birinci belli simdiden:) fabsayc: limit raise..p cindy: or his trumps snorris: good for him othered1: A nice spot and a good stop after a 15 point 1N opening. snorris: as not to weak e-w up idblu: u r forgiven vulkan: kˆ¶r partjˆ‰na ˆ lem kabaktˆ‰ :) MolvaM: batˆ‰nˆ‰n 3karo aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ biraz frenledi sanˆ‰rˆ‰m b_eymen: hersey tamam 7 ♣ demezler demi ˆ¶vˆ …nˆ§? ovncylmz: 6c:) b_eymen: karo rua soramˆ‰yo ne olcak ovncylmz: ama rua sorma durumu falan olursa isler karisik deniz_t: bizler yaˆ landˆ‰k galiba yeni jenerasyon briˆ§ˆ§iler gˆ…zel anlaˆ ˆ‰yorlar:) deniz_t: arigˆ…n hocada haklˆ‰dˆ‰r kendince fakat ben gene de anlaˆ malˆ‰ ortaklˆ‰klarda 3 diyen elin 15+ ve ihtiyaˆ§sˆ‰z bir deklare diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yorum. vahaboglu: tek olan, fiti ˆ ilem daveti tez: saniyorum.. tutusu herhangi bir renkte kisalik anlamina geliyor nezihk: nafizi tutmak zor gibi vahaboglu: 3NT sorar tez: ♠ tek demek degil ¨ © © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) vahaboglu: teki tez: 3nt ile teki sorarsiniz vahaboglu: veya ˆ imdi RDB tez: 3 yu mumu dedi sanirim barbyh: perhaps he thinks he has a runout suit..p marlowepi: apart from this hand and these pairs, ¨ it is worth checking with our regular partners whether the sequence by E is forcing on W idblu: that too snorris: q of ♣ snorris: just kidding.. idblu: but vulnerability a big concern for n/s werge: by yo_yo: but the Chinese ladies are playing very well ( as usual) mcarroll: 2 part scores in a row? idblu: too high already xenya: meanwhile the gap has narrowed down to 21 imps wygbe1: low spade will beat 4s, but 5d is cold ew ovncylmz: 4c yi as sorusu oynuyorlar mi acaba? aruf: Turgay abi sonunu gˆ¶rmedik daha :) akgun: KG in yaˆ ortalamasˆ‰ 50 civari yanilmiyorsam:) aruf: uygun el bencede ovncylmz: cengiz abi dbl kotu mu sence? mustafaozk: bence 2h dbl uygun bu kadar kapalˆ ‰ renginiz varken pd 3c dese bile 3d diyebiliriz ovncylmz: elimizde trefl+pik olsa belki tamam da arigun: yaninda da 4 tane ♠ var demek degil heralde, 4 tane ♠ olmasa guney neden konussun ki ovncylmz: karo+Pik var ovncylmz: trefli duzelticez mecburen ovncylmz: ama pike harika oluyor el mustafaozk: piki kaˆ§ˆ‰rmamak lazˆ‰m mustafaozk: diˆ er masa dbllˆ‰ 4 pikte tokay1975: koz cˆ‰kˆ‰sˆ‰na yetmiyo sanirim exerdar: 2cl gazilli olmasˆ‰ lazˆ‰m eccone: 2♣ gazilli eccone: 2 8+ MolvaM: federasyonumuzdan beklediˆ imiz 1 baˆ ka hizme ise, mˆ…mkˆ…nse hiˆ§ bir takˆ‰mˆ‰ n elenmeyip herkesin finale kalmasˆ‰nˆ‰ saˆ lamasˆ‰ tez: mumcu frankaus: X would be lot of pain for fushida..p marlowepi : it is hard to be a handhog with a yarborough, but S achieved that difficult feat with the 2H bid snorris: has to lead ♣s from table though snorris: so ace of s and ♠ to ace and... ¨ ¨ werge: Safety play now - ♠ and then ♣ from dummy! cindy: hmm eccone: gecen eldenmi bahsediyoruz ovncylmz: yes ovncylmz: zayif nt defansi ogoksel: ters zon durumunda girmek istemedi araya MolvaM: ben 1 piki tercih edebilirdim eccone: KXX olmasˆ‰ kritik bi tek eccone: bu yˆ…zden 1♠ te mantˆ‰klˆ‰ master yusufb: bbo yayˆ‰nˆ‰ ve mac skorlarˆ‰nˆ‰n cok detaylˆ‰ ve hˆ‰zlˆ‰ girilmesinde katkˆ‰sˆ ‰ olan herkese ozellikle TESEKKˆ R barbyh: d opener wd be devastating..♣7 sharkey: actually best sac view potential ♣ ruffs in contract fabsayc: this double is going to backfire fabsayc: because it surely asks for a club lead athene: maybe west will be a hero and lead a small spade from hand b_eymen: 4 mu 5 mˆ… paˆ am eccone: bence tabi eccone: nacizhane tez : AQ87 EGER GOKHANDA olsa idi tek batiran defans ♣ 9luyu oynamak olacakti Walddk4: Presumably..♣A wilkinsona : declare can establish diamonds without letting south in snorris: well done e-w wilkinsona: well done by west wilkinsona: thats a push by West marlowepi: to say the least idblu: lead best othered1: But east doesn’t know of the duplication yet thommos: J♠ and 4 trumps are good ralfwil: ??????? mdgraham: wow, this is dangerous ahollan1: WOW --- what a bizarre swing jaapfr: any lead beats 4s? MolvaM: kuzey 1nt aˆ§ablse idi gˆ…ney ˆ leme giderdi muhtemelen b_eymen: artˆ‰k iˆ ler karˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰ b_eymen: tref nasˆ‰l tutucak bakalˆ‰m deniz_t: 4 adet ♠ olmasˆ‰ gerekmiyor zaten cengiz hoca ben kiˆ isel olarak 3 deklaresinin iyi el olmasˆ‰ gerektiˆ ini dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yorum. mustafaozk: Isparta iˆ§in iyi bir board tokay1975 : kapali odada mehmet kˆ‰sa yoldan 6h demis fahir: emriniz olur Paˆ am :) © © ¨ © © ¨ - 120 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) MolvaM: :) MolvaM: esta tokay1975: bende tum takˆ‰mlarin finallere alˆ ‰nmasini talep edicektim istanbulda elenen takˆ ‰mlar icin vugraphzkg: yok koˆ§ dedi tez: yok dbl varmis gormedim.ozur tez: ♣ dam oynarsa batacak MolvaM: ˆ§aka almazsa prensipte pik ˆ§ift pasˆ‰ ile yapabilir ama muhtemelen batacak cindy: interesting im not sure i would think its forcing..♣6 sybarra: hmm 4 ♣? idblu: and how to find out othered1: 2 looks like they’re ignoring west’s opening. athene: i think that’s asking a lot though :) santyclz: Makes 1nt so -1 is no loss. idblu: looks like a push...same contract in the OR nafiz: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams_ event.php?event=172&stage=368 sonuˆ§larla ilgili adres /link/url tokay1975: 11 imp varoslu takˆ‰mˆ‰na nezihk: pik kararˆ‰na 6 H var, rahminin dediˆ ine katˆ‰lˆ‰yorum, bu devrede ˆ§ok alˆ‰ˆ veriˆ olabilir sengulerz: ♠ atak edilebilirse ˆ§ok can sˆ‰kˆ‰ cˆ‰ ew iˆ§in riyilikci: ˆ§ˆ‰ktˆ‰ bile sengulerz : anlaˆ aˆ‰ldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ kadarˆ‰yla kantar ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰yorlar sengulerz: bu el bence uzun bir sˆ…rede oynanacak.. ˆ§ok seˆ§enek var sengulerz: 4 eli gˆ¶rˆ…nce problem yok ♣ A ♣ verip rahatlˆ‰kla yapabilir ama ♣ empasˆ‰ geˆ §erken batabilir.. ˆ¶yle de oynamasˆ‰ zor yakop: acaba ekincide k korde olsa ne diyecekti tez: 2 zon forsingi.2♠ 6li ♠ garanti etmiyor MolvaM : zafer 2nt diyerek durumu araˆ tˆ‰ rabilirdi tabii ama tez : bbo vugraf simdiye kadar gordugum en iyilerden biriydi..brawo baran snorris: ♣ lead??..♣Q marlowepi: i would pass 2C and hope to make it idblu: what system are they playing...can someone explain the auction ralfwil: no problems with A on side othered1: nice lead, not to capitulate honors fabsayc: nothing much matters ahollan1: duck from both hands would be interesting chessmaste: Should be a flat board vulkan: Batˆ‰nˆ‰n bu elle aˆ§arken dˆ…ˆ ˆ… ¨ ¨ ¨ - 121 - nmesi lazˆ‰m, 3nt hiˆ§ dememesi lazˆ‰m... eccone: gercek puan olsa belki 2 ya dbl atar sonra 2 bidaha eccone: bunlar aanlasmayla ilili birazcˆ‰k ogoksel: ˆ¶yle oynanmalˆ‰ eccone: ters zon durumu tehlikeli ama el oldukca iyi eccone: 4 -3 bile rahatca oynayabilir yakop: irfan zafer iyi bi ortaklˆ‰k ve bulamadˆ ‰lar ben kandi sistemimizde nasˆ‰l konuˆ urduk diye baktˆ‰m sonuˆ§ ne sizce:) eccone: 7 ♣ :P yakop: 1nt 2sp(trefe transfer) 3 tref 3 h:(singleton) yakop: 5 trefi 1 gram gecemeyiz muhtemel 4 pik oynardˆ‰k yakop: 4 pik ˆ aka:) tez : madem bunlari biliyordun niye izmirde degilsin denebilir tabiki.. MolvaM: 3nt nin kuzeyden oynanmasˆ‰nˆ‰n daha doˆ ru olduˆ unu dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ndˆ… tez: zaferin 3 u ♣ ten korkuyorum demek baylind: bu arada belediye takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰ cal ˆ‰stˆ‰ran taktik veren Sn recepkoken hocaya tesekkurler yusufb: nafiz abiyle salvo hiˆ§ bi ˆ lemi solemiyelim diye anlaˆ mˆ‰ˆ lar heralde bunuda dememiˆ ler taktik galiba riyilikci: vugraph ekibi, Emrah ˆ en, Kenan ˆ z kurt, Taner ˆ elik ve Baran ˆ etin wilkinsona: heart lead OR..♣2 sharkey: that helps a lot ralfwil: Unbelievable lead!!! E showing minors!! irwinbo: yes and a diamond switch werge: But how can North stand 5 ♣...? Walddk4: They can’t bounce back if they are dropping out of the top 8, and they are very close at this point sharkey: I think S is too good for 4♠ Walddk4: This is the last round of the qualifying and only the top 8 teams advance sharkey: he wants to make the Bulletin.... vugraphzkg: gˆ…ney yeri gˆ¶rˆ…nce biraz kˆ‰ zdˆ‰ ama kˆ¶r ˆ igfanˆ‰nˆ‰ gˆ¶rˆ…dce batˆ‰ dan sevindi ovncylmz: :) eccone: 2NT 15-17 dengeli tokay1975: guzel konustular bu eli bence tez: bizde gittik..baktik yagmur yagiyor acil geri donduk:) tokay1975: hoca bende uzulmustum beni birakip gittin diye tokay1975: yanliz birakip gittin ¨ © © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) MolvaM: eˆ er 4♣ kˆ‰salˆ‰k gˆ¶sterdi ise bu atak pek agresiv deˆ il bence tokay1975: salvo cok tecrubeli hemen hu cˆ‰kˆ ‰p kupunu almˆ‰s:))) MolvaM: evet ˆ imdi deklaran +1 veya belki de + 2 kadar yapabilir durumda idblu: take 5..♣3 fabsayc: opposite 5332 would be down in 4 wilkinsona: a good club guess will help yo_yo: i like it when they lead my best suit MolvaM: kuzey 12-13 puanla kontr demiˆ olabilir. bence 5 ˆ§ok fazla ovncylmz: sekil a b_eymen: :) b_eymen: bu tutmakolmadˆ‰ ama b_eymen: ilan etti deniz_t: sonunu gˆ¶rmeye gerek yok gˆ…zel konuˆ malar var, yakˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰klˆ‰. arigun : bilgisayarda bir problem oldu, canli, yayin bilgisayarini degistirdik ovncylmz: az onceki 2sp elini diger masada DB 2 oynuyor:) vulkan: hayˆ‰r onlar da 2♠ oynuyor 11 bordu diyorsan ovncylmz: farkindayim:) kabexnuf: ben 2♠ gordum 11. bordu ovncylmz: yanlislik oldu galiba evet ovncylmz: 1kor acan bati olmus ovncylmz: ben 6li kor 5karo ve 10 puanla pas gecemiyorum, genclik diyelim:) MolvaM: salvo biraz tutucu davranmˆ‰ˆ sanki cindy: thats ok..♠3 bg: good opening by East this could get tough eventhough all cards are well placed sybarra: can declarer guess the ? santyclz: When precision first came out there was a defense in the NYC area called 1♠. You just bid 1♠ without looking at your hand. wygbe1: actually i guess they can beat 5d also with a club lead by south roswolf: yes there is a warm glow in your heart ovncylmz: sansli olma sirasi diyarbakirda nezihk: evet, eˆ er bˆ¶yle ellerle araya giriyorlarsa bu tarz oynmak zorundasˆ‰n yakop: ˆ imdi, o kabak ˆ lemleri sˆ¶yleyenler kˆ¶t ˆ… oyuncu mu oluyor, nasˆ‰l bir mantˆ‰k bu? diye sordular eccone: gˆ…zel kontrat tez: oynayanda o zaman 10xxx ♣ olurdu..3.turda 10 lu empasa girerdi tokay1975: vugraph ekibine tesekkurler vugraphzkg: tˆ…m arkadaˆ larˆ‰m adˆ‰na © © © bende teˆ ekkˆ…r ediyorum cindy: do you think it is marshall ?..♣9 cindy: i dont mind going down idblu: gotta be there idblu: claiming 5 snorris: now.. irwinbo: by south othered1: first cue on a void can be dangerous in some situations, but here it pretty much clarifies hand for east fabsayc : assuming hearts break i see 9, and taking them fast othered1: how do you get them all? othered1: A and another back xenya: S has no answer to 2♠ but N might have reopened if given a chance wygbe1: i think w can make now, with a h at trick 2 ogoksel: renkler kaliteli olunca cezaya kalma riski az eccone: ewet eccone: yerinde bi soru eccone: :) yakop: elbetteki degilller ama herkes bu kadar anlaˆ mˆ‰ˆ olarak oynamˆ‰yoki yakop: cogunlukla insiyatif kullanˆ‰yoruz othered1: Opposite a 15-17 1N opening, west might act and get overboard.. 4 ralfwil: Yes but D over 5♣ is - I cannot explain it yo_yo: ok they wont bounce back then :( shevek: yes, Barry is in the audience ovncylmz: arastirma sirasinda enteresan seyler olabilirdi bu boardda eccone: 4 Walddk4: In Japan, 1NT is 15-17/16-18, other ranges should be alerted. Thanks to Kazuo Takano for the clarification.. 9 wilkinsona: this surely makes now snorris: yes it will snorris: -1 ralfwil: take your 6 tricks and new board! othered1: and you’re blocked in both majors ahollan1 : from Barry Rigal: This version of CRASH was played in UK 30 years ago --maximizes use of 1H/S/NT. idblu: i had friends who bid the of deuces they held...1D =1, 1H = 2, etc ahollan1: but were those friends sober/straight enough for correct count? idblu: sat down vs becker/rubin in Niagara Falls in ’79 and they changed rooms ovncylmz: deniz bu maci yenerse grupta isler ¨ ¨ © ¨ - 122 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) karisacak:) ovncylmz: jr yilankiran-burdur maci var bir de aruf: su anda bizim maˆ§ˆ‰n sonucu cok ˆ¶nemli kabexnuf: 4-4-3-2 ile bile Mler diyenler var, boyle kaliteli olunca. yakop: ama iyi bi partnerligignin oldugunu duˆ unuyosan o hakkˆ‰n elˆ inden gidiyo yakop: bence ayni konuˆ‰sacaktˆ‰ ve kabak ˆ ilem gidecekti eccone: buna naturelde bi ˆ§ˆ¶zˆ…m olamazdˆ‰ yakop: pekii bunun caresi var mˆ‰ yakop: cevap yazabilirsiniz eccone: 4 dan sonra nezihk: RQ pik ve RQ kor olsa kesin 6 derdi, passdan geliyor ve ortak kˆ‰sa karoyla ˆ leme davet ediyor... vahaboglu: fikstˆ…rˆ… de kˆ¶tˆ… ayarlamamak lazˆ‰m tokay1975: :) tokay1975: hakanˆ‰n 5hune herkes mutabikmi tokay1975: yada mutabik olan varmˆ‰ snorris: well done.. Q sybarra: anyone have any good ideas about 4 ♣? asking for cue bids? ahollan1: so -- now we’re back to my ducking trick 1 eh? sengulerz: ˆ§ok kolay bi batˆ‰ˆ oldu vahaboglu: ˆ ilemin oluru yok ralfwil: More unbelievable.. K bg: could have new leader if this makes xenya: W was forced to bid 4♠ i think -- although she knew preciously little about partner’s hand wygbe1: n does best to win and shift to stiff d jaapfr: after my silly comment i was trown out bbo:( ovncylmz: 4 +2 olan bir boardumuz vardi eccone: naˆ§izane tez: cok bilenleri yorumcu yapiyorlar..iyi oynayanlari oyuncu MolvaM: 9 lˆ¶ve var gibi duruyor ama almsˆ‰ biraz sorunlu tez: 9 atagina yapabilir nezihk: salvonun hemen ˆ leme gitmesi iˆ§in bana gˆ¶re yeterli bir eli yok tokay1975 : h 32 bile olsaydi cl 33 yada dia dam2li lazimdi tez: ikinci turda 8 oynayarak kaybindan kurtulur tez: as iyi defans tez: ruayi bloke birakti mdgraham: time to cash the aces.....♣5 sharkey: If S bids 3♣ over 2♣ showing limit ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ - 123 - ¨ ¨ raise values he can later pass 5 ♣ and leave decision to pd sharkey: min limit raise values mdgraham : yes - but maybe 3 ♣ would have been more than a limit raise mpny: It is not clear that a limit raise creates a forcing pass ralfwil: Let Partner decide with pass over 5♣ mpny: but the NS result is poor ralfwil: In vulnerable! of course fabsayc: declarer will figure the red aces are split, must play for actual layout riyilikci: mert herhalde pikte bir ˆ§eˆ it blokasyona oynamaya ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰yor tokay1975: kesinlikle dogru nezihk: ortaˆ ˆ‰n doldurmasˆ‰ ˆ§ok zor, ˆ¶yle eli varsa da giderdi bari 4 karoya 4H desin vahaboglu: yu vermez ama 1 +1♣ verir tez: 9 cikilabilir tez: kotuymus ozur idblu: 2 ways to play the ♣s.. 7 idblu: but if N wins the 1st ...no guess mcarroll : I would have super-accepted the transfer with the W hand - anyone else? xenya: :) mcarroll: LOl b_eymen: ˆ ans kazandˆ‰ran durumlara denir aruf: bizim takˆ‰m pˆ‰narbaˆ ˆ‰ ile oynuyor vulkan: Faruk burda, maˆ§ˆ‰ alˆ‰rˆ‰z diyo mu:) nezihk: 13 puan olacak deˆ il ya arigun: okay’in 4♠ su stop relay, yani ♣ e daha iyi fit olamasi lazim, bu durumda Gokhanin 5♣ demesi gerekiyor belki MolvaM: bu trefl oyunu ˆ art mˆ‰ydˆ‰? sybarra: could have been gerber (Roland will shoot me for typing it) ..♠2 cindy: lol cindy: i hear him coming cindy: sorry shirley i didnt see the beginning of the hand phone excuse here marlowepi: S should not fall for this ralfwil: locked on table! why not win with A mpny: non vul opponents can still make things othered1: He may wind up playing for 10xx wygbe1: w hasnt made 4s yet, but if she does match is tight josj: now E can open up another suit to declarer’s advantage yo_yo: Liu to find a lead, not easy MolvaM: zon denmeyince bˆ…tˆ…n empaslar geˆ §er ¨ © ¨ © ¨ © © © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) MolvaM: netekim tez: 1 2♣ 1 ile batacakti jaapfr: lovely..♣4 wygbe1: with that play she should make i think nezihk: nevzat pike dˆ¶nmezse yaptˆ‰racaklar eccone: onu tercih etmem sahsen ovncylmz: diger masada NS 5 oynuyor yakop: naturel oynarken buyuk eller hep problem tokay1975: 7li ye bakiyo neden 9lu koymadi ¨ © ¨ diyor nezihk: gˆ…ney sˆ‰kˆ‰ˆ maz mˆ‰? tez: ♠ ler calistigi icin olacak MolvaM: defans bayaˆ ˆ‰ zorluyor deklaranˆ‰ tez: ruayi vermek fena fikir degildi tez: asin altina.. tez: lari saglamak daha kolay olacakti tez: ♠ empasi gectigi icin hala sorun yok ama ¨ ¨ ¨ oynayan bizim gibi elleri gormuyor tez: biz sadece el goren bulbullugu yapiyoruz:) ralfwil: and a help from W..♠A shevek: nice bulletins btw :) b_eymen: bu board egale ˆ§ok bˆ…yˆ…k ihtimal ovncylmz: pastan geliyor ama ovncylmz: egale oldu tez: ♣ dam iyi donus mcarroll: good choice of plays..♠8 marlowepi: E is most likely to be 6322. so win S ace & lead D marlowepi: oops, thanks. forgot W was playing it kabexnuf: :) MolvaM: iˆ te yeni 1 teknik terim daha ˆ¶ˆ rendik :) werge: NO - look at the ♣-values..♠5 santyclz: The toothpicks holding my eyes open are starting to get soggy. josj: low now probably prevents the overtrick vahaboglu: ben katˆ‰lmˆ‰yorum riyilikci: yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran-zabunoˆ lu: 23-52 bg: dont like heart king there may get tangled up should have played dia first..♠6 yo_yo: she heard you :) vugraphzhq: lol roswolf: a straight guess josj: timing not yet right for a squeeze on E yo_yo: i dont think many would lead from Q, do you? chessmaste: Declarer is worried - a wrong guess and a low club back he is thinking aruf: Vulkan valla biz elimizden geleni yapacagˆ ‰z sonuc ne olur bilinmez ovncylmz: karo cift empas falan atar mi acaba? ovncylmz: a takimi ilk implerini oldukca gec aldi:) vahaboglu: bakalˆ‰m © tez: buyuk abi batar diyor tokay1975: sˆ‰kˆ‰smaz :) vahaboglu: kim o, GIB mi? tez: gib marlowepi: but i was at least right that E is most likely to be 6322 :)..♠4 fabsayc: but west will get endplayed in clubs fabsayc: if they attack the heart entry twice jaapfr: you will not be trown out Jim:) arigun: 4 de biraz az...yanda 15 puan ile yakop : kuvvetli tref buna care ama onun da zaaflarˆ‰ baˆ ka ralfwil: agree Martin, but now it was right..♠K b_eymen: 12-13 isede 4-4-1-4 dir en ˆ‰kˆ¶tˆ… b_eymen: dagˆ‰lˆ‰mˆ‰ uygun olur diye MolvaM: evet. eˆ er kendini iyi hissediyor ise 4 denebilirdi xenya: i don’t like the 3 small s.. 8 idblu: yours and mine both mcarroll: Interesting in OR they bid to 6 and W then bid 6♠ rather than dbl xenya : a huge swing for the ladies is on the horizon wygbe1: if n was allowed to hold the trick and shift to d , might have beaten 4s josj: declarer needs to lose 1 more trick but of he does so, he loses 2 josj: if eccone: 1♣ 1 2♣ baska biˆ iymi rehacˆ‰m tokay1975: son 4 kart x dia xxx cle j dia arx cl giriyor kuzete kozu verirken yusufb : 20-22 nisan ˆ SKENDERUN briˆ§ festivali idblu: oops went wrong...played for 2-2 A onside.. ♠7 cindy: wonder if anyone at the table noticed wilkinsona: oops unlucky guess gives 3 tricks it seems idblu : it is just after midnight here in North America EST chessmaste: A good shot by East josj: Q is mandatory eccone: aldˆ‰mˆ‰ ki kabexnuf: neyse daha 5 4 bord var tez: simdi batti fabsayc: now needs diamond finesse?.. 7 santyclz: Superglue has been recommended to me. tez: ler arkadasca dagildigi icin sorunsuz arigun: normalde okan pass dese 5♣ diyecekti... simdi degisen sey nedir, 4 ’u batirmayi mi dusundu acaba © ¨ © ¨ © © ¨ © © - 124 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) ¨ ralfwil: and a squeeze on S!.. 3 sharkey: S will come under pressure now wilkinsona: yep with only 2 boards left a good lead ahollan1: ahh back in the Ultimate Club era -- that was hard book to read, but concept sure made impact for scientific bidding roswolf: i agree MolvaM: murphy’nin empaslar ile ilgili kuralˆ‰ yakop: 3 any singlton, orta kuvvette el eccone: claim pls ralfwil: 2 rounds of ♣ will kill S.. T akgun : KG in oynadiklari sistem Universal Transfer Responses (UTR) nin modifiye edilmis sekli eccone: Gˆ¶ksu clup ta deniliyo hemen josj: or finesse, rather.. J b_eymen : 3 ♣ e 4 ♣ dese diyor ˆ¶bˆ…rˆ… hwmen vulkan: elbette :) eccone: 5 dan alcak diyosun ovncylmz: 4 +2:) tuppermet: nuri partneri sˆ‰kˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰rmamak iˆ §in trefli ˆ§ekmedi santyclz: lead in the other room simplified things... 2 wilkinsona: bur -2 now.. 5 santyclz: NEXT! idblu: and quickly eccone: hhehe ovncylmz: burda suna deginmek lazim eccone: :) MolvaM : 5 kˆ¶r 5 pik alˆ‰p oyunu yapmak varken trefl rua uˆ§urmaya ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ mak... othered1: note that even if south had unblocked earlier, with ♠ blocked, it wouldn’t have mattered.. 5 roswolf: 9 tricks only now ovncylmz: evet bence de ovncylmz: aydinda oturup istanbulda okuyan biri olarak, anadolu kuluplerinde oynayan bricciler icin yapilacak kamplarin yararli olacagina inaniyorum:) eccone: ahahah eccone: iyi fikir sengulerz: ilk ♠i bˆ‰rakˆ‰p aynˆ‰ oyunu oynasa yapacaktˆ‰ eerbil : tek ˆ ans ilk turda Dam karoya Rua konmasˆ‰ idi, ˆ imdi ufuk treflini 2 parˆ§aya indirirse batˆ‰rˆ‰yor.. 8 vahaboglu: Salvonun teki ♣ olsa sˆ…per bir ˆ ilemdi nezihk: pik pasˆ‰ yapˆ‰p ˆ§akse ve son kozu ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © ¨ ¨ - 125 - kuzeye verse phantoma: muthis defans yaptilar bravo marlowepi: well, i think that RDBL puts the ball in their court, so we have to be prepared for it to be back in our court, and since RDBL announces more than the balance of the values, i .....♠Q marlowepi: think it ought to be forcing. but there is room for discussion yakop: bu cevap dogruya yakˆ‰n snorris: boars 7 has been ajusted to 2♠ xx ..♠9 cindy: more unlucky they are in 2N wilkinsona: nice not to be vulnerable marlowepi: i think it would be better for E to play king of spades and a spade. that way he is more likely to smoke out the info he needs to guess clubs right MolvaM: ˆ imdi yapara geldi snorris: 2200..♣8 yakop: acanˆ‰n splinterlerini ayˆ‰rmak lazˆ‰ m ralfwil: or 3 rounds!.. 4 sybarra: bridge is an easy game fabsayc: quite a complicated hand.. A aruf: Burdur bu maˆ§la 25 serisine son vermiˆ olacak ovncylmz: seminer falan tarzi seyler tum yurtta yapilsa takimlar arasi dengeler biraz daha kurulabilir cindy: i think the colors are clouding my view.. 9.. 6 mariner1 : well the senior world champs are beating up on the unsuspecting opponents here nezihk: deniz nerenin takˆ‰mˆ‰ ovncylmz: ankara kabexnuf: pik atmaliydi ovncylmz: bu karti yaptirmamak gerek artik.. 6 eccone: aslˆ‰nda o biraz kiˆ isel geliˆ imle ilgili eccone: bol bol kitap okumak mesala yakop: bana gore bu pozisyonda o turnuvada karalarˆ‰ iyi olanˆ‰n biraz daha sorumluluk almasˆ‰ lazˆ‰m marlowepi: entries not an issue as he is really needing 2-2 clubs © © ¨ © ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 3N c 3N 13 E E this/total IMPs Quantum 113 Primabridge 74 4 630 4 630 13 3 ♠10 8 2 7 J10 6 8 3 87 4 ♣ A10 9 6 3 ♠K 4 N ♠9 7 5 3 52 AQ8 W E AK Q5 3 2 10 9 S ♣KQ4 ♣J852 ♠A Q J 6 9-7 6 K9743 5 J64 10 ♣7 8 -500 W: Andonov W X 3 p ¨ N: Nanev Open S: Mihov N E p p 2 2♠ p 3N p © ©4,2,T,Q ©J,A,3,5 ¨K,8,9,6 ¨2,§3,ª5,6 ¨3,ªT,9,Q #1 S:: #3 N:: #5 W:: #7 W:: #9 W:: ndemirev: that is if you know how ♠ break ndemirev: may go after hook - down 1 lestergold: not likley on the biddng!..♣2..♣7..♣ © K..♣A..©J..©A..©3..©5 lestergold: and against odds too ndemirev: true..¨T..¨4 ndemirev: i ignored the bidding sorry lestergold: all academical tis board flat.. A.. 7 ¨ ¨ E: Popov S 1 p p © § ¨ ¨ ª ¨ ¨ ª § © #2 E:: 2,7,K,A #4 E:: T,4,A,7 #6 W:: Q, 8,3, J #8 W:: 5, 2,7,J #10 W:: Q,6,5, 7 ndemirev: there is a another touch and go 3nt that may go down vugraphb1: sry 1 IMP diference..p..p Walddk3: 3NT is safe if played by East..1 lestergold: yes if played by west which it wont now be a heart lead would be fairly lethal.. ..2 ..2♠ lestergold: 3n now..p..3 ..p..3N..p roswolf: duly arrived at..p..p ndemirev: spade lead can sink it roswolf: that lead doent.. 4.. 2.. T.. Q roswolf: doesnt Walddk3: spade lead doesn’t either. they only get 3 spades and 1 club lestergold: i think its infrangible a spade lead wins 3 spades and a club surely thats all lestergold: sorry roland snap! simultaneous ¨ © ¨ © © © © © - 126 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 3N c 3N 13 this/total IMPs Primabridge 74 Quantum 113 4 630 4 630 E E 13 3 ♠10 8 2 7 J10 6 8 3 87 4 ♣ A10 9 6 3 ♠K 4 N ♠9 7 5 3 52 AQ8 W E AK Q5 3 2 10 9 S ♣KQ4 ♣J852 ♠A Q J 6 9-7 6 K9743 5 J64 10 ♣7 8 -500 W: V.Aronov W X 3 p ¨ N: S.Skorchev Closed E: J.Stefanov S: B.Popov N E S p p 1 2 2♠ p p 3N p p ©4,2,T,Q ©J,A,3,5 ¨2,8,9,4 ¨K,§6,ª3,6 #1 S:: #3 N:: #5 W:: #7 W:: © © §5,7,Q,A ¨T,J,A,7 §2,¨6,§K,3 ¨Q,ª2,5,J #2 E:: #4 E:: #6 E:: #8 W:: mariner1: this is the pentultimate board of the ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © session............ K.. 8.. 9.. 6.. Q..♠8..♠3.. J.. 2..♣3..♠5..♠6.. 5..♠2..♠7..♠J.. 3..♠ T..♠9..♠Q..♣Q..♣6..♣5.. 7 cindy: if they were reversed, i would think its forcing :) frankaus: I would thik it would need pd to have opened light before it could be passed marlowepi: if it is forcing, and maybe even if it is not, maybe E should just bid an honest 2H....but maybe EW play that as NF, but then you can;t play RDBL followed by Pass as NF mariner1: next session in 51 minutes 18 seconds cindy: oh yes i like 2 much better ralfwil: To watch this defence is good for sharpening your self confidence sybarra: just a double hook snorris: so only 13 imps down now ¨ ¨ © - 127 - ¨ wilkinsona: so a push mdgraham: note that North just bid 4♠, not 4 , ¨ after a raise to 3♠ in the other room sharkey: Pass is not forcing in my book after 4♠ thus S had to Dbl ralfwil: same result in OR! unbelieveable athene: australia are running out of boards here ahollan1: West will be extremely relieved to learn this is a 7 imp pickup santyclz: Amazing how preemptive a 1 bid can be. idblu: 1/2 imp looking big now :) mcarroll: Suddenly we have a close game xenya: getting the match really close wygbe1: another swingy hand josj: another vital imp roswolf: another imp to the ladies josj: the decider coming up? yo_yo: just what we need, a rubbish 8 card suit chessmaste: This was a disaster b_eymen: ewet 5 karˆ‰yla ilgili olur heralde b_eymen: 4 daha iyi b_eymen: karo sorry vugraphzkg: saat 17 10 da izmir bˆ…yˆ…k ˆ ehir belediye beyaz ve diyarbakˆ‰r iski takˆ‰mlarˆ ‰ canlˆ‰ vugraphˆ‰ olacak ovncylmz: 2♣: 18-19 balanced aruf: ok o zaman dedigin naturel oluyor eymen arigun: ankara nezihk: kaˆ§ oldu ankara da vugraphzkg: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ teams_event.php?event=172&stage=368 vugraphzkg: tˆ…m maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yaralanabilirsiniz aruf: Benim dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ncem gruptan Burdur biz ve Deniz cˆ‰kacak ovncylmz: nerede o bric kitaplari:) eccone: ben bˆ…tˆ…n briccilere martenzin bˆ…t ˆ…n kitaplarˆ‰nˆ‰ tavsiye ediyorum ovncylmz: :) eccone: inanˆ‰lmaz faydalˆ‰ ovncylmz: 4♠ X = geldi bile:) ovncylmz: 2 X 3nt X ovncylmz: sekansindan sonra ovncylmz: 2 * vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 vugraphzkg: takˆ‰m kadrolarˆ‰ ve konvansyon kartlarˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz yakop: ama bu durumda gunah kecisi olmak da ¨ ¨ © © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) var bu yuzden bu sorumlulugu herkes alamaˆ‰yo yakop: 15 17 ya da 18 + nezihk: Q trefl ataˆ ˆ‰na 4 sp yapar sansar yakop: arada cok fark var tokay1975: bende pas derdim asve ruam var h tek bile acilabilir yere tokay1975: nafiz abi pas birakmˆ‰s x e tokay1975: 500 almˆ‰slar yakop: kontr ceza oynanˆ‰yosa pas ama take out agˆ‰rlˆ‰klˆ‰ysa 3 lu kor bile olabilir kontr cuda tokay1975: her sekilde olabilir ne dicek 2siylede x tokay1975: 5h dicek eli yoksa hep x dicek tokay1975: kaadi varsa tokay1975: bu bordlarda cok sasirtici bu kadar imp yusufb: sorryyy 20-22 MART tokay1975: federasyon yonetiminide tesekkur etmek istiyorum bu organizasyon icin MolvaM: arkadaˆ lar lˆ…ˆ tfen turnuva reklamlarˆ ‰nˆ‰ almayalˆ‰m. wilkinsona: thats a significant adjustment..p ralfwil: and two to go ahollan1: Barry Rigal confirms -- after the small lead - declarer had no legit chance ahollan1: and after 13 boards on Friday the 13th [still that date in western hemisphere] all tied b_eymen: olabilir riyilikci: TBF ana sayfa tbricfed.org.tr nezihk: 6karoya gelirler mi acaba vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/ MolvaM : herkesin turnuvasˆ‰nˆ‰ duyurma imkanˆ‰mˆ‰z yok ama zaten hepsi tbf sayfalarˆ ‰nda yayˆ‰nlanˆ‰yor yusufb: son tebrigimde BODRUM takˆ‰mˆ‰na yarˆ‰ finali 1 imp ile kacˆ‰rdˆ‰lar mariner1: :0..p snorris : maybe north forgot to ask about the bidding? ralfwil: 3♠ from S? sharkey: have to average almost 9 IMPs a board from here josj: I see 4 top losers roswolf: well now a real chance for japan b_eymen: ama su aˆ§ˆ‰dan aˆ§ˆ‰lmayabilir akgun: 1h 11-19 4432 veya 4333limitler 11-14, 15-17 ve 18-19 4441 olabilir aruf: tˆ…m kuvvetlileri anlatˆ‰yorlar Kuzey insiyatif almˆ‰ˆ herhalde MolvaM: multi? ovncylmz: :) kesin ¨ aruf: ben acmazdˆ‰m nezihk: yoksa 4 H -1 mi? riyilikci: DB iˆ§in felaket zor bir bord exerdar: buda egale gidecek bordlardan MolvaM: evet evet sayˆ‰n seyirciler defans atlad ˆ‰ ama bunlar olabilir. sakin olalˆ‰m. masadaki herkes 5 gˆ…ndˆ…r briˆ§ oynuyor eerbil: herhalde tam olacak, +3 deˆ il vugraphzkg: evet vahaboglu: 2♣ mcarroll: One benefit of the superaccept is that when pd is very weak - as here - it makes it very difficult for opps to reopen..1 ralfwil: a lot of IMPs to recover and only 4 boards left santyclz: This hand would be a lot more fun if ew weren’t vul. ahollan1: Ino treating hand as 22+ balanced b_eymen : daha hˆ‰zlˆ‰ anlatabilirsin pas dedikten sonra eccone: hmm eccone: dbl eccone: ˆ§ok kˆ¶tˆ… multi iˆ§in MolvaM: 3.cˆ…den multi aˆ§mamak olmaz aruf: kˆ¶rler sˆ…per :) mustafaozk: 12. board ˆ§ok iyi atak edildi ama yetmedi arigun: ilk devre skorlari, butler ranking vs icin ; http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams_event.php? event=172&stage=369 yakop: bu konuyla ilgili oynadˆ‰gˆ‰m bi eli yazacam ve cavap verebilirs snorris: 1 ♣-1♠, and..?.. snorris: 1 NT with no singelton?? mcarroll: Shouldn’t be allowed lol marlowepi: i might be tempted to try 3S on the S hand in 3rd seat wilkinsona: or 4 spades cindy: no 4♠ for me bg: good old style 4 card major werge: J-10 of ♠ are vasted values too akgun: kuzey 6. boarddaki 3nt den sonra iyice havaya girdi:) eccone: :) aruf : Ama yaˆ ar abiyi birazdan gidip tebrik edecegim cok iyi tercih yaptˆ‰ ve oynadˆ‰ yakop: iniz tokay1975: diger mac icin soledim koksoy: oooooo beklenmedik swing geldi wilkinsona: dont always have one..2 idblu: do they play ACOL? sharkey: Think most play 3♠ or 4♠ as preemptive © ¨ © - 128 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) after bidding by opps but not sure roswolf: now n/s should get the defence right chessmaste : They took a club ruff but then South played back a diamond!! nezihk : bu elle 1 Nt ye katˆ‰lˆ‰yormusun tokay? tokay1975: pasa demeye katˆ‰lˆ‰yorum tokay1975: pas tez: 2 yeterli bence tokay1975: pastan gelen ortaga dbl zonda idblu: not my o’call vul..2♠ fabsayc: 4♠ looks better than 2NT snorris: 1 nt anyone? wilkinsona: doubtless EW miss informed re the redouble idblu: 4♠ cold on 20 high....good vul save in 5 marlowepi: yes, though that might go for a lot against nothing, or too much against game wilkinsona : it appears EW will find the sac however othered1: double is not without considerable risk, as south may prefer 3-card support for to a weak 4-card minor. thommos: probably ralfwil: If not I had bid 5♠ on that hand yo_yo: 5 level decisions are the most difficult for me mdgraham: they are for everybody sharkey: Is Mr. Hanlon considering entering the fray? ralfwil: At least as a save against 5♣. Who says that we have a ♠ trick in the defence? yo_yo: of course he is ahollan1: 2 =6+ HCP so game force created josj: which ♣ did N return? chessmaste: seven josj: interesting... ovncylmz: ama ortagin hep pastan geldi ve cok dengesiz diye dusunur, 5-5 11 puanla acilir herhalde:) b_eymen: 3♣ all pas ovncylmz: baksana KG 9lar 10larla aciyor kabexnuf: ben bˆ¶yle geliˆ tim diyorsun eccone: varsa biˆ iy ondadndˆ‰r nezihk: evet ben de sengulerz: bu arada 3NT oluyo muydu tam da emin deˆ ilim ama en azˆ‰ndan bu kadar kolay batmazdˆ‰ onu biliyorum yakop: ARXX AXX X ARVXX tez: qj ♠ kotu..dagilim 4333.. tokay1975: elleri yanlˆ‰smˆ‰ goruyorum ben koksoy: 15. boardu sayarsanˆ‰z yˆ‰lankˆ‰ © ¨ © ¨ - 129 - ran ˆ¶ne gecti... MolvaM: 1000 kiˆ i olduk ralfwil: Righr Snorri, probably the only reason..p snorris: seems so athene: the play here isn’t trivial by any means athene: i guess you set off on diamonds yo_yo: lots of options on this hand yo_yo: lots of way to go wrong in the suit athene: you would rather win the lead in dummy to set off on diamonds i think idblu: 6 a nice contract akgun: 3nt yi oynayan Erhan abi degilmiydi eccone: okumak eccone: oynamˆ‰s gibi oluyosun, eccone: 6♣ bitek atagˆ‰na batˆ‰yo ovncylmz: trefller uyumsuz? ovncylmz: J109X ovncylmz: kor as eccone: haa o var bide eccone: 4♠ biˆ iyi yok diye iletelim bunuda pls yakop: ˆ¶yle bir sorumluluk alˆ‰ndˆ‰gˆ‰nda cok sert tepkiler mi geliyor, hoˆ gˆ¶rˆ… yeterince yokmu? yakop: bu bana soruldu yakop: cevap:) eccone: buda gˆ…zel soru vahaboglu: 2♠ MolvaM: genellikle kapalˆ‰ oda daha tenha olur ama bu masadaki oyuncularˆ‰ seyretmek istiyor ˆ§oˆ unluk sanˆ‰rˆ‰m tez: 4♣=onlar 4♠ derlerse paslar forsing demek barbyh: sometimes the oppo’s have 7 runners and an outside trick..3 cindy: me either idblu: intermediate jump overcall vul here marlowepi: if we can make 4S, much of the time N will bid it over 3S at these coplors ovncylmz: dogunun eli ile 2♠ denebilir mi? aruf: ama briˆ§ her tˆ…rlˆ… sonuca aˆ§ˆ‰ktˆ‰r riyilikci: gelecek maˆ§ 14:30’da hangi maˆ§larin yayinlanacaˆ i sonuˆ§lar alindiktan sonra belirlenecek yakop: Sˆ Z 1 TREF ORTAK 1 Pˆ K yakop: BUYRUN BAKALIM MolvaM: evet zafer-irfan fazla konuˆ mak zarar getirmiyor nasˆ‰l olsa deyip yˆ…kselmiˆ ler koksoy: yalcˆ‰nla ˆ¶zgˆ…r zaferle irfana karsˆ‰ cok iyi gidiyorlar ralfwil: 11 tricks..p xenya: 2♣= s it seems geller: there are only 4 boards left in the half, but 20 boards left in the match. No reason for the Dutch to panic yet. ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) mcarroll: Do they not have another 16 boards to play? © © ahollan1: 3 transfer ahollan1: DBL -- unnecessary ahollan1: 4 obligatory now santyclz: Somehow in the o/r e neglected to open that rock. roswolf: great judgment chessmaste: A brilliant bid by East josj: saves the day and maybe even the match vugraphzhq: true yo_yo: Liu trusts her partner roswolf: perhaps an imp to japan eccone: 4♠2 2 5♣ olsa bile dbl ovncylmz: 5trefl bile gorusuruz modunda duruyor eccone: o kadar degil :) nezihk: pass a katˆ‰lˆ‰yorum eccone: 1nt sistemmi gˆ…neyin vahaboglu: 9 no lu bord ters ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ mˆ‰ˆ MolvaM: 3nt ˆ§ok rahat ama kuzey aˆ§ˆ‰nca gˆ …ney hemen ˆ lem hayalleri gˆ¶rmeye baˆ lˆ‰ yor MolvaM: okan-ahmet biraz kurcalamˆ‰ˆ lar ama zamanˆ‰nda durmuˆ lar thommos: 3♠ is too high..3N bg : how many bid 1 heart East? how is pard going to know what is happening-not necessary to bid every time it is your turn xenya: yes they do werge: This looks like panic... xenya: this is segment 1 santyclz: By e or s? othered1: dbl could let them find slam ahollan1: hehe East :( ahollan1: sidebar -- NS play CRASH over strong 2♣ -- how many of you in the audience have discussed that possibility? idblu: won’t keep W out of it jaapfr: 6 likely to fail here wygbe1: i think 3n was cold roswolf: nope b_eymen: denmez b_eymen: 3 tane olmalˆ‰ :P aruf: ok Erhan abiyi :) arigun: http://clubs.vugraph.com/abskd/teams_ round.php?round=1131 arigun: 5. olmuslar ovncylmz: denz yakop: elbetteki olmuyor ama takˆ‰m 6 kiˆ i elendiiginizde sizin yanlˆ‰ˆ kararlarˆ‰nˆ‰z on planda olunca tez: 4♣ extra gosteriyormu sizce burda? ©¨ ¨ © MolvaM: kˆ¶r partaj olsa 4 olacaktˆ‰ sybarra: maybe be headed to 6 nown ..p sybarra: guess not cindy: time running out cindy: does anyone like e/w methods here with 3 ¨? marlowepi: i do, a lot wilkinsona: thats the problem with 1 spade irwinbo: vul it was an intermediate (strong) jump overcall i think cindy: the thing that bothers me is 3 takes up so much room when it could be their hand idblu: yes..I like int jump o/calls vul marlowepi: i am a firm believer in intermediate J O vul othered1: that may be the best lead ahollan1: nice stiff trump lead idblu: wonder why :) riyilikci : doˆ unun durmasˆ‰ gerˆ§ekten zor olacak ovncylmz: lebensohl oynamiyorlar galiba tez: 14 16 nt oynuyor koc ozbey cifti fabsayc: agree with 2nt?..p othered1: I like 3 now by north fabsayc: not if south is flat snorris: this is too expensive ahollan1: North’s PASS probably [keyword] denied 3♠ othered1: Actually, I did this afternoon, right before a local tournament session santyclz: With 1 pd I play SuperCRaSh. jaapfr: my bet 6 -1 wygbe1: diamonds might go down, even at the 5 level chessmaste: I’ll be the Sun was not shining in the other room akgun: benimde tebrikleri iletirsen sevinirim ovncylmz: oynansa da isler zor:) yakop: kandi halinizi siz duˆ unun vahaboglu: Varoˆ lu 5 ♠ e batˆ‰nca 10 imp tokay1975 : 10 ve 11 dede puan kazanabilir zabunoglu barbyh: can breathe easy here..p snorris: curious 1nt in east cindy: method being a jump overcall is not weak wilkinsona: EW have outbid NS on this hand b_eymen: iyi bi ˆ lem eli daha ovncylmz: deniz takimi su ana kadar hep ayni 4lu ile oynadi aruf: Burdur a 12 nolu boarddan imp gelecek aruf: 2 oynanˆ‰yor eccone: karo cˆ‰kˆ‰lmassa :) ¨ © ¨ ¨ - 130 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) ovncylmz: karo cikilabilirdi bence, ama simdi 3nt atagi onemli MolvaM: multi aˆ§saydˆ‰ karˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰rabilirdi nezihk: ters oynuyor olabilirler, bzim gibi riyilikci: DB konvansiyon kartˆ‰ lebensohl diye yazˆ‰yor, bu sekans hakkˆ‰nda bilgi yok arigun: zaferin elinde 4♠ cok fazla olmus, elinde 2 ♠ den fazlasi yok eksigi var... muhtemelen masada gerideyiz psikolojisi ile dedi arigun: bilseki kapali oda da ortaklarinda cok iyi 2 skor var MolvaM: karolar bloke olduˆ u iˆ§in Walddk4: It won’t be difficult for declarer to place the outstanding 11 hcp.. 4 snorris: no werge: NO! snorris: :) ahollan1: RDBL by south often used to say "you must accept transfer now" othered1: When do they get around to getting their 9-card solid fit into the auction? ahollan1: not 4 ? maybe that shows better ♣ support eccone: j♣ eccone: woow eccone: gercekten mi eymen solimmi ? MolvaM: bora da 3 kˆ¶r derdi belki? ovncylmz: bu ellerle nicin multi acmadiginizi anlamadim eccone: operatˆ¶rˆ…mˆ…zden :) riyilikci: 4NT 0 as olarak alert edilmiˆ batˆ‰ tarafˆ‰ndan eccone: 7 li kritik marka yakop: bu iˆ e soyunan oyuncular (ki ben cok severeim):) yakop: kabak baˆ ˆ‰na patlˆ‰yˆ‰o bi anda MolvaM: metin ekkˆ i nin overcall yapmamasˆ‰ i ˆ e yarayabilir mi acaba? MolvaM: bence hayˆ‰r cindy: its just the taking up so much space thing that bothers me.. 2 geller: Really, what’s remarkable is that so far there have only been two big swings, both to Japan. ahollan1: gulp b_eymen: mecbur olmadˆ‰kˆ§a insiyatif almayanlar iyi oyuncu olur ˆ¶vˆ…nˆ§ yakop: ENTERESAN CEVAPLARI YAZACAM MolvaM: oooo bu tehlikeli tokay1975: 5 dia deseler oluyo insaf:) snorris: or is it?.. T snorris: not after this lead © ¨ © © - 131 - snorris: needed to lead ♠ ahollan1: South NOT interpreting partner’s pass as denying 3♠ othered1: Feels like south was taking some kind of inference from north’s actions that I don’t see. santyclz: Ok, that’s half the battle. Just 1 more little task to complete. idblu: do we ruff 2♣ and concede a arigun: ben hep demisimdir koz’a 3-5 atak hep iyi olur :) MolvaM: eˆ er as soruyorsa nezihk: 3 trefle 3 Nt 4 lˆ… trefli red mi ediyor acaba? tokay1975: 3cle 3nt gelince 4nt demek iyimi ortak negatif gostermis tokay1975: zaten 1nt demis bastan 3cle cuebid yapabilirdi MolvaM: belki kantitatiftir? nezihk: cue bid 4 lˆ… trefl gˆ¶stermez mi? tokay1975: kantitatif bile olsa 14 hp ile buyuk risk var tokay1975 : gostersin 4lu cl ama 3nt nerden baksak red manasinda bi cevap MolvaM: eˆ er kantitatif ise kuzey ˆ lem demeyip ne yapsˆ‰n? tez: nafiz 4 u batirmayi umit ediyor sharkey: Some questionable actions by N in this match - the lead last hand and failure to bid ♠ on Hand 9.. Q snorris: Akama not agreeing with you Hans snorris: going -1 sharkey: 2♣ by west says nothing about ♣ - just forcing ralfwil: looks like a flat board mdgraham: it looks as if 3♠ was GF sharkey: Think Invitational values and E accepted. yo_yo: PO prefers west to bid a direct 3♠ werge: How can you imgine to make 4 ! facing a passed hand??? mpny: 2C created a GF mdgraham: possibly. In England, most play that the jump after 4SF is GF werge: Sorry, not passed hand yo_yo: i play 4th suit is GF sharkey: 2♣ shows invitational values yo_yo : but opposite 1 maybe 3 ♠ better ( playing a strong club) geller: especially with Chen-Furuta in for Japan you’d expect more than 28 imps of total swings in the first 12 boards. ahollan1: so -- going INTO 13 we had tie, after 13, not so much © © © ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) aruf: tmm 5 dakikaya kadar gidecegim salona akgun: karo atagindan sonra? ovncylmz: mesela bu artifisyel 1♣ acislarinda ovncylmz: haklisin b_eymen: yapman gerekenleri yaptˆ‰kˆ§a kazan anadoluda ataklar hep boyledir:) eccone: ˆ§ˆ…nkˆ… renk yok dagˆ‰lˆ‰m yok puan yok benim fikrrim MolvaM: yemeklerden ˆ¶nce aˆ§mˆ‰yoruz eccone: en ˆ¶nmlisi renk ˆ§ok kˆ¶tˆ… tokay1975: cok fazla love almˆ‰cak zatenmakul olmayan agresif deklarasyonlarˆ‰n klasik sonu bu MolvaM: kˆ¶r partajˆ‰nˆ‰ deneyip kaˆ ˆ‰tlarˆ ‰ atmaktan baˆ ka seˆ§enek yok gibi ralfwil: can anyone of you bid 1nt on E? not me with only 10xx in ♠..♣5 wilkinsona: this lead should ditch this contract mdgraham: very tempting, with all those kings vulkan: yine uygun kˆ¶r ve tref daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰mˆ‰ na ˆ lem olacaktˆ‰ ama maalesef akgun: kor atagida oldurucu eccone: ahah eccone: oda var tabe eccone: iyi briˆ§ˆ§ilerin farki yorum ve insiyatif yakop: yani partnersen derdin var abi:) eccone: diye bi msj aldˆ‰m MolvaM: 5nt ne? kantitatif? nezihk: paslar ordan oraya gidiyor tokay1975: 5nt bence h mu clmi oynayalˆ‰m dedi clim 4lu dedi MolvaM: "ben maksimum um. sen de maksimum musun" sarusu mu acaba? phantoma: 5N batacagimiz 6yi sec herhalde nezihk: adam nerden bilsin, 14 den fazla olacak hali yok ya nezihk: niye 6 demedi, J108 trefl de var MolvaM: metin ekˆ i ˆ imdi bakˆ‰yordur acaba atak kendinde olmayan bir kontrat olabilir mi diye nezihk: ˆ…stelik tokay1975: 12 14 dengeli ele 3cle 3nt dedikten sonra 4nt katilmˆ‰yorum tez : disardaki ♣ dagiliminin nasil oldugunu dogru tahmin etmek gerekiyor werge: He is not alne..♣7 werge: alone wilkinsona: should have had less space if south opens 4 spades santyclz: The lead is frightening as it may easily mean s aren’t breaking and they’re needed for transportation. b_eymen: bricte yapmak istediklerin ve yapman gerekenler var b_eymen: sende := ovncylmz: ortaktan 2sp ye 4sp gelmesi muhtemel:) ovncylmz: bende J98X varken ovncylmz: ama rakip her durumda 3c oynasin ¨ ˆ‰rsˆ‰n isterim ben:) ovncylmz: haha fabsayc: 2 shows spade fit, game interest..♣Q ralfwil: 10 tricks on many ways othered1: Perhaps they focus on suit. If north ¨ © © denied solid stop, south’s h and gets better akgun: bu ataktan sonra cikari yok defans atlamazsa eccone: ahaha nezihk: rahmi siteden eleme sonuˆ§larˆ‰nˆ‰ gˆ ¶remiyoruz, eˆ leˆ melerde baˆ ka zorlu bir maˆ§ var mˆ‰? riyilikci: sorunsuz sanˆ‰rˆ‰m nezihk: evet riyilikci: kˆ¶r rua ˆ…ˆ§lˆ…den dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nce ovncylmz: gunun son 4boardundan biri, ama batmak gercekten zor gorunuyor bu dagilimda yakop: erhan yamut tan yaz geldi:) snorris: yes..♣A wilkinsona: still -2 mdgraham: it’s the aces that are a problem ahollan1: but endplayed once again :) fabsayc: lead it again santyclz: 7 s? b_eymen: dogunun 4 lˆ… ♣ i kesinlestigi icin 3 bidaha konusula bilirdi akgun: yerde vale ile kalinca 1 den fazla batacak eccone: buna bi seminer verilebilir mesala ovncylmz: A65432 olsa bile ortakta 2tane olmasi halini dusun tez: rakibin ♣ leri 4/4 ise asi cikartilmali tez: 5/3 ise ♠ empasi atilmali tez: tabiki asi kimde oda onemli tez: rakibin sayilari nasil verdigini bilmek gerekiyor eerbil: belli ki ters .. eymen’in sˆ¶ylediˆ i gibi, 6’l ˆ‰dan sonra okay’ˆ‰n ˆ¶nce 5’li sonra 4’lˆ… vermesi pike preferans olmalˆ‰ tez: rakip dogru sayi vermeyecek pozisyondami tez: okay ve gokhan ters sayi oynuyorlar riyilikci: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams _match.php?match=10101 tez: 654 sirasiyla verince tek sayida oynuyorlar tez: yoksa 4lu tutus tek ♣ 4lu koz yeterlimi? MolvaM: 3. devre baˆ langˆ‰ˆ§ saatini rica etsek ralfwil: can S see a singleton ♠ on N?.. J idblu: oops ¨ ¨ © © © - 132 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) yo_yo: true aces are useful ahollan1: yes -- we all know South could effectively lead ♠ 2 -- but South only sees his hand and dummy ahollan1: a) does teramoto trust north’s carding in b) did North give accurate count santyclz: I would have led the a (opening), because my pd always has a stiff in my suit. yo_yo: should West cover the 9? yo_yo: or will he, i guess not sharkey: then it makes i think - if she lets 9 sail.... ahollan1: specs calling for 14 mcarroll: maybe even -2 jaapfr: i am still online:)? xenya: likely -2 MolvaM: rahmi beyden vugraphzkg: 2♠ye 2♣ gidiyor dedi karo vale kuzeydeyse 6 oluyor diye claim yaptˆ‰ cindy: he had his bid.. A mdgraham: you don’t have them, and partner is a bit short of them too xenya: not exactly a happy contract idblu: if trust count in ’s...3-3, that the best line wilkinsona: and can be -300.. 3 wilkinsona: not easy, but a spade may be best here idblu: makes now othered1: east, however, rode to NS’s rescue, trading a likely plus for a likely minus, maybe 200 shevek: if ♣ 3-3 they can wait.... jaapfr: glad operator did not like it either:) tokay1975: sonu guzel bitti buyuksehir icin MolvaM: kahvede briˆ§ oynarken "kaˆ ˆ‰dˆ‰n hakkˆ‰nˆ‰ vermek" kavramˆ‰ vardˆ‰. bu o galiba serhat: iyi durdular ahollan1: i thought rule was -- partner always has stiff when you rebid the suit.. 5 fabsayc: agree this is subpar overcall, but is all a matter of style othered1: A matter of style and some top champions do well with it (but I don’t) ahollan1: [7 X] deniz_t: kanˆ‰mca 3 nt yapˆ‰lacak ovncylmz: karo cikisi zor ama bence eccone: naturel atak herzaman kazandˆ‰rˆ‰rr diye tokay1975: 9lumu koyucak? tokay1975: tebrikler 2 takˆ‰mada bu devre icin MolvaM: maˆ§tan sonra soracaklar arkadaˆ larˆ‰ ¨ © ¨ ¨ © ¨ © © ¨ - 133 - ¨ na "5nt tam bordunu ne yaptˆ‰nˆ‰z" diye eccone: imkansˆ‰z.. T aruf: bir batacak akgun: guney pasif savunmaya gectigi surece sorun yok aruf: karo ruayˆ‰ bilse ortagˆ‰nda 2 batacaktˆ ‰ deniz_t: kˆ¶rˆ… ezmedi maalesef ama bakˆ‰caz eccone: evet j♣ ovncylmz: o 2tanenin birisinin onor olma ihtimali %70 civarinda arigun: 2♠ demeye korkardi muhtemelen, ancak bu durum yani masa psikolojisi her duzeyde oyuncu icin etken tehlikeli bir faktor, hepimiz bu ruh haline sˆ‰k sˆ‰k dusebiliyoruz snorris: w has to lead ♠.. J marlowepi : true enough tony--but then even MORE likely that NS would end up saving athene: yes, best to keep that club tenace intact othered1: Will west continue ? riyilikci: :) bˆ…yˆ…k olasˆ‰lˆ‰kla herkes saygˆ ‰ ile yere baktˆ‰ nezihk: ikinci kore J gelince J10 lu mu yoksa Kj mi karar vermeli eccone: dogunun pas ta pasif oldu gibi yakop: 4 karo diyorum, ortak 4♠ derse de canˆ‰ m sˆ‰kˆ‰larak pas diyorum vahaboglu: 2 batar wilkinsona: trumps for -2 now.. A snorris: right wilkinsona: spec says 3N OR going a pos -3 wilkinsona: possible 13 imps wilkinsona : makes it a tight match with one board to go snorris: has been confirmed snorris: 3nt -3 cindy: doesnt really matter what they play if S bids 4♠ thommos: 3D was likely make sharkey: According to the "book" games should be bid with a success rate of about 38% - view the high payout if it makes ovncylmz: diger masada 3sp oynaniyor su anda ovncylmz: J109X trefl mustafaozk: bu board Isparta iˆ§in potansiyel tehlike diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yorum kapalˆ‰da ne olucak bakacaz sengulerz: 4 iˆ§eri 400 mˆ… 5 iˆ§eri 500 mˆ… olacak merakˆ‰mˆ‰z budur yakop: bence dogru cevap bu eerbil: 6-4-5 sˆ‰rasˆ‰ ile de verilebilirdi pikler tez: 2♠=davet elim var demekti..izleyiciye bilgi ¨ ¨ © ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) sharkey: I bid 1 NT with E hand - show shape if ©¨ not 4 .. 7 othered1 : The double of 6 ♠ deserves to be costly ahollan1 : philosophically -- i wonder what difference are between south’s immediate 4♣ vs RDBL [forcing 3♠] then 4♣ ahollan1: maybe one of those would convince Ino that his are biddable idblu: I was away for a few min...seems to have missed something here :) akgun: ezse bile antre sorunu vardˆ‰ eccone: solda KQJ10X halini dˆ…sˆ…n tez: orhan in eliyle ne derdiniz?2 ?3 ?1nt?2nt? vahaboglu: ♣ ˆ§aka da alˆ‰r tez: N.Zorlu=nafiz arkadasligimiza verin MolvaM: bir saniye lˆ…tfen resmi teˆ ekkˆ…r fasl ˆ‰ geliyor ... yo_yo: undo.. 2 ovncylmz: batmaz ki yine sengulerz: gib e baktˆ‰m.. 4 batar diyor idblu: that he did....W was suspect.. 8 snorris: it would be 3♣ or 2 ♠ in my book wilkinsona: seems so... a glimmer of hope for the Oz team ralfwil: in fact 4♠ is a cheap save against 4 with J10xx in ♣ on N ahollan1: A, J [north pitching ] twcho: unbelievable nezihk: 2 H deyip gelene 4 sp demek! fabsayc: need spade now for -2.. 9 jaapfr: you agree with line of play (me not) jaapfr: so my -1 eccone: declerasyonu bilmiyoruz tabi eccone: ayrˆ‰ca zaten sana kalmˆ‰yacak bu kontrat MolvaM: bunlarˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ne dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ne bu hale dˆ…ˆ tˆ…k zaten wilkinsona: may make 4Sx sometimes.. 4 idblu: and 5♠X on this def cindy: thats not the only way to get to 4♠ xenya : but declarer can get out for -1 if he persists with trumps santyclz: Needed to take the finesse. ovncylmz: salvador assael 2c ye dbl atmis, 3clye nafiz zorlu 3 deyince de 3♠ ye duzeltmis akgun: guney hep pasif oynarsa -2 aruf: hepinize iyi gˆ…nler arkadaˆ lar iyi seyirler salona gitmem gerekiyor ovncylmz: bol sans maclarda nezihk: baˆ arˆ‰lar eccone: batmaz ama naturel ¨ © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ovncylmz: ben katiliyorum sana kabexnuf: bi dahaki sefere batar ovncylmz: :) eccone: sen oynamayacaksˆ‰n yane nezihk: ekspasa giderse batacak riyilikci: BODRUM 14.0 VALENTˆ NO 48.0 riyilikci: BURDUR 45.0 Bˆ Yˆ Kˆ EHˆ R BEYAZ 34.0 tez: koc simdi ♠ oynayacak..ortakta tek dam kalmis olabilir diye tokay1975: ˆ iir gibi defans MolvaM: ˆ ncelikle bu turnuvaya 4 yˆ‰ldˆ‰r ev sahipliˆ i yapan..ve bˆ…yˆ…kˆ ehir briˆ§ takˆ‰m ˆ‰nˆ‰ oluˆ turan izmir bˆ…yˆ…kˆ ehir belediye baˆ kanˆ‰ sayˆ‰n Sn Aziz Kocaoˆ lu’nu da kutluyor ve teˆ ekkˆ…r ... MolvaM: ediyoruz ahollan1: with the particular auction we have, i would play North for absolute worst hand for slam potential -- so South gets vast majority of the charge here..♣2 wygbe1: well he did go down at 5d - or would have if e didnt pitch h ovncylmz: 8 oldu a takimi riyilikci: YILANKIRAN 20.0 J.YILANKIRAN 11.0 cindy: i might have dbld 1N.. 6 ralfwil: If score sheet is ok, 6 went down in OR but 7 made in CR(!) idblu: still wouldn’t help eccone: kˆ¶rˆ… ezsede yapamazdˆ‰ yakop: ama canˆ‰mˆ‰zˆ‰n sˆ‰kˆ‰lmamasˆ ‰ iˆ§in bi formul olmalˆ‰ deminki elle bu aynˆ ‰ mˆ‰ sizce vahaboglu: zaten deklerasyondan ♣ kˆ‰sa oldu ˆ u kesin wilkinsona: trumps ace..♣K snorris: this has been quit some comeback wilkinsona: assuming the adjusted score stands shevek: J gone, really? athene: probably went 9 Q K A and a spade return mariner1: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/ Beijing.08/Graphics/DSC_3471-Seniors-Gold.jpg.. ♣3 mariner1 : Japan Gold Medal in World Mind Sports Games snorris: 11 hp outside ♠.. sybarra: well that made life easy ralfwil: and EW have cooperated with the recovery snorris: disclaim.. sharkey: Thus EW pushed - NV they may have © ¨ © ¨ ¨¨ ¨ ¨ - 134 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) settled for 3♠ santyclz : Sry, still short a pitch even with 2 entries to dmy. idblu: complete cross ruff now..2♣ and 1 aruf: gˆ…ney her yerden bi ekmek arayˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ §inde :) eerbil : o zaman da tek sayˆ‰ olur ama pik preferansˆ‰nˆ‰ reddeder MolvaM: herkese gˆ…naydˆ‰n :).. K MolvaM: maˆ§ˆ‰n sonuna mˆ‰ yetiˆ ebildim? tokay1975 : 8 11 ve 12 eren takˆ‰mˆ‰ icin potansiyel kazanc tokay1975: aradaki farkˆ‰ kapamalari icin riyilikci: devre sonuˆ§lari iˆ§in http://clubs.vugraph.com /tbricfed/teams_event.php?event=172&stage=369 vugraphzkg: mustafa akgˆ…l tarafˆ‰ndan claim edildi tokay1975: ve9 riyilikci: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams _round.php?round=1409 sharkey: W may have overbid when bidding 3♠ 2♠ may have shown his hand..♣6 akgun: ancak erhan da top eccone: gˆ…naydˆ‰n paˆ am kabexnuf: 2-3 bord var herhalde eccone: en heyecanlˆ‰ yeri kabexnuf: gunaydin riyilikci: artˆ‰k ˆ¶yle bir ˆ ans kalmadˆ‰ nezihk: evet MolvaM: Tˆ…rkiye Kˆ‰ˆ Dˆ¶rtlˆ… Takˆ‰mlar ˆ ampiyonasˆ‰nˆ‰n sonuna geldik. ˆ ampiyon ˆ zmir Bˆ…yˆ…kˆ ehir Belediyesi takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰ ve dereceye giren tˆ…m takˆ‰mlarˆ‰ kutluyoruz. MolvaM: ˆ ampiyonanˆ‰n baˆ ˆ‰ndan bu yana her devre vugraf sunumu yaparak bizlere gˆ…zel bir briˆ§ ˆ ˆ¶leni yaˆ atan Tˆ…rkiye Briˆ§ Federasyonu ’nu, Baˆ kan Fahir ˆ zˆ…mcˆ…’yˆ… ve yˆ¶ netimdeki tˆ…m ... MolvaM : gˆ¶revlileri kutluyor ve teˆ ekkˆ…r ediyoruz. Artˆ‰k alˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰k. ˆ lerideki turnuvalar ˆ‰ vugraf olmadan geˆ§emeyiz. ralfwil: that´·s better..♠3 aruf: tˆ kler herkese eccone: ortak pastan geliyor sende bˆ¶le bi el cindy: let W squirm..♠6 ralfwil: I will show at least a half ♠ stopper snorris: to much for 1 nt deniz_t: kapalˆ‰ kart tabiki acele etmemek lazˆ ‰m:) aruf: ve kagˆ‰t oldu riyilikci: gelecek devre 14:00’da MolvaM: Bu yayˆ‰nˆ‰ bizlere adeta masa baˆ ˆ ¨ ¨ - 135 - ‰ndaymˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰z gibi canlˆ‰ olarak getiren ve gˆ¶nˆ…llˆ… olarak ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ an sevgili vugraf operatˆ¶rlerimize ˆ¶zellikle ˆ§ok ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…r ediyoruz. sharkey: sry - I mistook the bidding.. Q athene: ok, so australia still alive ahollan1: now ping pong match -ruffs vs ruffs fabsayc: you can’t, you passed west hand..♠2 cindy: i mean with E riyilikci: Kuˆ adasˆ‰ iˆ§in farkˆ‰ azaltma ˆ ansˆ ‰ doˆ du..♠5 koksoy: sonuc olarak bu bir oyun... vahaboglu: gˆ…zel savundular vulkan: byee..♠J ¨ ¨ © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 3♠ c 3♣ 14 this/total IMPs Quantum 113 Primabridge 3 77 W -1 50 S 4 130 14 6-9 ♠10 4 4-5 K7 7-8 10 6 6-7 9-10 ♣ A10 9 7 6 5 3 ♠ AQ976 2 N ♠J85 A6 10 9 4 3 W E K J4 Q7 32 S ♣Q J ♣8 4 ♠K 3 2-3 8 Q J852 2-5 A985 5-6 ♣K 2 2-3 -300 W: Andonov W X 2♠ p ©K,3,5,6 ¨J,6,2,5 ª2,T,J,K §2,Q,A,8 #1 N:: #3 W:: #5 W:: #7 S:: N: Nanev Open S: Mihov N E p 1N p 3♣ 3♠ p E: Popov S 1 2♣ p © ©7,4,2,A ªA,4,5,3 §K,J,3,4 ¨T,3,A,4 #2 N:: #4 W:: #6 S:: #8 N:: roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our very efficient operator, Momchil Aleksandrov. Great Job! Many thanks and our appreciation to the Bulgarian Bridge Federation ... roswolf: (Stan Nedkov) roswolf: for allowing us to broadcast from this event. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Henry, Mike, Nick and Roland for their wit and perceptive comments and to our specs .....p roswolf: whose contributions keep us on our toes lestergold: indeed and i have recived manyexcellent comments form specs..1 .. ..1N!..p ndemirev: e-w can make 3S..2♣ ndemirev: so this can be a double partial Walddk3: Specs have messaged Mike to tell him how to install a spell-checker ©¨ roswolf: primabridge will need that lestergold: and ten tricks in clubs can be prevented but only on a spade lead..2♠ lestergold: from east of course..3♣..3♠..p lestergold: impossible on this auction lestergold: par not reached..p..p.. K ndemirev: that would 7 imps for the underdogs.. 3 lestergold: i think this is off Walddk3: Play resumes tomorrow at 8:30 Central European Summer Time (9:30 local time). Remember to put your clock/watch one hour forward tonight if you live in Europe vugraphb1: ty all nice kibitzers thanks to all commentators and to Roland Wald for this broadcast ndemirev: sorry NS may find a promotion on that lead ndemirev: or no entry as it is ... .. 5.. 6.. 7.. 4.. 2.. A.. J.. 6.. 2.. 5 lestergold: alert kib has pointed out 3n form south makes surely as cards lie roswolf: this is at least -1 since no quick entry to dummy vugraphb1: tomorrow 8:30 AM CET... and don’t forget the change of the time roswolf: Ace and another trump seems best ndemirev: that equires too much Walddk3: Live broadcast from Israel in progress, and tomorrow we have Bulgaria and China for you..♠A..♠4..♠5..♠3..♠2 ndemirev: *requires ..♠T..♠J..♠K Walddk3: http://online.bridgebase.com/vugraph/ schedule.php for full schedule ..♣K..♣J..♣3..♣ 4 ndemirev: who mentioned that spell checker - i need it roswolf: a couple of imps to the trailing team..♣ 2..♣Q..♣A..♣8.. T.. 3 Walddk3: May I suggest that you bookmark that site where all times are local to *you*. That will save me from lots of questions about where, when and what. Thank you.. A.. 4 roswolf: bye all Walddk3: Thanks all and bye for now ndemirev: thanks all lestergold: bye and thx all vugraphb1: bye for today and thanks once again © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 136 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 3♠ c 3♣ 14 this/total IMPs Primabridge 3 77 Quantum 113 W -1 50 S 4 130 14 6-9 ♠10 4 4-5 K7 7-8 10 6 6-7 9-10 ♣ A10 9 7 6 5 3 ♠ AQ976 2 N ♠J85 A6 10 9 4 3 W E K J4 Q7 32 S ♣Q J ♣8 4 ♠K 3 2-3 8 Q J852 2-5 A985 5-6 ♣K 2 2-3 -300 W: V.Aronov W X 2♠ p § © © #1 W:: J,3,4,K #3 N:: K,3,2,A #5 S:: Q,6,7,4 N: S.Skorchev Closed E: J.Stefanov S: B.Popov N E S p 1 1N p 2♣ 3♣ p p © § ¨ ©ª ¨ © #2 S:: 2,Q,A,8 #4 W:: J,6,2,A #6 S:: J, 2, T, 9 mariner1: that is a photo of the Senior team mariner1: this is the last board of this session, next in 45 minutes frankaus: tu for your company cindy, marshall, barbara, rob, kibs - tu BBO and all at NEC formaking this vugraph possible mariner1: a big THANKS! to Unknown (Japan) our superb operator, for doing an excellent mariner1: job!!! idblu: last hand? ralfwil: must be wrong - or? ralfwil: OK- last board snorris: ♠ lead to the ace and later a finesse!! wilkinsona: well defended then.. othered1: That was a little punishing for getting to an inferior but not hopeless spot. sybarra: and last bd now ralfwil: 3 by E and 4 by W wasn´·t good idblu: last hand everyone...thanks for the insights :) ¨ © - 137 - © Walddk4: 27 IMPs = 22-8 VP. It’s touch and go whether Hackett can afford that; will depend on results in other matches mpny : Reaching game here is a very normal result, despite the four top losers sharkey: Potential swing here caitlin: how the tide has turned ahollan1: i have no idea if my defense is any better xenya: any other play allowes the defence to score their trumps separately athene: 15 imps in 3 boards athene: easily possible shevek: let’s not forget real score is 78-58 athene: but a good result for China here athene: ah right good point ahollan1 : for a minute i thought i knew the answer --- but turns out I AM wearing the correct pair of glasses wygbe1: his line needed diam q coming down plus 33h = so might as well ruff h before playing d, which would lead to down one jaapfr: ok now we must support Jepan:) wygbe1: what a comeback by the china women xenya: indeed xenya: time to relax? -- looks like a quiet partial by NS jaapfr: would be sensational for the chinese girls to beat the whole male field:) wygbe1: like the cardinals in the super bowl - so will japan now do what pittsburgh did? for u.s. players only jaapfr: they are all asleep Jim roswolf: this is going to the wire i think ovncylmz: ama o masada kimse acmamis ilk 3pozisyonda aruf: Reha tebrik etmeye gideyim mi hala ?:) akgun: evet 2 kere lutfen:) deniz_t: yakˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰klˆ‰ sen git gene tbr et:) ovncylmz: bu el onemli riyilikci: turnuva ile ilgili diˆ er bˆ…tˆ…n bilgiler iˆ§in http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php?option =com_content&view=article&id=125:ki-doertluetakimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:... riyilikci: 2008-2009-sezonu&Itemid=99 ovncylmz: yarin sabah hangi maci izleyecegimiz belli mi? yakop: emrenin 4d dedigi elle kˆ‰yaslayˆ‰n eccone: 13. board 4♠ denilip yapˆ‰lˆ‰rsa 2 imp kalˆ‰yor tez: ♠ oynayinca ortagin tek dam kozu buyur vugraphzkg: mola verildi Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) yakop: bu elde swing olabilir tokay1975: paˆ am mert bizi duymus olabilirmi tez: super konusmaydi tokay1975: pas dedigine gore koksoy: insanlarˆ‰n kendilerini cok fazla germelerine ve baskˆ‰ altˆ‰na almalarˆ‰na gerek yok koksoy: hayˆ‰rlˆ‰sˆ‰ neyse o olur MolvaM: konfˆ…ˆ§yˆ…z gibi konuˆ tun enver :) cindy: thx all :)..p mariner1: Many thanks to the NEC (sponsor), the JCBL and Akito Omasafor helping BBO mariner1: bring us the vugraphs! mariner1: and thanks for their wit and insight to my co-commentators Barbara Apel, Marshall mariner1: Lewis and Cindy Marshall (USA), and Frank Budai (Australia), and Roland Wald mariner1: (Denmark).....I am Rob Brown (USA) ........ mariner1: Roland Wald (Denmark) is the BBO vugraph co-ordinator and works diligently at it! cindy: E has the hand i dont want to pass and dont want to bid 2S cindy: yes it is Walddk4: Corrected to 12 ralfwil: ok sybarra: of this set cindy: ok nail biter here wilkinsona: north playing 2 hearts OR snorris: 2 ?? wilkinsona: Last board othered1: 3 boards to go in a tied match. bg: now tied three to go cannot get any better than this ralfwil: E must have a perfect cound on S so a trumph continuation was obvious chessmaste: Looks like a regulation game here riyilikci: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 riyilikci: hayˆ‰r, maˆ§larˆ‰ sonuˆ§larˆ‰ ˆ¶ˆ rendikten sonra seˆ§iyoruz irwinbo: she gave him count on the hearts, isn’t that a major error by west?..1 nafiz : http://online.bridgebase.com/vugraph/ schedule.php detaylˆ‰ canlˆ‰ yayˆ‰n program linki aruf: ok :))) valla uzak dururum oralardan ben bizimkilere bakacagˆ‰m artˆ‰k :) akgun: 1d undo? nezihk: karo passˆ‰na 6 kor olabiliyor © © ¨ barbyh: can they get to 4 sp.. mariner1: Last but not least, a round of applause for our hosts: Fred, Sheri, Uday, Bill Gates, mariner1 : Sharon Osberg, and David Smith. Without them there would have been no mariner1: broadcasts. Thanks a lot for creating a site that is greatly appreciated by bridge mariner1: lovers worldwide! mariner1: http://www.jcbl.or.jp/game/nec/necfest.html Tournament site cindy: thx everyone !! idblu: you really don’t open that Martin...do you? Walddk4: Last board of the match in this room now. Many thanks to our (unknown) operator in Yokohama. Fine job! snorris: obviously thought the lead was a singelton othered1: 1 big ♣,preempt? wilkinsona: Last board just now and the Chinese Women have played well here I would say snorris: not 2 ♠ ? wilkinsona: relyably informed so snorris: well.. more to come for hackett then snorris: 4 ♠ will be tried probably wilkinsona: ..so thanks to everyone in Japan marlowepi: last hand, restart in about half an hour i think wilkinsona: well I take it all back ... if you can make 5Sx the biddings ok idblu: he played pard for the singleton cindy: Levin opened 3♠ in the open room ahollan1: south never did get a chance to determin if partner held ♠K athene: 20 imps and it’s hard to see a gain on this one ahollan1: maybe the final lesson --- don’t double 6♠ when not sure of beating the escape Walddk4: 25 IMP swing it was. Lost 16, could have gained 9 idblu: they shld pour cold water on their faces and relax before they go on tilt idblu: slam swings going the wrong way b_eymen: 3 de kalˆ‰nˆ‰r gibi aruf: neyse herkese iyi akˆ amlar iyi briˆ§ seyirleri deniz_t: saol sana da yakˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰klˆ‰:) eccone: iyi aksamlar akgun: iyi aksamlar ovncylmz: 4sp ve 5cl oluyor sanki ovncylmz: su an hem 4.mac skorlari ovncylmz : hem de butler durumu tamamiyle girilmis durumda ovncylmz: 5♠ 4 6-9 tarzi bi sey galiba nezihk: 2 sp 5pik 4+ kor olsa gerek © © - 138 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) koksoy: son bir senelik felsefem serhat: diger odada 17.10 Tr olarak anaons edildi tez : 1 yari daha var..henuz kimse sevinecek MolvaM: 10uncu eccone: evet 9imp nezihk : kuzey ˆ aka gibi diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ… durumda degil mariner1: Marshall if you win your Vegas bet I need a bailout! :)..1N! idblu: or doubleton idblu : check here for results and info on the tournament http://www.jcbl.or.jp/game/nec/ necfest09/nec.html othered1: This has been a match of two separate sprints, so far, and Japan’s result in the Open Room on this hand makes theirs likely to continue. xenya: so it looks like a potential gain for Japan vulkan: KG 3 yapabiliyor b_eymen: 1♣ ten sonra zor ovncylmz: upps, su an gordum 4-0trefli MolvaM: beklendiˆ i gibi 10 bordda altan takˆ‰m ˆ‰ yˆ…ksek konuˆ masˆ‰nˆ‰n mˆ…kafatˆ‰nˆ ‰ aldˆ‰ yakop: bi tane cengaver ˆ§ˆ‰ktˆ‰:) riyilikci: diˆ er maˆ§lar http://clubs.vugraph.com/ tbricfed/teams_round.php?round=1409 yakop: ufugun 2 hu hakanˆ‰ bayagˆ‰ rahatlattˆ ‰ vahaboglu: Ufuk biraz konservatif davrandˆ‰ tez: son 2 bord kuzey guney icin sorunsuz..diger masada 430 ve 50 almis kuzey guney tez: son yari 20 30 da MolvaM: 1 yarˆ‰ daha olduˆ una sevinmemize izin var mˆ‰? othered1: And how high will east now go?..p sybarra: thx to our terrific operator, well done, wilkinsona: perhaps.. irwinbo: then there was no need to cash Walddk4: They can’t afford a game swing here, that’s almost certain othered1: east didn’t have, or chose not to make a support double in the open room. athene: 2 :) othered1: East is to blame for west having to defend 6N. West misread the hand and I think had enough clues, assuming east’s lead of 5th best was the correct spot to lead by their ... othered1: agreements idblu: have lost more than 40 imps being the wrong way on 3 slams santyclz: Now Fred, you know you can’t admit we’re rooting for CHINA Women. eccone: dbl eccone: ve neden 1♣ eccone: sistemmi buda yordur © © - 139 - ovncylmz: wow yakop: mac zaten foto finiˆ te bitecek yakop: 3 h deseydi karˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰rdˆ‰ iˆ ler koksoy: ˆ¶nceki 26 seneyi karˆ‰stˆ‰rma :) MolvaM: ama bu yˆ…zden konfˆ…ˆ§yˆ…z hiˆ§ tˆ …rkiye ˆ ampiyonu olamadˆ‰ fabsayc : i am happy to pass east hand, way worse than that 1♠ overcall..2♣! cindy: yes good job ! sharkey: Operator - can you verify the score board 30 pls ahollan1: but i still like make signals clear to partner -- ♠10 was no help akgun: 1c yanlis ovncylmz: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ teams_event.php?event=172&stage=368 riyilikci: maˆ§lar saat 11:00 da baˆ lˆ‰yor barbyh: 4 sp good save..2♠ othered1: The Women’s team has played rather soundly fabsayc: pass? wilkinsona: and after te Excellent 4 spades here score now close yo_yo: opinions differ as the wisdom of responding 1 here ralfwil: 6 with the favourable split ahollan1: 2♠ = 5♠ 4+minor and 4-10 HCP fabsayc : i am told there is more excitement coming idblu: :) b_eymen: gˆ…ney iˆ§in agresif bi aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ deniz_t: bence 1♣ doˆ ru deklare nacizane akgun: yok boyle bir sey ovncylmz: linkimizi de verelim:) mustafaozk: 3d 3h 3s 4s? tuppermet: 3trefli burda trial deˆ il, ekstra kuvvet olarak oynamak uygun sanˆ‰rˆ‰m eccone: 2 ya xfer MolvaM: diˆ er masada aˆ ˆ‰rˆ‰ kompetisyonda dolayˆ‰ salvo-bafiz 7 diyememiˆ cindy: and thx to specs too lots of good feedback..3 © ¨ ¨ ¨ ♣ snorris: interesting.. idblu : yes...unusual high card shows higher suit...very simple ahollan1: and if DBL of 3 made any sense -then East 4 seems automatic to me idblu: we are impartial...may the best woman win :) © © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) josj: they will reach 4♠, I think josj: E opened in OR MolvaM: salvo-nafiz marlowepi: what is it this time rob? grand theft tricycle?..p cindy: lol bg: open room still 4 boards behind athene: 3 should be forcing here ovncylmz: 15.boardda bizi kritik bir 5♠ bekliyor daha MolvaM: ben katˆ‰larak vugraf yorumcu yaˆ ortalamasˆ‰nˆ‰ 2ye filan katladˆ‰m herhalde? :) kabexnuf: 3nt? eccone: bilgiyide ˆ¶le pasam MolvaM: :) ovncylmz: 6332 ile kaldirma ortak demek:) ovncylmz: 6322* ovncylmz: 2 6-9, 2♠ davet olabilir mi acaba? sistem atlanmis olmasin eccone: cubid yane riyilikci: bodrum-valentino 36-9 14 bord sonunda vahaboglu: Tayfun da 3 demedi nezihk: 5 NT, ne ayak hocam demek dimi tokay? tokay1975: :)) nezihk: hehe nezihk: hidayet diliyle tokay1975: kaptan burda olsa gozleri yasarirdi nezihk: dmeyene kart vermiyorlar MolvaM: ne ayak konvansiyonunu aˆ§ˆ‰klayˆ‰ n ozaman haydi :) nezihk: pozitif korler dedin de neyin pozitif tokay1975: 5cl pasa daha iyi bi deklarasyonu varmˆ‰ bence gayet iyi dedi snorris: well here it is a singelton..p ralfwil: So what to do else than ♠A ralfwil: ♣A!! wilkinsona: in fact Oz may even be winning after the last hand snorris: good for n-s snorris: the limit it seems idblu: except that pard could get a ruff ralfwil: a ♠ lead is killing! athene: but del’monte is dead minimum for his 3 ♣ and decides game just isn’t there Walddk4: Maybe East, but East did not help her partner one bit, and after all it’s a partnership game nezihk: temkinli oynarsa yapar riyilikci: gelecek devre 17:10 ama bu geˆ§ bitecek baˆ hakem ne karar verir bilmiyorum belki 3-5 dakika geˆ§ kalˆ‰rˆ‰z mariner1: :) close, I do ride bicycles..p ¨ © © cindy: more congressive bidding Walddk4: Also thanks to our excellent commentators: Snorri, Carl, Tony and Ralf snorris: up with the king snorris: yes! wilkinsona: dont think Paul will go -3 though ralfwil: WOW werge: ♠-lead = game Walddk4: Maybe Ed I mean vulkan: 4 den ˆ¶nce duramazlar heralde b_eymen: imkansˆ‰z vugraphzkg: kesinlikle eccone: ortagˆ‰n 5li ♠ de kollamak icin dbl demek lazˆ‰m 1 acˆ‰sˆ‰ndan sonra tabi eccone: tref partas olsa oda olucak eccone: q 2 li!k rua doru yerde tek eccone : atagˆ‰na kˆ‰saldˆ‰gˆ‰ icin declaran batˆ‰yor eccone: onada olur heralde akgun: eˆ it olur R sp tek oldugu icin eccone: olmaz eccone: gˆ…neyi agresif gˆ¶rdˆ…m bugˆ…n dadim: guneyden pas dien? nezihk: yapmak iˆ§in 2 iˆ§eri gider diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ …nˆ…yorum vahaboglu: katˆ‰lˆ‰yorum tez: sana hersey serbest pasam:) mariner1: well the good news is 2♠ is not in doubt here..♣J Walddk4: So a maximum win for the seniors. You need 39 IMPs for 25-5 and this will likely be 25-4 Walddk4: Swiss format from round 2 snorris: right lead this time.. fabsayc: granted not perfect for double, but not forcing situation for me othered1: despite a style of opening very aggressively snorris: -2 likly yo_yo: too difficult to reach the slam then yo_yo: not much of a slam though ralfwil: agree Kath caitlin: not sure why anyone would X this ahollan1: sorry -- at equal vul promised 55 b_eymen: K♠A♠ akgun: ayrica dam dia 2 li tabiki:) arigun: atak kotu baslang,c oldu defans icin MolvaM: evet MolvaM: tek parˆ§a karo ile pek iyi bir beklentiasi yok bu elin bence eccone: 2NT cok fazla agresif eccone: en ˆ¶nemlisi tek ovncylmz: 2nt abarti oldu bence biraz © ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ - 140 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) vugraphzkg: carding duzmu sorusuna "duz duz cevabˆ‰ mustafaozk: kestirmeden 4s:) vugraphzkg: 2♣ aˆ§ayˆ‰mmˆ‰ die dˆ…ˆ ˆ… ndˆ…ˆ ˆ… iˆ§in buna 4 dedi:) MolvaM: gecikme cezasˆ‰ var mˆ‰ idblu: I would want to be in game looking at all 4 hands...unlucky everything off..♣3 sybarra: thx to co commentator for hanging in until the end with me, and to the other "co’s" on the way b_eymen: 3 nt ilginc olabilirdi ama b_eymen: ♣ eccone: ♣ i2 kere almayˆ‰nca batˆ‰yor yakop: ali de 4 h demedi:) arigun: milli takim kamplarindaki NLP sonrasi bir hafta bende nirvanaya bir gidip gelmistim, ama bir bayram ziyaretine Nigde’den dondukten sonra ozume hizli bir donus yaptim cindy: ty Shirley ! :)..♣4 yo_yo: looks as if Wang rejected the 4-4 ♠ fit serhat: Eksioglu cok bastˆ‰rˆ‰yor 7 icin.. nezihk: bu pasa metin 7 demeliydi, ercan daha ne deisn 2 kere pass dedi,, zavallˆ‰nˆ‰n baˆ ka kartˆ‰ da kalmadˆ‰ ki MolvaM: 6karo "keˆ ke grandˆ lem diyebilsek" konvansiyonu tokay1975: cl void olabilicegine hala inanci var tokay1975: 6dia dedigine gore nezihk: ya da as wilkinsona: seemed to have judged well to land in a making contract..♣K sybarra: thx also the NEC and all the folks who brought this terrific tourney to bbo Walddk4: Thanks to our very capable operator in Yokohama. Fine Job! roswolf: yup might have made 11 tricks in 4♠ vugraphzkg: gˆ…neyin pas atˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ gˆ¶ rmeniz lazˆ‰mdˆ‰ aˆ§tˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰na iˆ te o zaman piˆ man oldu gibi deniz_t: bu kontrat batabilir yada olabilir fakat bricde 3 lˆ¶veli el devdir genˆ§ arkadaˆ larˆ‰m oysaki Gˆ…neyde 6 lˆ¶ve var:) akgun: 2. kore cakmasin oyleyse eccone: batmˆ‰yor shevek: Fruewirth was sure 3 was forcing..♣2 Walddk4: They have been playing for a week and are very tired ahollan1: i guess the only things i agree with are: 2♣-2 ;2N-3 and opening lead of [just not sure about which spot was right for partnership] othered1: I agree that east could have clarified ¨ ¨ - 141 - © © freely with ♠J, but west still had count to disregard themessage. chessmaste: With the A onside there look to be 11 tricks in spades b_eymen: halbuki pas denizlse ˆ¶nce eccone: ahaha Walddk4: Finally, thanks to NEC for sponsoring the event, and our appreciation to the JCBL for bringing this prestigious tournament to BBO vugraph. Akito Omasa has been instrumental in .....♣Q Walddk4: setting up a fine show athene: but normally, you need about 17+ to double then bid a new suit, and 7 or 8+ for the free 3♣ bid, so the situation can be treated as game-forcing santyclz: 10 tricks, next. tokay1975: 8 el var 9 olurmu? eccone: f koksoy: 6. milli takˆ‰m kampˆ‰ndan sonra insana bir rahatlˆ‰k cˆ¶kˆ…yor :) marlowepi: i think the idea is just to make sure you get a plus in those situations..♣A irwinbo: you don’t need a ruff to beat it ralfwil: a ♣ shift for -2 Walddk4 : But I would like to go back to the double of 6♠. That caused the misery for poor West mustafaozk: asˆ‰ az ondan 2♣ aˆ§mamˆ‰ˆ tˆ ‰r istersen sor:) yakop: demin sordugum elin karˆ ˆ‰sˆ‰nˆ‰ yazˆ‰yorum siz karar verin ne oynayacagˆ‰nˆ ‰za riyilikci: burdur-izmir bbb 12 bord sonunda 12-56 eccone: and claim MolvaM: trefl kontrolum olsaydˆ‰ 6♣ derdim ben zaten MolvaM: diˆ er maˆ§tan haber var mˆ‰ fabsayc: a lot of finesses to take..♣8 othered1: I like that defense wilkinsona: or not to take (spades) sybarra: thx to Bruce Gowdy also, idblu: greed is a terrible thing wilkinsona: once again EW win the bidding.. irwinbo: thanks all cindy: ty :) next set in 25 min ? idblu: thanks everyone ...see you at about 10:20 wilkinsona: thanks to everyone in Japan, back soon I believe idblu: EST mdgraham: yes indeed b_eymen: sonra sonsuza kadar konusabilirdi © ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) b_eymen: ˆ¶nce alttan almak lazˆ‰m b_eymen: aˆ§ˆ‰slarda ˆ¶zellikle ovncylmz: 6.maclar kacta ve kimleri izliycez? MolvaM: maˆ§tan sonra hemen bunu sˆ¶ylemek lazˆ‰m ki tartˆ‰ˆ ma uzamasˆ‰n tokay1975 : ortakta cl kont disinda ne eksik olabilir bole konustugunda 7 icin tokay1975: 5nt ve 6dia dedi MolvaM: faturayˆ‰ ercan kuruya’mˆ‰ kestik yani? serhat: ole gozukuyor vugraphzkg: claim yaptˆ‰ mert bilgin 1 kˆ¶r alˆ ‰rˆ‰m dedi nezihk: ben o fikirde deˆ ilim, aksine sharkey: wud be surprised if anyone bids it.. K ralfwil: Now W wanted to bee a little bit higher ahollan1: always nice to have a flat hand after that kind of rollercoaster ride :( idblu: why switch to the at tr 2...pard led , return eccone: ♠ yatˆ‰rˆ‰p yapar riyilikci: varoˆ lu zabunoˆ lu 14 bord sonunda 286 tez: 2 11 144 iyi koz.zayif degil kuvvetli degil demek snorris: should be -1.. 3 Walddk4: and to our many excellent commentators xenya: i would think twice before biddin 2N as W yo_yo: has frue shown an acol 2 in ? ovncylmz: bu maclardan sonra yemek arasi var diye biliyorum MolvaM: ♣9 gˆ¶rˆ…nˆ…nce deklaranˆ‰n trefli boˆ lamasˆ‰na gerek kalmadˆ‰ nezihk: bord 8de 6 Karo oynanˆ‰yor idblu: they have to get the ♣ switch tho to beat 4...... 2 eccone: 2 tref verince batˆ‰yo zannediyorum sengulerz: makine de insanˆ‰n sinir sistemini zorlayacak eller veriyor.. en az hasarla kurtarmalar ˆ‰ iyi olur sengulerz: kozlarˆ‰nda ˆ‰srar etmeleri durumunda 50 yerine 500 verecek bir noktaya gelebilirlerdi ralfwil: K and ♣K and ♣.. A wilkinsona: -1 wilkinsona: careful defense needed vs 4 spades ralfwil: But it´·s only on a finess. Have played worse mcarroll: Yes and then I would hope to think for a third time xenya: a lead would have defeated 2N? eccone: baska biˆ iy vermiyo zaten © ¨ © © © © ¨ © ¨ © © deniz_t: bekleyelim bence:) akgun: 2. kore bir defos yapmasi gerekiyor eccone: bencede hersey olabilir eccone: onada gerek yok rehacˆ‰m akgun: artik sinekleri birakiyor karolara girmesi gerekir ¨ sharkey: yes - in 7 NT once off 3 aces.. J Walddk4: Finally, thanks to NEC for sponsoring the event, and our appreciation to the JCBL for bringing this prestigious tournament to BBO vugraph. Akito Omasa has been instrumental in ... Walddk4: setting up a fine show yo_yo: thanks everyone and order some sleeping pills Paul Walddk4: Thx all and bye for now sharkey: Ty all mdgraham: Thanks all, bye for now. mpny: take care all ralfwil: Thanks all. And have a nice thursday ahollan1: some call that treatment Muiderberg Twos, some Tartan Twos -- i’m not possitive about the differences idblu: here’s a slam their way...win 10-11 koksoy: mac + - 5 imple bitecek gibime geliyor riyilikci : tek taraflˆ‰ysa evet ama iki tarafta kusurluysa............. sybarra: think he is still "lurking" in here with us .. 6 ralfwil: Put in ♠9 on a ♠ from table and you can have a ruff after to A wilkinsona: East should really play the 9 on the first round of trumps perhaps frankaus: welcome roland .. 2 fabsayc: apparently the ladies have a 0.5 imp carryover werge: But decklarer might have a problem if North shifts to a werge: How to get the ♠ K? athene: it was a LOT easier for E-W in the other room eccone: karo karo ceksin MolvaM: nasˆ‰l olsa 1 kez daha durduruyor bu rengi eccone: pardon fabsayc: well maybe.. A cindy: what else ? fabsayc: more likely declarer tries for spade king onside fabsayc: tartan is more 55 othered1: Since it was east, with the void, who doubled 4 , it must have been a "table ¨ © ¨ ¨ © ¨ © © - 142 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) action." Or maybe south’s auction was too tempting athene : because north didn’t raise over the double santyclz: We, I mean they, are on the right side of the slam swing this time. chessmaste: South will not enjoy his discards josj: he does not know N holds stopper as well vulkan: biz tˆ…kler biraz ˆ…stten oynamayˆ‰ seviyoruz heralde :) vulkan: tˆ…rkler akgun: evet haklisin eymen nezihk: erene 14 imp tez: 11/14 Walddk4: Hello.. Q Walddk4: 28 IMP swing it was actually. 6NT would have been 2 down if West had picthed a heart in the end-game. 12 in instead of 16 out ahollan1: 9 -- another unclear discard :( b_eymen: ewet kart oyunu bˆ¶le geliˆ ir denilir hep :) eccone: su elle denilebilir mesala AXX AXXX JXX XXX exerdar: izmir yarˆ‰ final iˆ§in ˆ§ok avantaj yakalamˆ‰ˆ tez: on atagina yerden as konunca dam verilebilirdi..ortagin devamini saglamak icin marlowepi: Clone 4.. 6 fabsayc: also tartan 2 bids are much older, i think proposed first in the 1960’s xenya: yes, the shift is needed to hold MolvaM: okanˆ‰n 3nt deklaresi hakettiˆ i puanˆ ‰ aldˆ‰ bence MolvaM: zayˆ‰f deˆ il kuvvetli deˆ il kˆ‰smˆ‰ nˆ‰ pek anlamadˆ‰k tez: siz turkler orta kuvvet diyorsunuz galiba:) mcarroll: shift, Q lead, but certainly not obvious.. 7 chessmaste: 10 tricks are certain 11 will depend on South hanging on to his clubs yo_yo: he will surely do that looking a dummy akgun: simdi guneyin yuzu guldu eccone: cakmasˆ‰n eccone: karoyla cˆ‰kabiliyor vahaboglu: ♠ As Walddk4: Play will resume in about 20 minutes with a match from round 4. Welcome back then.. 4 vulkan: normal deklere verip fazla yapmaya ˆ§alˆ ‰ˆ sak olmaz ˆ‰ :) b_eymen: bence mahsuru yok akgun: dam dia yi ikliden almayida becerebilirse ¨ © ¨ ¨ © © ¨ © © - 143 - © eˆ it olacak eccone: ˆ¶br pikide cekerse batar yakop: ozgur 4 lu kozun hevesiyle 4 h dedi ortagˆ ‰na uysa guzel bi swing olurdu idblu: yes the China Women teams way.. J MolvaM: 39-16 izmir ˆ¶ndeymiˆ diˆ er maˆ§ta cindy: thx Bruce :)..♠2 bg: still not clear wher number nine coming from cindy: yes israel lucky to have a chance here cindy: i cant see 9 bg: S has to win and play clubs xenya: or a followed by a from S ahollan1: but East finds best shift idblu: :) bg: if he ducks ninth trick comes in hearts.. T bg: if NS are using udca S should have played dia deuce to first trick athene: people often laugh at these terrible raises but they do inconvenience opps yo_yo: jJ now? roswolf: HEART MORE LIKELY chessmaste : That would make life easy for South tez: ortak herzaman hata yapabilir..ona yardimci olmak gorevimiz idblu: that is the % play.. 9 cindy: yep wilkinsona: the 1nt -1 a push so all on this hand sengulerz: ♠ cindy: g’night all fabsayc: thanks all idblu: thx Cindy, Martin....witching hour here and 6AM comes early :) idblu: gn all :) fabsayc: i don’t book myself for single digit hours idblu: good habit snorris: well done hackett wilkinsona: so an uneventful match with thie Hacket team sneeking home ralfwil: Thanks Tony, Hans and Snorri. Nice to work with you snorris: thx wilkinsona: so thanks to everyone in Japan, more exciting bridge to come shortly wilkinsona: bye for now petergill: We believe the adjusted score to 2200 on Bd 7 was because, with screens in use, South gave West a misleading explanation which affected West’s decision to remove 2♠XX. othered1: That’s a funny-looking trick thommos: undo? © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 5♣ c 5♣ 15 this/total IMPs Quantum 113 Primabridge 77 N 5 600 N 5 600 15 7 ♠ AQ8 5 Q8 4 10 5 10 11 ♣ AK 9 7 4 2 ♠ J10 4 3 N ♠9 7 5 2 K9 10 7 6 5 W E AK Q6 5 2 J 43 S ♣Q ♣8 5 ♠K 6 3 7 A J 32 2 987 8 ♣ J10 6 3 2 -500 W: Andonov W ¨ ¨ 1 3 p p ¨ § © N: Nanev Open S: Mihov N E 2♣ X 5♣ roswolf: i always have fun ndemirev: 5 is down 3 but all hinges on teh ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © K position so it’s not a good spot .. 4.. 7.. K.. T lestergold: too risky.. Q ndemirev: it may even propel NS to 6C when it is right ..♣9.. 3.. 8..♣A..♣5..♣3..♣Q lestergold: it might propel them when its wrong to!..♣K..♣8..♣T.. 2.. 4.. 5.. J.. K ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © E: Popov S p 3♣ 4 p p p p ¨ ¨ § ¨ § ¨ #1 E:: 4,7,K,T #2 W:: Q, 9, 3,8 #3 N:: A,5,3,Q #4 N:: K,8,T, 2 #5 N:: 4,5,J,K lestergold: hi Mike from the UK here lestergold: n?s havwe 5c here ndemirev: hi again lestergold: N/S can make 5c but west will make life difficult no doubt lestergold: 5dx is only three off for 500 so shows a profit gainst the vulnerable game lestergold: Hi Nikolay..p Walddk3: Hi Mike, Nik and Geoffrey..1 !..2♣ ..p roswolf: hi all..3♣ lestergold: Hi Geoffrey ..3 .. ..p ndemirev: hi all lestergold: and hi Rolan..4 !..p roswolf: this looks a safe level..5♣..p..p..p lestergold: so N/S have done wellto reach their game and e/w have not found par with 5d vugraphb1: hello everybody :) this is the last set for today... HAVE FUN ¨ ¨¨ ¨ - 144 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) Board NS: EW: o 5♣ c 5♣ 15 this/total IMPs Primabridge 77 Quantum 113 N 5 600 N 5 600 15 7 ♠ AQ8 5 Q8 4 10 5 10 11 ♣ AK 9 7 4 2 ♠ J10 4 3 N ♠9 7 5 2 K9 10 7 6 5 W E AK Q6 5 2 J 43 S ♣Q ♣8 5 ♠K 6 3 7 A J 32 2 987 8 ♣ J10 6 3 2 -500 W: V.Aronov W ¨ ¨ 1 3 p p ¨ § N: S.Skorchev Closed E: J.Stefanov S: B.Popov N E S p p 3♣ 2♣ X! p 3 3♠ p 5♣ p p © ¨ § ¨ #1 E:: 4,7,Q,T #2 W:: A, 2, 3,8 #3 N:: A,5,3,Q bg: he did not want a spade ace continuation roswolf: another imp roswolf: this might be the death knell for japan b_eymen: 1 nt acmak iyi bu ellerle zon durumu uygun el fena degil b_eymen: batˆ‰nˆ‰n eliyle ovncylmz: ama hava guzel ovncylmz: onu biliorum b_eymen: nerde? ovncylmz: izmirde vugraphzkg: evet gˆ…zel bir hava var b_eymen: :) deniz_t: demek ki acele etmemeliyiz genˆ§ karde ˆ lerim:) MolvaM: ve birˆ§ok oyuncu normalde yapmayaca ˆ ˆ‰ hatalarˆ‰ bu turnuvalarˆ‰n ilerleyen aˆ amalarˆ‰nda yapabiliyor ovncylmz: a takimi sadece 4kisiyle oynuyor ve bence iyi durumda olmalarina ragmen kopmus gibiler - 145 - eccone : 2NT nin konvansiyon olma ihtimali varmˆ‰? eccone: sevgili operatˆ¶r eccone: ne olcakki ya MolvaM: "ben kˆ¶tˆ… skorlardan sˆ‰kˆ‰ldˆ‰m iyi birˆ eyler olsun istiyorum" konvansiyonu bence eccone: :) vugraphzkg: hayˆ‰r natural tamamen ovncylmz: diger masada KG sikintida galiba, baksaniza 2nt ye:) nezihk: pik ataˆ ˆ‰na tedbirli oynmak gerekiyor tokay1975 : simdiki 4 eldende mutlaka puan kazaniaklar sengulerz: iˆ te tahmin budur vugraphzkg: :) ovncylmz: 6 = 5 -3 arigun: biz derken ? :) sadece ikimiz mi :) eccone: hehe eccone: 3 4 ♣ 2 as mˆ‰ˆ sorry tokay1975: 500 olur en az normal defansa 3dia xli riyilikci: 3x16 48 bord oynuyoruz riyilikci: varoˆ lu-zabunoˆ lu 35-6 oldu exerdar: batˆ‰dan oyun aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰rsa zon rahat sˆ¶yleniyor bu elde eccone: yapmak icin ♣ bulmasˆ‰ lazˆ‰m tez: ya devam edilse hayati kaymisti:) tokay1975: as spi koymadimi tokay1975: sp donusune yakop : hakan da X XXX DXX ADJXXX VEYA RX XXX XX ADJXXX OLSA ˆ ˆ LEM KABAK OLURDU MolvaM: zafer-irfan ˆ lemleri sˆ¶yleme serisine devam ediyor nezihk: salvo bunu yapar MolvaM: diˆ er masaya hˆ‰zlˆ‰ oyun cezasˆ‰ verilebilir ama eccone: abi yorum yapˆ‰yoruz oyun oynamˆ‰ yoruz ki..p ovncylmz: babam diye diyorum:) MolvaM: :) riyilikci: 13 nolu bordun idaresi gerˆ§ekten zor nezihk: potansiye swing ahollan1: i remember writeup of tartan in New Zealand or Australian mag from late 60s/early 70s -- so Martin is spot on..1 !..11-15p, 1+!D mcarroll: the Dutch inching back vugraphzkg: ˆ¶vˆ…nˆ§ kritik mi:) tez: son 2 MolvaM: bu tˆ…r maˆ§larˆ‰ faz farkla kaybetmek insanˆ‰ daha ˆ§ok ˆ…zˆ…yor. bu nedenle belki ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) bˆ¶yle kaybetmek daha makul wygbe1 : the underdog cardinals made a big comeback to go ahead with 2 minutes left only to lose on a last ditch rally by pittsburgh in the u.s. football super bowl..2♣ chessmaste: This does not look like a thriller unless they overbid eccone : ne yapacaklarˆ‰nˆ‰ degil nasˆ‰l olacaklarˆ‰nˆ‰ anlatˆ‰yoruz tuppermet: bordlar simultane olarak verilemiyor teknik bir nedenden herhalde nezihk: 1 terfl mi aˆ§ˆ‰yorsunuz 1 pik mi? tez: 4 e geldiklerinde t.ozbey kontr diyecek bence tez: pasam bisuru seyirci topladik..hasilat iyi:) MolvaM: polyanna gibi mi konuˆ tum? tokay1975: 1 sayiyla kaybetmekde cok uzmezmi paˆ am yo_yo: but East made a free bid ..p idblu: the China Women have played flawless to date....unfortunate 1 bad result so costly idblu: another slam.... santyclz: Yes, I’m trying to figure a way other than a full relay system to get there. mcarroll: And besides they dont have a Santonio to perform miracles ovncylmz: bu el kritik b_eymen: 5♠ nasˆ‰l gitmisler acep ovncylmz: yakinmisti cunku mac arasinda MolvaM: haklˆ‰ bence de eccone: bunuda zon derler heralde MolvaM: son 2 ele girdik. akˆ am maˆ§ˆ‰nˆ‰n kimler arasˆ‰nda olacaˆ ˆ‰ belli mi MolvaM: sayˆ‰n operatˆ¶rˆ…mˆ…z? ovncylmz: son el altan icin kotu olcak sanki vugraphzkg : belli deil ama buyuk ihtimalle Varoslu ile Epsilon Bornova arasˆ‰nda saat 20 30 da riyilikci: BBO aˆ§ik odada geˆ§ baslanmasini talep ediyor, biz de buna uyuyoruz nezihk: kor ataˆ ˆ‰na yanlˆ‰ˆ koyarsa trefl dˆ¶ nˆ…ˆ ˆ… batˆ‰rˆ‰r riyilikci: bu aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ lara asˆ‰mˆ‰zˆ‰ ˆ§ˆ‰ kmamˆ‰z beklenir ama riyilikci: kˆ¶r as ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰nca sorun kalmˆ‰yor tez : 2 puan var..oda dam ..ama kozdan 2 el almayi umit ediyor MolvaM: :) tez: 4 dermi ufuk? tez : 1 sayiyla kaybedince daha cok uzuluyor insan demek istedi ahollan1: Muiderberg were introduced somewhere © ¨ in scandinavia..3♣ xenya: what happened to 46? jaapfr: walter is also awake:) akgun: en guzelidir yorum yapmak:) yakop: transferi 4 diye alˆ‰r:) MolvaM: 3pik neymiˆ ? riyilikci: baˆ lama saati 17:10 tˆ…rkiye saati, starting 16:10 CET tez: 3♠=herhangi bir tek..10 12 puan..4lu tutus tez: 5 imp kapatacak bu elden sonra zabunoglu tokay1975: :) shevek: ah well, the penultimate board as Rob likes to say.....3 athene: even if N-S double E-W in 2♠ here for 470 that just isn’t enough yo_yo: did the Chinese ladies win this event in the past? idblu: thats taking a view vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 vugraphzkg: takˆ‰m kadrolarˆ‰nˆ‰ ve turnuva hakkˆ‰nda her bilgiyi bu linkten takip edebilirsiniz ovncylmz: 5c barajina denmis b_eymen: hmm ovncylmz: kuzeyden simdi gelen 3♠ var yan masada b_eymen: riskli b_eymen: demek cesaret ister cok ovncylmz: cok riskli deniz_t: o da doˆ ru eymen sen de haklˆ‰sˆ‰n:) ovncylmz: ama tabi ki ankara takimi cok daha iyi oynadi bu macta riyilikci: aˆ§ik oda 15-16 nolu bordlar ile basliyor tokay1975: nezih abi mustinin 3diasuna katˆ‰lˆ ‰yomusun eccone: 1100 oluyomus :) tokay1975: avci spi aldiginda dam h oynasa cl yerine oynayan boslamak zorunda simdi 5 love oluyodu defans icin MolvaM: beni 1 kiˆ i anladˆ‰, o da yanlˆ‰ˆ anladˆ‰ bg: 11 tricks here for a push all comes down to last board.. ! yo_yo: liu didnt even stop to think :) josj: Pik ist der Feind der Ohne nezihk: yapˆ‰cˆ‰ eli tarif edebiliyorlar mˆ‰, yani 2 nt ile 3 d nun farkˆ‰ ne? tokay1975: 3dia tercih gibidir sanirim tokay1975: herhangi bi el riyilikci: evet iki odada da klasik atak geldi, egale ¨ ¨ - 146 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) arigun: gecen el’de major fiti varken 3nt daha iyi idi... bu el’de oyle nezihk: 800 oldu MolvaM: kaˆ§ karo desin? MolvaM: 4? arigun: 12. boardda Zabunogluna 10 imp geliyor koksoy: ˆ¶bˆ…r odada 1 karo acˆ‰na 2 pikle girilmis 2nt pass olmus tokay1975: sordum yo_yo: oh well she wouldnt ..p petergill: Wang Hong Li’s light Precision 1 opening at the other table made game harder to reach there. chessmaste: This will clinch it for China petergill: but a spade switch? josj: still on time ovncylmz: hem de vugraphin ilk boarduydu o diger masada eccone: estahfurrullah :) ovncylmz: 2tane kritik zon soylediler ve yaptilar eccone: oo sˆ…per MolvaM: bu gece, 80 takˆ‰mˆ‰n 50’si elenecek. yani son maˆ§lar ˆ§ok kritik vugraphzkg: takˆ‰m kadrolarˆ‰nˆ‰ buradan ogrenebilirsiniz vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 nezihk: o zaman 2 nt den geˆ§meyi tercih ederim arigun: +1 olunca 9 olmus josj: if by N..3 b_eymen: kritik de sen :) ovncylmz: cok ufak bir istegimiz olsa izmirden? eccone: 4. den acˆ‰lˆ‰nca 4♠ dememk zor ahollan1: system and North’s 4-suit overcall create this swing -- whichever way it goes..p ahollan1: i’m told Muiderberg comes from The Netherlands geller: 4 imps to the Dutch for responding 2♠ rather than 3♠ to a transfer with ♠AKJT KJxx xxx ♣KQ xenya: the 4-1 split might kill this? idblu: 8 solid + another trick = slam idblu: wd ovncylmz: heyecanla karisik ozguven desek? b_eymen: iyi baslamˆ‰slar vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 vugraphzkg: takˆ‰m kadrolarˆ‰ ve konvasyon ¨ © ¨ © - 147 - © kartlarˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz nezihk: aˆ§ˆ‰k elde kolay gˆ¶rˆ…nen kontrat oysa ˆ§ok zor olabilirdi, 3-1 kˆ¶r 4-2 trefl ve kuzeyde as pik eccone: 1 nt sistem mi ˆ¶vˆ…nc? MolvaM: az ˆ¶nce de 22 puanlˆ‰ oyuncu tam hevesle beklerken kendisinden ˆ¶nceki oyuncu oyunu aˆ§mˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰ ovncylmz: skorlarla ilgili son tur oncesi bir pdf ya da excel falan hazirlanip konsa? eccone: batˆ‰nˆ‰n eliyle araya girmeyen? tokay1975: super atak yapti 5i batirdi tez : artik tayfun kontr demez..rakibin 5 ya kacmasindan korkar koksoy: levent gelinmesi zor bir zon demisti koksoy: bazen rakip sizi arkadan ittirir koksoy: sizde kosmaya baslarsˆ‰nˆ‰z :) MolvaM : benim rakiplerim genellikle ˆ¶nden ittiriyorlar beni koksoy: geri geri mi kosuyorsun ? arigun: biri de arkana comelmis duruyor degil mi pasam :) MolvaM: kesin tokay1975: 2diaya 2h demeyen varmˆ‰ yada diyen othered1: Now up to north to get a large swing back, evening thematch...3♠ santyclz : Once again, I’m not sure it can be beaten. santyclz: Great lead. b_eymen: bˆ¶yle bir rengi varken ♠ oynamaya calˆ‰smamak lazˆ‰m b_eymen: hocam siz ne dˆ…sˆ…nˆ…yosunuz? deniz_t: :) yakop: DEMˆ ˆ Tˆ M FOTO DA Bˆ TECEK Dˆ YE tokay1975: 8li diayu kurtartmˆ‰s defansa 10 cakip rua dia oynasa 500 oluyo rahatca arigun: kim o ? nezihk: 9lu karo boˆ oynamasˆ‰ gerekiyor tez: ben derdim ahollan1: 1 either denies 4-card Major -- or has strong hand..p ovncylmz: 3kore 3sp denmemeli mi? b_eymen: evet b_eymen: ortak pik var diyor ovncylmz : 3karoya dblin karolar oldugunu dusunmuyorum burda b_eymen: 1 actˆ‰ zaten pas derdi ovncylmz: evet b_eymen: rakip ♣ var derken bu ♠ olur ovncylmz: mert 10implik bir vurus icin hazirlaniyor ¨ © ¨ ¨ © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) ovncylmz: 1nt seminer/kamp eksikligi kabexnuf: :) eccone: :/ ovncylmz: gercek ama bu:) dunden beri ne 1ntler gorduk eymencim eccone: baban ˆ¶fkesini kusuyor batˆ‰ya eccone: :) ovncylmz: diil mi? mustafaozk: 13. board kapalˆ‰ odada deklere kuzeyden baˆ layˆ‰p 2h aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰nca tehlike ge ˆ§ti:) tuppermet: medium ellerle 13-16 trefli tercih etmek daha iyi sonuˆ§ veriyor gnlkle eccone: neyseki bu 4♠ tede sorun yok yakop: burda sorumluluk almak lazˆ‰mdˆ‰ ve irfan bunu yaptˆ‰ bu gercekten zor bi iˆ yakop: allah kolaylˆ‰k vbersin hepsine MolvaM: seyircilerimizden bu 3♣ e pas yok mu ˆ eklinde sorular geliyor. hayˆ‰r yok geller: It’S all Larry’s fault!..5♣ vulkan: katˆ‰lˆ‰yorum vulkan: 4-4 her zaman faydalˆ‰ deˆ il b_eymen: simdi 3♠ denilirse pas pas pas gidebilir MolvaM: seminerde siz siz olun 1nt demeyin mi diyorlar? MolvaM: :) kabexnuf: :) eccone: ahahha ovncylmz: :)harikaydi nezihk: 10 nolu bord diˆ er masada ne oynnanˆ‰ yor nezihk: bilen varmˆ‰ sengulerz: bu maˆ§ˆ‰n sonucunu merak ediyorum ama takˆ‰m arkadaˆ larˆ‰mˆ‰n yanˆ‰na gitmem gerekiyor.. kolay gelsin Rahmi.. iyi akˆ amlar herkese eccone: aminn MolvaM: son 2 elden sonra adrenalin baˆ ˆ‰mlˆ ‰sˆ‰ olduk. bu el aˆ§madˆ‰ seyircileri yo_yo: yes, i am told, but not this team..p athene : well the 1 ♣ opener makes it easy to place cards yo_yo: anyway they are playing fantastically well shevek: well done girls athene: only 18 hcp missing shevek: they did play well santyclz: The old-fashioned way. Bid what you think you can make. petergill: It’s normal to knock out A first, no reason to play on josj: sure... chessmaste: Now North has a chance to shine ¨ © josj: N should not duck twice vulkan : ˆ imdiki gibi uzun renge ˆ§akˆ‰lma tehliksi de var b_eymen: evet b_eymen: woow ovncylmz: bence su an masada 3 nin anlami tartisiliyor perdenin iki tarafinda da nezihk: karo partal olunca batmaz, pik as 3 lˆ… nezihk: 4 nasˆ‰l olmuˆ MolvaM: ortak reverse yaptˆ‰ktan sonra zayˆ‰f elleri gˆ¶stermek iˆ§in birˆ§ok ˆ§ift ˆ§eˆ itlki konvansiyon oynuyor MolvaM: ortak tabii ki koksoy: zabunoglu artˆ‰k finale 3 adˆ‰m uzakta petergill: If North ducks, is there a case to switch to , with North marked with A, and South more likely to have longer ♠?..p eccone: 4♠ riyilikci: 2sp kuzey nezihk: bu atak yusufun iˆ ini kolaylaˆ tˆ‰rdˆ‰ nezihk: kolankaya puan alacak demekki tokay1975: daha dogrusu tek sans tez: 3nt umutsuz vahaboglu: Q boˆ lanˆ‰rsa tokay1975: 3h yapiyoruz rakipte 3spe batiyor b_eymen: ♠ zaten bizim yan renk..p ovncylmz: wow ovncylmz: bu 1nt ile ilgili mactan sonra problem cikacagini dusunuyorum eccone: onunla kalsa iyi kabexnuf: :) eccone: dˆ…n yorulmuslar bes belli MolvaM: kuzey ortaˆ ˆ‰na yarˆ‰m pik keseri sordu ama gˆ…ney konuyu ˆ lem araˆ tˆ‰rmasˆ ‰ olarak algˆ‰ladˆ‰ eccone: tekrar sˆ¶ylˆ…yorumvuagraphta oynamak kolay degil hakkaten ovncylmz: kenandan ogrendigime gore kuzey kagitlari kapatip sinirli bir pas gecmis eccone: hele hee ilk se mustafaozk: Batˆ‰ oldukˆ§a alttan almadˆ‰ mˆ ‰ bu eli sizce? tokay1975: spi elden oynamasi 2defa sonrada 3ncude ufak tez: 2 iceri girecek arigun: ahmet isler iyi gidiyorken bulasmayayimzon ’da diye dusundu heralde, cok buyuk eli var xenya: but the ♣A is right, so perhaps it can be made.. 4 werge: No - he can play for tje 10 of coming down - and only loose 3 black tricks ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ - 148 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) xenya: in theory at least sharkey: they also had their share of the luck - but so do good teams ovncylmz: diger masada oyun bitti ovncylmz: az sonra oldukca kalabalik olacagiz ovncylmz: :) ovncylmz: senkronizasyon problemi oldu diyebiliriz ovncylmz: hmmm nezihk: kor as ele pik yere olmalˆ‰ydˆ‰ nezihk: 4 nt sormakta zarar yok, eˆ er aslrˆ‰ ters oynuyorsa serhat: 4s kotu degildi..hatta AK c ve c oynanˆ‰ rsa 4sp olur tez: 9 yok gerci ama yinede derdim tez: yanda 4lu ♣ oldugu icin..yoksa 5332 ile demezdim jaapfr: was it a low level cuebid 3 ??.. 7 eccone: yarˆ‰n VG 11:00 de baslˆ‰yacak riyilikci: Zafer ˆ engˆ…lere teˆ ekkˆ…rler geller: If Furuta gets out with a here EW have lots of work to do and not many entries.. Q ralfwil: best is a third round of ♠ shevek : So Japan Open vs China Women in tomorrow’s final roswolf: and now josj: what else, in view of dummy? roswolf: a spade is unlikely i think tokay1975: h sp yada cl cˆ‰ksa hic sorun yoktu vahaboglu: Hakan ˆ‰n 4 su ne idi ovncylmz : kenan 3karonun anlami ile ilgili konusmalar oldu mu?.. T eccone: oyuncularˆ‰n sistemleri hakkˆ‰nda bilgimiz olmadˆ‰gˆ‰ iciin her eliistenildigi yorumlayamˆ‰yoruz, eccone: ben vugraphzkg: ok solerim bu istegini ovunc nezihk: bu da oldu ˆ imdi tokay1975: bence buyuk risk dememek bi daha konusamassak zon kacirmis olma ihtimali var bu elde ceza ufak oldu 5imp ahollan1: Italian Blue Team had philosphy about auctions like this --- Double and LEAD TRUMP.. A shevek: that’ll be in 13 hours time athene : wasn’t it Greg Norman who, when congratulated by a spectator for a "lucky" long putt, said "it’s funny, the more i practice, the luckier i get" yo_yo: shame the times arent good for the UK b_eymen: q♣ nezihk: batˆ‰ ˆ¶nce pik oynarak kuzeyin antresini yˆ‰kmasˆ‰ gerekirdi © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 149 - ¨ ¨ ovncylmz: alttan? tokay1975: zabunogluna 2 imp MolvaM: batarsa 5 imp olacak ve bu maˆ§ iˆ§in 5 imp aˆ ˆ‰rˆ‰ bˆ…yˆ…k 1 rakam ahollan1: 1N alerted because MAY hold one or both 4-card majors..♣2 jaapfr: eccone: istenildigi gibi yakop: yerde 2 3 puan da cˆ‰kabilirdi werge: Not best for declarer..... 3 idblu: N played for a 9 trick hand and got it b_eymen: wd mustafaozk: underbid anlamˆ‰nda mustafaozk: :9 tez: 4 cok iyi kontrat..sanssiz MolvaM: 14 imp yˆ‰lankˆ‰rana geliyor bu elde wygbe1: mini splinter showing values for a raise to 3s, with stiff d.. 8 MolvaM: 12 implik bir el haline geldi bu el ovncylmz: ortagim 1nt dediginde ben de heyecanlanirim gibime geliyor eccone: heyecanlanˆ‰pp ne yapardˆ‰n? mustafaozk: :) tokay1975: otursa yapamazdi ovncylmz: :) yok anladim tabi ki de..♣A roswolf: well that settles it..♣5 ovncylmz: ama 4karoya 5karo diyebilirdim:) nezihk: evet onun iˆ§in 9 lu dedim b_eymen: 3 ikisinede fit var heralde..♣3 MolvaM: evet son maˆ§lar ˆ¶ncesi skorlarˆ‰ gˆ¶ rmek isteriz vahaboglu: Zafer Q ˆ‰ ˆ¶rtse iyi idi petergill: Ino, who won the World Senior Teams in Beijing last year, is in another gripping Final right now..♣Q ovncylmz: ya ben cidden anlamadim hicbir sey su anda ovncylmz: harika olur:) ralfwil : and now E can see that 10 must be 10xx xenya: he will make it now i think xenya: the actual distribution seems to be about the only one that allows to make, and he will figure it out ralfwil: and that is 10xx in xenya: yes xenya: but there seeems to be no other chance geller: but can’t Chen keep ♠ and ♣a and win the last two tricks? mcarroll: yes the 9 looked like an unlikely winner - can it be a beer card game? ralfwil: there is another too, that S has ♣ AQJx © ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) xenya: close your eyes, cash 4 ¨s and take a ♣ finesse geller: that’s right. no other chance. athene: i am told it was gary player not greg norman..but the same thing applies to bridge athene: if a team is playing really well they often look lucky athene: because they take maximum advantage of any good fortunate they get petergill: One board to go. chessmaste : Once the heart held declarer should probably have played a diamond - still she can smile now b_eymen: kuzeyin as girmesi laazˆ‰m tabi vulkan: G de K de tempoda 1er kez atladˆ‰lar tokay1975: :) Board NS: EW: o 4 c 4 16 © © this/total IMPs Quantum 113 Primabridge 77 W 5 650 W 5 650 16 4 ♠Q 3 4 Q4 2 8 Q10 9 7 2 7 ♣ A10 7 3 ♠J72 N ♠ A10 9 8 A8732 K J10 9 6 W E A86 4 S ♣K Q ♣8 6 2 ♠K 6 5 4 8 9 5 11 K J53 4 ♣J954 5 650 N: Nanev Open S: Mihov N E p 2♣ p 4 p W: Andonov W 1N 2 p © © ¨T,4,3,A ©6,5,A,4 §2,4,K,A ¨8,9,©T,¨K ª2,,, #1 N:: #3 E:: #5 E:: #7 W:: #9 W:: E: Popov S p p ¨6,2,©9,¨5 ©2,Q,K,¨J §3,6,J,Q §8,5,©3,§7 #2 W:: #4 W:: #6 N:: #8 E:: lestergold: 4h on for e/w..1N..p ndemirev: e-w would definately need that looking at the score so they might have as well tried..2♣ ..p..2 ..p lestergold: only 22 points combined but cant stop 11 tricks..4 ..p..p..p vugraphb1: another good sacrifice missed ndemirev: here? lestergold: only 2 off in 5 dims yes but had to get into auction vugraphb1: 5 is 500 on best defense lestergold: mind u e/w can bid and make 5h lestergold: i think this is likely to be flat i cant see the entry opportunity into the auction for n/s.. T.. 4.. 3.. A.. 6 roswolf: true mike.. 2.. 9.. 5.. 6.. 5.. A.. 4.. 2.. Q.. K lestergold: eliminates and guarantees only one spade lsoe wherever the honours lie.. J..♣2..♣ © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © © © © © © © ¨ - 150 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) ¨ ¨ © ¨ 4..♣K..♣A..♣3..♣6..♣J..♣Q.. 8.. 9.. T.. K..♣8..♣5.. 3..♣7..♠2 © Board NS: EW: o 4 c 4 16 © © this/total IMPs Primabridge 77 Quantum 113 W 5 650 W 5 650 16 4 ♠Q 3 4 Q4 2 8 Q10 9 7 2 7 ♣ A10 7 3 ♠J72 N ♠ A10 9 8 A8732 K J10 9 6 W E A86 4 S ♣K Q ♣8 6 2 ♠K 6 5 4 8 9 5 11 K J53 4 ♣J954 5 650 W: V.Aronov W 1 p © N: S.Skorchev Closed E: J.Stefanov S: B.Popov N E S p 4 p p ¨T,4,K,A ©J,ª5,©A,Q ¨8,2,©6,¨3 ªQ,,, #1 N:: #3 E:: #5 W:: #7 N:: © © § § #2 W:: 2,4,K,5 #4 W:: Q,3,2,4 #6 E:: 6,5,K,A yo_yo : i prefer the one "how do you avoid making bad plays?" athene: 6♠ here on very few hcp ahollan1: right fred -- they cover the meaning of 1M response, but not really 1 possibilities roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our very efficient operator, Hiroaki Miura. Great Job! Many thanks and our appreciation to the JCBL and Akito Omasa for allowing ... roswolf: us to broadcast from this event. Also thanks to NEC for their generous sponsorship. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Mark, Kath, and Jos for their wit and ... roswolf: perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes! petergill: Japan need a miracle. b_eymen: herkese iyi gˆ…nler vulkan: G daha hatalˆ‰, kuzey alˆ‰cˆ‰ kozla ˆ §akaya aˆ§ˆ‰lmazdˆ‰ vulkan: hoˆ ˆ§a kalˆ‰n b_eymen: hocam :) ¨ - 151 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) ovncylmz: ozellikle 2.doubleda kesin belliydi vahaboglu: masada ben olacaˆ ˆ‰m da hˆ‰zlˆ pikler ‰ oynanacak serhat: tesekkurler herkese.. fabsayc: is this 48 or 64 board match?..4 bg: S is saying your kidding me! fabsayc: needs to bid 8NT :) xenya: 46 shown as a push petergill: In the Worldl Championship last year, with one board to go China Women trailed 212 223. They gained 10 imps on the last board to lose by one b_eymen: 3 3♠ mecbur degilken demesi aynˆ ‰ sey MolvaM: bu ilginˆ§ 1 el riyilikci: 1/16 maˆ§larˆ‰ 20:30’da yakop: batsaydˆ‰ suˆ§lu hissedecekti kendini MolvaM: bu masadaki son bordu oynuyoruz vahaboglu: 4♣ belki as aorusu olurdu werge: Had 1 ♠ not promised 5-card?..p jaapfr: last board of this very fine session petergill: Had the vulnerability been different, they would have gained 12 imps to win by one vulkan: pardon son bord nafiz : son el, baˆ ta VG operatˆ¶rˆ…mˆ…ze, yorumculara ve herkese BBO adˆ‰na teˆ ekkˆ…r ederiz MolvaM: yarˆ‰final 2. devre saat 17:10da MolvaM: oyunculara ve yorumcularˆ‰mˆ‰za ve seyircilerimize ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…r ederiz vugraphzkg: diger tur 20:30 da basliyor tokay1975: tesekkurler shevek: 2 , right......p Walddk4: Last board of the match now. Many thanks again to our (unknown) operator in Yokohama. Fine job! othered1: These have been exciting matches, with lots of good play yo_yo: this will make up for it yo_yo: good money prizes ovncylmz: evet eccone: operatˆ¶rˆ…mˆ…z oralardamˆ‰ acep? MolvaM: gˆ…nay pas geˆ§iyor kontr diyen olursa kaˆ§arˆ‰m diye MolvaM: kuzeyin 3ntsine katˆ‰lˆ‰yor musunuz ovncylmz: tesekkurler herkese eccone: 7 7 NT 7 ama cok zorrr yakop: ikisi aynˆ‰ anda oynanamaz tokay1975: 3dia xlide 7li dia ile cakmasi cok pahaliya maloldu bati 8li tekle uste cakip ortagˆ ‰nˆ‰n 6lisine bi sp kupu daha verdi 500 yerine 1100 8 yerine 14 imp vugraphzkf: slm herkese izmirden sevgiler ovncylmz: 4sp denmesi taraftariyim genc ruhumla:) MolvaM: o pardon ters bakmˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰m ovncylmz: son boardumuz bu gece icin riyilikci: yarˆ‰n 11:00 de gˆ¶rˆ…ˆ mek ˆ…zere ovncylmz: bu masada 2-3 hafif enteresan board disinda pek bir sey olmadi yakop: ama kimse irfana niye 4 dedin diyemez problem oyuncunun kendisinde nezihk: herhalde as sordu ki 5 cl dedi arigun: normalde 3♣ epass demez cue bid ederdi tanidigim kadariyla, ondan sonra zon derlermi bilmem ama 5 ♣ sansli kayip sadece 5 imp olacakti MolvaM: son borda geldik MolvaM: son el MolvaM: bu masadaki son ele geldik. MolvaM: ˆ ampiyonayˆ‰ bir ˆ lem ile kapatˆ‰ yoruz MolvaM: ˆ lemler ˆ ampiyonasˆ‰ da diyebiliriz santyclz: And on the final board of the set, we have a 1 imp match...1 fabsayc: 13 top tricks, who will bid it bg: 7nt to finish up:)) xenya: he seems to have been playing for that yo_yo: answer " by experience" yo_yo: and how do you get experience? chessmaste: This is not it ovncylmz: diger masa sonucta daha etkili gozuktu, guzel macti, herkese tesekkurler MolvaM: bu devrenin son eline geldik. tˆ…m yarˆ ‰ˆ macˆ‰, yorumcu ve seyircilerimize teˆ ekkˆ …r ediyoruz MolvaM: tˆ…m yorumculara, oyunculara teˆ ekkˆ …rler MolvaM: deˆ erli gˆ¶rˆ…ˆ leri iˆ§in tˆ…m seyircilere ˆ¶zel teˆ ekkˆ…rler tez: tesekkurler..birazdan gorusuruz yo_yo: answer: from making bad plays"..p roswolf: indeed eccone: 11 19 5+ yakop : ˆ unu belirecem sadece sisteminiz ne olursa olsun cok kuvvetli ve kuvvetli elleri ayˆ‰ rmanˆ‰z lazˆ‰m murat: aˆ§ˆ‰k odadan geldik, selam herkese :) tweety1: slm:) exerdar: slm:) yakop: bence aliyle boyle bi sekans oynamaz MolvaM: tˆ…m yorumcularˆ‰mˆ‰za ve bu maˆ §ˆ‰ seyreden seyircilerimize ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…r ediyoruz © © © ¨ ¨ © - 152 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/ MolvaM: 3. devre 17.10 da fahir: ˆ zmirden bu kadar, 4-5 nisan istanbul 2li de gˆ¶rˆ…ˆ mek ˆ…zere santyclz: 32 I believe...p idblu: lots of inferences there not discussed when 1 bid santyclz: This is the last bd of this session. The next is sched to start in about 8 min 11 sec. It may be a little late. b_eymen: 3 dbl 3 3♠ MolvaM: yoksa kontr? eccone: 3 dbl MolvaM: pas? dadim: 3nt ovncylmz: ben katilmiyorum nezihk: 3 D ve pass olacak arigun: bence 3 diyecek nezihk: diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yorum, yoksa 3 nt mi riyilikci: Teˆ ekkˆ…rler Nezih Kubaˆ§, Mustafa Tokay, ˆ vˆ…nˆ§ Yˆ‰lmaz, Koray Gˆ…lcˆ… ve ˆ rfan Ilˆ ˆ‰n yakop: en agˆ‰r durum bu bence MolvaM: tˆ…m yorumcularˆ‰mˆ‰za, seyircilerimize ve bu yayˆ‰nˆ‰ saˆ layan tˆ…rkiye briˆ§ federasyonu na teˆ ekkˆ…r ediyoruz MolvaM: ve tabii ki BBO’ya :) MolvaM: ˆ¶nˆ…mˆ…zdeki diˆ er ˆ¶nemli turnuvalar ˆ‰n da vugraf yayˆ‰nlarˆ‰nˆ‰ bekliyoruz nezihk: zabunoˆ lu takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰ tebrik edelim, kalan ellerde fark kapanacak gibi deˆ il MolvaM: son devre saat 2030 da herkesi bekliyoruz ahollan1: Precision 2♣ something like 11-15 HCP, 6+♣ or 5♣ + 4card major [some pairs say ALWAYS 6+♣].. T shevek: lead directing b_eymen : bi sonraki seans ne zaman sevgili operatˆ¶r vugraphzkg: 17 10 da b_eymen: teˆ ekkˆ…rler vugraphzkg: diyarbakˆ‰r diski ve ˆ zmir beyaz arasˆ‰nda ovncylmz: burda merte yine bir seyler kaldi ovncylmz: uyandirir mi acaba? b_eymen: kesin ovncylmz: yemek oncesi boardlari:) b_eymen: uyandˆ‰rmalˆ‰ eccone: iyi kontrat eccone: herkese iyi akˆ amlar vugraphzkg: 2 aˆ§ar el 6+ kˆ¶r nezihk: 2 sp yaparak 7 puan kazanˆ‰r 30-29 burdur kazanˆ‰r ¨ ¨ © © © ¨ © - 153 - nezihk: karˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰k bir el , agale olabilir riyilikci: bu odanin son bordu, aˆ§ik odada 4 bord daha var, gelecek maˆ§ 14:30, tokay1975: musti neler dusunuyodur simdi exerdar: diˆ er masada anlaˆ mazlˆ‰k olmuˆ gibi declerasyonda tez: tesekkurler ogoksel: Emeˆ i geˆ§en herkese ’ellerine saˆ lˆ‰ k’:) idblu: are there late penalties for slow play?.. 4 ahollan1: Big ♣, Neg -- rest is natural idblu: last hand for this session....thanks all for joining...it is past the witching hour here and bed is looking very inviting... wygbe1: could have made an early spade play to make i think - 4s, 2c, 2h and a d jaapfr: especially for the ladies and their supporters ovncylmz: isparta 1.oldugu ve macta problem cikmadigi icin gereksiz agresifliklerden kacindi bence mustafaozk: evet teˆ ekkˆ…r ederiz ovncylmz : oyle desek iyidir, bu boardlarda bricten cok taktikler on plana cikiyor karar ellerinde mustafaozk: ben bir cˆ…mle daha ekliycem vugraphzkg: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ teams_event.php?event=172&stage=368 mustafaozk: Baˆ arˆ‰lar Isparta diyeceˆ im mˆ …sadenizle:) vugraphzkg: maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰ ve butler sˆ‰ ralamasˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz riyilikci: Yorumcularimiz Nezih Kubaˆ§ ve Mete Toppare’ye tesekkurler, nezihk: iyi akˆ amlar, iyi kandiller ovncylmz: evet hoscakalin:) tokay1975: bence buyuk erˆ¶r bu seviyede eccone: 3♣ oynanˆ‰yo 3 nt bordu riyilikci: Ege Palas’tan herkese merhaba yakop: bu elde naturel konusma kazanˆ‰yo yakop: ekinci iˆ§in 7 demek artˆ‰k ˆ§ok kolay eccone: 6 oynansa yetiyor eccone: 6 tabi yakop: 4pik riyilikci: 1/8 maˆ§larˆ‰ Ege Palas’ta 17:10’da ba ˆ lˆ‰yor, saha ve hava koˆ ullarˆ‰, internet baˆ lantˆ‰sˆ‰ mˆ…sait eccone: ˆ lem oynamak yetiyo wd burdur takˆ‰ mˆ‰ riyilikci: Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran-Zabunoˆ lu maˆ§ˆ‰ 2352 ilk devre skoru xenya: true Hans, i forgot.. K petergill: ref http://www.worldbridge.org/publications ¨ ¨ © ¨ Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) /WBNews/WBFNews09.pdf Feb 2009 edition for their 1 imp loss story petergill: Have to dbl to have a chance vulkan : tref ataˆ ˆ‰na 1 batar defans lˆ¶ve atlamazsa b_eymen: atagˆ‰na 90 vugraphzkg: diski takˆ‰mˆ‰ diyarbakˆ‰rˆ‰n en guclu takˆ‰mˆ‰ izmir beyazda ise Salvador ve Nafiz cifti var vulkan: evet atak Ddan ovncylmz: :) ovncylmz: Kuzey ortagina el yazmaya basladi mi:) yo_yo: well done again to the Chinese "sheilas".. A Walddk4: Also thanks to our excellent commentators: Nicoleta, William, Carl and Kath athene: west knows his trump holding is doomed othered1: This can really be punished, if west had allowed it. roswolf: north needs to axe vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 vugraphzkg: takˆ‰m kadrolarˆ‰ ve konvansyon kartlarˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz nezihk: toros ne dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor acaba nezihk: 4 as olsa yusuf 7 demezmiydi riyilikci: TBF sitesine girip KIS dˆ¶rtlˆ… sayfasini tiklarsaniz turnuva ile ilgili her seyi bulabilirsiniz. Maˆ§larin skor kagitlari, eller ve butler siralamasi iˆ§in ilgili linki tiklayiniz yakop: artˆ‰k grand ˆ ilem kolay eccone: 3!ˆ'c oynanˆ‰yop 3 nt bordu eccone: 3♣ yakop: tabi yaratmazssa:) eccone: Q ihtiyac var ne olursa olsun nezihk: ˆ imdi 2 sp fabsayc: not sure what is happening here, was 4 ace asking?.. 2 bg: I am old school 1nt-4clubs-4hearts-7nt good luck pard fabsayc: can’t bid that way on BBO bg: goes faster we are not paid by the hour brgpro: what time is the next session? fabsayc: it appears koneru mystified by 4♠ athene: normally with QJ tight you hope declarer plays restricted choice mcarroll: So looks like an exciting last session coming up petergill: China win. Congratulations - well done. roswolf : Congratulations to the winners Sun ¨ ¨ © ¨ © Ming, Wang Hongli, Wang Wenfei, Liu Yiqian, Yan Ru, Dong Yongling, nezihk: ˆ imdi iˆ deˆ iˆ ti arigun : 3 ya pass derse birsey olmaz diye dusundu tokay1975 : seti dusundu sanirim 7de cl pasi gecmedi bi kac el daha kˆ‰rˆ‰k dagilimlar vardi murat: 3pik 55 18+ kˆ‰sa tref olarak alert edildi emre tarafˆ‰ndan caitlin: with misfit in clubs........ 4 othered1: this = 4♣ santyclz: Thanks Fred. Thanks to our excellent vg oper! ovncylmz: kadirlinin durumu da kritik galbia yakop: yarattˆ‰:) tokay1975: buda bi ters gidiyo tez: 2 ya 2 demeyi tercih ederdim MolvaM: diˆ er masanˆ‰n daha 3-4 bordu var. bu taraf bitince diˆ er tarafa bekleriz tez: yorumculuga son devredede adayim..cok seyirci baskisi var gerci..sen yorumcu olma diye fabsayc: hey, 7NT redoubled is enough :).. K Walddk4: Finally, thanks to NEC for sponsoring the event, and our appreciation to the JCBL for bringing this prestigious tournament to BBO vugraph. Akito Omasa has been instrumental in ... Walddk4: setting up a fine show ahollan1: who would you charge for lateness? NS during auction or EW during play of unlucky 13? othered1: Was it equal until that board? santyclz: Thanks to all of you for joining us. riyilikci: kuˆ adasˆ‰ iˆ§in 5 yada 6 imp daha ovncylmz: 3♠ davet riyilikci: Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran, Varoˆ lu, Bodrum, J. Y ˆ‰lankˆ‰ran, ˆ zmir Bˆ B, Zabunoˆ lu ˆ§eyrek finalist MolvaM: saat 1710 da diˆ er final maˆ§ˆ‰ verilecek koksoy: 1 batarsa 1imp ile zabunoglu recepkoken: Tebrikler bˆ…yˆ…kˆ ehir vulkan: ˆ imdi +120.. 5 vulkan: iyi akˆ amlar herkese b_eymen: iyi aksamlar vulkan: slmlar ovncylmz: Herkese selamlar ovncylmz: Izmir’den Turkiye Kis Dortlu Finalleri yayimindayiz ovncylmz: demek gerektigini dusunuyorum ama katilmayarak tokay1975: belki o yuzden 3h demedi riyilikci: kˆ¶r ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰nca 6 yakop : son verilen 10 imp ufuk la tayfunun ¨ © ¨ © © © - 154 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) sistemi:) yakop: ˆ anssˆ‰zlˆ‰k gercekten exerdar: faruk atlamˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰r o zaman, yoksa 7 dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…rdˆ… hemen:) tez: ortakta sigan bile olsa oynar koz kalitesi tez: artik 4 u bulmalari zor arigun: operatorumuz sevgili Taner’e, degerli yorumcularimiza siz seyircilerimize bizlere katlandiginiz icin, TBF’ye bu imkani bize sundugu icin son olarakda tum BBO ilgililerine basta ... arigun: Roland Wald olarak cok tesekkur ediyoruz athene: but after 1nt she will never play you for the singleton.. J othered1: 32 boards in quarter and semifinals, the 64 in finals...♠5 caitlin: next session starts very soon after this board ahollan1: confirmed Ed’s claim -- 2-16 board sets in QF & SF othered1: That was a statement, not a claim :) caitlin: Thanks to Ed Joe Martin Al organizers of NEC and of course Roland and BBO for following this event on vugraph idblu : I was thinking that...that hand was an exception...so much to gain or lose ahollan1: we were equal or a little ahead of other room until then xenya: 2 is definitely better here MolvaM: yani zabunoˆ lu yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran maˆ§ˆ ‰ mcarroll: Hard to see 9 tricks - despite the extra on lead?.. A ovncylmz: :) MolvaM: 4 pik varsa iyi ama 4 pik yoksa 3ntyi ka ˆ§ˆ‰rˆ‰yorsunuz kontr diyerek MolvaM: ben 3nt ye katˆ‰lˆ‰yorum ovncylmz: almanlar bunlarla uzun sure dusunup kontur atiyorlar:) MolvaM: sonra da mahkemeye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…yorlar ama :) ovncylmz: QXX olunca da dusunup dusunup 3nt diyorlar:) ovncylmz: :) eccone: karonun Kx olmasˆ‰ hos degil tokay1975: birde valentino riyilikci: bu henˆ…z resmileˆ memiˆ sonuˆ§lar, tokay1975: burak var o takˆ‰mda ceyrek finale kalmamasi imkansiz eccone: :) eccone: ˆ¶hm eccone: deme ˆ¶le seyler tweety1: Gazzilli oynuyorlardˆ‰ sanˆ‰rˆ‰m © © © ¨ © - 155 - Emre ile Kepekˆ§i vahaboglu: 4 =kickback olabilir MolvaM: bir kopukluk oldu hoˆ geldiniz vahaboglu: Nezihin dediˆ i gibi caitlin: and always thanks to specs for comments, input.. Q josj: goes -2 for 500 and 11 imps - 1 imp left :) josj: if axed roswolf : Commiserations to the runners up Kazuo Furuta, Chen Dawei, Masayuki Ino, Tadashi Imakura, Tadashi Teramoto, Masaaki Takayama ovncylmz: Yarin gorusmek uzere, herkese iyi geceler riyilikci: 6 imp riyilikci: ayrˆ‰ntˆ‰lˆ‰ bilgi www.tbricfed.org.tr daha sonra devamˆ‰nˆ‰ okuyu tˆ‰klayˆ‰n exerdar: kˆ¶r saˆ lanmˆ‰yor trefe doˆ ru karar vermesi lazˆ‰m murat: junior bu tur tutuk oynadˆ‰.. umarˆ‰m ˆ §abuk silkelenirler yakop: trefe dogru karar verse ne olur:) yakop: erdi yapamaz buba dedi bence de:) 0 green: 4-0 break exerdar: koz 4-0 problmlimiˆ nezihk: 4 yapacak tez: du bakali nolcek:) ahollan1: and great silent contributors PO Sundelin and Walter Johnson!..♣Q caitlin: indeed:) fabsayc: next :( josj: ruff ovncylmz: koz atagi gerekirdi sanki arigun: bu devrenin son eli, izleyicilerimize, yorumcularimiza ve operatorumuze cok tesekkur ediyoruz... riyilikci: Next Match 16:10 CET tokay1975: ozgur 5h xlide dia asi aldiginda h empas yerine cl cevirip 3 batmˆ‰s wd idblu: it will be over when we get up tomorrow...may the best team prevail. It’s been very exciting bridge :)..♣3 jaapfr: tx jim vlad martin and operator for fine job and tx specs for watching and next session in .... minutes tez : desteksiz onoru atak etmek ya tek yada singleton bizim oralarda athene: thanks all, fun match here..♣2 athene: the Chinese ladies are looking tough to beat idblu: I would give benefit of the doubt MolvaM: son maˆ§lar yemek arasˆ‰ndan sonra ¨ © ¨ © Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) 20:30da baˆ layacak eccone: ama 3 nt ankette dbl dan daha fazla not alabilir ve alˆ‰r tuppermet: 14 sayˆ‰ ekˆ i ye nezihk: iyi seyirler Walddk4 : We will be back in Yokohama in exactly 13 hours. Welcome back then..♣4.. 8 ahollan1: i’m told "it took W over 10 mins to play 1 card" yo_yo: well done Chinese ladies! ovncylmz: 10lu kup iyi miydi? eccone: ama ben dbl derdim tokay1975: tesekkurler arigun: bundan sonraki devre 17:10 da baslayacak MolvaM: tebrikler zabunoˆ lu takˆ‰mˆ‰ tokay1975: 29 imp icin bende ole dusunuyorum yeterince el var ve frekans biraz yukselirse cok 29lar havada ucusur kapanmaz ir fark diil tokay1975: ama zorlunun son 400metresi muthistir bunuda unutmuyorum tokay1975: cok kaliteli final oluyor bence elbette elestiri yapiliyor ama genel seviye cok cok iyi tokay1975: neden finalde olmadigimi simdi daha iyi anladim tokay1975: :) MolvaM: operatˆ¶rˆ…mˆ…ze ve yorumcularˆ‰m ˆ‰za ve seyircilerimize ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…r ediyoruz.. 2 serhat : yarˆ‰na segman kaliyormu? yoksa bugun yarˆ‰ finaller bitecekmi? MolvaM: yarˆ‰n final fabsayc: this looks like a kelsey hand.. 6 ovncylmz: tesekkurler herkese:) eccone: Teˆ ekkˆ…rler herkese MolvaM: 241 kiˆ i karda kˆ‰ˆ ta gelip bizi mutlu ettiniz :) ovncylmz: :)ty bboooo ovncylmz: bu sene grup maclarinin verilmesi cok guzel oldu cidden ovncylmz: sadece finaller yetmiyordu fahir: 4 yˆ‰ldˆ‰r bu ˆ ampiyonaya ev sahipliˆ i yapan ˆ zmir Bˆ…yˆ…kˆ ehir Belediyesi ve Baˆ kan Aziz Kocaoˆ luna federasyon olarak teˆ ekkˆ …r ediyoruz akgun: iyi geceler herkese.. 3 deniz_t: iyi geceler ˆ¶vˆ…nˆ§ vugraphzkg : yorumculara ve seyircilere cok tessekurler 20 30 da sorusmek uzere byeeeee vugraphzkg: gorusmek vugraphzkg: :) koksoy: yaparsa 6 imp eccone: evet..♣6 ¨ ¨ © ¨ riyilikci: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=169:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi-sonuclari&catid=50: 2008-2009-sezonu&Itemid=99 vahaboglu: Kickback=RKCB varyantˆ‰, belli olan kozun bir ˆ…stˆ… ile 4 seviyesinde as soruyor MolvaM: ve 3.lˆ…k idblu: but it went quickly after that..♣5 santyclz: Next session is in about 1.5 hrs. I hope you enjoy it. xenya: but 1N also makes, especially on this defence xenya: with a few overtricks xenya: thanks everyone mcarroll: which they now need as a big lead has evaporated and they trail by 10 imps xenya: note that s are still intact... ogoksel: Yorumlarˆ‰mˆ‰za katlanan tˆ…m seyircilerimize ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…r.Son devrede gˆ¶r ˆ…ˆ mek ˆ…zere xenya: well a finesse might do the job?..♣K mcarroll: Yes the spots have grown koksoy: tebrikler zabunoglu MolvaM: gollˆ… 1 maˆ§ izledik koksoy: herkese bize katlandˆ‰gˆ‰nˆ‰z icin tesekkˆ…rler MolvaM: diˆ er maˆ§tan bilgi alabilirsek memnun oluruz tez: herkese tesekkurler yo_yo: a formidable team indeed..♣A MolvaM: son bordumuz arigun: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/ MolvaM: artˆ‰k sen daha bilge bir briˆ§ˆ§isin tokay :) ahollan1: busted!..♠Q ahollan1: which reminds me of a quote from none other than THE Hideous Hog -- you’re going to play the wrong card -- so play it quickly deniz_t: ssana da iyi geceler reha arkadaˆ ˆ‰m vugraphzkg: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=125:kidoertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 deniz_t: vede herkese iyi geceler gˆ¶rˆ…ˆ mek ˆ …zre:) ozgull: izmir ˆ§ok ˆ¶nde sharkey: yes - they could have beat anybody today MolvaM: 1 sonraki maˆ§ saat 17:10 da ¨ © - 156 - Bulgarian National Teams Championship(Final - Segment 3_5) - 157 -
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