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Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) BTN Board 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 BTN Djarum N J BOJOH E OCTAVIAN S L GONTHA W A HAITANI Contract By M D N-S E-W 2♠ E 1 50 3♣ W 2 100 3♣ N 3 110 4♥ N 4 620 5♥x N 3 800 4♥ S 5 450 4♥ N 3 300 3♥ S 2 100 3N W 6 690 2♥ E 1 100 4♠x E 4 590 3N W 4 430 1N W 1 90 3♥x S 4 800 1♠ E 4 170 4♠ E 5 650 IMPs This segment Penalty Carryover total -1- vs BTN 35 0 119 154 Djarum Djarum BTN N Anthony S E Franky K S Kamto W Piskanto Contract By M D N-S E-W 2♥ N 1 50 2N W 2 120 3Nx N 4 800 4♥ N 4 620 2♠ S 2 110 4♥ N 5 450 4♥ N 3 300 3♥ N 1 50 6♦ E 6 1370 2♦ W 1 100 4♠x E 4 590 3N W 3 400 4♠ W 1 100 3♥x S 4 800 3♠ E 4 170 4♠ E 5 650 IMPs 3 6 14 - 14 - 2 12 - 1 - 5 35 22 Djarum 22 0 140 162 References: BridgeBase online. Edited by M.Sugino Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) Board NS: EW: o 2♠ c 2 1 © 1 E N this/total IMPs BTN 3 122 Djarum 140 50 50 -1 -1 ♠A Q 7 J 97652 ♣K J 6 2 ♠K J 4 3 N ♠10 9 8 2 A94 K10 7 W E K84 A10 S ♣9 7 3 ♣Q 8 5 4 ♠65 Q865 32 QJ3 ♣ A10 90 W: A HAITANI W X p 6 6 7 8 7 5 7 5 3 5 N: J BOJOH Open E: OCTAVIAN S: L GONTHA N E S 1 p 1 2♠ p 2♣ p ¨ ¨ © § § ¨ § © § ª ¨ ª © © ª ª © © ¨ § #1 S:: Q,4,2,A #2 E:: T,5,3,Q #3 N:: J,K,3,4 #4 E:: 2,6,J,A #5 N:: 6,5,T,3 #6 S:: 2,9, 7, 7 #7 N:: 2,4,A,7 #8 S:: 5,A, 5, T #9 W:: K,6,T,3 #10 W:: 8,7, 9, J #11 E:: 8, 6, 9,K #12 N:: J,Q, 8, 4 #13 W:: K, 9, 8, Q ozgull: herkese merhaba paksoy: merkese selamlar arigun: Kapali oda turkce yorumlarla baslamistir, yorumcularimiz Levent Ozgul, Emre Paksoy ve Salvador Assael arigun: 2009 Turkiye Sampiyonalari - Antalya vugraph yayini bayan maclari ile basliyor, Kapalli oda Turkce yorum, acik oda Ingilizce Yorumlarla izleyicilere aciktir arigun: Bayan maclari 2 grupta 14’er, toplam 28 takim ile basladi ozgull: iki grupta eleme maˆ§larˆ‰ oynannacak ozgull: ilk 4 takˆ‰m yarˆ‰ final gruplarˆ‰nda 4erli iki grup olarak oynayacaklar ozgull: yarˆ‰ final gruplarˆ‰nˆ‰n birincileri final maˆ§ˆ‰ oynayacak tez: selam:) ª © ¨ © ª ¨ © ª arigun: tekrar merhaba arigun: Gunaydin herekese tez: selamlar:) MolvaM: hoˆ geldiniz vugraphzpv: herkese selamlar MolvaM: vugraf operatˆ¶rˆ…mˆ…z Kenan :) selamlar MolvaM: Tezcan ˆ en bu maˆ§ta yorumlarˆ‰ ile bize ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰k tutacak ovncylmz: selam herkese ovncylmz: Turkiye Bric Sampiyonalari Acik Takimlar ikinci maclar ovncylmz: Antalyadayiz:) vugraphzpv: gˆ…naydˆ‰n herkese vugraphzpv: herkese merhaba arigun: herkese merhaba vugraphzpv: gˆ…nde bir kere bayan takˆ‰mlarˆ ‰nˆ‰n maˆ§larˆ‰nˆ‰ vermeye ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ acaˆ ˆ ‰z vugraphzpv: gˆ…nˆ… son maˆ§ˆ‰nˆ‰ yayˆ‰ nlayacaˆ ˆ‰z vugraphzpv: tekrar herkese merhaba vugraphzpv: tˆ…naydˆ‰n herkese vugraphzpv: turnuva 1. ve 2.lerinin arasˆ‰ndaki maˆ§ˆ‰ yayˆ‰nlˆ‰yoruz Walddk4: selamlar ovncylmz: herkese iyi gunler antalyadan:) nafiz: meraba Roland, ˆ vˆ…nˆ§ ovncylmz: haha selam mr.roland:) ovncylmz: i see that you learn turkish:) vugraphzpv: herkese merhaba Walddk4 : Thats the only word I know, and merhaba alichengiz: Merhaba herkese, Gˆ…neˆ li Antalya ’dan selamlar:) Nihal matracˆ‰ Dilek Kundakˆ§ˆ ‰ ˆ zmirli oyuncular, Vera Adut ve Lale Gˆ…mr ˆ…kˆ§ˆ…oˆ lu, istanbullu, her iki ˆ§iftte uzun yˆ ‰llardˆ‰r birlikte ... alichengiz: oynuyorlar ovncylmz: =) ovncylmz : zorlu bir mac olacak, takimlarin durumlari hakkinda guncellenmis son bilgiler yok ama... ovncylmz: elimizde olan sabah sonundaki durumu soyleyelim alichengiz: merhaba herkese :) alichengiz: Eymen Bedir ve Hakan Gˆ¶ksu Milli takˆ‰m oyuncularˆ‰mˆ‰z alichengiz: ˆ indeki olimpiyatlarda takˆ‰mˆ‰m ˆ‰zda oynadˆ‰lar alichengiz: Rokos Kasapoˆ lu ve Mehmet Barˆ‰ ˆ ˆ stanbul oyuncularˆ‰ -2- Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) alichengiz: Eymen Hakan artificiel bir sistem alichengiz: Mehmet - Rokos ise 2/1 tabanlˆ‰ arigun: merhabalar MolvaM: hoˆ geldiniz MolvaM: bu maˆ§ˆ‰mˆ‰z aˆ§ˆ‰k seride lider naturale yakˆ‰n bir sistem alichengiz: daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰m oldukˆ§a ilginˆ§, ew 4 e gelip batabilir alichengiz: Eymen tarafˆ‰ndan oynanˆ‰rsa daha iyi alichengiz: 3 nt ˆ anslˆ‰ alichengiz: Gˆ…neˆ li Antalya’dan Merhaba herkese :) fahir: Antalya’dan herkese merhaba alichengiz: Salvador Assael, Nafiz Zorlu, ˆ zmirli oyuncular, defalarca milli ve ˆ ampiyonluklarˆ‰ var, Nevzat aydoˆ du Burdur’da yaˆ ˆ‰yor, ˆ ampiyonluklarˆ‰ var, Murat Anter, ˆ stanbul’lu, Dˆ…nya ... alichengiz: ˆ ampiyonu genˆ§lerimizden fahir: ilk 2 sˆ‰rada yer almaya devam eden 2 tak ˆ‰mˆ‰n maˆ§ˆ‰ ile gˆ…ne baˆ lˆ‰yoruz alichengiz: Salvo - Nafiz, Zayˆ‰ NT, ve tranfer sistem oynuyorlar alichengiz: Merhaba Baˆ kan :) fahir: merhaba alichengiz: Cardingler, Salvolar, UDCA, yani, kˆ …ˆ§ˆ…k apel ters sayˆ‰ oynuyor, ataklarˆ‰ Rusinow fahir: bugˆ…n bayanlar 2. eteaba baˆ ladˆ‰lar, maˆ§lar 20 bord olduˆ undan programa uymuyor. bu yˆ…zden bugˆ…n bayan maˆ§ˆ‰ yayˆ‰ nlayamˆ‰yoruz alichengiz: NS asˆ‰l oynuyor bilmiyorum, ˆ z kan sˆ¶yleyebilirse sevinirim :) alichengiz: Merhaba Herkese :) emre kaya: herkese selamlar..iyi seyirler:) alichengiz: Cengiz Arˆ‰gˆ…n - Nuri Cengiz, Eski milli takˆ‰m oyuncularˆ‰mˆ‰z vugraphzpv: herkese merhaba alichengiz: Eymen Bedir Ve Hakan Gˆ¶ksu Milli takˆ‰mˆ‰mˆ‰zˆ‰n ˆ u andaki oyuncularˆ‰ alichengiz: Merhaba Emre, Kenan :) vugraphzpv: herkese merhaba alichengiz: pas pas pas 1nt? vugraphzpv: son durumlarˆ‰ tekrar vereyim vugraphzpv: kolbastˆ‰ 1. vugraphzpv: peksen2. vugraphzpv: izmir belediye beyaz3. alichengiz: karolar iyi daˆ ˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ pik pasˆ‰ geˆ§iyor, 3nt ye gelirlerse ˆ anslˆ‰ bir ˆ ekilde oluyor vugraphzpv: matrix ise 5. vugraphzpv: a gurubu sonuˆ§larˆ‰ bunlar durumda bulunan kolbastˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰ ile vugraphzpv: herkese merhaba MolvaM: avrupa ˆ ampiyonu senyˆ¶r milli takˆ‰ mˆ‰mˆ‰z arasˆ‰nda MolvaM: gerˆ§i gˆ…neyde oturan turgay sesyˆ‰ lmaz henˆ…z senyˆ¶rlˆ…k mertebesine ulaˆ amad ˆ‰ ama olsun alichengiz: Hava kapanmˆ‰ˆ antalya’da eminim aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰r vugraphzpv: herkese merhaba vugraphzpv: birazdan son durumlarˆ‰ yazacaˆ ˆ ‰m alichengiz: Murat Anter Genˆ§ milli oyuncumuz, Dˆ…nya ˆ ampiyonluˆ u var, Nevzat Aydoˆ du, Defalarca ˆ ampiyon olmuˆ bir oyuncu, Tugbars Bozkurt, Mersinde yaˆ ˆ‰yor, Tˆ‰p doktoru alichengiz: Berk Baˆ aran Genˆ§ yeteneklerimizden vugraphzpv: Kolbastˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰ 216 puanla finale kaldˆ‰ ve 16 18 puan alarak 250 puanla 1. vugraphzpv: 2. Noname1 takˆ‰mˆ‰ B gurubundan finale kaldˆ‰ ve 242 puanˆ‰ var MolvaM: son devreye girerken aˆ§ˆ‰k ve bayanlardaki son durumu alsak ne iyi olurdu alichengiz: EW Murat Anter, Dˆ…nay ˆ ampyonu genˆ§milli oyuncumuz, Dr. Nevzat Aydoˆ du, defalarca ˆ ampiyon oyuncumuz MolvaM: sevgili operatˆ¶rˆ…mˆ…z kenan ˆ imdi bize bilgileri iletecek MolvaM: birazcˆ‰k sabˆ‰r lˆ…tfen sonuˆ§lar geliyor vugraphzpv: herkese merhaba..1 nafiz: E. Sen kim ya ? :)..p arigun : yorumcularimiz, Tezcan Sen, Nafiz Pakdemir vugraphzpv: herkese gˆ…naydˆ‰n tez: 5♣ sadece 4 batiyor ovncylmz: Avrupa Sampiyonu Turkiye Senyor Milli Takim ile vugraphzpv: tekrar herkese merhaba alichengiz: KG 5♣ barajˆ‰ yapmaˆ a kalkarsa antre sorunlarˆ‰ var alichengiz: koz bozuk trajedi olabilir alichengiz: Merhaba ˆ zkan, kolay gelsin :) alichengiz: NS Hakan Pekˆ en ve Osman ˆ zcan ˆ stanbul’lu deˆ erli oyuncularˆ‰mˆ‰z..1 nafiz: ben yorumcu deˆ ilim hocam.. arigun: as yorumcu :) vugraphzpv: emine ˆ en oyuncu profilinde tam isimler yazˆ‰lˆ‰ oynuyorlar © -3- ¨ ¨ © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) tez : guneyin eliyle cevap verenler olacaktir oynadiklari sisteme gore arigun: ayni anda 2 masayi birden izlemek icin; http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ her masa icin internet tarayicisindan bir pencere acmaniz gerekiyor vugraphzpv: turnuva programˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz vugraphzpv: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=49:2009tuerkye-brc-ampyonalari-talyada-25-nsan-3mayis-2009&catid=50:2008-2009-sezonu& Itemid=99 tez: selamlar:) ovncylmz: bu el guzel bir ortaklik anlasmasi eli:) bakalim neler olacak MolvaM: o da gˆ¶nˆ…llerin senyˆ¶rˆ… arigun: gelecek vaadeden senyor adaylarimizdan :) vugraphzpv: ilk maˆ§larˆ‰n sonuˆ§larˆ‰nˆ‰ yazayˆ‰m tez: bazilari 1♣ e 2 ♠ i 3/5 puan oynuyor..2♣ arigun: turnuva ile ilgili detay bilgilere (acik ve bayan) http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/ link’inden ulasabilirsiniz alichengiz : Hakan Pekˆ en Ozman ˆ zcan ve Burak Baˆ kan ˆ stanbullu oyuncular alichengiz: Kuranaoˆ lu, Ankara’lˆ‰ hobakan: iyi akˆ amlar vugraphzpv: gˆ…nˆ…n sonunda a gurubundan 6 b gurubundan 2 takˆ‰m yarˆ‰n finallere kalacak ergur: herkese slm..2♠ alichengiz: . ovncylmz: 2nt diyebilir guney su anda "minorler" anlaminda alichengiz: Diˆ er masadaki NS ˆ§ift, Bˆ…lent Aslan ve Mustafa Akgˆ…l’de milli oyuncularˆ‰ mˆ‰z, defalarca ˆ ampiyonlukalarˆ‰ var her dˆ¶ rt ˆ§iftin vugraphzpv: herkese merhaba MolvaM: tˆ…rkiye takˆ‰mlar ˆ ampiyonalarˆ‰ nda son 14 board alichengiz : Diˆ er Masa, Levent ˆ zgˆ…l ve Enver Kˆ¶ksoy, Milli takˆ‰m oyuncularˆ‰mˆ‰ z, Ankara’da yaˆ ˆ‰yorlar vugraphzpv: Kolbastˆ‰ 273 vugraphzpv: Peksen 255 vugraphzpv: Matrix 252.13 alichengiz: Fikret Aydoˆ du ve Haldun vahaboˆ lu Defalarca ˆ ampiyon olan oyuncularˆ‰mˆ‰z, vugraphzpv: Senyˆ¶r Milli 251 vugraphzpv: Noname1 251 vugraphzpv: Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran 245.08 vugraphzpv: Midyat Bel. 240 vugraphzpv: Zabunoˆ lu 218 MolvaM: bu durumda kolbastˆ‰ bu maˆ§ˆ‰ 23- 7 kaybetse bile tˆ…rkiye ˆ ampiyonu olacak vugraphzpv : sˆ‰ralamasˆ‰yla verdim son durumu MolvaM: eˆ er yanlˆ‰ˆ hesaplamadˆ‰ya MolvaM: hesaplkamadˆ‰ysam MolvaM: Kandemir acaba 1 trefl kontruna pas geˆ §sem nasˆ‰l olur diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…rken ˆ¶nˆ… ne 3♣ geldi..p tez: 1 puan eksigi var guneyin tez: 4 rahatca yapilabildigi icin 3♣ cok karli degil..2 batip 300 verecekler ovncylmz : Romanya’da temmuzda ulkemizi temsil edicek Genc Milli Takim’dan 4oyuncunun yer aldigi takim oynuyor ergur: slm herkese ovncylmz: herkese merhaba, eymen bedir-hakan goksu aksam 25 le birakmislardi alichengiz: Merhaba ..p alichengiz: ns 4 lˆ… major le aˆ§ˆ‰yor, kanepe sistem, yanda daha uzun renk olabilir alichengiz: Kolay gelsin Kenan, Merhaba :) vugraphzpv: Kolbasti Peksen maˆ§ˆ‰ 16 14 bitti vugraphzpv: Senyˆ¶r Milli Midyat Bel. 17 13 bitti vugraphzpv: Matrix Zabunoglu maˆ§ˆ‰25 4 bitti ergur: slmm..p alichengiz: Diˆ er Masada EW ˆ§ift, Haldun ˆ ˆ‰ vgˆ‰ner ve Mustafa Baˆ ar Karakuˆ , yine genˆ§ oyuncular, Ns ˆ§ift ˆ se, Fikret Adoˆ du Samsun Emniyet mˆ…dˆ…r yardˆ‰mcˆ‰sˆ‰, ˆ§ok ˆ ampiyonluˆ u var, Haldun ... alichengiz: Vahaboˆ lu Ankaralˆ‰ ve yine ˆ ampiyonluklarˆ‰ var vugraphzpv: 3. Peksen takˆ‰mˆ‰ 239 puanˆ‰ var tez : 10 oynanmali..oynanirsa kuzey onor girmemeli.. Q kabexnuf: selamlar herkese arigun: defans ♣ kupu alabilirse batiracak ergur: 3nt = vugraphzpv: vugraph yayˆ‰nˆ‰nda bize yardˆ ‰mcˆ‰ olan Cengiz Arˆ‰gˆ…n ˆ imdi masada oynuyor ovncylmz: 12.maclar sonunda ege A grubu 1.si alichengiz: 4♠ iyi bir ihale ovncylmz: kaldiklari yerden devam edecekler mi acaba? © © ¨ -4- Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) alichengiz: Ufufk Koˆ§ ve Tayfun ˆ zbey Ankara ’lˆ‰lar, onlarˆ‰nda ˆ ampiyonluklarˆ‰ ve milli olmuˆ luklarˆ‰ var vugraphzpv: Noname Yilankˆ‰ran maˆ§ˆ‰ 22 8 bitti arigun: turgay harici key card sordu vugraphzpv: kendisine baˆ arˆ‰lar diliyoruz.. 4 alichengiz: Merhaba ˆ vˆ…nˆ§ ovncylmz : dogu bati cok hizli kompetisyon yapiyor her zamanki gibi MolvaM: gˆ…naydˆ‰nlar.. 2 MolvaM: ataˆ§ 1 konuˆ ma daha yaparmˆ‰? MolvaM: elinde 3 defans varken yapmamalˆ‰ ovncylmz: inci ayakkabi ise 2.si ovncylmz: ve son maclar zannedersem MolvaM: selamlar gˆ…naydˆ‰nlar herkese nafiz: irem kˆ‰zˆ‰mˆ‰z ˆ in’de oynayan takˆ ‰mda da yer almˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰ .. A MolvaM: ama belli mi olur kabexnuf: bence cok guzel bir secim vugraph iˆ§ in, teˆ ekkˆ…rler TBF vugraphzpv: slm Koray hoˆ geldin ovncylmz: Genc takim 2-3hafta once Eskisehir’ de secildi arigun: simdi ♣A oynamasi lazim alichengiz: . alichengiz: " 1♠ kontur deseydi diˆ er 2 renk olacaktˆ‰ henryb: GM all vulkan: gˆ…naydˆ‰n herkese tez: atagi sayisiyla yapmamak iyi bir aliskanlik degil..♠T arigun: dekleran yerden K koymasa muhtemelen J kazanacak, Ferda nin ♣ oynamasi zor olablirdi alichengiz: Teˆ ekkˆ…rler nafiz bey :) nafiz: hoˆ geldiniz alichengiz: yˆ…ksek.. fahir: ˆ lem araˆ tˆ‰rmasˆ‰ pahalˆ‰ya patlayabilir vugraphzpv: maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰ ve butler sˆ‰ ralamasˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz vugraphzpv: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=195: tuerkye-bayan-doertlue-sonuclari&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 alichengiz : diˆ er Masada Enver Kˆ¶ksoy ve Levent ˆ zgˆ…l, Ankaralˆ‰, Milli takˆ‰m oyuncularˆ‰mˆ‰z, Birol Us ve Aydˆ‰n Uysal ˆ stanbul’lu MolvaM: bugˆ…n tˆ…rkiye briˆ§ ˆ ampiyonalarˆ ‰nda aˆ§ˆ‰k ve bayan dˆ¶rtlˆ…lerde son gˆ…n alichengiz: Noname1 takˆ‰mˆ‰ bu turnuvanˆ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ -5- ¨ ‰n 2. sˆ…rprizini yaptˆ‰, ˆ§ok baˆ arlˆ‰ gidiyorlar, hayli genˆ§ bir kadro vugraphzpv: Matrix takˆ‰mˆ‰ 238.13 puanla 4. alichengiz: 3nt de sorun yok, ♠ ler ve karolar ak ˆ‰llˆ‰ vugraphzpv: Senyˆ¶r Milli 237 puanla 5. vugraphzpv: Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran 226.08 puanla 6. vugraphzpv: Midyat Bel 226 puanla7. vugraphzpv: Zabunoˆ lu 205 puanla8. arigun: kapali oda kolay bir board ile basladi, 3nt iyi kontrat 9 veya 10 love olacak..♠5 vugraphzpv: son durumlar bˆ¶yle vugraphzpv: son maˆ§larˆ‰n kimler arasˆ‰nda olduˆ unu yazacaˆ ˆ‰m birazdan MolvaM: nur kumkale ortaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰n 3 deklaresini forsing olarak algˆ‰ladˆ‰ herhalde..♠3 alichengiz: alˆ‰p koz oynayacak bˆ…yˆ…k olas ˆ‰lˆ‰kla alichengiz: koz veya ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰rsa 5 yapˆ ‰lˆ‰r, aksi halde -1 MolvaM: diˆ er taraftan pekˆ en takˆ‰mˆ‰ 23 alabilmek iˆ§in biraz alˆ‰ˆ veriˆ li boardlar gelmesini umacak bu maˆ§ta MolvaM: hmmm..♠Q tez: vugrafta olmanin dayanilmaz hafifligi:) MolvaM: bari 5 trefl aˆ§saydˆ‰ MolvaM: gˆ…ney aˆ§ˆ‰sˆ‰ndan daha acˆ‰sˆ‰ z olurdu vugraphzpv: genˆ§ milli adaylarˆ‰mˆ‰z bize yardˆ‰mcˆ‰ oacak bu maˆ§ta ˆ¶vˆ…nˆ§ ve koray teˆ ekkˆ…r ederiz kendilerine Walddk4: Any of the players here in the team that did so well in Beijing? fahir: herkese Merhaba alichengiz: ˆ imdi pike gider trefl pasˆ‰ atarsa 8 lˆ¶veye gelir, karolar ˆ§ekilir herhalde ♣ Q ile alˆ ‰nca vugraphzpv: oyuncu dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor MolvaM: Kandemir ile ˆ u an rˆ¶portaj yapmak ilginˆ§ olabilirdi.. J vugraphzpv: sANIRIM ORADA OLMAYI BEN ˆ M KADAR ONLARDA ˆ STEDˆ :) ovncylmz: merhaba=) ovncylmz: muhammet irfana kor onoru veriyor ( dogal olarak) ve sleme gidiyorlar.. K alichengiz: aktif eller alichengiz: evet :) vugraphzpv: bayanlarda 3.lˆ…k maˆ§larˆ‰ bitti ve Mersin takˆ‰mˆ‰ 3. oldu vugraphzpv: herkese tekrar merhaba.. 3 alichengiz: -2 ¨ ¨ © © © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) ovncylmz: XX KXXX AKQXXX A olsa slem © son derece iyi gibi.. 4 alichengiz: -2 olabilir yi defansa ergur: ♣8 alichengiz: iletiˆ imlerini bozmaya ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ yor alichengiz: karolarˆ‰ oynamalarˆ‰nˆ‰ zorlaˆ t ˆ‰rmak iˆ§in arigun: ♠ atak edilecemeyecek, dekleran 2 yere cakip 1 tane As’a atabilir ancak el yer baglantisi sorunu var MolvaM: haldun vahaboˆ lu yeri gˆ¶rdˆ…ˆ ˆ… anda zil takˆ‰p oynamaya baˆ lamˆ‰ˆ mˆ‰dˆ ‰r acaba? arigun : expass’i tecih ederse 1 tane de ♠ veriyor MolvaM: bir de koz dam sorunu var ama o ˆ¶ nemli deˆ il MolvaM: kimin sorunu yok ki bu devirde? vugraphzpv: bundan sonra son maˆ§lar oynanacak alichengiz: Teˆ eˆ kkˆ…rler Kenan :) alichengiz: Teˆ ekkˆ…rler Kenan olacaktˆ‰ :) tez: ilk el oldugu icin 2 deste var diye dusunuyordur.. ♠2 vugraphzpv: hayati Ergˆ…r bize yorumlarˆ‰yla yardˆ‰mcˆ‰ olacak kendisine teˆ ekkˆ…r ederiz alichengiz : 5 !e kontur atak istemediˆ ini belirtiyor olabilir veya psiˆ ik :)..♠6 alichengiz: sitede son durum yok mu Kenan? alichengiz: typo hatalarˆ‰ iˆ§in kusura bakmayˆ ‰n MolvaM: tebrikler mersinli bayanlara alichengiz: Tebrikler Mersin nafiz: no Roland as far as i know..♠J alichengiz: koz alˆ‰p kozla ˆ§ˆ‰kacak alichengiz: Q koysun diye 8 :) MolvaM : haldun vahaboˆ lu keyifle yandaki boardlarˆ‰ dˆ…zenliyormuˆ arigun: ♣ elden ezemez ♣ leri 2 tur koz’dan once cekemiyor arigun: Tezcan Sen hosgeldin..♠A tez: u.tarhanˆ‰n 8 liye sahip cˆ‰kmasˆ‰ gerekiyor Walddk4: We have some in the open room vugraphzpv: sanˆ‰rˆ‰m girilmedi ama hobakan : Kuranoˆ lu ortaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰n 4 mˆ… yoksa 5 tane mi kˆ¶rden ˆ§ˆ‰ktˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ ˆ§ˆ¶ zemedi vugraphzpv: birazdan ben yazacaˆ ˆ‰m durumlar ˆ‰ MolvaM: aslˆ‰nda forsing deklare yapmak istese idi f.ulus 4. renk forsingi yapabilirdi. yani bu © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ durumda 3 nun davet olmasˆ‰ makul. ve Nurpas geˆ§ebilirdi..♣6 ovncylmz: su anda da empasa zannedersem vugraphzpv: bu ataˆ a yapacak kartˆ‰ alichengiz: kˆ¶r devam ederse 5 yine oluyor emre kaya: -3 kˆ¶r atagina ergur: daha iyi..♣5 ovncylmz: selamlar herkese alichengiz: pik iˆ§in tabii ki:) MolvaM: ilk vugraf yayˆ‰nˆ‰mˆ‰zˆ‰ bayanlar finalinden yapˆ‰yoruz paksoy : 9 lˆ¶veye garanti iˆ§in A R tref tref oynamasˆ‰ lazˆ‰mdˆ‰..♣T ozgull: 11 lˆ¶ve oldu tez: selam:) tez: ˆ u ♣ 4 kesilir mi?..♣3 ovncylmz: masada irfan disinda kimse irfanda xxxx kor oldugunu bilmiyor tabi:) ovncylmz: faik abi de su an gordu:) vugraphzpv: 4♠ 1 1 6♣ ovncylmz: operatorumuz de bu kartlari iyi yapar:) alichengiz: +1 oluyor artˆ‰k ergur: hastadaydˆ‰m ˆ imdi geldim:).. 2 alichengiz: ele ˆ§ekerse +2 ozgull: slm.. 9 paksoy: 5-1 karoya tehlikeli olabilirdi bu oyun MolvaM: acaba kuzey, Kandemir’e 3♣ kontrunun anlamˆ‰nˆ‰ sordu mu kabexnuf: merhabalar ergur: slmm alichengiz: 4 +1 yapˆ‰labiliyor MolvaM: fakat 3NT olmaya doˆ ru gidiyor gibi. yani bu durumda benim bˆ…tˆ…n sˆ¶ylediklerim boˆ :)..♠7 MolvaM: 14 bordluk maˆ§larda 23-7 kazanmak iˆ §in kaˆ§ IMP fark gerekiyor kenan? kabexnuf: kor oynamazsa yapar.. 7 tez: 2♠ acilsaydi oyun zordu alichengiz: Hoˆ geldiniz :) tez: u bilemeyebilirdi..♣2 nafiz: hoˆ geldin Koray..♣4 alichengiz: yerden alˆ‰p karo pasˆ‰ yapˆ‰p karo ˆ§aksa daha iyiydi kabexnuf: kenan sen yorulmadˆ‰n mˆ‰ hala?.. ♣A..♣7 hobakan: smith ˆ ansˆ‰ olmadˆ‰ tam olarak alichengiz: Geˆ§miˆ olsun 10 oynamak masa gerceginde cok ise tez : yarar.. 5 arigun: bayan maclari 28 takim 2 grupta lig usulu oynaniyor, ilk 4 ler 2 grupta yari final, oynayacak.. A.. 5.. T ¨ © © © © © © © © © ¨ © -6- Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) vugraphzpv : kandemir alert etti ama kuzey sormadˆ‰ MolvaM: bu masadaki 4 oyuncu da tˆ…rkiye yi birˆ§ok kez milli maˆ§larda temsil etmiˆ sporcular ˆ‰mˆ‰z arigun: yari final grubundan birinciler final, 2. ˆ er 3-4 maci yapacak.. K nafiz: Kenan’ˆ‰n iˆ i gerˆ§ekten zor.. 6 kabexnuf: sonuclara bakˆ‰yorum da sabahki, genˆ§ler patlama yapmˆ‰ˆ . :).. T vugraphzpv: tabii biraz yorgunluk var ama buna deˆ iyor izleyicileri gˆ¶rˆ…nce alichengiz: Merhaba ˆ zgˆ…r :) alichengiz: :) merhaba.. 3 alichengiz: tam oluyor vugraphzpv: bi ara verildi ˆ imdi .. 8.. 7..♠9 alichengiz: ˆ zmir nasˆ‰l? :).. J MolvaM: evet. rakibin nasolsa bir bilmediˆ i vardˆ ‰r diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nmekte yarar var..♣8.. 6..♣ 9..♣K kabexnuf: simdi hem kor lovesi aciga cikmadi, hem de yere antre kaldi artˆ‰k piklere ulasabiliyor MolvaM : 6 gˆ…ndˆ…r devam etmekte olan bayanlar dˆ¶rtlˆ… takˆ‰mlar ˆ ampiyonasˆ‰ bu final maˆ§ˆ‰ ile sonuˆ§lanacak MolvaM: ve tˆ…rkiye 2009 bayan dˆ¶rtlˆ… takˆ ‰mlar ˆ ampiyon u belirlenmiˆ olacak tez: ceza olacak hali yokya diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nmˆ…ˆ tˆ…r..♣J ovncylmz: wd MolvaM: toplam 21 puanlˆ‰k bir 3nt yapmak tak ˆ‰m maˆ§ˆ‰nda gayet iyi skor bence..♣Q.. 8 hobakan: o yˆ…zden hepimizin genelde yaptˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ gibi ’’baˆ ka bir veri yoksa ortaˆ ˆ‰n ˆ§ˆ‰kt ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ renge devam et!’’ prensibini uyguladˆ‰.:) ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © Board NS: EW: o 2♠ c 2 1 © 1 E N -1 -1 this/total IMPs Djarum 140 BTN 3 122 50 50 ♠A Q 7 J 97652 ♣K J 6 2 ♠K J 4 3 N ♠10 9 8 2 A94 K10 7 W E K84 A10 S ♣9 7 3 ♣Q 8 5 4 ♠65 Q865 32 QJ3 ♣ A10 90 W: Piskanto W p p N: Anthony S Closed S: Kamto N E 1N p 2 p © ªT,5,4,Q ª7,2,©2,ªJ §5,T,3,2 ¨3,K,5,T §8,©3,§9,J §Q,©6,, #1 E:: #3 N:: #5 E:: #7 S:: #9 E:: #11 E:: 5 7 5 3 5 E: Franky K S 2 p ¨ ªA,9,6,3 ¨Q,4,2,A §A,7,6,4 ¨8,6,©7,¨J ©5,4,J,K #2 N:: #4 S:: #6 S:: #8 W:: #10 S:: jallerton : Welcome back to our coverage of England v Scotland. Scotland 8 imps ahead at the half way stage..♠4..♠K.. 9..♠8.. Q capercliff: welcome back folks! viren169: Hi jcomyn : morning all - now we have another completely untried partnership in the Ireland EW sybarra: hello all jcomyn: lets hope the boards are as lively as this morning jcomyn: lots and lots of imps ralfwil: I have played golf this morning, so let´·s see lots of imps jcomyn: this aint right anyway jcomyn: oh yes it is sorry thegarve: Slainte all lestergold: hi Mike from England here mariner1: hi all! and Mike ¨ -7- 6 6 7 8 7 © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) lestergold: hi Rob! Walddk4 : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** mariner1: 6♠ will make with the lucky Kx ♠ in LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 93, SCOTLAND 91, ENGLAND 78, CBAI 71, IRELAND 67, WALES 46 **** Walddk4: Hello Mike and Rob lestergold: hi Roland finished ur tourney then? Walddk4: what tourney? that was last Sunday mariner1: well we have a shootour between N. Ireland and Scotland....... CBAI closed it up mariner1: on last 4 boards of the last session and put Scotland in 2nd place lestergold: oh Hedy thought u were running one this sunday mariner1: hi Roland mariner1: shootout mariner1: 2 VP’s is not a huge lead though viren169: It will be interesting to see how West copes with 2 from South..1N..p sybarra: 4 ♠ will not be great success sybarra: or maybe..... jcomyn: Hi all - Hi Shirley John Comyn here sybarra: hello John welcome jcomyn: dfidnt recognise the new caps on the NI team santyclz: Hi folks, hi Martin. sybarra: can make a lot here mariner1 : well we start with a makeable yet unbiddable slam imho lestergold: part score battle here between hearts for e/w clubs for n/s henryb: a slam. should not be hard to bid: the problem, I think, will be to avoid seven on power..2 jcomyn: h partial ..p thegarve: scores update please operator jcomyn: hi all again..2 ralfwil: Hi all jcomyn: big match this - both well in contention diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 76, SCOTLAND 71, ENGLAND 61, IRELAND 59, CBAI 58, WALES 31 **** jallerton: Your commentators are Ian Crorie, Cliff Gillis, Sarah Teshome and myself...p viren169: Much easier route to 4 now viren169: assuming 2♣ was majs Walddk7: Morning John, Peter and Gad jcomyn: an ouch already jcomyn: 19-20 NT onbviously thegarve: and on cue... sybarra: its pretty magic to bid the slam lestergold: 2h the likely limit for E/W mariner1: win this battle idc: NS are playing 15-17 NT, 5 card majors, 3 © ¨ © © pocket © card minors..p..p jcomyn: good contract but... jcomyn: wish I were you lovely day here and me watching bridge mariner1: 6N makes in S sybarra: and 6 nt off with the ♣ k off mariner1: someone has to bid though :) jallerton: England have brought in a new pair. Catherine Seale (West ) is playing her first Lady Milne..♠T pkl: Why 2 if 2♣ was majors? I believe 2♣ must be something else. pkl: Morning Roland viren169: Looks like they all have something to say here... sybarra: I had just said not a success, but could it be done? jcomyn: this will test N in a big way jcomyn: hi ralf John Comyn here viren169: Hearts coming into the picture now..... ♠5 mariner1: a ♣ lead kills 6N in N lestergold: hm im not sure about that jcomyn: no sinecure..♠4 sybarra: likely lead not sybarra: *now mariner1: reasonable spot and making 12 mariner1: well could make 12 sybarra: probably only 11 mariner1: declarer is worrying about 9th trick,,,, if she attacks ♠ that worry disappears pkl: After a club to the ace and switch to diamonds, declarer might well fail...♠Q jcomyn: morning Roland pkl: But 5♣ is a very cheap save viren169: North is likely to switch to the J of ♠ ralfwil: hi again John and John lestergold: how do u lose more than 2 dims a club and a heart played in 23d? tihas: hi all..♠A lestergold: 3d mariner1: well them coming in so late means they might have not competed at the 3 level lestergold: 2 ruffs i see mariner1: 3 has play lestergold: if they do not fiund spade ruff toobad: good evening all..♠9 © ¨ ¨ © -8- Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) mariner1: no dbl so no trouble lestergold: cthis hand should certainly have been competed to the three level lestergold: 2h is too easy a ride sybarra: oops ..♠6 jcomyn: C switch santyclz: Only 13 tops, but 15 with the ♣ finesse. mariner1: 11 now sybarra: now down ..♠3 capercliff: 11h is not so easy..♠7 jcomyn: naw lestergold: south should venture 3d she knows partner has fivwe jcomyn: well that solves the defence..♠2 mariner1: why not pitch a there? sybarra: I think she wants 3 ht tricks sybarra: or thought she did sybarra: so easy for us to see, not easy at the table tihas: so this is the last match in the championship, and 4 teams are rather close at the end of round robin.. 2 jcomyn: lively start anyway viren169: yes... -2 for a (probable) par result! toobad: yeah lol jcomyn: jeepers NS playing this..♠J jcomyn: the 2H overcall should warn her.. Q ralfwil: I have a wish to play golf in Ireland rather soon mdgraham: Monte Carlo had a good win in the last round... 4 Walddk2: Welcome to Aivar Tihane from Estonia capercliff: 1 chick: even 1 isn’t :).. 2 ralfwil: and at least 8 tricks jcomyn: now N is in a spot of bother capercliff: lol.. A capercliff: should be ok though capercliff: cant give up 3 trump tricks jcomyn: any idea where jcomyn: NSE or W mariner1: now in danger of going off lestergold: as she has already passed and limited her hand there is no danger of misunderstanding.. ♣5 mariner1: now loser can disappear though mariner1: needs to stay away from the ♣ plays and there goes another ♠..♣T ralfwil: I think the ♠9 mislead N..♣3 thegarve: So this match looks buried unless Wales perform the Lazarus coup ketoprak : hi all...welcome back to Senayan © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ -9- Stadium Jakarta... jcomyn: so is W with that play..♣2 pkl: Perhaps only down one, viren?..♣A diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 93, SCOTLAND 91, ENGLAND 78, CBAI 71, IRELAND 67, WALES 46 **** tihas: un summary, monte carlo has a 13.5 VP lead over Druva, so for Druva to have a chance for the gold they must win at least 22-8..♣7 mdgraham: ♣K is (almost certainly) marked, so draw trumps and play a club towards the queen may be a problem if trumps 3-1 and clubs 5-1 viren169: Looks like all the players are keen to make their mark early in the match!..♣6 jcomyn: surely this is a CRTFH hand ralfwil: no idea at all jcomyn: no forgot the H10 pkl: Pender hoping for more clubs at East. This was not to be..♣4 sybarra: except that...short in hts and not much esle to ruff tihas: then there is another match, where Roheline Lammas plays Ekspromt, and the former has basically the same number of VP as Druva.. 3 mariner1: N more likely to have K so to A , A♣ and ruff ♣ and cash Q♠ jcomyn : one down could be a good start for wales.. K sybarra: *else diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 89, N-IRELAND 89, ENGLAND 78, CBAI 73, IRELAND 71, WALES 46 **** mariner1: sometimes the spots you have are more important than the number you mariner1: have,,,,,, she had 7 great ♠ and only 8 mediocre ♣ idc: not sure I liked that 2nd round of .. 5 jcomyn: true I suppose chick: too late now.. T santyclz: This hand is not going to help. toobad: afternoon all.. 8 mariner1: well this works as well henryb : drawing trumps does not look right, although not fatal on this layout.. 6 jallerton: W has control now chick: nor I, no reason not to repeat the finesse missing that many trumps capercliff: down now sybarra: now sorry she pitched the ♠’s jcomyn: if N play Portrush or Royal Co Down ; © © © ¨ ©¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) W Rosses Point; S Killarney or Tralee and E European club.. 7.. J idc: seemed to stake everything on 3-3 hearts when there was no rush to commit yourself..♣8 jcomyn: ruff hgh and then low.. 3..♣9 jcomyn: hi John mariner1: unless she hooks the idc: hmmm, even 3-3 might not have been enough..♣J capercliff: ♠ was best after first ralfwil: Hi John! lestergold: well.. 5 mariner1: so making 2.. 4 mariner1: could lose an imp or more there jcomyn: now d guess.. J.. K..♣Q sybarra: think we might be making this one now .. 6 sybarra: think she might just take her 9 tricks now ketoprak: -2 mdgraham: two rounds ok sybarra: nicely done © ¨ © © © © © © © © © Board NS: EW: o 3♣ c 2N 2 2 W -2 W 2 this/total IMPs BTN 6 128 Djarum 140 100 120 ♠ K J10 8 6 5 3 7 A54 ♣K9 ♠A 9 4 N ♠Q 2 Q10 9 K865 W E Q976 J10 3 S ♣ Q10 3 ♣A J 7 5 ♠7 A J 432 K82 ♣8 6 4 2 400 W: A HAITANI W ¨ 1 2♣ p 4 8 5 5 5 9 5 7 7 7 N: J BOJOH Open E: OCTAVIAN S: L GONTHA N E S p p X p 1♠ 2♠ 3♣ p p ªT,Q,7,4 ª8,2,§2,ª9 ¨2,7,5,T §5,6,T,K ©A,9,7,6 #1 N:: #3 N:: #5 S:: #7 E:: #9 S:: ¨J,8,6,A ¨K,9,4,3 §A,4,3,9 ªK,©5,§8,ªA ©2,,, #2 E:: #4 S:: #6 E:: #8 N:: #10 S:: arigun: turnuva ile ilgili detayli bilgilere www.tbricfed.org.tr adresinden ulasabilirsiniz tez: kuzey el aldiginda alici kozunu cekmeliydi..rakip ona dursun efendi deyip disarda birakacakti MolvaM: bakalˆ‰m skor tabelasˆ‰na nasˆ‰l yansˆ‰yacak ovncylmz: irfan-muhammet kirmizida 2 multi, 2h/sp: 5-5 oynuyorlar ovncylmz: 2 de kor pik olabiliyor 5-5 MolvaM: selamlar vugraphzpv: gˆ…naydˆ‰n koray hoˆ geldin arigun: kenan, 2 alert edildimi, michael’s renk belli mi oynuyorlar yani ♠♣ ? arigun: oyle ise batirmak cok zor olmayacakti... vugraphzpv: ♠ +minˆ¶r diye alert edildi arigun: anladim, minor belli degil yani vugraphzpv: evet ¨ © © - 10 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) tez: simdi biliyorki en azˆ‰ndan inanˆ‰yorki © empas gecmeyecek ovncylmz: sert bir baslangic alichengiz: salvo nafiz, 3. den kˆ‰rmˆ‰zˆ‰ya yeˆ il zon durumu dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda 11-14 NT aˆ§ˆ‰ yorlar hobakan: iyi valla. zemin mˆ…sait..:) alichengiz: 4♠ veya 3nt EW tarafˆ‰ndan hobakan: fena bir prensip deˆ ildir. defansta iˆ e yaramasa bile psikoljik olarak iyidir. MolvaM: board sonrasˆ‰ kavga edilirken anlarˆ ‰z durumu bizler de alichengiz: durmadan deˆ iˆ iyor lˆ¶ve durumu oynanan kartlara gˆ¶re vugraphzpv: son maˆ§larˆ‰ Kolbastˆ‰ Peksen alichengiz: 3nt NS vugraphzpv: Matrix Senyˆ¶r Milli alichengiz: rahat el, alˆ‰ˆ veriˆ zor bu elde vugraphzpv: Noname Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran alichengiz: Gˆ…neyden oynanmasˆ‰ A10 den ˆ¶tˆ…rˆ… daha iyi MolvaM: evet KOlbastˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰ bu tˆ…r ellerin gelmesini tercih edecektir tˆ…m maˆ§ boyunca vugraphzpv: Midyat Bel. Zabunoˆ lu takˆ‰mlarˆ ‰ arasˆ‰n da yapˆ‰lˆ‰yor MolvaM: diˆ er masada nasˆ‰l gidecek bakalˆ‰ m..p MolvaM: bu gˆ…nˆ…n son maˆ§larˆ‰na hoˆ geldiniz vugraphzpv: evet u-26 b gurubu 1.si ˆ uanda alichengiz: evet 5♣ barajˆ‰ trajedi olur derken haklˆ‰ymˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰m :) alichengiz: o durumda 15-17 alichengiz: 4 pik yapˆ‰labildiˆ i iˆ§in, diˆ er masada 4♠’e gelinirse 4 sayˆ‰ Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran’ a alichengiz: pardon Midyata’a alichengiz: :) sevgili gˆ…zel izmir’imin kˆ‰ ymetini bil MolvaM: bu esnada aˆ§ˆ‰k dˆ¶rtlˆ… takˆ‰mlar ˆ ampiyonasˆ‰nda da final turlarˆ‰ baˆ ladˆ‰..p ovncylmz: beyazda 2karo zayif demislerdi ama bilmiyorum tam..1 arigun: yeni gelenler icin, ayni anda 2 masayi birden seyretmek istiyorsaniz, http://www.bbotv.com /vugraph/ kabexnuf: 20 yaˆ altˆ‰ da hemen takipte alichengiz: NS 4♠ kˆ¶rler ˆ§ekilirse, aksi halde +1 ergur: kuzey 3nt oynar muhtemelen alichengiz: 2 renkli ellerle oynamak isteriz ve © ¨ - 11 - fakat iyi fit yoksa trajedi olur..1♠ MolvaM: kavga olmuyor mu yani masada? kenan? tez: ♣ ve ♠ empaslari gecmedigi icin defans 2 hazir ele sahip.. MolvaM: evet vugraf operatˆ¶rˆ…mˆ…z de ˆ imdi teyid etti. 3 forsing olarak algˆ‰lanmˆ‰ˆ Nur tarafˆ‰ndan arigun: turnuva ile ilgili detay bilgilere (acik ve bayan) http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/ link’inden ulasabilirsiniz ergur: kuzey e 4 alichengiz: . ovncylmz: 2♠ ya da 3♠ denebilir alichengiz : rakip oyun aˆ§ˆ‰nca ˆ lemden umudunu kesip 4 ♠ diyebilir tez: serap carfi 5 diyecek sanirim.uygun zon durumunda..p paksoy: bu daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰ma 6 tref ve kˆ¶r oluyor tez: ♣ empas geciyor ozur...o halde 6♣ oluyor sas2nt: onceden aˆ§mayˆ‰p sonra 3 ne demek bu zon durumunda MolvaM: evet birˆ§ok seyircimiz soruyor Ataˆ§ doˆ ru mu yaptˆ‰ yani diye ovncylmz: diger masa 3nt de kalmis 1.boardda kabexnuf: selamlar MolvaM: son 8 takˆ‰m tˆ…rkiye aˆ§ˆ‰k 4lˆ… takˆ‰mlar ˆ ampiyonluˆ u iˆ§in yrˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰yorlar sas2nt: elimi gˆ¶rmedim mi demek..2♣ sas2nt: rakip 6♣ yapˆ‰yor MolvaM: hayˆ‰r yapmadˆ‰ ergur: 1sp ye 2h daha iyi olurdu pikonlu: . alichengiz: Vera ve Lale, Milli oyuncularˆ‰mˆ ‰z, ˆ ampiyonluklarˆ‰ var, partnerlikleri eski sayˆ‰lˆ‰r alichengiz : kˆ‰rmˆ‰zˆ‰ Rualar kˆ¶tˆ… yerlerde, 3nt ninveya hehangi bir zonun ˆ ansˆ‰ yok alichengiz: 1 e dbl 4 lˆ… ♠ demek genellikle hobakan: Antalya’ya bile gitmedik.:) alichengiz: eli kaybet ortaˆ ˆ‰ kaybetme psikolojisi begse: mrb ozgull: salvo hemen sinirlenme daha iki bord oldu :)..2♠ tez: 3♣ diyerek elini anlattˆ‰ zaten tez: 1♠ acislari yakinda 6 puandan baslayacak:) tez: selamlar..iyi aksamlar:) alichengiz: Eymen Bedir, Midyat’ta yaˆ ˆ‰yor arigun: bakalim kolbasti 6 diyecek mi vugraphzpv: biraz konuˆ malar geˆ§ti tabi:) alichengiz: veya dbl atˆ‰p cue bid vs ˆ¶yle gider 4♠’e ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) alichengiz: evet +1 ergur: baˆ kanˆ‰m hg paksoy: senin bilmen lazˆ‰m Salvo :)..3♣ tez : 3 acacak elim bile yok yada 4lu major ¨ oldugu icin zayif acmadim demek sas2nt: halbuki 3 aˆ§lsaydˆ‰ rakip 4 majorler deyip 4 oynanacaktˆ‰ arigun: ♠ atagi ? , guney tarafindan 6 ve 6♣ olur ama guneyin ♣ i kapmasi mumkun dgil arigun: herkese merhaba vugraphzpv: ilk tur pas geˆ§ildi vugraphzpv: ilk board MolvaM: hani Uˆ ur Dˆ…ndar bazan mikrofonu uzatˆ‰p sorar: beyefendi bu yaptˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰z ˆ§ ok yanlˆ‰ˆ deˆ il mi acaba diye arigun: 31c forcing degilse biraz az oldu... ergur: hg :) alichengiz: Merhaba tez :) vugraphzpv: iyi akˆ amlar hoˆ geldiniz relrikas: herkese slm MolvaM: grandˆ leme battˆ‰ktan sonra kavga edilmesini ˆ¶zellikle teˆ vik etmekte yarar var bence arigun: haldun simdi cok rahat diyecek MolvaM: briˆ§ seyirci sporu malum alichengiz : 3. kˆ¶rˆ… alamˆ‰yorlar, tersten oynanmayacaˆ ˆ‰na gˆ¶re vugraphzpv: 2♠ 5 5 el demek..p tez: asˆ‰nˆ‰ cekmeyen yasˆ‰nˆ‰ ceker alichengiz: Dilek Ve Nihal ˆ Zmirli oyuncular, eski ortaklar ve arkadaˆ lar :) alichengiz: 2-3 daha gˆ…venli bir ihaleydi fahir: Selam Mehmet hoˆ geldin alichengiz: Merhaba mehmet :) alichengiz: Salvolarˆ‰ mˆ‰ tutacaksˆ‰n yine :) alichengiz: arkadaˆ larˆ‰ ile bir takˆ‰m kurmuˆ © ¨ ¨ © ¨ hobakan: evet.. elin yenisi hemen gelir ama ortaˆ ˆ‰n yenisi kolay bulunmuyor.:) alichengiz: alˆ‰p ♠ asˆ‰nˆ‰ ˆ§ˆ‰karˆ‰yor arigun: bence 3 acilsaydi guneyin 4 suna ¨ ¨ ¨ Serap 5 diyecekti..p tez : ilk ♠ e yerden vale koymasi gerekiyor eminenin arigun: ozgur goksel hosgeldin arigun: cogu cift burada 4. renkten sonraki fitleri forcing oynuyor nafiz : Tˆ…rkiye brici adˆ‰na moral verici haberler tez: ♠ asˆ‰nˆ‰ cekmezse badem olacak ovncylmz: dogu bati 3nt oynayacak gibi arigun : hem ♠ 5 tane hem ortaginin splinter renginde puan yok alichengiz : ˆ imdi ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰nca fazla yapmak biraz zor arigun: north tarafindan oynanan slamler batiyor, ♠ atak edilirse tabii ki....p vugraphzpv: ♠ ataˆ ˆ‰ 9. lˆ¶ve olacak sanˆ‰rˆ ‰m arigun: evet bir yanlis anlasma oldu galiba, belki Ela puanini yanlis saydi... alichengiz: diˆ er taraftan 2 kˆ¶r yapˆ‰yorduk bile ˆ§ˆ‰ksa alichengiz: baˆ ka vermez artˆ‰k..♠T tez: normal olarak lerin uzerine oynayacak ve batacak..♠Q fahir: Mehmet, Hayati ve Ali Cengi 3 yorumcumuz hoˆ geldiniz alichengiz: diˆ er oyuncular ˆ stanbul aˆ ˆ‰rlˆ‰ klˆ‰, Bˆ…lent Aslan, izmir’de yaˆ ˆ‰or alichengiz: koz ataˆ ˆ‰ yapˆ‰labilirse 4 ’ˆ…n ˆ ansˆ‰ yok hobakan : herkese merhabalar, hepiniz hoˆ geldiniz tez: salvo 3 acilsaydi belkide 6 ya suruklenip yapacaklardi:)..♠7 paksoy: kˆ¶r batˆ‰yor da 6 tref batmˆ‰yor ˆ§ˆ …nkˆ… vale pik geliyor MolvaM: bu arada vugraf operatˆ¶rˆ…mˆ…zˆ…n adˆ‰ Kenan. kendisine teˆ ekkˆ…r ediyoruz :) tez: onu reha muhtar daha guzel yapar alichengiz: ♣ durumu bilinirse ♠ ataˆ ˆ‰ndan sonra 3nt kolay ve fakat zor vugraphzpv: hoˆ geldiniz syn ˆ zgˆ…r BAKAN MolvaM: gˆ…nˆ…n ilerleyen saatlerinde aˆ§ˆ‰k dˆ¶rtlˆ…lerden de vugraf yayˆ‰nlarˆ‰mˆ‰z olacak alichengiz: son durum az ˆ¶nce ilan edildi, biraz daha seyirci gelince bir daha ilan ederiz vugraphzpv : bende ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…r ederim murat abi..♠4 MolvaM: soner iyi bir atak yaptˆ‰ alichengiz: ♣ yi bilemezse karo antresi yˆ‰kˆ‰ lmadan ♠ler saˆ lanˆ‰yor MolvaM: Nevzat’ˆ‰n pikler ˆ§ekilirken bˆ…tˆ… n trefllerini tutmasˆ‰ gerek tez: yerin uzun rengine ulasmasina engel olmaya calisiyor.. J tez: acˆ‰ var mˆ‰ acˆ‰.. 8 MolvaM : ama pikler 4-3 olduˆ u iˆ§in oyun batmayacak alichengiz: blokaj var pikte alichengiz: Salvo yu almayacaktˆ‰ 2 tur, antre sorunu var © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 12 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) alichengiz: almayacaktˆ‰r alichengiz: Gˆ…neyde 3. bir ‰rˆ‰m §in, ‰ydˆ‰ © olmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ ¨ karo’dan 2 bile verse sorun yok arigun: 1♠ acisindan sonra da soylenme ihtimali fazla ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ sadece 5© az olurdu heralde tez : © rua cekip yere dogru oynamak daha guvenliydi..3¨ ile araya girende tek onore karsi paksoy: kˆ¶r vermez oluyor.. 6 arigun: 3 -4 -5 dan sonra north’un isi zor, tedbir sas2nt: bence rejin el ile 4♣ demek lazˆ‰mdˆ‰ sas2nt: o zaman 6 ♣ oynanabilinirdi tez: dam vale yada 10ludan biri gelirse dogudan © © yere dogru oynayip 6 koymak gerekiyordu.dogu alabiliyorsa renk partaj demektir sas2nt: 6 de oluyor MolvaM: bu sefer toplam 25 puan var ama 9 eli toplamak ˆ§ok da kolay deˆ il gibi MolvaM: pikler ve karolar bozuk arigun: turnava ile ilgili detay bilgilere, mac sonuclari, butler vs. asagidaki linkten ulasabilirsiniz arigun: 5♣ harici butun zonlar batiyor kabexnuf: sanˆ‰rˆ‰m 15.30 daki maclarda ikisi mac yaptˆ‰. Sonucu biliyor musun kenan? alichengiz: -3 500 iyi baraj 4 imp .. A alichengiz: sˆ‰kˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰yorbir miktar Doˆ u vugraphzpv: sanˆ‰rˆ‰m karoyu doˆ ru oynayacak.. ♠8 fahir: herkese Merhaba alichengiz: mERHABA bAˆ KAN :) nafiz: meraba baˆ kan vugraphzpv: maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰ ve butler sˆ‰ ralamasˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz alichengiz: gˆ…zel Organizasyon iˆ§in teˆ ekkˆ …rler vugraphzpv: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=195: tuerkye-bayan-doertlue-sonuclari&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 hobakan: hoˆ gˆ¶rdˆ…k sevgili operatˆ¶rˆ…mˆ… z. alichengiz: ler saˆ lanamˆ‰yor vugraphzpv: turnuva ile ilgili bilgilere bu linkten ulaˆ abilirsiniz..♠2 vugraphzpv: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/ vugraphzpv: koray sanˆ‰rˆ‰m 25 5 bitti maˆ§ larˆ‰ vugraphzpv: u21 ile u26 arasˆ‰ndaki maˆ§ kabexnuf: sagol ergur: slm alichengiz: ˆ imdi alˆ‰p, Karo oynayayacak sanˆ ¨ © - 13 - alichengiz: ama ˆ¶nce ♠ asˆ‰nˆ‰ ˆ§ˆ‰karmalˆ alichengiz: yine de sorun yok vugraphzpv: gˆ…nˆ…n son maˆ§ˆ‰na girilirken son durumlarˆ‰ tekrar vereyim hobakan: lˆ…tfen:) alichengiz: Teˆ ekkˆ…rler Kenan vugraphzpv: kolbastˆ‰ 201 puanla 1. vugraphzpv: peksen 195 puanla 2. vugraphzpv: izmir belediye beyaz 193 puanla 3. vugraphzpv: midyat bel. 190 puanla4. vugraphzpv: matrix 183.13 puanla 5. paksoy: tref yerine karo oynasa ilginˆ§ olabilirdi.. ♣2 arigun: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams_ event.php?event=184&stage=397 fahir: Bayan 4lˆ…de son maˆ§lara girdik, Ege A grubunda 1. ˆ nci Ayakkabˆ‰ 2. sˆ‰rada ergur: her ataga 6 oluyor MolvaM: aslˆ‰nda senyˆ¶r milli line up bugˆ…n ilginˆ§ arigun: ♣ partaj olunca (2-2) 5♣ sorunsuz oldu.. ♠9 alichengiz: alˆ‰nˆ‰p koz oynanˆ‰rsa yine batar ovncylmz: 5tur kor cektikten sonra.. K.. 9 vugraphzpv: u26 yendi ovncylmz: pik ruayi ceker mi ki alichengiz: Nevzat bey yei gˆ¶rˆ…nce, teˆ ekkˆ… r etmiˆ , masa kahkahadan kˆ‰rˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ :).. 4 MolvaM: +1 i ˆ¶nlemek kolay deˆ il gibi MolvaM: evet seyircilerimiz hatˆ‰rlattˆ‰lar. trefller de bozukmuˆ :) ˆ§ok mersi.. 3 fahir: tˆ…m katˆ‰lˆ‰mcˆ‰lara ve izleyicilere Federasyon olarak biz teˆ ekkˆ…r ederiz hobakan: ˆ u anda turnuvada 1. sˆ‰rada ˆ zmir B ˆ…yˆ…kˆ ehir Belediye var. alichengiz: ♣ ataˆ ˆ‰na batˆ‰yor, Dururyy Nikli seyircinin notu alichengiz: demek istediˆ im, elinizde sek A10 Aj varsa nt demek iˆ§in hevesli olabilirsinz di vugraphzpv: Tˆ…rkiye Sampiyonasˆ‰nˆ‰n son ugraph maˆ§ˆ‰nˆ‰ izliyoruz begse: 5 -3 iyi ama belki 3 kˆ¶r 1 ♣ alacak 4 imp kazanmak iˆ§in fazla riskli.. 2 tez : biraz erken batti.vale ♠ koysaydi sansi vardi.. 7.. 5 alichengiz: kadˆ‰nlarˆ‰mˆ‰zˆ‰n gruplarˆ‰ ndan 4’er takˆ‰m finale ˆ§ˆ‰kacak, 4’er takˆ‰ mlˆ‰ 2 grup kendi aralarˆ‰nda oynayacak, 1. ler final 2. ler 3-4 oynayacaklar ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) hobakan : kolbastˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰ 2. sˆ‰rada bulunmakta vulkan: ♠ Damˆ‰ ruayla ezip tref empasˆ‰ yapmak gerekecek MolvaM: eˆ er pikler 5-2 olsaydˆ‰ ercan kuru tabii ki hemen trefl asˆ‰nˆ‰ girip oyunu batˆ‰r ˆ‰rdˆ‰.. T alichengiz: ˆ imdi battˆ‰..♣A alichengiz: -3 filan olacak tez: vugrafta oynamak oyuncular uzerinde buyuk baski..benim ogrenciler bundan sonraki maclarinin vugrafta oldugunu ogrenince simdi oynayacaklari maci unuttular:)..♣4 tez: 22 puanlik guzel bir 6♠:) alichengiz: ˆ anslˆ‰ el vugraphzpv: senyˆ¶r milli 183 puanla 6. MolvaM: evet deklaran kˆ¶r ataˆ ˆ‰ boˆ lamasa idi oyunu yapacaktˆ‰ muhtemelen ama kˆ¶rlerin bloke olduˆ unu bilemezdi. yani oyunu makul..♣ 3 MolvaM: deklaran acaba kˆ¶rler partaj deˆ ilse ne yaparˆ‰m diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor MolvaM: normalde bizler falay-baˆ aran korkutekinci ˆ§iftlerine alˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰z kabexnuf: zaten sˆ‰kˆ‰sˆ‰yor..♣9..♣5 alichengiz: 9 lu piki bloke etmesi iyi alichengiz: 4-5 batar diyen seyirciler var, iyi defansa ve oyuna -3 oluyor, defans atlarsa veya oynayan oyun deˆ iˆ tirirse bu deˆ iˆ ir ergur: kibardˆ‰r nevzat abi ortaklarˆ‰la iliˆ kileri ˆ§ok iyidir:) kabexnuf: bilmese bile as trefi aldˆ‰ktan sonra karoya yatar..♣6..♣T..♣K alichengiz: ˆ u anda -3 ˆ§izgizinde ergur: kozdan ˆ¶nce cl oynamalˆ‰ydˆ‰..♠K hobakan: ilgili linkleri birazdan yayˆ‰nlayacaˆ ˆ ‰z MolvaM: nafiz zorlu’ya hoˆ geldiniz diyelim hep beraber.. 5 alichengiz: artˆ‰k bu maˆ§tan sonra grup filan kalmˆ‰yor ergur: 3 den fazla batmaz..♣8..♠A.. A.. 9 MolvaM: 21 puanlˆ‰k 3nt oldu. ama 26 puanlˆ‰ k 3nt batmaya doˆ ru gidiyor. tˆ…m briˆ§ konuˆ malarˆ‰nˆ‰ onˆ¶r puanlarˆ‰ ile sˆ…sleyenler iˆ §in ilginˆ§ 1 durum.. 7 begse: slm lar.. 6 ovncylmz: pik ruayi atar mi? hobakan: Trefl Rua ile bitmiyor bir de 9 luya karar verecek ¨ © © © © © Board NS: EW: o 3♣ c 2N 2 2 W -2 W 2 this/total IMPs Djarum 140 BTN 6 128 100 120 ♠ K J10 8 6 5 3 7 A54 ♣K9 ♠A 9 4 N ♠Q 2 Q10 9 K865 W E Q976 J10 3 S ♣ Q10 3 ♣A J 7 5 ♠7 A J 432 K82 ♣8 6 4 2 400 W: Piskanto W ¨ 2 2N N: Anthony S Closed S: Kamto N E 1 2♠ p p p ¨ ªK,2,7,4 ©5,2,Q,7 §2,Q,K,A §4,T,9,5 4 8 5 5 5 9 5 7 7 7 E: Franky K S p p p ª5,Q,©4,ª9 ©T,ª3,©6,J ©8,A,9,ª6 ¨6,4,J,K capercliff: W did double 1¨..©2 capercliff: so 3-3 © was unlickly #1 N:: #3 E:: #5 S:: #7 S:: #2 N:: #4 W:: #6 E:: #8 W:: jcomyn: great to see clubs come into their own at last pkl: I’ve heard that winning the Lady Milne Cup is almost as important to the Irish as winning the six nations, but that might be overdoing it pkl: Will East open? Would you guys? viren169: just a bit! sybarra: this spade suit would be easier to play :) toobad: when Ciara and Diane have the cards and are on form, anything possible!! ralfwil: But in fact - with Q10s on dummy and 1920 on the opener, a cannot be right thegarve: West had a huge hand on the bidding and 4♠ is lazy lestergold : understandable that the opening bidder may have had 13 points! mariner1: misfits abound here © - 14 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) lestergold: well 2 nine card minor suit fits manado_1: hi Jery dan Michael :) ketoprak: -1 for sure...:) capercliff: unlikely even..1 thegarve: hi all capercliff: hey Martin jallerton: Welcome to Martin Garvey (England) idc: I was remionded of some dates I’ve been on ¨ years ago viren169: No jcomyn: sure is, but Ireland will NOT be winning the Lady Milne pkl: Do you have the standings, Bjorling? viren169: Bal’d 11 counts are looking for swings! jcomyn: I think NI has every chance ralfwil : Yes! once I had contact with Golf & leisure Ireland. They sponsored a tournament at my club once a year ralfwil: but now it´·s bridge.... toobad : sorry folks, Ciara Burns and Diane Greenwood ........... in the open room, i hope!! lol jcomyn: dont care for that S suit lol jcomyn: but makes things difficult ralfwil: but you are right John - always 4 + 3 + ♠A = 8 lestergold: bad breaks abound tho mariner1: yes she should have cashed the A early as either k drops or has to ruff Q♠ mariner1: with it lestergold: east opening light here pard is gonna do a lot of bidding now mariner1: part score special here..p..2 ketoprak: another partscore pkl: Pass - really must be a question of style..2♠ viren169: The Hackett boys would have opened East’s hand in their sleep! jcomyn: Northern Ireland 1, Scotland 2, Ireland 3, Ireland B 4 England 5 Wales 6 ralfwil: better to defend 2♠ as EW and play it..p toobad: it will keep them out of trouble and 3/3 break mariner1: 1N swish likely lestergold: meanwhile hjard for vul opps to get into auction and find their club fit! idc: some of them were unlickly too :)..p thegarve: evening Cliff Jeffrey and Ian toobad: is that leb? tihas: S aggressive opening bid mught get NS to 3NT..2N tihas: which actually makes on a low spade lead capercliff: 41s is a practical bid here jallerton: can N avoid partner’s suit? © ¨ © ¨ - 15 - jallerton: well done capercliff: Scots better cash their tricks idc: hi Martin mariner1: a rounded suit works best sybarra: n/s need to get the suit right (not sure © that is easy) mariner1: now do we see action here? ralfwil: I ment instead of play it....p toobad: at least the vulnerability is in their favour ralfwil: agree John, but points in is better.... toobad: this isnt a speedball then? jcomyn: who wants to play in S? thegarve: should wrap up 9 quick tricks in 3NT thegarve: missed the first set and it looks to be a close match..p jcomyn: I would open the E hand if I were dead jcomyn: a real crunchy 11 count Not Vul jcomyn: whatever it is TROUBLE toobad: here we go viren169: Intersting this 2♣ bid... seems like it can be used for any hand!..p sybarra: who lead k of (nobody) toobad: cutting down the ruffs early..♠K thegarve: North took no risks with a 1 overcall lestergold: do u come in with t count vul holding two suits one of which has been bid by opps? mdgraham: but off on a heart lead - all up to East now..♠2 tihas: so rather fortunate 11 imps for Monte carlo viren169: Do we know what 2♣ is? single suiter? jcomyn: D or both majors I imagine sybarra: not sure where we are going here jcomyn: neither are they ralfwil: from a small trouble to a bigger jcomyn: why not pass 3D anything is better than this jcomyn: NI new pair setting out stall early jcomyn: ante..♠7 viren169: Makes sense now... lestergold: 6count..♠4 mariner1: a ♠ lead kills 3N,,,,,,, not sure it can be found lestergold: well 3n is the only game that has the vestige of a prayer sybarra: this might be best ..♠5 mariner1: ♣ lead likely and some play now lestergold: club lead if club opener was natural is absolutely off the scale pkl: Could 2♣ be four spades and another?..♠Q jcomyn: dont think so, they play ante.. 4 sybarra: sp taps and what does W do? mariner1: true © © © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) idc: Ace is for reverse attitude, so they should cash out..♠9 capercliff: udca jcomyn: I cant figure this bidding.. 5 sybarra: here .. 2 ralfwil: If I must bid on S I had prefered 2nt (1517) before D idc: wild boards in 1st half, lots of slams.. Q.. 7 sybarra: here is tap 1 mariner1: she is removing her own transportation, so its good that ♠ will break for her mariner1: sort of an oops on the suit lestergold: in a funny kind of way the l;ead was successful lestergold: east didnt dare safety play the dims lestergold: not an oops Rob east is expecting a club thru and the falling in of the roof mariner1: well since 3 2 also put it in jeapardy the safety play still had value mdgraham: can knock out A for nine tricks .. T ralfwil: a small had been better lestergold: i dont think a player at this level ould not make a safety play otherwise when they ar in a thin contract and delightwed to make it mariner1: oops 3 - 1 I mean mdgraham: as spades are 4-3 ..♠3 viren169: I guess we will have to wait until next hand to know for sure... mariner1: 3 - 1 was 50%.. 6.. J pkl: Ah - sorry. Did stare a bit at that word. I don’ t know that convention ;-)..♣2..♣Q viren169: Nice defence... jcomyn: ante is 2C=D or both majors; 2D= H or S and a aminor; 2H H and a minor ; 2S=S jcomyn: yes the trump attack is good and works well idc: in one with perfect fits and 3 grand slams available for NS, england reached game & scotland 4 :)..♣K ralfwil: duck! no exit card! pkl: Ah... makes sense..♣A viren169: Thks sybarra: no rush on the we know those cash mariner1: ♣ back now sybarra: k of ♣ or a ? now sybarra: not a we know that will be there also mariner1: 4 - 0 is 10% so 60% for the play once S followed diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND © © © © ¨ ¨ © © ¨ ¨ ¨ © © 93, SCOTLAND 91, ENGLAND 78, CBAI 71, IRELAND 67, WALES 46 **** ketoprak: free finesse...? jcomyn: yes well done.. 8.. A mariner1: and in the soup she goes ralfwil: do you agree?.. 9..♠6 ralfwil: J!..♣4 jcomyn: yes best of a bad lot santyclz: +400 NEXT!..♣T lestergold: but letting north in was approx zero percent jcomyn: but they MUST play in D surely with 53 fit..♣9..♣5 mariner1: well has a leg out now viren169: best to insert the T of ♣.. 6.. 4 mariner1: well you 1st have to see the play made by S,,,,,,, lead J and look.. J.. K lestergold: and all then rest but one now to the defence mariner1: if S plays Q then you are off the hook and can duck,,, lestergold: the problem with taht Rob is that if follow low which is correct on the layout- uve lost the chance of dropping the stiff queen offside mariner1: if S ducks the J then you are still a higher % to duck than to win in W diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING from LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 57, SCOTLAND 51, IRELAND 48, ENGLAND 44, CBAI 43, WALES 27 ***** © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © - 16 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) Board 3 NS: EW: o 3♣ N 3 c 3Nx N -4 this/total IMPs BTN 14 142 Djarum 140 110 800 3 8 ♠A4 4 Q 7 9 AK J 9 8 ♣A87642 ♠ K10 9 8 7 6 3 N ♠Q J 52 A J864 W E Q32 10 5 S ♣J ♣K Q 5 3 ♠5 2 4-5 8-9 K10 9 7 3 5 8764 3-4 ♣10 9 4-5 -100 W: A HAITANI W ¨ 2 p p N: J BOJOH Open E: OCTAVIAN S: L GONTHA N E S p X 2♠ p 3♣ p p ªQ,2,T,4 ©6,K,2,¨9 §A,3,9,J ªJ,5,9,A #1 E:: #3 E:: #5 N:: #7 E:: ©A,3,5,Q ¨4,2,J,5 §2,K,T,ª3 §8,Q,¨6,ª7 #2 E:: #4 S:: #6 N:: #8 N:: MolvaM: bir sonrakiˆ maˆ§larda aˆ§ˆ‰k takˆ‰ mla da katˆ‰lˆ‰yor MolvaM: aˆ§ˆ‰k takˆ‰mlarda ilk maˆ§lar tez: hoˆ geldiniz:) MolvaM: Nafiz zorlu ve tezcan ˆ en ustalar takˆ‰ mlarˆ‰nˆ‰ otomatik pilota baˆ layˆ‰p bize katˆ ‰ldˆ‰lar. teˆ ekkˆ…rler vugraphzpv: ♠ atat olmasaydˆ‰ sanˆ‰rˆ‰m iˆ i zordu vugraphzpv: markalarˆ‰ saˆ landˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§ in artˆ‰k farketmedi ovncylmz: 6 ve 4 vermis guney tez: ♠ ler uygun olacak.. empasi gececek ve partaj olacak ergur : ben aˆ§ˆ‰k sˆ¶yliyeyim kolbastˆ‰ tutuyorum alichengiz: klasik bir 3nt boardu ergur: ˆ§ˆ…nkˆ… bu ara ˆ§ok moda ¨ ¨ © - 17 - © alichengiz: :) kolbastˆ‰ ilginˆ§ iim alichengiz: yorumcularˆ‰n amacˆ‰ sizlere bilgi vermek oluyor hobakan : bir ˆ§oˆ unuz tanˆ‰yordur ancak birazcˆ‰k oyunculardan bahsederek baˆ layalˆ‰ m. hobakan: Pekˆ en-Ozcan ortaklˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ istanbulda ˆ§ok uzun sˆ…reden beri devam eden bir ortaklˆ ‰k. alichengiz: diˆ er takˆ‰mlar eleniyor, yarˆ‰n onlar 2 seanslˆ‰k board A Match turnuvasˆ‰na katˆ‰lacaklar veya Antalya’yˆ‰ gezip dinlenecekler alichengiz: "gerizekalˆ‰ 5 batˆ‰yor gˆ¶rmˆ… yor musun?" demeden, ˆ¶nce sabˆ‰rlˆ‰ olun lˆ …tfen :) alichengiz: 6♠ NS alichengiz: gelinirse; suya atsan oluyor cinsinden bir el ovncylmz: sonra 7..p hobakan: eli rica edelim kenancˆ‰m tez: selamlar:)..2 ..weak M MolvaM: sorunsuz bir 4♠ geliyor merih tokcan dan alichengiz: % 8.795 tez: %5.54398765432 luk bi slem:) alichengiz: :) alichengiz : benden daha yetkin bir yorumcu geldiˆ inde bˆ‰rakˆ‰rˆ‰m, hakaretemiz yazˆ‰ larˆ‰nˆ‰zˆ‰n bir anlamˆ‰ yok :) hobakan: deˆ il mi paˆ am? 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K hobakan: Zaim 2 Karo cue-bid’inin karo fiti oldu ˆ u varsayˆ‰mˆ‰ ile 4 e kadar ˆ§ˆ‰ktˆ‰ MolvaM: deklaran’ˆ‰n oyunu gayet makul ve mantˆ‰klˆ‰ fakat kaybeden biˆ r seˆ§enek idi arigun: 5! atagindan sonra batiyordu.. 2 fahir: trefl partaj olunca sorunsuz 10 lˆ¶ve arigun: six four bid more hesabi :).. 9 MolvaM: ters taraftan trefl oynanmasˆ‰n diye karo damˆ‰nˆ‰ soner de arayabilirdi overcall ¨ © ¨ © © © © ¨ ¨ © © ¨ Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) yapana plase etti alichengiz: ˆ imdi karo, yerin zayˆ‰fˆ‰ alichengiz: ortak pasiv atak yapˆ‰nca, diˆ er renklerden gˆ…cˆ… olmalˆ‰ emre kaya: Eymen 5 pike iyi dbl dedi simdi kˆ‰ sa kˆ¶r arayabilir onda ovncylmz: 7 diyen ortaga disarda koz dami varsa ne denir: "ortak sen dedin sen bul:)" alichengiz: 4. renk yapˆ‰p ortaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰n ilk rengini tutmak kuvvet gˆ¶steriyor alichengiz: 6 ya gelebilirlerse yaparlar vugraphzpv: bu maˆ§tan sonra A gurubundan 6 B gurubundan 2 takˆ‰m yarˆ‰n final oynayacak alichengiz: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/ bˆ…tˆ…n ayrˆ‰ntˆ‰lar sitede var, lˆ…tfen biraz karˆ‰ˆ tˆ ‰rˆ‰n hobakan: atak ciddi problem hobakan: ama kozda problem olmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nerek koz ˆ§ˆ‰kabilir alichengiz: koz ataˆ ˆ‰ defans iˆ§in en iyisi hobakan: koz dam problemi olmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ biliyor rakibin alichengiz: rkcb de, 6♣ ♣ ˆ igan ve 1-3 KC gˆ¶ sterir MolvaM: bu ˆ ekilde oynayan ˆ§ok var. 2 keycard ile 6 seviyesinde ˆ lem MolvaM: kimisi ise tersini oynuyoˆ‰r yani senin dediˆ in gibi alichengiz: anlaˆ maˆ a baˆ lˆ‰ bunlar tez: hosgeldiniz .. 4 hobakan: ama ortakta tek terfl hobakan: yazˆ‰yordum ki..... alichengiz: sˆ…rekli otaklˆ‰larda herˆ ey deˆ iˆ tirilebilir alichengiz: ortakla anlaˆ mak ˆ¶nemli olan alichengiz: KC= Key Card, koz Ruasˆ‰ dahil 5 ˆ¶nemli Kart var tez: fahir uzumcu bric federasyonu genel baskanˆ ‰.. 2 alichengiz: :) MolvaM: gerˆ§i tˆ…rkiyede eski ortaklˆ‰k ile kastedilen ˆ ey "geˆ§en ˆ§arˆ amba kurulmuˆ oratklˆ‰k" anlamˆ‰na geliyor. ˆ¶zellikle ˆ…st d ˆ…zey oyuncularˆ‰mˆ‰z arasˆ‰nda ˆ iddetli ge ˆ§imsizlikler olur ... MolvaM: genellikle bir sˆ…re sonra hobakan : piklerin 4-1 daˆ ˆ‰ldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ bir kontrat izlemekteyiz.. J hobakan: karolar kapalˆ‰ olduˆ u iˆ§in kuvvetle muhtemel yapˆ‰lacak.. 5 hobakan: ancak bir ara kˆ¶r rua’nˆ‰n da uˆ§ urulmasˆ‰ lazˆ‰m ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ alichengiz: koz ihalesine uzun rengin asˆ‰nˆ‰ ˆ §ekmek kˆ¶tˆ… fikir deˆ il hobakan: trefl yerde 2 li ise tek batarˆ‰ olabilirdi. tez: cok iyi 4♠..kozlar kotu dagildigi icin batacak.. ♣A tez: ilk elde yerden oynayip elden 10 koymasi gerekiyordu yapabilmek icin..oyle oynarmiydim..hayir tez: el goren bulbullugu yapiyorum MolvaM: 1 nolu bordda beklenen oldu ve altan takˆ‰mˆ‰ 13 puan aldˆ‰ alichengiz: yu dˆ¶nerken ufak dˆ¶nerse onˆ¶r vaad etmeli, bˆ…yˆ…k dˆ¶nerse onˆ¶r yok tez: buyuk harf kucuk harf noktalama isaretleri konusunda ozurluyum..♣3 tez: ♠ empas yapmazsa..♣9 tez: 2 de verecek tez: 3 acanda ♠ ler kisadir derler..baraj yapanda ♠ kisadir derler..kuzey baraj yapti tez: peki nerde bu ♠ ler:) ovncylmz: 2pik min dbl eli degil mi tezcan abi standartta da? MolvaM: artˆ‰k +1 diye el aˆ§abilir..♣J MolvaM: eˆ er pik 8’linin farkˆ‰nda ise vugraphzpv: batˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor vugraphzpv: murat abi sˆ¶yleyeyim mi +1 baˆ ka biˆ i olmaz diye:):) MolvaM: :) hobakan: o iˆ tasmam hobakan: trefl ˆ§akˆ‰nca 10 lˆ¶ve oldu alichengiz: ortakta tek olabileceˆ i iˆ§in ama bugˆ …n o gˆ…n deˆ il hobakan: sanˆ‰rˆ‰m Atalay ortaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰n maj ˆ¶rlerden birini seˆ§mesini istedi. alichengiz: elden as ˆ§ekerek, iˆ§erdeki Jxxx ’e ˆ¶nlem alˆ‰yor alichengiz: Bravo doˆ rusu tez: simdi yerden ♣ oynarsa kuzey cakmamali.. ♣2 tez: havaya cakmak deniyor bizim koyde alichengiz: deklarasyon sistemleri deˆ iˆ ik, ˆ§ok yapay (artificiel) konuˆ ma var NS ˆ§iftinde tez: koz oynamali simdi..♣K vugraphzpv: kuzey oyuncusu elindek pik attˆ‰ ve dekleran direktˆ¶r ˆ§aˆ ˆ‰rdˆ‰ tez: ♠ 6li cezali kart olacak vugraphzpv: kuzey oyuncusu pik as duyduˆ unu sˆ¶ylˆ…yor tez: kuzey asina ♠ vermis masada alichengiz: ve koz ˆ§ekilip el aˆ§ˆ‰lacak vugraphzpv: pik 6lˆ‰ cezalˆ‰ kart olarak karar verildi..♣T hobakan: ˆ imdi karolar oynanacak..♠3 © ¨ © © © ¨ - 20 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) alichengiz: ˆ imdi +2..♠J ovncylmz: board 2 diger masada 4H oynaniyor.. ♠5 hobakan: hala 3 batˆ‰rma ˆ ansˆ‰ var defansˆ ‰n arigun: © A dan sonra defans simdi 2 ♠ alir halˆ e geldi..♠9 alichengiz: ˆ§apraz ˆ§aka ile bˆ…tˆ…n lˆ¶veleri alˆ‰yor (Cross Ruff)..♠A alichengiz: 8 5 li lkaroyu ♣ kˆ¶r ˆ§akmak iˆ§in kullanmalˆ‰ tabi ki tez: onor sur onor yapmamak hicbiseye kazandirmaz.. ♣8..♣Q.. 6 tez: ♠ oynandiginda ♠ 6 yi vermek zorunda..baska ♠ i olsada baska kart veremez tez: rakip 2 dememis olsaydi 2♠ iyi el gosterirdi fahir: selam Tezcan..♠7 ovncylmz: evet o zaman 1pikin maksimumu isen zon olabilir tez: koz 9 lusu terfi edecek ¨ ¨ Board 3 NS: EW: o 3♣ N 3 c 3Nx N -4 this/total IMPs Djarum 140 BTN 14 142 110 800 3 8 ♠A4 4 Q 7 9 AK J 9 8 ♣A87642 ♠ K10 9 8 7 6 3 N ♠Q J 52 A J864 W E Q32 10 5 S ♣J ♣K Q 5 3 ♠5 2 4-5 8-9 K10 9 7 3 5 8764 3-4 ♣10 9 4-5 -100 W N: Anthony S Closed S: Kamto N E 3♠ p 3N p W: Piskanto ª © ¨ ª § © ª § © ª § ¨ E: Franky K S p p X ª ¨ ¨ § ¨ ª § ª § ©§ #1 E:: Q,2,T,4 #2 E:: J,5,K,A #3 N:: Q,4,3,5 #4 N:: A,5,4,2 #5 N:: K,T,6,3 #6 N:: 9, 3, 7,Q #7 W:: 8, 2, 6,7 #8 W:: 9, 4,K,T #9 W:: 7, 6, 8,9 #10 W:: 6, 7, J, 9 #11 W:: 3, 8,5, 8 tihas: declarer put in the ♠J because he new the opening lead was from 4 card suit capercliff: 1N? viren169: Good hands for opening weak NT pkl: It looks like the limit is 2♠ EW sybarra: 3 nt n/s? have she handle it? jcomyn: I dont like 5-4 twos I believe it should always be 5-5 santyclz: We get spoiled playing on bbo where that would have been claimed at trick 3. thegarve: N/S should save in 5 over 4♠ - no guarantees though lestergold: when does it gain ? mariner1: it is 100% the best line, whether it works or not :) lestergold: disagree on this occasion mariner1: nothing she does was a 100% so you opt for the best line..p ¨ - 21 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) tihas: otherwise it would have been very dangerous play..3♠ jcomyn: these are again very tricky boards ralfwil: 5♣ on W but how? mariner1: EW can make 3N ... about only game that makes either way best defense sybarra: an we open what with N hand? mariner1: we pass mariner1: E will open sybarra : I hope I have a 2 suited bid in my arsenal actually mariner1: if you open N you will never get both suits in and show as weak as you are mariner1: yes if you have that then its works here mariner1: a two suiter by N would possibly lead EW into 3N though sybarra: true also Rob ketoprak: NS pair is a young talented players from Semarang - Central Java... ketoprak: they won the ABCC last december.. ketoprak: what a brave 3♠ on vul... capercliff: 2 will need a bit of luck..3N.. pkl: Kelly knew that ;-) jcomyn: notice that excellent hand to start was a mere 2S in open room - jeepers viren169: Now North may roll back in with a dble... jcomyn: WHACK sybarra: yes toobad: d trans coming up sharkirl: 3nt likely e/w mariner1: so does that mariner1: S has an interesting problem..... pass, 4 or DBL mariner1: 4 would be my call though......... thegarve: East will protect with a double..p viren169: and E/W will take the push to 3♠ ketoprak: no entry to W..p idc: just about to suggest the same thing..p idc: it isn’t mandatory at teams, but just about worth it I think jallerton: giving W a decision capercliff: 2♠ will need even more luck capercliff: I cant imagine W floating it thegarve: and they mat even play in the 33 ♠ fit Walddk7: Good morning to Geoffrey Wolfarth santyclz: 3♣ to show a good weak 2. tihas: it would be tempting to pass on 2♠ with E hand..♠Q tihas : but you have to be fairly certain that partner would balance also with 6 hcp mdgraham: East goes for the vulnerable game - © © ¨ © © might even have bid 3NT jallerton: in which case East did well to pass out 2 idc: 3-3 fits are good for you, they often play quite well viren169: Looks like Knight got their 1st! jcomyn: and interesting hand jcomyn: even I wouldnt bid 2S on that rubbish roswolf: hi all mariner1: when you see all 4 hands it is often very hard to give an honest opinion,,,,, S mariner1: agrees though diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 93, SCOTLAND 91, ENGLAND 78, CBAI 71, IRELAND 67, WALES 46 **** lestergold: if either opp holds singleton q its a losing play mariner1: 4 makes here ketoprak: no "bridge" to dummy...:( idc: for one thing, the fdefenders rarely realize what’s afoot..♠2 capercliff: might make 2 on this lead jallerton: I’d still prefer to defend 2 that play in the concealed 3-3 fit vulnerable thegarve: the 33 fit often plays rather well capercliff: yes because you normally have a 9card side suit:) ralfwil: also 3nt on W with a lead lestergold: and in the only case it helps it needs an error from the defence mdgraham: South might have led the ♠J..♠T viren169: dble by S is a bit risky with West still unlimited..♠4 viren169: and only 3 hearts viren169: Cant see any line to make this.....♠J sybarra: that is a trick she didnt have jcomyn: and a really bad lead ralfwil: and with A on N always 9 tricks in nt toobad: i prefer 2nt rather than 3d from W sharkirl: Hi Geoffrey mariner1: look at it later without worrying about being off,,,, consider only making it tihas: the 2♠ opening actually got NS out of the trouble with bad break..♠5 jcomyn: was 2D a transfer? toobad: doubt it jcomyn: then why did E bid 2H? toobad: prob dont play transfers to minors over interference ralfwil: at last they were. but I don´·t think they were agreed © © © © © ¨ © - 22 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) roswolf: hi michael lestergold: thats what i am considering mariner1: this will play easy enough mdgraham: partner’s suit, and all that..♠K..♠A tihas: they probably would have arrived in 4 if © left to their own devices henryb: gee. I would get to 2 tihas: 2♠ opening promised a minor, too, so the logical thing would be to look for this minor thegarve: i suspect more IMPs out here and at this rate for CBAI to clock up a century soon santyclz: The w hand has 2 strikes against it for a weak 2. 4 cards in the other major and a side ace. Either one might be ignored, but both is iffy. thegarve: FWIW I wiuld have opened the South hand 1 pkl: So any possiblility to win 3♠? There’s no legit way, but could Pender perform some kind of magic? I dont believe so.. Q roswolf : well this looks cast-iron - north’s overcall was somewhat light- hearted ketoprak: hard decision for E.... toobad: 3d and a s it looks like.. 4 toobad: tick ralfwil: w will make thegarve: or 1♠ playing my strong ♣ system showing hearts lestergold : how can it rbe right to play the J when its never right for defenders tio cover and its never right to run it either mariner1: no you are hung up on N getting in without considering the highest % to make henryb: 1♣-1 -1♠-1NT-2 all pass.. 3.. 5 mdgraham: cute club play by East.. A tihas: declarer has 7 tricks and tries to create some magic diumraid: **** IN RUNNING LIVE LADY MILNE **** IRELAND 34, N-IRELAND 33, SCOTLAND 32, CBAI 32, ENGLAND 28, WALES 21 ***** diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 93, SCOTLAND 91, ENGLAND 78, CBAI 71, IRELAND 67, WALES 46 **** lestergold: you telling me that if south plays low you would run it? mariner1: it is by far better to play J than small to W mariner1: absolutely lestergold: and explain to teamamtes why you went off on a routine hand where north held qx or even worse q stiff © © © © ¨ © ¨ ¨ - 23 - © © mariner1 : you consider the odds to make an aggressive contract henryb: hoping for another ♠ pitch by N. Got it.. 5.. 4.. 2 santyclz: I agree with 1 by s. lestergold: but u hacvent answered my qustionwhen does it gain in terms of making the contract? .. K mdgraham: and gets it - another spade discard from North.. T ralfwil: agre John. Many HP and a too bad mariner1 : taking a 60% chance to make is reasonable....... sharkirl: 12 tks should follow.. 6 mariner1: E in an untenable position on that ♠,, only K9 ♠.. 3.. 9 viren169: At least we are understanding their system better! Weak NT vs Strong NT both with 4-card majs!..♣3.. 7.. Q jcomyn: c has to be lost viren169: and lots of bidding! ketoprak: ups.. toobad: no h through now..♠8 santyclz: Although the result would probably be missing the 5 sac because n would expect to beat 4♠ with a ruff or two. lestergold: yes but what is the 60% case jallerton: The 3-3 fit doesn’t play well on this deal. -300 off perhaps..♣2 mariner1: I did that way up there where I told you what the odds were tihas: basically he was hoping that ops would cash their 5 club tricks and there would be pressure in the end to create the 8th trick.. 6 jcomyn: should be -800.. 7..♠9 mariner1: scroll up capercliff: wonder why declarer decided to pitch ♣ rather than ♠..♣4..♣K..♣T..♠7 ralfwil: claim..♣6 mariner1: needs to ruff lestergold: but i dont follow ur argument Rob viren169: Scores can be found here: http://www.cbai.ie /documents/LadyMilneScoreboard1.pdf.. 8.. 9 lestergold: maybe im being thick i often am..♠6 mariner1: then you needs to look at it later toobad: 10 tricks..♣7 mariner1: now the set in ensured mariner1: is lestergold: i agree ill show thehand to my son c what he has to say henryb: so 8 of the previous board’s imps go back.. J..♣9 ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © © © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) ¨ ketoprak: -4..♠3..♣8..♣5.. 8 viren169: going down to the bitter end! jcomyn: and is now Board NS: EW: o 4 c 4 © © 4 this/total IMPs BTN 142 Djarum 140 620 620 N 4 N 4 4 9 ♠ AK 8 7 K Q10 9 6 4 3 10 10 10 9 8 7 ♣ ♠10 9 7 4 2 N ♠J53 A8 J52 W E J3 A74 S ♣10 6 4 3 ♣AK 9 8 ♠Q 6 4 6 7 2 KQ65 2 3 ♣Q J 7 5 2 6 620 W: A HAITANI W p 1♠ p N: J BOJOH Open E: OCTAVIAN S: L GONTHA N E S 1 X XX 4 p p © © § © ª © ¨ ª § © § § © § ¨ ¨ ª © © § © ª ¨ ª ¨ ª § © #1 E:: K,2,4, 3 #2 N:: Q,2,7,A #3 W:: 2,A,3,6 #4 N:: K,5, 5, 8 #5 N:: T,J, 2, 4 #6 E:: 5,Q,7,8 #7 S:: 7,3, 4, 8 #8 N:: T,4,K,3 #9 S:: J,6, 6, 9 #10 N:: K,J, 5, 9 #11 N:: 8,A,6,J #12 E:: A,Q,T, 9 #13 N:: 9,7,Q, T tez: bilgisayarin dagittigi eller genellikle zevkli oluyor MolvaM: gerˆ§i 4 kˆ¶r batmaz gibi duruyordu ama tez: 4 u guvenli oynamamiˆ kabexnuf: karoyu verse +1 vugraphzpv: maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰ ve butler sˆ‰ ralamasˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz vugraphzpv: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=195: tuerkye-bayan-doertlue-sonuclari&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 vugraphzpv: maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰ ve butler sˆ‰ ralamasˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz vugraphzpv: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=195: tuerkye-bayan-doertlue-sonuclari&catid=50:2008- © - 24 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) 2009-sezonu&Itemid=99 alichengiz: oynayan son 6 nˆ‰n 5 ni aldˆ‰ bˆ¶ ylece, ♣ ye saldˆ‰rmak pek iyi fikir deˆ ildi ovncylmz: 2.boardda diger masada cok basarili bir kor atak ovncylmz: hemen masadaki tansiyonu soralim kenana.. alichengiz: 9 sayarken enpas atˆ‰lˆ‰r mˆ‰? 22 daˆ ˆ‰lma ihtimali, % 40, 3-1 % 50 vugraphzpv: herˆ ey ˆ§ok normal hiˆ§ bi sorun yok alichengiz: bazˆ‰sˆ‰ atar, bazˆ‰sˆ‰ ˆ§eker alichengiz: empas atmak daha iyi vugraphzpv: 15. boardla ilgili bi sorun var ovncylmz : empas atmak daha iyi degil, AK cekmiyor muyuz? alichengiz: yˆ…zdelere bakˆ‰n vugraphzpv: oynadˆ‰klarˆ‰ 15. board iptal edildi ˆ uan onu oynuyorlar alichengiz: kme kˆ‰zˆ‰yorsa ona atacak :) vugraphzpv: sistemde olmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in o eli g ˆ¶steremeyeceˆ iz alichengiz: bu el oynanacak mˆ‰ Kenan? alichengiz: bilmiyorum, neden ipal edildiˆ ini, orada Kenan bilgi verebilir vugraphzpv: evet oynanacak bu el 15. boardtan sonra vugraphzpv: iptal nedeni 15. boardda ellerin daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰mˆ‰yla ilgili bi yanlˆ‰ˆ lˆ‰k olmuˆ alichengiz: bu el 5 EW’e, ♣ durumu bilinirse 5 NS’a vugraphzpv: onun yerine hemen bi board yapˆ‰ ldˆ‰ ve oynattˆ‰rˆ‰yorlar alichengiz : toplam lˆ¶ve kanunu, iki tarafta toplam 21 koz var alichengiz: bu 21 lˆ¶ve demek, Gˆ…neyde ˆ igan ve tek var buda 1 lˆ¶ve extra alichengiz: 22 vugraphzpv: 15. board 3nt oynadˆ‰lar ve eˆ it oldu carleone22: 15. bord butun masalarda toplatˆ‰ld ˆ‰ bu masa ˆ‰le ˆ‰lgˆ‰lˆ‰ degˆ‰l vugraphzpv: Eymen BEDIR gˆ…zel bir oyun oynadˆ‰ gˆ¶stermek isterdik ama sisteme eklenmedi ˆ i iˆ§in el gˆ¶steremedik hobakan: maˆ§ˆ‰n 1 numaralˆ‰ elinde her 2 do ˆ u oyuncu da 1 pik’e 2 kˆ¶r diye over-call yapˆ‰ nca ortaklarˆ‰ 4 kˆ¶re yˆ…kseldi ve egale oldu. MolvaM: evet kesin anlaˆ ma olmadan bu tˆ…r deklareleri vermek kˆ¶tˆ… sonuˆ§lar verebiliyor MolvaM: oo iˆ te gˆ…zel bir grandˆ lem MolvaM: yerde trefl as olmasa idi bulmasˆ‰ daha ¨ - 25 - © zor olurdu herhalde. hobakan : 2 terfl aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ndan sonra daha rahat gelinebilir arigun: murat 6♠ i oynarken saginda ♠Q veya K den birini arayarak oynadi yuksek yuzdeli oyun alichengiz: 4 EW MolvaM: bir baˆ ka dˆ…z board alichengiz: NS ta sˆ…per fiti MolvaM: geˆ§meyen empas yok alichengiz: ˆ anslˆ‰ 1 4 alichengiz: 1♣ 2♣ 3/4 tez: elle kartlari kardiginizda iyi karistiramiyorsunuz....p ovncylmz: ortagin 1♣ pass 1 DBL ina ragmen:) alichengiz: bitince konuˆ alˆ‰m lˆ…tfen, ˆ imdi yetiˆ emem :) ovncylmz: ama 2 araya girdikten sonra 3 /3♠ var daha iyi eller icin alichengiz: Rokos 1 demesi 1♠ bir ˆ ey vaad etmez o zaman 2♠ iyi el olurdu, bu sekansta herkes elini konuˆ tu ama 3’e ˆ§ˆ‰kmalarˆ‰ fazla oldu MolvaM: ˆ imdi muhtemelen her iki tarafta da bulunabilecek tˆ…rde bir grandˆ lem alichengiz: bence o dengeyle 3 iyi, gˆ…ny 4 der sonra vugraphzpv: sorunsuz bir 4♠ olur sanˆ‰rˆ‰ m..1 ergur: 7nt :) vugraphzpv: turnuva programˆ‰nˆ‰ ˆ¶ˆ renmek iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz vugraphzpv: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=49:2009tuerkye-brc-ampyonalari-talyada-25-nsan-3mayis-2009&catid=50:2008-2009-sezonu& Itemid=99 hobakan: 2 numaralˆ‰ elde 1 lˆ¶ve fazla alan pekˆ en takˆ‰mˆ‰na ilk imp yi kazandˆ‰rdˆ‰. tez: 1♠ kontrlu oynanirmi dersiniz?.. MolvaM: 1nt? hobakan: ama 1 kˆ¶r tercihi benim standartlarˆ‰ ma gˆ¶re gayet normal alichengiz: davet edilince, gˆ…zel daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰mˆ ‰yla zona geleceklerdir alichengiz: EW ♣ yi kuvvetli mi oynuyor? tez : simdi oyunun basinda kaybedilen 1 imp oyunun gidisatini etkileyebiliyor..r MolvaM: bence de tez: 4 e gelecekler saniyorum..1♠ arigun: 5♣ oluyor alichengiz: NS FN oynuyor olmalˆ‰, 15 kadar olabilir © © © © © © ¨ ¨ © © ¨ © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) © tez: 4♣ 4 e transfer.. alichengiz: 16 numaralˆ‰ elde, 4 © arigun: south elinden 5♣ biraz fazla oldu dengeli ¨ d derdim arigun: sanirim 3 transfer hobakan: Murat Abi seneye bi ikili oynayalˆ‰m bari biz. bak ne gˆ…zel anlaˆ ˆ‰yoruz MolvaM: sˆ…rkontr ile 1. tur kontrolu gˆ¶sterse idi MolvaM: :) bence de arigun: haldun pass demeyi dusunuyor heralde... tez: gitti 800..♣2 arigun: zonda ucuz atlatildi.. MolvaM: 11 imp MolvaM: ˆ imdi kuzeyden 2 pik mi? yoksa 3 kˆ¶r smolen mi? alichengiz: deˆ ildir alichengiz: 3 lˆ… olabilir diye alert edilmiˆ tir ovncylmz: hmm hobakan: 1 Tefl- 1 Karo ˆ…zerine dengeli elle majˆ¶rˆ…n sˆ¶ylenmediˆ i naturel sistemler var. MolvaM: bu 5♣ herhalde exclusion blackwood idi? hobakan: evet sˆ…rkontr ile 1.tur gˆ¶sterse idi 4NT ile sorabilirdi. alichengiz: maykˆ‰ls (michaels) majorler gˆ¶ stermenin en basit yˆ¶ntemi, rakibin aˆ§tˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ minˆ¶rˆ… 2 diyerek sˆ¶ylemek yetiyor tez: ♠ atagi batiriyor 6♣ i..♣4 arigun: seyircilerden bazilari 4♠ oneriyor west eliyle tez: 6♣ oluyor..oynayan icin hersey uygun tez: ben pas derdim simdi batinin eliyle tez: slem kacirirdik:) vugraphzpv: sanˆ‰rˆ‰m ˆ lem hayali kurulmaya baˆ ladˆ‰ alichengiz: 2 demesi lazˆ‰m aksi halde Nihal’ in sas2nt: seyredenler de salvo DBL yasakladˆ‰ diyecekler.. 3 arigun: 5 imp lik hasar ucuz oldu bu el icin :) MolvaM: alttan aldˆ‰ alichengiz: 2 , 1 ♠, 2♣ veriyor ve -1 alichengiz: defans yapmak istemeyecektir alichengiz: 6 -1 veya 2 ♣ durumunu bilmesine baˆ lˆ‰, Hakanda kˆ‰sa olunca, ♣’nin uzun olma ihtimali artar alichengiz: tabi Aydoˆ du kardeˆ ler ˆ¶yle oynuyor, Murat ile ˆ¶yle mi tam emin deˆ ilim ovncylmz: bu sekanslarda deklarasyonu guvenerek yapmak iyi.. Q -3 olmuˆ tu, diˆ er masada 2 +! olunca 440 sayˆ‰ fak oldu ve 10 imp ankara ekibine alichengiz: 4 splinter alichengiz: 4+ tutuˆ 10-12 onˆ¶r kˆ‰sa alichengiz : EW 4 lˆ… major ile aˆ§abiliyor, Kanepe oynuyorlar arigun: turnuva ile ilgili detaylari ; http://www.tbricfed.org.tr adresinden bulabilirsiniz..4 tez: bende 1 nt acardiˆ‰m..siz? arigun: kontrati ♠ i oynayis tarzina gore 1 veya 2 batacak vugraphzpv: 7 nin her tˆ…rlˆ…sˆ… bu el oluyor galiba:) ergur: evet ama fikrettten beklentim 7nt vugraphzpv: pik hariˆ§ tabi ki:) arigun: 2. maclar 15:30 da baslayacak, Major Bogazici-Antalya takimlari vu-graphda olacak, 3. maclar 18:00 de ve Likom-Mersin maci canli yayinlanacak..p MolvaM: evet arigun: .. tˆ‰ :) vugraphzpv: 4♠ de oluyordu piki bilirse vugraphzpv: sry -! alichengiz : staymandan geˆ§se 4-4 pik fiti olabilir, 6-2 kˆ¶r olabilir alichengiz: major aˆ§tˆ‰klarˆ‰nda yanda daha uzun bir renk olabiliyor tez: 3♠ denebilir batinin eliyle..p MolvaM: beklendiˆ i gibi atabey takˆ‰mˆ‰ 15. borddaki yanlˆ‰ˆ anlaˆ manˆ‰n mˆ…kafatˆ‰nˆ ‰ 10 imp kazanarak gˆ¶rdˆ… ergur: 7 nt haldun abi diyecek alichengiz: Acol benzeri alichengiz: -3 tez: ♠ kisa cok iyi el..♣ tutusu..p vugraphzpv: bu cevaptan sonra sanˆ‰rˆ‰m memnun olmamˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰r ovncylmz: bu da gazilli galiba, ya natural trefller, ya da kuvvetli herhangi bir el ovncylmz: 4h=13-15 3lu tutus alichengiz: ♠ ataˆ ˆ‰ olmazsa ♣ pasˆ‰ ile 6 mˆ…mkˆ…n alichengiz: 3 yˆ…ksek alichengiz : teki beˆ eniyor ama ˆ lemi force edecek gˆ…cˆ… yok alichengiz: ˆ imdi 5 gelir Hakandan ˆ§ok kozu var tez : 2 naturel renk..vaadettigim rengi kim soylerse soylesin..bu renk benim rengim demek..cuebid yapmak isteseydi acis rengini soylerdi..♣K © ¨ © ¨ © © © © elle ¨K ve Qxxxxx fit iyi muhakkak ama .... arigun: deklere edilebilise 6♣ de oluyot galiba tez: 2nt as ikili ile iyi konusma degil..naturel 2 ¨ © ¨ © ¨ © ¨ © - 26 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) arigun: 4♠ de © kupu var ve karo vermekten kurtulamiyor tez: ♠ oynamazsa sorun kalmayacak alichengiz: Nihal Dilek komplike sistem oynamazlar tez: baris ve kasapoglu nasil oynuyor bilmiyorum ergur: muratla oynamˆ‰yorlar cengiz MolvaM: doˆ u 4-4 majˆ¶r gˆ¶sterdi bu deklarede.. 2 MolvaM: ve ˆ imdi kuzey 8 oynayˆ‰nca doˆ uda KQJ anlaˆ ˆ‰lacak MolvaM: yani nur kumkale daha 1. lˆ¶vede tˆ…m daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰mˆ‰ biliyor olmasˆ‰ gerek MolvaM: yakˆ‰m maˆ§ˆ‰nda zondayken zon ka ˆ§ˆ‰rmayayˆ‰m deyip smolen yapan ˆ§ok ˆ§ˆ‰ kar bu elle ovncylmz: yuzunuzde bir sikinti falan olursa guneyden dbl atan cok rakip cikar arigun: 5♣ de kupunu alici koz la yapiyor ovncylmz: her sey normal o zaman:) alichengiz: olabildiˆ ince basic alichengiz: bazˆ‰ ˆ§ifler bunu, limitli oynuyor, 8-12 veya 15+ gibi aralˆ‰ktaki ellerle ♠ deyip sonra kˆ¶r diyorlar alichengiz: kozlar alˆ‰nˆ‰p, yan renge giryor, her ˆ ey iyi olunca nema problema vugraphzpv: o zaman sen kesin dbl atardˆ‰n ˆ¶v ˆ…nˆ§.. 7 ovncylmz: perde nerde kenan su anda? vugraphzpv: g_b vugraphzpv: k_d ergur: bu benim iˆ§in hayalkˆ‰rˆ‰klˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ oldu alichengiz: 2 gˆ…n ˆ¶nce gˆ¶rmˆ…ˆ tˆ…m bir ellerini, yanlˆ‰ˆ anˆ‰msˆ‰yor olabiliri alichengiz: m alichengiz: ♠’in yerini bilirse +1.. A tez: arada sirada slem kacirmiyorsan durmadan slemlere batiyorsun demektir..♠2 tez: slem kacirmak namusa leke getirmez tez: ♠ oynarsa yinede yapabilir ama daha zor alichengiz: Ankara ekibi UDCA oynuyor olmalˆ ‰ alichengiz: Carding olarak alichengiz: ♣ K’ya 4 lˆ… beˆ endim demek, kˆ …ˆ§ˆ…k apel alichengiz : UDCA, standart cardingin tersi oluyor, Kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k apel ters sayˆ‰ hobakan: sˆ¶yleyenler de var tabiki:) tez: dogu bati kucuk apel ters sayi oynuyorlar..♠ A arigun: e dogru karar verirse 12 love ovncylmz: muhammet zorla mi 3nt dedi:) © ¨ ¨ © © © © - 27 - tez: biz nasil oynuyoruz onu yazayim..isteyen not alsin MolvaM: dilek ˆ§ok emin olmamakla birlikte 2nt ¨ diyen ortakta K ve ♠K oluversin artˆ‰k dedi muhtemelen MolvaM: ataˆ§ bu elde doˆ ru karar verdi..♠3 relrikas: ♠ i bilmesi gerekecek defans etliye sˆ… tlˆ…ye karismazsa..♠6 alichengiz : Gˆ…neˆ li Antalya’dan selamlar sevgiler vugraphzpv: 2nt yi zorla dedi.. K vugraphzpv: 3nt mecbur kalˆ‰p sˆ¶yledi vulkan: ♣ Asˆ‰ bilinse bile 7nt demek zor ve gereksiz takˆ‰m maˆ§ˆ‰nda tez: u alinca ♠ i tahsil eder.. 5 vugraphzpv: ve ˆ¶ylede deklere edildi tez: artik batti ovncylmz: =) alichengiz: Bˆ…yˆ…k Koz ile ˆ¶akar alichengiz: ♣ giderse alichengiz: -3 ˆ§izgisi devam ediyor..♣5 alichengiz: Nafiz Zorlu, Salvodor Assael ˆ§ifti Tˆ …rkiyenin en deneyimli partnerliˆ i.. 8 alichengiz: ama bu eller ˆ§ok rahat, Pekˆ en iˆ§in daha Aktiv, karˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰k eller gerekiyor relrikas: murat oyunu ˆ§ˆ¶zdˆ… -2.. T hobakan: 7 direkt lˆ¶ve var. alichengiz: ˆ imdi ♣ 4-2 ye oynar empas atarsa 6 yapacak.. J relrikas: ♣ vale dusmeseydi tabi.. 2 relrikas: ilk yorum olur o kadar :) ergur: rakibin sadece 3 puanˆ‰ var..♠4 arigun: emin abide 2 tene ♠ olsa bir sansi vardi 2 nun simdi muhtemelen batacak..♠5 hobakan: trefl ataˆ ˆ‰na batar mˆ‰ydˆ‰ acaba? diye soruluyor...♠Q alichengiz: bir As ˆ§izme giriˆ imi izlediniz..♠7 alichengiz: ama ˆ§eker :)..♠8 tez: 1nt ye 4♣ ..1nt 4 ♠ e taransfer ve slem daveti hobakan: evet batardˆ‰.. ama 1 kˆ¶r denince treflin durumu pek belli deˆ il. MolvaM: bu takˆ‰mˆ‰n adˆ‰nˆ‰n Atabey olmasˆ‰nˆ‰n sebebi soruluyuor. Herhalde takˆ ‰mˆ‰n ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰rˆ‰cˆ‰sˆ‰ milli sporcular ˆ‰mˆ‰zdan Yalˆ§ˆ‰n Atabey’dir diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ …nmˆ…yorum. ama farklˆ‰ bilgisi olan varsa .....♣7 MolvaM: buyursun lˆ…tfen arigun: turnuava salonunda internet baglantisi biraz sorunlu..♣3.. 4..♣8.. T.. 4 ogoksel: herkese selamlar © © © © © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ ¨ Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) ovncylmz: defans su an hangi lovemizi alsak ¨ ¨ daha cok batar diye dusunuyo.. K.. 3..♣J vugraphzpv: beklenmedik bir lˆ¶ve ˆ§ˆ‰ktˆ‰ ama oda yetmiyor vugraphzpv: ok sen yaz beraber yazalˆ‰m sap gibi kalmasˆ‰n masa:) kabexnuf: merhabalar ovncylmz: selam herkese alichengiz: bu baraj, kˆ¶tˆ… oluyor No Name1 takˆ‰mˆ‰ adˆ‰na..♣6 arigun: 2 batti simdi.. 6 alichengiz: -2 yapmak iˆ§in 2♠ verince..♣9..♠ K tez: yakˆ‰m=takˆ‰m..♠J.. 5 alichengiz: 3-3 % de 30, 4-2 % 57 MolvaM: teˆ ekkˆ…r Tez :) hislerime tercˆ…man oldun..♠9 kabexnuf: diˆ er masa gazilli oynamˆ‰yor, 1ntye 3c rebidinden sonra gittiler ovncylmz: bu masada daha bilimsel gelinmis acikcasi sleme, ama gazilliden sonra 2 ye 3♠ diyen bu mudur o tartisilir:) ovncylmz: 2nt daha iyi gibi sanki, sonra bir soru sekansi daha sart dagilim icin kabexnuf: gazilliyi sadece oynamak yetmiyor, cok iyi anlaˆ mak da gerekli ovncylmz: evet biz iyi biliriz korayla:) tez: eski meslegim tercumanlˆ‰k.. 8 vugraphzpv: ben 4 de kalˆ‰rlar die dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nm ˆ…ˆ tˆ…m ama hobakan: o yˆ…zden konuˆ ˆ‰lmayan rengi tercih etti Pekˆ en.. normal olarak:) tez: kagit karissin diye oynuyor:).. A ovncylmz: yeni gordugum bir sey 1M-1nt-2c-2d den sonra 2nt nin teki olmayan herhangi bir iyi el oynanmasi.. 6.. J..♣A..♣Q..♣T.. 9.. 9.. 7.. Q..♠T © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ Board NS: EW: o 4 c 4 © © 4 this/total IMPs Djarum 140 BTN 142 620 620 N 4 N 4 4 9 ♠ AK 8 7 K Q10 9 6 4 3 10 10 10 9 8 7 ♣ ♠10 9 7 4 2 N ♠J53 A8 J52 W E J3 A74 S ♣10 6 4 3 ♣AK 9 8 ♠Q 6 4 6 7 2 KQ65 2 3 ♣Q J 7 5 2 6 620 W: Piskanto W p p p p N: Anthony S Closed S: Kamto N E 1 p 3 p 4 p © © © § © © ª § © § © ¨ § ¨ E: Franky K S 1♠ 3N p ª ¨ © § © © ¨ § ª §ª #1 E:: A,2,4, 3 #2 N:: 8,3,Q,2 #3 S:: 7,8,9,J #4 E:: 4,K,3,8 #5 S:: 6,4,A,5 #6 N:: K,2, 5, A #7 W:: 3, 4, 8,7 #8 N:: Q,5, 2, 6 #9 N:: T, 7,5, T #10 N:: K,J, J, 7 #11 N:: T,A,6,J jallerton : Good evening and welcome to our broadcast from Ireland steshome: Hello all jallerton: Your commentators are Ian Crorie, Martin Garvey and Sarah Teshome idc: Hi everyone, and Jeffrey & Sarah idc: the garve is late, as usual :) jallerton : http://www.bridgegreatbritain.org/ homeinternationals/2009/lmteams.htm for system cards idc: I’m afraid we don’t have published systems for the English team, so we’ll either need to guess steshome: A slam to start with! jallerton: or some of them anyway idc: or use the encyclopedic knowledge of Sarah and Jeffrey viren169: Now a great hand... - 28 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) jcomyn: 4H normal jcomyn: ah minor slam good roswolf: slamtime mariner1: -50 seems like a great result for NS mariner1: NS could get too high here....... mariner1: we all can be at times :) mdgraham: wow, grandy time..p henryb: 13 on top with no finesses mdgraham: always interesting to see how pairs cope with this kind of deal lestergold: i think the play exchasnges a genuine technical chance for a psychological chance uits got nothing to do with percentages jallerton: 2 Multi..1 jcomyn: and a c lead to cause problems pkl: Yes - 4 looks like a nice contract. And no problems with both majors behaving..p viren169: 2 would have made it difficult for Kelly! jcomyn: that got what it deserved jcomyn: 3NT or 4S? toobad: 3n ralfwil: I like 2 on E. I have seen many players bid 1♠ on E here om BBO jcomyn: yes awful isnt it roswolf: 6 looks to be fairly easy to bid sharkirl: may find it difficult to get there with concentration mariner1: 2♣ is my call with S.......... sybarra: a quiet raise to 2 .... mariner1: part score special here too diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 92, SCOTLAND 91, ENGLAND 79, CBAI 71, IRELAND 68, WALES 45 **** sharkirl: was afraid of that..1♠..p sharkirl: positive bid in ♣s would make it easier roswolf: well both n +s have some extras but the splinter wont excite north ralfwil: What about 3♠ on W?..3 sharkirl: south must go on now mariner1: she has too much for 2 idc: Due to normal first round start-up glitches, we’ve missed a few boards, but with luck..p jallerton: I believe that EW play 5-card majors, strong NT, possibly also 2 opener 18-19 balanced. capercliff: do they have more than one way to show? If not 2 is pretty tame thegarve : looks a bit too defensive and no ruffing value for a vul 2S jallerton: 3NT is the best chance of game EW ¨ © ¨ © ¨ © ¨ © © © ¨ © - 29 - idc: East hand is borderline try I guess - playing with me it’s not but lots of vul weak twos will give play for game thegarve: 2NT hre surely? capercliff: I would have thought jallerton: I think they may be playing 2 ranges of weak 2 jallerton: this being the weaker variety capercliff: so this is the rubbish one? pkl: You are contemplating the fourth club by N? Will it cause problems? jcomyn: well I cant see anyway S will lead a C ralfwil: And I dont like Blackwood with a void! roswolf: yes an advantage that 2/1 has roswolf: mid you south should cue now roswolf: mind roswolf: 4♠ would be my choice roswolf: but 4nt is not bad too on this hand sybarra: cue raise mariner1: interesting 2♣ showing ♣ here,,,,,,,,, not seen that in a long time diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 92, SCOTLAND 91, ENGLAND 79, CBAI 71, IRELAND 68, WALES 45 **** lestergold: is 1c prom,ising clubs idc: East’s minors don’t make 4M look attractive but 3NT is a possibility..3N jcomyn: you MIGHT get away with it in the club on a Monday night Walddk7: Welcome to Peter Goodman sybarra: hello Peter mariner1: she has a limit raise + lestergold : it reminds me of the children’s playgropuind song...... my clubs are better than ur clubs.... mariner1: well the auction stopped a mistake by W or N too petepunt: hi all..p thegarve: 4th highest longest and strongest mariner1: and they stayed low,,,,,, well done here roswolf: pass is wet..4 sharkirl: R.O.I. bid the 6 viren169: I expected a little more bidding on this hand... perhaps the girls are running out of steam! ..p jcomyn: Hi peter toobad: what nt are ns playing? sybarra: Wales probably just picked up a nice score on the last hand ..p jcomyn: well done competent bidding ralfwil: and without a ♣ lead, E must not find ¨ © ¨ Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) Q- ©J is falling jcomyn: that 3-0 is annoying though sharkirl: certainly worth a 4♠ bid santyclz: E-w seem to be playing weak nt’s not vul and strong vul (see bd 18). lestergold: and of course they are can only lose 2c and a spade mariner1: 2♣ could be good or bad depending....... not clear here toobad: hmm..p roswolf: will the welsh pair do so? mariner1: seh might make 4 however that needs defensive help mariner1: she lestergold: and n/s can also make 3n ralfwil: best contract..♣A lestergold: but this isnt junior bridge vugraphzms: 1♣ shows 2+ clubs tihas: S moght just check for the aces and hope that there must be good chances to create enough tricks. It deos not necessarily take a lot of science to bid such grands..♣2 jcomyn: aand thats that henryb: 5N should find the ♣K..♣4 diumraid: **** LIVE LADY MILNE SCORES **** IN RUNNING **** N-IRELAND 34, IRELAND 32, SCOTLAND 31, ENGLAND 30, CBAI 30, WALES 23 jcomyn: not if 3T makes petepunt : saw the swings and roundabouts, many would overcall 2♠, but vul was wrong.. 3 thegarve: only 1 off so no big deal..♠8 jallerton: sharp double from E idc: the Scottish ladies have done a lot of protecting this match ralfwil: It cannot be difficult to find the in the defence mariner1: ty Mark idc: I think they may have been playing too much pairs..♠3 idc: mind you, any pairs is too much jcomyn: must lead small from W lestergold: yes which means that in practice it is often a genuine suit since its only used otherwise when the distribution iforces it mdgraham: missed next door - poor effort..♠Q sharkirl: was awkward for N over splinter toobad: 3 on ice on that lead..♠2 capercliff: maybe N felt 41c had play, but very risky.. 7 capercliff: 4♣ © ¨ © capercliff: this might drift 2 off actually thegarve: might well have made kx of ¨ is a good holding thegarve: East will cash out capercliff: is there any hurry? idc: well, one way to try for -2 is cash out then ♠ ruff & discard capercliff: partner has to have something to open 2 , if not a lot idc : declarer’s trump position starts to look fragile - though as the cards lie she should escape ok thegarve : people get worried in a doubled contracr and like to see the finishing line henryb: lazy bidding by N in the other room.. 8 capercliff: if E doesnt cash out, there is a problem with entries.. 9 jcomyn: good start toobad: lead shd mean Kd first santyclz: 6 (for style points if nothing else). jcomyn: board 2 2S played both ways.. J ketoprak: new leader.. mariner1: doing well.. 4 idc: good - high ♠ to show something in .. K jallerton: ♠J suit preference for jcomyn: gone now jcomyn: thought she would ruff a S.. 3 ketoprak: 23 imps for 3 boards... ralfwil: Now she is down. There is a small indication only 2♣ on S.. 8..♠6..♠4 viren169: Looks like it is very close at the top..♠ A jcomyn: of course NON-vul v Vul petepunt : sheila shea, liz commins, patricai kelly, sandra newell for specs who asked toobad: why wd someone look for a ruff with no trump? sybarra: ahead in the race ..♠5 toobad: first blood.. K jcomyn: I think NI will be in game in open room ralfwil: and both -2! toobad: me too.. 2 mariner1: now EW score 3 trump tricks..♣5.. A..♣3 jcomyn: no I thought W would ruff back to her hand and lead small D.. 4 toobad: a clear error from E there thegarve: the results on the website have not been updated since last night..♣8 jcomyn: maybe we have a 6-way tie..♣7.. Q capercliff: claim time.. 5.. 2..♣6.. T.. 7.. 5 ¨ © © ¨ ¨ © © ©¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © © ¨ © © ¨ ¨ - 30 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) thegarve: Noah’s ark scores so far sybarra: she will run home with 8 tricks ..♣T sybarra: and S says: I thoght I had a good hand : (..♠K..♠J..♣J..♠7 mariner1: she had what she bid diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 90, N-IRELAND 89, ENGLAND 78, CBAI 72, IRELAND 71, WALES 56 **** ketoprak: well played.. T.. A.. 6.. J ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ Board 5 NS: EW: o 5 x N -3 c 2♠ S 2 © 5 this/total IMPs BTN 142 Djarum 14 154 800 110 7 ♠10 9-8 A84 9 6-5 10 9 5 4 3 2 7 ♣A96 ♠8 6 3 2 N ♠A 7 QJ53 10 6 W E KQ6 A J87 S ♣8 7 ♣K 5 4 3 2 ♠KQ J 954 5 4 K972 4 6 ♣ Q J10 6 140 W: A HAITANI W p p p X N: J BOJOH Open E: OCTAVIAN S: L GONTHA N E S p 1N 2 2♠ p 3 4 p 4♠ 5 p p p p p © © ¨ © ¨ ª ¨ § §© § ¨ © ¨ ª ¨ § © ¨ª© ¨ ¨ ª § ¨ © ¨ ª ¨ © ª © ª © § #1 E:: A, 2, 6,2 #2 S:: 4,2,T,A #3 E:: 7,K,3, 3 #4 S:: Q,8,6,K #5 E:: 3,T,7,A #6 N:: 4,8, 7, Q #7 S:: J, 3, 9,2 #8 W:: 6, 5, 6, 5 #9 E:: 7, 9, K,9 #10 S:: K,5,4,T #11 S:: Q,8, T, 4 #12 S:: 9, J,A, 5 #13 N:: 8, J, J, Q MolvaM: evet kapyan Yalˆ§ˆ‰n Atabey miˆ . gˆ …venilir kaynaklardan bilgi geldi. MolvaM: kaptan arigun: da arigun: 4 de ♠ kupu ile batiyor arigun: neyse ilginc olabilecek bir el sakin gecti vugraphzpv: 1.den 4♣ aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰na batˆ‰ nˆ‰n 5♣ i normal mi alichengiz: Ziya Atilla ve Yusuf kahyaoˆ lu henˆ …z yeniler alichengiz: karo ˆ§ek ˆ§ak dˆ…ˆ erse Q gerek yok piki bilmeˆ e tez: 1 nt acan oyuncunu eli iyiyse transferi kirar alichengiz: 5 ns, 2♠ ew fahir: kˆ¶r dam empas dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda 6 kˆ¶r iyi ¨ © © - 31 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) kontrat ama batˆ‰yor alichengiz: 3 NS’a hobakan : Rua Karo yerine Rua Pik olsa zor durumda kalabilirdi.. MolvaM: 5♣ deklaresi belki de exclusion deˆ il sadece kˆ…bid olabilir. MolvaM: emin deˆ iliz ama sonuˆ§ olarak normal bir kontrata gelindi hobakan: ama yˆ‰ldˆ‰z oyuncular bazen bˆ¶ yle yaparlar.. wd Dilek Yavaˆ :) arigun: bu elden muhtemelen 11 imp senyorlere gelecek alichengiz : Merhaba Herkese, kolay gelsin Cengiz bey alichengiz: 3. eldeki, gˆ…zel ˆ lem deklarasyonun ˆ¶dˆ…lˆ… 13 IMP oldu, Kolbastˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰ hemen ˆ¶ne geˆ§ti ovncylmz: 3d=16-18 dengeli, 3h=15-17 6+♠, 3sp= 18-19 6+♠, 3nt=19-21 dengeli gibi..p MolvaM: bu el ilginˆ§ ve swing potansiyeli iˆ§ eriyor alichengiz: ine de, yapˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ zon ˆ lem, her zaman iyidir alichengiz: ne olur ne olmaz alichengiz: Yine de MolvaM: sadece 6 implik te olsa arigun: 3nt denirse tek cikilmaz heralde :) ..1N..11-14 arigun: bence makul ovncylmz: 2taraf da bu kartlara uyduktan sonra yuzdeler degisiyor ama degil mi? alichengiz: 5 ♠ ˆ§akasˆ‰ ile batˆ‰yor alichengiz: deˆ iˆ iyor tabi, konuˆ uluncada deˆ iˆ iyor ovncylmz: mesela 2 taraf da 2 tur trefle uydu ovncylmz: dogu 3.trefli verdi:) alichengiz: genel anlamda, dˆ‰ˆ arˆ‰da ˆ§ift sayˆ‰da kart varsa partaj olma olasˆ‰lˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ d ˆ…ˆ ˆ…k oluyor ovncylmz: simdi trefl vale %50 olasilikla doguda, yani sans tez: ornegin 1nt 4♣ 4 = u tuttum elim iyi alichengiz: tabi ki durmak olanaksˆ‰z 5 ’de fahir: ancak pik alˆ‰nmazsa yapˆ‰labilir ergur: artˆ‰k 6 oynamazlar hobakan: ˆ§ok doˆ ru.. 5 Cl cue-bid ˆ…zerine 5 Karo duymuˆ olabilir. MolvaM: fikret 4lˆ… karo gˆ¶sterincde haldun max el ile yaparˆ‰m belki dedi ama olmadˆ‰ arigun: merhabalar teskkurler alichengiz: 4 EW ovncylmz: tabi ki..2 ..M‘s © © ¨ ¨© © ¨ © emre kaya: selamlar alichengiz: 3nt yok, 5♣ yapˆ‰labilir mi? ergur: hg emre hobakan: diˆ er masada 1 trefl-1 karonun geliˆ imi ˆ¶nem kazanmˆ‰ˆ oldu bu durumda hobakan: muhtemel 4 kˆ¶r kontarˆ‰ var. hobakan: pik kupu ile batmakta hobakan: karo ataˆ ˆ‰na da batar MolvaM: bu devirde ceza kontru atana saygˆ‰ gˆ ¶stermek gerek alichengiz: ns ♠ alichengiz: 4♠ MolvaM: NT limitleri 15-17 bile olsa ˆ¶zellikle 5li renk varken bir puan iskonto yapmak makul..p MolvaM: 1♠ aˆ§mazmˆ‰ydˆ‰nˆ‰z? MolvaM: ataˆ§ ˆ‰n eli ile alichengiz: tek sayˆ‰da kart varsa 3-2 4-3 daˆ ˆ ‰lma olasˆ‰lˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ yˆ…ksek oluyor ovncylmz: kuzeyden uyandirir miydiniz? tez: 1nt 4♣ 4 dendikten sonraki 4nt uzerinden keykart sorusu MolvaM: 17 puanlˆ‰k zon denir mi? MolvaM: bence zor alichengiz: ˆ iganˆ‰m var paˆ am 22 oldum sas2nt: uygun zon durumunda 4♠ demelitdi..2♠ ..p tez: acmazdim tez: 2 el once defansta kaybedilen 1 imp bence sonraki eli etkiledi emre kaya: A grubunda toplam 20 takim var alichengiz: 6♣ ise hiˆ§ batmˆ‰yor alichengiz: Seyirci herˆ eyi gˆ¶rˆ…yor :) vulkan: dˆ…z bir bord, pik ataˆ ˆ‰na +1 olacak alichengiz: ˆ imdi deneme konuˆ masˆ‰ yaparsa gelmeleri zor, gˆ¶nderirse gelirler ancak sas2nt : 7-4 ve 8 adet renklerle eli 1 seferde anlatmak gerekir..3 alichengiz: Merhaba Emre :) hobakan: kˆ‰saca:) 5-4 ile majˆ¶rler demek bu el iˆ§in pek iyi olmayacak sanˆ‰rˆ‰m. fahir: 6 trefl oynanmasˆ‰ imkansˆ‰z..p alichengiz: EW’te koz yok MolvaM: hdoˆ al olarak her iki rakip konuˆ tuˆ una gˆ¶re taraflar puanlarˆ‰n aˆ aˆ ˆ‰ yukarˆ‰ eˆ it daˆ ˆ‰ldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ biliyorlar tez: lerim olsa acardˆ‰m..♠ lerimi nasˆ‰lsa gˆ¶sterirdim..4 tez: lerim olsa baˆ tan aˆ§ˆ‰p kurtulurdum ovncylmz: tezcan sen diger masada operasyonu tamamlamis:) ovncylmz: kuzey guney biraz pasif davrandilar bence © © ¨ © © © - 32 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) alichengiz: 3♣ baˆ arˆ‰lˆ‰ oldu, dengeli eliyle Dilek konuˆ amadˆ‰, ama Nihal uyandˆ‰rmalˆ ‰, eli uyandˆ‰rmak iˆ§in mˆ…kemmel, dbl iyiydi alichengiz: ˆ imdi bi dbl daha? imkansˆ‰z deˆ il ama ... arigun: davet edilirse zam :)..p alichengiz: Nafiz Salvo, 1 Major sekansˆ‰nda Gazzilli ve Zayˆ‰f nt onuyorlar onun dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ nda 2/1 tabanlˆ‰ sistemleri alichengiz: kˆ¶r 3. ’ya gider 6♣ garanti, Antar tarafˆ‰ndan tabi ki alichengiz: 3 aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰rsa kuzey 4 der ama koz kalitesi 3 aˆ§maˆ a elveriˆ li deˆ il, zon durumu nedeni ile aˆ§mˆ‰ˆ olmalˆ‰ alichengiz: 3♣ oynayabilirlerse iyi ama MolvaM: bu zonda anter 4 seviyesine ˆ§ˆ‰kmak istemez alichengiz: takˆ‰m maˆ§ˆ‰nda ˆ¶yle ˆ akalar hoˆ olmaz MolvaM: netekim MolvaM: 3nt dense idi ˆ ˆ…kriye merzenin bir ara kontr demesi gerekecekti..4♠ MolvaM: ve ortak atak edene kadar oldukˆ§a sˆ‰ kˆ‰ntˆ‰lˆ‰ bir 30 saniye geˆ§ecekti ovncylmz : bu ellerle 3c acmiyor muyuz? ne dusunuyosunuz ovncylmz: ortagim guneydeki elle pas gecebiliyorsa kuzeyden uyandirmam gerekebilir:) alichengiz: 6-4 major vardˆ‰ Tez, burada da ayn ˆ‰ mˆ‰ oynuyorsun? arigun: hayati hosgeldin :)..p ergur: hb:) alichengiz: 2♣ 2 ye xfer davet sekansˆ‰ alichengiz: alttan geˆ§erse J pike o da batar :) relrikas: 6♣ ufak pik atagina batiyor zaten de konu dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ zaten fahir: Kolbastˆ‰ iˆ§in bence iyi bir skor hobakan: Vahapoˆ lu ekstra deˆ erler vaat etmek iˆ§in cue-vid yapˆ‰p 4 Kˆ¶r dedi sanˆ‰rˆ‰m. arigun : hele hele senyor abilerimizin attigi konturlara :) ergur: oynayacaklar:) alichengiz: neyse buldular en iyi kozlarˆ‰nˆ‰ vugraphzpv : iki takˆ‰mda birbirine nazik davranˆ‰yor bu maˆ§ta..5 vugraphzpv: zon durumundan ˆ§ekinmiˆ galiba kˆ‰rmˆ‰zˆ‰ya beyazda alichengiz: 3 rengede fit veriyor, rakip renk kˆ‰ sa alichengiz: kaˆ§ takˆ‰m dˆ…ˆ ecek bugˆ…n? tez: o oyuncunun tercihi oyleydi.saygi duyarim © ¨ ¨ © - 33 - alichengiz: 3♠ diyebilir Tugbars MolvaM: bˆ¶ylesi daha stressiz..p MolvaM: madem 2♠ diyecekti 1 tur ˆ¶nce neden demedi? ¨ alichengiz: 2 GF checkback, GF ellerle emre kaya : bu gunun sonunda ilk 9 siradaki takimlar A grubunda kalacak diger 11 takim ise B grubuna dusecekler MolvaM: evet. senyˆ¶rden kontr yiyen iflah olmaz alichengiz: daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰m uygun, +1 yaplabiliyor alichengiz : 2,5 ♠ eli vardˆ‰ baˆ tan 2 dedi, rakip renk kˆ‰sa olunca diyebilir diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ… ndˆ…m alichengiz: Evren paˆ a ile muhabbetiniz oldu mu Murat bey :) atak edilirse 1000 iceri:)..p tez: tez : kubac in elindeki adedi..uyandirmayi engelliyor hobakan: Ozcan Rusinow stili atak etti. ergur: kolay bir 3nt.. alichengiz: 4 sorunsuz..p alichengiz : koz ˆ§ekip pik ˆ§akˆ‰nca veya karolarˆ‰ verip eli saˆ layˆ‰nca kolaylˆ‰kla oluyor ovncylmz: dbl mi atardiniz? vulkan: Babaˆ§’ˆ‰n eliyle 2 le uyandˆ‰rma taraftarˆ‰ olan var mˆ‰:) tez: ♠ atagindan sonra tek care empasi..p MolvaM: dikkat murat: selam herkese..p MolvaM: ˆ…mit tarhan ortakta 4lˆ… trefl umdu ˆ ¶nceki geliˆ melere bakarak MolvaM: ama kandemir’in eli maalesef tek renkli idi arigun: 15 no’lu elde diger masada yanlis bir anlasma oldu azfena 5 oynadi arigun: tezcan sen hosgeldin tez: selam:)hoˆ bulduk tez: ♣ kozu yokoldu hobakan: bu stilde atak ettiˆ iniz onˆ¶rˆ…n bir ˆ …stˆ…nˆ… vaat ediyorsunuz. Walddk9: merhaba murat.. A alichengiz: 3 B den gelecek 12 takˆ‰m, yarˆ‰n 6 dˆ…ˆ ecek 2 ˆ§ˆ‰kacak sanˆ‰rˆ‰m alichengiz: evet -100 yerine 500 gravity: Merhabalar Rusya dan :) MolvaM: ayrˆ‰ca sˆ…rekli koz defansˆ‰na 4 pik olmayabilir de MolvaM: gerˆ§i nevzatˆ‰n pik ruasˆ‰nˆ‰ atak etmesini bekleyemeyiz ama MolvaM: 3♣ ’e katˆ‰lˆ‰yor musunuz?.. 2 alichengiz: pik ˆ§akasˆ‰ ile 5 batˆ‰nca ˆ§ok ¨ © © ¨ © © ¨ ¨ ¨ © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) bˆ…yˆ…k bir swing olmaz relrikas: 6 e 6♠ dememek ˆ§ok zor bence 300 fark gelebilir alichengiz: evet oluyor sas2nt: 1 overcall edilmeseydi gˆ…ney 1’h diyecekti serap 4♠ diyebilirdi.. 6 arigun: o da cok zor olmayacak ovncylmz: irfanin eliyle cakinca genelde pik dam guneyde olur, ortakta da QJXXX kor cikar, bi de alakasiz bir trefl puani:) alichengiz: koz paslarˆ‰ iˆ§in yeterli antre yok tez: selam murat..hosgeldin.. 2 emre kaya: B grubunun ilk 3 takimi ise A grubuna dahil olacak yani yarin A grubunda 12 takim mucadele edecek relrikas: as karo karo oynarsa promosyonu onler ve kontrat tam olur bakalˆ‰m safety oyun gorecekmiyiz..♠4 alichengiz: dbl 3♠ iˆ§in piklerim kˆ¶tˆ… ve gˆ… cˆ…m az alichengiz: tek parmak yazarsan geˆ§ kalˆ‰rsˆ‰ n :) MolvaM: trefl’e rua ile baˆ lamasˆ‰ gerekirdi deklaran ˆ‰n kabexnuf: hic antre yok, kalite de cok iyi degil, en azindan bir antre olsun..♠2 ovncylmz: 7321? AJ10XXXX MolvaM: selamlar kabexnuf: acilabilir tabiki kabexnuf: selamlar vugraphzpv: bence beyaza beyazda anca aˆ§ar:) alichengiz: 4-4 koza oynarken uzun renk saˆ lanˆ ‰r, salvo pik ˆ…zerine oynayacaktˆ‰r ovncylmz: KQ9XX?:) ergur: slm hg gravity: becne kolbasyi icin kotu olacak,1kˆ¶r acilik 6kˆ¶r e 6pik baraji olmasi muhtemel alichengiz: -1 makul ovncylmz: +1 falan yaptirir uzulursun:)..♠T relrikas: karo !V MolvaM: ben katˆ‰lmˆ‰yorum..♠A ovncylmz: dbl icin de 3lu koru var, 5li piki var.. zaten zannedersem ne ile uyandirsam diye dusunurken el pasa gidiyor bazen bu ellerde alichengiz: 6 lˆ‰ tekle tutana karˆ ˆ‰ oynayacak kalitede olamsˆ‰ lazˆ‰m, 1 ♠ demekle 3 ♠ demek aynˆ‰ ˆ ey deˆ il alichengiz : diˆ er masada 1 2 ♣ 3 diye giderse konuˆ ma 6 makul bir ihale hobakan : ˆ ˆ¶le cevaplayayˆ‰m: bizler bir alttaki onˆ¶rˆ… vaad ediyoruz, diˆ er stil bir ˆ…st arigun: merak eden izleyicile icin azfena takiminin © © ¨ ¨ © © © ismi oyuncularinin basharflerinden olusuyor..♠7 tez: ♣ devamina oyun batacak fahir : selam ˆ mer sˆ‰cak Antalyadan oraya selamlar murat: hoˆ bulduk tez. 2eski genˆ§ milli, 2 genˆ§ milli bir a milli toplandˆ‰k otelin lobisinde. ..♠ K tez: ortagˆ‰n rengi tek.sevimsiz alichengiz: Merhaba tez: tercan 3 defos ederse..♠3 alichengiz: tarzˆ‰m ˆ¶yle MolvaM: ˆ§ˆ…nkˆ… doˆ uda trefl J10xx olabilirdi ve o zaman empas ile onlarˆ‰ toplayabilirdi tez: yada ♠ tabiki.. 3 alichengiz: zon yoktu elde, en ˆ anslˆ‰sˆ‰ 5♣ o da karolar kˆ¶tˆ… daˆ ˆ‰ldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in batˆ‰ yor tez: 5♣ oynayabilseler sanslari vardi ovncylmz: hmm..♣Q..♣8..♣6 vugraphzpv: ruasˆ‰nˆ‰ almak istemedi ovncylmz: ilk maclari nolmus bu iki takimin? vugraphzpv: ufak karo gelince Muhammet onˆ¶r var sandˆ‰ galiba alichengiz: 3♠ 4♠ olur 3pik denirse trajedi hobakan : kˆ¶r partaj olsa bir umut vardˆ‰ dekalaran iˆ§in MolvaM: ama bu elde farketmiyor begse: bu gibi durumlarda ortagˆ‰n koz seˆ§ mesi iˆ§in 2nt oynanˆ‰yor tabii oda naturel 2nt yi kaybettirir sas2nt : 1 diye araya girip bir daha konuˆ mayan bir el kime yardˆ‰mcˆ‰ olur..♣K tez: tamamina erdirmis olur:) tez: milsiz yok desene fahir: herkese merhaba fahir: bugˆ…n swiss maˆ§larˆ‰ baˆ ladˆ‰ fahir: A grubunda 34 B grubunda 33 takˆ‰m mˆ …cadele ediyor hobakan: ancak ˆ imdi birinin kupunu yiyerek battˆ‰(karo veya pikten) murat: :)..♣3 fahir: gˆ…n sonunda A dan 16 B den 4 takˆ‰m yarˆ‰n A grubunda devam edecek alichengiz: tek baˆ ˆ‰na zor bu iˆ alichengiz: kˆ¶rle ˆ§ˆ‰karsa -1..♣T ergur: nevzat abinin 3cl tercihinin acˆ‰klamasˆ ‰ varmˆ‰ baˆ kanˆ‰m tez: zonsuz 3 iceri..150..♣7 alichengiz: dummy reversal’a yˆ¶nelip kˆ‰sa koz tarafˆ‰nˆ‰ saˆ layabilir veya ˆ§apraz ˆ§aka murat: Likom takˆ‰mˆ‰ turnuvanˆ‰n favorilerinden.. Bugˆ…n iyi de bir baˆ langˆ‰ˆ§ yaptˆ‰lar..♣A © ¨ © © - 34 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) MolvaM: gene de kontrsuz atlatmalarˆ‰ ˆ ans kabexnuf: burda zon durumundan ziyade MolvaM: evet bazˆ‰ seyircilerimizin de belirttiˆ i gibi rakip 4-4 kˆ¶r fiti bulmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰na gˆ¶re ortakta kˆ¶r 5li olmalˆ‰.. 4 ergur: = oldu alichengiz: 2 tur koz ve As pik pik gravity: ˆ ˆ le tatilim bitti,ben biraz gidip beton dˆ ¶keyim,sizlere iyi seyirler,turnuvada oynayan arkadaslara basarilar :) alichengiz: kozu denerse -2.. 8 MolvaM: demek kˆ¶r atak etmek gerek.. 7 tez: hatice ozgur filiz uygan yeni ortakliklardan..iyi gidiyorlar.. Q murat: ˆ in’de bizi mutlu ettiler ˆ§ok kabexnuf : ortak bilmeli ona gore 3nt deyip dememeyi dusunmeli MolvaM: ama her zaman bu kadar net dˆ…ˆ ˆ… nemeyebiliyor insan..♣J.. 3 MolvaM: genel briˆ§ tekniˆ i ˆ…zerine akademik 1 gˆ¶zlemdi sadece :)I..♣9 fahir: swiss oynandˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in bir sonraki maˆ §ta kimlerin oynayacaˆ ˆ‰ ancak maˆ§lar sonuˆ§ lanˆ‰nca belli oluyor..♣2 MolvaM: sayˆ‰lkan takˆ‰mˆ‰ yˆ…klˆ…ce bir swing almak ˆ…zere..♠6 alichengiz: hˆ‰mm :) tez: ♣ cakayi onlemek mumkun degil MolvaM : tabii gˆ…ney kontr atˆ‰p onlarˆ‰ batan bir 3 treflden olan bir 3 kˆ¶re kaˆ§ˆ‰ rmayayˆ‰m diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ndˆ….. 5 alichengiz: son durum : KOLBASTˆ 250 alichengiz: Noname1 242 alichengiz: PEKˆ EN 239 alichengiz: MATRIX 238 begse: kˆ¶r oynayˆ‰p 6 lˆ‰ cakmasˆ‰ lazˆ‰m alichengiz: SENYˆ R Mˆ LLˆ 237 alichengiz: Merhaba Murat bey :).. 6 fahir: gˆ…nde en az 1 kere de bayanlar ˆ ampiyonas ˆ‰ndan maˆ§ vermeye ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ acaˆ ˆ‰z..♠5 tez: ♣ as alˆ‰p tez : oyuncular masada oynuyor..yanlarinda bilgisayar operatoru var..oyuncular bilgisayari gormuyorlar.. 7 vulkan : ˆ§ok doˆ ru ama, ezber iki onˆ¶rlˆ… yerden baˆ lamak alichengiz: Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran 226 relrikas: ˆ¶mer kolay gelsin rusya 2li de gˆ¶rˆ…ˆ mek ˆ…zere.. 9 alichengiz: Mˆ DYAT BELEDˆ YESˆ 226 tez: atagi ile ♠ atagi arasinda tam 7 el fark oldu.. K ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ - 35 - © vugraphzpv: mola verildi sas2nt: ilk tur pas geˆ§tin uygun zon durumunda ¨ ortagˆ‰n 2 sefer pik konuˆ tu bari 3♠ veya 3 de tez: sen ne atak ederdin diye sormayin..saniyorum atak ederdim tez: 5 dakika ara kendime alichengiz: ZABUNOˆ LU 225.. 9 begse: 9 lu cakˆ‰nca ufak oynuyor tez: ♠ cekice.. K alichengiz : 8 takˆ‰m son 2 maˆ§ bu maˆ§la birlikte alichengiz: bˆ¶ylede olur, yeni partnerlik dˆ¶nˆ… ˆ ˆ… bulamadˆ‰.. 5 MolvaM: rakipte 18-10 varken bize zon yoktur diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…lebilir sevgili seyirciler.. 4.. T..♠Q..♠8 tez: cekince rakibi sqz olmasˆ‰ˆ‰ umit ediyor.. T..♣4 tez: rua oynasaydi sorun vardi alichengiz: 3. gˆ…n 3. maˆ§lar sonundaki durum iˆ§in © ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) Board 5 NS: EW: o 5 x N -3 c 2♠ S 2 © 5 this/total IMPs Djarum 14 154 BTN 142 800 110 7 ♠10 9-8 A84 9 6-5 10 9 5 4 3 2 7 ♣A96 ♠8 6 3 2 N ♠A 7 QJ53 10 6 W E KQ6 A J87 S ♣8 7 ♣K 5 4 3 2 ♠KQ J 954 5 4 K972 4 6 ♣ Q J10 6 140 W: Piskanto W X p N: Anthony S Closed S: Kamto N E p 1♣ 2♣ p p p § © § ¨ ª ª¨ § E: Franky K S 1♠ 2♠ ª ª ¨ ª § ª § ª ¨ #1 W:: 8,A,2,T #2 N:: T,7,4,2 #3 N:: 4,6,K,5 #4 S:: K,3, 2, A #5 E:: K,Q,7,6 #6 E:: 3,J, 6, 9 #7 W:: 6,T,A, 5 #8 S:: Q,8, 3,7 #9 S:: J, Q,4, 4 tihas: yes, it looks like the wrong guy took the captainship and S could not be sure of the ace count afterwards..♠9.. J.. A..♣5.. 8.. J..♠ J.. Q mdgraham: veyr much so - plenty of room to find out more.Gave poor South no chance. idc: is there a flood to come then? pkl: Hey... that was eleven tricks, I presume? viren169: Now the dreaded 4441 hand! jcomyn: but 4s this time viren169: Pass or open here? ralfwil: I don´·t think E will lead a ♠ against 3nt. too risky roswolf: well true roswolf: this might be feisty diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 76, SCOTLAND 71, ENGLAND 61, IRELAND 59, CBAI 58, WALES 31 **** © © © © ¨ mariner1: 4♠ simple here idc: we’ll be able to catch up on the results of them later (open the Movie box at the bottom right)..p pkl: I’d pass - also if the K was in clubs petepunt: a weak 2♠ or not ? sybarra: not for me mariner1: well the 4 decision was worth 11 imps......... thegarve: 2 by 2s..1♣ idc: to follow the two by two I mean viren169: More difficult if North had opened... sybarra: oh well jcomyn: no not headed by J jcomyn: and W will take off sybarra: its not even as if the suit is solid to the J ralfwil: looks like a multi on N roswolf: now e/w will need metods to get to the game sharkirl: 4 by e/w would be good thegarve: the grand slam was missed in the other room too....the wooden spoon clash santyclz: Hmmm. How are the running scores showing such different totals? diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 76, SCOTLAND 71, ENGLAND 61, IRELAND 59, CBAI 58, WALES 31 **** mariner1: EW have a save lestergold: and south shouldthird in hand bid it mariner1: yes E could bid 2 if not 3 lestergold: 4s my girl petepunt: fav vul, 1st or3rd. but still tempted in 2nd..1♠ roswolf: and south may try a transfer to clubs tihas: still, N had described balanced hand and driven to slam, so there was a case of adding one more for the road, because S actually hadnt shown a lot in the bidding.. tihas: but its tough at the table to do so henryb: 1 = less than 16 points, no 5 card or longer major tihas: I think N with balanced hand should have constrained to showing his values sharkirl: will they compete? thegarve: its the 4th match of six on a 25VP scale and this is the second half of a match lestergold: lets non vul opps in and puts pard under too much pressure mariner1: N does not need much for slam here....... KQx ♣ might do it,,,,,,, mariner1: and A © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ - 36 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) jallerton: strong NT..2♣ viren169: Border line for me... lestergold: how will pard know that her qj to 4 clubs is worth three tricks jallerton: NS play Acol, weak NT, Multi 2 ..p sybarra: I dont criticize the bid, its just not my style thegarve: 5th match sharkirl: that was the danger - 2 might be just a balancing bid..2♠ roswolf: wonder what 2 specifically shows? sharkirl : a bid showing both majors gives a second chance vugraphzms: h and s mdgraham: too difficult - if partner jumps to the six-level, he should know what he is doing ..p steshome: I thought E/W were playing a weak NT, but we might have a chance to find out soon jallerton: S had an interesting decision: pass, double, 3 or 2NT idc: Fearless protecting at teams, vul v not petepunt: south had tough bids, final pass seems about right sharkirl: Irish girls are off to a good start lestergold: east should have been in now having failed to find a preempt on thefirst round mariner1: no chance slam tried here now....... 4♠ and out soon lestergold: this is give ur opps free reign to walk all over you bridge jcomyn: my sentiments - that leaves D out of it God gave us 12pts to open..p jcomyn: okay SK but 4-card H viren169: looks like 10 tricks mariner1: agreed Mike, E holding 5 pts and NV vs RED in 3rd needs to JAM as soon as mariner1: she can lestergold: unless they walk all over themselves that is mariner1: wow ralfwil: now S has to bid 3 ..p toobad : with only 2 clubs and no diamonds, South would have 11 major suit cards!! jcomyn: too true mariner1: 4 or more here Walddk4: What was the result on 4? mariner1: bid mistake here lestergold: nlow shell balanmce!!! mariner1: big mariner1: they must not play 2♣ forcing to game lestergold: no she has maintained a consistent silence absurd on the first two occaqsions worth a ¨ © © © - 37 - © brilliancy prize on the third!! lestergold: or maybe she is having an attack of lock jaw or lost her bidding box jallerton: Oh yes, I think you are right, Sarah. Their 1NT rebid is 15-17!..♣8 jcomyn: thats what the 2S did - keep opps out of trouble jcomyn: but why 3S by W sybarra: could only get in so much trouble in jcomyn: and didnt bid over 2D so bound to have a relatively balanced hand santyclz: Ahh, those are the vps not current imp standings. Duh. mariner1: 2 making 2 I think pkl : God does not play bridge - according to Niels Bohr, he doesn’t even roll dices..♣A thegarve: Its a shame that noe of the British Isles countries have any decent software to show hand records and boards - other countries such as Norway do it easily roswolf: in which case east might have bid 3 as i play over a strong nt that 2 promises good values..♣2 jallerton: trump switch now..♣T jcomyn: and the minors well placed ralfwil: I don´·t agree with this bidding. As I play N has shown a minimum jcomyn: still has a squeak - not a loud one but a squeak sybarra: just pesky that are 3/1 mariner1: she only needs one ruff in dummy so can lead tp hand and to dummy lestergold: this is why you have to open 4s with this tupe of hand lestergold: sometimes you go down thats life mariner1: meanwhile ROI has won the 1st 16 imps vs NI vugraphzms: 2d was art semi-positive lestergold : but not as bad as not bidding an infrangible throw against the wall icy idiot proof game idc: Stockdale might have put a red card on this, but she may have been worried about getting blood on her dress :)..♠T steshome: Yes I was wondering if double was a possibility. Still time for a trump switch jallerton: looks as though E is trying to put W in to get a ruff (or two if partner has ♠K10x sybarra: I think 3 ♠ to keep n/s out of minor suit partial ’ petepunt: prob 9 tricks ralfwil: Now N has got a chance. ¨ © © © © ¨ © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) jcomyn: no ralf the other way ralfwil: or S! capercliff: was the 10 from J10 or K10..♠7..♠4 viren169: No... but Gad does! jcomyn: they play 3C as good in H ralfwil: My lead had been a ♠ toobad: CBAI are also in 3h EW on board 18 jcomyn: maybe she thought D were 1.5 1.5 jcomyn: but isnt He the Supreme Dealer..♠2 jallerton: or stiff 10.. 4.. 6 capercliff: indeed steshome: Sorry I’m late capercliff: and that is why the 9 was right thegarve: now a red suit finesse or cash the safe © © 7 jallerton: Welcome back to Sarah Teshome jallerton: W not interested in gaining the lead - © © ¨ wants partner to lead trumps through.. K.. 5 petepunt: yes if W passes North will leb to 3 .. ♠K toobad: replicating their NS pair here roswolf: otherwise you can just double in 4th seat to show a major/minor 2 suiter with "balancing/ modest values" henryb: looks like 8 tricks..♠3 jallerton: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents /files/2008MindSportGamesBeijing%5CSystems/ U-28/England/SusanStockdale_FionaBrown.pdf.. 2..♠A jallerton: is convention card for EW idc: Great detective work Jeffrey, thx jallerton: as long as they haven’t changed too much in the last six months! idc: The early boards in this match have been quite swingy idc: we don’t know results at this table, but at the Open, England seem to have missed 3 slams in 5 boards idc: This hand should be some IMPs in the bag for England though petepunt: Leninsohl is used after T/O doubles to avoid getting to high when u are weak. mariner1: E did well to duck the however N knows E has the A mariner1: and E has no more so a again is safe thegarve: hi Sarah..♣K..♣Q..♣7..♣6 capercliff: the Scots now with a small lead, at least one Scottish team needs to beat the English this year:) mariner1: 2♣ is fine as long as you rebid 3 or 4 ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ thegarve: a low and a bit of worry now..♣3 jcomyn: a Leb 2NT then by S would make life awkward after 1D X sharkirl: scotland got to 4 against the R.O.I. as they showed both majors mariner1: as Mike says, you end in game always thegarve: duck and declarer is squeezed..♣J idc: ahha, well spotted idc: I predict ... she’s wishing she’d cashed out now capercliff: nice play the small jcomyn: apparently 3C is good in either major diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING from LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 52, IRELAND 50, CBAI 48, SCOTLAND 43, ENGLAND 42, WALES 35 ***** ralfwil: on another lead, there had been no option to find Q..♠6..♣9 jcomyn: home on a bike diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING from LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 52, IRELAND 50, CBAI 48, SCOTLAND 43, ENGLAND 42, WALES 35 ***** jcomyn: good heavens 3H both ways thegarve: I would dream of undertaking such a defence against the friendly Scots.. 6 sybarra: doesnt matter .. T.. A mdgraham: I remember missing a grand slam a couple of years ago when parrtner resolutely refused to cue-bid a KQ holding in my second suit. Infuriating ..♠5 thegarve: can use 6♣ as an entry..♠Q idc: still one hurdle to overcome... thegarve: if south had discarded a ♣ jallerton: N has to read the position jcomyn: sure is close ..♠8 henryb: maybe 9: heart finesse, ♠J, four rounds of and endplay East in .. 3 mariner1: so making 5 well done.. 7 sybarra: wandered around doing it but it worked ..♠J © ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ©¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ♠ - 38 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) Board NS: EW: o 4 c 4 6 © © this/total IMPs BTN 142 Djarum 154 450 450 S 5 N 5 6 9 ♠ A10 9 7 K10 7 11 10 A986 6 ♣AK 7 ♠Q5 3 N ♠K 7 6 4 2 A52 43 W E J K10 5 S ♣ Q10 8 6 4 3 ♣J52 ♠J8 3 6 Q J986 2 Q7 432 2 ♣9 7 450 W: A HAITANI W p p ¨ N: J BOJOH Open E: OCTAVIAN S: L GONTHA N E S p 2 4 p p #1 W:: J,A,5,2 © © © #2 N:: T,4,6,A vugraphzpv: teknik arˆ‰zadan dolayˆ‰ ˆ¶zˆ…r ¨ ¨ dileriz.. Q.. 4..♣4 tez: deniz turkoglu super defans yapti son durumda MolvaM: ˆ ampiyona stresi ve 224 seyircinin sizin hakkˆ‰nˆ‰zda yorum yapma stresi vugraphzpv: turnava ile ilgili detay bilgilere, mac sonuclari, butler vs. asagidaki linkten ulasabilirsiniz vugraphzpv: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ teams_event.php?event=184&stage=397 MolvaM: birkaˆ§ seyircimiz yayˆ‰nlanan maˆ§ larˆ‰n neye gˆ¶re belirlendiˆ ini sordu MolvaM: maˆ§lar TBF tarafˆ‰ndan belirleniyor ve muhtemelen MolvaM: farklˆ‰ takˆ‰mlara yer verme amaˆ§lˆ ‰ tez: n harfi calˆ‰ˆ mˆ‰yor klavyede ergur: muhtemel oyun gˆ…neye 1nt alichengiz: antalya’da harika bir bahar havasˆ‰ var, ikili ˆ ampiyona iˆ§in gelecekler, yanlarˆ‰ nda hafif bir mont veya kazak alsalar fena olmaz yine de :) ovncylmz: 3♠ 4♣ 4 5 de olabilir ¨ ¨ - 39 - alichengiz: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ teams_round.php?round=1506 alichengiz: 3nt ye gelirler sanˆ‰rˆ‰m alichengiz: yazmaktan ellere bakamˆ‰yorum yeterince alichengiz: part skor yarˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰olur bu elde alichengiz: Mola mˆ‰ Kenan? vugraphzpv: evet mola verildi vugraphzpv: eymen 7 elinde alichengiz: Tˆ…rkiye 4 lˆ… takˆ‰lar ˆ ampiyonas ˆ‰ 2009 yapˆ‰lˆ‰yor alichengiz: 4. gˆ…n bugˆ…n vugraphzpv: 5♠ ye dblˆ‰nˆ‰ aˆ§ˆ‰kladˆ‰ ortak ˆ§ˆ‰kmasˆ‰ diye atmˆ‰ˆ vugraphzpv: ˆ§ˆ‰kmasˆ‰n alichengiz: bugˆ…n A grubundan 6 B grubundan 2 takˆ‰m kalacak yarˆ‰n ki Danish final grubuna vugraphzpv: bu arada 15. board farklˆ‰ bir el gˆ ¶rˆ…nen el deˆ il alichengiz: ˆ ampiyona ile ilgili ayrˆ‰ntˆ‰ bilgi ve sonuˆ§lar iˆ§in, http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/ alichengiz: Merhaba Herkese :) hobakan: bu arada maˆ§ gayet dengeli gidiyor. alichengiz: Nasˆ‰lsˆ‰n ˆ zgˆ…r hobakan: hoˆ geldiniz:) hobakan: valla yokluˆ unuzu telaffi etmeye ˆ§alˆ ‰ˆ ˆ‰yorduk:) alichengiz: tek baˆ ˆ‰na oldukˆ§a zor MolvaM: evet evet sevgili seyirciler. eˆ er masada kimse temmuz ayˆ‰na kadar pik oynamaz ise yere geˆ§emezdi ben de farkˆ‰ndayˆ‰m MolvaM: slm alichengiz: kadˆ‰nlarˆ‰mˆ‰za da bakayˆ‰m, bir saniye alichengiz: Cappeletti oynuyorlarsa NS 1nt ye kontur atar..p alichengiz: Cuma Gˆ…nˆ… Tˆ…rkiye 2 li ˆ ampionasˆ‰ baˆ lˆ‰yor, 3 gˆ…n sˆ…ecek, ayrˆ ‰ntˆ‰lar sitede mecut MolvaM: ˆ imdi burada kuzey’in 3 karosu michaels gibi birˆ ey olurmu..2 ..H+m relrikas: 5 tez: oyuncular skoru mac bittikten sonra ogrenebiliyor MolvaM: ama siz doˆ ru oyunu yapˆ‰n gerisini de rakibe bˆ‰rakˆ‰n alichengiz : Antalya’dan iyi hikaye yok mu? 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MolvaM: aˆ§ok odadan sˆ…per skor MolvaM: kolbastˆ‰ adˆ‰na alichengiz: Maˆ§ˆ‰n ilk sayˆ‰sˆ‰nˆ‰ Kolbast ˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰ 2. elden kazanˆ‰yor, sadece 1 MolvaM: eˆ er doˆ ru anlaˆ ˆ‰rlarsa ˆ leme ulaˆ abilirler. ama grandˆ lem?..4 tez: cok iyi 17 var 18/19 gibi gosterebilirim diye 1♣ acti alichengiz: 5♣ iyi alichengiz: 4♣? alichengiz: enteresan board MolvaM: antalyaya gidebilsem yazˆ‰cam ama... MolvaM: 5 karo aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ rakibe kontr atmak dˆ ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda pek ˆ ans bˆ‰rakmamˆ‰ˆ alichengiz: fark yaratma ˆ§abalarˆ‰ meyvelerini vermeˆ e baˆ lamˆ‰ˆ vugraphzpv: sorry for technic problem..p MolvaM: pek sanmˆ‰yorum MolvaM: 4 kˆ¶r biraz az gibi MolvaM: bu gˆ…zel elle MolvaM: zaten 0 puan olsaydˆ‰ da 4kˆ¶r diyecekti nur MolvaM: turnuvanˆ‰n ilerleyen aˆ amalarˆ‰nda nasˆ‰l olsa "mutat zevat" ˆ‰ seyretme olanaˆ ˆ ‰ buluruz diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yorlar tez: darilmaz/ozgul cifti ana/kˆ‰z relrikas: 6♠ X -2 500 alichengiz: imp skalesˆ‰ ve VP soruluyor alichengiz: biraz sˆ‰ksan 4 pik olacak gibi hobakan: evet iˆ yerindeysen ve klavye kullanma ˆ¶zˆ…rlˆ…ysen daha da zor:) alichengiz: ama olmaz tabi:) alichengiz: Kenan, kadˆ‰nlarˆ‰mˆ‰zn Finali ile ilgili bilgin var mˆ‰? vugraphzpv: hayˆ‰r ˆ uanda yok alichengiz: Likom ve Ege takˆ‰mlarˆ‰ final oynuyor ve Likom ˆ¶ndeydi 1. evre sonunda begse: 3nt ya 4♠ iyi baraj alichengiz: iyi de olabilecekken, misfitte yakalan ˆ‰nca kˆ¶tˆ… olmuˆ MolvaM: Anter’in 3 karo aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ daha tutucu © alichengiz: Pekˆ en takˆ‰mˆ‰ iˆ§in tabi ki murat: Hatice’den kˆ¶tˆ…mser yorum geldi..p tez: oyuncular masada oynuyorlar yanda bilgisayar operatoru var..oynayanlarin oyunlarini bize iletiyor murat: ˆ imdi 3 derse 4’e gelirler tez: oyuncular bilgisayar basinda degil yani relrikas: kendi kendime yorum da komik oluyor biraz relrikas: en az 2 ˆ art her masaya :) alichengiz: 3 aˆ§an 4 mˆ… diyecek ergur: 3nt oynarlar ve 2sp den sonra kolay oldu tez: fit kontru oynamiyorlarsa zor kuzeyin konusmasi..p tez: bizim yazdiklarimizida gormuyorlar murat: bir dbl daha nafiz: ithal edelim mi ? :) tez: yok yazma lutfen alichengiz: ˆ nternational Match Point ve Victory Point ovncylmz: bir de guncellenmis agirlikli skorlar soruluyor:) alichengiz : Mola olabilirde olmayabilirde, genelde maˆ§ ortalarˆ‰nda, Lavabo iˆ§in bir mola olur MolvaM: veya genel inanˆ§ dumunuza gˆ¶re ilahi gˆ…ˆ§lere de bˆ‰rakabilirsiniz alichengiz : part skor yarˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ dramatik bitebilir arigun : hernakadar oyuncular yorumlarimizi okumasa da biz yorumcular oyuncular hakkinda olumsuz yazmiyoruz :).. J tez: yapay sistem oynuyorlar tez: atagi oynayanˆ‰ zorlayacak tez: eger 6♠ e gelirlerse gravity: selam :) relrikas: hoˆ geldin nafiz: hoˆ geldin ˆ mer relrikas: ˆ¶mer ovncylmz: hayir ovncylmz: 3♠ diyenin ortagi 4c diyecek alichengiz: cue bid ah tamam alichengiz: kˆ‰sˆ‰lama yok alichengiz: merhaba Herkese, yeniden :) MolvaM: pek dram olmadˆ‰ sanki tez: 5 der emine.. A MolvaM: kuzey ortaˆ ˆ‰ndan 5 pik cevabuˆ‰na inanamayacak arigun: ortagindan duyacagi 2keycard +koz dam cevabi piyango olacak MolvaM: 7 der mi?P MolvaM: piˆ k empasˆ‰ atarˆ‰m diye diyebilir alichengiz: 3nt agresiv, zonda olunca mˆ…mkˆ © ¨ © ¨ ¨ - 40 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) …n olan zonlarˆ‰ takˆ‰m maˆ§larˆ‰nda sˆ¶ ylemek lazˆ‰m ovncylmz : yani takimlarin onceki gunlerde topladigi puanlar da dahil edilmis liste alichengiz: evet, artˆ‰k herkes biliyor ♠ leri alichengiz: kˆ‰sˆ‰tlama alichengiz: zon yok iki tarafa da, A ♠ ˆ§ekilmezse tabi ki hobakan: sizlere iyi seyirler alichengiz: kontur atmak zor, -2 arigun: emin abi simdi kendi kendine sinirleniyordur hay bu negatif dbl’i icad edenin :) MolvaM: birinden biri pik oynar nasolsa.. 5 MolvaM: gˆ…le gˆ…le ˆ¶zgˆ…r :) alichengiz: toplam lˆ¶ve kanunu, nt oynayanlarda uzun renk yoksa 7 kozlarˆ‰ var kabul ediliyor, bizde 9 koz var, 7+9:16 9 alˆ‰yorlarsa 7 alˆ‰rˆ ‰z, ˆ igan var lˆ¶ve artabilir, zon durumu uygunsa baraj ... alichengiz: iyi sonuˆ§ verir tez: demezse evde hesap sorarim:) .. 2 tez: bilmeyenler icin dedikodu..e.sen esim olur..kizimin anasi anlaminda MolvaM: pik J109 elindeyken gayet makul bir karar ovncylmz: ooo vugraphzpv: u-26 genˆ§ milli takˆ‰mˆ‰mˆ‰z ovncylmz: diger masada da kor rua cekilmemiz ovncylmz: cekilmemis* ovncylmz: 3♠= nafiz: diˆ er masa konturlu 6♠’deler tez: yu bilirse 4 u yapabilir alichengiz: zaten doˆ ru oyunda as ♠ ♠ oynamak alichengiz: 2 defa empas atˆ‰abilyor bˆ¶ylelikle tez: 2♣ eger ya transfer degilse yanlˆ‰ˆ .. T alichengiz: 2♠ ♣ den davetimsi alichengiz: mixed raise ovncylmz: iki 10lumuz varsa hele 9la hic kacirilmaz alichengiz: zon yoksa zon sˆ¶ylemek iˆ§in istekli olmamak gerekiyor alichengiz: eskiden ne gˆ…zeldi, ˆ§aktˆ‰n mˆ‰, cezaydˆ‰ alichengiz: hey gidi gˆ…zel gˆ…nler hey :) arigun: 9 direkt alici var, sanˆ rˆ m fazla olmayacak.. 4 arigun: veya yerde 2 tane ♠ olabilir ama ortagindaki koz adedinden emin olamayacak MolvaM: 5nt gereksiz bir sorumluluk transferi idi. ortak doˆ al olarak sorumluluˆ u almadˆ‰ :) ergur: 6sp kolay deˆ il tez: 11 el kolay..12 zor tez: ♣ atagi oynayan icin en avatajlˆ‰ atak ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © - 41 - © tez: artˆ‰k 2 el fazla olacak 4♠ tez: 2♣ e kontr iyi acis gosteriyormus..yusuf sohtorik yanimda hobakan: yapˆ‰labilir alichengiz: ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰rsa enteresan hobakan: karo ataˆ ˆ‰na batˆ‰yor hobakan: kolay gelsin murat abi alichengiz: aldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰mˆ‰z sayˆ‰ verdiˆ imiz sayˆ‰ arasˆ‰ndaki fark imp ye ˆ§evriliyor, sonra bunlar toplanˆ‰p, VP ye ˆ§evriliyor, maˆ§ sonucu oluyor.. 6 emre kaya: bu maclara baslamadan ˆ¶nce ilk 3 soyle idi alichengiz: karo ataˆ ˆ‰ olmazsa yani ogoksel: koz atak en iyisi idi aˆ§ˆ‰k karta.. A tez: 2 yada 3 demesi gerekiyordu alichengiz: 3♣ demekten iyi, defans var alichengiz: 5♣ yˆ…ksek ergur: dbl alichengiz: karo bir yere gitmeyince, rakip alyor arigun: deklerasyon cok yuksek seviyede 7 dese dahi saglikli bir bilgi alma imkani olmadigi icin biraz uˆ§uˆ olacakti tez : kendisinden sistem konusunda yardim aliyorum alichengiz : staymandan geˆ§ip davet etmek bence iyi, ortak 15 le aˆ§tˆ‰ysa ona bir ˆ ans verelim alichengiz: bu savunmaya 3nt batmaz © © © © © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) Board NS: EW: o 4 c 4 6 © © this/total IMPs Djarum 154 BTN 142 450 450 S 5 N 5 6 9 ♠ A10 9 7 K10 7 11 10 A986 6 ♣AK 7 ♠Q5 3 N ♠K 7 6 4 2 A52 43 W E J K10 5 S ♣ Q10 8 6 4 3 ♣J52 ♠J8 3 6 Q J986 2 Q7 432 2 ♣9 7 450 W: Piskanto W p p p p p N: Anthony S Closed S: Kamto N E p 1♣ p 1N p 2 p 4 p © © § © © ª © © § E: Franky K S p 1 2 3 p ¨ ¨ ¨ #2 N:: K,3,6,2 #1 E:: 2,9,Q,A #3 N:: T,4,8,A #4 W:: 8,K,5, 8 #5 N:: 7, 4, J,5 henryb: more grands mdgraham: The dealing program has got stuck... Walddk4: Good evening to Cliff Gillis capercliff: hello folks jallerton: pass out possible capercliff: well done, W will rue that result viren169: Eire are putting the imps on the board. jcomyn: helped by Wales it has to be said jcomyn: who wins this one? sybarra: nicely done, that may be a partial both teams, sybarra: willl be interesting score sybarra: that 800 tightened up the match jcomyn: ordinary 3NT but you never know here roswolf: hmmm:) mariner1: EW have a play for 3n in the E mariner1: calm 4 making 5 here lestergold : except its dangerous at this vul © ª occasionalloy you have a slam opposite a passed patner who holds a perfecto more often you let opps in with their grabage thegarve: 4♠ on the previous hand - not sure what 2♠ 2NT 3 meant..p viren169 : Weak 2 in hearts will get Pender excited viren169: E/W if South doesnt bid here jcomyn: we were right John game on board 4 roswolf: 1 bid hand this mariner1: 3N in W has a shot too...... would have to duck a ♠ lead in both hands mdgraham: on the 7-level setting..p mdgraham: 1♠? mdgraham: still, 7♠ good save..p henryb: N-S have a 1400 save in 7♠ pkl: South just have a 3 bid now ... so will it be 5 ? sharkirl: u favour 4 opening mariner1: or could rise Q♠ I suppose mariner1: 3♠ E..1♣ idc: Hi Cliff - sit over there in Martin Garvey’s chair..p capercliff: where is it?:) idc: just tell us how every hand is being misbid and we won’t even notice he isn’t here :) jallerton: 2 both majors I suppose capercliff: prob some sort of Ogust thegarve: what range is 2 majors? viren169: Now N/S pkl: Only 3 by Pender? He knows Kelly quite well, apparently jcomyn: SHE pkl: Sorry - She ;-) jcomyn: The Lady Milne is for LADIES only jcomyn: wow a vul NT on that ralfwil: have you seen the lead? jcomyn: oh sorry didnt see the opoening bid jcomyn: no santyclz: If you don’t overcall 1 , don’t complain when your pd doesn’t defend as well as possible. diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 92, N-IRELAND 90, ENGLAND 79, CBAI 70, IRELAND 70, WALES 45 **** ketoprak: 4 NS..? henryb: 4N would not occur to me..1 henryb: 1100 I stand corrected mariner1: so Scotland in the lead though last hand may change that jallerton: would you double as West?..p steshome: Yes I would ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © © ¨ - 42 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) © thegarve: 3 is pre-empting yourself jallerton: 5-9 viren169: Pass?!?! roswolf: indeed in the main to stop both opps + pard from bidding/suggesting leads etc sharkirl: 6 looks likely to be bid in the other room on Board 4 - 1 : 3♣ opening sequence sharkirl: probably difficult to stay out of 6 here now idc: If 1♣ could be 11-13 bal, probably not..1N jallerton: No, sorry to mislead you earlier, 1♣ was natural or 15-17 balanced idc: but since that isn’t what they play, i probably would steshome: Is that lead right? capercliff : ive never understood playing 1N natural here, but I suppose these days opp open and respond with anything capercliff: and N certainly has stopped thegarve: as East was a passed hand pkl: Ouch. jcomyn: 4 matches tomorrow petepunt: 1n 15-17, 2♣ c/b..p ralfwil: after 1nt-opening both hands have a lead in defence jcomyn: is it? jcomyn: no penalty X any more roswolf: on another day north would pass this and they would miss a game diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 92, N-IRELAND 90, ENGLAND 79, CBAI 70, IRELAND 70, WALES 45 **** lestergold: well there is nothing here FRob to give us an opporunity to have a good old public debate about odds mdgraham : West consults system file for " Interference over Blackwood" section ..2 ..trf jallerton: It’s a logical lead; E thinks that declarer has ♣Jxxx and partner may have a singleton idc: A lot like to play 2H natural there, so that would be an option jcomyn: and made sybarra: best to play from W? mariner1: should get this right as if S has A♣ then she is always off so has to play N for it tihas : in desperate times like these, E might actually consider bidding 7 all by himself after partner launches blackwood..p steshome: Yes reasonable shot capercliff: could it hurt to get count in ♣ first? jallerton: not a great success here, however. I © © © ¨ ¨ © - 43 - think a top club would be found by most people ( rightly or wrongly) steshome: Yes I agree capercliff: good lead for the defence petepunt : may have upgraded S to 18-19 an drebid 2n thegarve: will build a 9th trick in ♣ mariner1 : well easier to play in E however should make anyway mariner1: not easy for E to bid 3N though mariner1: rise Q♠ mariner1: or duck just do not win in hand mariner1: the Aussies call that "punting" :) lestergold: 3n or 4h sldegehammer proof two bullets only to lose mariner1: in US when you "punt" you give up :0 capercliff: good thing declarer doesnt have 7 top tricks now..2 jallerton: Yes, Cliff, is partner has a singleton club viren169: Wales are giving Eire a ahead strart before they get going... mariner1: Oz punting = betting on ralfwil: for me 1nt on W is too weak 11 HP and two 10..p sharkirl: they might be thinking of the 6 they missed on B 4 jcomyn: yes too stroing with two bullets..3 jcomyn: and this is not nice at all toobad: EW off in 3nt played from the west hand on board 19, so another plus to NI roswolf: now we are in dangerous territory since north has cuebid clubs mdgraham: 6 +1 may be EW’s best result. NS likely to save over a seven bid..p jallerton: she can finesse in capercliff: but will still roll home with 3-2 and 3-3♠ jallerton : should be OK with ♠ 3-3 and A onside steshome: Yes petepunt: suits dont break well Walddk7: Welcome to Joe Shair santyclz: Hi folks. roswolf: now they are dead sharkirl: Hi Joe roswolf: hi Joe mariner1: now she has it ketoprak: 2 =transfer ketoprak: 1nt=18-19 ketoprak: 3 =forcing jallerton: and W cannot get in to lead a low ..4 © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © © ¨ ¨ Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) © sharkirl: and they only got to 5 on Board 4 in the sharkirl: as predicted ..p mdgraham: the best possible result, rather than the best result possible :)..p ralfwil: If you are in 4 and ♠ is lead, you will make! jcomyn: surely cant pass 3H bid thats bold Mary Madden thegarve: East cannot get West in to play the pressure low ..p petepunt: W figures to hold at least 5 here so may guess s right (vacant spaces) petepunt: however, may prefer to play on ♠ jcomyn: choices choices I hate them petepunt: if ♠ a ♣ swith will defeat i think roswolf: well west has no other lead but a top club lestergold: u mean north should have considered slam possibilities he was pretty close to thinking about it lestergold: shde jallerton: well done..♣2 jcomyn: musthave found the C lead against 4S roswolf: oh my:( vugraphzms: :) santyclz: Still a trick short if defense is careful. Walddk4: Welcome back to Cliff Gillis capercliff: hello again..♣9 sybarra: with hts not breaking ........♣Q toobad: 2d was going for a number, wires badly crossed sharkirl: I wonder why all weekend Ladies seem to have such problems with their leads, when lead looks standard roswolf: west is lucky that there arent 12 tricks on top - this should still go -1 sybarra: welcome Cliff, glad you arrived as I have to leave mariner1: just needs to not set up those losing tricks capercliff: chances of stiff ♣ are less than giving away the contract no?..♣A jcomyn: now the H should be played right sharkirl: not if east lets go a on run of s capercliff: ahhh mariner1: no I was speaking to the odds statement you made :) lestergold: but no bullets no singletons mariner1: no slam tries N here.. K santyclz: It would still make 9 tricks with a lead in this case... 3.. 6 mariner1: hi Cliff © ¨ © ¨ © other room.. 2 sybarra: but "right.. T petepunt: odds still close capercliff: hi Rob sybarra: but "right" is a gentle term, E has a ht trick coming .. 4 petepunt: 1♠ 4!g 3 1C is ideal but tough.. 8 petepunt: 4 , 1♣ :).. A vugraphzms: declarer thinking sharkirl: only chance is to play 3 more rounds of s and pray..♣8..♣K mariner1: N pitching a helps mariner1: Q now strangles N..♣5 roswolf: well both defenders should know the position and in particular that no trick can be ducked to rectify the count..♠8 jallerton: time for a concession.. 7 jcomyn: getting ropey petepunt: small will guarantee steshome: Oh well it was a thoughtful lead as you say Jeffrey..♠4 roswolf: prayers coming viren169: If 4♣ is NF... North has to start with a dble..... J ralfwil: I noticed this in the first session - there are no penalty doubles on lower levels today! jcomyn: as I mentioned earlier whats wrong with leaving 2D X in - it is not a disaster if it happens to make mariner1: making 3 or 4 now viren169: Not easy..... 5 santyclz: It may be hard for e to imagine the ♣ak in w. pkl : North has a fantastic hand after 3 . If anything, she could bid 4 as slam invitational. © © © © © ¨ © © ¨ © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © © - 44 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) Board NS: EW: o 4 c 4 7 © © N N -3 -3 this/total IMPs BTN 142 Djarum 154 300 300 7 7 ♠10 7 5 6 A Q10 7 7 A J10 5 ♣Q J 4 2 ♠K J 6 4 N ♠A 9 3 K J652 W E 8754 93 S ♣ K10 6 5 3 ♣9 8 7 ♠Q 8 2 6 6 98743 5 KQ6 2 6 ♣A 7 90 W: A HAITANI W p p p p N: J BOJOH Open E: OCTAVIAN S: L GONTHA N E S p 1N p 2 2 p 3 4 p p © © § § © § ¨ § © § ¨ ª © ¨ ª © © ª © ¨ ¨ © § © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ª ª § © § © #2 S:: 3, 5, Q,K #1 E:: 9,A,3,2 #3 E:: 8, 4, 6,4 #4 S:: 2,4,A,3 #5 N:: J,9,6,5 #6 N:: T, 2, Q,8 #8 S:: 2,J,5,3 #7 E:: 7, 7, T,J #9 W:: 7, T, 5, K #10 E:: A,8,4,7 #12 N:: Q, J,8, K #11 E:: 9,Q,6, T #13 E:: 6,9, K, A murat : Deniz Tˆ…rkoˆ lu pas deseydi 4 ’e gelemeyceklerdi ama eli kesinlikle pas demiyor.. Briˆ§ kazasˆ‰.. tez: is kazasi egitim zayiati arigun: yani 7 demek mantiksiz degil en kotu ♠ dami 3 ♣ acanin ortaginda ararsin ve yuksek ihtimaldir MolvaM: diˆ er masada bu el ilginˆ§ olabilir MolvaM: ilk el dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda kan gˆ¶vdeyi gˆ¶tˆ… ren board gelmedi. el daˆ ˆ‰tan bilgisayar bayaˆ ˆ ‰ dinlenmiˆ anlaˆ ˆ‰lan vugraphzpv: bir sonraki maˆ§ Senyˆ¶r Milli ve Under26 arasˆ‰nda 15 35 de baˆ layacak tez: 3♣ pas 3nt olacak ve batacak sanˆ‰yorum tez: ♣ ler adaletsiz - 45 - arigun: defansin da atlama sansi yok gibi.. fahir: ˆ u anda A grubunda 1. ve 2. sˆ‰radaki 2 takˆ‰mˆ‰n maˆ§ˆ‰nˆ‰ yayˆ‰nlˆ‰yoruz ergur: nacizhane ben kˆ‰sa yormlar yapˆ‰p durumu idare etmeye ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰yorum:) fahir: teˆ ekkˆ…rler relrikas: iˆ§erde kubaˆ§-tokay biraz kˆ¶tˆ… baˆ ladˆ‰lar umarˆ‰m toparlarlar bir an ˆ¶nce... alichengiz: potansiyel swing eliydi alichengiz: her ˆ ey iyi 6 pik oluyor alichengiz: squezze, sˆ‰kˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰rma alichengiz: ♣ ve ♠ arasˆ‰nda sˆ‰kˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ yordu alichengiz: ew 4 Walddk4 : http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ teams_round.php?round=1508 for current standing and the 12 A-teams in action today ergur: yada♠ Walddk4: Good morning everyone alichengiz: ns 2 relrikas: 3 alichengiz: Hello Roland :) vugraphzpv: http://www.radyospor.com/ alichengiz: yayˆ‰ varsa hep birlikte radyo aˆ§alˆ ‰m :) alichengiz: diˆ er masada da yapˆ‰lˆ‰nca 370 sayˆ‰lˆ‰k fark 9 imp bˆ…yˆ…kˆ§e bir swing hobakan: pardon MolvaM: bu el 1 nt aˆ§ar mˆ‰ydˆ‰ aˆ§maz mˆ ‰ydˆ‰ sorusu ise tamamen ortaklˆ‰k genel stiline uygun 1 durum MolvaM: demek mine-dilek aˆ§ˆ‰yorlarmˆ‰ˆ bu tˆ…r elleri arigun: mac o boardla dengeley gelecek arigun: dengeye alichengiz: ns 4♠ MolvaM: belki 4 karo aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ daha iyi olabilirdi ama onu da herkes bir konvansiyon oynuyor bu aralar..p begse : yo elimine edip tr oynayˆ‰nca ♣ i tahmin ederse yapˆ‰yor alichengiz: 4♠ EW tez: 20 puanlˆ‰k bir 3nt..gayet mantˆ‰klˆ‰..p alichengiz: EW veya barajˆ‰ yapabilir tabi ki MolvaM: dolayˆ‰sˆ‰ ile levent 5 karo aˆ§ma riskini almˆ‰ˆ vugraphzpv : 3. maclar 18:00 de ve LikomMersin maci canli yayinlanacak..1N MolvaM: ˆ¶zlˆ… sˆ¶z: ara sˆ‰ra grandˆ leme batmˆ‰yorsanˆ‰z yeterince ˆ§ok grandˆ lem demiyorsunuz demektir © ¨ ¨ © ¨ Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) alichengiz: pik kˆ¶r karo part skor yarˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ 4 ♠ enteresan olur alichengiz : neden? :) sen Tokaylaˆ‰ mˆ‰ tutuyorsun? relrikas: aynˆ‰ takˆ‰mdayˆ‰z relrikas: :) alichengiz: Ziya Atilla da pek iyi baˆ lamadˆ‰, ilk el 1 batarla kurtarabilirdi, !q iyi fikir deˆ ildi relrikas: objektif yorumlamaya calisacagim tabi :) ergur: wc good morning Roland alichengiz: 3♣ 2♠ veriyor ˆ§aka var ♣ ye alichengiz: 5 / 5 hobakan : 4 sp dbl lˆ‰ oynandˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in kontr farkˆ‰nˆ‰ kazandˆ‰ kolbastˆ‰ alichengiz: EW arigun: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams_ event.php?event=184&stage=397..p alichengiz: ben biliyorumda seyirci bilsin iˆ§in sordum Mehmetcim :) alichengiz: ˆ lem oynamazlarsa anlaˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰r bir ˆ ey, ihtimali dˆ…ˆ ˆ…k alichengiz: % 25..2 hobakan: 5 yerine 9.. o yˆ…zden Karo As ˆ¶nem kazandˆ‰:) tez: ben eminenin 19 puaniyla 1 nt diye araya girerdim..p tez: dbl cok sonuca yonelik konusma degil ogoksel: dbl die girdiˆ i noktada ortaˆ ˆ‰ndan gelen yanˆ‰tlara mutlu deˆ il arigun : turnuvanin running scorlarina board detaylari butlre vs yukaridaki linkten ulasabilirsiniz fahir: www.tbricfed.org.tr adresinden sonuˆ§lara ulaˆ abilirsiniz tez: 3nt disarda 4/4 oldugu icin sorunsuz alichengiz : bende kˆ¶kten takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰n oyuncusuyum, dˆ…n akˆ am ˆ¶nemli bir iˆ im gereˆ i dˆ¶nmek zorunda kaldˆ‰m relrikas: "3 seviyesinde support var mˆ‰?" diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor olabilir ziya abi alichengiz: arkadaˆ lar, Tˆ…rkiye 4 lˆ… takˆ‰ mlar ˆ ampiyonasˆ‰nˆ‰ seyrediyoruz alichengiz: -1 veya 2 4♠ ♣ yi nasˆ‰l oynadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰na baˆ lˆ‰ olarak alichengiz: asˆ‰nˆ‰ ˆ§ekmeyen.. MolvaM: bu zon durumunda bu elle multi aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ ben pek beˆ enmedim..2 tez: 3nt yi sevdim tez: ♠10 atak edilecek alichengiz: bugˆ…n 4 . gˆ…n alichengiz: seyirciler, demek yerine michaels yapˆ‰labilir miydi? diye soruyor geˆ§en el iˆ§in, © © ¨ ¨ © © © anlaˆ maya baˆ lˆ‰ tez: ortak canli pozisyonda iki rakip konusurken benim 1 nt den 16 19 bekler zaten..p alichengiz: bu ˆ ampiyonada oynamak gerekir, harika zaman Antalya bu zamanlarda ˆ§ok gˆ… zel relrikas: ˆ¶yle kabul etmiˆ olmalˆ‰ ki 3pik dedi alichengiz: batar gibi alichengiz: , 2 ♠ alichengiz: 4♠ murat: Hatice’nin eliyle 4 denilebilirdi..3 murat: atak gˆ¶sterme amaˆ§lˆ‰ MolvaM: ama siz bana bakmayˆ‰m vugraphzpv: sanˆ‰rˆ‰m bi anlaˆ mazlˆ‰k oldu alichengiz: 3♠ dˆ¶trlˆ… tutuˆ dengeli davet arigun: herkese merhaba MolvaM: defansta ˆ§ok as var ama batˆ‰rmaya yetmeycek vulkan: hoˆ geldin Cengiz MolvaM: gˆ…naydˆ‰n cengiz :) alichengiz: 55 oynuyorlarsa alichengiz: eˆ er 5 ’e geinirse, ♣ ataˆ ˆ‰ iyi, aksi halde, ucuz baraj olacak arigun: 2. dbl biraz agresif oldu..p MolvaM : kˆ¶r atak edilirse deklaranˆ‰n pik empasˆ‰ atmamasˆ‰ gerek relrikas: 2lide X takˆ‰m maˆ§ˆ‰nda bu zonda tercihe kalmis... love cok ortak tutsada piˆ man degiliz gravity: 5-4-2-2 gˆ…zel bir 17,sanˆ‰rˆ‰m 1nt tercih etmezdim,eger 15-17 oynanˆ‰yorsa. tez: 5 da oluyor alichengiz: 4♣ kontrol cue bid olmalˆ‰ alichengiz: -1 tez: ilk konusma yanlis olunca duzeltmek zor artik..4 ogoksel: irem iˆ§inden ’pas de artˆ‰k’ diyordur:) alichengiz: 3♠ oluyor emniyetli oyunla alichengiz : Nihal ˆ§ok dengeli ve minimum davet eli var hobakan: oldukˆ§a kritik alichengiz: atak sorusu oldu o el hobakan: ancak atak bulundu alichengiz: Anadolu’da 4 ’yu konvensiyon oynamayana kˆ‰z vemiyorlar Murat bey alichengiz: Merhaba Nafiz abi :) MolvaM: haldun fikretten bir sˆ…per skor daha tez: eminenin eli onor mezarligi:)..p MolvaM : multi en azˆ‰ndan rakibin 5-4 pik fitlerini bulmalarˆ‰nˆ‰ engelledi tez: riskli ama gerekli kabexnuf: zannetmiyorum, irfan ortakta da tek © ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ - 46 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) vardˆ‰r deyip demiˆ tir alichengiz: 2nt= J2nt, 4 lˆ… tutuˆ aˆ§ar+ nafiz: kontrolumuz dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ndaki kesintiden dolayˆ‰ ˆ¶zˆ…r dileriz alichengiz: 4+ tutuˆ alichengiz : ♣ ataˆ ˆ‰ gelmedi ˆ imi yapˆ‰ labilir vugraphzpv: teknik arˆ‰zadan dolayˆ‰ ˆ¶zˆ…r dileriz MolvaM: nafiz zorluya hoˆ geldiniz diyelim :) tez: guneyin ♠ defos etmemesi gerekiyor..p alichengiz: bu elde Ege takˆ‰mˆ‰ iˆ§in kˆ¶tˆ… alichengiz: hmmm ovncylmz: pik teki karo asi vardir dedi irfan:)..p ergur: 3nt uygun kontrat relrikas : 2 ♠ ilginc tutamasinlar diye nasilsa ortaktaki majorler eˆ it sayˆ‰da diye sanˆ‰rˆ‰ m relrikas: bendekiler de eˆ it gibisinden oldu sanˆ ‰rˆ‰m tez: yusuf 5 diyecekler.. leri 4/4 gorunce uzulecekler diyor tez: 4♠ elim iyi.. kontrolum yok demek alichengiz: ♣ ˆ§ˆ‰kar sanˆ‰rˆ‰m, Q hobakan: normal olarak tabiki.:) MolvaM: ercan pik asˆ‰ ˆ§ekerek baˆ lar..♣9 tez: 8 de kalˆ‰yor yinede ergur: sp defos ederse-1 olur alichengiz: konvensiyon kartlarˆ‰ TBF webte olmasˆ‰ lazˆ‰m, milli takˆ‰m seˆ§meleri iˆ§in, seˆ§melere katˆ‰lan ˆ§iftler oraya veriyor tez: ama ♠ onor ikili anlarsa..♣A tez: atagiyla batacaklar fahir: karodan ˆ lem ararken pikte durmayˆ‰ tercih etmek ilginˆ§ oldu tez: yoksa ♣ lere ler gider tez: guneyde kontrolu yok bu biliniyor tez: rua kimde..sorun o tez: ♠ vale baslayinca yapacak arigun: uygun ve ♠ de sorun yok disardaki dagilim iyi murat: Mersin defansta kalmayˆ‰ tercih etti.. Likom iˆ§in potansiyel imp fˆ‰rsatˆ‰...♣3 ovncylmz: ama yapari icin degil bence ovncylmz: rakip cakamaz artik diye vugraphzpv: o da deˆ iˆ ik bi strateji kim bilir ne dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ndˆ…:) ovncylmz: irfan cin gibidir:) tez: ortaktaysa as cikmak gerekiyor tez: zor atak alichengiz: baˆ ka bir ˆ ey ˆ§ˆ‰karsa bakalˆ‰m.. alichengiz: 5 karoda sorun? ¨ © © © © © ¨ © © - 47 - © alichengiz: 4♠ iyi kontrat yapˆ‰labilir tek zon arigun: michales yerine dbl daha mantikli muhakkak alichengiz: kontrolsˆ…z ˆ lem giriˆ imi MolvaM: nevzat kˆ…bid bile yapamamˆ‰ˆ ken 5 karo demek iyi midir? alichengiz: :) MolvaM: atak hala kritik alichengiz: 1♠ aˆ§ˆ‰nca Murat’ta dev var ama ergur: ˆ imdioldu..♣2 alichengiz: bugˆ…n A grubundan 6 B grubundan 2 ve toplam 8 takˆ‰m yarˆ‰n gˆ…n boyu swiss devam edecek fahir: yarˆ‰n swiss deˆ il danish oynayacaklar alichengiz: diˆ er takˆ‰mlar eleniyorlar, Board A Match oynarlar veya Antalya ˆ§ok gˆ…zel bu zamanlarda, Gezerler fahir: yˆ‰llardˆ‰r bu ˆ…lkede danish ve swiss i bir tˆ…rlˆ… anlatamadˆ‰k vugraphzpv: aynˆ‰ anda iki masayˆ‰ izlemek isteyenler bu linkten yararlanabilir MolvaM: evet sˆ…per kontrat MolvaM: ama herhalde koz veya yerin rengini ˆ§ˆ ‰kmaz alichengiz: +1 MolvaM: hmmm arigun: bir sonraki maclar 15:30 da basliyor, Major Bogazici-Antalya maci vugraphddan yayinlanacak.. 3 MolvaM: oyun oluyorsa yorumcular bˆ¶yle der de ˆ ilmi tez? :) tez: 3nt gibi kutsal kontratˆ‰ gecmek icin cok gecerli sebepleriniz olmalˆ‰ gravity: gˆ…zel bir 3nt idi vugraphzpv: gˆ…ney dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…rken dekleran claim yaptˆ‰..♣5 tez: biz elleri gorup as atak ederdim diyebiliriz MolvaM: ˆ§ˆ‰karmˆ‰ˆ meˆ er alichengiz: bˆ¶ylece oldu.. Q alichengiz: ♣ ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lsa zordu gerˆ§i MolvaM : ama ele geˆ§erken hangi minˆ¶rˆ… kullanacak? tez: du bakali nolcek:).. K ergur: 9 kolay alichengiz: diˆ erleri iˆ§in bir platform bilmiyorum alichengiz: hˆ‰mm ˆ imdi ilginˆ§ alichengiz: yapabilir alichengiz: K ˆ§ekecek, alichengiz: kozla yere Kˆ¶re ˆ§akacak alichengiz: kozla yere ve Kˆ¶re ♣ kaˆ§acak rakip ˆ§akarken alichengiz: ♣ kaˆ§mak iˆ§inde.. MolvaM: gene de batacak © © © © © ¨ Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) alichengiz: koz dˆ¶nˆ…ˆ ˆ… iyi alichengiz: -2 gibi ˆ imdi MolvaM: fikrette daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰m sˆ…per. biraz da puan olsaymˆ‰ˆ daha iyi olurmuˆ tabii alichengiz: hehe arigun: ayni anda diger masayi da seyretmek isteyenler icin http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ alichengiz: Tek K iˆ e yaramadˆ‰ alichengiz: o K ♣ A olsa sorunu kalmayacaktˆ‰ alichengiz: iki ♣ onˆ¶rˆ…nden birinin iˆ§erde olma ihtimali % 75 civarˆ‰nda alichengiz: 75 e zon iyidir begse: burda ♣ oynanmazsa elimine ediyor ama bir ˆ¶nˆ¶r iˆ§erde zaten MolvaM: ama batˆ‰yorsa "tek taraflˆ‰ ˆ§ok riskli karar aldˆ‰" derdik hemen..♣8 tez: yerden oynarsa tez: guney 10 yada 9 girmezse tez: 8 li koyarak yapara gelebilir tez: ama .. 4 alichengiz: A koymaz sanˆ‰rˆ‰m..♣6..♣4 tez: yok elimden geldiˆ ince el gˆ¶ren bˆ…lbˆ…ll ˆ…ˆ ˆ… yapmamaya ˆ§aliˆ iyorum:).. 2 tez: as ♠ koyup koz oynar emi.. 4 alichengiz: yaptˆ‰rˆ‰r yoksa relrikas: baˆ tan 1NT acinca ucup gitti.. A gravity: 1 karo acilsa da bulunmasi kolay degildi gerci. MolvaM: 11 imp daha alichengiz: Barˆ‰ˆ avcˆ‰ bildi Bordu :).. 3 tez: onor sur onor yapilsaydi yinede olacakti alichengiz: Karo q’yu dˆ…ˆ ˆ…rmeˆ e oynuyor Arˆ‰gˆ…n vugraphzpv: eˆ it diye claim yapˆ‰ldˆ‰.. J ergur: ˆ imdi arigun: saglamak icin yere yeterli antre yok galiba, alternatif oyun partaj varsaymazsak T empasi ile yere antre yaratmaya calismak.. 9 alichengiz: ne demiˆ atalarˆ‰mˆ‰z, rakip iki renk okuyup zona geldiyse, diˆ er renkleri ˆ§ˆ‰k vugraphzpv: http://www.bridgebase.com/client/ client.php.. 6 alichengiz: Butler Rankingler, oyuncularˆ‰n nas ˆ‰l oynadˆ‰klarˆ‰nˆ‰n bilinmesi iˆ§in ˆ§ˆ‰ karˆ‰lˆ‰yor, herhangi baˆ ka bir ˆ¶nemi yok.. 5 alichengiz: antre kalmadˆ‰ kˆ¶r iˆ§in tez: as verip saglamaya calisiyor..belkide den 2 sefer gecis var.. T ergur: fazla oldu alichengiz: zorlu assael, rusinov atak yapˆ‰yor, KQ dan Q ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰yor © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ © ogoksel: yer bitti ele bakalˆ‰m.. 2 tez: birileride bize el goren bulbulu der alichengiz: UDCA oynuyorlar MolvaM: turgay sesyˆ‰lmaz eski tˆ…rkiye ˆ ¨ ¨ ampiyonlarˆ‰mˆ‰zdandˆ‰r.. Q.. 8 alichengiz: direkt karoyu uˆ§ursa daha iyi :)..♣7 alichengiz: kˆ¶r ˆ§akmayˆ‰nca -3 alichengiz: uzattˆ‰.. 7 ergur: 5..♣T tez: belki saˆ dˆ‰r ♠:)..♣J..♠2 arigun: T south da olsaydi 8 li ile yere gecer © © © ¨ ¨ cakar sonra K ile yere gecer cakar son kozla yere gectiginde 5. yu kullanirdi..♠J..♠5..♠3.. 7 tez: iyi oynadi fahir: Herkese Merhaba..♠T tez: slm fahir:).. 5 arigun: Fahir Uzumcu hosgeldin ogoksel: hosgeldinn alichengiz: bu masada ki oyuncular, eskiden defalarc aynˆ‰ takˆ‰mda birlikte oynadˆ‰lar.. K..♠A..♠8 tez: belkide sagdir..yere gecip oynamak lazim:) ..♠4..♠7..♠9..♠Q alichengiz: kˆ¶r iˆ§in kalmasada, oyun sonu yapˆ ‰labiliyordu..♠6.. T..♣Q ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 48 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) Board NS: EW: o 4 c 4 7 © © N N -3 -3 this/total IMPs Djarum 154 BTN 142 300 300 7 7 ♠10 7 5 6 A Q10 7 7 A J10 5 ♣Q J 4 2 ♠K J 6 4 N ♠A 9 3 K J652 W E 8754 93 S ♣ K10 6 5 3 ♣9 8 7 ♠Q 8 2 6 6 98743 5 KQ6 2 6 ♣A 7 90 W: Piskanto W p p p p N: Anthony S Closed S: Kamto N E 1N 2 4 © © ¨9,2,5,J ©3,§5,©A,2 ª4,5,A,8 ¨7,A,3,6 E: Franky K S p 2 2N p ¨ p p p §2,7,A,3 §J,9,ª2,§K ª9,Q,K,7 ¨T,©6,¨K,4 henryb: with no N-S interference..©J..©8..♣K.. ©6..©9..♠K..©A #1 E:: #3 S:: #5 W:: #7 W:: #2 N:: #4 N:: #6 E:: #8 N:: mdgraham: I admit that I hate the 1♠ overcall, but on that hand it certainly worked idc: I suppose the Scottish protective bidding is getting sounder idc: -5 last time, that one was only booked for -3 at most jallerton: South passed, West 1 viren169: 4 at least sybarra: guys I have to leave for team match capercliff: possible slam here mariner1: 4 likely NS 3N makes too Walddk4: Welcome back to Alex Adamson lestergold: i was saying that we had no complex debate about odds on this dull hand available mariner1: 4♠ NS and out ¨ © - 49 - © Walddk4: whose sister is playing in the other room lestergold: hi Adam mariner1: hi Alex rednaxela: Good evening, at least it will be for either Scotland or NI. lestergold : joining us for the coffee hands session jallerton: undo..p sybarra: so cu later capercliff: funny little hand this..p idc: we’re being made to pay for the exciting hands in the first half capercliff: 4♠ looks pretty routine after stayman jcomyn: ok Shirley sybarra: ! thx all capercliff: but that would be ambitious mariner1: no slam makes that I see lestergold: if e/w were not vulnerable then there might be some interest here possible sacrifices barrages but at this vulnerability east will pass quickly mariner1: yes and it is very close now I think rednaxela: I sure the dealing machine, or the players, will have some excitement for us. idc: this lot are a lot flatter..1N sharkirl: 3N by e/w perhaps capercliff: 7 on 2 hooks anyone?..p steshome: Another reasonable slam. jallerton: Roland, maybe viren169: brave dble petepunt: by, shirley good luck mariner1: mirrored ♣ and no place to put a ♠ from S means no slam mariner1 : NS can not afford to miss another game lestergold: and they have shown a little propensity to do that unfortunately mariner1: 3 might be the call here,,,,, though that might be too strong mdgraham: 2 transfer?..2 mdgraham: looks like it henryb: 2 = 6 and I think 8-11 points..p jallerton: 2NT = 4-card raise, 3♠ = shortage, I think steshome: The 3♠ bid should get them to 6 Walddk4: http://www.cbai.ie/ for the tournament website Walddk4: In 60 series England has won on 46 occasions, Scotland on 9, Wales won three times and Northern Ireland twice. The Republic of Ireland, joining the series in 1998, has yet to win ©© © ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) idc: i prefer 3NT by North after a 15-17 NT thegarve: 4♠or 3NT - looks like all the hands with singleton and voids were used up in the last set capercliff: my predictions living up to the bill idc: SHould make on power when a bad trump split might doom 4♠ jcomyn: hmm petepunt: interestin what u should play 2♠ as here mariner1: can’t set up to pitch enough ♠ lestergold: i think double followed by another spade bidaltho 2s should show almost these values mariner1: DBL 3♠ 3 all reasonable rednaxela: Hope N/S have a way of showing values here - Lebensohl or similar. mariner1 : 2 ♠ could be a great suit with less values I thihnk Walddk4: For the first time we have six teams taking part. The sixth spot goes to the host, this year Ireland. They are represented by two teams: Republic of Ireland and CBAI (Contract .....2 Walddk4: Bridge Association of Ireland) jallerton: not with 5-3 clubs... idc: mind you, if ♣ weren’t 4-4 I’d be wrong but that wouldn’t be the first time :) jcomyn: 2H and leave it there capercliff: this is not 3-card drury jallerton: Maybe, Sarah, although the minor suit jacks help to make 6 so good..p steshome: Roland you heard your name being taken in vain! We think you would be in 7 on this one pkl: Oh - that D is obvious with my glasses on pkl: Ah - perhaps not.... *shining glasses* santyclz: 2 by w anyone? capercliff: 2 natural lestergold : on a 2s bid north would have no excuse for not inviting game mariner1: 3♠ now? mariner1: or 3 cue? lestergold: well now 3s and they are thwere capercliff: I would rather be in 4♠..2N thegarve: a safe part score Walddk4: Without any doubt..p idc: EW or NS? santyclz: I confess I would pass in 4th seat if 1nt weren’t available. lestergold: i think 2s is a slight underbid and this sequence is a slight overbid viren169: Looks like N/S are on their way to 4 ¨ ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ © © ..4 © sharkirl: CBAI managed to bid 4 on Board 5 after a 1♣ opening roswolf: not unless you paid my debts! Walddk4: NW..p santyclz: Response to 1 , not opening. capercliff: but I believe they are playing 4 card majors mariner1: so the right spot and should make 5 rednaxela: Phew. Walddk4 : In the Camrose Trophy and Lady Milne (women), the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland play as separate entities, unlike other international competitions where the Irish Bridge .....p Walddk4: Union sends one team to represent the island of Ireland capercliff: interesting is that you kinda need both finesses to make 6 Walddk4: How many times did you win the LM, Sarah? capercliff: but 8x is helpful Walddk4: Maybe she lost count Walddk4: You using your toes too? steshome: I don’t know Roland. I think six?..p viren169: I think 3 is enough with Marray’s hand, 2♠ seems to be over stating their hand... petepunt: good to play 2 as about 8-10 and 3♠ and 2♠ as 5-7 ? capercliff: ♠ 5-2 doesnt help lestergold: well good ladies they are where they should be lestergold: phew indeed mariner1: true Mike and I like to err, most times, on the side of aggression henryb: tricky thing is not to touch and keep E from getting endplayed.. 9 Walddk4: six is correct capercliff: is West worth another try? jallerton: Ah, so Roland was just testing! capercliff: maybe 4♠? idc: I wonder if they have agreements over the dbl - would pass by East have been more serious try for example? idc: maybe it would just have shown some sort of control and 4♣ denies one roswolf: well if not playing 2/1 maybe but the suit is too poor imo capercliff: I cant even see 5 now that I ook at it lestergold: you are right Rob rednaxela: The NI lead over England is now down to 3 imps. © ¨ © © ¨ ¨ - 50 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) jallerton: pass might just sho interest with no lestergold: forcibng the auction tio the three convenient cue.. 2 jallerton: show viren169: Now a ♣ leads is marked... steshome: On this layout, yes - but both contracts cold so no problem.. 5 thegarve: I have two ways of raising to game opposite 1Nt with 4M - one for hands with Qxxx or worse jcomyn: nooooo viren169: same colour! pkl: Whatever bid by N, I guess a game would be bid. jcomyn: s lead cant be right pkl: What is the meaning of 2♠? jcomyn: daresay asking viren169: Only 8 tricks available on a ♣ lead lestergold: often these hands fall between two stools henryb: they will not succeed.. J henryb: on defense idc: my opponents don’t even need solid stuff outside - last weekend they had Qx opposite Txx pkl: Also, I don’t understand Kellys first pass.... would have bid 2♣ jcomyn: now is is 12..♣2 viren169: General force looking for 3N I guess... not sure why?!?!..♣7 viren169: 3 seems right to me... after redble and 2 capercliff: cant set up and cant ruff 2♠..♣A idc: I’ve missed lots of better slams than this one, so no shame in playing game..♣3.. 3 idc: but they seemed well placed until the end capercliff: either way, the 4♣ bid made West’s hand huge IMO diumraid: In Running Scores - N-Ireland 19, England 18, CBAI 15, IRELAND 15, SCOTLAND 12, WALES 11 diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING from LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 58, SCOTLAND 52, IRELAND 48, ENGLAND 44, CBAI 42, WALES 26 *****..♣5 santyclz : I would do it playing 2/1 if I were playing a weak 2 , but not if playing multi... A.. 2 toobad: good guess..♣J mariner1: if you bid slightly aggressively, still with in reason, you will get some good mariner1: scores you might not have ........ and lose a few low scores,,,,,,, trade off is nice roswolf: fair comment..♣9..♠2..♣K level on the south hand could tun into a disaster on another day today the only disaster threatening was that they wouild miss the game pkl: Ouch.... I don’t understand the play. Why not D in trick 2?..♠4..♠5 mariner1: win in hand,, lead A and ruff ♠ to make the 4 now..♠A capercliff: yep..♠8 viren169: all those beautiful hearts!..♠9 pkl: D => mariner1: oh I missed the ♣ ruff..♠Q..♠K..♠7 viren169: from 8 tricks to 12 tricks to 9 tricks!.. 7 sharkirl: unusual declarer play.. A mdgraham: on 6 they stopped in 4 - unexpected.. 3 henryb: meanwhile in the other room E-W stole the hand in 2♠ mdgraham: East is finished henryb : so this will probably be 12 imps for Monte Carlo mdgraham: odd name for a team based in Estonia diumraid: **** LIVE LADY MILNE SCORES **** IN RUNNING **** IRELAND 36, NIRELAND 35, SCOTLAND 30, ENGLAND 30, CBAI 30, WALES 19.. 6 henryb: well played.. T.. 6.. K.. 4 mdgraham: like a well-brought-up chess player, East resigns mariner1: so into the glue ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © - 51 - © ¨ ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) Board NS: EW: o 3 c 3 © © 8 S N -2 -1 this/total IMPs BTN 142 Djarum 2 156 100 50 8 3 ♠ K J10 4 2 6 AK Q7 6 8 7 K 3 ♣7 3 ♠A Q N ♠9 7 6 5 10 9 8 J3 W E A42 Q J10 S ♣A 8 6 4 2 ♣ K J10 9 ♠83 8 4-7 542 4-5 987653 6 ♣Q5 10 130 W: A HAITANI W 1N p p N: J BOJOH Open E: OCTAVIAN S: L GONTHA N E S 2 p 2 3 p p §A,3,T,5 §8,7,K,Q ªK,7,3,A ª6,8,Q,4 ©5,8,A,3 ¨ © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ª ¨ § ª §© © arigun: bir sorunda yerdeki ©2 imis :9 #1 W:: #3 W:: #5 N:: #7 E:: #9 S:: #2 W:: A,K,Q,5 #4 E:: J,3,4, 6 #6 W:: 2, 2, T,6 #8 W:: 6, T, J, 2 #10 N:: K,J,4,9 tez: Fahir Uzumcu yeni federasyon baskanimiz murat : Likom ˆ stanbul ˆ ampiyonu olarak Antalya’ya geldi. ˆ ok rahat bir ˆ ampiyonluk kazandˆ‰lar. MolvaM: bildiˆ im kadarˆ‰ ile 2. maˆ§lar saat 1300te ama TBF sitesinden bakabilirsiniz MolvaM: vugraf programˆ‰ http://online.bridgebase.com /vugraph/schedule.php ovncylmz: 6kor? vugraphzpv: turnuva programˆ‰nˆ‰ gˆ¶rmek iˆ §in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz vugraphzpv: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=49:2009tuerkye-brc-ampyonalari-talyada-25-nsan-3mayis-2009&catid=50:2008-2009-sezonu& Itemid=99 relrikas : ben ˆ u 1100 un hikayesine bakip gelecegim fazla alisveris olmadigi icin dikkatimi cekti alichengiz: kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k apel ters sayˆ‰ alichengiz: sanˆ‰rˆ‰m Smith Echo da oynuyorlard ˆ‰r, yine kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k Walddk4: http://www.bridgeguys.com/SGlossary /SmithSignals.html alichengiz: evet 3 ’e kontur enteresandˆ‰ tez : alici koza dursun efendi diyecek.. ♣ leri oynayip butun kayiplarini atacakti fahir: swiss birbirine puan olarak yakˆ‰n takˆ‰ mlarˆ‰n birden fazla oynamadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰, danish ise yakˆ‰n skorlu takˆ‰mlarˆ‰n daha ˆ¶nceden karˆ ˆ‰laˆ ˆ‰p karˆ ˆ‰laˆ madan oynadˆ‰klarˆ ‰ movement tˆ…rˆ…dˆ…r alichengiz: oynayan ♣ K’yˆ‰ uˆ§urmanˆ‰n daha iyi olduˆ unu dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nmˆ…ˆ olmalˆ‰ MolvaM: 2 nolu bord diˆ er masada maalesef 3nt oynanmamˆ‰ˆ MolvaM: oynanmˆ‰ˆ MolvaM : dolayˆ‰sˆ‰ ile 4 kˆ¶re gelselerdi filizin nasˆ‰l oynayacaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ gˆ¶remedik MolvaM: siz siz olun sek onˆ¶rlerden puan dˆ…ˆ ˆ …n alichengiz: misfit eli alichengiz: tanrˆ‰ konuˆ anˆ‰ korusun :) alichengiz: aktiv bir el oabilir tez: 1nt de bitecek konusma sanˆ‰yorum..1N vugraphzpv: 1♣ aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰= 12 14 dengeli el, 15 21 trefler yada 18+ herhangi bir el demekmi ˆ alichengiz: Merci Baˆ kan fahir: nedense yanlˆ‰ˆ olarak yerleˆ miˆ bizim ˆ …lkemize alichengiz : ew oyun aˆ§arsa kˆ¶tˆ… bir yere gelebilir MolvaM: sn baˆ kanˆ‰mˆ‰z fahir ˆ…zˆ…mcˆ… teyid etti. saat 13teymiˆ 2. maˆ§lar..2 kabexnuf: nasˆ‰l desinler ki vugraphzpv: sanˆ‰rˆ‰m bu boardˆ‰ 6 oynamazlar alichengiz: diˆ er masada EW 3nt oynuyor bu eli, +1 olacak gibi gˆ¶rˆ…nˆ…yor vugraphzpv: gˆ…nˆ…n son maˆ§ˆ‰nˆ‰ yayˆ‰ nlˆ‰yoruz vugraphzpv: bu maˆ§tan sonra belirlenecek final takˆ‰mlarˆ‰ sas2nt: kor 10 lu empasˆ‰ kor partaj olmayˆ‰ nca da iyi..p fahir: Bu arada bir haberimiz var, bu turnuvanˆ‰ n medya sponsoru Radyo Sport her gˆ…n iki defa canlˆ‰ olarak Antalya’ya baˆ lanarak dinleyicilerine geliˆ meleri aktarˆ‰yor © ¨ - 52 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) vugraphzpv: dimi ˆ¶vˆ…nˆ§ vugraphzpv: oradan 6 kolay ergur: diˆ er masada 1nolu bortta nevzat abi 3 hobakan: iyi akˆ amlar herkese... alichengiz: j2nt oynuyorlaarmˆ‰ˆ anlaˆ ˆ‰ puanla 2 h aˆ§mˆ‰ˆ alichengiz: 4♠ sorunsuz NS iˆ§in alichengiz: swiss tutuˆ larˆ‰ oynuyorlar sanˆ‰rˆ ‰m alichengiz: bu elle 4♣ diyebilir alichengiz: 4 lˆ… tutuˆ dengeli el, kontrol as, 1215 vugraphzpv: A gurubundan 6 B gurubundan 2 takˆ‰m yarˆ‰n final oynayacak alichengiz: yeni renk forcing olmalˆ‰ alichengiz : Son devreye girerken durum: 1Kolbastˆ‰ 273; 2-Pekˆ en 255; 3-Matrix 253; 4Senyˆ¶rler 251; 5-Noname 251; 6-Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ ran 246; 7-Midyat 240; 8-Zabunoˆ lu 218 MolvaM: hakan kontr ile uyandˆ‰rabilecek mi alichengiz: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/ diˆ er detaylar iˆ§in hobakan: teˆ ekkˆ…r ederiz MolvaM : ama kˆ‰sa bir aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰ˆ tˆ¶reni dolayˆ‰sˆ‰ ile biraz gecikme olabilirmiˆ . merak etmeyiniz..2 MolvaM: hazˆ‰r kendisi de buradayken teˆ ekkˆ …rlerimizi sunalˆ‰m TBF’ye relrikas: kˆ¶tˆ… olmuˆ alichengiz: kontrol az tez: vale ♠ e ruayi koyduktan sonraki durumu konusuyorum alichengiz: 4 sorunsuz MolvaM: ˆ ikan ile kontr demek pek hoˆ deˆ il ama ogoksel: doˆ u tarafˆ‰ndan 6 sorunsuz,batˆ‰ tarafˆ‰ndan ataˆ ˆ‰na bilmeye kalˆ‰yor..Deklere edilirmi derseniz bence hayˆ‰r..p tez: ataˆ indan sonra ♠ oynansa batˆ‰yordu ergur: 4h sˆ…perr alichengiz: 4 derse kontroller iyi ergur: 3.♣ h atacaktˆ‰ alichengiz: durumunu bilebilirse oynayan 5 ’ a kadar yapˆ‰labilir NS tarafˆ‰ndan alichengiz: 18. el diˆ er masada 3nt yapˆ‰lˆ‰ nca 14 senyˆ¶rlere, maˆ§a denge geldi fahir: Hergˆ…n 15:15 ve 18:30 da radyodan geliˆ meleri, sonuˆ§larˆ‰ ve briˆ§ ile ilgili diˆ er haberleri izleyebilirsiniz..3 MolvaM: bizlere bu turnuvayˆ‰ en baˆ ˆ‰ndan vugrafta izleme olanaˆ ˆ‰ saˆ ladˆ‰klarˆ‰iˆ§in alichengiz: otaˆ ˆ‰m kontur dese o durumda ˆ§ ok iyi eli var anlarˆ‰m MolvaM: zon durumuna gˆ¶re alichengiz: aˆ§ar el 4 lˆ… tutuˆ alichengiz: ♠ alert edildi, tek sorusu mu acaba? 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kabexnuf: oyleymis..♣T ergur: h pasˆ‰ geˆ§tiˆ i iˆ§in tabii fahir: gˆ…zel baraj alichengiz : A pik pik devamˆ‰na 3 pik 4-5 batabilir tez : rua kuzeyde olsa bu seferde batinin oynamasi gerekiyordu..♣5 ogoksel: koz Q gerˆ§ekten gereklimi? ovncylmz: wow=) alichengiz: yapˆ‰lˆ‰rsa da 2 tur boˆ layˆ‰p karo saˆ lanˆ‰p yapˆ‰labiliyor gerˆ§i alichengiz: ♠ ˆ§ˆ‰karsa hemen 9 arigun: ♣ ciye antre olmadigi icin tercihe bagli 2 verirse 9 love oluyor vugraphzpv: Fikret Aydogdu direktˆ¶r ˆ§aˆ ˆ‰rd ˆ‰ masaya MolvaM: fikret 2♣ e kontr deseydi evet ama 2 XX ’den aˆ zˆ‰ yandˆ‰ 1az arigun: 2 ♣ boslamak kayydiyla vugraphzpv: 2♣ alert edilmedi diye arigun: bu arada ♠ partajina gidebilir vugraphzpv: atak bekletiliyor alichengiz: hmmm arigun: acik oda biraz hizli oynadi galiba oyuncular cikti.. A tez: bosu bosuna dam soruyor MolvaM: evet kandemir’in uzun bir renge gˆ… venerek 3nt dediˆ i belli pikonlu: . relrikas: bi egale board daha sanˆ‰rˆ‰m alichengiz: 4 ta sorun yok, ˆ lem ise mˆ…mkˆ …n deˆ il alichengiz: Gib 3 batar diyor :) arigun: ♠ atagi normal vugraphzpv: board oynatˆ‰lacak karar verilecek ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © alichengiz: yˆ…ksek sesle bu 2♣ ne desek nasˆ ‰l olur Paˆ am? tez: o uzun renk ♠ olamaz.. K MolvaM: ama pik rengini deˆ mek ve olasˆ‰ bir ♠Q ’a kaptˆ‰rma korkusunu anlayabiliyor insan MolvaM: artˆ‰k 7-4 daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰mlˆ‰ ve ˆ ikanlˆ ‰ eller bekliyoruz bilgisayarddan tez: biri dbl deyip atak gosterecek..basina bela alacak.. Q MolvaM: kuzeyin eli ile 2 kˆ¶r e kontr atar mˆ‰ ydˆ‰k MolvaM: gˆ…neyin eli ile kˆ¶r ˆ§ˆ‰kar mˆ‰ydˆ ‰k? ovncylmz: 1nt acisindan sonra 6oynamak cok zor tabi ovncylmz: bu eli upgrade edip 1d-1h-2nt diyenler cikar mi acaba? vugraphzpv: 5 ii mi koray ergur: artˆ‰kdeˆ il relrikas: evet haldun abi 5 e 5♠ demedi alichengiz: 3nt ˆ anslˆ‰ydˆ‰ relrikas: 5 sayˆ‰ aldˆ‰k alichengiz: +1 ˆ§izgisinde gidiyor vugraphzpv : masada bir kahkaha oldu 8li kazanˆ‰nca vugraphzpv: :) begse: pikle kˆ‰saltarak 4 cˆ… kozu alˆ‰yor ancak alichengiz : KG ˆ§ift Odd Even discarding ( Romen Defos) oynuyor olmalˆ‰, ♣ 10 ile ♠ istiyor Tuˆ bars alichengiz: ˆ§ok fazla koz varken genelde yˆ‰ pratma dfansˆ‰ yapˆ‰lˆ‰rsada, kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…kse kozlarˆ‰mˆ‰z ˆ§akaya ˆ§ˆ‰kabiliriz, oyun sonunda yatmamak iˆ§in, kˆ‰salˆ‰rˆ‰z ˆ§ akarak MolvaM: evet. baˆ arˆ‰lˆ‰ atak.. 5 MolvaM: ilginˆ§ bir ˆ ekilde bu kuvvetli ellerde zon yok gibi MolvaM: 5 trefl daha iyi ama o da batacak tez: 5!as sayisinda anlasmazlik oldu relrikas: gerˆ§i ben de demezdim 5♠ MolvaM: trefl atak edilir tabi ki :) alichengiz: ˆ¶yle gˆ¶rˆ…nˆ…yor tez: dam bulamadim 6 diyorum..bulsaydim ˆ eˆ diyecektim:)..♣8 MolvaM: kˆ¶r ataˆ ˆ‰na tabii MolvaM: kontrolu kaybeder ise 3 de batabilir alichengiz: sizlerde de var, BBO alt barˆ‰nda GIB kˆ‰rmˆ‰zˆ‰ iˆ aret, ona tˆ‰klayˆ‰n, el analizlerini gˆ¶sterine tˆ‰klayˆ‰n..♣7 alichengiz: konturlu -3 500 ¨ ¨ © © © ¨ - 54 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) tez: hic bi sampiyonluk rahat kazanilmaz murat:) hobakan: Baˆ kanˆ‰n oynayacaˆ ˆ‰ 3 Sp dbl 5 ..♣K batacaktˆ‰. alichengiz: 3♠ konturlu iyiydi ve fakat Osman ˆ zcan, ˆ igan ile tutmadˆ‰ hobakan: yani 1100 tez: alip koz oynayinca..♠3 MolvaM: kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k marlayˆ‰ gˆ¶ren ortaˆ ˆ‰nˆ ‰z elinde kˆ¶r rua-vale gˆ¶rˆ…nce mutlu oluyor fahir: yarˆ‰n 8 takˆ‰m Danish usulˆ… karˆ ˆ‰ laˆ acaklar..♠A MolvaM: cengo? alichengiz: psiˆ ik free bu maˆ§larda alichengiz: yeter ki ortakla anlaˆ malˆ‰ olmasˆ ‰n MolvaM: ama burada psiˆ ik yok MolvaM: alert edilmeyen 1 konvansiyon var arigun: sola mac sonuna kadar diger boardlarda dahil ♣ atagi yasaklanir, sag tarafin agzina japon yapistirici surulmek suretiyle mac selametle sonuclanir MolvaM: gerˆ§i bu devirde herkesin oynadˆ‰ˆ ˆ ‰ bir konvansiyon ama konumuz o deˆ il alichengiz: maˆ§ 24-6 Pekˆ en lehine bitmez ise veya 25-5 ve ˆ¶tesi, Kolbastˆ‰ Takˆ‰mˆ‰2009 Tˆ…rkiye Aˆ§ˆ‰k takˆ‰mlar ˆ ampiyonu tez: ˆ§ok mantˆ‰klˆ‰ kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k ♠.. 2 tez: ortakta as yaa vale varsa super alichengiz: el aˆ§ar alichengiz: internette pek el aˆ§ˆ‰lmˆ‰yor, canlˆ‰ briˆ§te el belli olduˆ unda, oyuncular genellikle el aˆ§ar vugraphzpv: mola verildi vugraphzpv: Ali Saˆ lam hoˆ geldin tez: bu oyun oynanirken oyuncularin hepsi 3 nt oluyormuydu diyede hesap yapiyor..♠2 alichengiz: thanks for link Roland :) hobakan: bu da 790 oldu tez: yada .. T tez: dam oynarsa 3 batiyor relrikas: 800 yerine 680 iyidir yada 650 mantigiyla bende 5 e pas derdim icerde 5♠ de kalinca 5 imp den oluyoruz tabi haldun abiyle birlikte alichengiz: checkback deˆ ilde walsh oynuyor olabilirler, aˆ§an dengeli ellerle 1♠ demiyorsa 1 ˆ…zerine, 2♣ pik soruyordur.. 6 MolvaM : vugrafta bir sonraki maˆ§ Senyˆ¶rJunior maˆ§ˆ‰. ilginˆ§ bir maˆ§..♠6 tez: yaa=yada MolvaM: bizden ayrˆ‰lmayˆ‰n alichengiz: eˆ it oldu diˆ er masada alichengiz: 400 tez: kuzeyin eliyle konusmak icin sebep goremiyorum.. murat: 7♠ Hatice’yi zorlayacak murat: peki sensei :) relrikas: rakip 6 derse sigorta yapmak zorunda © hissettigim icin 6♠ diyecegim ..♣Q hobakan: karo pasˆ‰ da geˆ§iyor, pik ekspasˆ‰ da MolvaM: hakemlikten anlayanlara soralˆ‰m MolvaM: sizce bu elde hakem ne karar vermeli alichengiz : ˆ imdi ♣ oynanmazsa +1 yapˆ‰ labilr MolvaM: ki ˆ u anda gidiˆ at ˆ¶yle alichengiz: ˆ imdi 3 ˆ§izgisinde MolvaM: hakan karo apeli verdi sanˆ‰rˆ‰m alichengiz : Son devreye girerken durum: 1Kolbastˆ‰ 273; 2-Pekˆ en 255; 3-Matrix 253; 4Senyˆ¶rler 251; 5-Noname 251; 6-Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ ran 246; 7-Midyat 240; 8-Zabunoˆ lu 218 fahir: masada Zafer deklaran olamamaktan ˆ ikayetˆ§i:) habire kontratˆ‰ kaptˆ‰rˆ‰yor:).. J alichengiz: 3nt +1 430 MolvaM: kenan. bayan finalinde son durum ne idi? MolvaM: kˆ¶r 3lˆ… ataˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ soruyor seyirciler.. 3 MolvaM: sorunsuz bir kontrat MolvaM: gˆ…neyde ♠10 olsa idi ilginˆ§ 1 defans olacaktˆ‰ bu fahir: hersene programda dˆ…zeltme yapsak da, son gˆ…n nedense bilgisayarlarda copy-paste yap ˆ‰lˆ‰p tekrar yanlˆ‰ˆ olarak karˆ ˆ‰mˆ‰za geliyor MolvaM: bu durumda kuzey gˆ…ney attitude atak oynuyorlar diye bir varsayˆ‰mda bulunabilirim.. 4 MolvaM: belki yalˆ§ˆ‰n bize bilgi verir? MolvaM : yani elinizde atak ettiginiz renk ne kadar iyi ise o kadar kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k marka ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰ yorsunuz alichengiz: defans 2♣ ve karo asˆ‰nˆ‰ alabiliyor, karo oynandˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda J konursa tabi ki MolvaM: ˆ§ˆ…nkˆ… bu masada da 4 kˆ¶r 2 batmˆ ‰ˆ olmalˆ‰ydˆ‰ alichengiz: 14 ellik maˆ§larda, aradaki farkˆ‰n 3,5’ˆ a bˆ¶lerseniz VP sonucunu bulursunuz MolvaM: son devreye girilirken? relrikas: 12 sayˆ‰ geldi ˆ§ift pasa oynadi levent abim 4 ˆ….. 6 MolvaM: 2♣ alert edilmedi diye 1 yaptˆ‰rˆ‰m uygulanabilir mi KG ˆ§iftine..♠K MolvaM: ama ♠10luyu yerde gˆ¶rˆ…yoruz..♠7 alichengiz: = ¨ ¨ ¨ © - 55 - © © ¨ © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) ♠8 gravity: Arigun karo atagindan sonra pik pasi vugraphzpv: mola verildi alichengiz: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/ sonuˆ§lar alichengiz: 22 sayˆ‰lˆ‰k farka bakarak, bunun ve butler iˆ§in alichengiz: sigara iˆ§mek yasak olduˆ una gˆ¶re, lavabo molasˆ‰dˆ‰r alichengiz: turnuvanˆ‰n dˆ…zenlendiˆ i mekanˆ ‰n iˆ§inde sigara iˆ§mek yasak, aksi durumda her sigara 1VP alichengiz: isteyen iˆ§sin vugraphzpv: turnuvada tamamiyle sigara iˆ§mek yasaktˆ‰r alichengiz : aˆ§ˆ‰k takˆ‰mlardaki turnuva formatˆ‰ ile kadˆ‰nlarˆ‰mˆ‰zˆ‰n formatˆ‰ deˆ iˆ ik alichengiz: kadˆ‰nlar, 2 grup halinde eleme oynuyor alichengiz : dˆ¶rder takˆ‰m final grubuna kalacak ogoksel: ˆ yi denmiˆ bir ˆ lem..♠Q MolvaM: hmm bu olmadˆ‰ alichengiz: Kenan kadˆ‰nlarˆ‰mˆ‰zdan haber istiyoruz ˆ¶bˆ…r devre, ˆ ampiyon belli olacaksan ˆ‰yorum arigun: 3♣ -2 boardunu murat sonuncuda dbl ile uynadirmis bravo..♠4 MolvaM: neyseki gene de batacak..♣6 MolvaM : elde fazladan bir as bulundurmakta yarar var her zaman MolvaM: yoksa boˆ lamayˆ‰ mˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ… yor? MolvaM: deklarasyonu hatˆ‰rla nur tez: yoksa zaten farketmez vugraphzpv: bir sonraki maˆ§ Senyˆ¶r Milli ve Under26 arasˆ‰nda 15 35 de baˆ layacak MolvaM: seyircilerden uyarˆ‰ geldi. kuzeydeki oyuncunun adˆ‰ ercan deˆ il erol diyorlar alichengiz: pik ˆ§ekseydi 3 batˆ‰yordu alichengiz: ˆ imdi 2 ovncylmz: 5kor dogru bence..♠T tez: 2 seviyesinde minorle araya girmek takim maclarinda tehlikeli..♣J MolvaM: eˆ er ˆ¶yle ise kenan’dan dˆ…zeltmesini rica edelim tez: cunku kontra rahatca birakabilir rakip.. 2 tez: super defans yaptilar vugraphzpv: mola verildi.. 5 vugraphzpv: evet bi yanlˆ‰ˆ lˆ‰k olmuˆ ˆ¶zˆ… r herkesten.. 8.. A vugraphzpv: dˆ…zelttim hemen alichengiz: 5 ’da da bir sorun yok ve fakat gelinemedi © © ¨ © © atarak 9 lˆ¶ve icin %100 e oynadi... 3 zor olmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ sˆ¶yleyebiliriz, Kupa ˆ u an Kolbastˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰n elinde %99 alichengiz: pikle ˆ§ˆ‰kar veya Q kozla.. K alichengiz: 7 li koz 500 yine alichengiz: si:) MolvaM: 5 karo oluyordu nasˆ‰l olsa demesi kolay ama deklare edilebilecek miydi? alichengiz: sizin tazˆ‰nˆ‰zˆ‰ yapˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰rˆ‰ p duruyorum alichengiz: yazˆ‰nˆ‰zˆ‰ vugraphzpv: Likom 115 Ege 48 son tura girerken ki durum (bayanlar final maˆ§ˆ‰nˆ‰n) murat: tez? :).. J alichengiz: lavabo molasˆ‰? MolvaM: teˆ ekkˆ…rler.. 4 MolvaM: biliyorsunuz senyˆ¶rler takˆ‰mˆ‰mˆ ‰z avrupa ˆ ampiyonu ˆ…nvanˆ‰na sahip.. 9 MolvaM: saatler ilerledikˆ§e antalya maˆ durlarˆ ‰ yavaˆ yavaˆ yorumcu olarak bize katˆ‰ lmaya baˆ layacaklardˆ‰r eminim MolvaM: o bir dˆ…nya ˆ ampiyonu :) tebrikler © © © © © - 56 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) Board NS: EW: o 3 c 3 © © 8 S N -2 -1 this/total IMPs Djarum 2 156 BTN 142 100 50 8 3 ♠ K J10 4 2 6 AK Q7 6 8 7 K 3 ♣7 3 ♠A Q N ♠9 7 6 5 10 9 8 J3 W E A42 Q J10 S ♣A 8 6 4 2 ♣ K J10 9 ♠83 8 4-7 542 4-5 987653 6 ♣Q5 10 130 W: Piskanto W 1♣ 2N p N: Anthony S Closed S: Kamto N E 1♠ 2♣ p 3 © §K,5,6,3 ¨A,K,Q,3 ªT,5,3,Q ¨4,©7,¨J,6 ©K,J,4, #1 E:: #3 W:: #5 N:: #7 W:: #9 N:: E: Franky K S p p watching the spots diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 92, N-IRELAND 90, ENGLAND 79, CBAI 70, IRELAND 70, WALES 45 **** mariner1: 21 in a barn burner in Open Room we will see where they end up Walddk4: well done to them..1♣ idc: I see some of the missing scores are up Board 2 is quite funny thegarve: no pkl: What will Marray bid? 1NT looks sensible viren169: 1♣ jcomyn: ah 6D mariner1: could see action here,,,,,,, capercliff: 4 is a good spot here capercliff: but that might not stop 4♠ being bid mariner1: I predict EW in 3♠ capercliff: N/S doing need many reasons to bid mariner1: EW in 5 DBL so mistake is minimized to some degree mariner1: that in Open Room on 21 roswolf: hmm this will be a lottery 7♠ is possible..1 © © ♠ mariner1: maybe in 2♠ capercliff: they are aggressive players capercliff: +190 is not a score you often see..2♣ idc: NS can make 3 grand slams, but England §9,Q,A,7 ¨2,©6,¨T,5 ªA,2,6,8 ©A,3,2,8 #2 E:: #4 W:: #6 W:: #8 N:: Walddk4: The Scots bid the slam on 7 just now idc: and we held Jxxxxx and no entry opposite AK doubleton, sigh jallerton : do you also show the 4333 shape, Martin? viren169: I’m off to play in the 24h marathron in a few hours... And I feel tired already! jcomyn: and I have 7 more matches - oh well no rest for the wicked jcomyn: NO ralfwil: NS made 3nt on board no 4 also with a lead! defence must have slipped! jcomyn: everything works here, but slam still too much sharkirl: interesting board now diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 76, SCOTLAND 70, ENGLAND 61, IRELAND 60, CBAI 59, WALES 30 **** ¨ - 57 - mariner1: I was so sure it made that I stopped gained 10 for reaching game when Scotland here thegarve : you can choose to ask for a weak doubleton with declarer qX or worse jcomyn: similar to first half slam petepunt: yes a great contract 6 jcomyn: now that 2S is ok non-vul petepunt: i suspect 4 will be result sharkirl: probably will do well to bid 4 diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 76, SCOTLAND 70, ENGLAND 61, IRELAND 60, CBAI 59, WALES 30 **** mariner1: well I that opening changes things :) lestergold: a coup-le of clubs or nso vs a couple of diamonds idc: could only reach 4 :)..p jcomyn: 2NT-3NT ? lestergold: a part score battle between the minors jallerton: 2 = good raise to 2 ..2N idc : hard to avoid 4 ♠ now - but it does have some slim chances I suppose thegarve: or show a weak doubleton major viren169: 2♣ © ¨ ¨ ¨ © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) © capercliff: 4 direct now? capercliff: yep mariner1: looks like only part scores here othered1 : was east going to pass 2 X for jallerton: but the cards are well placed capercliff: sm to the 8 jallerton: in ♠, and ♣ idc: T lead was perhaps one chance, as long as penalty?..3 declarer ducked first round viren169: Now they will reach the poor 3N roswolf: i would bid 3♠ FORCING and then over 4♠ (which west shoul bid) bid 6 sharkirl: should be able to take finesse for 11 tricks at least santyclz: 12 tricks available, but not expected. mariner1: Scotland lestergold: i would have bid 2d and then come to life if my parner made another noise jcomyn: my wife is a beginner and I would slap her hand if she bid 1H over 1C..♣5 jcomyn: difficult after some jump by E sharkirl: sounds reasonable Geoffrey mariner1: Open made 3N where 4 was off here so 12 imps on board 5 jcomyn: why?..♣6 henryb: just has to hope are 4-4..♣3 henryb: and ♠ 3-2 mdgraham: It seems that South does not like leading his partner’s suit henryb: I think it is against the rules in Estonia based on observations yesterday and today mdgraham: but this lead will worry declarer, until he sees the 4-4 split jcomyn: whats wrong with xx and await developments mariner1: that was board 6 sorry mariner1 : ROI has overtaken N. Ireland! so Scotland in the driver’s seat now! lestergold: one has to remmebe that a neg double doesnt promise the earthso when rebidding one should only jump with a full monty kind of hand idc: This is a good game to reach, some chances of it being missed in the replay..♣9 viren169: That’s why she would bid 1 jcomyn: more imps coming in jcomyn: ha ha ha jcomyn: into a bid suit weird jcomyn: oh sorry through one capercliff: now it cant make..♣Q pkl: Oh - I believed wife-beating to be forbidden during bridge tournaments viren169: I thought 1N rebid showed strong NT? ..♣A sharkirl: difficulty counting her tricks? capercliff: uh oh thegarve: still has chances if are set up..♣7 capercliff: not enough entries © © capercliff: Im assuming S passed what N thought was a forcing bid jallerton: a good method to play transfers from 1NT upwards jcomyn: why not 1D by S? pkl: Okay... 1♣ looks sensible too - especially if your NT range doesn’t comply ;-) pkl: They play Welsh, perhaps? jcomyn: why bid this way? jcomyn: u are right sharkirl: unlikely to get to 4♠ now steshome: Level now ..p ralfwil: with 2 from W E must trust her P and play low! lestergold : adn not high ones either a short auction i expecvt mariner1: well EW could play a ♠ Moysian but will not be found lestergold : north has valued her hand on the slightly optimistic side lestergold: the two jx dont count up to 2 worthwhile points henryb: 3N has good chances..p petepunt : strong NTrumpers may get to 6 though petepunt: after 1D opening! mariner1: and NS cards are well situated over EW capercliff: needs to pick up the , there goes the ¨ ¨ © ♣ mariner1: and the ♣ problem is solved henryb: 4♠ has none..p jallerton: 2NT = 3-card raise? thegarve: 50-50 decisions..... idc: CC says bergen raises, surprised they can have only 3 card support thegarve: 2 must have been and a major rednaxela: Agreed, but AQ109xx is worth more than 6 points. lestergold: and 3d is probably too high mariner1 : Soctland only lost 4 imps on 21, dodges a BIG BULLET idc: the supplementary notes are missing, so no more detail..♣K jallerton: this needs a lot going for it to make capercliff: 2N is prob natural with 3♠ thegarve: intra finesse in ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © ¨ © © - 58 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) © thegarve: now to help jallerton: or ♣ switch jcomyn: purely a hypothetical slap santyclz: Well if there were any doubt about the ¨ location of the q... mariner1: well maybe NS play this as invite sharkirl: surely claim coming up.. A sharkirl: scotland v R.O.I. have just bid 6♣ on this one lestergold: the kind of hand in whioch you had a jump rebid when partner responds at the one levelnorth hand did not qualify for that capercliff: 4♠ is a good save but tough at these colors.. K thegarve: where’s Frazer - "we;re doomed" ralfwil: What can 2 be? fourth best or what else? capercliff: down 1 now mariner1: CBAI can pick up on 7 too to close this match up jcomyn: perhaps N felt her hand worth a strong NT rebid.. Q.. 3 pkl: Hypothetical slaps seems proper for hypothetical auctions rednaxela : I must admit that the South hand would be too weak for me to double at the 2 level on. Only 2 points outside their suit. petepunt: claim time.. 2 santyclz: 3 slams available, but that isn’t one of them. jcomyn: 11 tricks.. 6 mdgraham : under different circumstances, ducking that diamond may have been very dangerous .. T mariner1: oh I agree, however NS might not play it the way we think idc: stupid boy.. 5 diumraid: ****** In Running Scores ******* LIVE from LIMERICK ********- N-Ireland 22, CBAI 17, SCOTLAND 15, ENGLAND 15, IRELAND 13, WALES 8 tihas: it was a mistake, because N could have had 3 spades..♠T..♠5 mdgraham: picture North with ♠Qxx and KQJ, and now a heart at trick 2 defeats the contract idc: ok, the Dad’s Army catchphrase competition is hereby opened.. ralfwil: How many can S have after showing 44 in majors?..♠3 ralfwil: in that case a 6-card ♣! thegarve: in a tough contract I always recommend "Don’t panic, don’t panic!"..♠Q ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ © ¨ - 59 - sharkirl: and wales have bid 6 © also on Board 6 - the ’horror show’..♠A tihas: and even at trick 3..♠2 mdgraham: yes..♠6 henryb: and N could have switched to the K and ensured 5 tricks! viren169: Now South has at least an invite... ..♠8 mariner1: and now another opening for CBAI idc: I suspect the play has diverged from what we are seeing .. 4 roswolf: :(:).. 7 capercliff: the only time running the 10 is wrong is when it is KQ doubelton on right capercliff: highly unlickely capercliff: unlikely even lestergold: the prob with south is taht without the intevention she had aresponse with two four card majors- it is rickbottom but a neg double doesnot have to have the same requirements a sa 2 ..... J.. 6 lestergold: over 1 response mariner1: J now!.. A lestergold : because her 1 level options were removed by the intervention mariner1: no reason not to play J.. 3 lestergold: i think north is at fault here for nor extending sufficient slack tyo south.. 2 viren169: most would bid 2N/3 /3N over 2 .. 8.. K mariner1: well does not matter.. J.. 4 © ¨ © ¨ © © © ¨ © © © © ¨ © © ¨ Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) Board NS: EW: o 3N c 6 ¨ 9 9 W 6 E 6 this/total IMPs BTN 12 154 Djarum 156 690 1370 1 ♠K 8 5 4 2 9764 1 1 964 4 ♣Q J ♠J963 N ♠A72 Q10 8 AK J W E A2 KQ875 3 S ♣AK 9 2 ♣6 ♠ Q10 12 11 532 11 J10 12 ♣10 8 7 5 4 3 9 1440 W: A HAITANI W 1♠ 3N N: J BOJOH Open E: OCTAVIAN S: L GONTHA N E S p 1 p p 3 p p p p ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ #1 N:: 7,K,2,8 #2 E:: 3,T,A,4 #3 W:: 2,6,K,J MolvaM: aslˆ‰nda 2 batacaktˆ‰. ama 50 puanˆ ‰ nelere vermiyoruz ki ovncylmz: 5c pass forsing degildir bu arada vugraphzpv: irfan pass forsing olmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ ‰ sˆ¶ylˆ…yor vugraphzpv: kendi insiyatif almˆ‰ˆ ovncylmz: :) kabexnuf: olmamsi lazim zaten vugraphzpv: bˆ¶yle bakˆ‰lˆ‰rsa 5 ii deˆ il bence vugraphzpv: ona rahmen 5 ii mi diyorsun ˆ¶vˆ …nˆ§ ergur: 2 bort 1sp ye dbl dendiˆ i iˆ§in 4h bulamam ˆ‰ˆ lar 5cl -1 olmuˆ 2h dese muhtemelen egale olurdu relrikas: gˆ…zel claim :) tez: kubac 3nt dedigi icin ♣ partajina oynamaktansa ♠ empasina oynayayim dedi relrikas: tabi loveler alˆ‰nmayˆ‰nca aynˆ‰ oyun burda swing getirdi alichengiz: smith echo iˆ§in Roland Waldk link verdi, anlaˆ maˆ a baˆ lˆ‰dˆ‰r, UDCA oynayanlar © © kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k verirler beˆ endim demek iˆ§in, Standart cardinciler genelde bˆ…yˆ…k relrikas: pik3-3 33 civari yuksek yuzdeli oyun batiyor bu el iˆ§in alichengiz: Carding alichengiz: buradan ˆ§ˆ‰kan 8 takˆ‰m yine 2 ye bˆ¶lˆ…nˆ…p oynayacaklar gruplarˆ‰nda 1. olanlar final 2. olan 3-4 oynayacak tez: vugrafta oynamanin dayanilmaz hafifligi vugraphzpv: mehmet barˆ‰ˆ kˆ‰zdˆ‰ biraz alichengiz: biraz mˆ‰? :) alichengiz: ew 4 alichengiz: ne aˆ§acak acaba Nafiz relrikas: murat 1♣ acar tahminimce alichengiz: ew 4 alichengiz: karo ataˆ ˆ‰ kritik yine vugraphzpv: B gurubunun son durumu ise vugraphzpv: Antalya BK1.(199) alichengiz: part skor yarˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ vugraphzpv: No name1 2.(197) vugraphzpv: ˆ imentaˆ 3. (195) alichengiz: kimsede 8 kart koz yok hobakan: ara mˆ‰? vugraphzpv: Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran4.(192) vugraphzpv: Kasapoglu ve Maksoy-Deniz takip eden takˆ‰mlar alichengiz: 1 pas 1nt 2 2 pas pas olabilir MolvaM: pazar sabahˆ‰ndan beri 4 oyuncu da masaa MolvaM: masada MolvaM: ciddi bir dayanˆ‰klˆ‰lˆ‰k gˆ¶stergesi hem fiziksel hem kafasal alichengiz: ˆ ampiyona ile ilgili bilgiler http:// www.tbricfed.org.tr/ MolvaM: tebrik etmek gerek kendilerini arigun: bu arada diger masada line-up yanlis faik abi su an yanimda (bilmedigimiz bir ikizi yoktur heralde9 orhan ekinci oynuyor vugraphzpv: yok muhabbet oldu alichengiz: maˆ§ otasˆ‰nda adettir de :) vugraphzpv: aralarˆ‰nda konuˆ uyorlar sadece MolvaM: sonuˆ§ olarak toplam 20 onˆ¶r puanˆ‰ var tez: o elle 2♣ denmez demedim..yanlis anlasilmasin..p murat: Bence Mersin iˆ§in bir iˆ kazasˆ‰ daha oldu. MolvaM: bˆ…tˆ…n keycardlar tamamken grandˆ leme uˆ§up batma riski yˆ…ksek olabilir. tez: 7♣ rahat oluyor..1 tez: 2 nt acisindan sonra minor gelisimlerini iyi anlasmak gerekiyor murat: 1 aˆ§sa ˆ§ok rahat gelirlerdi.. ˆ imdi © © © ¨ © ¨ © - 60 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) ortaklˆ‰k anlaˆ malarˆ‰na baˆ lˆ‰ tez: ben ortagimla nasil oynadigimi yazayim..isteyen izleyici not alsin tez: 2nt 3♠=3 nt ye transfer..ortak 3 nt demek zorunda tez: 3nt ye 4♣=♣ ten slem daveti+ tez: 4 = slem daveti+ tez: 4 =5li ♣ 4lu slem daveti+ tez: 4♠= dan slem daveti+ tez: 4nt=5/5 minor pala: . tez: 4♠=5li 4lu ♣ slem daveti+ olacakti ozur murat: devamˆ‰nda bu elle ne diyorsun Tez ? vugraphzpv: gˆ…ney oyuncusu dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ… yor tez: 4nt ye sanzatu acan minoru secer..cevapci bir ustuyle keykartlari sorar tez: bu el soyle giderdi yani murat: 1 murat: :) tez: 2nt 3♠ 3nt 4nt 5♣ 5 5♠ 7♣ tez: eger 2 nt actiysak tez: ben 1 acardim tez: izleyicilere tek tek yazamam ozur..yazmayin lutfen MolvaM: bu maˆ§taki ilk ˆ lem elimiz tez: rakip zonda kendileri beyaz diye bu 14 ile sanzatu acmayi tercih etti tez: as sayisini bile karistiriyor insan:) alichengiz: 6 evet alichengiz: 1 konturlu oynatˆ‰lmasˆ‰ kˆ¶tˆ … deˆ il hobakan: 14-16 olabilir. alichengiz: keˆ ke, Konvensiyon katlarˆ‰da ( ortaklˆ‰k anlaˆ ma kartˆ‰) olsa da sitede, yorumcular faydalansa alichengiz: 4 e gelebilirler, karo ˆ§akasˆ‰ bulunursa batacak..p alichengiz: 1♣ 1 2nt all pas? relrikas: X alichengiz: 21 de ki maˆ§ta, 4. maˆ§larˆ‰nda oynamayan oyuncular burada olacaktˆ‰r, yorumcu bol olur :) alichengiz: Merhaba Ali Bey carleone22: selam alichengiz: bir yerde atlamasalar kazanˆ§lˆ‰ olacaklardˆ‰, ˆ imdi 3 sayˆ‰ verdiler alichengiz: karo ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lmazsa hiˆ§ batmˆ‰ yor alichengiz: ♠ ler saˆ lanˆ‰r ve k kaˆ‰plarˆ‰ ♠ ˆ…zerine atˆ‰lˆ‰r ovncylmz: board 22 skorunu goremiyorum ben ¨¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ © © © ¨ - 61 - su anda..1♠ gravity: 5h e 5pik bordu relrikas: bu maˆ§lar sonunda bugun noktalanˆ‰ rken A grubundan 16 takˆ‰m puanlarˆ‰nˆ‰ koruyarak yarˆ‰n aynˆ‰ gruptan devam edecekler B grubundan ise 4 takˆ‰m ˆ§ˆ‰kacak alichengiz: oo alichengiz: da bulmak zor relrikas: pas 1 alichengiz: nt aˆ§ˆ‰nca kritik 5i renkle davt gelecektir MolvaM: ˆ leme gitmek iˆ§in iyi bir el deˆ il ˆ§ˆ… nkˆ… pikler 2-2 daˆ ˆ‰lmamˆ‰ˆ ..p MolvaM: likom takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰ tebrik ediyoruz. alichengiz: o zaman, Bayanlarda, Belis Atalay, Mey Zaim, Hatice ˆ zgˆ…r, Eren ˆ zan (ˆ Stanbullular) ˆ pekSaˆ tekin, Filiz Uygan’dan oluˆ an Lˆ kom Takˆ‰ˆ‰nˆ‰ ˆ ampiyon ilan etmeˆ e yakˆ‰nˆ ‰z tez: diger odadaki konusma saniyorum yanlis girildi..3 MolvaM: 4 kˆ¶r batˆ‰rmasˆ‰ zor bir kontrat gibi MolvaM: 6 ve 6NT olasˆ‰ MolvaM: tabi ki 6karo daha iyi kontrat relrikas: ve en alttaki 4 takim 13-16 puanlarini 14 seklinde kopyalayip yeni gune baslayacaklar gravity: bu bordun diferansi cok fazla olabilir eger 4pike kalˆ‰rsa alichengiz: anlaˆ ˆ‰lan Support Double oynamˆ ‰yorlar, aksi halde 3 tane le rdbl demesi gerekirdir hobakan: 15-17 imiˆ sanˆ‰rˆ‰m vulkan: :) alichengiz: son 2 oyuncu Ankara’lˆ‰ MolvaM: ama 4 kˆ¶re ulaˆ masˆ‰ da zor..p MolvaM: olamaz MolvaM: bakalˆ‰m soner ve ercan ˆ‰n frenler saˆ lam mˆ‰ fahir: Kursat Ozsahin de aramˆ‰zda yorumlara yardˆ‰mcˆ‰ olacak ergur: 3nt uygun kontrat tez: baraj amacli 1 nt acisi:) relrikas: birde atak eden ile ortagi farkli sekilde verenler var ki karisikliga en cok yol acabilecek olandˆ‰r; tercih etmiyorum smith echo icin ya hep buyuk ya hep kucuk hobakan: Trfel Rua ogoksel: hmmm.3NT 4-4 M mˆ… demekti acaba? ..3N tez: naturel sekans soyle olabilirdi MolvaM: neyse :) alichengiz: :) ¨ ¨ ¨ © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) ergur: 3nt ˆ imdi alichengiz: 5 li kˆ¶tˆ… kˆ¶rle nt aˆ§mayˆ‰ yeˆ ledi arigun: ilave ♣ durumunda da biraz sorun var pasam tez: 3nt 44 major demekmis fakat kuzey anlamamis yada 3nt yi tercih etmis..p tez: takim arkadasi bu bilgiyi veriyor gravity: atakci dbl attigi icin rdbl dˆ…sˆ…nˆ… yor olabilir alichengiz: 6? alichengiz: hangi 6 hobakan : 2 pik : naturelde 2 NT diyecek el oynuyorlar. vugraphzpv: bir sonraki maˆ§ Senyˆ¶r Milli ve Under26 arasˆ‰nda 15 35 de baˆ layacak..p MolvaM: artˆ‰k sˆ‰ra geldi favori konvansiyonumuza tez: ♠ atagini birakacak alichengiz: rakibin kafasˆ‰nˆ‰ karˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰ rmak iˆ§in tek borlarda ben bˆ…yˆ…k vereyim sen kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k, ˆ§ift bordlarda tersi dersin, stresle teki ˆ§ifti karˆ‰tˆ‰rˆ‰p papaz olursun hobakan: ile pik rua arasˆ‰nda MolvaM: orasˆ‰nˆ‰ deklaranˆ‰ doˆ u yaparak halledebilirdik alichengiz: her ˆ eyin kˆ¶tˆ… olduˆ u bir gˆ…n MolvaM: oyunun nasˆ‰l yapˆ‰lacaˆ ˆ‰ deklaran aˆ§ˆ‰sˆ‰ndan ˆ§ok net belli deˆ il ˆ u an MolvaM: ercan bˆ…tˆ…n 17leri 18 olarak mˆ… talaa ediyor gibi :)..p vugraphzpv: _ gravity: diger taraftan dbl gelse rdbl diyemezdi, cakalarla batirirlardi korkusundan. relrikas: -650 ye karsi -200 10 imp daha yˆ‰lank ˆ‰ran ankara diyordum tam bi anda -400 6imp ye donuyor sanˆ‰rˆ‰m relrikas: 2 burda 6li kor orta el pikonlu: 5 korun kontursuz oynanma sansˆ‰ yok :) relrikas : bu tip deklereye yakˆ‰n olmayan seyircilerimiz iˆ§in relrikas: bu masada oyle relrikas: iˆ§erdede oyle olur sanˆ‰rˆ‰m alichengiz: 6 ’da ♠ kayˆ‰plarˆ‰ kˆ¶re kaˆ§ˆ ‰lˆ‰yo, ˆ§aka ile 5 koz 5 1♣ ve ♠ hobakan: yazacaktˆ‰m hobakan: neyse ben herkese teˆ ekkˆ…r edeyim. akˆ ama gˆ¶rˆ…ˆ ˆ…rˆ…z alichengiz: diˆ er masada da yapˆ‰ldˆ‰ 4 alichengiz: defans zor iˆ vugraphzpv: teˆ ekkˆ…rler ˆ zgˆ…r BAKAN alichengiz: teˆ ekkˆ…rler ˆ¶zgˆ…r :) hobakan: ben teˆ ekkˆ…r ederim. burdayˆ‰m bi © ¨ © © yere gitmiyorum daha hobakan: ama yetiˆ emiyorum kusuruma bakmay ˆ‰n:) MolvaM: ˆ u an masadaki oyuncular en son 1972 de konvansiyon kartˆ‰ hazˆ‰rlamˆ‰ˆ lardˆ‰r muhtemelen MolvaM: mˆ…nih olimpiyatlarˆ‰ vesilesi ile alichengiz : Tˆ…rkiye ikili iˆ§in acele edin seyirci arkadaˆ lar, hala zaman var, yarˆ‰n ˆ¶ˆ leyin baˆ lˆ‰yor, haydi Antalya’ya alichengiz: bir tek ’ler iyi alichengiz: -2 mˆ…mkˆ…n tez: ben kaciyorum..benim kizlar mactan cikmak uzere.. 7 tez: 1 2 3♣ 4♣ 4 4 4nt 5 5nt 7♣.. MolvaM: bu arada doˆ u-batˆ‰ gˆ…zel bir partskorunu kaˆ§ˆ‰rdˆ‰ tez: empas yapacak alichengiz: daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰m kˆ¶tˆ…, trefler ve kˆ¶ rler bozuk hobakan: Baˆ kan da sen 2 Nt desen ben pass diyecektim anlamˆ‰nda 2 NT dedi alichengiz: 2nt yˆ…ksek ihale alichengiz: Hemˆ ehrilerim, Gˆ…l Tercan, Serap Carfi, Dilek Kundakˆ§ˆ‰, Nihal Matracˆ‰, (Gˆ …zel ˆ zmir) Dilek Yavaˆ (Bursa) Mine Babaˆ§ ( istanbul) MolvaM: hmm bunu beˆ enmedim.. K alichengiz: tek ˆ§ift verenlerde varmˆ‰ˆ alichengiz: hayyatta her ˆ ey mˆ…mkˆ…n, yeter ki ne dediˆ imizi ortaˆ ˆ‰mˆ‰z anlasˆ‰n alichengiz: 3 nt karo ˆ§ˆ‰klmasza olacaktˆ‰, Vera tarafˆ‰ndan karo ˆ§ˆ‰kmak imkansˆ‰z gibi ergur: alla yardˆ‰mcˆ‰larˆ‰olsun alichengiz: kartlarˆ‰n lokasyonu izin vermez MolvaM: grandˆ lem kaˆ§ˆ‰rma ihtimali var.. 2 gravity: bence bu borddan ne cikicagi belli olmaz, 6pik dbl lˆ‰ da gelebilir ergur: h:) tez: keykart sormanˆ‰n ne zarari var..belkide 7 oynarˆ‰z.. 8 MolvaM: ama neyseki bu elde sorun yok vugraphzpv: doˆ u batˆ‰ 2 zayˆ‰f bir majˆ¶r yada 18 19 dengeli el(5li majˆ¶r olabilir) MolvaM: 5nt? vugraphzpv: oynuyorlar pikonlu: :) gravity: :) alichengiz: 3 karo pasˆ‰ geˆ§mesede yapˆ‰lˆ ‰yor, piki alˆ‰p 2 tur koz ˆ§ekip kˆ¶re kayˆ‰ plarˆ‰nˆ‰ kaˆ§arken ˆ§aksada sorunyok © © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ - 62 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) alichengiz: ˆ imdi ♠ Q koaybilirse ♠ e ¨ yu atˆ ‰p ˆ§akadan kurtulabilir alichengiz: veya J iˆ te alichengiz: Q ♣ antre pik Asˆ‰ iˆ§in alichengiz: ama bunlarˆ‰ ne oynayan bilebilir ne de defans alichengiz: empas atˆ‰p batmak var alichengiz: Dbl sonra cubid edip sonra tutmak, destenin yarˆ‰sˆ‰ bende demek carleone22: eymen bedir-- hakan goksu cifti 318 Ekim 2008 tarihlerinde Pekin/ˆ in’de yapˆ‰ lan dunya sampˆ‰yonasˆ‰nda brˆ‰c mˆ‰llˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰mˆ‰zda yer almˆ‰slardˆ‰ alichengiz: kˆ¶r markalarˆ‰ ve daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰mˆ‰ oldukˆ§a iyi 6 uygun alichengiz: apel sistemlerini bilmiyorum, !j ne ister emin deˆ ilim, sekans gˆ¶steriyor olmalˆ‰, Q yu inkar eder alichengiz: !j alichengiz: onlar geeˆ§en yˆ‰l olduˆ u gibi 2. olacaklar gibi MolvaM: 4 kadar yapabileceklerdi.. 3 fahir: karo damˆ‰nˆ‰ doˆ ru tespit ederse kolay relrikas: ilginˆ§ oldu 4♠ XX li tam korkusundan imp vermedi ahmet abi rakibe alichengiz: dummy reversal bile yapˆ‰labilir :) MolvaM: haldun vahaboˆ lu 8 lˆ¶veyi gayet gˆ… zel toplamˆ‰ˆ aˆ§ˆ‰k odada MolvaM: 6 ?.. T MolvaM: 6♣? belki de MolvaM: insanˆ‰n aklˆ‰na grandˆ lem hevesi dˆ …ˆ meyegˆ¶rsˆ…n MolvaM: deklare etmeden rahat edemez relrikas: bu arada pas pas gitti :) alichengiz: ˆ imdi daha rahat relrikas: ♣ te dam oldugu icin ortagin ♣ puanlari pik acigini kapatmaya yarayabilir relrikas: tabi pik atak gelmezse alichengiz: +1 yapˆ‰labilyor MolvaM: acaba biz farketmeden keycard sorulmu ˆ olabilir mi?.. A ovncylmz: ben demekte hic bir sakinca gormuyorum 5 alichengiz: ♠ e ne kaˆ§alˆ‰m? alichengiz: 3 MolvaM: bu devirde kimin ne zaman keycard sorduˆ u belli olmuyor.. 4 MolvaM: netekim fahir: karo ataˆ ˆ‰ iˆ i kolaylaˆ tˆ‰rdˆ‰ fahir: kˆ¶r pasˆ‰ endike, pik dam da uˆ§unca Kolbastˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰ iˆ§in iyi bir skor olacak vugraphzpv: emrah sen oyunu yaptˆ‰rdˆ‰klarˆ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © - 63 - ¨ ¨ ¨ ‰nˆ‰ anladˆ‰ sanˆ‰rˆ‰m gravity: bi forcing pass anlasmazligi oldu sanirim K-G de alichengiz: ♣ partaˆ mˆ‰? tez: ♣ donecek ve 2 iceri.. 2 kabexnuf: nasˆ‰l 7 olacak ki 18-19 dedikten sonra.. 6 kabexnuf: Q piki biliyor rua tref sˆ‰ˆ mˆ‰yor fahir: pik atak gelsede 6 karo oluyor ama gitmek zor karar MolvaM: herhalde atak etmeyi dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nmˆ… yor.. K MolvaM: kˆ¶r empasˆ‰ndan baˆ ka mantˆ‰klˆ‰ seˆ§enek yok MolvaM: ama deklaran muhtemelen 8 dk sˆ… rede oynayˆ‰p bizleri ve rakipleri bayˆ‰ltacak tez: kucuk donulurse alichengiz: karo ˆ§akasˆ‰ mˆ‰ var? alichengiz: 6 her ataˆ a oluyor alichengiz: ˆ imdi batar artˆ‰k alichengiz: 3nt iyiydi ve fakat.. tez: artˆ‰k 1.. J tez: cok batabilir alichengiz: Partaj alichengiz: Eminim ˆ¶nˆ…mˆ…zdeki yˆ‰llarda ˆ ampiyon olacaklardˆ‰r MolvaM: grandˆ lem diˆ per masada da bulunamam ˆ‰ˆ tez: oynayan icin hicbisey uygun degil ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) Board NS: EW: o 3N c 6 9 ¨ 9 this/total IMPs Djarum 156 BTN 12 154 690 1370 W 6 E 6 1 ♠K 8 5 4 2 9764 1 1 964 4 ♣Q J ♠J963 N ♠A72 Q10 8 AK J W E A2 KQ875 3 S ♣AK 9 2 ♣6 ♠ Q10 12 11 532 11 J10 12 ♣10 8 7 5 4 3 9 1440 W: Piskanto W N: Anthony S Closed S: Kamto N E p 1 p 3 p 4 p 5 p 6 p E: Franky K ¨ ¨ © © ¨ 1♠ 4 5♣ 6♣ p ¨ ª ¨ #1 S:: Q,3,8,A #3 W:: 2,6,Q,J S p p p p p ¨ ¨ § #2 E:: 3,T,A,4 #4 E:: K, 4,, tihas: wait, wasnt it actually a smart play, if S has 5 diamonds and 3♠, then it ensures winning the contract idc: If not, the English npc would be in the bar already thegarve: aha w’re back to Noah’s ark viren169: Is that part of the system? pkl: You deserved it, I’m sure ;-) pkl: What do you play? "Acol with gentle whacks " jcomyn: where will this end jcomyn: can get too high here santyclz: And yet the potential has certainly been there. mariner1: Alex you need to at least be sure the champagne is being chilled :) jallerton: 2 = 5 , 4+ in a minor..p jallerton: 4 good NS..1 © © © ¨ capercliff: yes but hard to find? petepunt: running score diarmuid is ? petepunt: 4♠ jcomyn: 5H petepunt: -1 jcomyn: wont now after pass ralfwil: 4 on NS? mariner1: can NS steal this one? mariner1: 4 and out here mariner1: not to open 4 though lestergold: well 4h looks another infrango lestergold: dont mess around bidit rednaxela: Long way to go yet, Rob. capercliff: is there something on E/W?..p henryb: no. S could have switched to a at trick © © © © 2..1♠ tihas: because declarer can control, who gets the ♠ trick, depending on what suit the defence has opened up henryb: then the defense has 5 tricks steshome: Not hard to find - just hard to make toobad: yep ralfwil: I had opened on N jcomyn : I would never pass as N with that singleton and a good outside suit mdgraham: can East tell whether the diamonds are 5-3 or 4-4? ..p jallerton: duck a santyclz: If 4♣ were natural I’d have opened with that which probably would doom the thand. mariner1: yes nice transfer steshome: Obvious 2NT..3 thegarve: yes - not so tough capercliff: E/W doing there best jcomyn: tell you my wife’s whacks aint gentle diumraid: **** IN RUNNING LIVE LADY MILNE **** N-IRELAND 35, CBAI 34, IRELAND 33, SCOTLAND 30, ENGLAND 26, WALES 22 ***** petepunt: may have made a simple raise with E jcomyn: 4S now petepunt: yes , a cheap advance save jcomyn: WHY not X for heavens sake jcomyn: oh something else diumraid: **** IN RUNNING LIVE LADY MILNE **** N-IRELAND 35, CBAI 34, IRELAND 33, SCOTLAND 30, ENGLAND 26, WALES 22 ***** toobad: 6h on a sunny day? jcomyn: no danger toobad: s shouldnt get carried away now sharkirl: 3nt now ¨ ¨ ¨ - 64 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) mariner1: true however you and either celebrate with it, or drown your sorrows....... chill it mariner1: now :) rednaxela: Okay. Will do. mariner1: 4 now S and out lestergold: south doesnt like fast arrivals capercliff: interesting choice 2N I would have X..p jcomyn: what? petepunt: not convinced, east bid 4 , but wd jcomyn: S pass? ralfwil: then it must be very sunny..4 sharkirl: mousey mariner1: EW make 3N however hard to get in here capercliff: do we think W was a little too cautious here? jallerton: fine unless partner bids clubs..p toobad: hand like a foot capercliff: N/S playing a weak nt tihas: if S switches to at trick 2, then declarer can play spades from the top and win..4 thegarve: also having exposing the KQ of ♣ and KQJ of declarer should be able to pick up the © © ¨ © © ¨ © pkl: Limit is eight tricks - but who would play there? jcomyn: missing 3 aces - thats an Irish slam toobad: always in Ireland toobad: exactly!! santyclz: May get to 4 . sharkirl: no 3nt6 santyclz: What do you bid with the s hand if play © transfer responses over 1♣? thegarve: some use 1♠ as a catch all no major, best is 3 NF mariner1: I would have bid this same way lestergold: well this is fast for here i suppose steshome: Surely only if you could remove 3♣ to 3 without showing extras?..p capercliff: then I bid idc: Scotland only reached 3 in other room on last hand, so a swing coming for England idc: It started 1 Dbl 2 , a big underbid, and that was that viren169: More imps headed to Wales here viren169: prefer 3♣ by East jcomyn: now 4S ralfwil: I have heard that it rains once a day on Ireland! toobad: i would open the N hand 24/7 lestergold: better go up with that q and finesse ¨ ¨ ¨ © - 65 - © © lestergold: a one entry dummy lestergold: and it needs to be used now mariner1: danger is 4 - 1 in E, nothing to do if in W lestergold: many dfangers mlost of which you can do nothing about thegarve: 11 for us Jeffrey?..5♣ capercliff: yes but that would require playing before trumps jcomyn: and thats that mdgraham: 64 imps in eight boards, with one flat. Not bad ..p othered1: with kind splits, this is no problem henryb: no. South wins ♠, leads to A and N cashes 2 tricks tihas: sry, correct, the switch at trick 2 beats it thegarve: Don;t panic.... jallerton: Yes, Martin. That would be Roland’s line in 6 idc: may want to do that anyway, since trumps best entry for after this lead thegarve: so making 12 then thegarve: West never bothered to bid 1♠ mariner1: true lestergold: yep she will make it jcomyn: good grief..5 viren169: need to be careful not to block them.....p sharkirl: ck laed? sharkirl: home now othered1: I’ll retract no problem, as this needs some care..6♣..p capercliff: can you believe 4 went down 3 in the other room on 7? jcomyn: once? are you serious - at least 3 times..6 ¨ ¨ © © ¨ © © ¨ lestergold: well done lestergold: ace hts and claim rednaxela: Yes, but not quickly! lestergold: well what else? mariner1: A would be on table already diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNNG **** © LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 91, N-IRELAND 88, ENGLAND 81, IRELAND 72, CBAI 71, WALES 43 **** rednaxela: Think. Think. Think. Then A . Claim. lestergold: if i was playing thye next hand would be on it santyclz : Awful contract with 1 redeaming feature...p capercliff : starting with 3 here is a strong action..p © ¨ Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) idc: that’ll frighten england - they don’t like it up ’em you know santyclz: The bidding has been so unenterprizing I wonder if they have given up or these are their normal methods. jcomyn: I know I am hallucinating..p toobad: thats a myth Ralf sharkirl: yes making:)..♠Q..♠3 mariner1: still only a 3 VP lead... very close lestergold: phew... if ur scottish jallerton: this is not pleasant for declarer - she knows all the suits are not breaking..♠8 capercliff: 2N just looks wrong to me with a stiff ♣ viren169: run of the ♣s will make life difficult for N/S othered1: and declarer has found a winning line.. ♠A..¨3 mariner1: E ruffing ♠ with natural trump trick mariner1: does seem unusual petepunt: 5 stll cheap but 4♠ cheaper.. T idc : mmm, some of those catchphrases are ¨ ¨ unfortunately capable of more than one meaning..... A othered1: here, low ♠ keeps control.. 4 steshome : Yes, vulnerable too. She took a perfectly normal action though. Important not to get disheartened. jcomyn: thats what I mean sharkirl: std lead CK ?.. 2.. 6 steshome: An imp gained on the previous board when England played in 4♠ rather than 3NT.. Q capercliff: wont risk the finesse ralfwil: claim 10 tricks 1 ♠ + 1 + 1♣ trick for the defence. (1 ♣ can be discarded on ♠Q) capercliff: after ruffing the .. J viren169: run the ♣s and exit a .. K idc: it looks wrong to me too, but I think I still prefer it to any of the alternatives..♣4 ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨¨ ©¨ ¨ Board NS: EW: o 2 c 2 10 © ¨ E W -1 -1 this/total IMPs BTN 154 Djarum 156 100 100 10 9 ♠J64 7 Q85 7-6 7 AQ5 8 ♣A J 9 7 ♠Q N ♠K 9 7 5 2 AK J 10 7 6 4 W E J10 9 6 4 K2 S ♣10 6 3 2 ♣Q 8 ♠ A10 8 3 4 5 932 5-6 873 5 ♣K 5 4 4 600 W: A HAITANI W ¨ N: J BOJOH Open E: OCTAVIAN S: L GONTHA N E S p p p 2 p p © 1 p § § © ¨ ¨ ¨ © © ª © ª ¨ ¨ § ª §© ¨ § ª ©ª © ¨ © ª #1 S:: 4,2,A,8 #2 N:: 7,Q,K,3 #3 S:: 5,6,9, 4 #4 E:: 2,3,Q,4 #5 W:: J,A,2,8 #6 N:: J, T, 3, T #7 E:: K,7,4,5 #8 E:: 5,8, J, 6 #9 W:: T,Q, 7,9 #10 S:: 3,K,5,6 #11 W:: A,8, 7, 2 #12 W:: 6, Q, 9,T #13 N:: J,K,A, 9 tez: operator soracak ˆ imdi vugraphzpv: 4 as sorusuymuˆ MolvaM: evet teˆ ekkˆ…r Kenan MolvaM: en doˆ rusu fahir: maˆ§ oldukˆ§a alˆ‰ˆ veriˆ li geˆ§iyor ergur: yˆ…ksek iˆ lem hacmi.) alichengiz: Merhaba alichengiz: 4 veya 3nt EW alichengiz: Merhaba Kˆ…rˆ at bey carleone22: selam alichengiz: diˆ er masada bu elde 5♣ e gelindi alichengiz: EW tarafˆ‰ndan MolvaM: 3nt evet :) vugraphzpv: bu arada finallere kalan takˆ‰mlarˆ ‰ yazayˆ‰m vugraphzpv: Senyˆ¶r Milli Midyat Bel. vugraphzpv: Noname1 Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran © - 66 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) vugraphzpv: Matrix Zabunoglu vugraphzpv: Kolbasti Peksen begse: bu elde ˆ¶nce pik ˆ§aksa 10 lˆ¶ve yapˆ‰ begse: slm lar MolvaM: pikler uygun olduˆ u iˆ§in 3nt gˆ…zel yordu MolvaM: evet uzun turnuvayˆ‰ 4 kiˆ ilik ekip ile alichengiz: 0.124 demek daha doˆ ru vugraphzpv: bayanlarˆ‰n ilk devre maˆ§ sonuˆ§ bu kadar baˆ arˆ‰lˆ‰ tamamlamak takdire deˆ er tez: seyircilere bilgi..oynayanlar masada oynuyor..bilgisayar operatoru masada olup biteni bize iletiyor..p alichengiz: 4 EW alichengiz: diˆ er masa alichengiz: burada da aynˆ‰ olur sanˆ‰rˆ‰m alichengiz: 4♠? arigun: gecen el, acik oda deklerasyonu yanlis girilmis NS cift 5 ♣ demis onun uzerine 5 demisler..2 relrikas: 1tur iˆ§in F mi sorusu dogru soru olur sanˆ‰rˆ‰m murat abi digerleri senin cevabinla karˆ ˆ‰laˆ ˆ‰r sanˆ‰rˆ‰m :) alichengiz: nafiz salvo transfer oynuyor alichengiz: araya girilince veya dbl gelirse ♣ karolar alichengiz: 2♣ lar tez: 5 diyecek alichengiz: 4♠ EW alichengiz: ˆ§akayla birlikte 2 kˆ¶r arigun: ♠ partaj disarda 3nt 9 love alichengiz: ♣? MolvaM: 2nt..p MolvaM: evet aynen MolvaM: bilgi iˆ§in teˆ ekkˆ…r kenan hobakan: organizasyon komitesi hazˆ‰rlˆ‰klarˆ ‰nˆ‰ yapmˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰r umarˆ‰m.ˆ¶dˆ…l tˆ¶reni esnasˆ‰nda kolbastˆ‰ ˆ§alar.:) tez: haksˆ‰zlˆ‰k ettik o cakmak a..ozur borcumuz var..p ovncylmz: yaparim bence ovncylmz: :) ovncylmz: 7kor 2pik 2karo vugraphzpv: ne gˆ…zel geˆ§iyor paslar:) ergur: 4 h derse kˆ¶tˆ… tez: 3.den operasyon yapmayana Anadolu da kˆ ‰z vermiyorlar diyor molvam alichengiz: 5 olur ˆ imdi..p alichengiz: ♠ 4 olmuˆ alichengiz: gelmezler sanˆ‰rˆ‰m alichengiz: ˆ imdi pas dese.. alichengiz: derse.. alichengiz: 8 kart koz yoksa herhangi bir ˆ§iftte misfit diyoruz, (fit olamama durumu) arigun: bu arada 5♣ cok sansli oluyordu 4 de ♣ atak shift’ine batiyordu..♣4 tez: 4/1 koz varken kadinlarin konsantrasyonu cok bozuluyor larˆ‰nˆ‰ yazayˆ‰m vugraphzpv: final oynayan Ege ve Likom 16 57 alichengiz: Merhaba Nafiz bey vugraphzpv: 3.lˆ…k maˆ§ˆ‰ oynayan Mersin ve Hoˆ gˆ¶r 17 57 alichengiz : bu el potansiyel 13 sayˆ‰lˆ‰k swing alichengiz: fark ˆ§ok aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰r ˆ¶yle olursa alichengiz: 3. olan Mersin takˆ‰ da anonsu ve alkˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ hakediyor tabi ki :) Yasemin hayfavi, Deniz Tˆ…rkoˆ lu, Canan Adigˆ…zel, Sevil Akˆ ‰n, Berrak Erkan, Baˆ ak Kˆ…tˆ…k tez: 20 nolu el diger odadada 4♠ oynanˆ‰yor..p relrikas: :) alichengiz: arkadaˆ lar 12 saat yoldan geldim :) alichengiz: ♣ rengindeki durum 3nt iˆ§in ˆ anslˆ ‰ kˆ‰lˆ‰yor boardu begse: 3d tedbirsiz oynadˆ‰ turgay 9 en azˆ‰ ndan garanti vugraphzpv: Hoˆ gˆ¶rˆ… alichengiz: yine misfit eli MolvaM: diˆ er masa bitirdi hobakan: Kolbastˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰n turnuvay ˆ‰ bu 4 oyuncu ile oynadˆ‰klarˆ‰nˆ‰ hatˆ‰ rlatmakta fayda var. tez: sleme gidilebilecek bir eldi..p alichengiz: nakavt olmuˆ gibiyim yerde 4 kˆ¶r var gibi gˆ¶rdˆ…m, pardon alichengiz: 4♠ ns %♣ -1 ew alichengiz: ˆ nternette oynarken bir karˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ yok, kulˆ…p turnuvasˆ‰nda heyecan biraz artar, ˆ¶dˆ…llˆ… turnuvada dahada artar, ˆ ampiyona olunca kuvvetli rakiplerle diˆ e diˆ , heyecan ve stres diz ... alichengiz: boyu, buna bir de VG ta binlerce insanˆ‰n seyrettiˆ inin bilindiˆ ini ekleyin vbman: son iki elde swing potansiyeli vardˆ‰ gerˆ§ekten alichengiz: 11 de alichengiz: pardon alichengiz: AKXX olunca atˆ‰lˆ‰yor..1 alichengiz: seyirci ˆ§ok soru soruyor, yanˆ‰t vermeˆ e ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ‰yorum, odaya yazarak ama yetiˆ mek nmˆ…mkˆ…n alichengiz: iyi baraj alichengiz: 5♣ ¨ - 67 - kontrat © © © ¨ © © ¨ © © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) MolvaM: pek ilginˆ§ eller gelmiyor sanki hobakan: buraya kadar arigun: deklerayon biraz ilginc basladi alichengiz: 9 sayˆ‰ ile mi aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰yor artˆ‰k? MolvaM: pekˆ en iˆ§in 6 implik bir board MolvaM: grandˆ lem eli dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda..♣2 ergur: 3nt oynayacaklar ergur: 2nt deseydi ovncylmz: wow =) alichengiz: 5 4 kˆ¶re baraj oldu derken... alichengiz: 4 oynarsa 10’luya pas atmasˆ‰ ¨ © © laszˆ‰m ki, asˆ‰ ˆ§ektiˆ inde gˆ¶rˆ…yor, sorun yok alichengiz: Closed room Turkish, Open Room English... vbman: 3dia or 2 nt carleone22: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ eventresults.php?event=20715 gunduz yapˆ‰ lan maˆ§larˆ‰n skorlarˆ‰ henuz gˆ‰rˆ‰lmedˆ ‰ MolvaM: bir biskrem versek bizi affeder mi ˆ§ akmak?..♣A tez: 2♠ i beˆ endin mi molvam ovncylmz: puanlar kuzeyde ya belli degil mi MolvaM: hazˆ‰r fazla konuˆ maya baˆ lamˆ‰ˆ ken devamˆ‰nˆ‰ getirmekte yarar var tez: simdi gaza gelip 4 derler mi? tez: 3 ya dbl derse alichengiz: NS 3 /♠ EW 3 yapˆ‰yor alichengiz: Takˆ‰m maˆ§ˆ‰nda; zon yokken zon sˆ¶ylemek iˆ§in fazla hevesli olmamak lazˆ‰ m, % 60’ˆ‰n ˆ…zerinde olmalˆ‰ yapˆ‰lma ˆ ansˆ‰ hobakan: piki 2 kez yerden ˆ§evirmeye ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ acak alichengiz: zondayke ise tersi, % 40 ile sˆ¶ylenir vugraphzpv: ayrˆ‰ca ˆ uan oynandˆ ˆ‰ ˆ ekilde yazdˆ‰m alichengiz: Kenan? arigun: dogru mudur kenan ? begse: 3 elinde as pik pik bˆ…yˆ…k kup rua trefl pik bˆ…yˆ…k kup karo yere 9 lˆ¶veyi garanti ederdi vugraphzpv: deklerasyon doˆ ru arigun: dememesi lazim ortagi pass’dan geliyor ela’nˆ‰n..♣8 vbman: ˆ imdi diyebilir ergur: yinede 3nt ovncylmz: tezcan abi her durumda trefl mi atak ediyoruz alichengiz: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ eventresults.php?event=20715 ¨ © ¨ © ¨ alichengiz: aynˆ‰ sekans :) MolvaM: kenan, kuzey yarˆ‰mkˆ…resindeki en iyi BBO vugraf operatˆ¶rlerinden birisidir. kendisine teˆ ekkˆ…r ediyoruz :) MolvaM: pek deˆ il..♣7 ovncylmz: bu el ilginc vugraphzpv: AR 5 tane tref le sadece ˆ§akmazmˆ ‰ 4♣ ye vugraphzpv: nasˆ‰l puanlar orada oluyo hep ergur: 4 D = arigun: cikip kisaltmazsa 5 dahi olabilir cok sansli ... tez: hersey uygun 5 oynasalar yapacaklar ergur: ˆ imdi 5 olur arigun: hatta 6 relrikas: 10 lˆ¶ve alichengiz: birinci maˆ§lar girilmiˆ vugraphzpv: nevzat abi 1 re 1♠ 5li mi diye sordu vugraphzpv: Berk Basaran 1 maˆ§ kaldˆ‰ abi yenimi anlaˆ ˆ‰yorsunuz bunu dedi:) alichengiz: finalde anlaˆ ˆ‰yorlar ha :) daha sonra gelebilir anlaˆ malarˆ‰ iyi bir ˆ ey relrikas: ben mˆ…sadenizi istiyorum takˆ‰mˆ‰ m maˆ§tan ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰yordur ii akˆ amlar herkese.. ♣Q ovncylmz: dbldan sonra kesin trefl de tez: asa cakar..koz asini ceker..dursun efendi olan koz ruasini disarda birakir..♠ lere ♣ kaybini atar vulkan: Dekleran hep Doˆ u oluyor vugraphzpv: ben ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…r ederim Murat abi:) arigun: muhtemelen p-p-p-1♣ oldu turgay 17’yi 18’e upgrade etti arigun: pardon o zaman alichengiz: ♠ ler akˆ‰llˆ‰ daˆ ˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ 3 nt de sorun yok begse: ilk pike ufakla cakˆ‰lˆ‰rsa 10 lˆ¶ve MolvaM: o zaman da 1d aˆ§mazmˆ‰ydˆ‰ zaten? MolvaM: ercanˆ‰n sˆ…tten aˆ zˆ‰ yanmˆ‰ˆ .. ♣K MolvaM: baˆ arˆ‰lar size :) arigun: emin abi eli yanlis saydi muhtemelen, hani 3.den desen operasyon olabilir MolvaM : eli yanlˆ‰ˆ saydˆ‰m demek her zaman en iyi bahanedir arigun: biz genc senyorler dengeli elleri beter minor aciyoruz atak engellemek icin dikkat yalniz "better" degil :) MolvaM: iyi skor alˆ‰nˆ‰rsa da "ben 9 puanla oyunu 1 aˆ§tˆ‰m kaskatˆ‰ kaldˆ‰lar" deriz © ¨ © ¨ - 68 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) alichengiz: :) taˆ oldular ha MolvaM: ama ˆ imdi turgay kaskatˆ‰ kaldˆ‰ MolvaM: eˆ itim zayiatˆ‰ olarak arigun : bence bu zon durumu ve pozisyon operasyon icin uygun degil, bence emin abi fazla bir as gordu elinde... alichengiz: bu linkten son durum bakabilirsiniz.. ♣3 alichengiz: yapˆ‰lacak gibi 2 tez: demedi.artik 3♠ oynanip yapilacak..♣5 alichengiz: kˆ¶r ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰rsa ♠ asˆ‰ alˆ‰p ♣ ile altan geˆ§mek lazˆ‰m 4 pikte tutmak iˆ§in MolvaM: artˆ‰k iflah olmaz..♣6..♣9 arigun: emin abi diyodur simdi turgay ustume ustume gelme, yaptik bisi de bir ara NT de pass gecelim :) alichengiz: 21. el, 4♠ -3 olmuˆ tu bu masada, senyˆ¶rler takˆ‰mˆ‰ 2♠ +2 yapmˆ‰ˆ , 8 sayˆ ‰ onlara tez: yok 7 de tren var:).. 4 tez: teki atak etmek iyi bir aliskanlikl alichengiz: 1 ♠ 1 ve 1♣ veriyor 4 tam alichengiz: izmirBˆ B ve Kolbastˆ‰ favoriler..♠ 2 vugraphzpv: 1 1S diye claim edildi tez: nedir secenekler 2♣ pas gecmek..2 demek.. ♠3 MolvaM: soner ˆ imdi 2nt oynuyor ama aklˆ‰ grandˆ lemde muhtemelen MolvaM: geˆ§miˆ elleri unutun derler hep. ama unutabileni gˆ¶rmedim ben daha vbman: hammans rule alichengiz: de emniyet oyunu oynadˆ‰ Nafiz alichengiz: Salvo alichengiz: K tek olabilir iˆ§in vbman: iyi deklare vugraphzpv: hos geldiniz Coskun Kesgin alichengiz: Merhaba Hocam, hoˆ geldiniz :) vbman: selam doktor alichengiz: batar diyenle var ama ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰ lmazsa fazla olur kart alichengiz: koz ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰ldˆ‰ diyelim ki, ♣ A, ♣ ˆ§aka, kozlarˆ‰ ˆ§eker yerde kalacak ˆ ekilde batmaz vbman: artifisyel bir sekansˆ‰n ortasˆ‰ndayˆ‰ z anlaˆ ˆ‰lan hobakan: ˆ imdi defans 4 tur hobakan: karo oynayabilirse arigun : disarda 4-2 hani turgay 4 diye cuebid etse pass diyecek desek o da olmuyor tez: elden vale ♣ i vermesi gerekiyordu..♠Q alichengiz: sorgu vardˆ‰r ¨ © © © © ¨ © © © - 69 - © alichengiz: o ne bu ne :) alichengiz: 3 bir koz vererek yapmaˆ a ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰yor ¨ MolvaM: kenan masada konuˆ ma var mˆ‰? tez: simdiye kadar gayet iyi oynadi ˆ rem..♠4 MolvaM: emin abi ben elimi yanlˆ‰ˆ saydˆ‰m dedi mi mesela vugraphzpv: beni konuˆ tururken aˆ§mˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰m dedi:):) arigun: faik abi yanimda biraz once garsonda koyu bir kahve ve musekkin istedi :) MolvaM: hmmm bak o daha iyi fikir. vugraphzpv: fikret abi hep sorguladˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in:) arigun: aldi simdi u :).. J fahir: Haldun 3NT demeyince kˆ¶tˆ… kontrata geldiler alichengiz: yere trefl ˆ§aktˆ‰rmamasˆ‰ iˆ§in koz dˆ¶nˆ…yor Berk alichengiz: ˆ u durumda = ˆ§izgisinde, her ˆ ey m ˆ…mkˆ…n tez: ne yapardˆ‰n?.. A.. 2 ovncylmz: bir yeri goriyim falan dersen yandin=) ergur: -1 olur.. 8..♣J fahir: ilk eli yerden almak 1 lˆ¶veye mal olacak MolvaM: trefllerin partaj olduˆ unu biz biliyoruz ama deklaran bilmiyor. o hala 8 eli nasˆ‰l alˆ‰r ˆ‰m derdinde.. T vugraphzpv: maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰ ve butler sˆ‰ ralamasˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz vugraphzpv: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=195: tuerkye-bayan-doertlue-sonuclari&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 relrikas: evet baˆ kan :) alichengiz: karˆ ˆ‰ saldˆ‰rˆ‰ya geˆ§mek iyi fikir tabii ki :).. 3..♣T alichengiz: ˆ imdi ♣ alˆ‰p ♠ oynamazsa sorun yok MolvaM: 2♣ pas tercih ederdim ben.. K.. 7 tez: 4/1 kozdan korktugu icin hemen koz cekmedi tez: artik ceker alichengiz: ˆ imdi promasyon oldu alichengiz: aa 4 oynuyorlar diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ… yorum.. 4.. 5 ergur: 3h dbl 2 batardˆ‰..♠5..♠8 hobakan: gˆ…zel defans.. tebrikler MolvaM: 3 nolu bord beklendiˆ i gibi likom takˆ ‰mˆ‰ iˆ§in kˆ¶tˆ… bir skorla sonuˆ§landˆ‰ MolvaM: bakˆ‰nˆ‰z 2 karo derdim demiyorum. yani ele gˆ¶re konuˆ muyorum .. J tez: 4/1 kozu gormedi henuz..♠6 tez: ♣ partajˆ‰na oynamaktan baska caresi yok.. © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) ¨T ¨ MolvaM: sonunda iˆ trefl partajˆ‰na kaldˆ‰.. Q stolicnaya: toplam lˆ¶ve 18 .. 9 - 9 daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰or lˆ¶veler.. kural bu elde ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰yor alichengiz: ˆ imdi kˆ¶r ve -1 vbman: bu eli herkes bˆ¶yle mi oynar? MolvaM: ama ybildiˆ im kadarˆ‰ ile final maˆ§ˆ ‰ 4 devre alichengiz: ataˆ a baˆ lˆ‰.. 7 alichengiz: hˆ‰mm -2 ye gidiyor alichengiz: ♠ K yˆ‰ atsa iyidi.. 9 alichengiz: yatˆ‰rabilir ˆ imdi alichengiz: trefl ile yere ve ♠ oynayˆ‰nca -1 tez: ♣ oynayinca yerden cakmasi gerekiyordu.. 3.. K tez : ben 2 ♠ i sevdim..kucuk yu ♠ lerin arasina koymusum..dam ikili gordum derdim orta ˆa MolvaM: yani henˆ…z daha ˆ§ok erken begse : 2 ♣ belki gazilli gibi pas geˆ§ilebilir degil.. 5 alichengiz: ♠ K alichengiz: -2 tez: iyi savunma iyi oyun..2 iceri.. 6.. A MolvaM: yoksa 3 devre mi? alichengiz: ’lar biraz akˆ‰lˆ‰ olsa bu ataˆ a 6 olacak ergur: oldu oyun sorry.. 8..♠7.. 2 MolvaM: evet.. 6.. Q alichengiz: yatˆ‰rmayˆ‰ denemedi..♠9..♠T.. ♠J..♠K © © © ¨ © © Board NS: EW: o 2 c 2 © ¨ ¨ © © © E W -1 -1 this/total IMPs Djarum 156 BTN 154 100 100 10 9 ♠J64 7 Q85 7-6 7 AQ5 8 ♣A J 9 7 ♠Q N ♠K 9 7 5 2 AK J 10 7 6 4 W E J10 9 6 4 K2 S ♣10 6 3 2 ♣Q 8 ♠ A10 8 3 4 5 932 5-6 873 5 ♣K 5 4 4 600 W: Piskanto W © © ¨ 10 ¨ 1 2♣ p N: Anthony S Closed S: Kamto N E p p 1♠ p 2 p ¨ E: Franky K S p p p ©5,4,9,J #2 W::§3,7,Q,K ¨7,J,A,2 #4 N::¨5,K,3,4 ª2,A,Q,4 #6 S::§4,2,9,8 §A,ª5,§5,6 #8 N::§J,©6,2,§T ª6,K,, capercliff: 5♣ is a very good contract..♠A..¨9 jallerton: 5♣ and 4© are possible games here #1 N:: #3 S:: #5 E:: #7 N:: #9 N:: EW viren169: only a gentle hypothetical one! viren169: The pair of them! jcomyn: m v m ralfwil: I will get this verified when I visit Ireland for golf diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING from LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 60, SCOTLAND 52, IRELAND 47, ENGLAND 45, CBAI 40, WALES 25 ***** thegarve: its the way people are diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNNG **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 91, N-IRELAND 88, ENGLAND 81, IRELAND 72, CBAI 71, WALES 43 **** lestergold: slam gtime for CBAI - 70 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) viren169: Now a strong NT with a 5-card maj..p petepunt: roi one off in that tough 3n brd 22 jcomyn: you will I assure you sharkirl: have my doubts about lead when CA not lead against 6H earlier with A &K thegarve: the game has adavanced a lot particularly in the last decade, but some players never change mariner1: 6N EW? mariner1: 6♠ more of a challenge petepunt: we all agree with 2 :)..p..1 roswolf: hmm did i miss another horror show? santyclz: A good lesson hand. Since you don’t know what to pitch (though a looks likely), ruff the ♠ lead and take a pitch later. idc: 2♠ is forcing for one round..p idc: now then - how many of you play penalty dbls over 15-17? thegarve: slow doubles = penalties jallerton: I do steshome: I’m old fashioned idc : I haven’t for ages - X shows majors or minors for me, just wondered what others felt? jallerton: keeps the opponents honest capercliff: I dont play penalty X’s over weak nt thegarve: v 3rd seat NV jallerton: the strong NT is a devalued currency these days pkl: Strong 1NT? That should end the action. pkl: aUction ralfwil: perhaps you can be my guide? jcomyn: and remember when you can see the mountains it is going to rain and if you cant it is already raining capercliff: I like 2 , but wouldnt be everybodys choice..1♠ jallerton: like sterling jcomyn: of course - I have played pretty well every course in Ireland diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING from LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 54, IRELAND 50, CBAI 46, SCOTLAND 45, ENGLAND 42, WALES 33 ***** capercliff: wonder if they have 2 ways of showing a weak 2..p jcomyn: yes idc: looks good to me too, but that may not be much of a recommendation..2♣ petepunt: may well lead j♠ ralfwil: a part contract in on NS and 3♣ on EW mariner1: tough hand for EW here........ W has no easy entries if E plays it © © © © - 71 - ¨ mariner1: 3♣ is a good spot capercliff: hard for E to stop here mariner1: in fact 6N has a problem rednaxela: 6 Clubs and Diamonds make too. othered1: This will be a swing..p jcomyn: dont matter much petepunt: save 2imps with the lead potentially mariner1: well if EW played Lebensohl over reverses this would be easier lestergold: 6d looks like the best contract ironically rednaxela: Or maybe not. pkl: Switch to spade now?..2 ralfwil: I think you are a better golfer than I and also younger - 70 yeard and hcp 9 santyclz: They got to the wrong game and made on the lead after warning the opps not to lead it. sharkirl: would thinh 4s reasonable response capercliff: i was just going to say that capercliff: indeed mariner1: well 6♣ has issues lestergold: in all othetr contracts there are entry problems to easts hand as dimjs break 4/3 you cannot overtake lestergold: 42/2 mariner1: maybe best to avoid slam here :) ralfwil: years....p lestergold: but 6d is enormous Rob surely steshome: What’s wrong with 2 ? ..p capercliff: nothing jallerton: No, this is their only way to open a weak 2 capercliff: tx Jeffery jallerton: some prefer a decent suit, vulnerable idc: there isn’t a lot between the three possible games, but 4♠ is the worst and on this layout, it may fail capercliff: if you turn the into ♠ it would be an easy pass no? steshome: How quaint ... jallerton: I don’t know the meaning of 3♠ (it was alerted) but if natural it sounds more like 3-card support jcomyn: WRONG on both counts Ralf older and higher capercliff: but if they dont play reverses GF, then a bid back to partners original suit is non-forcing capercliff: but E has a very good hand here capercliff: even if partner bid thegarve: Zia used to sit down and ask oppo’s 1NT defence in case they did not have a penalty double..p jcomyn: not now ¨ © © © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) roswolf: sorry guys i have to leave now - have fun:) santyclz: Thanks Geoffery, bye. mariner1: yes but is that the most likely slam? no :) © toobad: 2 off.. 5 idc: here I could bid 2 ¨ to show ¨ and a major no big deal mind you..©4 mariner1: S has a tough lead..©9..©J mariner1: a © can help E ralfwil: My guess -4!..♣3 mariner1: ♠ ok capercliff: I cant see this making capercliff: A ruff , a ruff mariner1: in@@o E opened this 1 ¨ ¨ © open © © ¨ auction still capercliff: run Q maybe rednaxela: Now they are on the road to Spades. idc: 3♠ is specifically xx support..♣7 jallerton: Yes, when I played against Zia, it’s the only question he asked about our system! viren169: ummmmmmm diumraid: **** LIVE LADY MILNE SCORES **** IN RUNNING **** N-IRELAND 34, IRELAND 33, SCOTLAND 31, CBAI 31, ENGLAND 29, WALES 22 toobad: will take her 7 tricks..♣Q thegarve: X as 4M 5+ minor is getting fairly common..♣K mariner1: in Open Room capercliff: this lead is somewhat helpful.. 7 mariner1: 6♠ very tough,,,,,, is there a play even? lestergold: 33 combined high card points you cant stay out of slam- there happen to be problems in 3 out if the 4 available denominations mariner1: W needs 8♠ I think lestergold: well cant blame them for bidding it ion their sole 8 card suit fit especially with the weakness in hearts mariner1: yes best hope here for CBAI is that Scotland also bids it and they are likely to lestergold: i predict they go off losing two spade tricks jcomyn: that is a great handicap for 70.. J henryb: claim.. A sharkirl: my GoD! mariner1: Mike is out a ♠ HUGE limb there :) jallerton: OK, perhaps W should bid 4♣ or 4 over that then.. 2 toobad: john is 90 and hcp 28.. 5 diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ 78, SCOTLAND 66, IRELAND 64, ENGLAND 59, CBAI 54, WALES 35 ****.. K.. 3.. 4.. ♠2 idc: with Hxx they splinter or show a 3-6-2-2 with 4 ..♠A pkl: Nine tricks - not bad santyclz: Let’s see if she can get out for no ♣ losers...♠Q capercliff: 1 wouldnt be my choice rednaxela: Very hard to see how the defence could miss their two trump tricks. steshome : It is and I remember David Gold exposing the weakness of the method in a Camrose by psyching a strong NT in third..♠4 thegarve: you need to ask him if he is planning to psyche 1NT and whether there is any partnership agreement ..♣4 mariner1: virtually no chance jallerton: assuming they are natural, not cues..♣2 viren169: with a helping hand from your friends! thegarve: of course - I have never done such a thing myself.......♣9..♣8 jallerton: ducking would have been cute lestergold: well i like to make one prediction in ten that canbnot fail capercliff: 5♣ is not easy to find to be perfectly honest..♣A..♠5..♣5 lestergold: to make up for the nine that do capercliff: easy for us seeing all 4 hands..♣6 mariner1: go return by N..♣J mariner1: good idc: agree Jeffrey, shouldn’t get locked into on that start to a sequence.. 6 jcomyn: witty isnt he ralf toobad: and if u give him all those strokes, he will rob you blind lol Irish bandit style mariner1: E is in 3N here in Open Room thegarve: Reggie Perrin is back Ian - any quotes? .. 2..♣T..♠6 idc: locked into ♠ i meant..♠K santyclz: Should ruff a ♣ before playing s. Maybe the k will come down. ¨ © - 72 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) Board 11 NS: EW: o 4♠x E c 4♠x E this/total IMPs BTN 154 Djarum 156 590 590 4 4 11 7 ♠9 8 6 3 Q10 3 8 10 5 4 9 ♣10 8 5 4 2 ♠Q J 4 N ♠ K10 7 5 3 2 K95 J8 W E K6 Q J984 S ♣Q J 9 7 3 ♣ ♠A 5 10 A7642 4 A732 7 ♣AK 6 3 -300 W: A HAITANI W p p 4♠ p N: J BOJOH Open E: OCTAVIAN S: L GONTHA N E S 1 1N p 3 3 3♠ p p p X p p © ¨ © §A,3,2,ª3 ©A,5,3,8 ªJ,8,5,©2 ¨4,2,K,5 #1 S:: #3 S:: #5 W:: #7 E:: ª2,A,4,6 ©7,K,T,J ªQ,9,K,©4 ¨6,T,Q,A #2 E:: #4 S:: #6 W:: #8 W:: arigun: 5 boardlari daha var begse: defans niyekˆ¶re ˆ§aktˆ‰ 10 lu kˆ¶rˆ… ˆ¶ rttˆ… sonra defans ufak kˆ¶rmˆ… oynadˆ‰ belki ovncylmz: -1 olmadi mi? vugraphzpv: skor doˆ ru sadece kartlarda bir yaln ˆ‰ˆ lˆ‰k oldu ˆ¶zˆ…r tez: 3 yerine 1 acmak bence daha iyiydi tez: defans pasif oynasa batirabilirdi 3♠ i alichengiz : 3 ♠ iyidi NS ˆ§ift iˆ§in kˆ¶rde promosyon vardˆ‰ alichengiz: 4nt ye gelebilirler, davet sekansˆ‰ ile alichengiz: pas pas 2nt alichengiz: 2♠ Ns alichengiz: ew? :) alichengiz: kozlarˆ‰ yok, bakalˆ‰m hangi rengi koz yapacaklar ¨ - 73 - ¨ ergur: rakˆ‰p araya gireceginden bence 3sp kadar gelirler ve de batar alichengiz: en yˆ…ksek yˆ…zde bu alichengiz: part skor yine alichengiz: ufak eller seti? alichengiz: ˆ§ok yˆ…kseklere ˆ§ˆ‰kmˆ‰ˆ lar 5 hiˆ§ aklˆ‰ma gelmedi MolvaM : turgay ˆ imdi mˆ‰rˆ‰n kˆ‰rˆ‰n etmeye kalkarsa, "sen de kabak 3 ya battˆ‰n ama" diyerek susturulabilir alichengiz: kozlarˆ‰ ˆ§ekse ve oyun sonu yapsa yapˆ‰lˆ‰yordu, 2 alichengiz: -1 = deken en iyi oyundan ve defanstan bahsedioruz tez: hicbir 7 olmuyor..1 tez: uzun renkler var..hicbiri calismiyor MolvaM: 5♣ iyi kontrat. bakalˆ‰m ulaˆ abilecekler mi alichengiz: 4-4 koz genellikle 5-3 koza gˆ¶re daha iyi ve fakat salvo yˆ…kseltince ♠ bulunamaz oldu MolvaM: 6 kˆ¶re pik as ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰r mˆ‰?..p MolvaM: 26 puanlˆ‰k 3nt batˆ‰rmak her zaman avantajlˆ‰dˆ‰r alichengiz: 1nt diyebilir alichengiz: 3♣ 3♠ 4nt alichengiz: Quantativ alichengiz: ns 25 sayˆ‰lˆ‰k ele sahip yine bir zon yok alichengiz: ew 4 ya kadar yapabiliyor hobakan: oyuncunun oynadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ oyun yanlˆ ‰ˆ deˆ il tercihtir.. eˆ er 3-3 kˆ¶r bulsa idi. ve dam atak edende olsa idi ergur: slmm gecte olsa:) alichengiz: NS 3♣ alichengiz: ew Koz beˆ ensin ˆ¶nce MolvaM: bildiˆ im turgay 3nt der ˆ imdi alichengiz: aktif bir el ama az board kaldˆ‰ MolvaM: 4pike kadar sorun yok..1N MolvaM: ˆ¶tesi ilginˆ§ arigun: bence 3 acislari minorler gibi birsey veya elini yanlis gormustur, aksi takdirde 5 tane ile operasyon icin acmazdi... tez: bu zon durumunda 3♣ demeyi tercih edebilirdi..eger inverted minor oynuyorlarsa alichengiz: bu bordu diˆ er masa 5♣ oynuyor yapacak gibi begse: gˆ…zel el 3nt az puanla MolvaM: zon kaˆ§masˆ‰n diye alichengiz: 2♣ vbman: 3 kˆ¶r ?..p alichengiz: tˆ…rkˆ§e okunuˆ uyla kantitatif, pas ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) geˆ§ilebilir, davet ergur: 3nt oynayˆ‰p spatagˆ‰na batacaklarˆ‰n ˆ‰ dˆ…sˆ…nˆ…yorum bu elde alichengiz: aynen alichengiz: 4-3 ’e oynamak iyi fikir EW iˆ§in alichengiz: ♠ K tek olunca 1 ♠ ve 1 veriyor alichengiz: Merhaba, hoˆ geldiniz :) arigun: ♠ cikisina 3nt yi yapar heralde alichengiz: araya nasˆ‰l girdin? ergur: . begse: iki tur kˆ¶rden sonra as karo karo oynasa oluyor alichengiz: son maˆ§, bu maˆ§tan ˆ¶nceki durum ˆ ˆ¶yleydi: 1-Kolbastˆ‰ 273; 2-Pekˆ en 255; 3Matrix 253; 4-Senyˆ¶rler 251; 5-Noname 251; 6Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran 246; 7-Midyat 240; 8-Zabunoˆ lu 218 alichengiz: Pekˆ eninmaˆ§ˆ‰ 24-6 kazanmasˆ‰ gerekiyordu alichengiz: aksi halde Kolbastˆ‰ ˆ ampiyon eppursigio: ok..3 MolvaM: bakalˆ‰m soner-ercan nasˆ‰l defans edecek tez: guney alichengiz: The law of total tricks, toplam lˆ¶ve kanunu, merhaba Doˆ a MolvaM: artˆ‰k herhalde 6 kˆ¶re ulaˆ salar bile pik as ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰r..p ogoksel : ters zon durumu nelere kadir:)1 demeyince bakalˆ‰m ne olacak? alichengiz: toplam lˆ¶ve kanunu ˆ§ok ˆ¶nemli evet alichengiz: ♠ demeyince Hakan hobakan: Pekˆ en’in oyunu kazanacaktˆ‰. alichengiz: yeni renk aˆ§ar var, enge dˆ¶nmek kˆ ¶tˆ… el MolvaM: evet. maˆ§ bitmiˆ tir tez: 2 nt oynayip yapacaklar..3 tez: savunma 4♣ 1 alacak ergur: 6♠ hobakan: hg:) MolvaM: makul deklarasyon..3♠ vbman: 5431 ile jump fit aslˆ‰nda 4441 den daha alternatif olabilir stolicnaya: selamlar relrikas: hoˆ geldin alichengiz: yarˆ‰ˆ ma sekanslarˆ‰nda ˆ…ste konuˆ up konuˆ mamayˆ‰ belirleyen faktˆ¶, koz sayˆ‰sˆ‰ ve kˆ‰salˆ‰klar doble fitler, toplam lˆ¶veyi etkiliyor, rakip kozdaki QJX ler vs alichengiz: double fit alichengiz: e gelecek sona :) © © ¨ ¨ ¨ © alichengiz: uyarˆ‰lar iˆ§in teˆ ekkˆ…rler emre kaya: ooo alichengiz: NS 2-3 ergur: hb:) begse: eminin eli 3 der alichengiz: bu masada, 9. el 6 -2 oluˆ tu, diˆ er © ¨ masada 3nt oynanˆ‰yormuˆ , yapˆ‰lˆ‰rsa ki, yapˆ‰lˆ‰yor, 13 kolbastˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰na tez: 6nt ve 6 oluyor ancak..p tez: 7den once durmak zor ergur: 6 MolvaM: e tabii. emin abide standard aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ puanˆ‰ndan 2 puan fazla var :) begse: ˆ¶nce pik tez: sayiyla atak etmemek iyi degil bence..4♠ tez: cok sorun yaratiyor tez: enaz benim icin oyle..cok zorlaniyorum fahir: 7NT olmuyor mu? ergur: 12 var alichengiz: hˆ‰zlˆ‰ yazarken bazˆ‰ harfler dˆ …ˆ ebliyor MolvaM: nur araya girmeyerek doˆ ru 1 iˆ yaptˆ ‰..p emre kaya: kor atagi gelecek ergur: ˆ imdi olmayacak alichengiz: gˆ¶nderelim diye anlaˆ mˆ‰ˆ lar sanˆ ‰rˆ‰m alichengiz: arkadaˆ lar tˆ…m sorularˆ‰nˆ‰za yanˆ‰tlar bu sayfada http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/ alichengiz: aˆ§ˆ‰p bakˆ‰n karˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰rˆ‰n biraz alichengiz: tek baˆ ˆ‰na yetiˆ emiyorum alichengiz: 1 ne ola ki? arigun: salvo izleyiciler soruyor, 3♣ nedir, davet eli ?..p arigun: sistemlerini sen biliyorsun tez: cok zor karar vermek tez: 1 ile araya girmeyen var mˆ‰?dogunun eliyle tez: 10 ve 9 lular cazip arigun: sessizligin anlami "yok" galiba tez: yerden kart vermeden oyun planˆ‰ yapsa daha iyi olurdu ogoksel: pas demeye tercih ederim alichengiz: hem ellere bakˆ‰p hem de yazmak ˆ §ok kolay deˆ il alichengiz: 3 5 li major yok alichengiz: pupet stayman oynuyorlar demekki alichengiz: 3♠ 4 lˆ… alichengiz: karo dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda ne ˆ§ˆ‰ksa yapˆ ‰yorum! tez: iyi karar verdi emine..odul var.. © © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ - 74 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) tez: surpriz bisey olmadˆ‰ki ˆ u anda alichengiz: evet iyi yerde durdular hobakan: deˆ erli seyircilerimiz unutmayalˆ‰m. bilgisayarˆ‰n baˆ ˆ‰nda olan ve 4 eli gˆ¶rebilen bizleriz. sas2nt: 3♣ ’s renginde forcing game veta 4♠ ile neg dbl demek..p sas2nt: 3h ben ben h kesiyorum sen cl kesiyorsan 3nt de demekti sas2nt: kaldˆ‰ ki 3 demesi daha iyi olurdu MolvaM: doˆ ru karar vugraphzpv: 13 var vbman: karoyu bullursa 6 stolicnaya: kontur pik atagi isteyen konvansiyonmu ˆ .. Zorlu majˆ¶rleri gˆ¶sterdikten sonra alichengiz: 20-21 oynuyorlarsa 3nt uygun 22 olabilitorsa 4nt denebilir emre kaya: 9 love oldu simdi alichengiz: 2 ♠ ve koz asˆ‰na verior alichengiz: veriyor fahir: yerde 3. karo olmayˆ‰nca 7 nt olmuyor ama 7 pik olabilirdi..p iˆ§in sˆ¶ylemiˆ tim vugraphzpv: vbman: evet MolvaM: rdbl ile cengiz kˆ¶rde 1. tur stoper yani as veya ˆ ikan vadetti alichengiz: klavyeler ˆ§in iˆ i olunca :) vugraphzpv: 6. sˆ‰raki Zabunoglu takˆ‰mˆ‰ yla aynˆ‰ puanˆ‰ vardˆ‰ ama Zabunoglu gˆ… n boyunca daha fazla ˆ‰mp topladˆ‰klarˆ‰ iˆ§ in Zabunoglu kaldˆ‰ alichengiz: -1 MolvaM: merih tokcan 3nt demek yerine baˆ ka birˆ eyler yapsa mˆ‰ydˆ‰?..p alichengiz: 4 yapˆ‰labiliyordu, 4♠ iyi baraj oldu NS iˆ§in alichengiz: kendi elimizdeki kozlarˆ‰n sayˆ‰sˆ ‰nˆ‰ aˆ aˆ ˆ‰ yukarˆ‰ biliriz, rakibikini de tahmin etmeye ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰rˆ‰z, onlarda 9 koz ve kˆ¶r varken bizdede 10 koz ve pik varsa, 19 lˆ¶ ve vardˆ‰r yaklaˆ ˆ‰k .....♣A alichengiz: olarak alichengiz: onlar 4 kˆ¶r yaparken biz bir batarˆ‰ z veya tersi emre kaya: ♣ empasina alichengiz : salvo en uzak rengi okudu, kˆ¶r diyeceˆ ini tahmin ediyordum ergur: nevzat abi bbo dan farkklˆ‰ oynuyor son derece kontrollˆ…:) tez: bilmeyenler icin tekrar edeyim..E.Sen esim yani karim olur..♣3 MolvaM: diˆ er masada karo atak edilmiˆ l ¨ © © - 75 - MolvaM: nuri eline bakarak bunun as olduˆ unu anlˆ‰yor ve rahatˆ§a 3nt diyebiliyor MolvaM: diˆ er masa 3ntye daha kestirmeden ulaˆ mˆ‰ˆ alichengiz: batˆ‰lˆ‰larˆ‰n deyimiyle, kˆ¶pek gesdirme bordu hobakan: onlar ise masadalar ve elleri gˆ¶remiyorlar MolvaM: sn nafiz zorlu’ya hoˆ geldiniz diyelim hep beraber :) tez: yorumlar tarafsiz:)..♣2 arigun: resmi nikah mi, imam nikahi mi ? MolvaM: minˆ¶r transferi veya baˆ ka biˆ eyler? MolvaM: bu arada cengiz ve nuri nin tˆ…rkiyedeki en eski ortaklˆ‰klardan birisi olduˆ unu belirteyim alichengiz: swing olmaz normal koˆ ullarda alichengiz: as ˆ§ekmeyince batacak ˆ imdi tez: 2 iceri 300..herkes dogru karar verdi..♠3 tez: hala yapar ama bence dogru degil..♠ ile yere gecip lar uzerine oynanmasˆ‰ gerekiyordu..♠ 2 tez: artˆ‰k ♠ oynayˆ‰p 10 koymasˆ‰ gerekiyor tez: yapmasˆ‰ icin begse: gnd lar MolvaM: kendisi zaman zaman bize katˆ‰lacak g ˆ…n boyunca alichengiz: yaz aylarˆ‰nda Kulˆ…pler arasˆ‰ takˆ‰m maˆ§larˆ‰da yine vˆ…ograf olabilir alichengiz: Tˆ…rkiye ikili’de olacaˆ ˆ‰na dair bir emare yok begse: kazananlarˆ‰ tebrik ediyoruz herkese iyi akˆ amlar tez: simdi yerdeki vale sag kalacak..♠A MolvaM: 3nt yapmasˆ‰ zor gene de MolvaM: pikten ˆ§ift empas atmanˆ‰n mantˆ‰ ksˆ‰z olacaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ varsayˆ‰yoruz tabii MolvaM: acaba bir squeeze olabilir mi MolvaM: soner herhalde kˆ¶r ile ˆ§ˆ‰kacak emre kaya: simdi batti :) MolvaM: 4 eli gˆ¶rˆ…rken tabi ki hepimiz diyoruz ki "2 boˆ karo ile 3nt demek bˆ…yˆ…k risk"..♠4 alichengiz: ve diz boyu stres ve 4 gˆ…nlˆ…k yorgunluk alichengiz: iyi akˆ amlar alichengiz: bu nedenle genellikle 4 kˆ¶re 4 pik denilir , 18 kozun ˆ…zerinde..♠6 hobakan: 4 kiˆ i oynayan ya da hiˆ§ ˆ§ˆ‰kmadan oynayan ayaklar oldukˆ§a fazla arigun: fikret 1 tur atlasa dahi 8 de kaliyordu, haldun alip bir daha oynayacak MolvaM: ˆ u an maˆ§ yakˆ‰n gˆ¶rˆ…nˆ…yor ama kolbastˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰na muhtemel 2 iyi board geliyor ¨ © ¨ Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) alichengiz: part skor yarˆ‰ˆ larˆ‰nda ise, 8 koza 8 koz en ˆ§ok gˆ¶zlenen durum, 2 kˆ¶r yaparlarken 2 pik yaparˆ‰z ˆ¶rneˆ in.. A alichengiz: ♠ ten sonra uzak deˆ il tabi ki :) alichengiz: evet Nafiz ˆ§ok disiplinli vulkan: 1H Rua maˆ duru gibi bir hikayesi var mˆ ‰ paˆ am? MolvaM: iyi baraj evet.. 5 MolvaM: cengiz-nuri 1990 lˆ‰ yˆ‰llarda ˆ§ok baˆ arˆ‰lˆ‰ bir ˆ§ift idiler fakat daha sonra araya askerlik vs iˆ ler girince ayrˆ‰ldˆ‰lar MolvaM: zaman zaman birlikte oynamaya devam ediyorlar fahir: yorumcularˆ‰mˆ‰zˆ‰n ˆ§oˆ u turnuvada oynadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in biraz sessiz bir yayˆ‰n oldu, izleyicilerden ˆ¶zˆ…r diliyoruz.. 3 emre kaya: karolari alip as kˆ¶re gelse olmustu MolvaM: oooooo alichengiz: -1 gibiydi ama -2 ˆ§izgisine girdi alichengiz: o stres ˆ§ok gˆ…zeldir ama, canˆ‰nˆ ‰ tehlikeye atmadan, kaya duvarˆ‰nˆ‰ tˆ‰ rmanmanˆ‰n verdiˆ i hazzˆ‰ yaˆ arsˆ‰nˆ‰z masada.. 8 alichengiz: hmmm MolvaM: haldun gˆ…neyde pik AQ olmasˆ‰ ndan korktu alichengiz: Renk isteyen konturlar bir umman, bir ˆ§ok ihaleni batmasˆ‰nˆ‰ veya ˆ§ˆ‰kmasˆ ‰nˆ‰ belirler.. 7 alichengiz: -2 oluyor tez: dipsiz kiler boˆ ambar nerdi aneannem .. K alichengiz: Swing= sayˆ‰ alˆ‰ˆ veriˆ i ovncylmz: tempo cok hizli degil mi bu oyunlar icin:) alichengiz: ˆ imdi 2 batmaya gidiyor vbman: belki koz ataˆ ˆ‰.. T ovncylmz: kuzeyin eliyle 2sp der miydiniz?.. J alichengiz : sˆ…rekli ortaklˆ‰k bu nedenle gerekiyor alichengiz : 1 sayˆ‰lˆ‰k swingleri ˆ§ok ˆ¶ nemsemiyoruz :) hobakan: karo valeyi tahmin etmeye ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ acak alichengiz : yerdeyken ˆ§evirip 9 koyarsa bordu bilmiˆ olacak e ♣ atmaktan bahsediyorum..♠J..♠8 tez: tez : ♠ leri cektikten sonra 10 luya dogru oynamasˆ‰ gerekiyor vbman: aslˆ‰nda iki empasˆ‰da aynˆ‰ yere atmak ˆ ansˆ‰ biraz daha artˆ‰rabilir..♠5 alichengiz: 110 karˆ ˆ‰ -100 alichengiz: koz hakimiyetini de kaybeti © © © © © © © © © ¨ © alichengiz: kozu ˆ§ekip kˆ¶rleri ˆ§ekecek hobakan: analiz edemedim ancak pik rua tek de karodan kˆ‰saltˆ‰lacaˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in yetmiyor olabilir hobakan: ona bi bakmak lazˆ‰m alichengiz: 5♣ her defansa oluyor hobakan: yoksa Fikret Abi hesaplar ergur: yere ruaya gitse sorun yok alichengiz: +1 ovncylmz: 2h pas pasa.. 2..♠Q oynarsa batar tez: tez: oynayˆ‰p bilirse olur ergur: kolay deˆ il h iˆ§in karar vermek tez: baglantˆ‰ sorunu var her iki masada da vugraphzpv: maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰ ve butler sˆ‰ ralamasˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz vugraphzpv: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=195: tuerkye-bayan-doertlue-sonuclari&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 olamaz tez: guneyde rua dam alichengiz: diˆ er masada yapˆ‰ldˆ‰ MolvaM: artˆ‰k batmaya doˆ ru gidiyor..♠9 alichengiz: 11 pekˆ ene hobakan: Anter zayˆ‰f aˆ§ˆ‰nca rakibin majˆ¶r kozu kaybolmuˆ ..♠K hobakan: genelde iˆ e yarar ama:) alichengiz: diˆ er masa bitirdi ergur: kolbastˆ‰ ˆ ampiyonlugunu kutluyorum:) alichengiz: sigara bitti :).. 4 MolvaM: bu durumda karo oynayˆ‰nca oyun olacak. belki kˆ¶rden ortakta maden bulurum dedi ama olmadˆ‰ ergur: herkese ia :) MolvaM: mesela fikrette !KJ10 umdu.. 4 vugraphzpv: mola verildi MolvaM: KJ10 alichengiz: 7 veya 11 sayˆ‰lˆ‰k potansiyel swing MolvaM: neden ˆ¶yle dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ndˆ…? MolvaM: belki turgayda pik KQ olsaydˆ‰ ˆ¶nce pik ile baˆ lardˆ‰ dedi hobakan: son durumu felan yayˆ‰nlasak diyorum hobakan: pardonnn.. ˆ¶zeldi.. herkese merhabalar diyelim.:):) alichengiz : Kenan, sabah maˆ§larˆ‰nˆ‰n skorlarˆ‰ var mˆ‰? MolvaM: evet fikretin defoslarˆ‰ ile kˆ¶r istemedi ˆ i mesajˆ‰nˆ‰ iletmiˆ olmasˆ‰ beklenirdi MolvaM: acaba iletemedi mi? yoksa anlaˆ amadˆ ‰lar mˆ‰? MolvaM: fikret ♠2 ♠4 defos etti ¨ ¨ © © © © © ¨ - 76 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) arigun: selam ozgur MolvaM: haldun bunu ˆ§ˆ¶zemedi sanˆ‰rˆ‰m vugraphzpv: ilk maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰nˆ‰ vereyim vugraphzpv: Kolbastˆ‰ Peksen 16-14 alichengiz: Merhaba ˆ zgˆ…r :) vugraphzpv: Senyˆ¶r Milli Midyat Bel. 17-13 vugraphzpv: Matrix Zabunoˆ lu 25-4 vugraphzpv: Noname1 Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran 22-8 fahir: asla ezmesi gerekirdi.. 2 MolvaM: gˆ…ven erkaya tˆ…rkiye 2li de vugraf ¨ yapˆ‰lacak mˆ‰ bilmiyoruz. eˆ er yapˆ‰lˆ‰rsa TBF web sayfasˆ‰nda da duyurulur zaten alichengiz: veya -100 -50 4 sayˆ‰lˆ‰k swing olabilir.. K alichengiz: evet 9. elden o beklenen swing geldi alichengiz: 37 sayˆ‰ fark yaklaˆ ˆ‰k olarak, 25 5 vbman: owww.. 5 alichengiz: ♣ iyi daˆ ˆ‰ldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in herhangi bir ataˆ a yapˆ‰lˆ‰yor alichengiz: ve vbman: bir tref ˆ§akamˆ‰yor galiba? alichengiz: hayat .. 6 alichengiz: takˆ‰m maˆ§larˆ‰nda ki VP skorlamay ˆ‰ bilmeyenler iˆ§in alichengiz: Kolbastˆ‰ oyununun kˆ¶kenine dair, ˆ§ok sert tartˆ‰ˆ malar yapˆ‰lˆ‰yor, Gˆ…rcˆ… kˆ¶kenli olduˆ unu sˆ¶yleyenler Trabzon kˆ¶kenli diyenlere karˆ ˆ‰ azˆ‰nlˆ‰ktalar, doˆ al ve natˆ …rel olarak.. T tez: 1♣ acˆ‰sˆ‰na pas gecmisti.. Q ergur: -1.. A alichengiz: 3♠ denirse diˆ er masada alichengiz: mˆ…thiˆ oynadˆ‰, wd ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ Board 11 NS: EW: o 4♠x E c 4♠x E this/total IMPs Djarum 156 BTN 154 590 590 4 4 11 7 ♠9 8 6 3 Q10 3 8 10 5 4 9 ♣10 8 5 4 2 ♠Q J 4 N ♠ K10 7 5 3 2 K95 J8 W E K6 Q J984 S ♣Q J 9 7 3 ♣ ♠A 5 10 A7642 4 A732 7 ♣AK 6 3 -300 W N: Anthony S Closed S: Kamto N E p 4♠ p 1 p p W: Piskanto § ¨ © ¨ ª #1 S:: A,3,2, 2 #3 W:: 6,T,Q,A #5 S:: 7,K,T,J 3♠ p p E: Franky K S 1♣ X X ¨ © ª #2 E:: 4,2,K,5 #4 S:: A,5,3,8 #6 W:: Q,6,5,A jallerton: That’s why many need a better suit to © open 2 . Pass- 1♠-1NT-2♣/3♣ gets to ♣ diumraid: ****** In Running Scores ******* LIVE from LIMERICK ********- N-Ireland 17, England 16, CBAI 15, IRELAND 15, SCOTLAND 14, WALES 13 idc: I didn’t get where I am today by responding to trolls like yours Martin steshome: Fee gaining 10 for England by making 4♠ on the previous board viren169: Now a slam hand! toobad: i am only good on the 19th ralfwil: in that case let´·s join there... sharkirl: yes expert play mariner1: another part score special here vugraphzms: Table slow, players asking TD for a monitor capercliff: 3 over 3♣ perhaps lestergold : i think that was bad luck a lot of ¨ - 77 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) players would reach six sopades on those cards mariner1: ROI now 34 1st imps vs NI so Scotland looking good so far lestergold: it was anexcellent contract mariner1: true you normally want to be in that slam thegarve: 2nt ..1♣..p lestergold: better than all the others probably on analysis mariner1: 3N NS here viren169: Even a grand slam at that!..1 jcomyn: in D but that wont happen..3♠ viren169: Good start! jcomyn: is 2H a transfer petepunt: traaditional acol 2 , ahh thos were the days! jcomyn: indeed jcomyn: 1H with that??? petepunt: some would upgrade west to a 2♣ but that is wrong jcomyn: I open 4 h in my sleep ralfwil: lokks like 4 in laydown on EW, but now difficult to find ralfwil: looks... Mu spelling:.. toobad: 4 h, but hard to reach thegarve: 1D - nice and safe diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 75, SCOTLAND 69, ENGLAND 62, IRELAND 61, CBAI 58, WALES 31 **** mariner1: or 4♠ mariner1: 3N in S a better spot lestergold: well bound to be 4s now jcomyn: got a bit dull here need a few goulashes.. ¨ © © ¨ © petepunt: 4 ! noahs arc bid..4♠ jcomyn: well thats me jcomyn: none of us is perfect petepunt: :) west can x2h then bid 3 © to show this hand maybe! jcomyn: Leb I assume idc : interesting to see how they get to 3NT here..p pkl: As cards lay, there are 13 tricks. I would be happy to end in 6 viren169: Only in diamonds! toobad: yes santyclz: Playing for CBAI, 1 , for Wales, 2nt. capercliff: how or if?..p steshome: Equally of course 2 -2♠-3♣ would get there of course ... idc: I’ve watched too many English teams bid & ¨ ¨ © make close games over the years to think they will end up anywhere else :) idc: Awful defence - T lead, declarer didn’t duck, so they got their ruff jcomyn: hate that 3S bid ralfwil: Yes - flat boards jcomyn: S wopnt pass toobad: dddd leaves spades in bad nick santyclz: May be hard to get to 4 now. mariner1: mirrored hands hurt here lestergold: as well as 4./1 spade break mariner1: as does 4 - 1 ♠ lestergold: ht lead best frodefence mariner1: W might lead a ♠ to help solve the issue rednaxela: Scotland seem to be heading for 6♠ in the open room on board 26. santyclz: (Not that it’s a great contract.).. mariner1: well K lead is sort of nuetral lestergold: well the dim looks ridiculous but gives nothing away in practice lestergold: west had a difficult set of choices lestergold: no lead looks safe mariner1: though 4 sets up rednaxela : The dreaded mirror distribution leaves declarer with few options. lestergold: which unsafe lead was the issue? mariner1: lot to do here for S lestergold: it is a complete perfect mirror rednaxela: 6♠ it is. mariner1: 6♠ also in Open Room on 26 mariner1: ducking this might help lestergold: not much mariner1: neither is winning it attractive lestergold: west will simply continue knowing that it cant cost mariner1: S could hope its a stiff and W has KQ and K♣ mariner1: and she has to be concerned with 4 -1 ♠ too lestergold: i predict 2 off must try tio get something wrong idc: then East switched to ♣ and the setting trick there was gone..p vugraphzms: lost the play jcomyn: she will try to push EW capercliff : hard to see N/S getting into this auction jallerton: 2 transfer to ?..p jallerton: 2♣ transfer to ? steshome: Looked like it idc: Good to see that my predictive skills have ¨ © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ - 78 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) lost none of their usual effectiveness jallerton: a few pairs play 2♣ = weak with either minor here viren169: ummmmmmm jcomyn: see what I mean pkl: What? 3NT is a bit timid jcomyn: A bit!!!! viren169: More imps to Wales! jcomyn: just the hand to defend a partial!!! capercliff: but you never know mariner1 : what is best from how S sees it is tough ........ and its tough and we see more of mariner1: it mariner1: so 6♠ was a push off in Open Room also henryb: the problem with the nebuloud is that N cannot be sure that S has ..p othered1 : 3N makes me wonder if north’s sequence is stronger than it looks mdgraham: aggressive 3NT capercliff: if 2♣ was a transfer, did it have a lower limit? capercliff: must have jallerton: that could be the case here; passing an unlimited transfer on W ould be dangerous idc: I’m no expert on xfer rebids - is 2♣ better than 2NT say with that East hand? idc: not that game is rigid, but a lead from North is a strong possibility capercliff: well if 2♣ was forcing fine diumraid: ****** In Running Scores ******* LIVE from LIMERICK ********- N-Ireland 17, England 16, CBAI 15, IRELAND 15, SCOTLAND 14, WALES 13 capercliff: what is 2 in that case? natural invite? capercliff: or transfer to jcomyn: dont bet on it - you saw the 3NT viren169: 4 clear cut... diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 75, SCOTLAND 69, ENGLAND 62, IRELAND 61, CBAI 58, WALES 31 **** thegarve: if you are 50 ahead flat baords are what you want] tihas: now this should have been doubled..♣A toobad: yuk ralfwil: 3♠ is "from the roof" jcomyn: cant agree with the lead as N is known to hold clubs toobad: i tink on dddd it lose 5 tricks thegarve: a touch-and-go 4♠ so 5 was aphatom in this case..♣3 ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © - 79 - © viren169: what would 4N over 3 be? petepunt: prob 1 off maybe 2 ralfwil: will make on a ♣ lead capercliff: it seems they made 3N mariner1: 3N did make on 10 so huge lead to Scotland jallerton: ♠Q should be suit preference asking ¨ for the higher side suit, in this case ..♣2 pkl: And now Pender discovers that ♠K is well placed... not nice lestergold: south will take finesses play trumps and go two off because that is what hs ehas been dealt the spades are doubloe dummy jallerton: if 2♣ is a transfer then 2 would be preference..♠2 jcomyn: yep away go losing H sharkirl: yes 4h fine contact capercliff: and 2 a transfer to ♠, 2♣ a transfer to ♣ lol.. 4.. 2.. K diumraid: ****** In Running Scores ******* LIVE from LIMERICK ********- N-Ireland 17, England 16, CBAI 15, IRELAND 15, SCOTLAND 14, WALES 13 capercliff : nobody bids the suits they have anymore.. 5 lestergold: no reason to play any different rednaxela: Agreed. mariner1: small chance for CBAI to gain here henryb: 3N down 3 is better than 4 X down 1.. 6 capercliff: they must have been getting coaching from Garvey:).. T.. Q santyclz: It can make but probably wouldn’t on the auction. santyclz: Low back, you want e to win it... A mariner1: yes line is perfectly normal lestergold: and now the doomed club finesse jallerton: East is on the same wavelength.. A viren169: I have specs saying RKCN and Quantative... .. 5.. 3.. 8 viren169: ...RKCB... ralfwil: a funny way to loose only one trumphtrick lestergold: oh trying a heart miracle lestergold: reasonable effort.. 7 santyclz: People who haven’t heard of restricted choice would have no problems... K jcomyn: 4D is clearcut Gad and thats all there is to it.. T sharkirl: beaten now mariner1: play was nice try diumraid: ****** In Running Scores ******* LIVE from LIMERICK ********- N-Ireland 23, ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © © © © © © © © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) CBAI 16, ENGLAND 15, SCOTLAND 15, IRELAND 14, WALES 7.. J viren169: Any wise words of advice from our learned friends? diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 93, N-IRELAND 92, ENGLAND 79, CBAI 69, IRELAND 68, WALES 45 **** lestergold: yes idc : Martin often takes it a step further than bidding suits he doesn’t have..♠Q..♠6..♠5 idc: bidding hands he doesn’t have ralfwil: no! I was wrong and I hadn´·t found 4♠ on W. ..♠A © Board NS: EW: o 3N c 3N 12 this/total IMPs BTN 154 Djarum 1 157 430 400 W 4 W 3 12 4 ♠ A J10 7 8 K J6 10 3 J 7 ♣10 8 7 5 2 ♠K 8 6 N ♠ 94 AQ2 5 W E Q7 32 A K10 8 6 5 4 S ♣Q J 3 ♣ K64 ♠Q5 32 8 3-4 10 9 8 7 4 3 3 9 10 ♣A9 6 -100 W: A HAITANI W 1N 3 3N ¨ N: J BOJOH Open E: OCTAVIAN S: L GONTHA N E S p 3♣ p p 3 p p p p © § © § ª #1 N:: 5,4,A,3 #3 E:: 5,3,Q,K #2 S:: 9,Q,2,K #4 N:: A,4,2,6 vugraphzpv : 2. maclar 15:30 da baslayacak, Major Bogazici-Antalya takimlari vu-graphda olacak, 3. maclar 18:00 de ve Likom-Mersin maci canli yayinlanacak vugraphzpv: teˆ ekkˆ…r ederim vugraphzpv: sizin yardˆ‰mlarˆ‰nˆ‰zda ˆ§ok ˆ ¶nemli seyirciler iˆ§in MolvaM: evet kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k bir squeeze entrenmanˆ ‰ izledik MolvaM: bir fazla lˆ¶ve almamˆ‰zˆ‰n pek ˆ¶ nemi olmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ durumlarda bu tˆ…r ince oyunlarˆ‰ bizler de ne kadar rahat yapabiliyoruz deˆ il mi? tez: bilgisayar bazen boyle eller verebiliyor stolicnaya: Zorlunun sloganˆ‰, BBO daki hesab ˆ‰nda, "Sigara ˆ ldˆ…rˆ…r" :) alichengiz: 3. den kˆ¶rlerle aˆ§ar nafiz relrikas: 1 alichengiz: Murat yiyince.. ergur: 4 S alichengiz: birilerine yaradˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ kesin de © ¨ © - 80 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) alichengiz: bizden baˆ arˆ‰lˆ‰ olduˆ u kesin :) hobakan: kup mu dedi Kenan? diye soruluyor.:) vugraphzpv: evet vugraphzpv: kˆ¶r dedi daha doˆ rusu alichengiz: bol gollˆ… bir maˆ§ oluyor, 5 -1 ¨ olan 24. elden 10 sayˆ‰ Kolbastˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰ na, 3nt +1 olan 25. elden 11 sayˆ‰ senyˆ¶rler tak ˆ‰mˆ‰na vugraphzpv: son board vugraphzpv: herkese ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…rler hobakan: ben de ˆ¶yle dedim zaten.. kˆ¶r demiˆ tir de ondan ˆ¶yle oynanmˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰r:) MolvaM: bu masadaki son boardumuz alichengiz: Nazˆ‰m, kadˆ‰nlarˆ‰mˆ‰z demiˆ , Bayan demiyorum, kimse kusura bakmasˆ‰n vugraphzpv: bayanlar final maˆ§ˆ‰nˆ‰n 2. tur sonuˆ§larˆ‰na gˆ¶re vugraphzpv: Ege59 alichengiz: Kenan sizi kˆ‰rmadˆ‰ "bayan" dedi :) vugraphzpv: Likom 75 alichengiz: Saˆ olasˆ‰n Kenan vugraphzpv: 3.lˆ…k maˆ§ˆ‰nˆ‰n 2. tur sonuˆ§ larˆ‰na gˆ¶re vugraphzpv: Mersin Hosgˆ¶rˆ… ise 2 ˆ‰mp Hosgˆ¶rˆ… ˆ¶nde vbman: gˆ¶zˆ…nˆ…zˆ… toptan bir saniye ayˆ‰ rmak pahalˆ‰ya mal oluyor..1N alichengiz: ˆ§ˆ‰k takˆ‰mlarˆ‰n maˆ§larˆ‰ ile devam edecek VG yayˆ‰mˆ‰ emre kaya: halbuki vale kˆ¶rˆ… iyi koymustu alichengiz: 4 +1 fahir : kˆ¶r 9lusunun kendi elinde olduˆ unu unuttu herhalde kˆ¶r asla ezseydi hala kontrat oluyordu..p tez: ellerin cogu sakin alichengiz: Aˆ§ˆ‰k alichengiz: Maykˆ‰ls (michael) yapar mˆ‰ derken relrikas: yapar da bu elle deil alichengiz: diˆ er masada NS 4♠ -2 olmuˆ MolvaM: bir sonraki devre 1530 da baˆ layacak MolvaM: herkesi bekleriz. 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MolvaM : peki biraz da splinter sorularˆ‰na cevap verelim alichengiz: 3 nt batˆ‰lˆ‰larˆ‰n deyiiyle kˆ¶ pek gezdirme bordu oldu alichengiz: diˆ er masada aˆ§ˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ alichengiz: ˆ imdi -1 alichengiz: diˆ er masada da baˆ langˆ‰ˆ§ eli aynˆ‰ ve sonra karo dˆ¶nˆ…lmˆ…ˆ hobakan: kˆ¶rˆ… verince defans 4 lˆ¶ve alabiliyor MolvaM: bu bord hariˆ§ diˆ er masadan haldunfikret ˆ§ifti sˆ…per bir skor kaˆ ˆ‰dˆ‰ getirmiˆ ler tez: ortak valeyi yada asˆ‰nˆ‰ ver anlamˆ‰na geliyor bizde..♣Q vbman: korka korka oyna bakalˆ‰m ˆ imdi alichengiz: 2 yapˆ‰lˆ‰yor bu arada alichengiz: +1 mˆ…mkˆ…n alichengiz: 5♣ olduda bitti alichengiz: oluyor ama gelmek imkansˆ‰z gibi kabexnuf: neler oluyor :)..♣2 MolvaM: 5 seviyesi kime aittir? alichengiz: pik empasˆ‰nˆ‰n atˆ‰lmasˆ‰nˆ‰ n kesin mi olduˆ u soruluyor, 8 kart renge oynarken, baˆ ka endikasyon yoksa empas atmak gerekiyor, bu elde endikasyonda var, A ˆ§ekip empas atˆ‰lˆ ‰r ovncylmz: irfan el bitiminde cildirirsa sasmamak lazim..♣K vugraphzpv : sanˆ‰rˆ‰m son boardlarˆ‰ bekliyorlarmˆ‰ˆ :) oyuncular kabexnuf: masa 26. bordu bekliyormus alichengiz: dengeli olmakla birlikta .. 5 MolvaM: hangi 6y4n tarz5 d6.. 3 MolvaM: hangi oyun tarzˆ‰ doˆ ru? MolvaM: ˆ§ift karo empasˆ‰? MolvaM: deklaran muhtemelen pik empasˆ‰ yapmayacak MolvaM: herhalde en iyisi pikleri ˆ§ekip pikle ˆ§ˆ ‰kmak MolvaM: ve onra gerekirse kˆ¶r empasˆ‰ MolvaM: ˆ u an deklaran 13. treflin gˆ…neyde olduˆ unu dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor muhtemelen tez: 11 tez: ♠ i bagislarsa simdi..iyi defans olacak.. Q nafiz: canlˆ‰ yayˆ‰n programˆ‰nˆ‰ http:// online.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php sitesinden takip edebilirsiniz, tx to Roland saol ‰yor ¨ © © © - 83 - alichengiz: Ege takˆ‰mˆ‰ ise, Serap Carfi, Gˆ …l Tercan, Mine Babaˆ§, Dilek yavaˆ ve diˆ er iki oyuncu iˆ§in bakmam lazˆ‰m MolvaM: birˆ§ok ortaklˆ‰k splinter’i belli puan limitleri arasˆ‰nda oynuyor.. K MolvaM: ˆ¶rneˆ in 10-12 ˆ eklinde..♠A MolvaM: dolayˆ‰sˆ‰ ile arigun splinter yapamazd ˆ‰ alichengiz: :) arigun: neticede 140 iyi skor oldu ama cogu elde kaybettirebilir, ortginda 3 tane olmasa... MolvaM: belki bu nedenle pik vale empasˆ‰ yapabilir mi?..♠4 tez: 1 iceri girecek MolvaM: aslˆ‰nda arˆ‰gˆ…n ˆ…n 2 trefl ile baˆ layˆ‰p 3 pik demesi "ben ˆ lem istiyorum" anlamˆ‰nda idi MolvaM : nuri ise ben ilgili deˆ ilim deyince cengiz de ˆ lem hevesinden vazgeˆ§ti MolvaM : eˆ er nuri de bir kˆ…bid yapsa idi cengiz muhtemelen keycard sorup ˆ lem diyecekti tez: zayif sanzatuya kontr 14+ begse: dilek direk 3♣ deseydi iyi el gˆ¶steriyor oynuyorlar muhtemelen 2nt good-bad hobakan: bu arada 2 tane zon kaˆ§ˆ‰rdˆ‰klarˆ ‰nˆ‰n farkˆ‰nda. ince ince hesap yapˆ‰ yordur Nevzat Abi:) alichengiz: 3 tur ♠ dedi bir seyirci, haklˆ‰, olmaz (omsalih) ovncylmz: arkadaslarim diye demiyorum ama 4ntXX gercekten sansli bence..♠2 alichengiz: 1♠ aˆ§ˆ‰p 1nt ye 2♣, (bilmeyenler iˆ§in) relrikas: atarˆ‰m alichengiz: Nˆ HAL MATRACI, Dˆ LEK KUNDAK ˆI alichengiz: 4 oyuncu ˆ zmirden Ee takˆ‰mˆ‰ nda, Dilek Yavaˆ Bursa, Mine Babaˆ§ ˆ st alichengiz: Lkom ise ˆ stanbul aˆ ˆ‰rlˆ‰klˆ‰ 2 de Ankaralˆ‰ oyuncu var tez: kaza olmazsa..♠6 alichengiz: eˆ er 1nt semi forcing se alichengiz: 5-11 ise yani kabexnuf: 4nt cok iyiydi tez: kuvvetli sanzatuya kontr genellikle konvansiyonel bisey oynaniyor alichengiz: antre yok karolara, sorun yok alichengiz: diyen ˆ§ˆ‰kar, zon durumu uygun de ˆ il © ¨ Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) Board NS: EW: o 3N c 3N 12 this/total IMPs Djarum 1 157 BTN 154 430 400 W 4 W 3 12 4 ♠ A J10 7 8 K J6 10 3 J 7 ♣10 8 7 5 2 ♠K 8 6 N ♠ 94 AQ2 5 W E Q7 32 A K10 8 6 5 4 S ♣Q J 3 ♣ K64 ♠Q5 32 8 3-4 10 9 8 7 4 3 3 9 10 ♣A9 6 -100 W: Piskanto W 1 2N p ¨ N: Anthony S Closed S: Kamto N E p 2 p 3N p ¨ E: Franky K S p p ªT,4,2,K #2 W::¨2,J,A,9 ¨4,©3,¨Q,§2 #4 W::¨3,§5,¨K,©4 ¨T,ªQ,¨7,§7 #6 E::¨8,©7,ª6,©6 ¨6,©8,ª8, #1 N:: #3 E:: #5 E:: #7 E:: mdgraham: hmm vugraphzme: luks left for a moment othered1: price for doubling 3N, losing 50 points ¨ if they manage to run to 4 , seems fair to pick up large swing when they don’t. mdgraham: still, if you make a habit of overcalling on Jxxxx and a king, partner is going to be reluctant to double 3NT with "only" two aces othered1: of course, my partners have overcall values when they overcall henryb: It was S who overcalled on Jxxxx and a K, not W vugraphzme: ok, he’s back idc : I wasn’t sure but my wife said 4 ♠ was making jcomyn: I am beyond words viren169: Yes 4 was best... pkl: Depends on system - but I probably would agree with 4 or 4NT natural toobad: easier seeing just 2 hands ¨ ¨ jcomyn: foul misfit - where do we end up diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 76, SCOTLAND 69, ENGLAND 61, IRELAND 61, CBAI 59, WALES 30 **** thegarve: lets see if they reach 3NT mariner1: CBAI bid 3N on 27 in Open Room mariner1: wild breaks here rednaxela: CBAI in 3NT on 27 and favoured with a Club lead into the AQ. lestergold: an exciting looking hand a simple 5c conjtcat tho or e/w seems the only possible game mdgraham: yes, general,principle, not pointing the finger at anyone..1 idc: and I suspect she is right, since a can go on the K mariner1: yes 5♣ nice spot capercliff: they did well to stay low at any rate..p viren169: 4N should be quantative (unless agreed otherwise off course) jcomyn: both could play in H again idc: Scotland stopped in 3 on Board 10 when 4 was makeable, but enough for 6 IMPs and a tied match..2 thegarve: depends which finesse you take jallerton : 2 Multi. Not one to show to the children idc: true, but I suspect the likely leads are A or 7, both of which might suggest the working line thegarve: bids like this 2 often push oppo into a thin 3NT jcomyn: but u do that and the d suit vanishes - I hate quantittive whatever it means petepunt: 2♠ likely ralfwil: interesting - EW found 5♠ on board 8 instead of a contract jcomyn: no she cant be thinking capercliff: 4♠ is on rednaxela: interesting! lestergold: needs accurate bidding here mariner1: 3N made on 27 so its all close viren169: 10 tricks here on a spade lead......p jallerton: yes, S was very close to raising..2N jcomyn: phew jcomyn: will play in one of Wests minors or ahve their throats cut mariner1: even 5 is on capercliff: I can understand not raising, maybe N should X first?..p thegarve: hard to play a low and freeze the suit mariner1: Scotland is probably in a tie or close ¨ © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ © ¨ © © - 84 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) with NI now..3N diumraid: ****** In Running Scores ******* LIVE from LIMERICK ********- N-Ireland 19, CBAI 17, ENGLAND 16, SCOTLAND 14, IRELAND 13, WALES 11..p rednaxela: Anyone know what happens if the teams end up on the same VP total? lestergold: well 3n might be klet tthru its true but 3n played by east would fail to the obvious qd lead lestergold: and why should west end up bidding it with 2 small ims mariner1: probably a head to head tie breaker??? mdgraham: EW seem to have stolen this one..p..p jcomyn: 2NT-3C then 3D and bobs your uncle simple game jcomyn: why wont they xX anyone tell me jcomyn: where do they go for tricks toobad: no source of tricks toobad: 7 on top ralfwil: cannot find any D on S! do you agree? jcomyn: do we bid on the S hand and if so what? santyclz: I very much dislike opening 1nt without a 3+card major. This might be an exception...♠T henryb: presumably all interference is 2-suited so N could not introduce his ♣..♠4 othered1: I guess you look at the 5-card suit and upgrade west hand to 11, ignoring that some of the 10 is junk. But it worked just fine here mdgraham: odd that North didn’t try 3♣ petepunt: nice discipline lestergold: well second best game henryb: N was in a live position and vulnerable. ..♠2 jcomyn: when vul and caught stay caught viren169: oops.....♠K jcomyn: against vul opps you never know ralfwil: that´·s my opinion ralfwil: with a ♣ lead from N 10 tricka!.. 2 jcomyn: could be an easy 500 for all you know thegarve: live a bit mariner1: this might be a break for NS jallerton: 5 lead was a highish pip.. J jcomyn: why does the 12-count make the final decision in any case? petepunt: Ace for aatt Kfor count is needed here santyclz: In 1st-3rd, I’d open 1 , but in 4th ... well ... 1nt. but I wouldn’t like it. toobad: i would just pass ......... some hands u just get shafted and have to pass.. A lestergold: third dim the killer mariner1: http://www.cbai.ie/ - Tournament Site ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 85 - ¨ mariner1: and 7 more on board 11.. 9 mariner1: Scotland is doing a lot to help their cause for the trophy diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 93, N-IRELAND 93, ENGLAND 81, CBAI 69, IRELAND 67, WALES 43 **** mariner1: seems N-Ireland is too though mariner1: http://www.cbai.ie/documents/LadyMilneScoreBoard.pdf Scores henryb: East was not yet limited.. 4 capercliff: 31c is a view diumraid: ****** In Running Scores ******* LIVE from LIMERICK ********- N-Ireland 19, CBAI 17, ENGLAND 15, SCOTLAND 15, IRELAND 13, WALES 11 capercliff: opposite a passed partner at these colors is ok capercliff: ♣ mariner1: http://www.cbai.ie/documents/LadyMilneMatchResults.pdf results idc: They could have tried a gambling 3NT - I think I would in 3rd at favourable vul.. 3 diumraid: ****** In Running Scores ******* LIVE from LIMERICK ********- N-Ireland 19, CBAI 17, ENGLAND 15, SCOTLAND 15, IRELAND 13, WALES 11 jallerton: nice defence, promoting a trump trick for partner steshome: Susan has found the right defence here capercliff: yes she can see the Qx in her hand ralfwil: yes! sometimes our opps have to play the board. With bad success is my wish.. Q..♣2 jcomyn: and 2S is not a good spot anyway thegarve: the lead suggested not holding T else would have lead low initially.. 3..♣5 toobad: 200 in most contracts.. K.. 4 ralfwil : agree! In modern bridge, thet cannot double for penalty on lower levels othered1: I’d write this off as things working out just perfectly for EW, not charging north... T..♠ Q viren169: East had to do a bit more with her 12count..... 7..♣7.. 8.. 7 thegarve: Scotland have got 6 and 5 back tp offset the 10 losss..♠6 lestergold: a club from north cutting declarer off from the club suit would have perhaps been a stronger defence mariner1: so off 1 toobad : when one does double a low level ¨ © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) © ¨ © contract, most pards pull it anyway.. 6 capercliff : they always have a ♠ loser, but defence gave a losing option.. 6.. 8..♠8 toobad: board 26 CBAI EW were in 5c 1 off for a gain of 9 to NI lestergold: i do not ubnderstand the 2s bid why support on two small when i have a zillion card suitr of my own? mariner1: Open Room also in 4♠ here Board NS: EW: o 1N c 4♠ 13 W 1 W -1 this/total IMPs BTN 154 Djarum 5 162 90 100 13 ♠Q 8 6 K654 742 ♣K J 5 ♠ K10 9 5 N ♠J732 A97 Q J10 8 W E K8 A10 5 S ♣A 8 6 2 ♣10 9 ♠A 4 32 Q J963 ♣Q 7 4 3 140 W: A HAITANI W 1N 6 4 5 6 7 7 9 8 6 6 N: J BOJOH Open E: OCTAVIAN S: L GONTHA N E S p p p p p p ©4,Q,3,7 ¨Q,K,2,5 ©9,K,J,§3 ©T,§4,2,©6 §5,9,Q,A #1 N:: #3 S:: #5 W:: #7 E:: #9 N:: ªJ,A,5,6 ©A,5,8,2 ¨4,A,3,8 ª3,4,9,Q #2 E:: #4 W:: #6 N:: #8 E:: MolvaM: bu el diˆ er tarafta yapˆ‰lˆ‰nca atabey 12 imp kazandˆ‰ ovncylmz: irfan rakibin anlasamadigini dusundu bence sybarra: maybe a lesson hand for the jrs? vugraphzpv: slm ˆ mer hoˆ geldin ovncylmz: bu da ayri bir el:) MolvaM: partaje eller uyku getirir alichengiz: ortakta 11 olabilceˆ i iˆ§in 14+ ile uzun rengimiz olmasa bile uzun veya iyi minˆ¶rˆ …mˆ…zˆ… sˆ¶yleriz alichengiz: ortak limite oluncada ne oynayacaˆ ˆ ‰mˆ‰za karar veririz ergur: barcelona chelsi 0 0 alichengiz: en gˆ…zel empas, gˆ¶z empasˆ‰dˆ ‰r, siz siz olun elinizi gizleyin alichengiz: nt aˆ§ˆ‰nca hobakan: az sonra:):) alichengiz: evet 6 yapˆ‰labiliyor, ♠’i bilmeˆ e baˆ lˆ‰ © - 86 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) ¨ hobakan: malesef bilmek yok. hobakan: bu el de ˆ§ok kritik hobakan: maˆ§ˆ‰n 14 el ya da 90 dakika olduˆ ogoksel: pas partaj :)..1N tez: olma yuzdeside cok dusuk kabexnuf: bence cok iyi bir ders cˆ‰karˆ‰lˆ‰r unu zaman zaman masada unutan bizler iˆ§in bir set olmuˆ :) alichengiz: trefli boˆ lamamasˆ‰ gerekiyordu tabi ki, tehlikeli karo renginden dolatˆ‰, zira almasˆ‰nˆ‰n hiˆ§ bir sakˆ‰ncasˆ‰ yok alichengiz: bˆ‰rakan batar arigun: tek renkli eli icin iyi-kotu ayrimini nasil yapiyorlar acaba... onun icinde good-bad olabilir, demekki ortaklik anlasmalari boyle, lakin bu durumda mine’nin minorler anladi ise ... arigun: 4♣ demesi gerekirdi belki arigun: muhtemelen bir anlasmazlik oldu veya mine rakibi uyandirip 4 dedirtmeyeyim diye dusundu... gravity: Bana gore riskli bi dbl di, 40 yas ˆ…stˆ … abiler rdbl i dˆ…sˆ…nmeden atarlar aklinizda olsun,dbl atarken dikkatli olun :)..p gravity: junior turnuvasidiil bu :) MolvaM: bu eller ise partajenin en ˆ¶nde gidenleri alichengiz : kaˆ§ kaˆ§ oynadˆ‰klarˆ‰nˆ‰ Kenan sˆ¶yleyebilir mi, Zayˆ‰f nt onadˆ‰klarˆ ‰ ksin ama vbman: burada nuri karo stresine girmedi hobakan: pik dam tek:) tez: 6 oluyor ama soylemek cok zor..p kabexnuf: :) MolvaM: diˆ er masada peyret 2 pik aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ ne gˆ¶steriyordu? zayˆ‰f el deˆ il herhalde? alichengiz: 3 nt de hiˆ§ sorun toktu alichengiz: EW 3nt ye gelebilir alichengiz: zaten biliyorda, ˆ§ˆ‰kmaˆ a diyelim tez: 6♣ cok mantiksiz bir kontrat degil ama ♣ empas gecmiyor batiyor..p tez: 1♣ 2♣ 2nt 3♠(tek)3nt olacak bu masadada tez: 1♣ 2♣=inverted minor..♣ tutusu 4lu major yok 11+ oynuyorlar acelik04: karˆ ˆ‰laˆ malarda her iki tarafˆ‰nda zon seviyesinde declere verdiˆ i boardlar maˆ§ˆ‰ n sonucunu belirliyor alichengiz: Anter tarafˆ‰nda ilginˆ§ ihale de olur, salvo ♣ atak ederse pek ˆ ansˆ‰ yok alichengiz: atak sorusu alichengiz: kˆ¶r geˆ§mese bile ♣ dˆ¶nebiliyorsa ♣ ler 4-3 tˆ…r MolvaM: Zaim’den ˆ§ok doˆ ru ve samimi bir aˆ§ ˆ‰klama :) begse: tabii 2nt alternatifinde ♣ ˆ art degil belki karolar rekabet eli var o yˆ…zden minenin pasˆ‰ normal bu elden. ¨ © © - 87 - ovncylmz: ben mactan sonra irfanla konusucam gravity: zon kontratlarina dbl atak icin yapilir.bien i bende diye atilmaz ovncylmz: bakalim ne diycek tez: 9/12 iyi 6lˆ‰ ♠ vugraphzpv: maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰ ve butler sˆ‰ ralamasˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz vugraphzpv: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=195: tuerkye-bayan-doertlue-sonuclari&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 alichengiz: 4 lˆ… tutuˆ la ceza pasˆ‰na yatmaz sanˆ‰rˆ‰m (Trap pas) fahir: kuzeyden 3NT trefl ataˆ ˆ‰na batˆ‰yor alichengiz: NS tabi ki ovncylmz: 11-15 beyaz alichengiz: 5-2 ise zaten dˆ¶nemez alichengiz : son maˆ§ saat 18:de baˆ lˆ‰yor, hepinizi bekliyoruz alichengiz: Son ellere geldiˆ imizde MolvaM: kandemir pas ilginˆ§..p ergur: fikret 2h yapar ovncylmz: 12-15 kirmizi tez: emine pas demez ondan eminim:)..p MolvaM: diˆ er masada 3pik tam yapˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ . iyi bir skor bence MolvaM: bu elden maksoy 10 imp daha kazanabilir vbman: ˆ§ok oyuncu bˆ¶yle ˆ§ˆ‰kacak oyunlarˆ ‰ zorlayarak batˆ‰rˆ‰yor, ama nurinin tecrˆ… besi de su gˆ¶tˆ…rmez alichengiz: 11-14 olabilir, min ellerin hepsi ile nt aˆ§ˆ‰yorlar sanˆ‰rˆ‰m hobakan: ˆ imdilik aynˆ‰ alichengiz: Teˆ kkˆ…rler Kenan :) alichengiz: 1 2♣ sonra? arigun: 2 key card ve siganla 4 cok muhafazakar deil mi..p ovncylmz: 2karo neymis ken? ergur: haldun abi oynayacak alichengiz: zon oynarlarsa 12 lik swing hobakan: 6 Nt de olur:), alichengiz: 13 MolvaM: Likom 115 Ege 48 son tura girerken ki durum (bayanlar final maˆ§ˆ‰nˆ‰n) tez : evet ama simdiye kadar iyi gittiler riske girmek istemiyor.. 4 MolvaM: 3c aˆ§sa idi iyi olurdu. ˆ imdi 4kˆ¶r bulunabilir ¨© © © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) MolvaM: gˆ…ney 3lˆ… kˆ¶r gˆ¶sterdi kontr ile ovncylmz : mesela ortagim 1nt ye overcall MolvaM: evet 11 imp geliyor bahˆ§eˆ ehire..♠5 alichengiz: kozlarˆ‰ alˆ‰p, ♠ le yere ve ♣ pas yapmisken 4pike cakabilirim:) ovncylmz: cakmayayim bunla da tez: 2nt mi 2♠ mi diyecek tez: merak fahir: kuzeyden oynanma riski kalmadˆ‰ alichengiz: fazlalarlar alichengiz: berabere murat: :) alichengiz: 15-15 maˆ§ skoru bu elden sonra begse: mine ortagˆ‰nda ♣ oldugundan emin degil MolvaM: 9 lˆ¶ve toplamak kolay deˆ il.. Q MolvaM: maksoy-deniz hobakan: 4.den 3 Nt ler kumar menˆ eli olur. tez: masa psikolojisi.. 3 tez: hatice ve filiz oyle oynuyorlarmis tez: anlasirsaniz sorun yok vbman: dbl tehlikeli alichengiz: 5 ucuz barajdˆ‰ alichengiz: aˆ§ˆ‰k oda skoru ilginˆ§ MolvaM: genelde ortaklar bu gibi durumlarda, " ben eli analiz ettim ve 4 kˆ¶rˆ…n olmayacaˆ ˆ‰n ˆ‰ net 1 ˆ ekilde gˆ¶rdˆ…m" derler arigun: muhtemelen MolvaM: diˆ er masa ile aynˆ‰ gitti alichengiz: kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k koz ataˆ ˆ‰ iyi MolvaM: bu board alˆ‰ˆ veriˆ olmaz pek ergur: yapar.. 7 alichengiz: 3 ’e iyi defanslarˆ‰ vardˆ‰ vbman: kalpler ˆ§arpmaya baˆ ladˆ‰ ama cengiz susacak galliba alichengiz: Merhaba murat :) hobakan: 8 sayˆ‰ daha matrix’e tez : konvansiyonlar icin bu dogru bu yanlis demek anlamsiz..♠J tez: bende ♣ tekken ortak ♣ ten splinter yapsa ne hos olurdu degil mi?..♠A MolvaM: muhtemelen atabeytakˆ‰mˆ‰ bu elden 1-2 imp kazanˆ‰r bence tez: 5 nt olacak alichengiz: Bu baˆ arˆ‰lˆ‰ Organizasyon iˆ§in, Yeni Federasyon baˆ kanˆ‰mˆ‰z Fahir ˆ zˆ… mcˆ… ve ekibi canla baˆ la ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰, kendilerine Teˆ ekkˆ…r ediyoruz, BBO ise bu maˆ§larˆ‰n aktarˆ‰lmasˆ‰nda, olmazssa ... alichengiz: olmaz, harika bir iˆ yapˆ‰yorsun Kenan ve Seyirci arkadaˆ lar, seyrettiˆ iniz iˆ§in te ˆ ekkˆ…rler alichengiz: dˆ…il sˆ…rˆ§melerinden ˆ¶tˆ…rˆ… kusura bakmayˆ‰n ˆ‰ atˆ‰p el aˆ§acak tez: 4 diyecek ve olacak saniyorum alichengiz: Nafizin tarafˆ‰ndan olasˆ‰ karo ata ˆ ˆ‰ndan sonra A ♠ ♠ oynanˆ‰r ve yapˆ‰lˆ‰r 3 nt alichengiz: 3. den zayˆ‰f ellerle MolvaM: Bir saniye kˆ‰praˆ mayˆ‰n lˆ…tfen :) Resmi teˆ ekkˆ…r faslˆ‰ baˆ lˆ‰yor... alichengiz: 1♠ dememsi zayˆ‰f elle 4-4 major varsa hemen bulalˆ‰m dmek iˆ§indi sanˆ‰ yorum MolvaM: Tˆ…rkiye Aˆ§ˆ‰k Dˆ¶rtlˆ… Takˆ‰ mlar ˆ ampiyonasˆ‰nˆ‰n sonuna geldik. Dereceye giren tˆ…m takˆ‰mlarˆ‰ kutluyoruz. ˆ ampiyonan ˆ‰n baˆ ˆ‰ndan bu yana her devre vugraf sunumu yaparak bizlere bir briˆ§ ... MolvaM: ˆ ˆ¶leni yaˆ atan TBF’yi, Baˆ kan Fahir ˆ zˆ…mcˆ…’yˆ… ve tˆ…m gˆ¶revlileri kutluyor ve teˆ ekkˆ…r ediyoruz. MolvaM: Bu yayˆ‰nˆ‰ bizlere adeta masa baˆ ˆ ‰ndaymˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰z gibi canlˆ‰ olarak getiren ve gˆ¶nˆ…llˆ… olarak ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ an sevgili vugraf operatˆ¶rlerimize; bizlere yayˆ‰nlarda deˆ erli yorumlarˆ‰ ile ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰k tutan ... MolvaM: tˆ…m yorumcularˆ‰mˆ‰za; siz sevgili seyircilerimize; son olarak da BBO’ya ve vugraf koordinatˆ¶rˆ…mˆ…z Roland Wald’a teˆ ekkˆ… rlerimizi sunarak teˆ ekkˆ…r faslˆ‰nˆ‰ bitirelim... alichengiz : BBO TBF ve Emek verenler ve seyredenler, Teˆ ekˆ…rler, Hoˆ ˆ§akalˆ‰n :) MolvaM: KOLBASTI takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰ da ˆ…stˆ …n performanslarˆ‰ndan dolayˆ‰ ˆ¶zellikle kutluyoruz MolvaM: 3pik deklaresini sorumluluk transferi olarak oynuyorlar demek ki..♠6 ergur: kotu kontrat tez: bilemedim:( relrikas: sanˆ‰rˆ‰m bi chck bck 2way chck bck karˆ‰sˆ‰klˆ‰gˆ‰ oldu relrikas: Kuzey davet etmeli alichengiz: maykˆ‰ls’dˆ‰ MolvaM: 4 piki sen de sen bat ortak.. Q tez: partajmi diye sor..diger ele gec alichengiz: bu sekanslarˆ‰nˆ‰ bilmiyorum.. K alichengiz: atak gˆ¶stermek iˆ§in 1 ♠ aˆ§ˆ‰ labileceˆ i iˆ§in alichengiz : aˆ§anˆ‰n ortaˆ ˆ‰nda davet eli varsa, Drury diye adlandˆ‰rˆ‰lan bir konvensiyonla yanˆ‰t verir © © ¨ © © © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ - 88 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) MolvaM: ben 1 sˆ…re ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰yorum. sona gˆ¶r alichengiz: noname ve yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran kaˆ§ar say ˆ…mek dileˆ iyle.. 2 ˆ‰ ile ˆ§ˆ‰ktˆ‰lar Danish turuna acaba? alichengiz: tutmasa de karo verip ♣ empasˆ‰na kalacaktˆ‰.. 8 alichengiz: gereksiz ♠ pasˆ‰ alichengiz: ikili turnuva oynasak olabilir hobakan: herkese ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…rler.. :) hobakan: bˆ…y hobakan: tebrikler:):) alichengiz: 858 seyircimiz olmuˆ maˆ§ biterken, kˆ¶tˆ… deˆ il :) tez: eger atak rengi yerde 1 den fazla olsa..atagi alinca sayisiyla donmek gerekiyor.. T alichengiz: tutuyorum seni, nasˆ‰l aˆ§tˆ‰n, zon olur mu demek alichengiz: AJ10xx ˆ¶rneˆ in ˆ§ok gˆ…zel..♣4.. ♣2 vugraphzpv: 1 1♣ diye claim yaptˆ‰ irfan do ˆ an.. 6 arigun: dekleran ♣ de biraz acele etti... disardaki 5 koz’un hepsine verecek neredeyse... ergur: .. arigun: ucuncu nokta eksik kaldi hayati :) alichengiz: -1 olacak gibi, 2 sayˆ‰ Pekˆ en’e MolvaM: bayanlarda ise son devreye 67 imp ˆ¶ nde giren Lˆ KOM takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰ kutluyoruz vugraphzpv: 2 transfermiˆ ..♠3 sybarra: it going to double, better beat it vugraphzpv : sonradan konuˆ ursa 6 4 falan oluyormuˆ alichengiz: buradan ˆ§ok kolay gibi gˆ¶rˆ…nene hareketler masada kolay olmuyor ergur: battˆ‰-2..♠4..♠9..♠Q..♣5..♣9..♣Q..♣ A ¨ tez: 3nt nin hic sansi yok alichengiz: koz oynanamazsa biraz ¨ ele.. 5 ¨ ¨ ˆ§akar alichengiz: 2 alichengiz: arkadaˆ lar, masa 1 de onuyorsunuz, her gˆ…n A grubundan B grubuna dˆ…ˆ mek sˆ¶z konusu.. A alichengiz: 2♣ olabilir 2 olabilir tez: irem niye yere ♣ caktirmiyor diye merak ediyordur.. 5 tez: fransizcanin mi ingilizcenin mi dogru oldugunu tartismak gibi bisey:) alichengiz: -2 gibi ˆ imdi vbman: valeyi koyma hobakan: o yˆ…zden pek ilgilenmedi Fikret Abi. alichengiz: 0 8 sayˆ‰ ile birlikte, 17-13 e geldi maˆ§ tez: ♠ 10 donusu sorunu halleder.. 8 tez: atak edilen renk yerde tekse sayisiyla degil alichengiz: Murat 5 li renkle ormalde Nt aˆ§ar eli gˆ…zel alichengiz: heyecn stres yorgunluk, ne derseniz deyin.. 2 MolvaM : dˆ¶rdˆ…ncˆ… trefl oynasa ilginˆ§ olabilirdi MolvaM: kˆ¶r oyunu ise deklaranˆ‰ anˆ‰nda huzura kavuˆ turdu MolvaM: ˆ .. 9 alichengiz: ortaklˆ‰k anlaˆ masˆ‰, yapay tez: yu dogru oynadi 5 e oynuyor cunku..sirtta rua tekse boyle kazanir.. K MolvaM: bu masada 4 piki kim demeli idi? MolvaM: bence erol turan hobakan: tabi minˆ¶re dayalˆ‰ da olabilir anlam ˆ‰nda ovncylmz: bundan sonraki macimiz kacta?.. J.. ♣3 alichengiz: rus ruletiydi bu MolvaM: veya suya sabuna dokunmadan karo oynansa bile batma ˆ ansˆ‰ vardˆ‰ alichengiz: evet inˆ¶re dayalˆ‰ el olma ihtimali yˆ…ksek 4. den 3nt lerin.. 4 alichengiz: benim ˆ¶nerim, ˆ¶nˆ…mˆ…zdeki sene gidin oynayˆ‰n.. A.. 3 tez: buyugunu donmek gerekiyor 3 tane kaldiysa alichengiz: 5li renk olunca 14+1 15 nt aˆ§ˆ‰ labilir, tabi renk biraz ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ abilecek bir kalitede olmalˆ‰ MolvaM: oyun oldukˆ§a hˆ‰zlˆ‰ oynanˆ‰yor MolvaM: ˆ imdi pik J10 gelince sorun yok © © ¨ © © ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ - 89 - ¨ © © © ¨ Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) Board NS: EW: o 1N c 4♠ 13 W 1 W -1 this/total IMPs Djarum 5 162 BTN 154 90 100 13 ♠Q 8 6 K654 742 ♣K J 5 ♠ K10 9 5 N ♠J732 A97 Q J10 8 W E K8 A10 5 S ♣A 8 6 2 ♣10 9 ♠A 4 32 Q J963 ♣Q 7 4 3 140 W: Piskanto W 1♣ 1♠ 4♠ ¨2,A,3,8 ¨7,5,J,K §3,A,5,9 ©Q,3,, #1 N:: #3 N:: #5 S:: #7 E:: N: Anthony S Closed S: Kamto N E p p p 1 p 2♠ p p © ª ª ª 6 4 5 6 7 7 9 8 6 6 E: Franky K S p p p p #2 E:: 2,4,T,Q #4 W:: K,6,3,A #6 W:: 5,8,J, 2 © othered1: systems can burn you, like keeping north from making a natural and sensible 2♣ overcall. But who plays that natural against weak NT? idc : My memory of recent Lady Milnes is of close Scotland England matches jcomyn: slam bid of course in open room pkl: One more slam - with NS. Should be possible to get there jcomyn: yes but... viren169: Looks like anything is possible here... jcomyn : this is a kind of after-you-claudette game diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 94, N-IRELAND 92, ENGLAND 81, CBAI 68, IRELAND 68, WALES 43 **** diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 94, N-IRELAND 92, ENGLAND 81, CBAI 68, IRELAND 68, WALES 43 **** mariner1: who bids ♠ 1st :) rednaxela: Scotland in 4♠ on the Open Room. mariner1: 4 has play here NS jcomyn: even EW playing the contract..p diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING from LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 61, SCOTLAND 52, IRELAND 47, ENGLAND 45, CBAI 39, WALES 26 ***** ralfwil: Sometimes God punishes immediately, in other cases in due time jcomyn: can they get to H slam? diumraid: ****** In Running Scores ******* LIVE from LIMERICK ********- N-Ireland 25, CBAI 15, ENGLAND 15, SCOTLAND 15, IRELAND 15, WALES 5..p idc: but England usually do better against the other countries, and win steshome: Brown and Stockdale are a young pair - key to the team for the future viren169: Knight has a great hand opposite 1 opening... jcomyn: 4D now? pkl: A super hand, yes. viren169: I prefer 3♣ as FJ jcomyn: more competition. Nothing wrong with the boards toobad: it can all change v quickly.......... we lost 34 in 3 quick boards against wales last night............ i’ll stay enthusiastically optimistic jcomyn: can they even get to game now? ralfwil: 6 is a good slam diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 77, SCOTLAND 70, ENGLAND 60, IRELAND 60, CBAI 58, WALES 31 **** mariner1: only part scores again lestergold: i dont knowm their system but in my simple bridge style i res;pond 1n and then bid clubs forever and ever after pkl: There are so many variations in system here, a bid is impossible to predict...p mdgraham: maybe, but these -110’s and -110’s add up to 6 imps a go..1♣ viren169: or RKCB and bid 6 jcomyn: now 4S and that might be that lestergold: till pard realises that his stuiff K is gold dust jallerton: Does N have enough for 3♠?..p idc: 4 easy enough but will NS sac in 4♠? idc: so going to form so far © © © © © - 90 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) thegarve : in recent times England have had many new players or partneships playing idc: and a good way to blood promising pairs it is too..1 pkl: So S chose 2♠ - probably at least invitational raise in hearts. Works well here - not good old Black jcomyn: must bid again jcomyn: dbl? what suit do you want to play in toobad: dont be naughty JC santyclz : Adequate defense. S should have cashed the k before exiting with the ♠. Otherwise could be endplayed for +90 even if e had k222. diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 77, SCOTLAND 70, ENGLAND 60, IRELAND 60, CBAI 58, WALES 31 **** santyclz: A good hand for 2-way checkback. diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 94, N-IRELAND 92, ENGLAND 79, CBAI 68, IRELAND 68, WALES 45 **** mariner1: 2♣ or 3♣ is a nice spot mdgraham: ok, 3♣ can cost, but it can also cost to keep silent. You pays your money and....(etc) ..p othered1: 3 games make here henryb: Edgar Kaplan used to say that it was partial swings that were the bulk of the gains for strong teams viren169: u will find out about 3 key cards and Q of trumps... what more do you need to know? idc: 500 mind you so no big deal..1♠ capercliff: 4♠ is not a bad game let alone sac steshome: I was wondering about the difference between 3♠ and 4♠ - didn’t consider pass capercliff: I was thinking 41s myself capercliff: ♠ jallerton: What’s your idea of a bad game, Cliff? idc: agree Sarah - it might look daring but much less dangerous than some of the protective bids they *have* been making idc: and a much bigger potential upside steshome: I see that Fiona gained 4 for passing the transfer on the previous board capercliff: well we can see all hands, after 1 the K has a good chance of being right capercliff: also 2-2 ♠ not unreasonable jallerton: but you need both and even then need to get a trick out of clubs vugraphzms: director called to table, dummy put hand down before n made bid © ¨ ¨ - 91 - © © capercliff: that reuires the Q with West capercliff: requires capercliff: or A♣ with E capercliff: but regardless, do you really want to © defend 4 ? jallerton: though NS should certainly want to be in 4♠ - if 4 goes off 4♠ may well idc: when you are World Champions (Yeah!) you can do stuff like that jcomyn: I would never pass as S NEVER diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 94, N-IRELAND 92, ENGLAND 79, CBAI 68, IRELAND 68, WALES 45 **** mariner1: S has to find 4 now jallerton: ...make..p jcomyn: juz like that petepunt : depend if they play 2 forcing i suspect jcomyn: so...? ralfwil: and this is the end I supporse mariner1: ♣ lead good as any capercliff: indeed Jeffery..2♠ pkl: Ouch again jcomyn: I mean all very polite - nobody wants to whack anyone jcomyn: yes thegarve: HMM PRESUMTUOUS capercliff : thoughtful lead but doesnt matter much here mariner1: and does nicely othered1: What’s 1N/ ♠? realy?..p othered1: relay? toobad: bish bash bosh!! toobad: biff bang wallop!! toobad: 4S might push them to slam jcomyn: might but I doubt it. What can W do? lestergold: well her pard made it weasy for her to find 4h rednaxela: Good lead. lestergold: two hearts a doubleton a bullet well enuf to bid4 othered1 : I’m told 1N is a game force. If it demands defined rebids, possible 31H would show that shape. Then 3 ♠ might be another relay...4♠ ralfwil: For me ♠K toobad: happy now John? ralfwil: She heard me even if I had my window closed! jcomyn: oh dear thats poor..p lestergold: now only has to make it!..p © © © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) ralfwil: But as the cards lie an easy 3nt..p idc: I was wondering - if North becomes declarer ¨ in 4♠, does West have 13 penalty cards?.. 2 jallerton: interesting TD call. Did the sight of ♠ Q10x in West stop North from saving in 4♠? capercliff: this doesnt play very well thegarve: always chance of a misdefence though jallerton: unless dec. takes a very good view in jcomyn: that S hand is HUGE mariner1: http://www.cbai.ie/ - Tournament Site othered1: Not sure what the auction meant, but contract is normal and good... A mdgraham: possibly 3 =clubs mariner1: http://www.cbai.ie/documents/LadyMilneTeamRoster.pdf Team Roster.. 3 lestergold: trump lead excellent diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNNG **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 90, N-IRELAND 88, ENGLAND 82, IRELAND 72, CBAI 72, WALES 42 **** idc: The only chance is if North forgets she isn’t playing v men and leans forward too much and exposes her hand.. 8 capercliff: as it happens a lead and ♠ shift is better steshome: England gaining 11 on the previous board when the Scots fail to beat 4 thegarve : T ♠ and then when playing a toward dummy duck the card from South viren169: Perhaps a little less slapping and more bidding is needed.....♠2 jcomyn: well I bid 2NT for a start as S toobad: nothing, but if E bids 5d capercliff: absolutely:)..♠4 mdgraham: little hiccup there..♠T jcomyn: sure why would you want to play in a 62H fit when you can play in a D partial petepunt: either way 3♠ makes so 4 1 off ok lestergold: this should go down now..♠Q rednaxela: Another small Diamond..... 7 jcomyn: but 4S does not and they wont defend 4H.. 5 diumraid: **** IN RUNNING LIVE LADY MILNE **** N-IRELAND 36, IRELAND 34, ENGLAND 30, CBAI 30, SCOTLAND 29, WALES 21 ***** vugraphzme: sry about that.. J vugraphzme: we have bad internet connection tihas: E got to show his exact distribution and aces during the auction viren169: I would be looking for 7 after pd’s 4 bid!.. K ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ © © ¨ diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNNG **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 90, N-IRELAND 88, ENGLAND 82, IRELAND 72, CBAI 72, WALES 42 **** jcomyn: 2S 2NT 3S 4S and thats that..♠K lestergold: yes maybe that dim play lestergold: it sworks of course viren169: Fit-Jumps are useful here..♠6 pkl: I can see 5 being down if N has e.g. Kx KQJxx KQJxx x, but still pass is to timid jcomyn: sometimes I despair for bridge viren169: followed by ace-asking... capercliff : then again now she would have known that they were not going to take 2♠ tricks on defence..♠3 jallerton: Yes. I think they are penalty cards. That makes 4♠ bid more attractive! thegarve: "We’re doomed"..♠A mariner1: NI making a small comeback on ROI so we are still close as you can see toobad: tis loola proof..♣3 mariner1: play going well..♣A..♣5 toobad: i wd prefer 2s - 4s..♣9..♠5..♠8 mariner1: 4 boards to score in BOTH matches,,,,, we are down to the wire!..♠J steshome: Is that a cue for me to say "stupid boy "?.. 2.. Q lestergold: in fact on the lead its only option.. 3 rednaxela: Not much to play for now other than the actual position. lestergold: kill poingt time © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © - 92 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) Board 14 NS: EW: o 3 x S c 3 x S © © -4 -4 this/total IMPs BTN 154 Djarum 162 800 800 14 4 ♠ A10 8 6 4 9 5 4 10 8 7 3 ♣K J 8 7 5 ♠K 5 4 3 2 N ♠Q 9 A Q10 5 2 W E AK J 9652 S ♣A Q 9 6 3 ♣10 4 ♠ J7 9 9 K J87643 7-8 Q43 9 ♣2 9 400 W: A HAITANI W X N: J BOJOH Open E: OCTAVIAN S: L GONTHA N E S p 3 p p p ¨K,7,5,4 ¨2,3,J,8 ª3,A,9,7 §T,2,A,5 #1 W:: #3 E:: #5 W:: #7 E:: © ª2,6,Q,J ¨A,T,6,Q ©9,A,3,ª4 ªK,8,§4,©4 #2 W:: #4 W:: #6 N:: #8 W:: vugraphzpv: son board herkese teˆ ekkˆ…rler vugraphzpv: 3. mac 18:00 de Likom-Mersin takˆ ‰mlarˆ‰ arasˆ‰nda canlˆ‰ yayinlanacak MolvaM: bu devrenin son eline geldik. vugraphzpv : son board herkese teˆ ekkˆ…r ederiz tez: teˆ ekkˆ…rler vugraphzpv: son board herkese ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…r ederim MolvaM: ortaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰zˆ‰n 2.cˆ…den aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ larˆ‰na gˆ…venemiyorsanˆ‰z drury de oynayabilirsiniz MolvaM: 3.cˆ…den vugraphzpv: gˆ…nˆ…n son boardu herkese teˆ ekkˆ…r ederim ovncylmz: bu bugun 2.ye karsimiza cikiyor vugraphzpv: iyi akˆ amlar dilerim herkese MolvaM: herkese teˆ ekkˆ…rler vugraphzpv: son board herkese ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ… rler vugraphzpv: 3. maˆ§ saat 15 30 da baˆ lˆ‰yor - 93 - vugraphzpv: son board herkese teˆ ekkˆ…rler vugraphzpv : bir sonraki maˆ§ 18 00 da baˆ layacak vugraphzpv: turnuva programˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz vugraphzpv: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=49:2009tuerkye-brc-ampyonalari-talyada-25-nsan-3mayis-2009&catid=50:2008-2009-sezonu& Itemid=99 vugraphzpv: gˆ…nˆ…n son boardˆ‰ herkese ˆ§ ok teˆ ekkˆ…r ederiz vugraphzpv : ma sonuˆ§larˆ‰ ve butler sˆ‰ ralamasˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz vugraphzpv: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=195: tuerkye-bayan-doertlue-sonuclari&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 alichengiz: 6-7 senedir gidip oynuyorum, yaptˆ ‰ˆ ˆ‰m hatalara ˆ aˆ rˆ‰m stolicnaya: A grubu ˆ§ok keyifli oluyor, ama B grubundayken insan gerˆ§ekten kendini ˆ§ok kˆ¶tˆ … hissediyor. Sˆ…rekli bir A grubuna ˆ§ˆ‰kma ˆ§abasˆ‰ vugraphzpv: son board herkese ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ… rler alichengiz: ve ˆ§ˆ‰kmak gittikˆ§e zorlaˆ ˆ‰yor vugraphzpv: maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰ ve btler sˆ‰ ralamasˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz vugraphzpv: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=195: tuerkye-bayan-doertlue-sonuclari&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 vugraphzpv: son board alichengiz: takˆ‰m maˆ§larˆ‰nda vugraphzpv: herkese teˆ ekkˆ…rler alichengiz: + lar 1 mp fark eder batarsanˆ‰z 12 gider vugraphzpv: maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰ ve butler sˆ‰ ralamasˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz vugraphzpv: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=195: tuerkye-bayan-doertlue-sonuclari&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 alichengiz : risk ile kazanˆ§ yakˆ‰n deˆ ilse empas Rus ruleti oluyor vugraphzpv: son board herkese yorumlarˆ‰ndan ve katkˆ‰larˆ‰ndan dolayˆ‰ teˆ ekkˆ…r ederim alichengiz: 2♣ karoya transferdi, ama gerisinibilmiyorum vugraphzpv: son board herkese ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ… rler ergur: tˆ k Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) alichengiz : diˆ er oda da 150 yazˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ , swing yok 2 sayˆ‰ Midyat’a vugraphzpv: son board herkese ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ… rler vbman: hakan koz yerine cl verse vugraphzpv: diˆ er maˆ§ saat 17 30 da alichengiz: ah ˆ u ˆ§in iˆ i a4tech klavyeler :) vugraphzpv: son board herkese ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ… rler alichengiz: Saˆ ol Kenan, kusursuzsun :) vugraphzpv: bu gˆ…nˆ…n son maˆ§ˆ‰ saat 21 00 da baˆ lˆ‰yor vugraphzpv: hangi takˆ‰mlar arasˆ‰nda olduˆ u belli deˆ il sonuˆ§lara gˆ¶re belli olacak hobakan: herkese ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…rler, baˆ ta bˆ… yˆ…k usta Kenan:) alichengiz: 6 Kˆ¶r nasˆ‰l batmˆ‰ˆ diye soranlara yanˆ‰t, ♠ Q ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ alichengiz: alˆ‰p ˆ§aktˆ‰rmˆ‰ˆ vugraphzpv: herkese ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…rler vugraphzpv: gˆ…nˆ…n son boardˆ‰ hobakan : teˆ ekkˆ…rler bˆ…yˆ…k ˆ…stad Kenan alichengiz: Kenan Mˆ…thiˆ sin, amerikalˆ‰lar her elde 3 undo yapˆ‰yor, undosuz turnuva bitireceksin :) MolvaM: likom takˆ‰mˆ‰ ˆ¶ne geˆ§ti vugraphzpv: son board herkese ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ… rler MolvaM: teˆ ekkˆ…r ediyoruz. 1 sonraki devre belli mi kenan? arigun: ♠ atak edilmeyince pasi ile olmus 5♣ galiba... MolvaM: saat 13te baˆ lˆ‰yor bir sonraki yayˆ‰ nˆ‰mˆ‰z MolvaM: ama hangi maˆ§ yayˆ‰nlanacak henˆ… z bilmiyoruz MolvaM: muhtemelen aˆ§ˆ‰k takˆ‰mlar serisinden yayˆ‰nlanacak vugraphzpv: hangi maˆ§ˆ‰n olacaˆ ˆ‰ belli deˆ il Murat abi vugraphzpv: 26. board atlayarak oynandˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in bu elden sonra 26 oynanacak alichengiz: 24 e dˆ…ˆ tˆ… fark 23 -7 gibi vugraphzpv: son boarda giriyoruz biraz sitresli ˆ ekilde vugraphzpv: herkese ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…r ederiz vugraphzpv: son maˆ§ saat 18 00 da baˆ layacak alichengiz: evet.. vugraphzpv: herkese ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…rler hobakan: iyi akˆ amlar tez: majorbogazici takimi benim calistirdigim © takim..bu macta onlarla gurur duydum..super oynadilar..p tez: bir sonraki maˆ§ Senyˆ¶r Milli ve Under26 arasˆ‰nda 15 35 de baˆ layacak ovncylmz: evet herkese tesekkurler:) vugraphzpv : son board herkese teˆ ekkˆ…r ederiz vugraphzpv: yarˆ‰n ki maˆ§lar 12.00 de baˆ layacak MolvaM: ok. merakla bekliyoruz :)( MolvaM: ˆ¶zellikle operatˆ¶rˆ…mˆ…z kenan a..3 © MolvaM: ve sevgili seyircilerimize MolvaM: bugˆ…nlˆ…k bu kadar ovncylmz: az onceki macta da genc takimimiz bir druryi atladi ve bir 4♠ gitti:) MolvaM: yarˆ‰n devam ergur: tˆ k iyi akˆ amlar herkese:) vugraphzpv: bir sonraki maˆ§ saati 13 00 .. hobakan: herkese gˆ…naydˆ‰n tˆ…naydˆ‰n nafiz1: en bˆ…yˆ…k teˆ ekkˆ…r sana Kenan, emeˆ ine saˆ lˆ‰k alichengiz: Herkese teˆ ekkˆ…rler, 17:30’de 3. maˆ§ var bugˆ…n iˆ§in, 21:00 de son maˆ§ alichengiz: movie var alt barda, ona tˆ‰klayˆ‰n ve other rooma tˆ‰klayˆ‰n vugraphzpv: :) arigun: ozellikle emine :)..p ovncylmz: herkese tesekkurler ii aksamlar:) alichengiz: her ˆ…n kaˆ§ takˆ‰mˆ‰n ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰ p dˆ…ˆ eceˆ i, yˆ¶netimce sabahleyin ilan ediliyor, sanˆ‰rˆ‰m bugˆ…n 6 dˆ…ˆ ecek 3 ˆ§ˆ‰kacak alichengiz: iyi akˆ amlar yarˆ‰n saat 12’de gˆ¶rˆ …ˆ mek ˆ…zere tez: Ozkan Aglamaz vugraf operatorumuz..canli masada oynayan oyuncularin tum eylemlerini bize iletiyor alichengiz: ve diˆ er masada Kubaˆ§ nt aˆ§ˆ‰nca 3nt kolayca olmuˆ , 10 IMP ˆ zmir takˆ‰mˆ‰na MolvaM: bu 3 kˆ¶r splinter mi acaba ovncylmz: 30imp var gercekten bricin ne kadar 12ellik bir oyun oldugunu gosterdi bize:)..p alichengiz: Teˆ ekkˆ…rler Kenan, harika bir iˆ yaptˆ‰n yine :) alichengiz: Bitirirken, VG Operatˆ¶rˆ… Kenan’ˆ ‰ unutmayalˆ‰m, genˆ§ arkadaˆ ˆ‰mˆ‰z bu iˆ i gˆ¶nˆ…llˆ… olarak yaptˆ‰, Mˆ…thiˆ ti! tez: irem ozbay bu sene katildi onlara..ilk defa oynuyorlar emine ile..p ovncylmz: var=fark* olucakti ovncylmz: drury oynamiyorlar mi ki:) MolvaM: yarˆ‰n ilk maˆ§ 1030 da ¨ - 94 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) hobakan: kˆ¶rler ataktan alˆ‰nˆ‰rsa karo kararˆ MolvaM: bir sonraki devre yaklaˆ ˆ‰k 1300- ‰ var 1315 arasˆ‰ aˆ§ˆ‰k seriden maˆ§ ile gravity: Gˆ…ney gˆ…zel atak etmiˆ . ( hem ismi hem yˆ¶nˆ… ) muhtemelen 10 imp gelicek u-26 ya. nafiz: paˆ am olmamasˆ‰ndan iyidir :) fahir: 6 kˆ¶r karo vale on dˆ…ˆ tˆ…ˆ ˆ… iˆ§in sorunsuz gibi MolvaM: bu maˆ§ˆ‰n ve bu gˆ…nˆ…n son elini izliyoruz alichengiz: yarˆ‰n 6 A grubundan 2 de B den gelecek 8 takˆ‰m perˆ embe gˆ…nˆ… final oynarken alichengiz: 4♠ = vbman: 5 alichengiz: 2 veriyor +1 arigun: evet son durak.. tez : likom takimini tebrik ediyoruz..cok iyi oynadilar.. 4 vugraphzpv: gˆ…nˆ…n son boardˆ‰ herkese teˆ ekkˆ…r ederim vugraphzpv: iyi akˆ amlar... tez: iyi aksamlar..maclar yarin devam ediyor..bugunun son yayini bu Antalyadan MolvaM: 3nt batacak gibi MolvaM: :) MolvaM: turnuvanˆ‰n favorilerinden olan sayˆ‰ lkan takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰ yenen maksoy deniz takˆ‰ mˆ‰nˆ‰ da tebrik fahir: ancak kozu 3 tur oynamamasˆ‰ lazˆ‰m tez: 3nt 4♠ ve 5 da sorun yok vugraphzpv: :) kabexnuf: paˆ am skorlarˆ‰ ne zaman gorecegiz diger maclarˆ‰n?..♠2 ovncylmz: muhammet 4sp desin artik:) ergur: kenan transfer olabilir danimarkalˆ‰lar cok begenmiˆ :) vugraphzpv : yarˆ‰n ki maˆ§larˆ‰n saatler bayanlarˆ‰n:10 30 da aˆ§ˆ‰k takˆ‰mlarˆ‰n ise:13 30 da ..♠6 hobakan: sabah seansˆ‰ bu kadar oldu.. tekrar seyircilerimizden ˆ¶zˆ…r diliyoruz, ancak 13:00 seansˆ‰nda ˆ§ok bˆ…yˆ…k sˆ…rprizler bizi bekliyor olacak.:) MolvaM: ve son elde biraz karˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰klˆ‰k ˆ§ˆ ‰ktˆ‰ masada MolvaM: seyirciler aˆ§ˆ‰sˆ‰ndan iyi tabii alichengiz: salvonun eliyle aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰nca ˆ§ok yˆ…kselebilirler hobakan : ˆ zgˆ…l de maxiumum araya giriˆ konturu tercih etmiˆ hobakan: aynˆ‰ oldu alichengiz: veya closed room’atˆ‰klayˆ‰n, nasˆ ‰l oynandˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ gˆ¶rmek iˆ§inde, next butonuna tˆ‰klayˆ‰n hobakan: tabi bi de 4 sp yi deklare etmek lazˆ‰ m alichengiz : Tˆ…rkˆ§e kullanˆ‰yorsanˆ‰z, movie, aˆ§ˆ‰k oda, sonraki el MolvaM: herhalde alichengiz: kadˆ‰nlarˆ‰mˆ‰zˆ‰n maˆ§ˆ‰nˆ ‰n skorunu bilenler bana yazsˆ‰n lˆ…tfen, baˆ lantˆ‰ kopunca ekrandan uˆ§tu, yeniden soruluyor MolvaM: ˆ ampiyon Kolbastˆ‰: Nevzat Aydoˆ du - Fikret Aydoˆ du - Haldun Vahaboˆ lu - Murat Anter MolvaM: tebrikler alichengiz: Tebrikler Kolbastˆ‰, siz ˆ§ok yaˆ ayˆ ‰n :) ogoksel: Majˆ¶r takˆ‰mˆ‰na tebrikler.. K ovncylmz: hmm 3c/3d tarzi kontratlar hastanelik edilebilirdi MolvaM: gˆ…naydˆ‰n geˆ§ mi kaldˆ‰m :) MolvaM: ptesi sabahˆ‰ iˆ e gidenler iˆ§in uyanma forsatˆ‰ MolvaM : bu vugraflarˆ‰n saˆ lanmasˆ‰nda buyuk gayret gˆ¶steren TBF’ye MolvaM : ve bˆ…tˆ…n koordinasyonu yapan ROLAND WALD’a ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…rler MolvaM: ve tabii ki BBO’ya vugraphzpv: maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰ ve butler sˆ‰ ralamasˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz vugraphzpv: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=195: tuerkye-bayan-doertlue-sonuclari&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99 tez: tesekkurler herkese MolvaM: dilek biraz daha kurcalayacak galiba arigun: dilek pass diyebilirse cok iyi yerdeler alichengiz: Kenan teklif gelmedi mi amerikalˆ‰ lardan, Spingold’ta harika iˆ yaparsˆ‰n vugraphzpv: Ege 59 Likom 75 alichengiz: ˆ zkan ˆ§ok iyi bir iˆ baˆ ardˆ‰, teˆ ekkˆ…rler ˆ zkan.. 7 begse: 4c 4nt iyideklare olur MolvaM: doˆ ru karar MolvaM: bize bu maˆ§ˆ‰ aktaran vugraf operatˆ¶ rˆ…mˆ…z kenan’a teˆ ekkˆ…r ederiz.. 5 MolvaM: pazar sabahˆ‰ bizlere katˆ‰lan seyircilerimize de teˆ ekkˆ…r vugraphzpv: son board herkese ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…r ederim ¨ ¨ ¨ - 95 - © ¨ ¨ ¨ Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) alichengiz: Bu yayˆ‰nda emeˆ i geˆ§en herkese ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…rler, Yeni Baˆ kanˆ‰mˆ‰z Fahir ˆ zˆ…mcˆ…, bu organizasyon iˆ§in ˆ§ok ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰ ve harika bir turnuva oluyor arigun : belis’in elinden ♠ atak cok mumlun gorunmuyor vugraphzpv: pik asˆ‰nˆ‰ tutuyor cengiz abi MolvaM: ama 3nt deklaresi mine de kˆ¶r markalar ˆ‰ gˆ¶steriyor arigun : Q uygun oldugu mecburi youn empasi MolvaM: tˆ…rkiye 2. ve 3. sˆ… diˆ er maˆ§ sonuˆ §larˆ‰na baˆ lˆ‰ MolvaM: dolayˆ‰sˆ‰ ile ˆ u an sˆ¶yleyeniyoruz MolvaM: ˆ nci Ayakkabˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰ bu elde son dakika golˆ… atabilir..♠Q ergur: -1 olur ovncylmz: hmm..♠J ergur: ˆ imdi 9 olabilir MolvaM: nuri cengiz in kontr’unu pek sevmedim ben fahir: pik ataˆ ˆ‰na 9 lˆ¶ve alˆ‰nabiliyor doˆ udan alichengiz: 3nt de durmak kolay deˆ il aˆ§ˆ‰l ˆ‰nca vugraphzpv: sonraki maˆ§ saat 15 00 da baˆ lˆ‰ yor relrikas: 4♣ gelicek relrikas: 4NT pas pas olur umarˆ‰m alichengiz: Aˆ§ˆ‰k takˆ‰mlarda bu maˆ§lardan ˆ¶nce son durumu verelim ve 18 de gˆ¶rˆ…ˆ elim vugraphzpv: 2. tur sonuˆ§larˆ‰ydˆ‰ bunlar alichengiz: KOLBASTˆ 250 alichengiz: Noname1 242 alichengiz: PEKˆ EN 239 alichengiz: MATRIX 238 alichengiz: SENYˆ R Mˆ LLˆ 237 alichengiz: Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran 226 alichengiz: diˆ er takˆ‰mlar Perˆ embe gˆ…nˆ… Borad A Match oynayacaklar veya dinlenecekler.. 2 vbman: 11 el var MolvaM: dolayˆ‰sˆ‰ ile kˆ¶r ˆ§ˆ‰kmayabilir arigun: saka yapiyordur alichengiz: Mˆ DYAT BELEDˆ YESˆ 226 vugraphzpv: turnuva programˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yaralanabilirsiniz.. 3 vugraphzpv: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=49:2009tuerkye-brc-ampyonalari-talyada-25-nsan-3mayis-2009&catid=50:2008-2009-sezonu& Itemid=99 © © ¨ ¨ ¨ tez: bundan sonraki mac 14 35 saniyorum alichengiz: saˆ ol Kenan ergur: -1 olur relrikas: salvo nun 3. aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ az puanla tedbir aldi nafiz abim alichengiz: nafiz bey bizi yanˆ‰ltˆ‰yor bugˆ… n :) hobakan: muhtemel kˆ¶r onˆ¶rleri gˆ¶zˆ…kecek alichengiz: 3 pas dedi ama ortaˆ ˆ‰ndaki iyi eli duyunca zonu ilan etti hobakan: karo kararˆ‰ iˆ§in ˆ¶nemli MolvaM: ama kˆ‰sa bir sˆ…re sonra TBF web sitesinde yayˆ‰nlanacaktˆ‰r eminim MolvaM: ama belki de zon kaˆ§ˆ‰rma endiˆ esi ile yaptˆ‰.. J tez: tesekkurler iyi gunler..federasyonumuza ve bbo ya tesekkur relrikas: wd MolvaM: muhtemelen bu maˆ§larla ilgili detaylˆ ‰ bilgi tbf sitesinde yayˆ‰nlanacak.. 8 ergur: bazen oyuna mudahalede zaralˆ‰ olabiliyor nasˆ‰l oynayacak bakalˆ‰m alichengiz: ♣ pasˆ‰ geˆ§erken koz bozuk alichengiz: 2 pik az bu elle MolvaM: tebrikler belis alichengiz: ZABUNOˆ LU 225 alichengiz: koz iyi daˆ ˆ‰lsa 6 kˆ¶r mˆ…mkˆ… n.. A alichengiz: 4 pikte sorun yok alichengiz: bu set epey trajediye gebe board vard ˆ‰ ergur: cl dama ˆ§ekebilir.. T MolvaM: deklkaran’ˆ‰n trefl pasˆ‰ denemekten baˆ ka ˆ ansˆ‰ yok. o da tutmuyor.. 6 MolvaM : merih tokcan dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nerek ˆ nci Ayakkabˆ‰ taraftarlarˆ‰nˆ‰ ˆ§ˆ‰ldˆ‰rma eˆ i ˆ ine baˆ arˆ‰ ile getirdi ˆ u an MolvaM: ˆ§ˆ…nkˆ… karo as ˆ§ekilmezse oyun olacak muhtemelen begse: konturda ˆ§ok ˆ aˆ ˆ‰rtˆ‰cˆ‰ MolvaM: hmmm.. Q MolvaM: yarˆ‰n daha ˆ§ok bilgimiz olur eminim alichengiz: BBO’nun maˆ§larˆ‰n yayˆ‰nlanmas ˆ‰ndaki desteˆ i ise zaten ˆ§ok bˆ…yˆ…k, Teˆ ekkˆ…rler TBF ve BBO ergur: herkese iyi akˆ amlar :) alichengiz: amerikalˆ‰lar alsˆ‰n kenan’ˆ‰ zira, gereksiniyorlar vugraphzpv: yarˆ‰n finaller saat 10 30 da baˆ layacak hobakan: ˆ ampiyonadan canlˆ‰ baˆ lantˆ‰lar RadyoSpor’da...15:15 ve 18:30 © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 96 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) tweety1: ˆ rgˆ…p ergur: ˆ imdi zorunlu oldu..♠3 fahir: berabere biten 2. maˆ§ aralarˆ‰nda :) arigun: cikti vallahi bravo vugraphzpv: the next game at 13.oo..♠A tweety1: selam:) MolvaM: sˆ…per bir atak MolvaM: Son devreye girerken aˆ§ˆ‰k takˆ‰ mlarda durum: 1-Kolbastˆ‰ 273; 2-Pekˆ en 255; 3-Matrix 253; 4-Senyˆ¶rler 251; 5-Noname 251; 6-Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran 246; 7-Midyat 240; 8-Zabuno ˆ lu 218 MolvaM: antalyadaki vugraf operatˆ¶rˆ…mˆ…ze.. ♠9 MolvaM: ve seyircilerimize ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…rler MolvaM: yarˆ‰n yine bekleriz MolvaM: maˆ§ saatleri iˆ§in tbf sayfasˆ‰na veya bbo vugraf program sayfasˆ‰na bakabilirsiniz vugraphzpv: turnuva programˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz vugraphzpv: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=49:2009tuerkye-brc-ampyonalari-talyada-25-nsan-3mayis-2009&catid=50:2008-2009-sezonu& Itemid=99 ergur: bu atagˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nmedim alichengiz: alˆ‰rsa = bˆ‰rakˆ‰rsa +1 relrikas: ikisini de 1 imp almis olacagiz relrikas: VP de berabere alichengiz: ♠ K relrikas: ama imp de hepsini aldˆ‰k :) vugraphzpv: tref partajmˆ‰ diye sordu =diye claim etti MolvaM: ˆ imdi eˆ er deklaran durumu doˆ ru okursa oyun olabilir..♠7 alichengiz: 6332 elle 2♠ denilebilir, 643 ile 3♠ daha iyiydi alichengiz: kanlˆ‰ bir so devre alichengiz: Teˆ ekkˆ…rler Herkese :) iyi gˆ…nler alichengiz: Teˆ ekkˆ…rler Kenan, ii iˆ :) fahir: bir sonraki maˆ§ 15:00 da, gˆ¶rˆ…ˆ mek ˆ …zere alichengiz: Hoˆ ˆ§akalˆ‰n ergur: tˆ k kenan:) vugraphzpv: teˆ ekkˆ…rler herkese MolvaM: karodan ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰p treflden yatˆ‰rma oyunu ile.. 9.. A ovncylmz: 4sp denmesi gereken bir eldi bence alichengiz: Pekˆ en karara yer bˆ‰rakmadˆ‰.. 3 hobakan: CEVAP:sonraki maˆ§ ˆ imdiden belli deˆ il. bu maˆ§ˆ‰n sonuˆ§larˆ‰na gˆ¶re karar © © - 97 - © veriliyor...♠4 MolvaM: yarˆ‰n ilk maˆ§ saat 12de alichengiz: iyi akˆ amlar herkese hobakan: akˆ am 21:00 de gˆ¶rˆ…ˆ mek ˆ…zere alichengiz: hoˆ ˆ§akalˆ‰n alichengiz: BBO bˆ…yˆ…k iˆ yapˆ‰yor :) vugraphzpv : 21 00 da gˆ¶rˆ…ˆ mek ˆ…zere herkese teˆ ekkˆ…rler alichengiz: 15-15 maˆ§ skoru MolvaM: ama hala zor oyun..♣T begse: 4c 4nt daha uygun olurdu vugraphzpv: teˆ ekkˆ…rler herkese tekrar MolvaM: saat 13te bekleriz arigun: tek e karsi mine 3nt idiyince konsantre puanlari insallah ♠K onda degildir fire olmaz diye dusundu belki vugraphzpv: bir dahaki yayˆ‰n 13 00 da baˆ layacak arigun: tesekkurler kenan arigun: sayin izleyicilerimize ve degerli yorumcularimiza da cok tesekkurler MolvaM: bu masa bitti aˆ§ˆ‰k odaya geˆ§ebiliriz vugraphzpv: kapatˆ‰yorum masayˆ‰ MolvaM: 3 tur pik..♣2..♣A MolvaM: ve karar anˆ‰ ovncylmz: muhammet bir onor falan gormemis olabilir mi? MolvaM: diˆ er maˆ§ skorlarˆ‰nˆ‰ gˆ¶rebileceˆ imiz gˆ…nler elbet gelecektir. sabˆ‰rlˆ‰ olalˆ‰ m :) MolvaM : web sayfasˆ‰ bakma ˆ¶zˆ…rlˆ… sevgili seyircilerimiz iˆ§in bir hizmetimizdi bu :) alichengiz: hoˆ , koz iyi olsa ♣ pasˆ‰na gerek kalmayacak, koz durumunu tahmin edebilse hala yapabilirdi hobakan: istanbul:105.7....izmir:102.5 :) ergur: danimarkadan Roland yayˆ‰nˆ‰ndan ˆ§ ok etkilenmiˆ :) MolvaM: herkese iyi akˆ amlar. yarˆ‰n Gˆ…ven Erkaya turkiye 2liye katˆ‰lacaklara da baˆ arˆ‰ lar alichengiz: masadan skorlar bir alet yardˆ‰mˆ‰ yla giriliyor, direk bilgisayara gidiyor, ama oyuncular skorlarˆ‰nˆ‰ bilmiyorlar alichengiz: Ciao alichengiz: iyiakˆ amlar, Hoˆ ˆ§akalˆ‰n :) vugraphzpv: iyi akˆ amlar herkese vugraphzpv: ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…rler gravity: Drury gibi bi konavsiyon oynuyorlar bildigim kadariyla.Batinin neden drury yapmadigini anlayamadim..♣5 vugraphzpv: teˆ ekkˆ…rler herkese © © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) ovncylmz: drury oynuyorlar ovncylmz: son el psikolojisi ovncylmz: irfanin hali de onemli masada gravity : KQ yapisik,A var,kozda J10.. bu el normal bi 4-3-3-3 el diil :) alichengiz: kˆ¶rˆ… ˆ§akˆ‰p pikleri alacak ve el aˆ§acak alichengiz: yan rengi saˆ lamadan koz ˆ§ekmedi hobakan: slm alichengiz: 4-5 sayˆ‰lˆ‰k ufak bir swing daha Kolbastˆ‰ iˆ§in vugraphzpv: teˆ ekkˆ…rler herkese..♠K vugraphzpv: tekrar gˆ¶rˆ…ˆ mek dileˆ iyle alichengiz: 1 bir ♣ veriyormuˆ yazˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ma inat :) alichengiz: hoˆ ˆ§akalˆ‰n :) vugraphzpv: herkese tekrar teˆ ekkˆ…rler tez: hersey kotu..♠8..♣4 tez: batacak © Board 14 NS: EW: o 3 x S c 3 x S © © -4 -4 this/total IMPs Djarum 162 BTN 154 800 800 14 4 ♠ A10 8 6 4 9 5 4 10 8 7 3 ♣K J 8 7 5 ♠K 5 4 3 2 N ♠Q 9 A Q10 5 2 W E AK J 9652 S ♣A Q 9 6 3 ♣10 4 ♠ J7 9 9 K J87643 7-8 Q43 9 ♣2 9 400 W: Piskanto W X ¨ ª § #1 W:: A,7,6,4 #3 E:: 9,7,3,T #5 S:: 2,A,5,4 N: Anthony S Closed S: Kamto N E p p p E: Franky K S 3 p © ª ª © ª ª § © #2 W:: 2,6,Q,J #4 N:: A, 5,6, 4 #6 W:: K,8, T, 3 mdgraham: Almost the end now, so time for a few words of thanks: to our excellent operator Raul Laasner; to Piret Raudsepp, who organised this tournament; and to the Estonian Bridge ..... 4 mdgraham : Federation for enabling BBO to provide this broadcast. capercliff: so 4♠ would have been even better capercliff: this is going to go right to the wire it seems idc: At the other table on Board 27, East either has to beat 4 , or bid 4♠ to begin with jcomyn: Thats why I bid 4D make sure p keeps awake jcomyn: 4H but will EW defend toobad: game missed on 10 in the open room so another 10 to NI vugraphzms: :) thegarve: bash partner’s winners mariner1: same contract in Open Room on 13 mariner1: 3N NS makes played in S © © - 98 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNNG **** capercliff: 2♠ was makeable, even on the good LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 90, N-IRELAND 89, ENGLAND 82, CBAI 72, IRELAND 71, WALES 42 **** lestergold: that would have added insult toinjury lestergold: or further injury to injury mariner1: 4♠ might make on the Moysian here rednaxela: 2 in open room so game swing for Scotland coming. thegarve: no 4♠ from East on board27 - must be punchdrunk..p jcomyn: and I keep going no matter what she answers jcomyn: 1S for me ralfwil: with 18 to 10 HP!! jcomyn: 2S end thegarve: still it went off mariner1: the ♣ break forces the correct ♠ play though to bring it in mariner1: not that they should be in 4♠ lestergold: on trump leads its dire mariner1: yes that is the "might" part :) mdgraham: Also thanks to Henry Bethe and Ed Shapiro (USA), and Aivar Tihane (Estonia) for commentary. I am Mike Graham (England). Also thanks to all spectators for some useful and perceptive .....3 .. mdgraham: comments. jcomyn: s determined to compete jcomyn: c contract jcomyn: or maybe 3NT- something or other ralfwil: looks like 3nt is makeable, but no way to reach it toobad: NI made 2N up 1 on board 28 for a gain of 10 and 1N up one on 27 for a gain of 5 jcomyn: N will bid D and then S has no option capercliff: weak nt N/S steshome : I think they had a suit preference misunderstanding. Costly...p jcomyn: nothing like good neighbours to help out santyclz: Not surprisingly the ♣ duck on bd 10 cost 12 imps. thegarve: forget 3NT capercliff: the 31c bid worked on brd 12, England were aloowed to play in 2♠..p idc: I agree with the denomination, perhpas not the level of North’s bid capercliff: ♣ diumraid: ****** In Running Scores ******* LIVE from LIMERICK ********- N-Ireland 20, CBAI 17, ENGLAND 16, SCOTLAND 14, IRELAND 13, WALES 10 defence we saw here idc: The ♠2 discard - expect you have it right Sarah viren169: Good pass by Kelly ralfwil: yes - no option now but 3nt santyclz: Still, I agreed with the 1 and 1♠ bids. thegarve: you should open 1H anyway viren169: Some would inv with 8 and 5-card suit.....p diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 78, SCOTLAND 68, IRELAND 62, ENGLAND 59, CBAI 53, WALES 36 **** jcomyn: include me.. A ralfwil: ???? jcomyn: where to now - rudderless at this stage mariner1: well come to think of it the 9♠ in E becomes unassailable so 3N has issues lestergold: well this is a long distance too far rednaxela: I am told that in the event of two or more teams scoring the same number of VPs they shall share the trophy. capercliff: yes 4♠ looks clear after 2♠, but im not sure im a fan of the 2♠ to start with.. 7 pkl: ... and with a heart lead there’s eight tricks. At least ;-) mariner1: 4 should be off here best defense lestergold: east has not the slightest vestige of aq 4h bid mdgraham: looks like 2NT=transfer to diamonds. .. 6 idc: What do I know? 3♣ seems to have worked out well jallerton: East was not anticipating that pass jallerton: West’s pass is perhaps a little pessimistic could still have game on with AAKK and 3-card support idc: I might bid 3♠ - or do you prefer 1♠ Cliff? thegarve: that from a man who In the last set of the Camrose, Cliff had the pleasure of bidding on all 16 boards- frequently with zip capercliff: 1♠ capercliff: maybe only 15 Martin capercliff: this contract looks safe, but we have seen 1 go down earlier jcomyn: s opens on a 9-count, E passes with 10 hmm jcomyn: ouch stop please ralfwil: soon will the reds appear jcomyn: surely © ©¨ - 99 - ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) toobad: on that last board 29 the CBAI are in 3c EW diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 78, SCOTLAND 68, IRELAND 62, ENGLAND 59, CBAI 53, WALES 36 **** capercliff: only way to make 3N is to take all 5♣ tricks mariner1: however if NS can find ♠ they might score an imp or 2 mariner1: NS in Open Room I mean lestergold: you mean cashing their winners i assume by best defence.. 4 petepunt: 4 ood spot but 3n likely to bid..♠2 ralfwil: And I´·m talking about flat biards.... bah.. mariner1: this is a tough spot with the assumed lead vugraphzme: this is the last board..♠6 mdgraham: 3♣ can be used to show bad diamond support, and 3 shows ok diamonds mdgraham: can use the same over 2♠ if this is a transfer to clubs capercliff: would be quite a view to cash a top ♣ and then take a finesse mariner1: sure that works :) lestergold: 4h bid what do u guys think? rednaxela: No where near. lestergold: off scale id say mariner1: not my call either rednaxela: Scotland now 14 up. lestergold: and partner is very good for her raise assuming that she has another ay of showing a good raise lestergold: as it were rednaxela: NI one down to ROI. jcomyn: not now..♠Q petepunt: wd capercliff: but I cant se any other way to make it jcomyn: well if you dig a big hole you will fall into it yourself..♠J toobad: Confucius?? diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING from LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 63, SCOTLAND 51, IRELAND 46, ENGLAND 46, CBAI 36, WALES 27 ***** mariner1: well there is always hope for a defensive error though that is hard to see..♠9 diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 94, N-IRELAND 91, ENGLAND 78, IRELAND 69, CBAI 68, WALES 46 **** diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** © ¨ ¨ ¨ LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 94, N-IRELAND 91, ENGLAND 78, IRELAND 69, CBAI 68, WALES 46 **** capercliff: will get the ♣ wrong I suspect..♠7 diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNNG **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 90, N-IRELAND 89, ENGLAND 84, CBAI 72, IRELAND 71, WALES 40 **** jallerton: they play 5-card majors, safer to raise ♠..♠3..♠T..♠A diumraid: **** LIVE LADY MILNE SCORES **** IN RUNNING **** SCOTLAND 33, CBAI 33, IRELAND 33, N-IRELAND 32, ENGLAND 27, WALES 22 capercliff: 4♠ would have a bit of work to do.. 5 petepunt: lose 1♠ and 2 or 2♠ and 1 ralfwil: boards... I have to change keyboard to a one with better spelling...... 6..♠4 diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 94, N-IRELAND 91, ENGLAND 78, IRELAND 69, CBAI 68, WALES 46 ****..♣2 capercliff: Sheila MacDonald is a very good card player, but noone could take this view mariner1: I think that 1 VP will be 2 or 3 soon.. ♣A viren169: run of the will make life uncomfortable for North..♣5..♣4 capercliff: the director would be called lestergold: what? jallerton: I would lead K out of hand..♠K..♠8 jcomyn: ypu are being very coy John about this sort of bridge..♣T.. 3 steshome: I’m sure Cath won’t go down in this mariner1: yes to congratulate them on a great play :) © © © © ¨ © ¨ - 100 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) Board NS: EW: o 1♠ c 3♠ 15 E E 4 4 this/total IMPs BTN 154 Djarum 162 170 170 15 4 ♠Q 7 6 3 2 973 3 2 QJ 4 ♣AK 8 2 ♠2 N ♠ AK 9 8 5 4 K J5 A82 W E A10 9 7 K64 S ♣10 9 7 4 3 ♣Q ♠ J10 9 11 Q10 6 4 10 8532 11 ♣J65 9 450 W: A HAITANI W p p N: J BOJOH Open E: OCTAVIAN S: L GONTHA N E S p 1♣ 1♠ p p §5,3,K,Q ¨3,7,J,K ªK,J,§7,ª6 ©3,2,T,J #1 S:: #3 S:: #5 E:: #7 N:: § ¨ § ª ª © § ª #2 N:: 2, 4, J,4 #4 E:: A,T,2,3 #6 E:: 9, 6, 9, Q Board NS: EW: o 1♠ c 3♠ 15 E E this/total IMPs Djarum 162 BTN 154 170 170 4 4 15 4 ♠Q 7 6 3 2 973 3 2 QJ 4 ♣AK 8 2 ♠2 N ♠ AK 9 8 5 4 K J5 A82 W E A10 9 7 K64 S ♣10 9 7 4 3 ♣Q ♠ J10 9 11 Q10 6 4 10 8532 11 ♣J65 9 450 W N: Anthony S Closed S: Kamto N E p X 2N p 1N 2 p p W: Piskanto © X 2♠ 3♠ ©6,5,9,A ªK,J,§3,ª6 ¨Q,K,2,7 §A,Q,6,9 ¨6,3,A,J #2 E:: #4 E:: #6 E:: #8 N:: #1 S:: #3 E:: #5 N:: #7 N:: #9 E:: E: Franky K S p 2 p p ¨ ªA,T,2,3 ª9,©4,§4,ªQ ª4,§5,7,ª7 §2,ª5,§J,T mdgraham : Hello all and welcome back to Estonia for a last-round match from the roundrobin..p..p..1♣..1♠..p..p..p..♣5..♣3..♣K..♣Q.. ♣2.. 4..♣J..♣4.. 3.. 7.. J.. K..♠A..♠T.. ♠2..♠3..♠K..♠J..♣7..♠6..♠9.. 6..♣9..♠Q.. 3.. 2.. T.. J capercliff: squeeze for 12 tricks here? idc: I watched N Ireland bid this at the start of the session jallerton: 6NT can be made on a strip squeeze here idc: Caira Burns did indeed make 6NT on a ♣ lead by that method jallerton: 6♣ is better but hard to reach I suspect steshome: And on other lines. Mind you 6♣ is easier idc: not sure it was best % line but can’t argue ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © © - 101 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) with success steshome: Oh well. pkl: 4 anyone? viren169: Pender may make it difficult for North viren169: but may get caught in the process! jcomyn: Is that all Ralf bah jcomyn: if 6D had made NI would be in 3-figures this half alone mariner1: in Open Room the opening lead was the 10♠ capercliff: still not enough tricks? mariner1: this is the penultimate board of the session............ mariner1: two boards to play here rednaxela: NI are about to record a game swing in, making it all very, very tight. lestergold: well aldies and gentleman i have to sadly bid you farewell for now as family is calling me for evening meal mariner1: NI found the 5♣ on 28 vs 4♠ other way so................... rednaxela: Bye, Mike. mariner1: bye Mike lestergold: and ive done a lot of commenating this weekend diumraid: **** 3 boards to GO **** LIVE IN RUNNNG **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK *** * SCOTLAND 91, N-IRELAND 89, ENGLAND 84, CBAI 71, IRELAND 71, WALES 40 **** mariner1: 4♠ seems simple here,,,,,,, lestergold: bye for now Rob we must resolve that interesting debate speak later bye for now mariner1: we are in a close and possibly tied ASSUMING NI makes the 5♣ on 28 henryb: Hi Mike..p vugraphzme: This is the final round. So far the standings are: Monte Carlo (356), Roheline Lammas (343), Druva (342,5), Eksprompt (338), Rakvere (313), Derpt (249), Otepˆ⁄ˆ⁄ (222), Pˆ⁄rnu BK3 .....p vugraphzme: (201). mdgraham: Your commentators for this match are Henry Bethe and Ed Shapiro (USA). I am Mike Graham (England). idc: My theory: if you are gong to bother looking for a 4-4 ♠ fit with the North hand steshome: Still up though ... viren169: I think 3♣ is enough with that hand... capercliff: weak NT might be a success on this deal..1N jcomyn: danger of bidding a game they might not bid otherwise © rednaxela: Scotland stayed low on 30 to gain 5 more imps. capercliff: they are going to 6.. idc : and most would, how can it not be even better to look for a ♣ fit too? viren169: too many doubletons for me... viren169: Now is that values or take-out? jcomyn: now 3NT jcomyn: what can she be thinking about jcomyn: good job the old minus is gone santyclz: 4♠ certainly has play here. Needs help from the opps or very good guess in ♣s. diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 76, SCOTLAND 71, ENGLAND 61, IRELAND 59, CBAI 58, WALES 31 **** capercliff: 4♠ has play here mariner1: next session will be after board 16 and a short break mariner1: NI indeed made 5♣ mariner1: NI gained 10 though it is down to the nail biting mdgraham: Our operaor is Raul Laasner (Estonia). ..2 othered1: Hi, everyone!.. vugraphzme: welcome everyone henryb: 3♠ vul vs not is braver than I would be mdgraham: South knew what to expect, though mariner1: hard to see 4♠ now diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 94, N-IRELAND 91, ENGLAND 78, IRELAND 69, CBAI 68, WALES 46 **** capercliff: 3N from S is never getting a ♣ lead..2 ¨ ¨ ¨ © diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 76, SCOTLAND 71, ENGLAND 61, IRELAND 59, CBAI 58, WALES 31 **** thegarve: so its down to Scotland and NI in the last matches jallerton: well done..2♠ capercliff: 6♣ is a fine bid steshome: I don’t know why 6♣ is difficult to reach capercliff: now just to make it jallerton: 2NT 3-card raise again jcomyn: nice game EW thegarve: there’s tension and excitement here...... jallerton: 12 imps coming to Scotland..p viren169: looks like take-out jcomyn: missed abroad as well - 102 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) capercliff : and 41s requires declarer to get everything right..2N capercliff: ♠ viren169: and West survives to tell the tale... ralfwil: Yes I critisize my opinion about the ´· boards - flat - NO jcomyn: we are seeing Republic ladies bridge being buried in the cruellest fashion due entirely to appalling bridge. I have to say that and the ladies can scream if they like mariner1: 4 is beatable too........ though not automatic othered1: West neatly (and rightly) avoided a 2suited overcall...p jallerton: that looks like the best lead thegarve: can’t be 4th highest from honour capercliff: I suspect this will drift 1 off steshome: Yes it’s a good lead. capercliff : hoping my usual predictions are wrong of course:) santyclz: Not exactly what e hand in mind. diumraid: Last Matches start in 1 hourr. IRELAND v N-IRELAND, WALES V ENGLAND, CBAI v SCOTLAND capercliff: good lead mariner1: 3N makes but I want to be in safer 4♠ thegarve: so if rising has chances..3♠ petepunt: ineresting play hand petepunt: need to play q so that.....p toobad: be fair John, our girls have performed well!! mariner1: on 29 in NI/ROI match both stopped in partial so no imps there normally rednaxela: Every overtrick is vital at this stage. diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 94, N-IRELAND 91, ENGLAND 78, IRELAND 69, CBAI 68, WALES 46 ****..p steshome: How did England miss this in the open room? ..p santyclz : For maximum n needs to lead a ♣ before the a is knocked out... 6 mariner1: yes was we could see some here mariner1: and we mariner1: too excited to type :) jcomyn: ok folks last haned coming up. Thanks once again to Paul Porteus and the CBAI for arranging this event. Eamonn Galligan in gizmo and my co-commentators, Shirley Ybarra and Peter ..... 5 jcomyn: Goodman. Lively stuff and good hands petepunt: ... that u can then hold up © © © ¨ © - 103 - © © thegarve: its from xxx so no trump lead suggests © qxx ♠.. 9 capercliff: E/W play stand count? henryb: I wonder whether a less brave call, such as pass, would have led to E-W missing this game.. A santyclz: Never mind. Not enough pitches...♠A capercliff: not necessarily Martin..♠T..♠2 steshome: If you say so viren169: all routes lead to 10 tricks... on hooking the diumraid: Thanks to all the Viewgraph operators without whom we could not bring this event to you. Pat Liston, Bob Pattinson, Jim Sexton, Genie O’Regan, Stephen Peterkin, Marian Croke, ... diumraid: Margaret Fitzpatrick, Maria Donegan, Ena Cleary, John Fitzgerald, Mary Finn, Enda Glynn, Pat Healy, Louise Mitchell, Kay Cussen, Lucy Phelan, Pierce Kelly, Mark Burke, Michael ... diumraid: O’Connor jcomyn: Anyway folks one to go for the day, so once again Thanks to Paul Porteus and CBAI and to Eamonn Galligan on his accordion. Alkso John Murchan and Ralf Rilquist for a job .....♠3 jcomyn: excellently done. I did not enjoy this annihilation but NI are playing winning bridge mariner1: Alex is chillin’ that Champagne jcomyn: but didnt..♠K petepunt: a let off jcomyn: too true diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 76, SCOTLAND 68, IRELAND 62, ENGLAND 61, CBAI 55, WALES 34 ****..♠J capercliff: needs the ♠ finesse..♣3 vugraphzms: EW play standard count jallerton: depends on the opening lead style of this particular West..♠6 thegarve: when in two-way Q situations build up your clues capercliff: this auction doesnt call for a ♠ lead anyway rednaxela: On 32 NI look to have a probable 4 imps coming. capercliff: if E/W were playing reverse count then E could not hold the 6♠..♠9.. 4 jcomyn: phew..♣4 jcomyn: another slap on the hand for my wife capercliff: tx operator (sry didnt get your name) mdgraham: it certainly gave a bit of sting to the 4♣ bid..♠Q.. Q © © © ¨ Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) ¨ ¨ ¨ petepunt: possibly 10 now.. K.. 2.. 7..♠4 capercliff: 2 off now diumraid: ****** In Running Scores ******* - LIVE from LIMERICK ********- N-Ireland 23, ENGLAND 16, CBAI 15, IRELAND 15, SCOTLAND 14, WALES 7..♣5 jcomyn: ok folks last board coming up - well done paul porteus and the CBAI for organising and Eamonn Galligan on keyboard. Thanks to Ralf Rilquist and John Murchan for enjoyable ... jcomyn : afternoon and all the kibitzers for helping too jallerton: needed that to stand up..♣7 jcomyn: I really do hope NI win - they deserve it as they have done their job very professionally which is more than can be said for our lot..♠7..♣ A..♣Q..♣6 capercliff: I hate it when weak NT wins..♣9 capercliff: :) petepunt: strange..♣2..♠5..♣J jcomyn: Yes John I agree, but it was made very easy too..♣T viren169: well done Knight... and a flat board.. 6.. 3.. A.. J diumraid: **** LIVE LADY MILNE SCORES **** IN RUNNING **** CBAI 34, N-IRELAND 33, IRELAND 33, SCOTLAND 32, ENGLAND 26, WALES 22 jcomyn: and if anyone doesnt like what I am saying - LOOK AT THE SCORE diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNNG **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 92, N-IRELAND 90, ENGLAND 84, CBAI 70, IRELAND 70, WALES 40 **** © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ Board NS: EW: o 4♠ c 4♠ 16 E E 5 5 this/total IMPs BTN 154 Djarum 162 650 650 16 2 ♠6 2 Q98 2 7 1 Q7 4 7 ♣J9652 ♠ J10 5 N ♠ AK Q9 4 3 J6 A10 W E 9865 A K10 3 S ♣10 8 4 3 ♣A ♠8 7 2 10 11 K7543 5 J2 11 ♣K Q 7 6 650 W: A HAITANI W p p p 2N p ©3,6,Q,A ©T,K,J,2 ¨A,2,5,4 ¨8,7,3,J #1 S:: #3 E:: #5 E:: #7 W:: N: J BOJOH Open E: OCTAVIAN S: L GONTHA N E S p 1♣ 1 1♠ X 2♠ p X p p 4♠ p p © ª ª § ª ª © #2 E:: A,2,5,6 #4 S:: 7,T, 2, K #6 E:: 4,8,J, 8 - 104 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) Board NS: EW: o 4♠ c 4♠ 16 E E this/total IMPs Djarum 162 BTN 154 650 650 5 5 16 2 ♠6 2 Q98 2 7 1 Q7 4 7 ♣J9652 ♠ J10 5 N ♠ AK Q9 4 3 J6 A10 W E 9865 A K10 3 S ♣10 8 4 3 ♣A ♠8 7 2 10 11 K7543 5 J2 11 ♣K Q 7 6 650 W: Piskanto W p 2 3♣ 4♠ ¨ ª ª N: Anthony S Closed S: Kamto N E p 2♣ p 2♠ p 3 p p ¨ #1 S:: 2,5,6,Q #3 E:: 3,8,J, 5 § ª ¨ E: Franky K S p p p p § #2 E:: K,7,T, 2 #4 W:: 5,4,A,J jallerton: This is the last board of the set. Thank you to our operator in Limerick. Great concentration! ..p..p..1♣..1 ..p..1♠.. ..2♠..p..p.. ..p..2N..p..4 ♠..p..p..p.. 3.. 6.. Q.. A..♠A..♠2..♠5..♠ 6.. T.. K.. J.. 2..♠7..♠T..♣2..♠K.. A.. 2.. 5.. 4..♠4..♠8..♠J.. 8.. 8.. 7.. 3.. J capercliff: last board ty all, a short breal and we will be back jallerton: Thanks also to my co-commentators: Ian Crorie, Cliff Gillis and Sarah Teshome. steshome: Boo we are down against the auld enemy jallerton: This is the last board. Thank you to the vugraph operator in Limerick. Great concentration! capercliff: and this was an important board jallerton: Thanks also to my excellent co-commentators Ian Crorie, Cliff Gillis, Sarah Teshome and Martin Garvey. vugraphzms: u r welcome steshome : Aren’t NS in this room playing a © ¨ ¨ © © © © © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 105 - weak NT? jallerton: Thanks also to the CBAI (Paul Porteous and Eamon Galligan) for broadcasting the event. idc: 15-17 capercliff: no 15-17 I think jcomyn: last hand coming up folks. Again thanks to Paul Porteus and the CBAI for allowing us to broadcast this championship. Also Eamonn Galligan on the gizmo and Peter Larsen and Gad ... jcomyn: Chada for a most interesting morning see u all later pkl: Last one. viren169: Thks all... not the most riveting bridge... but entertaining all the same! pkl : Quite an interesting morning - with or without the slapping jcomyn: wales went mad in the open room. that will not happen here vugraphzms: last board ralfwil: this looks like a big win for NI. Congratulations! ralfwil: and I had´·nt been satisfied as E! diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 76, SCOTLAND 68, IRELAND 62, ENGLAND 61, CBAI 55, WALES 34 **** mariner1: I think SCOTLAND has it now unless last board is a huge swing rednaxela: I think NI are on their last board, and are 9 imps up. mariner1: I do not see SCOTLAND losing any here,,,,,,,,,,,,,, henryb: and an equally brave Multi..p toobad: ta v much!! capercliff: 4♠ would have played better than 4 because of entry issues jcomyn: an aul 3NT..p jcomyn: well thats that and a flat board to finish what has been a thoroughly impressive display by the NI ladies capercliff: but like Rob said, difficult to get to capercliff: after passing with the N hand that is mariner1: a big THANKS! to Mark (Ireland), our superb operator, for doing an excellent mariner1 : job!!! <Applause> <Applause> < Applause> rednaxela: Hard to beat 650. jallerton: Thanks also to the CBAI (Paul Porteous and Eamon Galligan) for broadcasting the event. Next set in 10 minutes or so...2♣ jallerton: Finally thanks to BBO and a special thank you to Roland Wald for all his hard work. © Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) steshome: Yes thanks to all especially Roland thegarve: big swings appearing on both sides of the fence 14 on board 29 and 13 on board 31 capercliff: Scotland will need a small swing on this brd to win thegarve: 19-13 in this set so far from 13 scored boards - not a lot for International bridge mariner1: many thanks to the the Lady Milne Tournament folks, the Contract Bridge mariner1 : Association of Ireland, and Paul Porteous and Eamon Galligan who have been mariner1: instrumental in helping BBO bring us the vugraphs! mariner1: and thanks for their wit and insight to my co-commentators Mike Gold (Great mariner1: Britain), Alex Adamson (Scotland), and Roland Wald (Denmark).....I am Rob mariner1: Brown (USA)....... idc: Looks like a normal 3NT making, so Scotland will be taking a small lead into the second half..p mariner1: Roland Wald (Denmark) is the BBO vugraph co-ordinator and works diligently mariner1: at it! mdgraham: 2 is not exactly holding back at this vulnerability ..2 jallerton: S has an awkward call here idc: wow - Guy got the right in 3NT on Board 29 - a surprise 14 IMPs for Scotland jallerton: I like 1♠ pkl: Yes - two dubious actions in open room: the invitation and the acceptance to game. ralfwil: Last board now. Thx all John, John and our excellent VU-graph coordinator santyclz: 4♠ is probably a better contract than 3nt but doomed by ruffs. mariner1: a big THANKS! to Mark (Ireland), our superb operator, for doing an excellent mariner1: job!!! Walddk4: 20 rather, 9:55 local time..p petepunt: thanks all - hope ive said enough nice things they let me back into ireland next weak? mariner1: many thanks to the the Lady Milne Tournament folks, the Contract Bridge mariner1 : Association of Ireland, and Paul Porteous and Eamon Galligan who have been mariner1: instrumental in helping BBO bring us the vugraphs! Walddk4: Sarah, Jeffrey and Ian will be back, so you are in good company, specs..2♠ idc : that was the AQx opposite Txxxx - she played A then led up to Qx & ducked thegarve: need to avoid 3NT and play in the ¨ ¨ © ¨ making 4♠ - treat those Spades as 6 mariner1: and thanks for their wit and insight to my co-commentators Shirley Ybarra mariner1: (USA), Cliff Gillis (Scotland), and Roland Wald (Denmark).....I am Rob Brown mariner1: (USA)....... mariner1: also, a round of applause for our hosts: Fred, Sheri, Uday, Bill Gates, Sharon mariner1: Osberg, and David Smith. Without them there would have been no broadcasts. mariner1: Thanks a lot for creating a site that is greatly appreciated by bridge lovers mariner1: worldwide! thegarve: North opened the bidding on baord 29..p..3♣ santyclz: 3♣ has play, but I don’t expect it to be bid. idc: all four pairs seemed a bit rusty so far, but now they’ll be warmed up..p capercliff: yes 1♠ looks rather obvious no? steshome: Yes I saw - very good view viren169: Looks like 2♠ will make but imps flowing in the opposite direction... toobad: the scientific approach toobad: i hope the NI girls have a wonderful dinner, they have earned it..........tomorrow is a new day....... best of luck to everybody..3 ralfwil: I wish you all a good night from Sweden! jcomyn: night Ralf santyclz: Never mind, no reentry for the 2nd ruff. mariner1: Roland Wald (Denmark) is the BBO vugraph co-ordinator and works diligently mariner1: at it! mariner1: also, a round of applause for our hosts: Fred, Sheri, Uday, Bill Gates, Sharon mariner1: Osberg, and David Smith. Without them there would have been no broadcasts. mariner1: Thanks a lot for creating a site that is greatly appreciated by bridge lovers mariner1: worldwide! henryb: I think the Estonians take the view: I paid my card fees and I did not pay them to pass! ..p mariner1: thanks to all our spectators, their tips and comments help!..4♠ jallerton: except that two of the ’warmed up’ pairs may be asked to sit out!..p capercliff: not much to this hand, a quick claim after 2 rounds of ♣ jallerton: teams of 6 capercliff: but good thing ♣ are 2-2 thegarve: the lead was easy - but a gift is a gift ¨ - 106 - Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal 5B) rednaxela: Nothing happening for NI on their last hand. mariner1: I am going out on a limb and saying SCOTLAND has won it! rednaxela : And now the overtricks DON’T matter. Well done Scotland! mariner1: thanks all! mariner1: http://online.bridgebase.com/vugraph/ schedule.php - BBO Vugraph Schedule mariner1: (set up to show times for your area) rednaxela: Well done, Northern Ireland, for their highest finish in a number of years and for taking it to the very last board. diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 93, SCOTLAND 91, ENGLAND 78, CBAI 71, IRELAND 67, WALES 46 ****..p diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNING **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** N-IRELAND 93, SCOTLAND 91, ENGLAND 78, CBAI 71, IRELAND 67, WALES 46 **** capercliff: looks like it will go down to the wire this year diumraid : **** LIVE IN RUNNNG **** LADY MILNE LIMERICK **** SCOTLAND 92, N-IRELAND 91, ENGLAND 85, CBAI 70, IRELAND 69, WALES 39 **** thegarve: approaching a century now..p..♠2 petepunt: 2♠ 3 3 1♣ possibly..♠5..♠6 toobad: good luck ralf and john.thanks for the craic and banter..♠Q..♠K..♠7 capercliff: still going to end up in 3N I reckon..♠ T petepunt: ok, protects ur entry viren169: now a ducked.....♣2..♠3 capercliff: last hand ty all..♠8 thegarve: as is often the case the ♣ suit was lost idc: yes, good fun, thx fellow bletherers jallerton: We return to the Lady Milne in about 10 hours from now at 09.00 GMT (10.00 local time). idc: and specs too for bearing with us :) thegarve: and finally ..... capercliff: pondering whether or not she needs this finnesse thegarve: "we’re doomed" steshome: Thanks all - see you soon..♠J..♣5.. 5.. 4.. A jallerton: thanks all, back in 18 minutes’ time henryb: Apparently 2 shows a two suiter with at least one major.. J petepunt: 3♠ 3 3 now © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 107 - ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨
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