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Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) Board 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 15 16 Ankara Uni. S.K. vs Galatasaray S.K. Ankara Uni. S.K. Galatasaray S.K. Galatasaray S.K. Ankara Uni. S.K. N N.Cengiz E N.Aydogdu N M.A.ince E A.Ozalp S C.Arigun W O.Ekinci S M.Karadeni W O.Goksel Contract By M D N-S E-W Contract By M D N-S E-W 3N W 1 50 3N W 3 400 4♥x N 4 790 4♦ E 1 50 3♥ E 1 100 2♥ E 3 140 3N W 1 100 3N W 1 100 3N N 1 100 3N N 4 630 2♦ S 2 90 1N S 1 50 3♦ E 3 110 3N W 1 100 4♠ E 5 450 4♠ E 5 450 4♠ E 1 100 3♥ S 4 170 4♠ E 1 100 4♠ S 4 620 1N W 1 90 IMPs 10 12 6 - 12 4 - 5 - 2 32 19 IMPs Ankara Uni. S.K. Galatasaray S.K. This segment 32 19 Penalty 0 0 Carryover 0 0 total 32 19 -1- References: BridgeBase online. Edited by M.Sugino Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) Board NS: EW: o 3N c 3N 1 1 this/total IMPs Ankara Uni. S.K. 10 10 Galatasaray S.K. 0 W -1 50 W 3 400 3 ♠ A10 9 7 5 Q6 4 5 3 Q9 3 3 ♣A 5 3 ♠K Q 2 N ♠J8 J10 8 K52 W E A10 7 4 K J52 S ♣10 6 2 ♣K Q J 8 ♠6 5 4 3 9 8 A973 8 86 10 ♣9 7 4 10 400 W: O.Ekinci W 1N p http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content& task=view&id=520&Itemid=224 ahollan1: and if you go up one level from that you can see System Summary Form for EW Vugraphu1: I’m afraid I lost track of the play here because I was rushing to change to the right set of boards - will claim as soon as play is over I know he played spades K...A ritong : no problem, jan you do just fine, as always..♠K N: N.Cengiz Open E: N.Aydogdu S: C.Arigun N E S 1♣ p p p 3N p p ªT,8,6,K §Q,7,6,3 ¨2,8,T,Q ª7,©2,ª4,Q ª9,¨5,ª5,©8 ©3,,, #1 N:: #3 E:: #5 E:: #7 N:: #9 N:: #11 S:: ahollan1: ACBL CC for Berk-Cohen available at § ¨ ª § © #2 W:: 2,5,K,4 #4 E:: K,6,4,3 #6 N:: A,J,3,2 #8 W:: T,A,8,9 #10 N:: Q,K,A,T ¨ © © ¨ harmon: hey all..♠2..♣2.. 6..♣K.. 8.. 2.. © 3.. 9..1♣..p..p..1N..p..3N..p..p mrace: hi ritong: hola guys harmon: is that the right score??..p..♠T..♠8..♠6 mrace: do u guys think we will see a lot of action this segment ? mrace: yes it is ritong: i do not think so ritong: unless boards appeal it harmon: when I left last segment it was like 8723 Vugraphu1: The Meltzer players are hoping for a lot of action ritong: these players are not crazy shooters, they will probably try to swing in borderline situations, but they certainly will not create them out of the blue -2- Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) Board NS: EW: o 3N c 3N 1 1 this/total IMPs Galatasaray S.K. 0 Ankara Uni. S.K. 10 10 W -1 50 W 3 400 3 ♠ A10 9 7 5 Q6 4 5 3 Q9 3 3 ♣A 5 3 ♠K Q 2 N ♠J8 J10 8 K52 W E A10 7 4 K J52 S ♣10 6 2 ♣K Q J 8 ♠6 5 4 3 9 8 A973 8 86 10 ♣9 7 4 10 400 W: O.Goksel W p 1N p N: M.A.ince Closed S: M.Karadeni N E 1♣ p p 1♠ p 3N p E: A.Ozalp S 1 p p © ©4,2,9,J #2 W::§2,3,K,7 §8,9,T,A #4 N::©Q,K,3,8 ªJ,4,2,A #6 N::©6,5,A,T ©7,¨4,§5,¨2 vugrapha3: hi..♣2..♣5..♣K..♣4..♣Q..♣7..♣6.. ♣3..¨K..¨6..¨4..¨3..¨2..¨8..¨T..¨Q..♠A.. ♠J..♠3..♠2..♠7..©2..♠4..♠Q..♣T..♣A..♣8.. ♣9..♠9..¨5..♠5..©8..©Q..©K..©A..©T..©3 vugrapha3: i ¨ 1 #1 N:: #3 E:: #5 E:: #7 S:: rodal f: Hi all:) Nice to see u again.Hi Roand rodal f: Roland rodal f: And back we are:) vugrapha3: and were starting vugrapha3: and we are off vugraphzuh: baˆ lˆ‰yoruz kandemir: selamlar vugraphzuh: Baˆ lˆ‰yoruz iyi seyirler baskanb: herkese merhabalarrrr siyabend: selamlar siyabend: guzel ve keyifli bir maˆ§ izleriz umarˆ ‰m baskanb: adana oyuncularˆ‰nˆ‰ tanˆ‰mˆ‰ yorum ama Hakan Gˆ¶ksu eski partnerim gururla -3- sˆ¶yleyeyim :) baskanb: Bˆ…lent aslan da iyi arkadaˆ ˆ‰mdˆ‰ r stilini bilirim benim iˆ§in ˆ§ok eˆ lenceli bi maˆ§ olacak umarˆ‰m herkes iˆ§in ˆ¶yle olur vugraphzuh: Merhabalar vugraphzuh: selamlar herkese tekrar hoˆ geldiniz vugraphzuh: Baˆ lˆ‰yoruz baskanb: Yeniden merhaba ebeb: slm burak abi baskanb: Merci Bora hg vugraphzuh: Eskisehir’den merhabalar..1♣..p MolvaM: hoˆ geldiniz baskanb: Hakan abi belki de dˆ…nyanˆ‰n en hˆ ‰zlˆ‰ oyuncusudur o anlamda kˆ‰sa sˆ…rede maˆ§ˆ‰ bitirebiliriz ama Bˆ…lent yavaˆ latacaktˆ ‰r onu :) siyabend : tekrar selamlar keyifli yorum ve seyirler baskanb: yeniden Merhaba Walddk2: 3NT or 4 with 11 tricks..1 vugrapha3: System Cards can be found at http:// www.abf.com.au/events/anc/2009/systems.html rodal f: Tranc for and 4 . Arethe slam on then? MolvaM: ˆ ampiyonada 16 takˆ‰m nakavt maˆ§ larˆ‰na baˆ ladˆ‰lar MolvaM: bundan sonra yenilen takˆ‰m eleniyor vugraphzuh: tekrar hoˆ geldiniz senmel: selamlar..p Walddk2: hardly when you are off two aces..1♠ vugraphzuh: eskisehirden herkese merhabalar MolvaM: hangi takˆ‰mlar kimle eˆ leˆ ti bilmiyoruz henˆ…z MolvaM: muhtemelen bu gece tbf sayfasˆ‰ gˆ… ncellendiˆ inde bileceˆ iz murat e: aynˆ‰ anda spingold finali baˆ ladˆ‰ seyircimiz biraz az olabili bu sefer senmel: tbf satfasinda eslesme krokisi var haans: sometimes you come and go..p..p baskanb: hˆ‰zlˆ‰ baˆ ladˆ‰ ama deklarasyona bakˆ‰nca bu devre vugraph taki arkadaˆ larˆ‰m ˆ‰zˆ‰n yardˆ‰mˆ‰na baˆ vurmamˆ‰z gerekece ˆ i anlaˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰yo oldukˆ§a fazla alert gerektiren deklarasyon olacak gibi vugraphzuh: alertler kaˆ ˆ‰tlara yazˆ‰lˆ‰yor , 4cl kuvvetli kˆ¶rler anlamˆ‰nda sanˆ‰rˆ‰m, emin deˆ ilim siyabend: 4cl sanˆ‰rˆ‰m hler olmasˆ‰ lazˆ‰ m siyabend: kapalˆ‰ gibi baskanb: tabii ˆ unu da ekleyeyim Hakan abi dˆ …nyanˆ‰n hˆ‰zlˆ‰larˆ‰ndan biridir derken © © © ¨ Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) doˆ ruyu en hˆ‰zlˆ‰ yapanlarˆ‰ndandˆ‰r anlamˆ‰nda sˆ¶yledim :) vugraphzuh: yavaˆ oynuycacaˆ ˆ‰ konusunda kendˆ‰sˆ‰yle anlaˆ tˆ‰k :) siyabend: bir donem ona garazzo lakabˆ‰da tak ˆ‰ldˆ‰ degilmi burak senmel: kim dusunuyor? vugrapha3: Sorry about all that, should be fine now...1N haans: what a start rodal f: Nice NS but better keep of rodal f: 11-14 again and a nice spot NS vugraphzuh: selam herkese vugraphzuh: Tˆ…rkiye Klupler Arasˆ‰ Final maˆ§larˆ‰na hoˆ geldiniz nafiz: herkese gˆ…naydˆ‰n, hg Fikret Aydoˆ du baskanb: Merhabalar baskanb: Sˆ…leyman abi hg rodal f: Y:) Sr..p atalok: slmlar herkesee siyabend: slmm ebeb: slm sˆ…layman abi bircan: herkese selamlar baskanb: GS takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰n oyuncusu Bircan ˆ ztˆ…rk de aramˆ‰zda rodal f: EW are soooo near a slam, but.....3N rodal f: Resaults from the turney: http://www.bridgeunlimited.com /bridge/ViewMasterEvent2?code=09ANCT& header=abf senmel: agrubu e oldu, b grubug oldu,c grubu f oldu, d grubu h oldu vugraphzuh: Bulent Aslan Walddk2: ♠A would have been much better than KQ..p Walddk2 : Which goes to show that the 4321 scale is just a rule of thumb april7: hello everybody and good ATERNOON..p Walddk2: Easy to deal with, but far from accurate..p rodal f: Resault info for the turney: http://www.bridgeunlimited.com /bridge/ViewMasterEvent2?code=09ANCT& header=abf f_aydogdu: olma potansiyeli var f_aydogdu: piklere f_aydogdu: karolarˆ‰ atarak senmel: ok baskanb: hep oyuncularˆ‰ tanˆ‰tacak deˆ iliz ya Bora da genˆ§ milli oyuncumuz Tˆ…rk bricinin geleceˆ i onlarˆ‰n ellerinde hg bora atalok: guzel dediler ama mesut abi 2 sp dese bitmisti arigun: merhabalar.. 4.. 2 vugraphzuh: Merhabalar ¨ © © baskanb: ben duymadˆ‰m selahattin abi tˆ…rk bricinde duyen tabii ben tanˆ‰ˆ madan ˆ¶ncesinde vardˆ‰r belki :) baskanb: 1sp ˆ…zerine kontr denebilir bence Do ˆ unun eliyle april7: an easy claim.. 9 haans: funny start.. J april7: and lucky siyabend: ben oyle hatˆ‰rlˆ‰yorum gibi senmel: karo donerse olur baskanb: kˆ¶r dˆ¶nˆ…ˆ ˆ… zorunlu batrˆ‰mak i ˆ§in senmel: kimin caktigini bilmesi lazim senmel: kor donunce 10xxx pik buyuyor siyabend : ortakta tek karodan ˆ§ˆ‰kmˆ‰ˆ olabilir baskanb: garozzo lakabˆ‰ ˆ smail Kandemir’ indir abi :) f_aydogdu: sanˆ‰rim olacakta..♣2 baskanb: ama ˆ…stadˆ‰n dediˆ i gibi doˆ u db da dese 2pik yˆ…kseltmesi ˆ…zerine zon sˆ¶ ylemek imkansˆ‰z gibi..♣3..♣K..♣7..♣8..♣9.. ♣T Walddk2: Last chance to cash ♠A..♣A siyabend: ˆ imdi oyle bircan: devamˆ‰na bilinemezse batacak.. Q rodal f: If u like to follow manny tables: http:// www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ Click on try first and enjoy where u like:).. K.. 3.. 8 senmel : deklaranin 3 tane karosu olsa 5 pik tercih etmezdi bircan: m. ali abi mˆ…thiˆ gˆ¶sterdi Q yu, ˆ imdi Q ˆ¶bˆ…r tarafta aranabilir atalok: h as kimde? rodal f: Had the ♣ a bit unlucky placed..♠J baskanb: bence kˆ¶r asˆ‰ gˆ…neyde ise karo damˆ‰ tespit edildi:) vugraphzuh: slmm Murat hg..♠4..♠2..♠A Walddk2: Good morning to Ben Thompson.. 6 benjent: Hi everybody Walddk2: and good night to me, see you benjent: Night Roland - cu soon rodal f: For watch all matches: http://www.bridgebase.com /client/vugraph.php rodal f: Back we are after a small ....... benjent: Re-hi vugrapha3: sorry the internt dropped out for a moment f_aydogdu: piki almassa murat: selam Herkese atalok: kuzeyin eli as sp as cl ve 2 dam net © © © © ¨ © © © ¨ © © -4- Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) © © © f_aydogdu: batˆ‰rˆ‰r.. 5.. A f_aydogdu: dicektimki aldˆ‰.. T murat: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams_ © event.php?event=198&stage=435.. 7 murat: son durumlarˆ‰ buradan takip edebilirsiniz f_aydogdu: gnd herkese .. 4..♣5 bircan: benim yorumlarˆ‰m GS ye gˆ¶re :).. 2 ¨ ¨ Board 2 this/total IMPs NS: Ankara Uni. S.K. 12 22 EW: Galatasaray S.K. 0 o 4 x N 4 790 c 4 E -1 50 © ¨ 2 6 ♠ 942 8 KQ65 432 10 4 10 4 ♣ 93 ♠8 7 6 3 N ♠K J 10 A8 W E K J97 Q6 432 S ♣ J10 7 2 ♣AK 8 4 ♠ A Q10 5 3 4 J97 3 A85 9 ♣Q 6 5 7 -300 2 p N: N.Cengiz Open E: N.Aydogdu S: C.Arigun N E S 1 p 4 X p p § § ª #2 E:: A,6,2,3 #4 S:: 7,T,K,A #6 S:: J,,, W: O.Ekinci W ¨ © #1 E:: K,5,7,9 #3 E:: 4,Q,T, 4 #5 E:: J,Q,7,2 ª ¨ § © © ahollan1: all permuations of Ekeblad-Granovetter- Rubin-Weichsel [not on this team] play same card with changes only to carding ahollan1: this is last set of 64 board final ahollan1: 1N=good 14 - 17..1 mrace: yes thats the running score as i am informed ahollan1: 2♠ denies MAX with 3+♠..p..2 ..4 .. ..p harmon: a long road to hoe for Meltzer..p ahollan1: 2N=4+♣..p..♣K..♣5..♣7..♣9..♣A ahollan1: but i don’t remember strength :( harmon: 9pts Vugraphu1: Granovetter showed spades & clubs, game force. Could have done more if he wanted to. Eke showed better than a minimum..♣6..♣2.. ♣3..♣4..♣Q ahollan1: Harmon answer incomplete 9 HCP, 13 cards..♣T Vugraphu1: Eke asks about lead - Q or shortness ahollan1: Jan is great at getting details from the ¨ ¨ -5- ¨ © Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) © players - but don’t let her know I said that..♠4.. 7.. T.. K Vugraphu1: I can’t get Matthew to write with a pen though, no matter what I do ritong: heh © © Board 2 this/total IMPs NS: Galatasaray S.K. 0 EW: Ankara Uni. S.K. 12 22 o 4 x N 4 790 c 4 E -1 50 © ¨ 2 6 ♠ 942 8 KQ65 432 10 4 10 4 ♣ 93 ♠8 7 6 3 N ♠K J 10 A8 W E K J97 Q6 432 S ♣ J10 7 2 ♣AK 8 4 ♠ A Q10 5 3 4 J97 3 A85 9 ♣Q 6 5 7 -300 W: O.Goksel W 1♠ 3 p 4 N: M.A.ince Closed S: M.Karadeni N E 1 X! 2 p p p 4♣ p p © E: A.Ozalp S p 2♠ 3 p p ¨ ¨ © ¨ #2 E::¨2,A,9,©6 #1 S::¨5,7,T,Q #3 S::¨8,J,©5,¨4 #4 W::§2,3,A,5 #5 E::©A,7,T,3 #6 E::©8,9,¨K,©2 #8 S::©J,ª3,©4,¨3 #7 W::§J,9,4,Q #9 E::§8,6,T,©Q #10 W::ª6,2,K,A #11 S::ªQ,7,4,J Walddk2: What a lucky man you are Bill, alone with 2 specs..©A..♠J..♠Q..♠7..♠2..©J bjacobs: Ah but what excellent specs they are bjacobs: And they and I know that this is the strongest table of the 4 rodal f: 24HP but on for a 6er it was baskanb: defans Sek AK kozla son iki lˆ¶veye girdi sˆ‰k rastlanan bi durum deˆ ildir baskanb: ˆ§ok estetik aruf: herkese selamlar vugraphzuh: Majorbogazˆ‰cˆ‰ ˆ‰yˆ‰ baslad ˆ‰ bu sete f_aydogdu: 3nt kadar yapar tre pasina pik basˆ‰ na birollar haans: :) we all been there :)..1 Walddk2: It’s easier to ask the audience ¨ -6- Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) vugraphzuh: Fethiye Bati Akdenizi 1. olarak btirdi. baskanb: 5 pike kadar yapˆ‰lˆ‰yor baskanb: 1nt az mˆ‰ gelri :) bjacobs: :)..p funtay: Herkese merhaba baskanb: aslˆ‰nda hakan abinin 4c db lˆ‰ ˆ§ok iyi karar direk 4 pik diyebilirdi ve o zaman zaten 6 pike gelebilirlerdi ..1♠ baskanb: Merhabalarrrr f_aydogdu: ama soylenecek bir 3nt degil tabii rodal f: If good biiding now sac at to be done by EW..2 Walddk2: I might have opened 2NT.. !..support rodal f: Hi Ben or/ and Jenny:) benjent: Today, it’s Ben :) benjent: Jenny’s getting her hair done, or possibly her nails. I plan to say "you look great" when she gets back. aruf: C grubunda sˆ‰ralama iˆ§in ˆ¶nemli bir ma ˆ§ MolvaM2: bu maˆ§ ilk 2 takˆ‰mˆ‰n maˆ§ˆ‰ de ˆ il mi? MolvaM2: yani zaten tuzu kuru olan takˆ‰mlar bunlar deˆ il mi? vugraphzuh: son durum iˆ§in vugraphzuh: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ teams_round.php?round=1716 vugrapha3: sorry catchin up..2♠ Walddk2 : How much do you think the K&R thinks it’s worth? bjacobs: Yes, but perhaps it’s normal to admit that in public rodal f: 6 are one by NS baskanb: 4H arigun: EW’ 4 5♣ oluyor..3 MolvaM2: bence bu maˆ§ta 1 ayaˆ u ˆ§ukurda olan takˆ‰mlarˆ‰n maˆ§ˆ‰nˆ‰n verilmesi daha iyi olurdu. vugraphzuh: Merhaba baskanb: ˆ§ok sˆ‰kˆ‰ maˆ§ :)..p atalok: baraj iyi ama acaba 1 nt acˆ‰lsa 4 kore gelinirmiydi? bircan: bencede, 2 dendikten sonra artˆ‰k 4 demek lazˆ‰m haans: all card right but .....p april7: a lot of work to do for 9 tricks rodal f: Hard to bid, but the spot are 4♠ rodal f: They did:) benjent: Nice work by Smart - getting past his 6322 to like his good spades enough to invite rodal f: Back to the info:) Vug TV: http://www.bridgebase.com © ¨ © ¨ © -7- © /client/vugraph.php arigun: NS baraj icin zon durumu uygun degil MolvaM2: bu oyuncularˆ‰ ˆ¶nˆ…mˆ…zdeki gˆ …nlerde nasˆ‰l olsa seyredeceˆ iz siyabend: spler kalˆ‰teli olmadˆ‰gˆ‰ iˆ§in demedi 4sp baskanb: ˆ ekilli 17 var ama kˆ¶tˆ… 5li renk kˆ ‰salarda konsantre puanlarla 1nt makul bence murat: for those who are looking English comments, you can find them in Open Room..3 vugraphzuh : Bornova ise Ege 3. su olarak katiliyor. april7: 3♠,2 ,2♣ and 2 ..p haans: J lead? arigun: 3♠ birazda fazla oldu gibi, e dogru karar verirse 1 batarak kurtarabilir murat: 1NT limitleri nedir Ayberg ? murat: 14- 16 ? vugraphzuh: (14)15-17 vugraphzuh: 5li renk oldugu icin actigini dusunuyorum. murat: 5li renk 14 ile 1NT ˆ…lkemizde geleneksel gibi birˆ ey arigun: bu arada 4 denmis :)..p siyabend: selamlar baskanb: batˆ‰dan 6 yapˆ‰labiliyor baskanb: bu zonda 2kˆ¶r diyene de 3 kˆ¶r az Mesut abinin eliyle atalok: mesut abi cok puanˆ‰ olunca az konusur heee bircan: herˆ ey bitmedi lead not to good for defence..4♣ april7: J of bjacobs: Atila de Luca and David Lusk have been stalwarts of SA for many years baskanb: 2nt pasa katˆ‰lmˆ‰yorum aslardan oluˆ an 8 puan 5li renk takˆ‰m maˆ§ˆ‰nda zon s ˆ¶ylememek iˆ§in bi sebep yok bence baskanb: trefl partaj karo Q uˆ§uyor f_aydogdu: sˆ‰kˆ‰ntˆ‰sˆ‰ baskanb: Alpay zon arˆ‰yor bircan: ararken buldurabilir aruf: 3 yada pas demiˆ ti atalok: kontur ve 4 H arigun: ♠ kupu ile yer zorlanirsa defans icin 2 1♠ lovesi var..p bircan: herkese merhabalar april7: position for declarer is ok..4 ..p rodal f: So E had no help? Single and..... but might hard to see senmel: puansal olarak yeterli degil ama aslar olunca teklerin karsisinda iyide fit olunca yapmasi kolay soylemesi zor f_aydogdu: var ama once © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) bjacobs: De Luca is the "pitcher" and Lusk is the "catcher"..p f_aydogdu: _1 dˆ…sˆ…nˆ…yorm f_aydogdu: 3h diyerek a..p atalok: 3.SANS bircan: son ˆ ans trenide kaˆ§tˆ‰ :) april7: and then ♠.. 5 baskanb: rb bircan abi size de bol ˆ anslar bircan: tesekkurler baskan baskanb: hg selahattin abi siyabend: eyvallah burak baskanb: doktorlar kapˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰yor Orhan abi dˆ ‰ˆ ˆ‰ndakiler tˆ‰p doktoru orhan abi de diˆ hekimi bildiˆ im kadarˆ‰yla siyabend: ve postacˆ‰da gitti f_aydogdu: karo oynadˆ‰gˆ‰nda h donduklerinde .. 7 baskanb: bence kazanca giden yolu buldu bjacobs: i.e. De Luca is creative.. T f_aydogdu: rakibi 3sp getirdi haans: spade kill dia entry.. Q rodal f: Looks like an 8er now. Not shure murat: pike yerden kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k koyunca batara geldi baskanb: mesut abi koz ˆ§ˆ‰kmaya bayˆ‰lˆ‰r :) bjacobs: Khokan Bagchi and Michael (Max) Smart are I think a first time partnership.. 2 MolvaM: genel bilgi verelim 1az MolvaM: eleme turlarˆ‰nda son 2 maˆ§a girdik MolvaM: bundan sonra 1 maˆ§ daha vara ve sonra gruplarda ilk 4er sˆ‰rayˆ‰ alan takˆ‰mlar MolvaM: nakavt aˆ amasˆ‰na geˆ§ecek f_aydogdu: mecbur tref damˆ‰ ezecek MolvaM: yani bu sabahki 2 maˆ§ 1ˆ§ok takˆ‰m i ˆ§in tamammˆ‰ devammˆ‰ ˆ¶zelliˆ ini taˆ ˆ‰ yor.. A benjent : Watching this set may take a little dedication, if the internet is going to keep dropping out in Canberra :).. 9 baylind: selam herkese arigun: neticede 3 ’in faydasi oldu rakip batar 4 ya geldi.. 6 bircan: evet, en son disi sabah macta cekti april7: needs entry for finesses.. 8 rodal f: Why not a new ? funtay: Eskisehirde Anemon Otelinde yapiliyor Turnuva, sanirim internet problemi var otelin rodal f: All resalults from the turney so fare: http: //www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php.. J vugrapha3: sorry havin probs with the inernet murat: defans pik atak ettiˆ i elde kˆ¶rleri saˆ ladˆ ‰.. 5.. 4 © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ baskanb: merci :) ckesgin: iki onoˆ¶r sek ♠ arayacak K tek de olur bjacobs: very strong players..♣2 baskanb: merci bˆ…lent hg :)..♣3 vugraphzuh: ˆ uanda 6. maclar oynaniyor.. vugraphzuh: ilk 5 maˆ§ sonunda son durum iˆ§in vugraphzuh: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/ teams_round.php?round=1715 baskanb: evet swing doˆ urabilecek bir el baylind: 6h batabilir 6 karo batmazdˆ‰ once karolarˆ‰ oynuyacaktˆ‰....♣A april7: just in time..♣5 Walddk2: http://www.jeffgoldsmith.org/cgi-bin/ knr.cgi?hand=K10xx+A10+AKJ9x+A10 21.95 arigun: ozcan abiyi tebrik ediyoruz :) rodal f: And C.. A.. 7 benjent: Khokan’s line is not without risk, but he has communication problems, and a 3rd to worry about.. T rodal f: Y f_aydogdu: yok bence diger masada yapar baska turlu bir oyun yok.. 3 bjacobs: Fair enough Roland, but maybe it’s too strong for 2NT on that basis? (Given the shape).. 8.. 9 vugrapha3: sorryo miss he irs board Walddk2: yes Walddk2: np Jane. long time no see. are you well? vugrapha3: i am ood Walddk2: odd or good? :) vugrapha3: i am ood :) bjacobs: No typo there rodal f: Can become a 7er ckesgin: selamlar 1. elde benim albatros 4♣ in adanaya uˆ§tuˆ unu gˆ¶rmek hoˆ oldu.. K.. 2.. ♣J baskanb: Coˆ kun abi mu maˆ§ sensiz olmazdˆ‰ bu oyuncularˆ‰n nefes alˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ bilirsin sen zannˆ‰mca :) funtay: ˆ lk el defansin basit hatasi ile Antalya takimina potansiyel swing kazandˆ‰rdˆ‰..♣9 baskanb: kˆ¶r boˆ lanabilir april7: hello everybody..♣4..♣Q Walddk2 : Bill, I promise not to mention the cricket bjacobs: oh feel free. We are hopeless bjacobs: Good for the country’s soul baylind: simdi tek kˆ¶rˆ…n yanˆ‰nda 3 tane karoya oynuayabilir april7: 10 tricks now.. J f_aydogdu: tek ruaya oynadi..♠3.. 4.. 3..♣8 f_aydogdu: orhan abi dam 2li dusundu ve bˆ‰ © © © © © © © ¨ © © © ¨ -8- Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) rakti © rodal f: Putted in at S for a ♣ EW..♣6..♣T.. Q..♠6 atalok: 170 bile vermediler gencler..♠2..♠K..♠ A..♠Q..♠7..♠4..♠J Board NS: EW: o 3 c 2 3 © © 3 this/total IMPs Ankara Uni. S.K. 6 28 Galatasaray S.K. 0 E -1 100 E 3 140 5 ♠J752 5 92 4 7 10 9 8 5 2 5 ♣Q 4 ♠ K10 9 3 N ♠8 6 4 A54 KQJ63 W E 7643 Q S ♣10 7 ♣AK 9 3 ♠A Q 8 8 10 8 7 9 AK J 5 ♣J8652 7 140 W: O.Ekinci W p p N: N.Cengiz Open E: N.Aydogdu S: C.Arigun N E S 1N p 3 p p ¨K,3,T,Q §K,6,7,4 §3,5,©5,9 ©8,A,¨5,©3 ª4,Q,K,2 ©K,T,¨7,ª5 #1 S:: #3 E:: #5 E:: #7 S:: #9 E:: #11 E:: © © § ª ¨ © ¨ ¨ © ¨ #2 S:: 7,4,2,J #4 E:: A,2,T,Q #6 N:: 7,8,A,3 #8 W:: 4,8, 6, A #10 W:: 6,2, Q, J ahollan1: both pairs playing big club so other suit openings limited to max of 15..1N..p..p ritong: this an example of " borderline situation" ritong : although this kind of psych is pretty common nowadays..3 ahollan1 : much easier 1N bid to make when opening bidder limited - i.e. no game forcing jump shifts coming..p..p ritong: vulnerabilty is favorable, hand belongs to opponents very likely, so you try to bother them..p Vugraphu1: Ekeblad alerted 3♣ - Cohen asks why - 2NT would have shown 2 places to play this is non-correctable.. K.. 3.. T.. Q.. 7 ahollan1: I think Granovetter had very tough decision ahollan1: Pass for penalty, 2N scramble, 3♣ as described -- all look reasonable.. 4.. 2 © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © -9- Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) mrace: so 2 nt would be scramble, not necesarilly weaker than 3 cl ritong: pass for penalty is not envisageable being + a ton, i think harmon: especially not with a big lead Vugraphu1: Granovetter didn’t correct Ekeblad’s description of 3♣, but it wasn’t clear to me that he heard it so may not have intended 3 ♣ as strongly 1-suited mrace: i think they did well by staying out of game with 25 hcp harmon: 3n on a d guess.. J..♣K..♣6 ahollan1: NS std count, upside-down attitude, odd/even 1st discard..♣7 ahollan1: ?..♣4..♣A..♣2..♣T..♣Q..♣3..♣5.. 5.. 9..♠7..♠8..♠A..♠3.. 8.. A.. 5 ahollan1: nah that doesn’t gain anything © © © ¨ © © ¨ Board NS: EW: o 3 c 2 3 © © 3 this/total IMPs Galatasaray S.K. 0 Ankara Uni. S.K. 6 28 E -1 100 E 3 140 5 ♠J752 5 92 4 7 10 9 8 5 2 5 ♣Q 4 ♠ K10 9 3 N ♠8 6 4 A54 KQJ63 W E 7643 Q S ♣10 7 ♣AK 9 3 ♠A Q 8 8 10 8 7 9 AK J 5 ♣J8652 7 140 W: O.Goksel W p p N: M.A.ince Closed S: M.Karadeni N E © p p 2 ¨ § § © § © ¨ © ¨ ª ª § ª © ¨ © © ¨ E: A.Ozalp S 1N p ¨ © § ¨ © ¨ © © ª ¨ ª © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ #1 S:: A,3,8,Q #2 S:: K,4,2, 3 #3 E:: A,2,7,4 #4 E:: K,5,T,Q #5 E:: 3,8, 4,9 #6 N:: 5, 6, J,6 #7 E:: 9,J, A, 9 #8 W:: 5,2,K,7 #9 E:: Q,8, 7, 5 #10 E:: J,T, 3, T #11 E:: 4,Q,K,2 #12 W:: 9,7,6,A #13 S:: 6, T,J,8 april7: light openings from N or E.. 3.. 4.. 8.. 6.. A..♠4..♠Q..♠K..♠2.. 6.. 2.. Q.. J.. K.. T.. 7..♠5 f_aydogdu: ben basta bir batar demistim yalancˆ ‰ cikarmammak icin beni boyle oynadilar sanirim f_aydogdu: 6sp olan bir el murat: Fethiye iˆ§in potansiyel swing eli oldu 2. el ckesgin: :) ckesgin : evet iki tarafˆ‰ da, sˆ‰kˆ‰ maˆ§ olacak april7: S might open 1 because of rebidproblems and then bid ♣..1N haans: easier to open that hand with 1nt (all do it) ..p april7: 2♣? ¨ - 10 - Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) haans: capelli 1 suiter?? benjent: when it has the "->" in front of it, it’s just for you rodal f: f u like to follow the vug by TV: http:// www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php funtay: Faruk ile Emre genˆ§ oyuncularˆ‰mˆ‰z f_aydogdu: sanˆ‰rim bulacaklarda baskanb: 1nt baskanb: bˆ¶yle bi elden 3nt yapmak iyi bir baˆ langˆ‰ˆ§ demektir moral olarak da :) murat: minˆ¶r hakikaten kapalˆ‰ fakat 3NT’de sˆ‰fˆ‰r el alˆ‰yor..p vugraphzuh: selam Hakan abi hg haans: cappelli..2 april7: interesting now murat: kˆ‰rmˆ‰zˆ‰da 3NT aˆ§tˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in yanda bir onˆ¶r olabilir mi acaba ? rodal f: On again for a hard one ..p ckesgin: selamlar baskanb: batˆ‰nˆ‰n rebidi zor baskanb: 2kˆ¶r forcing oynuyolarsa eˆ er baskanb: fit kontru batˆ‰yˆ‰ kurtardˆ‰ :) vugraphzuh: e-w zayˆ‰f nt oynuyorlar ckesgin: 3nt aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰na katˆ‰lmˆ‰yorum ayrˆ‰ca 5 olmalˆ‰ydˆ‰ funtay: 1Nt forsing ..p arigun: selam coskun april7: could just get home,inspite the bad break..p haans: opps not happy??? april7: even without ♣ finesse hikmetd: Tˆ…m seyircilere hoˆ geldiniz diyoruz vugraphzuh: pik rua tek oldugu iˆ§in yapmis olabilir. vugrapha3: 2d alerted.. A Walddk2: All very reasonable Walddk2: The lead too rodal f: 2♠ are? funtay: sry baskanb: karoda 1 fazla kart var ve ˆ ikan var evet april7: but W will lead ♣.. 3 funtay: bu deklerede degil funtay: major aciˆ ina ckesgin: kontr budur sabahki kontru gˆ¶rˆ…p kafasˆ‰ karˆ‰ˆ anlara baskanb: ˆ§ok karˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰k bir el D-B her an 3nt yapabilir :) april7: might be a misunderstanding.. 8 rodal f: If as I belive its free to take a que on the road baskanb: 2pike pass ? siyabend: 4sp biraz iymser oldu gibi © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 11 - senmel: fazla iyimser oldu rodal f: How to bid that slam?.. Q f_aydogdu: bilmeyenler icin abimin benden once ¨ istanbulda calistˆ‰gˆ‰ donemdeki pdri orhan abi ve bir cok sampiyonluklari var ben kadar olmasada baskanb: Orhan abi karo damˆ‰nˆ‰ bilememiˆ siyabend: koz atak olmasa 4 h yapˆ‰labilrdi rodal f: WD EW.. K vugrapha3: on card it says "FSJ limit+" hikmetd: atk bulunamazsa = hikmetd: :(:) Walddk2 : 4-card majors, weak NT for N-S I presume.. 4 benjent: 2NT must be artificial - I suggest weak with C or some strong hand rodal f: 3NT are one but will miss the handle of ♣ I belive, so a partscore might? Or NT still benjent: 3♣ would have been forced, and Koke’s passed it out with the uninviting hand with ♣’s april7: now ♠ and diescard of 1 and so on mAKING EVEN ´§.. 2 bjacobs: I think this match might go down to the wire. On paper, ACT is a little stronger bjacobs: And yes, I think NS play an Acol style baskanb: tref deˆ erlerini beˆ enmedi muhtemelen sˆ‰rtˆ‰ndan 1tref aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰nca baylind: passla hemfikir degiliz rodal f: Why 4♠?? 4♣ are obviouse.. 3 rodal f: On the way to 4♠ f_aydogdu: h cˆ‰kmasa 7 murat: defans bˆ…tˆ…n lˆ¶veleri alacak gibi champ i: selamlar murat: selam baskanb: batˆ‰dan oynanan 3nt ye pik ataˆ ˆ‰ boˆ landˆ‰ktan sonra kˆ¶r dˆ¶nerek batˆ‰rˆ‰ labiliyor..♣A hikmetd: Aˆ§ik odada Akgˆ…n 4♠ diyemedi..♣ 2 baskanb: ilk borddan sonra tansiyonu dˆ…ˆ ˆ… ren bir bord 3nt sˆ¶ylemek de yapmak da sorunsuz april7: 11 tricks available if S takes finesse agaist K of ♣..♣7 rodal f: Rest to see now are if N play the single ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ♣ vugraphzuh: atakdan sonra claim edildi:) murat e: 11 rodal f: Same here Jane..♣4 april7: ♠ to ace and ♣ 10..♣K ckesgin : K 1NT aˆ§abilirdi hele de 3.den ♠ araya giriˆ i ve ¨ atak ikisi de uymazdˆ‰..♣5 rodal f: But not nessesary home...♣T Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) baylind: grup olarak seyrediyoruz kimse pass atalok: 1 nolu elde ekinci karo damˆ‰n yerini demedi 2sp e MolvaM: ne dedi gruptakiler? baylind: 3karo baskanb: ne kadar ˆ anslˆ‰yˆ‰z yorumcular arasˆ‰nda yarˆ‰ˆ macˆ‰lardan oluˆ an bir panel var baskanb: herkese selamlar :) tweety1: selam april7: making 3..♣Q arigun: muhtemelen 11 love olacak aruf: rahat bir 3 nt eli baskanb: ama 1 kˆ¶r aˆ§ˆ‰ldˆ‰ktan sonra As kˆ ¶r ataˆ ˆ‰na da batˆ‰yor arigun: 4♠ de sorunsuzdu..♣3 benjent: I think Max should get ♣’s wrong so he doesn’t feel bad about missing 3NT :)..♣8 murat: hatta kˆ¶rˆ… ˆ§ekip iki tur karo oynarlarsa 2 batar senmel: tref rua ikili olsa icerde olura gelmisti simdi ckesgin: 20 tutuˆ var ama ♣ Q deˆ er kaybetmiˆ olabilir K deˆ erlendi ancak kˆ¶tˆ… koz daˆ ˆ‰ lˆ‰mˆ‰ endikasyonu ˆ§ˆ‰ktˆ‰ ♠ 109 kuzeyde olsa kontr da gelecekti ayrˆ‰ca kontrdan sonra bu kadar ... ckesgin: savunma kuvveti iˆ§ermemeli 4♠ murat: ˆ…ˆ§ˆ…ncˆ… karo ˆ imdi.. 4.. 9 atalok: 2 H uzerine 3 H Dermi diyenlere atalok: ben demezdim koz 4 tane olmadˆ‰gˆ‰ icin baskanb: Coˆ kun abi burdurdan Ali Salgˆ‰ Abimizden alert geldi Nevzat abinin 3 Nt ye 8. dia Karo dam olmamasˆ‰nˆ‰ tolere ediyomuˆ :) .. 5.. 6 rodal f: Winners are to feew.. J bircan: nevzat abi bastiriyo ama, bord cok duz vugrapha3: writing explanations.. 6 haans: quick up with A = have the Q murat: gˆ…zel defans..♣9 Walddk2: Isn’t it a major upset that neither NSW nor Vic made it to this stage?..♣J.. A april7: endplayed.. 9 siyabend: selamlar.. 5.. 2 f_aydogdu: SLM.. K april7: don’t cover!!.. 7.. Q haans: had you overcalled? baskanb: mrb abi :) baskanb: bˆ¶yle ellerle 3kˆ¶r demek ortaklˆ‰ˆ ˆ ‰n yarˆ‰ˆ ma gˆ…cˆ…nˆ… zayˆ‰flatˆ‰r kanaatindeyim siyabend: keyifli seyirler.. 8 bulamayˆ‰p batmˆ‰s.. 7 benjent: Max is maximising the play time on this hand - he must have been deprived on some previous hand..♠5.. J.. T rodal f: :) benjent: Getting a few questions on M Smart’s name. His parents named him Michael, but everyone else is a big fan of Get Smart and calls him Max funtay: ♣ pasi yerine pasi daha iyi april7: now 10 tricks..♠3.. T gurayserim: fethiye-major : 0-20 4bord april7: satisfied with 9..♠4 haans: taking ♠K to be sure..♠Q bjacobs : NSW failing to make it is a major upset..♠K..♠2..♠9..♠7..♠6..♠A..♣6..♠T..♠J vugraphzuh: 2 aˆ§ar el olarak alert edˆ‰ldˆ‰ bu elde..♠8 ¨ © © ¨ ¨ © © © © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © © © © © ¨ © © - 12 - Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) Board NS: EW: o 3N c 3N 4 this/total IMPs Ankara Uni. S.K. 28 Galatasaray S.K. 0 W -1 100 W -1 100 4 3 ♠A 5 3 5 AK 4 3 8642 8 ♣ J10 8 6 ♠Q 9 N ♠K 8 6 2 J10 9 Q6 432 W E KQJ53 A97 S ♣A Q 9 ♣4 ♠ J10 7 4 8 6 875 9 10 10 ♣K 7 5 3 2 5 140 W: O.Ekinci W 1N 2 3N ¨ N: N.Cengiz Open E: N.Aydogdu S: C.Arigun N E S p 2♣ p p 3♠ p p p p §J,4,2,Q ¨5,4,A,©8 §6,©2,§K,9 ¨K,6,9,©5 ¨3,ª5,6,7 #1 N:: #3 W:: #5 N:: #7 W:: #9 W:: ¨ ª § © ¨ © § © #2 W:: J,2,7,T #4 E:: 2,4,Q,A #6 S:: 7,A,8, 3 #8 W:: Q,8, 4, 5 #10 W:: J,K,Q,7 ahollan1: 16+ unbal or 18+bal..1N..p..2♣..p..2 ..p..3♠ ¨ ahollan1 : Berk-Cohen 1N opener is 14-16 EXCEPT 4th=15-17..p..3N..p..p..p..♣J Vugraphu1: Berk: "something about those hearts "..♣4 sybarra: hi..♣2..♣Q.. J.. 2.. 7.. T.. 5.. 4.. A.. 8..♠2..♠4..♠Q..♠A..♣6 ritong: hello shirley ahollan1: Berk ♣ too weak to misguess.. 2..♣ K..♣9..♣7 mrace: can make 6 if plays sp Q ..♣A..♣8.. 3.. K ahollan1: is there any other option to ♠ at this point? ritong: sure.. 6.. 9 ahollan1: i guess so.. 5.. Q ritong: a then a ruff.. 8.. 4 ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © - 13 - © © Board NS: EW: o 3N c 3N 4 this/total IMPs Galatasaray S.K. 0 Ankara Uni. S.K. 28 W -1 100 W -1 100 4 3 ♠A 5 3 5 AK 4 3 8642 8 ♣ J10 8 6 ♠Q 9 N ♠K 8 6 2 J10 9 Q6 432 W E KQJ53 A97 S ♣A Q 9 ♣4 ♠ J10 7 4 8 6 875 9 10 10 ♣K 7 5 3 2 5 140 W: O.Goksel W 1N 2 3N ¨ N: M.A.ince Closed S: M.Karadeni N E p 2♣ p 3♠ p p § ª § © ¨ § ¨ ª © § ª © ¨ E: A.Ozalp S p p p ¨ § © § ¨ © ¨ © ª © § © #1 N:: J,4,7,Q #2 W:: 3,4,A,T #3 E:: 2,J,Q,A #4 N:: 6, 2, K,9 #5 S:: 3,A,8, 3 #6 W:: K,2,7, 5 #7 W:: Q,6,9, 2 #8 W:: J,8, 4,7 #9 W:: 5, 5,6,4 #10 W:: 9,3,K,7 #11 E:: Q,8,9,A #12 N:: K,6, 5, T #13 N:: T, 8,T, J vugrapha3: sorry about north’s name, correct now..♣5.. 3..♠5..♠6..♠7.. J.. K.. Q.. 7 april7: taking J of ♠ no risk!!! haans: right haans: 3nt here rodal f: They play 13 at the other room now. 1NT E april7: 1 2♠ and then 3NT by W?..1N f_aydogdu: 4sp olacak bir baskanb: cengiz arˆ‰gˆ…n bir noda aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ a pass deyince Orhan abi kˆ¶r asˆ‰nˆ‰ aˆ§ˆ‰cˆ‰ ya plase etmiˆ Asˆ‰ olan cevap verebilirdi diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nerek haans: or open 2nt..p f_aydogdu: birollar derse 3nt april7: EW miht reach 3 NT but will fail on ♣ lead..2♣ © © © © © Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) haans: Big Club? april7: probably april7: still ♠ haans: they play precision nickf: All system cards @@ http://www.abf.com.au /events/anc/ Walddk2: 2 2NT and then ...? bjacobs: They had a very good team ... including players who have played in World Championship final rounds vugrapha3: System Cards = http://www.abf.com.au /events/anc/2009/systems.html Walddk2: Can Bachi find extra values? arigun: 6! tek batacak slam NS icin benjent : Seems like De Luca forgot to use Blackwood on 11 - hence the swing to ACT..p f_aydogdu: bence bunuda soyleyecekler haans: any bid from east = game..2 april7: are 6 points enough? rodal f: Puppet used? arigun: 6NT 3 lovesi ile oluyor arigun: 6 batacak kontrat ♠ ve NT oluyor arigun: 3♣ konturlu olursa slam kadar veriyor..p haans: can you pass with 6..3♠! haans: precision gives and takes rodal f: Then 3 telling ♠ benjent: Playing out exactly like puppet rodal f: On for a nice slam now:) vugrapha3: for system cards see http://www.abf.com.au /events/anc/2009/systems.html baskanb: merhabalarrrrr :) f_aydogdu: 3nt april7: 2♠ 3 and then 3NT..p f_aydogdu: trefe h atˆ‰p 5 yapar abim bunu ckesgin: davet eden varmˆ‰? 1NT aˆ§mayan var mˆ‰ sorusu kolay yerden baskanb: Sn Sˆ…leyman Kolata aramˆ‰zda kendisini sahneye davet ediyoruz :) f_aydogdu : diyecekler ama vale tref ataga batacak bircan : ♣ ataˆ ˆ‰na 3N, ataˆ ˆ‰na 4 batakta galiba haans: nt wrong now..3N haans: how is that possible april7: W shouldplay NT and not E, but he wants to play in a minor, to bad murat: kuzeyde bu sekansta bulabileceˆ iniz en iyi koz sayˆ‰sˆ‰ var. ckesgin: leri gˆ¶zardˆ‰ etti hakan baskanb: bazˆ‰ 15 dengelileri turanˆ‰n nt aˆ§ madˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰na ˆ ahit olmuˆ tum zaman zaman ama bu kez aˆ§tˆ‰ puanlar tepe onˆ¶rlerden oluˆ ¨ ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ © © tuˆ u iˆ§in muhtemelen :) april7: 8 tricks only..p baskanb: benim tercihim 3nt olurdu Ahunun elinden baskanb: markalarla destekli tepe onˆ¶rlerden oluˆ an bi 12 var bjacobs: Smart can..p rodal f: Sr Lost con but ended up as exspeted ckesgin: 2.♣ e bˆ ´…yˆ ´…k koyarak batma yolunda kuvvetli bir adˆ ´–m atmˆ ´–ˆ ´ tˆ ´– ama...olamadˆ ´–. murat: bakalˆ‰m 4kˆ¶r diyebilecekler mi murat: derken baskanb: panelimize soralˆ‰m arigun: yalcin mudahele firsati bulamadi zonda oldugu icin baskanb: burda hiˆ§ yorumcu yok galba kimse selamˆ‰mˆ‰zˆ‰ almadˆ‰ :) bjacobs : Smart was really stuck over 2 I suppose..p Walddk2: I think 2NT is textbook stuff bjacobs: Bagchi "see red" (the vulnerability) and bids 3NT Walddk2 : Doesn’t that show 11-12 with a C stopper? f_aydogdu : bazˆ‰larˆ‰ abimin eliyle oyun acmak isteyebilirler ama bende acmiyorum murat: en az 10 el alˆ‰yor ˆ u an baskanb : seyircilerden kocaman bir alkˆ‰ˆ alabilirsek ikna edebiliriz belki tatilinde ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ maya :) haans: if you double 2 please hide = no more bidding..♣J april7: now they are overboard bjacobs: Yes ... tougher if you take a point or two away Walddk2: Now, let’s see f_aydogdu: majorler oldugu icin cok cazip vugraphzuh: pek bi sessiz olduk:) atalok: cl atagˆ‰na yere dogru sp oynanˆ‰rsa 3 nt olur bircan: hadi bi ekmekte GS yesin benjent: No danger, but 3NT is a (marginally) better/safer contract than 4♠. And a lot safer than 6♠..♣4 rodal f: Use 11-14 NT openings so this show 15 17(18) baskanb: o zaman ben biraz saˆ§malayayˆ‰m m ˆ…sade ederseniz :))) vugraphzuh: :) haans: precion at its worse..♣7 haans: precision ¨ © - 14 - Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) hikmetd: iyi atak ve KANTAR aˆ§ilisi oynamiyorlar, nakalim Tigan defansi bulacak mkˆ‰? baylind: panel olarak katˆ‰lˆ‰oyoruz sana MolvaM2: kˆ¶r fitini bulmuˆ deˆ iller henˆ…z san ˆ‰rˆ‰m preferansˆ‰ ckesgin: ♣ 10 murat e: tref 10 aman karo dˆ¶nme diyo april7: the 2NT bid was not the best idea..♣Q Walddk2: he will let this ride to his queen and advance 10 to the queen champ i: kamil abi bir 3 h deseydi iyiydi bircan: lˆ¶ve yetmiyor ♠ oynasada f_aydogdu: dam ikiliden cok zor atalok: as alˆ‰rsa oda f_aydogdu: genede 8 de kalˆ‰r bˆ‰rakˆ‰r bircan: sˆ…leymanˆ‰n dediˆ i gibi acele ♠A girilirse sakat f_aydogdu: gecen elki 4 h gercekten cok sanli tek karoya as getiriliyor ve ad10 pikin ustunde rv sek f_aydogdu: zonda 1karo 2karoya 4 h dedi nuri bence cˆ‰lgˆ‰nca bise ebeb: tref bloke kalmˆ‰yo mu rodal f: Was a spot for 6♠ here. Still tough ♠ are 1-4.. 3 arigun: 2nt-dbl, puan vaadediyor ve ceza agirlikli bir el f_aydogdu: artˆ‰k yapar siyabend: koza devam etse batˆ‰racaktˆ‰ april7: the X was also wrong, because E makes it now and W WAS FORCED TO CONTINUE BIDDING ANYWAY.. 4 haans : you can not sell precision withn that bidding ckesgin: kuzey ˆ ´¶nce pas geˆ ´§ip sonra ♠ diyerek pastan geliyorum konvansiyonu oynuyor baskanb: merci bu soruyu da kazasˆ‰z atlattˆ‰ k :) baylind: bu arada salvo,nezih,naci burda herkese slm diliyorlar MolvaM: dikkat et burak panel yakˆ‰nda darbe yapˆ‰p masayˆ‰ ele geˆ§irecek baskanb: paneldekileri sˆ¶ledi daha nasˆ‰l konu ˆ acaz zaten paˆ am MolvaM: bizden de panele selamlar :) arigun: Vera’nin 3♣’i ortagina yollamadan cue bid edip 3♠ demesi cok kuvvetli el gosteriyor muhakkak arigun: ew ♠ kontratina 11 love alabiliyor, NS icin tahmin edilebilirse 10 love var baylind: salvo isim vermek istemedi :).. A arigun: Orhan ♠ kalitesinde emin olsa biraz daha © © ¨ ¨ © - 15 - ¨ canli konusmaasi lazimdi belki bjacobs: On either black suit switch, it seems N/ S has 5 tricks.. T vugraphzuh: Kantar atak varmˆ‰ diye soruldu cevap:yok f_aydogdu: tref markalarˆ‰ kurtariyor baskanb: ’ no da Nuri Cengiz’in 4 kˆ¶rˆ… ters zonda ˆ§okk agresif ama iyi sonuˆ§ vermiˆ bircan: her cinayeti ˆ§ˆ¶zˆ…yomusunuz amirim :) f_aydogdu: rakip 2 karo yaparken 800 her an verilebilir atalok: bence 1 d ya kontur atˆ‰lmˆ‰sdˆ‰r rodal f: By there systemcard. How to get in the key cards?..♠2 vugrapha3: 4d key card hikmetd: Kon.Kartlarinda YOK ckesgin: direk 2♠ demektense baskanb: 2noda arigun: ama o da hakli olarak ♠ den korkuyor..... ♠J arigun: hakan’in elinden 1♣ acilirsa yalcinin eli uygun seviyede deklerasyona mudahale edebiliyor arigun: o zaman isler belki biraz karisabilir arigun: bu boarddan muhtemel skorlar 5♠=, 5 konturlu -1 veya -2 ckesgin: Aslar ˆ§ok ˆ¶nemlidir iki onˆ¶r sek dˆ‰ ˆ ˆ‰nda insiyatif kullanmak sakˆ‰ncalˆ‰(15).. ♠Q siyabend: pardon koz atagˆ‰na benjent: So small opportunity for SA if Lusk-De Luca can bid 6♠ in the other room - not clearcut, but De Luca is an ... enthusiastic ... bidder..♠A baskanb : Melih ˆ en dˆ…nya genˆ§ler 2li ˆ ampiyonu atalok: evet 2 noda 1 karo kontur 2 karo 4 kor olmustur digeri heryerden sacma rodal f: I will take a look..♣6 april7: its still 1 down.. 2 Walddk2: Yes, first to 5..♣K f_aydogdu: deklerede yazmiyor dbl ama olabilir baskanb: Tezcan ˆ eni hepiniz tanˆ‰yorsunuzudur dˆ…nya imp 2li ve avrupa mixed 2li ˆ ampiyonu.. ♣9..♣3 april7: 3 of ♣ to give count..♣A benjent: The play for 6♠ from here is to cash two top diamonds, ruff a diamond then play the 3rd ♠ baskanb: Merhabalarrrr ebeb: dbl olmasa 2d inverted olurdu murat: selam..♣8 vugraphzuh: selam gurayserim: Fethiye - Major : 0-20 5 Bord.. 3 ¨ © © © Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) ¨ ¨ ¨ atalok: cl Q oynamanˆ‰n anlamˆ‰ yokdu .. K bjacobs: Having a good holiday Roland?.. 2.. riyilikci: eskiˆ ehirden herkese selamlar ckesgin: ekincideki A olsaydˆ‰ batˆ‰racaktˆ‰ 7 Nevzat ..♠9..♠3..♠K hikmetd: bravo..♠7 rodal f: Thx Ben.. Q.. 8.. 9 baylind: :) benjent: Gets to have a bit of fun ruffing his A.. A bircan: as yok ama RV versek?.. K.. 6..♣5 f_aydogdu : bizim polis gucˆ… takimi burda seyirci oldu bu sene haldun abi hosgeldin.. T..♣ T..♠8 © benjent: Q was optional :) champ i: selam zuner: selam herkese vugraphzuh: selam baskanb: ˆ en soyadˆ‰ iˆ sim benzerliˆ i :) baskanb: zannediyorum aˆ§ˆ‰k odada deklarasyonlar ˆ‰n yazˆ‰mˆ‰nda bir sorun var Walddk2: Fine thx.. 5 gurayserim: running scores http://www.tbricfed.org.tr /docs/bolgesel_haberler/2009/kuluplerarasi/ ceyrek_htm.htm.. Q baskanb: Nezih Kubaˆ§ ve Bˆ…lent Aslanˆ‰n da tˆ…rkiye ˆ ampiyonluklarˆ‰ var sayˆ‰sˆ‰nˆ ‰ hatˆ‰rlamadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰m kadar Nezih Bey milli oyuncu aynˆ‰ zamanda Bˆ…lent de bir kez milli oldu galba benjent: Just max-imising the play time I think :) .. 6 rodal f: De Luca waited a long time before she? passed 4 ♠. Opening there was 2♣ - 2 - 2NT .... baskanb: selamlar sˆ…rˆ§-ˆ… lisan affola artˆ‰ k bˆ¶yle bi jˆ…ri huzurunda :) siyabend: mrb sulayman baskanb: fethiye takˆ‰mˆ‰yla antalyada gˆ… zel gˆ…nlerimiz olmuˆ tu benim yerime kamil abi girmiˆ daha iyi derece almalarˆ‰ gerek.. 9 baylind: salvonun tansiyonu cˆ‰ktˆ‰ vale karoya rua karo oturulunca ckesgin: !7 de J iˆ§indi ama K de ♠ V olsaydˆ‰ iˆ e yarardˆ‰ allttan april7: well done altough it was not difficult..♣ 2.. J bjacobs: Of course the Vu Graph organization is a schemozzle with you away ... :) Walddk2: Bill, our expert on Yiddish baskanb: Abi hg bizi kˆ‰rmadˆ‰n merci :) f_aydogdu: slm baskanb: ama belki otur demiˆ tir Ahu valeyi oynarken :).. 8 rodal f: c.. 4 bircan: brawo orhan abi.. 7 benjent: Attilio De Luca. He. Beard and all... 5 f_aydogdu: ve 3nt arastˆ‰rˆ‰lmadan hemen 4 h lede mutabˆ‰k degilim baskanb: Tezcan bey de milli oyuncularˆ‰mˆ‰ zdan..♠5..♠6 hikmetd: If any question pls write to me..♠4 hikmetd: le yatirmak en iyi kart gibi © © © © © © © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © © ¨ © - 16 - Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) Board NS: EW: o 3N c 3N 5 this/total IMPs Ankara Uni. S.K. 28 Galatasaray S.K. 12 12 N -1 100 N 4 630 5 ♠AK 4 A K7542 ♣ K10 7 2 ♠J762 N ♠10 8 3 10 9 7 3 2 864 W E Q96 A10 8 S ♣A ♣Q 9 5 3 ♠Q 9 5 KQJ5 J3 ♣J864 600 W: O.Ekinci W p p p 9 8 8 9 9 4 5 5 4 3 N: N.Cengiz Open E: N.Aydogdu S: C.Arigun N E S 1 p 1 p 3♣ 2♣ 3N p p ¨ © ©8,5,2,A #2 N::¨5,8,J,Q ©7,¨2,©6,J #4 S::§4,A,2,3 ¨9,4,T,3 #6 E::©4,Q,3,§7 §6,©9,§K,5 #8 N::§T,Q,8,©T ¨A,ª5,¨6,7 ahollan1: but ¨ ruff wasn’t going away, was it or am i swayed by knowing the whole hand :(..♠ T..©J #1 E:: #3 W:: #5 W:: #7 S:: #9 E:: ritong: i m afraid so ritong: but np, al you are an entertainer Vugraphu1: Berk, who said "it’s too late to think about this" just said "they’ll never make that in the other room" :) A subtle complaint about flat boards ahollan1: who ain’t got no rhythm..1 ..p ahollan1: 1♠=4+♠ maybe any longer suit never 5♠ & 5 ..1 ahollan1: oops not longer ♣..p..2♣..p Vugraphu1: Eke said something about 2♠ and Berk said "so you don’t have 4 any more?" Eke " right, it shows 4 with a few more" Vugraphu1: Berk: "thank you; at least you have a fit"..3♣..p..3N..p..p..p.. 8 ¨ © © © - 17 - © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨Q..©7..¨2..©6..©J ritong: good..♣4..♣A..♣2..♣3..¨9..¨4..¨T..¨ 3 mrace: he heard u..©4 ritong: save time, B.. 5.. 2.. A.. 5.. 8.. J.. ritong: no wonder Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) Board NS: EW: o 3N c 3N 5 this/total IMPs Galatasaray S.K. 12 12 Ankara Uni. S.K. 28 N -1 100 N 4 630 5 ♠AK 4 A K7542 ♣ K10 7 2 ♠J762 N ♠10 8 3 10 9 7 3 2 864 W E Q96 A10 8 S ♣A ♣Q 9 5 3 ♠Q 9 5 KQJ5 J3 ♣J864 600 W: O.Goksel W p p p ª ª © ¨ N: M.A.ince Closed S: M.Karadeni N E 1 p p 2♣ 3N p ¨ 9 8 8 9 9 4 5 5 4 3 E: A.Ozalp ¨ © © ♣ © MolvaM: diˆ erleri ise hˆ…zˆ…nlˆ… 1 hafta geˆ§ S 1 3♣ p © § § © § © © © © ¨ ¨ #1 E:: 8,5,6,K #2 N:: T,3,4,A #3 W:: 2,A,3,9 #4 N:: K,5,6, T #5 N:: A,6,5,2 #6 N:: 2,Q,8, 3 #7 E:: A,3,6,2 april7: only a partscore in ♠.. Q.. 3..♣7..♣6.. 9..♣K..♣5..♣T..♣Q..♣8.. T.. A..♠5.. 6.. 7 bjacobs: Might be the only one I know ... well maybe muzzletoff (?) Walddk2: mazeltov hikmetd: evet kˆ¶tˆ… defansa iyi uyun zuner: kamil abiler..izmirde bize karsi kˆ¶tˆ… oynadiilar..adasim yer onlari:) baskanb: 1dia murat e: iki battˆ‰ senmel: kac love aldi defans vugraphzuh: -2 Oldu senmel: ok 1 yazdinda baskanb: evet 6 lˆ¶ve ˆ…retebilecek bir renge sahipken 3nt yabana atˆ‰lamaz atalok: 3 elde 28 imp 4 cude 12 her an gelebilir ortalama cok yuksek MolvaM: bu maˆ§ ˆ¶ncesi skorlar ˆ ˆ¶yle idi http:// © ¨ clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams_round.php? round=1715..1 bircan: bu turanˆ‰ tutacak adam yokmu? baskanb: 5♠ iyi baraj olacak gibi duruyor april7: 1NT by S and X by W XX by N or 2H transfer..p benjent: This should be fun! hikmetd: ...................oyun f_aydogdu: 4 h sorunsuz f_aydogdu: rahat deklere edip yaparlar baskanb: kamil abi disiplinli :) MolvaM: ilk 4 takˆ‰m nakavta kalacak baskanb: 1cl ye overcall eden ? april7 : N could make a trial bid because of 6 losers only and S might accept..1 atalok: bence d Q ˆ‰nˆ‰ saymazsak 13 var 2 H yeterdi april7: is it a genuian XX or some conventional bid?..p rodal f: 3 from N benjent: EW make 6♠, NS make 9 tricks in & irmek ˆ…zere evlerine dˆ¶necekler f_aydogdu: 4hrun sansˆ‰ vardi baskanb: bu elde 14 le 1nt aˆ§mak iyi sonuˆ§ verebilirdi deklaran 4 kˆ¶r tercih etseydi tersten karo kupunu almasˆ‰ defansˆ‰n zor olabilirdi bircan: deminki 3N’e aynˆ‰ atak geldi ˆ¶bˆ…r tarafta, muhtemel egale olacak benjent: I don’t like 4♠ from East here - much too good a hand..2♣ baskanb: etkin sorunun devamˆ‰nˆ‰ da cevaplad ˆ‰ :) baskanb: gˆ…zel 1 4 kˆ¶r izleyecez gibi duruyor atalok: 14 prd april7: good decision..p haans: conv rodal f: Why don’t E take a que/ anwansed que on his road? vahaboglu: herkese gˆ…naydˆ‰n vahaboglu: merhaba Fikret f_aydogdu: sgl abi baskanb : pik ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰nca 3nt yapˆ‰ labiliyor baskanb: ama ˆ imdi passtan gelen ele karˆ ˆ‰ tavˆ‰r almak zor baskanb: 2piki iyi sˆ¶yledi rakip 1 e 2 konuˆ urken fazla biˆ ey vaadetmez atalok: atalarˆ‰mˆ‰z 5 3 majorun varsa oyna demis vahaboglu: gene de Nevzat’ ˆ‰ temsilci gˆ¶ - 18 - Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) nderdik..3♣ baskanb: Merhabalarrr haans: off the trap :)))..p april7: now forcing or not? 2 before was better!! rodal f: Or the best.2NT benjent: And while I’m criticising the bidding, I’ m not wild about North’s negative X either. Skinny rodal f: After 4♠ all roads was closed to find the slam benjent : Yes, Khokan wouldn’t have been surprised to find that he was going down in 5♠ with 5♣ making despite his 3 aces rodal f: Would anyone have made an X in N over 2♣? arigun: merhaba burak baskanb: Nezih abinin passˆ‰ Forcing f_aydogdu: evet ustelik smolen yapilmis ve bu renk sende 2li rodal f: I don’t like it. Give E the 2NT free bid. Better to emty the hand by 3 ..3N f_aydogdu: eskiden maclarda milleti eler comandator yapardik su dustumuz hallere bak:)) senmel: ilginc duruma geldi april7: just making..p baskanb: mˆ…thiˆ sˆ¶yledi artˆ‰k 3nt oynarlar MolvaM: pazar sabahˆ‰ iˆ§in bu eller fazla dˆ… z. seyirciler ise kan gˆ¶vdeyi gˆ¶tˆ…rsˆ…n ister baskanb: evet ve damˆ‰nˆ‰ sayacaksak da o nt kontratˆ‰ iˆ§in deˆ erlyidi :) Walddk2: Old-fashioned limit raise, I like it..p bjacobs: stone age Acol ... works though vahaboglu: :) vahaboglu: herkes sˆ‰rayla deneyecek vahaboglu: hiˆ§ deˆ ilse elenmedik ya funtay: 6♣ oynamak mˆ…mkˆ…n bu eli ancak Terfler ve Karolar kotu dagilmiˆ ..p vugraphzuh: 1 3♣ 5-5 mis MolvaM: 1NTX uyanmak iˆ§in iyi bir seˆ§enek mesela arigun: oynanan kontrat makul lakin disarda koz dagilimi biraz nahos ckesgin: 1♠ 3 diyen ortak mˆ‰ gerekli 2 diyene de zon mˆ…mˆ…n mˆ… 5li majˆ¶rle Nt aˆ§arken buna bakmalˆ‰ baskanb: 1nt bence sakˆ‰ncalˆ‰ 5li M var ve aslardan oluˆ an 17 var f_aydogdu: bende 4hden yanayim caka maka kurtarabilir kaadi baskanb: ˆ¶zˆ…r zaten 15 varmˆ‰ˆ :) gurayserim: Fethiye - Major : 1-20 6 Bord benjent: I agree - if you’re going to make a bid, © © ¨ ¨ - 19 - make a useful one..♠8 rodal f: 4♠ in the other room senmel: difficult to bid 3 nt now senmel: diger oda muhtemel 2 ♠ oynar murat e: koz defansˆ‰ en iyisi ckesgin: 2♠ diyen ele de zon arayacaksak aˆ§ mamalˆ‰ 15 iken tamam bircan: nevzat abi iyi atak yaptˆ‰ ama ♠ten oyun sonu olacaklar muhtemelen f_aydogdu: tref bircan: bu kart tam DD problem f_aydogdu: kotu karara bunada batma potansiyeli var atalok: elden alˆ‰p cl R oynamasˆ‰ lazˆ‰m 9 love icin baskanb: 2 kˆ¶rˆ…n ˆ…stˆ…ne kˆ¶r ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰ lmasˆ‰ da sˆ¶zkonusu deˆ il..♠5 MolvaM: olmadˆ‰ arigun : orhanin elinden bir alternatif de 2 demek o zaman vera 2nt diyecekti baskanb: ˆ zel bir bilgi vereyim Hakan Abi ˆ§ok ˆ¶zel durumlar dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda koz ˆ§ˆ‰kmayˆ‰ tasvip etmez :) ckesgin: 3 boˆ ♣ korkutucuydu bu sekansta NT cide iyi ♣ olabilir ˆ§ˆ‰kmayˆ‰nca gidebilir dedi Hakan baskanb: piki elden alˆ‰r trefl T oynarsa sorunsuz vahaboglu : bu deklere iˆ§in Dbl yerine 2 ♠ , davet+ daha doˆ ru olurdu..♠6 f_aydogdu: seyirci arkadaslar ben aslinda galatasarayda oyuncuyum her nekadar trabzonlu olsakta orhan abiyi kˆ‰rmadik ama aldigim 3aylˆ‰k oynamama cezasˆ‰ eylul2 5de doluyor oyuzden oynamiyorum baskanb: bu deklarasyonda 1cl aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ ve belki ahunun 1nt si dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ndakilere katˆ‰lmˆ ‰yorum :) baskanb: Nezih zannˆ‰mca bˆ…lentin kontruna 5 kˆ¶r diyerek slam daveti yapmak iˆ§in pass dedi ama bˆ…lent aˆ ˆ‰rˆ‰ dengesizle 5 karo deyin anlam kargaˆ asˆ‰ doˆ muˆ olabilir vahaboglu: bazˆ‰ oyuncular bu Batˆ‰nˆ‰n elini 2 e sokabilir, ama 3 lˆ… fit davet elidir..♠ K f_aydogdu: abim benle oynuyoz gibi dusunuyo 4lu olabilir major sanˆ‰yor arigun: ama bu tip ellerle (ortagin davetini kabul etmeyecek) duzeltmeyi ben de sevmiyorum, muhtemel 4-3 (5-2) yerine iyi olmasa da fazla yukselmiyorsunuz baskanb: tekini ˆ§ˆ‰kmayan aˆ lar derler ama bu el iˆ§in deˆ ilmiˆ :) bircan: en iyisi elden ♣x oynamak, ama yerden © ¨ © Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) ne koyacaksˆ‰n senmel: iyi cesaret vx karo ile..♣T arigun: 3nt en guzel kontrat atalok: cl R DOGRUSU f_aydogdu: 10 tref iyi haans: finesse is ♠ all cards now in WEST..♣3 rodal f: But 2 are a bit better then 2 so no argue from me now:) vugraphzuh: 5h 2tarafdanda konturlandˆ‰:)..♣4 bircan: ♣10 a mutabˆ‰kˆ‰m baskanb: hele ki zon kontratlarˆ‰na gerˆ§ekten herˆ eye hakim deˆ ilken yani elin tˆ…m bilgisine sahip deˆ ilse asla koz ˆ§ˆ‰kmaz..♣A bircan: o bize mahsus baskan f_aydogdu: doru yapar baskanb: 2 karoya pass makul bence de..♠2 arigun: benzer dagilim, 8-10 civari olsa puan, 4 2ya ragmen 2 e duzeltmek lazim, ortagin 2NT’ suna 3NT diyebilecek ellerle atalok: buda aynˆ‰ oldu april7: all necessary cards are placed badly for declarer, so he will make only 8 tricks..♠A april7: W is somehow endplayede hikmetd: ˆ anakkaleye IMP ler geliyor ckesgin: 3 da diyebilirdi belki ˆ ´ imdi 4 e gelmelilerdi april7: disacrd..♠3..♠9 ckesgin: 2♣ pas neydi onu da bilmek lazˆ‰m ayrˆ‰ca ..♣K murat e : biliyorum 2-3 turnuva oynadˆ‰k beraber bodrum taraflarˆ‰nda daha yeni gracelin: Hi all, got time wrong, srry...♣5 baskanb: 1nt de 6 lˆ¶ve alˆ‰nabiliyordu baskanb: pass partaj karoya MolvaM: selamlar :)..♣6 atalok: bu arada 2 nonun deklerasyonu dogruymus cengiz 4 H demis ciddi ciddi.. T gurayserim: Fethiye - Major : 1-20 7 Bord vahaboglu: senin yokluˆ unu aramˆ‰yor yani.. A f_aydogdu: gel moral ver diyor pztesi gidecegim murat e: bˆ…lent yardˆ‰m ediyo baskanb: Paˆ ammm hg gel 2 ˆ§ift laf et millet benim saˆ§malamamdan bˆ‰kmˆ‰ˆ :).. 6 rodal f: Looks like an easy spot for 11?.. 5 arigun: ozgur bakan hosgeldin.. 2 ckesgin: 3♣ iyiydi ama bu elde 2♣ diyen daha kolay gelecekti 3nt ye hobakan: merhabalar herkese, baskanb: 3nt alternatiflerden biriyse demiˆ ti galba deˆ il mi bir briˆ§ bˆ…yˆ…ˆ ˆ…mˆ…z :) haans: you 31 imp late :)..♣2 ¨ © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © © © rodal f: Sr. I need a sigaret:( brb senmel: bord bitti gracelin: yes, missed all the drama..♣Q hikmetd: 5 IMP baskanb: Nuri abi Ankarada yaˆ ar ama hemˆ ehrimdir Nazillilidir burnu iyi koku alˆ‰r :)..♣ 8.. 3 atalok : yok yok kontur denmis operatorler duzeltmislerr f_aydogdu: orhan abinin de boyu uzundur ama yaramadi baskanb: olsun yine de Nuri Abinin burnu iyi koku alˆ‰r :) f_aydogdu: ayrica sansar lakabˆ‰ zuner: kˆ¶r oynarsa kurtarir yoksa hasan sqˆ…z.. A.. 3 atalok: sansar kapalˆ‰da 3 nt atmakla mesgul baskanb: bˆ…lent karo dˆ¶nse zorlayabilirlerdi.. 6 atalok: batmakla.. 2 hikmetd: veya 6 IMP vugraphzuh: ufak bir mola baskanb: Mehmet Ali abi bu eldeki oyunuyla bir tebrik haketti bence ˆ§ok basit gˆ¶rˆ…nmekle beraber dˆ…zgˆ…n bir kart oyunu gerektiriyordu kart gurayserim: Fethiye - Major : 1-20 8 Bord f_aydogdu: kesinlikle f_aydogdu: dogru f_aydogdu: yarisi batar bu kagˆ‰da bi turnuvada, © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © - 20 - Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) Board NS: EW: o 2 c 1N 6 this/total IMPs Ankara Uni. S.K. 4 32 Galatasaray S.K. 12 S 2 90 S -1 50 ¨ 6 6 ♠K 7 6 3 7 5 6 J10 7 6 8 ♣ Q J10 4 3 ♠ J10 5 N ♠A 8 4 10 7 4 3 Q98 2 W E KQ3 A95 S ♣K 8 5 ♣9 7 2 ♠Q 9 2 7 6-4 AK J 6 7 8642 6 ♣A 6 5-4 90 W: O.Ekinci W N: N.Cengiz Open E: N.Aydogdu S: C.Arigun N E S p 1 p 1N 1♠ 2♣ p 2 p p ¨ ¨ p p p ©4,5,Q,A ©J,7,ª6,©8 §Q,2,6,K ¨5,4,Q,7 ª9,T,¨J,ª4 #1 W:: #3 S:: #5 N:: #7 E:: #9 S:: ©K,3,ª3,©2 ©6,T,¨T,©9 ªJ,K,A,2 ª5,7,8,Q #2 S:: #4 S:: #6 W:: #8 W:: ahollan1: but pushes not helping Meltzer cause at this stage Vugraphu1: Berk asks Cohen if 1♠-3♠ (asking for a stopper for 3NT) is still on against EkeGran. Cohen says yes. Vugraphu1: Meanwhile, Granovetter & Ekeblad are discussing that maybe G should have raised spades ritong: the famous paki cue ahollan1: 1♣=16+ unbal or 18+bal..p ahollan1: 1 =8+ bal or something that doesn’t apply..1 ..p ritong: ordinarily, 1♠ 3♠ says " hey, i have a solid suit, do yoˆ u stop ♠s?"..1♠..p ahollan1: 2 =6+ ritong: zia found a way to use it more often..1N ahollan1 : and guarantees some singleton or void..p..2♣..2waycb xfer to !d..p..2 ! ¨ © ¨ © ¨ - 21 - mrace: or "i have s ♠ stopper, do u have a solid suit ?" :) ritong: for him, 1♠ 3♠ is " hey i ve got a ♠ stopper, do you have a solid suit?" ritong: hence the paki cue name ritong: btw, i m not sure paki is not a bit vulgar can you tell me, jan?..p..p..p ritong: if so, i apol my frenglish, u know.... 4 Vugraphu1: Granovetter says that 1 showed either 8+ balanced or some 3-suiters 12-14. Ekeblad then says "I’ll explain - he doesn’t have the 12-14 hand, so has some balanced 8+ and I have 6+ ... Vugraphu1: hearts. Given that, he signed off in 4 " ahollan1: i think 2 was RELAY and 2♠ said 1suit mrace: strong hand, and long trump being on board makes things easier for defence, though they dont have much to do on this one ... 5.. Q.. A.. K.. 3..♠3.. 2.. J.. 7..♠6 Vugraphu1: Eke wanted to go smoke and G said "don’t go smoke, it’s going to be a fast hand" Now he’s thinking and Eke is complaining mrace: lol.. 8.. 6.. T.. T.. 9 © © © © © © © © © © © © © ¨ © © © Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) Board NS: EW: o 2 c 1N 6 this/total IMPs Galatasaray S.K. 12 Ankara Uni. S.K. 4 32 S 2 90 S -1 50 ¨ 6 6 ♠K 7 6 3 7 5 6 J10 7 6 8 ♣ Q J10 4 3 ♠ J10 5 N ♠A 8 4 10 7 4 3 Q98 2 W E KQ3 A95 S ♣K 8 5 ♣9 7 2 ♠Q 9 2 7 6-4 AK J 6 7 8642 6 ♣A 6 5-4 90 W: O.Goksel W p p N: M.A.ince Closed S: M.Karadeni N E p p 1♠ p p © § ª ¨ © § © © §© § ¨ § ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ª § © ª ¨ ¨ E: A.Ozalp S 1 1N ¨ #1 W:: 7,5,Q,A #2 S:: Q,5,3,4 #3 S:: A,8,3,7 #4 S:: 6,K,4,2 #5 W:: J,K,A,2 #6 E:: 9,K,4, 6 #7 S:: 4,Q,7,9 #8 W:: T,7,8,9 #9 W:: T, T, 2,J #10 S:: 2,K,T,5 #11 W:: 3, J, 8,6 #12 E:: A,6,3,J #13 E:: 9, 8, 5,Q senmel: hosgeldin abi..♣Q..♣2..♣6..♣K..♠J.. ♠K..♠A..♠2.. 5.. 4.. Q.. 7..♠5..♠7..♠8.. ♠Q..♠9..♠T.. J..♠4 baylind: erdinin yorumlarˆ‰ cok ˆ…st sˆ‰nˆ‰f seyircilerin anlamasˆ‰ zor olabilir vugraphzuh: ˆ mer Kˆ‰zˆ‰lok hoˆ geldin vugraphzuh: Bora Belgˆ… Hoˆ geldin:) murat e: ˆ u daˆ gibi el 3 pik bile olmuyo ckesgin: ya Q denenmeliydi ♠ 1kaybedeckesek sorun olmazdˆ‰ 2 verirken kazanˆ‰rsa iyi olurdu MolvaM: hohohohho olurmu canˆ‰m. daha geˆ§ en gˆ…n birisi bana ˆ¶zelden sˆ¶yledi ˆ§ok saˆ§ malˆ‰yormuˆ um ben :) baskanb: sokakta da saksˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ ebilir yani baˆ ˆ‰mˆ‰za :) baylind: :)..p ¨ ¨ ª ¨ f_aydogdu: 6 h piki bulursa olur..1 baskanb: iˆ te kanlˆ‰ bi el paˆ am gˆ¶zˆ…n aydˆ ‰n f_aydogdu: bence 6ya gelecekler baskanb: 4♠ benjent : The card gods are sure smiling on Max..p f_aydogdu: sukriyeler 4hre gelir -1 hobakan: saˆ ol melihcim:) baskanb: sana da ˆ¶yle dedilerse bizim yorum hayatˆ‰mˆ‰z bitmiˆ demektir funtay: Murat Anter aramizda Hos geldin:)..1♠ emre kaya: 6♣ kapalˆ‰ elde iyi gibi duruyor ama batˆ‰yor maalesef MolvaM: :) april7: X and 1NT by S and 2 by W..p haans: noth nice responding gracelin: slam is good for NS, but they need to choose to play in Diamond rather than club rodal f: Bergen rais it looks like hobakan: gˆ…ney elinden 2pik mi? baskanb: 1♠ mi 2♣ mi bjacobs: Welcome Rodal - I see you are just 17 years old..1N rodal f: Lol:) Those ugly months. bjacobs: Hey, your psychology has worked on me. Can’t be bothered doing the math benjent: Lead philosophy test for Andy here - 4th, or try to find partner? vugrapha3: North just said e/w should be playin rubber baylind: pik pasˆ‰nda yapabiliyor emre MolvaM: ˆ§eyrek final 2. devreleri oynanˆ‰yor ˆ u an april7: there could be a slam..p gracelin : 6C is not a bad contract either but would fail on the 4-1 off-side trump split haans: did 2 show extra april7: are 3-3 so 12 tricks are coming in gracelin: south has an easy 3D to me. rodal f: And a nice stop at level 3 murat: teˆ ekkˆ…rler Tayfun abi, yazˆ‰yorum bir yere :) ckesgin: 3♠ murat e: hakan sinirlenicek iyice vugraphzuh: 2♣ baskanb: benim tercihim 1♠ den yana olurdu aˆ §ˆ‰kˆ§asˆ‰ benjent: I lead 4th (ie ♣) ... and so does Andy..p baskanb: ahu hemen merakˆ‰mˆ‰zˆ‰ gidersdi f_aydogdu: ahu ablam gonderdi hic ugrastirmadi baskanb: bu elden sonra keˆ ke yer 2 boˆ yerine © © © - 22 - Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) 3 boˆ pik aˆ§saydˆ‰ diye dua edebilir ahu f_aydogdu: as pik cˆ‰karak sorunu cozebilir MolvaM: ooo ilahi gˆ…ˆ§leri karˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰mayˆ‰ n maˆ§a baylind: as pik cˆ‰kacak bence vugraphzuh : internet baglantisindan dolayi deklereleri yaamadik. atalok: sukriye 2 cide bari 2 H deseydi april7: but in not in ♣..p haans: 3 may have been forcing baskanb: gˆ…zel kont dedi ben o kadar emin deˆ ilim :) ckesgin: 1♠ ˆ imdi de 3♣ baskanb: 3c april7: N should pass,S has 6-10 HP.. 7 bjacobs: An accurate looking contract rodal f: A normal spot but might a bit hard mrace: selam, hi all f_aydogdu: ben 5332 ellerle part skor oynumayˆ ‰ dusunuyosam transfer yapmiyoruˆ‰m p diyorum 1 ntye ckesgin: 3♣ burda oynamaya olacaktˆ‰ kesin april7: NS will probably play in♣ and not in .. 5 gracelin: ater the reverse, NS will bid at least a game april7: why not slam? haans: south say NO MORE North looking for slam baskanb : evet bu tip deklarasyonlara As ˆ§ ekmek iyi sonuˆ§ veriyor genelde baskanb: 3nt sorunsuz gibi duruyor ama 4 pik batacak bircan: 8 linin hikayesi vardˆ‰ bi zamanlar atalok: 3 sp f_aydogdu: konusma sˆ‰rasˆ‰ varken konusmamak sonra baska problemlere yol aciyor april7: S has only 5 tricks if defended correctly.. Q f_aydogdu: tref ataga orhan abi mecburen dam vale 10 dan karo doner ancak pik dam atagˆ‰da her an olabilir ckesgin: 5 tane biliniyor bilinmeseydi 2.5♠ arigun: nevzat burada ayni oruste degilim diyor fikret :) mrace: haha MolvaM: buˆ…nˆ… geride bitiren takˆ‰mlarˆ‰ n durumu telafi etmek iˆ§in yarˆ‰n sabah 16 board daha imkanlarˆ‰ var atalok: haydaaaa f_aydogdu: kavgada ilk yumrugu vuran avantajlˆ ‰ olurya onun gibi bisey ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ © - 23 - gurayserim: running scores http://www.tbricfed.org.tr /docs/bolgesel_haberler/2009/kuluplerarasi/ ceyrek_htm.htm baskanb: Nuri Abiye nazarˆ‰mˆ‰z deˆ di :( haans: we all been there.. A baskanb: 3 gurayserim: running scores http://www.tbricfed.org.tr /docs/bolgesel_haberler/2009/kuluplerarasi/ ceyrek_htm.htm hikmetd: 3 = 5li major yok, 4 lˆ… var..♠Q arigun: her iki taraftan oynanacak ♠ kontratina ♣ atagi endike gibi... 2♠’in uzerindeki butun kontratlar batacak baskanb: ˆ oˆ kun abi siz ne oynuyosunuz bu sekansta kontru murat e: zaten bˆ…lente kˆ‰zmˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰r bi el ˆ ¶ncesinden baskanb: Mehmet Ali abinin dˆ…zgˆ…n oyunu 12 ˆ MP kazandˆ‰rdˆ‰ april7: now slam for sure but where?..♠5 gracelin: 6D, bingo. haans: South not in slam mode f_aydogdu: rakip acisindan iyi sonuc veriyor aruf: 4♠ oluyor emre kaya: ˆ¶yle ama bence gelirlerse pik pasˆ‰ atmaz Nafiz abi baylind: 10-11 kˆ‰rmˆ‰zˆ‰ gosterirken rakip .. nafiz abinin tercihi pik pasˆ‰ olur baskanb: kantar atak oynuyolar muhtemelen MolvaM : kantar atak konusunda genel bilgi verelim MolvaM: kˆ‰rˆ‰k sekans olduˆ unda ˆ¶rneˆ in Q109 veya KJ10 gibi MolvaM: ˆ…ˆ§ˆ…ncˆ… kartˆ‰ ˆ§ˆ‰kma uygulamas ˆ‰na kantar atak deniyor genel olarak gracelin: but all south’s 11 HCP are in the right place...♠3 hikmetd: Double Dummy de 3NT= baskanb: erdiden mesaj var iletmek zorundayˆ‰ m cevap hakkˆ‰ doˆ du ˆ§ˆ…nkˆ… MolvaM: as ˆ§ekmenin en bˆ…yˆ…k yararˆ‰ alˆ ‰nacak as-rua varsa alabilmek f_aydogdu : as 3 bos as 4bostan cˆ‰kˆ‰p kazandigˆ‰mˆ‰ hatirlamam ckesgin: ˆ¶dˆ…l deˆ il MolvaM: bˆ¶ylece nezih kubaˆ§ ˆ imdi biliyorki ortaˆ ˆ‰nda karo Q109 april7: S actually could bid 6 , because without no slam posible,just to bad!!..♠4 haans: 6 was a make benjent: Finding partner is always entertaining, but everyone forgets the many many hands where ¨ © ¨ ¨ © ¨ Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) they blow a suit and the contract trying to do it vahaboglu: senle oynarken Nevzat ♠ Q mˆ‰ atak ederdi? ebeb: gerek kalmadˆ‰ paslara baylind: :) emre kaya: gerek kalmadi vugraphzuh: ˆ zgˆ…r Bakan hoˆ geldin hobakan: iyi akˆ amlar herkese:) vahaboglu: :)..♣A MolvaM: defansta oldukˆ§a yararlˆ‰ bir uygulama. amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa MolvaM: oynamaya baˆ lamadan ˆ¶nce ortaˆ ˆ‰n ˆ‰zla detay konuˆ un f_aydogdu: gozle yadin adami f_aydogdu : ozellikle 5 bossa tek risk ortak transferi 3 sweviyesinde alacak eli varsa oluyor.. ♣8 gurayserim: Fethiye - Major : 1-24 9 Bord senmel: hosgeldin ozgur abi..♣3 ebeb: iyi aksamlar bircan: baskan senle ilgisi yok... ben wodoo yaptˆ ‰m..♣7 rodal f: b:)..♣6 hikmetd: Fakat kapali ellerde zor:(( baskanb: kˆ¶r pozisyonunu bilirse yapabilir MolvaM: kantar atak yˆ…zˆ…nden yaˆ anan anlaˆ mazlˆ‰klar ˆ§ok pahalˆ‰ya patlayabilir MolvaM: eˆ er her iki oyuncu da aynˆ‰ dalga boyunda deˆ ilse MolvaM: kantar ismi nereden geliyo? ˆ…nlˆ… amerikalˆ‰ eski dˆ…nya ˆ ampiyonu Edwin Kantar’dan april7: yes,also..♣K gracelin: south chose 6Cbecause he hope his 3rd D can be pitched on north’s Hearts, in a hand like: x AJxx AKxxx AJx april7: bad luck though for NS f_aydogdu: evet o oyuzden orda Bˆ ZDE YORUM YAPˆ YORUZ..♣4 rodal f: Sr.Was told from a spec. Fit and ♠..♣2 baskanb: bu kontr konusunda ? baskanb: 9 anahtar kart bu ataˆ a karoyu 2 keserek 3nt yapˆ‰labiliyor kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k karo ataˆ ˆ‰na batar aruf: dagˆ‰lˆ‰mlarˆ‰ bilirse yapabilir..♠J baskanb : ayrˆ‰ca aynˆ‰ bilgiyi rakibe de vermiˆ olduˆ unuz iˆ§in rakip doˆ ru karar vermekte zorlanmayacaktˆ‰r o rengin pozisyonunda baskanb: aman Fikret Abi deme ˆ¶yle :) baskanb: belki kˆ‰salma oynuyla yapˆ‰labilir emin deˆ ilim ama ˆ¶yle oynanacaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ zannetmiyorum,..♠K ¨ hobakan: saˆ olun:) april7: same result as 2 © made, but not in a pairs tournament..♠A bjacobs: A trump lead might have caused some headaches I suppose..♠2 bircan: ♠ hikmetd: Double Dummy= 4 el aˆ§ik.. 9 f_aydogdu: normal kontrat 4 h aruf: ama yapmadˆ‰ f_aydogdu: yaptirmak icin ugrasiyo.. K f_aydogdu: yapti sanˆ‰rim vahaboglu: ˆ imdi olabilir iˆ te f_aydogdu: olabilir mi oldu vahaboglu: ♠ ekspasˆ‰na oynarken oyun olur f_aydogdu: ele ceksede vahaboglu: sadece mantˆ‰klˆ‰ olan oyundan bahsediyorum f_aydogdu: as rua ceksede ikisinede olur april7: very bad news.. 4 haans: and the sun went down arigun : ♣ Qj ˆ§ope gidiyor karsilikli puanlar uyumsuz cikti arigun: tespit etmesi o kadar kolay degil baskanb: dubble dummy yapˆ‰labilir belki evet gurayserim: Fethiye - Major : 1-32 10 Bord april7: Wgave a trick away..♠6 riyilikci: artˆ‰k yapma imkanˆ‰ kalmadˆ‰, muhtemel karo pasˆ‰ atˆ‰p 2 batacak f_aydogdu: simdide orhan abi kizarmistir baskanb: gerˆ§i tref dam alˆ‰nˆ‰nca hala pik d ˆ¶nˆ…lerek batˆ‰rˆ‰labiliyor galba vugrapha3: mistake, 1 o.. 4 vugrapha3: 1off benjent: Smolanko had an awkward pitch on the 3rd ♣ - which suit to encourage? He has an honour in each, and he wants partner to play none of them f_aydogdu: gurayda gercek bir canlˆ‰ yayˆ‰nc ˆ‰ murat: sorunsuz bir 4pik izliyoruz.. Q baskanb: yeniden merhaba baˆ lantˆ‰ sorunu vugraphzuh: kˆ‰sa bir mola.. 7 funtay : 1. bord batan 4 ♠ ye baraj yapilinca Antalya takimi 10 alacaˆ ina iki verdi murat: turnuva hakkˆ‰nda bize biraz bilgi verir misin Tayfun Abi ? f_aydogdu: uustelik sukriyede zonda yok rodal f: ♠ to play but loosers will come. Not winners enough.. 9..♠T hikmetd: evet hikmetd: as ve elden kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k -1 MolvaM: maˆ§ esnasˆ‰nda gˆ…ncel skorlarˆ‰ © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © - 24 - Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) anˆ‰nda gˆ¶rme ugulamasˆ‰ iˆ§in herhalde gˆ …ray serim e teˆ ekkˆ…r etmemiz gerek MolvaM: teˆ ekkˆ…r gˆ…ray :) ve TBF tabii baskanb: treflleri ˆ§ekerken bˆ…len T kˆ¶rle karo arasˆ‰nda kalˆ‰yo kˆ¶r pozisyonunu bilirse hala yapabilir baskanb: ˆ u anda kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k karo oynamasˆ‰ gerek bˆ…lentin vahaboglu: Ekinci, Nevzat’ aˆ zˆ‰nˆ‰ da aˆ§ maz..♠7 vugraphzuh: kˆ‰sa bir mola verildi baskanb: bˆ…lent ˆ…stˆ…ne dˆ…ˆ eni yaptˆ‰ MolvaM: herzaman dediˆ im gibi vugrafta ters empas atmak her zaman daha cazip gelir deklaranlara f_aydogdu: abi nedesek tersini yapiyolar..♠8..♠ 9.. T vahaboglu: batabilir rodal f : Got a page from Jane. The nice vug operator. http://www.bridgeunlimited.com/bridge /ViewMasterEvent2?code=09ANCT&header=abf There I belive u will find info witch are needed for the .....♣T rodal f: turney. hikmetd: ama seni duydu ve -2.. 2 vahaboglu: ˆ§akmaya giderken koz bˆ…yˆ… r.. J.. 2 f_aydogdu: yer sagdi vahaboglu: bizi ˆ aˆ ˆ‰rtmaya oynadˆ‰ MolvaM: bu durumda kˆ¶r dam empasˆ‰nˆ‰ herkes kuzeye atabilir ˆ¶nemli olan gˆ…neydeki k ˆ¶r damˆ‰nˆ‰ bulabilmek f_aydogdu: 6taneyse konusurdu rodal f: Reasaults from the turney so fare: http:// www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php.. K mrace: nevzat abeme laf soyletmem :) f_aydogdu: kucuk cakacak doru.. T arigun: 2 board acik odada gitti gitti geldi sonunda geyve 12 aldi.. 5 ckesgin: selamlar, daveti kabul etmeyeceksem transfer yapmˆ‰yorum biˆ§iminde benim de ˆ¶ nerim atalok: 930 baskanb: vapur saati mi abi :) atalok : takˆ‰m maclarˆ‰nda part skorlara kontur tehlikelidir ornegi idi gurayserim: running scores http://www.tbricfed.org.tr /docs/bolgesel_haberler/2009/kuluplerarasi/ ceyrek_htm.htm arigun: 8-10 lovelik bir kart oyunu farki cikti.. 3 hikmetd: eyvah -1..♣J.. 8 MolvaM: ˆ imdi durumu anlayacak mˆ‰ bakalˆ‰ © © ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ © - 25 - ¨ © © ¨ m deklaran.. 6.. A f_aydogdu: noluyo yorum yapmakta zorlanˆ‰ yorum kozlari alˆ‰p el acmadi.. 6 vahaboglu: 1 batara razˆ‰ oldu.. 3 baskanb: kˆ¶r on kafa karˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰rmak iˆ§in atˆ ‰ldˆ‰ :) f_aydogdu: bir batmisti abi zaten.. J..♣9 vahaboglu: 2 vahaboglu: haram para f_aydogdu: cok basit bi oyundu dam pik dusunce marka karistirdi sanˆ‰rˆ‰m f_aydogdu: su anada orhan abi nevzat gelsene karoyu falan diyordur ¨ ¨ ¨ Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) Board NS: EW: o 3 c 3N 7 ¨ 7 this/total IMPs Ankara Uni. S.K. 32 Galatasaray S.K. 5 17 E 3 110 W -1 100 5 ♠K 5 2 5 K10 5 2 6 3 9 8 ♣K 9 8 7 5 ♠ Q10 8 4 N ♠ A63 J984 Q3 W E K6 Q J10 8 5 4 3 S ♣ A J10 ♣Q ♠J97 8 7 A76 7 A72 9 ♣6 4 3 2 5 120 W: O.Ekinci W N: N.Cengiz Open E: N.Aydogdu S: C.Arigun N E S p p p 1 p 2 p p 3 p p ¨ ¨ ¨ p 1 2N p © ª9,T,5,6 §6,A,5,Q §T,7,¨5,§2 ©3,7,J,K ¨J,ª7,©8,§9 ªA,©6,ª4,2 #1 S:: #3 S:: #5 W:: #7 E:: #9 E:: #11 E:: ¨6,9,T,A ¨K,©5,¨4,2 ¨Q,7,§J,8 §K,¨3,§3,©4 ¨8,ªJ,©9,2 #2 W:: #4 W:: #6 E:: #8 N:: #10 E:: Vugraphu1: Berk: "I figured I’d better cover ¨ before we both ducked the second spade".. 8..♣ 5..♣Q ahollan1: 14-16..p..p mrace: Matthew is playing his most comfortable final set this year......p..1 ..p..1 ahollan1 : ♣ x would sure be adding insult to injury..p..2 ..p..2N..p..3 ..p..p ahollan1: but on this auction ♣ lead so bizarre Berk probably gets it right..p..♠9..♠T..♠5..♠6.. 6 ritong: ruff with ace and claim.. 9.. T.. A.. ♣6..♣A..♣5..♣Q.. K.. 5.. 4.. 2..♣T..♣7.. 5..♣2.. Q.. 7..♣J..♣8.. 3.. 7.. J.. K..♣ K.. 3 ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © Board NS: EW: o 3 c 3N 7 ¨ 7 this/total IMPs Galatasaray S.K. 5 17 Ankara Uni. S.K. 32 E 3 110 W -1 100 5 ♠K 5 2 5 K10 5 2 6 3 9 8 ♣K 9 8 7 5 ♠ Q10 8 4 N ♠ A63 J984 Q3 W E K6 Q J10 8 5 4 3 S ♣ A J10 ♣Q ♠J97 8 7 A76 7 A72 9 ♣6 4 3 2 5 120 W: O.Goksel W p 1 3N © N: M.A.ince Closed S: M.Karadeni N E p p p ¨ ¨ 1 2 p E: A.Ozalp S p p p p §7,Q,6,J #2 E::¨3,2,K,9 ¨6,§9,¨J,7 #4 E::¨T,A,©4,§5 ª7,Q,K,3 #6 N::ª5,6,J,4 ª9,T,2,A bjacobs: This is a juicy one..♣3..©4..¨J..♠7.. ©8..♣9..¨8..♠J..©9..©2..♠A..©6..♠4..♠2 #1 N:: #3 W:: #5 S:: #7 S:: Walddk2: Excellent slam rodal f : Sr was wrong. Here it comes: http:// www.bridgeunlimited.com/bridge/ViewMasterEvent2? code=09ANCT&header=abf hikmetd: udca oynadiklari iˆ§in valeyi atmaliydi arigun: ♠ disindaki coˆ u puanlar iˆ e yaramadi baskanb: 3karo ? zuner: 3nt yapˆ‰yorlar dersleler champ i: 4 nolu boardda hakan tabak 2 h e 3 h deyince 4 h ˆ… bulmuˆ lar doˆ ru konuˆ ma olmuˆ © baskanb: erdi sevenlerini selamlˆ‰yormuˆ ˆ¶ zellikle Bˆ…lenti (bilo) ˆ¶pˆ…yormuˆ baylind: saol erdicim f_aydogdu: 3 nt oynucakalr bence oda olur aruf: Rx Dx pike oynadˆ‰ baskanb: Rx Dx veya 3-3 pike yapˆ‰yordu - 26 - Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) arigun: ancak orijinal el ortagi by-pass yaparsa rodal f: First web was TV if u like to follow dif zon diyebilecek bir el, tamam 7 puan ama 2 bir As bir Papaz murat e: ˆ u an izmir aˆ§ˆ‰sˆ‰ndan bu masada i ˆ ler iyi gitmiyo ama her an herˆ ey deˆ iˆ ebilir baskanb : ama deklaran genˆ§ler dˆ…nya ˆ ampiyonu unutmamak gerek :) MolvaM: ama bence kafa karˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰rmaktan ˆ§ ok melih i ne yapmasˆ‰ gerektiˆ i konusunda uyardˆ‰ f_aydogdu: nafiz abiler baya geri dusmus gecen senenin sampiyonu ..p april7: 4 passes..p april7: S should have supported sometimes haans: agree haans: instead of 2♠ ckesgin: A ♣ A olsa bile umudumuz olurdu mrace: ns 4 ♠ sorunsuz gibi arigun: 2 yu bilen varmi, multi ? ekren ? f_aydogdu: 22 puan var ama cok 10 lu 9 lu var rodal f: I did not see the last cards at board 6. Should be 1 down normaly. What happend Bjˆ‚rn? ..p arigun: kursat ozsahin hosgeldin MolvaM2: 6. bord 3nt+2 oldu MolvaM2: ama skorlarda gˆ¶zˆ…kmˆ…yor MolvaM2: aˆ§-kapa yapmak gerekecek sanˆ‰rˆ ‰m gene MolvaM2: diˆ er masa ile baˆ lantˆ‰ kopmuˆ gibi duruyor siyabend: kusadasˆ‰ndan selamlar saygˆ‰lar baskanb: mrb selahattin abi hg :) siyabend: mrb mrace: sorry 3♠ f_aydogdu: 2h 2tref verecek atalok: 3 karo? baskanb: pik damˆ‰nˆ‰ oynamak biraz acele oldu sanki defans batˆ‰rˆ‰cˆ‰ lˆ¶veyi almakta zorlanacaktˆ‰ f_aydogdu: bence o 1ntyi yapacak lar april7: why 2 ♠ and not 3 ???..1 haans: but may promise 4 vbman: herkese selamlar siyabend: nˆ‰hayet problemlˆ‰ bir el geldi MolvaM: eˆ er kuzey kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k kˆ¶r atsa idi deklaran hala oyunu yapabilirdi ama bu ˆ§ok zor bir oyun tarzˆ‰nˆ‰ gerektiriyordu hikmetd: Sarikaya puan saymadan oynuyor..p mrace: 2 nt da daha cok alirlar baskanb: .. baskanb: karo karo oynasa batrˆ‰mak ˆ§okkk zor tables..1 funtay: 4 gurupta 8 er takim oynuyor ve guruplardaki ilk 4 takim nakavat maclarina kalicak baskanb: kuzey iˆ§in ˆ§ok zor el ckesgin: 3♠ den ˆ¶nce 2nt kontr vardˆ‰ ama.. ckesgin: pass olamaz Gden MolvaM: deklaranˆ‰n yere kˆ¶r ruaya gidip kˆ¶r 10luyu dˆ¶nmesi ve gˆ…neyin damˆ‰ ile kuzeyin 10lusunu aynˆ‰ anda yakalamasˆ‰ gerekecekti gracelin: 2s was alerted and was probably their system bid...p baskanb: tutucu bir pass ama iyi ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ acak gibi duruyor gracelin: ater south cashes two club tricks and shift to a D, north better duck this...2 bjacobs: Looks like Khokan is dispensing with science Walddk2: I am not particularly fond of Blackwood without a spade control rodal f: 2NT alerted? Tells more ♣? elivero: he, had kl 10 good,, ckesgin: kzo ne olsun? ihale kimde kalsˆ ´–n sorularˆ ´–nˆ ´– elimi nasˆ ´–l anlatayˆ ´–m dan ˆ ´ ¶nce sormayˆ ´–nca... vbman: bu bir kazanca benziyor hobakan : dˆ…n R8xxxx tane ile 5 deklere edilip yapˆ‰ldˆ‰.. 2 NT ye karˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰k ckesgin: B da 2♠ tercih etse uygun olurdu 11 siyahi ifade de baskanb: Nevzat abiden tam tersine agresif bir yaklaˆ ˆ‰m MolvaM: eˆ er movie’den bakarsanˆ‰z oyunun b ˆ¶yle yapˆ‰labileceˆ ini gˆ¶rˆ…rsˆ…nˆ…z ama bu oyunu yaparmˆ‰ydˆ‰ acaba melih? MolvaM : pardon yerden kˆ¶r vale dˆ¶nmesi gerekiyordu demeliydim baskanb: pik uygun daˆ ˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ kˆ¶rler 4-4 sorunsuz..p baskanb: 3♠ az bence baskanb: karo ataˆ ˆ‰na bir batˆ‰rˆ‰labiliyordu 3sp f_aydogdu: 3nt olabilir bu Walddk2: Most would have cue bid 4 I guess..3N benjent: I guess it’s Good/Bad 2NT - in this case, Bad champ i: 3 karo iˆ§in h as olmamalˆ‰ rodal f: OK. Order. Thx vug opp..p rodal f: Same contract at the other room elivero: it was nice played by east rodal f: May we say welcome to Roman:) roman505: Hello Rodal, Jacki ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ - 27 - ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) hikmetd: Yitik +1 yapabilir, eˆ er ¨ defansini bulamazlarsa funtay: maclar 20 bord murat: kozlar 4-0 fakat yine sorunsuz bir zon kontratˆ‰ f_aydogdu: iyi ve cabuk konustular f_aydogdu: uzatmadilar vahaboglu: oyun da ˆ§abuk olabilir vugraphzuh: masada hic konusma olmuyor MolvaM: neyse bence bˆ…lent in kˆ¶r 10lu atmas ˆ‰ biraz gereksiz bir alarm havasˆ‰ estirdi havada MolvaM: ve melih ˆ en durumu ˆ§ˆ¶zdˆ… baskanb: kaliteli &lˆ‰ renk tepe onˆ¶rlerden olu ˆ an 17 puanla anlaˆ malarˆ‰na gˆ¶re 3nt veya zon forcingi 3♣ demesi gerekirdi baskanb: 6lˆ‰ renk MolvaM: kuzeyin 4 pik yapmasˆ‰ iˆ§in ihtiyacˆ ‰ olan tek ˆ ey trefl Kxxxx ˆ¶rneˆ in bjacobs : Bagchi (West) is a brilliant bridge player ... he plays a very psychological sort of game, and 4NT doesn’t surprise me here..p rodal f: U can also go for the vug TV if u like and watch all matches: http://www.bridgeunlimited.com /bridge/ViewMasterEvent2?code=09ANCT& header=abf rodal f: the normal 11-14 NT and a nice balance from E ebeb: 11olur mu baskanb: Axxx pike 4 sp yapˆ‰labilir atalok: mersin takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰n diger ayagˆ‰ cok duzgun gidiyor bjacobs: However, I wonder if they have just had a Blackwood mixup..p hikmetd: :)) f_aydogdu: abimin eliyle cogu 1nt acmaz vahaboglu: Fikretle biz oynasaydˆ‰k kimbilir kendimizi 5♣ de mi bulurduk, 4 de mi ne..♣7 murat e: dam karo MolvaM: nezih kubaˆ§ˆ‰n pas geˆ§mesi gayet normal atalok: 3 nt oldu bile april7: must switch to otherwise makes..♣Q baskanb: kont bircan: bˆ…yˆ…k abi -2 diyo ama orhan abi daha bˆ…yˆ…k bi abi..♣6 vugraphzuh: South direktor cagirdi. baskanb: artˆ‰k yapˆ‰lamaz zira kart tutma sorunu da olmayacak deklaran karolarˆ‰ ˆ§ ekmek iˆ§in pik asˆ‰nˆ‰ oynamak zorunda gurayserim: Fethiye - Major : 1-34 11 Bord baskanb: ama 9 olmuˆ tabii © ¨ f_aydogdu: :))6 21 bjacobs: My guess is: ..♣J.. 3 bjacobs: "1430 strikes again" ... hate that convention rodal f: If first don’t woork try: http://www.bbotv.com ¨ /vugraph/ bjacobs: Pause for the post-mortem ... murat: sorunsuz sorunsuz gidiyoruz kˆ‰yˆ‰dan kˆ‰yˆ‰dan funtay: evet simdilik hareket yok f_aydogdu: ama 3 bile acan olabilir hobakan: ˆ…stelik defansta ADVX karo varken rodal f: Resaults from the turney so fare: http:// www.bridgeunlimited.com/bridge/ViewMasterEvent2? code=09ANCT&header=abf.. 2 funtay: biz yorumcular ve seyircilerin sevmedigi bir durum:) vbman: 5 cl biraz aˆ ˆ‰r bana gˆ¶re senmel: guneyin yerinde oturmak istemezdim arigun: skorlar simdi guncellendi emre kaya: artˆ‰k olmaz roman505: 3D typically agressive "early balance " from Michael Smart... K hikmetd: 7 li ataˆ ina ortaginda K dˆ…sˆ… nemedii mrace: 2 nt mu yoksa bekleyip dbl ( yada nt) mi tercihiniz west in eli ile ? .. 9 murat e: iˆ ler dˆ…zeliyo mu ne MolvaM : 4 pik kaˆ§ˆ‰rˆ‰ldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in birisine fatura kesilecekse bu Kuzey gracelin: The spade shift makes life easy for declarer.. 6 baskanb: boˆ lamanˆ‰n bi faydasˆ‰ yokmuˆ gibi duruyor ama yine de boˆ lamak gerek sanki haans: it happens..♣9 benjent: Cash a then 4th ♠ for 1 off rodal f: Y. Seems so. Pass withbad bid with a better hand hobakan: ˆ¶nce aslar sonra paslar der bˆ…yˆ… klerimiz:) baskanb: pik bilinirse Karo vale iˆ§erde olduˆ u i ˆ§in -2 kurtarˆ‰labiliyor benjent: Will Max get this right? Would N shift to a ♣ with ♣Q here?.. J vahaboglu: 10 lˆ¶ve dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda lˆ¶ve kalmaz f_aydogdu: y arigun: acik oda 2 board onde gidiyor biraz daha hizli oynaniyor, 19 no’lu boarddan basladilar f_aydogdu: 2nt riskli demem hikmetd: oynarsa iyi kart oyunu trendi yakalar.. 7 hikmetd: Yoksa defansa mahkum olacak baskanb: faturayˆ‰ Bˆ…lentin adrese evet.. T ¨ ¨ © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ - 28 - Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) baskanb: serbest konuˆ up 2 kˆ¶rde kalmˆ‰ˆ lar 9..♠T 4no da ama 2 kˆ¶r pass a katˆ‰lmˆ‰yorum takˆ ‰m maˆ§ˆ‰nda bu kadar olumsuz dˆ…ˆ ˆ… nmemek gerek bence rodal f: Missed the best def as Ben told. Let’s see if decerer fix up the problems now.. A rodal f: Nope rodal f: Never mind how declerer do it no there are to be 8 tricks MolvaM: diˆ er masada KG biraz daha anlaˆ malˆ ‰ gitmiˆ ler gibi rodal f: As I have been told Roman played with Smart in 2007. Correct?.. 4 roman505: Yes, and the team we beat in this event was SA! roman505: De Luca and Lusk played for SA then, but not the other four they have this year... ♣5 rodal f: By the quatre then I belive:) f_aydogdu: pik keseri yok belliki yalcˆ‰nda pikler ckesgin: gene 2 pas neydi demek lazˆ‰m daha da ˆ¶nce rdb a pas la 1 nun farkˆ‰nˆ‰ sormalˆ ‰ atalok: D murat: Geyve ilk maˆ§ˆ‰ 16-13 kazanmˆ‰ˆ ... ♠7 baskanb: ama karolar da kˆ‰rˆ‰k yani bazan da aˆ§ˆ‰nca iyi olur baskanb: "en iyi defans karoyu uygun zamanda alˆ‰p karo ile yere vererek tref asˆ‰na ulaˆ masˆ ‰nˆ‰n engellenmesi" seyirci yorumu :) atalok: buda guzel murat: Toplam 30 etmiyor farkˆ‰ndayˆ‰m....♠ Q vbman: cl ye k..♠K baskanb: :( bircan: konu kapandˆ‰... baskanb: bence net bir doˆ ru yok bu el iˆ§in..♠3 baskanb: o zaman da karolarˆ‰ ˆ§ekmeden ˆ¶ nce yerden pik oynayarak T koyuyor benim yorumum MolvaM: kalp kazanmak... ˆ imdi sen boˆ laki ileride o da sana boˆ lasˆ‰n...♠5 baskanb: :) baskanb: Vera-Orhan ˆ§ok dikkatli ve uzun dˆ… ˆ ˆ…nerek oynar :)..♠6 siyabend: erhanda sanˆ‰rˆ‰m onlardan geri kalmaz..♠J gracelin: on double dummy basis, even a Diamond shift and duck won’t beat 3H, declarer can cash tw spades and end-play north in Diamond..♠4..♠ vbman: ˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k koymak da acele galiba atalok: wd karadeniz haans: not a grave error..♠2..♠A hikmetd: en kˆ¶tˆ… defansi yaptilar murat e: 10 bile olmayacak ¨ © ¨ - 29 - ¨ Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) Board NS: EW: o 4♠ c 4♠ 8 8 this/total IMPs Ankara Uni. S.K. 32 Galatasaray S.K. 17 E 5 450 E 5 450 3 ♠K Q 2 652 2 6 J95 5 ♣ K Q10 9 3 ♠J84 N ♠ A10 7 6 3 2 J10 4 AQ87 W E K87 A3 S ♣A J 6 5 ♣7 ♠9 5 9 11 K93 11 Q10 6 4 2 6 ♣8 4 2 6-7 450 W: O.Ekinci W p 2♠ 4 4♠ ¨ ¨ ª N: N.Cengiz Open E: N.Aydogdu S: C.Arigun N E S p 1♠ p p 4♣ p p 4 p p p p © ª #1 S:: 2,7,J,A #2 E:: A,5,4,Q #3 E:: 2,9,J,K ahollan1: i wonder how close LC was to opening 1♣..p..p ahollan1: NS play Precision 2 so 1 =2+..1♠ ahollan1: yes -- AKQJ96 barely qualifies as 2+ :) ..p..2♠..p..4♣ ahollan1: 5 - about to be 6 pushes a 3 and 1 imp swing not the set Meltzer needed..p..4 ..p..4 ..p Vugraphu1: Berk: "got anything?" LC: "yeah, a strong club ... if you can get past that (the clubs) it’s pretty good harmon: fat lady warmed up..4♠..p..p Vugraphu1: Berk showed Eke his hand and said "tell me if I have you end-played with the AK of spades and K of hearts" Eke "no, don’t have K of hearts" So Berk said making 4..p ¨ ¨ ¨ © Board NS: EW: o 4♠ c 4♠ 8 8 this/total IMPs Galatasaray S.K. 17 Ankara Uni. S.K. 32 E 5 450 E 5 450 3 ♠K Q 2 652 2 6 J95 5 ♣ K Q10 9 3 ♠J84 N ♠ A10 7 6 3 2 J10 4 AQ87 W E K87 A3 S ♣A J 6 5 ♣7 ♠9 5 9 11 K93 11 Q10 6 4 2 6 ♣8 4 2 6-7 450 W: O.Goksel W p 1N 2♠ 4♠ N: M.A.ince Closed S: M.Karadeni N E 1♣ 1♠ p 2 p 3♠ p p ¨ § ª ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © E: A.Ozalp S p p p p © ª #1 S:: 2,K,5,3 #2 W:: J,2,7,K #3 S:: 2,A,9,7 #4 W:: 4,Q,A,5 #5 E:: 3,9,J,K april7: no, but the shift was mandatory if N has 3 ♣.. 2.. 7.. J.. A..♠A..♠5..♠4..♠Q..♠2..♠ 9..♠J..♠K Walddk2: There is nothing wrong with 1430, there is something wrong when one of you forget the responses Walddk2: *forgets benjent: Question about where this event leads... rodal f: For vug TV: http://www.bridgebase.com/ client/vugraph.php murat: Antalya BSK ise 22 kapmˆ‰ˆ f_aydogdu: bunlar cok balli f_aydogdu: cok puan geliyo f_aydogdu: 4h sorunsuz arigun: kaptan serhan yalvardi ozcan dayisina dbl demesin diye ama nafile :) siyabend : bu arada boˆ beklemiyelim diye fikrimizi beyan edelim vera nˆ‰n eliyle as altˆ‰ ndan cl atagˆ‰na ne dersiniz bircan: bu arada bˆ…yˆ…k abiden kastˆ‰mˆ‰z - 30 - Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) deep finesse programˆ‰ baskanb: evet ˆ§ok doˆ ru bi analiz ama psikolojik faktˆ¶rler masada her zaman doˆ ru analizleri yapmamˆ‰za mani olabiliyor MolvaM: en iyi ˆ§ˆ¶zˆ…m 2♣ deklaresini kesin forsing olarak oynamayˆ‰ gerektiren gazilli konvansiyonu april7: although bad ♠ position, still 10 tricks in 4 ♠..p haans: needed for ruffi8ng gracelin: if north’s first club spot showed count, then the 2nd one could be for suit preference april7: but then its to late roman505: The rest of our team were all under 30, Nye-Ware and Geromboux-Griffiths yusufb: herkese eskiˆ ehirden selamlarrr hikmetd: Aˆ§ik oda da Akgˆ…n ♠ pasi yapmamis: (( senmel: soylersek oluyor ama gelebilirmiyiz? arigun: north ellerinin defansi zor geliyor bu tur.... acik oda 2 nolu boardun defansi da North elinde idi baskanb: izleyicilerimizden sayˆ‰n "istdem" e katkˆ‰larˆ‰ndan dolayˆ‰ teˆ ekkˆ…r ediyorum :) baskanb: yorumu interaktif hale getirebildik mi acaba :) riyilikci: hg Yusuf..1♣ baskanb: evet 1 karo uygun deˆ il gibi duruyor baˆ ka oyun alternatifleri olabilir april7: e goes all the way..1♠ gracelin : at least let declarer find the double dummy play benjent: The Australian system awards Playoff Points for wins and high finishes in national events yusufb: hoˆ bulduk rahmi baskanb: 5dia MolvaM: yaptˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰m araˆ tˆ‰rmalar sonucuna gˆ¶re ˆ ikansˆ‰z ˆ lemleri kaˆ§ˆ‰rmˆ‰yor kimse ckesgin: hep hˆ…cˆ…m kazanˆ‰yor gˆ¶rˆ…nˆ …ˆ te 1 dan 500 vardˆ‰ ama raˆ bet gˆ¶rmedi baskanb: bu arada Mesut abiye de wd rodal f: 2NT are to hard in S now but would have woorked..p benjent: Afetr a bruising year, we have a playoff for the national team(s) amongst the highest playoff-point-scorers hikmetd: selam Yusuf baskanb: 4 kˆ¶r yapˆ‰labiliyo bu elde baskanb: ama sˆ¶ylenemez gurayserim: Fethiye - Major : 1-34 12 Bord ¨ - 31 - bjacobs: I spent around 30 years "learning" 3014 ... my brain has only a set number of system changes in it, and I am not going to spend one of them on this pointless exercise..1N rodal f : Agree Roland. Normaly 1403 fit the cards better the 0314 rodal f: Will be a + for NS anyway I belive:) aruf: 6 e gelmek cok zor senmel: cok kˆ‰imetli bir el silem icin MolvaM: muhtemelen diˆ er masadaki deklarasyon da ˆ¶yle gitmiˆ vugraphzuh: bu konvansˆ‰yonu oynuyor kuzey guney vugraphzuh: ama limitlerde hemfikir deˆ iller MolvaM: 1 majˆ¶r aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰na 1nt geldiˆ inde eˆ er eliniz zona yakˆ‰n kuvvette ise 2c diyorsunuz rodal f: A practic bid..p baskanb: 2 pike pass ? baskanb: panele dˆ¶nelim MolvaM: keycardlarˆ‰ sordun mu rahatsˆ‰n april7: N is wondering whats going on..2 haans: 4NT? benjent: The winners of this event get about 3/4 of the points needed for the playoff kiddd: ??? ckesgin: G 4♣ diyebilirdi ckesgin: 4♠ e ne yapacaklarˆ‰na yardˆ‰mcˆ‰ olmasˆ‰ iˆ§in ckesgin: 4 ile 1 uygundu 1 ya MolvaM: bunun 2 anlamˆ‰ var vahaboglu: davet veya daha iyi sekanslarˆ‰ yok herhalde..p MolvaM: 3♣ ne acaba siyabend : hucum kazanˆ‰yor birolda atak oynuyor MolvaM: ya gerˆ§ekten minimum el ve trefller veya kuvvetli herhangi bir el f_aydogdu: 3nt gelecekler haans: clubs + shorter diamond..2♠ bjacobs: My wife plays 1430 except in clubs. My comment is: "what a schemozzle" rodal f: Got the spot. vugrapha3: better :) funtay: Kepekˆ§i oyuna hareket getirmeye gayret ediyor:) aruf: bide kˆ¶rˆ… bulmak ayrˆ‰ biˆ ey :) baylind: panel 4 eli gorunce pass diyor f_aydogdu: tamer bey cok saglamci baskanb: merci :) MolvaM: daveti kabul edecek elmiˆ f_aydogdu: koz MolvaM: cevapˆ§ˆ‰ 2 trefle pasgeˆ§meyip birˆ © © © © ¨ Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) eyler sˆ¶ylemek zorunda MolvaM: ˆ imdi aˆ§ˆ‰cˆ‰ elini anlatˆ‰yor ve ne oynayacaklarˆ‰na karar veriyorlar siyabend: ewet guzel bir defans ornegiydi april7: 2 down on ♣ lead..p hikmetd: ˆ ikani nasil gˆ¶sterecek bakalim, f_aydogdu: yok dun gece telefon actim lokantada calisiyolardi hobakan: eˆ itken ucuz rengi tercih etmek gibi bir teamˆ…l var ama.... arigun: ♠ partaj olunca ve Q uygun ♠ ile kotratinin farki kalmadi hobakan : onˆ¶rlˆ… olanˆ‰n tercih edilmesi gayet doˆ al MolvaM: seyircilerden bilgi geldi teˆ ekkˆ…rler siyabend: guzel bir slem olacak MolvaM: 4nt yi kim soracak diye birbirlerine ikramda bulunuyorlar murat e: baˆ tan 2 bord fena gidince biraz moraller bozuldu sanˆ‰rˆ‰m ama daha ˆ§ok var dˆ… zelmeleri lazˆ‰m murat e : rakip pik pik derse bˆ…lent el deˆ erlendirebilir.... baskanb: 2kˆ¶r yeterliydi bence f_aydogdu: bencede rodal f: De Luca trying to put sand in the machine..3 © © ♠ hikmetd: Gˆ¶steremezsse & diyemezler murat: saˆ olsun.. :) funtay: 14 puan ve 5 card major ile 1NT arigun: yani super bir slam arigun: seyircilerde infial var ama normaldir bu tur hatalar arkadaslar baskanb: Eski partnerlikleri olmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in ortaˆ ˆ‰n yanlˆ‰ˆ anlayabileceˆ i sekanslardan uzak drumayˆ‰ tercih ediyorlardˆ‰r ckesgin: G deki ♣ le larˆ‰ deˆ iˆ tirelim 4♣ 4 nˆ‰n K iˆ§in ne kadr ufuk aˆ§ˆ‰cˆ‰ olacaˆ ˆ‰... murat e: yani murat e: ˆ ilem murat e: iˆ§in MolvaM: yani okay gˆ…r ve gˆ¶khan yˆ‰lmaz di ˆ er masada bu konvansiyonun bir tanˆ‰tˆ‰mˆ ‰nˆ‰ yaptˆ‰lar o elde hikmetd: gˆ…zel..p hikmetd: Naturel alirsa :(( ben karismam hikmetd: ˆ¶yle bile olsa 6 e dˆ…zeltir hikmetd: Kapali oda link ten yana ˆ anssiz :(( vugraphzuh: Batˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor hikmetd: 4 alert edilmiˆ murat: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams_ ¨ ¨ © ¨ event.php?event=198&stage=435 vahaboglu: fazla yapmaya uˆ raˆ mazsa sorun yok baskanb: 3nt de uygun baskanb: ben 2nt pass a katˆ‰lmˆ‰yorum champ i: evet 3 nt demek lkazˆ‰m april7: ♣ switch!!..4♠ haans: what has happened to Blackwood you may ask? finding game more important april7: it makes on a non ♣ lead yusufb: trekrar merhaba baskanb: Kx kˆ¶r gˆ…zel pikte de marka var takˆ ‰m maˆ§ˆ‰nda sˆ¶ylemek gerek diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ… nˆ…yorum zuner: hasan gˆ…ner disiplinli oyuncudur..birsey dˆ…sˆ…nmˆ…stˆ…r dememek iˆ§in arigun: hepimiz her an yapabiliyoruz baskanb: 3nt fena kontrat deˆ il ama batˆ‰rˆ‰ lacaktˆ‰r muhtemelen :) siyabend : deklaranˆ‰ tamamˆ‰yle tercihe zorladˆ‰ rodal f: And next by 11 I belive..p Walddk2: 11 o’clock? arigun: otelde internet baglantisi maalesef cok kotu bir turlu dikis tutmadi MolvaM: eskiˆ ehirde birisi ara sˆ‰ra internet kablosunun ˆ…stˆ…ne basˆ‰yor sanˆ‰rˆ‰m baskanb: sˆ…r elin tarifini tamamlamˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰ orhan abi basitˆ§e pass dedi :) gracelin: declarer still needs to guess spade..p yusufb: 6 tek sayˆ‰da keycard ve siganˆ‰ gosteriyo atalok: 3 nt h oynanmazsa yaptˆ‰rˆ‰lˆ‰r buda cl as alˆ‰nmazsa olur bjacobs: Rodal, I reckon you would be great on Twitter..p baskanb: elbette bi dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ncesi vardˆ‰r :) baskanb: anlatamadˆ‰m kuzeyin elinden 2 pike pass ? MolvaM: ˆ lem elini diˆ er oda 5 kˆ¶r oynuyor MolvaM: henskor eˆ itlenecek MolvaM: hatta hendek ˆ¶ne geˆ§iyor begse: bu lˆ¶vede karo yerine kˆ¶r dˆ¶nˆ…lse 2 ♠ batˆ‰yordu herkese gnd baskanb: Nafiz abi hg :) MolvaM: gˆ…naydˆ‰n sn nafiz zorlu :) benjent: Good X of 4♠ by Smolanko to get his side in the game.. 2 roman505: Another straightforward hand after the early excitement, but I think we will have more to come hikmetd: = ¨ ¨ ¨ - 32 - Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) f_aydogdu: 3nt 3h den daha iyi april7: low high signal!.. K champ i: ikili oynarken olurda burak ’ ˆ‰n dediˆ ¨ i gibi ama takˆ‰mda bencede 3 demek lazˆ‰m siyabend: benim ˆ ansˆ‰mdanda olabilir cengiz arigun: belkide selahattin :) arigun: deklerer edilmesi ve oynanmasi cok zor olmaya bir slam arigun: bu elde en cok dusunen vera oldu atak icin :) arigun: aceba kontratin kaderi benim atiagima mi bagli diye dusunuyordur :) yusufb: 6♠ sorunsuz .. 5.. 3 murat: bu ataktan sonra Kepekli 11 el alacak f_aydogdu: orhan abi biliyosun hep lokantada bric calisir f_aydogdu: kucuk karo oynasin f_aydogdu: en iyi oyun o MolvaM: karo pasˆ‰ tutmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in yapacak birˆ ey yok zuner: 2 kˆ¶re 2 pik demedi..piklerinde yetersiz oldugunu dˆ…sˆ…ndˆ… bence..1nt 5 li pik ˆ§ˆ… nkˆ….. J baskanb: evet ama neticede 24-25 puan var ve ˆ§ alˆ‰ˆ abilecek renklere sahibiz arigun: ya karar vermi,sti de 10’lu mu 8 li mi diye dusunuyordu MolvaM: kim dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor MolvaM: yoksa gene kopmak ˆ…zere miyiz vugraphzuh : yok ufak bir ara verildi ˆ imdi oyuncular tekrar yerlerinde arigun: yorgunluk... sabah maci.. biran konsantrasyon bozulmasi MolvaM: ama makul kontrat rodal f: Y. But I belive 4 ♠ are -1 so + already after the bid from W.. 2 MolvaM: nezih te ˆ u an empasˆ‰n tutmayacaˆ ˆ ‰nˆ‰ tahmin ediyor ve rodal f: 0230 in Denmark.. 7 vugrapha3: 11:30 rodal f: Nearly as they should have bidded 3NT arigun: olabiliyor baskanb : elbette bu elde 3 ♣ de diyebilirdi Hakan Abi ama pik rusˆ‰nˆ‰ deˆ ersiz gˆ¶rerek 4 kˆ¶rˆ… yeterli buldu gracelin: because after 3 rounds of trump, he has only one trump left and has two losers to cover.. K bjacobs: My watch must be fast ... hikmetd: claim zamani ckesgin: 4 savunma istemeyen el olmalˆ ´– zuner: savunmuyorum ama saygi duyuyorum ¨ ¨ © ¨ © © © ¨ - 33 - gurayserim: running scores http://www.tbricfed.org.tr /docs/bolgesel_haberler/2009/kuluplerarasi/ ceyrek_htm.htm baskanb : ortaklarˆ‰n birbirleriyle yarˆ‰ˆ mayacaklarˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…ldˆ…ˆ ˆ…nde bu sekanstaki 2kˆ¶r yapˆ‰cˆ‰ eldir ayrˆ‰ca tek trefl ver renk kalitesi sorunlarˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…ld ˆ…ˆ ˆ…nde abartˆ‰lacak bi el deˆ il atalok: burdaki 2 H ence yanlˆ‰s 2cl daha dogru idi cunku 2 H PAS PAS Gˆ DEBˆ Lˆ RDˆ haans: they almost made 4 almost..♣2 vahaboglu: Ekinci, Merze’ nin apellerine pek gˆ …veniyor zuner: dengesiz el oldugunu dˆ…sˆ…ndˆ…..♣A f_aydogdu: gnd abi ckesgin: aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ 3.den olmasaydˆ‰ 2NT derdi bence MolvaM: acaba buna alabilecek ˆ¶nlem var mˆ‰ diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor april7: its agood save against 4 ♠..♣9..♣7 april7: can’t duck this and take second, then must also duck second f_aydogdu: kesikmisin f_aydogdu: bencede az konuˆ tu o el siyabend: slm..♠4 senmel: diger odada da ayni hata oldu 2H oynanirken begse: karo geˆ§iˆ kalsa 4 cˆ… kˆ¶r kozu terfi ettirecekti..♠Q gracelin: if West wins this and shift to Heart, north needs to take HA and play a spade to A immediately, ..♠A f_aydogdu: boyuda uzundur orhan abinin april7: y..♠5..♠3 haans: decl knows (:) wast hane only 1 spade rodal f: 20 looks like a might funny board..♠9 vahaboglu: :) zuner: kˆ¶r 3-3 ˆ§ikiyor..olmayabilirde gracelin: it’s too late after find out clubs don’t break..♠J rodal f: Might Bill. Are not inside that web page:) Walddk2: what happened to the 10 minutes? do you just dump them in Oz? senmel: her iki taraf icin de normal..♠K baskanb: ˆ uanki durum iˆ§in © Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) Board NS: EW: o 4♠ c 3 © 9 9 this/total IMPs Ankara Uni. S.K. 32 Galatasaray S.K. 2 19 E -1 100 S 4 170 4 ♠10 3 4 J 42 8 6 K J10 3 7 ♣ J10 9 3 ♠A 9 4 N ♠KQ875 2 Q7 K6 W E 9852 A76 S ♣A 5 4 2 ♣76 ♠J6 9 9 A10 9 8 5 3 5 Q4 7 ♣KQ8 6 -300 W: O.Ekinci W Vugraphu1: Cohen asks G, who is now in Ekeblad ’s seat, "you like your partner’s bidding?"..p ritong: friendly game..p..♣K..♣2..♣J ahollan1: hehe ahollan1: that is great to hear -- keep it coming Jan and keep it up players..♣7..♣Q..♣A..♣3 Vugraphu1: G: "good thing you kept me low, pard; the way I’m playing it and the way they’re defending"..♣6..♠4..♠3..♠K..♠6.. 6.. 3.. Q.. 4..♣4..♣9..♠7..♣8.. A.. 4.. 2.. 3..♠ 2..♠J © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ N: N.Cengiz Open E: N.Aydogdu S: C.Arigun N E S p 1♠ 2 p 2N p p p p © 2♠ 4♠ §K,2,J,7 ª4,3,K,6 §4,9,ª7,§8 ª2,J,A,T ¨Q,5,K,6 #1 S:: #3 W:: #5 W:: #7 E:: #9 S:: § © ¨ © ¨ #2 S:: Q,A,3,6 #4 E:: 6,3,Q,4 #6 E:: A,4,2,3 #8 W:: 7,2,K,A #10 N:: J,,, ahollan1: at this stage, we’ll see a lot of claims © like that..p..1♠..2 ..2♠ can have longer ♠ or ♣, but not ..p..2N ahollan1: this just 12-14 BAL..p Vugraphu1: Eke alerted 1♠ and said it’s natural but usually not game forcing ahollan1: but key note 1♠ = NOT FORCE ahollan1: Eke could be 4441♠ for this sequence..4 ♠..p Vugraphu1: They’ve been encouraging Granovetter to bid 2♠ so he’d be declarer. Now Cohen says " he can play it if you want" and Granovetter has come over to be declarer so Ekeblad can go ... Vugraphu1: smoke. Vugraphu1: Cohen just asked me if this was a first in Spingold history (having the dummy play the hand) ahollan1: ¨ © - 34 - Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) Board NS: EW: o 4♠ c 3 © 9 9 this/total IMPs Galatasaray S.K. 2 19 Ankara Uni. S.K. 32 E -1 100 S 4 170 4 ♠10 3 4 J 42 8 6 K J10 3 7 ♣ J10 9 3 ♠A 9 4 N ♠KQ875 2 Q7 K6 W E 9852 A76 S ♣A 5 4 2 ♣76 ♠J6 9 9 A10 9 8 5 3 5 Q4 7 ♣KQ8 6 -300 W: O.Goksel W N: M.A.ince Closed S: M.Karadeni N E p 1♠ 3 p © 2♠ p © § ¨ ª ¨ ¨ § ¨ E: A.Ozalp S 2 p © © § ª ª § ª © © ¨ © ª #1 W:: 7,2,6,8 #2 S:: A,Q,J,K #3 S:: K,2,3,6 #4 S:: Q,4,9,7 #5 S:: 4,2,K,A #6 E:: K,6,4,3 #7 E:: 8,J,A,T #8 W:: 9, T, Q, 9 #9 S:: Q,5,3,6 #10 S:: 3, 8, 4, 5 #11 N:: T,7, 8, 9 april7: its on a finesse, which is unfortunately wrong, I mean 5 ♣..♠A..♠T.. 7.. 2.. K.. A.. Q.. 5.. K.. 6.. J benjent: All finished in the other room, but 2 left here hikmetd: 7 baraji sikam alertinden sonra hep yapilmali bence vugraphzuh: sˆ‰ksˆ‰k baˆ lantˆ‰ problemiyle karˆ ˆ‰laˆ ˆ‰yoruz baskanb: ne gˆ…zel uzun vadede kazanan yolda demek ki :) zuner: kaldiki banada yapiyor :)))) hehehehehe zuner: niye demedin diyorum..demem diyor :) baskanb: 6karo begse: 12 kiˆ iyiz zaten son 2 maˆ§ oynamadˆ‰k bu tur bye sonuncuyuda oynamayˆ‰z herhalde baskanb: geniˆ kadronun avantajlarˆ‰ :) f_aydogdu: derseler 4h olur pik rua uctundan ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 35 - ¨ © © © © f_aydogdu: rakipte 4sp 2batar gerci arigun: bizim ne dedigimizin pek bir onemi yok, tek oluru ise mactan sonra takim arkadaslarinin ne diyecegi onemli murat e: 7 numarada ˆ…ˆ§ sanzatuya tersten karo atak oldu batabilir murat e: aˆ§ˆ‰k odada baskanb: Tezcan ataˆ a vale koyarak ˆ§ˆ¶zebilirdi Karo Rua ve pik As elindeyken sorunsuz f_aydogdu: ortagˆ‰n 2trefi limitse f_aydogdu: buda 4 pik btn ama 3nt olan bi el gracelin: if spades break 4-1, it’s 3 : 2 that west’s singleton is a small one rather than an honor...p haans: 2nt almost forcing nowday april7: only3NT..1♠ baskanb: bence sˆ¶ylenir ckesgin: 3♣ f_aydogdu: tabiiki kapali kaadda 4sp oynanacak baskanb: bence 3 pik oynanacak april7: N will open..2 zuner: evet oluyor april7: if its not GF then W will pass 2NT..2♠ elivero: hi was in game direct,,is that normal bid? rodal f: Sa 10 - ACT 30 so fare at the set, and a new leader rodal f: For people who are interested at resaults from J26 Europa: http://www.eurobridge.org/ competitions/09Brasov/Asp/RoundTeams.asp? qtournid=732&qroundno=22 murat: 1NT aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ seti gibi murat: bu elde biraz hareket var neyse ki vahaboglu: 2 = majˆ¶rler herhalde baskanb: ama artˆ‰k sˆ¶ylemek imkansˆ‰z :( baskanb: 1nt aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰yla hemfikir deˆ ilim arigun: arada surekli biiiiip olan bir suru konusma olur f_aydogdu: gerci masada 2h demem f_aydogdu: olabilir f_aydogdu: 2sp deyince gurayserim: Fethiye - Major : 1-49 13 Bord baskanb : iki tarafta 2li kˆ¶r onˆ¶rlerini beˆ enmeyip alttan alacak 2 kˆ¶r overcallundan sonra zuner: kamil abinin sagi solu belli olmaz:)..3 champ i: 2 nt aˆ§sa kimse biˆ ey demez baskanb: bu 3cl nin alertˆ… soralˆ‰m vugrapha ? april7: N could bid now a preemtive 3♣,not 2..p benjent: Bookallil-Fischer won’t like their finish in the Open Room - 22 imps out rodal f: Nice on bad ♣ of rodal f: ♠ roman505: Everything lay well for declarer on the last hand, but biding 3NT was unlikely on © © © © Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) their auction. roman505: SA may reach three here though. yusufb: toplam 32 takˆ‰m var ve takˆ‰mlar 4 erli 8 gruba ayrˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ durumda gruplarda ma ˆ§lar 20 ˆ er bord olmak ˆ…zere toplam 7 tane ilk 4 sˆ‰rayˆ‰ alan takˆ‰mlar bir ˆ…st tura cˆ‰ kacak funtay: 4 ? f_aydogdu: he baskanb: 3kˆ¶r davet galiba :) ckesgin: bu alert edildi mi 3 ? vugraphzuh: blokatˆ‰f olarak alert edˆ‰ldˆ‰ f_aydogdu: biraz sora guray fethiye major 1 59 13 boord yazacak ole gidiyo Walddk2: negative = spades..p rodal f: For set the contract down it was needed a ♠ lead I belive f_aydogdu: ar pik f_aydogdu: pik f_aydogdu: gider abim 2ye kadar batabilir haans: but do they have 8 but not 9???..p gracelin: depending on the range of 2NT vahaboglu: empasˆ‰ yaparsa 1 batar f_aydogdu: efet begse : oyuncu 3 derse daha yapˆ‰cˆ‰ el bildiririm diye korktu ama rekabette kaˆ§ˆ‰yor partneri 3nt derdi o da yaptˆ‰rˆ‰lailir vugraphzuh: 7-9 4lu fit baskanb: evet trefi alˆ‰nca kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k karo oynayarak batˆ‰rabilir gibi duruyor vugraphzuh: ufak bir mola atakdan ˆ¶nce baskanb: 6 noda diˆ er odada bir anlaˆ mazlˆ‰k olmuˆ olmasˆ‰ kuvvetle muhtemel :) siyabend: izmir BS biraz rahatladˆ‰ murat e: salvo-nafiz batˆ‰rdˆ‰lar i baskanb: kamil abi ˆ§ok tutucu davrandˆ‰ ˆ§ok kaliteli bir renk yanda aslarla beraber 17 sayˆ‰.. 7 f_aydogdu: 2 hde kalmak enterasan 4 demek lazim gibi baskanb: trefl cebid inin dummy de olduˆ una dair net bi endikasyon varsa dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…lebilir ama bu deklarasyonda cengiz abinin dediˆ i gibi tek bien olabilir arigun: herne kadar dengeli 14-9 olsa da markalar cok iyi atalok: mersin 4 elde topladˆ‰gˆ‰ 11 imp i su anda 6 nolu borda harcayacak herhelde april7: then S might stop in 4.. 2 roman505: If they do, it may wrap up the match roman505: No! murat: 2♣ majˆ¶rler, 2 iyisini sˆ¶yle © © © ¨ © © ¨ MolvaM : diˆ er masada ˆ¶zgˆ…r bakan 4 ©X oynuyor funtay: eger 5-5 majoru biliyorsa bid mˆ…mkˆ… n.. 6 vugraphzuh: Batˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor aruf: zonda iyimser blokatif yapˆ‰yorlar sanˆ‰r ˆ‰m mrace: 3 nt sansli, oluyor atalok: hocalar sp korden buyuk derler bide gracelin: West will bid game if 2NT shows 22+.. 8 april7: then its GF, but with 22??? haans: 3♣ easy puppet Walddk2: 10 or 11 tricks depending on how well he guesses hearts rodal f: Are home now f_aydogdu: ekpasa 2 champ i: 1 karo sonra 2 nt belki 6 karo zorlanabilir baskanb: 3 daha uygun gibi f_aydogdu: oldu f_aydogdu: simdi yumurtaya can veren allahim yorumunu yapmak ist,iyorum:)) f_aydogdu: kritik boord ama olma sansi yuksek.. A f_aydogdu: bir iki iki topladi birden verecek april7: but 5 is ok, Qof could be ok.. Q Walddk2: Clubs a non-issue on this layout benjent: I wonder if Smolanko had a little try for game, and gave it up after a 2 minimum response rodal f: NS to gain 1 IMP more? benjent : I think so - looks like 9 tricks are available rodal f: New .. J hikmetd: +1 yusufb: kalan 16 takˆ‰m 16*3 48 bord nakavt oynicak finale kadar boyle devam final 16*4 64 bord oynanacak murat: Kepekˆ§i sanˆ‰rˆ‰m bu eli ortaˆ ˆ‰na oynatmak istedi, bu yˆ…zden 2 ile sordu vahaboglu: belki olur ˆ imdi vahaboglu: ama yetmiyor galiba, yerden 4♠ yaparsa olur f_aydogdu: cakaya oynar bir batar baskanb : evet o durumda da cevapˆ§ˆ‰da dengeli 12 olduˆ u iˆ§in 3 ntde kalˆ‰nabilir ama ufak da olsa bi ˆ anslarˆ‰ olabilirdi f_aydogdu: bu el 7 9 3lu fit gibi degil daha iyi el olarak konusur bircan: orhan abinin bugˆ…n elinin ayarˆ‰ yok, dokundumu karta rakibi gˆ¶ˆ§ertiyor baskanb : 6. bordda 1karo aˆ§an 2karo rebid etmeyince kˆ¶r ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ndan sonra gˆ…zel © © ¨ © ¨ © ¨ ©© ¨ - 36 - Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) bir oyun sonu ile 3nt yapmˆ‰ˆ deklararn bircan: deminki 4♠ elinden ˆ§ok bˆ…yˆ…k bir swing geliyor GS lehine MolvaM: ˆ¶nceki ele diˆ er masada bakarsanˆ‰z ilginˆ§ defansˆ‰ gˆ¶receksiniz rodal f: Kan kill it by a neew ♣.. K funtay: obˆ…r odada bord 4 de 14 ile Nt aciˆ i 11 imp getirmiˆ Antalyaya gracelin: not necessary game forcing, just showed some range and West thought his 3 is enough for game...♣K haans: sort of agree with you but Mackwell boys never passed baskanb: o zaman bence 3 cl ˆ§ok az hele ki takˆ ‰m maˆ§ˆ‰ yapˆ‰ldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…ldˆ …ˆ ˆ…nde f_aydogdu: weranˆ‰n eli 1 nt acmistir MolvaM: nafiz zorlu K atak etmiˆ !!! MolvaM: ve salvo kˆ¶r damˆ‰ atˆ‰nca defans rahatlamˆ‰ˆ f_aydogdu: guzel bir 6 ebeb: :) april7: duck first ..♣2 gracelin: then you lose your own club suit. rodal f: Same but J21: http://www.eurobridge.org /competitions/09Brasov/Asp/RoundTeams.asp? qtournid=732&qroundno=22 zuner: 1 d acabilirdi aslinda f_aydogdu: cokda hˆ‰zlˆ‰ konustular vahaboglu: nevzat yerine kˆ¶r oynasa olurdu.. ♣3 MolvaM: dˆ…zeltiyoruz:) atak eden salvoymuˆ arigun: evet..♣6 atalok : fiko kapalˆ‰daydˆ‰n 28 0 idi mac hemen kacdˆ‰n buraya loo gracelin: decarer will probably play hearts to be 4-4, and guess spade..♣Q zuner: daha rahat olurdu benjent: Playing safe with the K, and back to 8 tricks.....♣4 baskanb: ama Nafiz abideki 8 li yerde de olsa nafiz abi KJT9 zannederek kˆ¶r Q atacaktˆ‰ o zaman da yerin 8 lisi kˆ¶rˆ… durduracaktˆ‰ :) murat: biz Tˆ…rkler 14 ile 1NT aˆ§ma sˆ‰klˆ‰ ˆ ˆ‰nda kainatta uzak ara lider gidiyoruz....♣9 rodal f: AND ♣ NOW..♣7 MolvaM: bence 3 = 4kˆ¶rˆ… ancak bˆ¶yle kaˆ§ ˆ‰rabiliriz ortak vugraphzuh: d-b 3 da hem fikir deˆ il baskanb: ya da kˆ¶r koz olmak kaydˆ‰yla 9 el alabiliriz :) senmel: kotu baslamalarina ragmen mac bitti © © © ¨ © © - 37 - © gibi. skor olarak rahat durumdalar ckesgin: almamalˆ‰ydˆ‰ ˆ imdi 10 olacak ckesgin: ♣ murat e: evet fenerbahˆ§e gibi takˆ‰mda iyi oyuncular olunca her an skor deˆ iˆ ebilir tabii baskanb: bircan abi de wodoo yapˆ‰yo baskanb: hˆ‰zlˆ‰ ve etkili .. 4 arigun: 15-17 NT oynayanlar kaliteli 14 (iyi 5’li renk veya cok 10’lu destekli) 1nt aciyorlar ki bende hemfikir’im.. 2 MolvaM: 4lˆ… kˆ¶r yere aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰yor sorun yok funtay: :).. K murat: nedense 14 puanlarˆ‰n %80’ni de iyi oluyor MolvaM: diˆ er masada baskanb: 5pik kontre oynanˆ‰yormuˆ evet.. A ckesgin: 5♣ aˆ§mayˆ‰nca 5♣ oynanamˆ‰yor o el siyabend: 2sp -1 olmuˆ digermasada 6bord..♠K baskanb: birol abinin 4 karo cue bid i ˆ§ˆ¶zdˆ… deklaran 4 karoyu duyunca ilerlemek kolay oldu f_aydogdu: 3 karoya 3sp ne 4sp ne bilmiyorum siyabend: 3sp ˆ lem istegi galiba atalok: 3 sp zayˆ‰f veya davet eli var vahaboglu: ˆ¶zˆ…r, lˆ¶veye gelemiyor..♠6 f_aydogdu: bhende naturel oynasam 1nt acardim mrace: simdi batabilir baskanb: yerin kˆ¶rˆ… A8xx olsaydˆ‰ da nafiz abi atacaktˆ‰ paˆ am :) baskanb: 3sp ya 3lˆ… koz davet eli ya da 2li koz preferance 4cl ye 4dia diyerek 3lˆ… koz davet elini gˆ¶sterdi bence rodal f: WD W..♠4 f_aydogdu: y mrace: aslinda double dummy simdi hep batar baskanb: zannediyorum anlaˆ malarˆ‰ K ataˆ ˆ ‰ deblokaj isteyen atak ˆ eklindedir MolvaM: evet herhalde murat: dolayˆ‰sˆ‰yla hemen 1NT :)..♠3 f_aydogdu: 3karo daha iyi el oynuyorsalar 3karo demeliydi ckesgin: hakandan kaˆ§maz MolvaM: ˆ§ok onˆ¶r puanˆ‰na raˆ men 9 lˆ¶ve hazˆ‰r deˆ il MolvaM : deklaran pik damˆ‰n geleceˆ ini bilmediˆ i iˆ§in biraz endiˆ eli ˆ u an MolvaM: defans 1 pik, 1 kˆ¶r ve 1 trefl alˆ‰r mˆ ‰ acaba diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor MolvaM: bu arada karo 10lu dˆ‰ˆ arˆ‰da saˆ lam MolvaM: muhtemelen yapacak oyunu ama ˆ u an pek hoˆ nut deˆ il halinden ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) f_aydogdu: abi takˆ‰mˆ‰n oyuncusuyum tum yorumlar tarafsiz ama gracelin: or some one discards a heart :)..♠8 haans: dummy is 3 tricks april7: N must step in in ♠ bjacobs: He should probably continue clubs after drawing trumps - might have an endplay in some scenarios f_aydogdu: zayif veya davetse bence kamil abi guzel getirdi f_aydogdu: 4sp deyip kapatabilirdi baskanb: 4karo cuebid ini duyunca elin lˆ¶ve alma potansiyeli artˆ‰yor gurayserim: running scores http://www.tbricfed.org.tr /docs/bolgesel_haberler/2009/kuluplerarasi/ ceyrek_htm.htm senmel: karoya 10 koyma plani..♠J vugraphzuh: ufak bir mola..♠A bjacobs: For example, if West started with ♣ K10x, he would be endplayed..♠T roman505: Not much Bagchi can do here f_aydogdu: her turlu sihir buyu ayak sandalye degistirme yapilir f_aydogdu: bilimsel seyler bunlar bircan: mesut abide 3 u ayarlamˆ‰ˆ . ya yanlˆ‰ˆ sˆ…sˆ… veriyo gurayserim: Fethiye - Major : 1-60 14 Bord rodal f: Awaya bit:) WAS hard for NS to bid the 3NT here. And the % are mic for get it home:)..♠ 9 senmel: 9 vahaboglu: 5 inci ♣ lazˆ‰m ckesgin: lˆ¶vesi yapˆ‰labiliyor olsaydˆ‰ 1 tane, 4♠ ˆ§ok iyiyken 3Nt batmˆ‰ˆ olacaktˆ‰ K 3 ile devam etmeliydi haans: and niow a make..♣T super nova: Hi Bill..♠Q Walddk2: Last board of the set coming up bjacobs: This N/S pair have played in several ANC finals, but haven’t yet won one. caitlin: Hi Bill:) super nova: The other room had temporarily closed down murat: Bravo Emre haans: what was the problem you may ask.. 9.. Q april7: now E is home,unbelievable haans: seen it :) haans: 2nt close to forcing nowdays gracelin: EW just bid and make a 25 HCP game with a runnable 5-card suit, what’s the surprise april7: the suprise is not the bid but the defence © ¨ ¨ ¨ gracelin: :).. 5 baskanb: 2nt yerine 3 karo deklare ederek bu elde 3nt den uzak durmak mˆ…mkˆ…n ama 4 pik de batˆ‰yor :) april7: double dummy.. 3 roman505: The other table is in 4H on 17 so should be a flat board there. zuner: zor..kˆ¶r RV pik RV o kadarda uzun boylu degil vugraphzuh: DT karo ile nevzat claim etti... 6 baskanb : ayrˆ‰ca eˆ er 4lˆ… M oynamˆ‰ yorlarsa kuzey inisiyatif alarak 1 kˆ¶r aˆ§tˆ‰ysa ˆ §ok kˆ¶tˆ… 1cl 1kˆ¶r 2 kˆ¶re AQxxx cl ile cevapˆ §ˆ‰ 4 kˆ¶r derdi zaten.. 3 MolvaM: rahat artˆ‰k.. 8 april7: last hand coming up.. 4 rodal f: Pest or colera? murat: dikkatli oynayˆ‰p 4kˆ¶rˆ… yaptˆ‰ atalok: Fethiye cekildi az sonra guraydan..♠5.. T.. 7..♣8.. 9 baskanb: gerˆ§i karo aˆ§ˆ‰yor siyabend: iˆ§sel yansˆ‰ma yani ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ © - 38 - Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) Board NS: EW: o c 4♠ 10 this/total IMPs Galatasaray S.K. Ankara Uni. S.K. E -1 100 10 5 ♠Q 8 3 A9532 7 87 5 4 ♣K Q 7 6 ♠A J 9 2 N ♠ K10 7 6 J10 K86 W E 93 A Q10 6 S ♣ J10 8 5 2 ♣A 4 ♠5 4 3 8 10 Q7 4 6 K J542 7 ♣9 3 9 620 W: O.Goksel W 2♣ 3♠ p N: M.A.ince Closed S: M.Karadeni N E 1N p 2♠ p 4♠ p ª § ¨ ¨ © § ª ¨ E: A.Ozalp S p p p § ª ª © ª © © ª© #1 S:: 3,2,8,T #2 E:: A,3,2,6 #3 E:: 4,9,T,K #4 N:: Q,6,4,A #5 W:: 9,7,6,J #6 S:: 5,9, 5, 7 #7 W:: 3,8,T,K #8 S:: 4,T,A,6 #9 N:: 2,K,7,J #10 E:: 8,Q, J, 3 #11 W:: 5,7, K, 2 bjacobs: Well hello rodal f: Last board are comminig up. Thx all for joyning:) Thx also for the nice inputs the specs have been givin vugrapha3: last for this set restart at 3:30pm local time funtay: Dogu ilk piki alip kor as kor oynasaydi dekleren durumu bilemeyebilirdi vugraphzuh: kisa bir mola bircan: cimboma 2 ˆ§ek siyabend: cimbom ilk ˆ§inkoyu yaptˆ‰ gibi atalok: 7 nuamarada garip seyler olmus acˆ‰kda baskanb : evet nt aˆ§an rdbl atmˆ‰ˆ db ˆ… zerine belki ˆ¶zel bir ortaklˆ‰k anlaˆ masˆ‰ olabilir f_aydogdu: bu takˆ‰mda her yol denilebilir:)) f_aydogdu: 1 69 14 boord yada - 39 - haans: thats how the mackwell boys make their contract..1N april7: its easy for you to lough:):) you are not playing haans: right rodal f: Draw so fare by the set. 8 - 8 caitlin: yes sorry I am in that room super nova: I am hoping to see a repeat of the 2002 ANC caitlin: bye super nova: Do you remember that one bill? benjent: Last board of this set. Thanks to my cocommentator Rodal vahaboglu: 2NT=2 renkli el kuvvetli ckesgin: 3.el de 3 x 4♠ pass? 8 gˆ¶tˆ…rmˆ…ˆ , sabah maˆ§ˆ‰nda kutularda kˆ‰rmˆ‰zˆ‰ yok sanˆ‰rˆ‰m tatsˆ‰zlˆ‰k olmasˆ‰n baskanb: 1nt ye davet edip etmemek oyuncu inisiyatifine kalan bir el ckesgin: 4 denyecekler mi? bjacobs: Yes, I believe that final was one by an overtrick imp on the final board..p vahaboglu: DBl ile de baˆ lanabilir ama daˆ ˆ‰lˆ ‰m uygun deˆ ilˆ MolvaM: kuzey riskli bir kontr atmˆ‰ˆ ama ˆ ans ˆ‰ yerinde. 200 almˆ‰ˆ lar diˆ er masada f_aydogdu: buda guzel 6 april7: 4NT? and then 5 1down..2♣ elivero: is it possible to stop in 4 here? vbman: karo rua kˆ¶r dv, ve cl j ye ihtiyaˆ§ yok baskanb: kont mu 2 dia mˆ‰ baskanb: bˆ…lent bu zonda konuˆ acaktˆ‰r rodal f: 11-14 NT again..p vugrapha3: last board for now restar at 2pm rodal f: A SPECIAL ON for the great vug operator. Nice woork vugrapha3: ta, and thanks for watching elivero: 2 sp here i think was a good bid,,describe the hand well f_aydogdu: pas diyebilir gurayserim: running scores http://www.tbricfed.org.tr /docs/bolgesel_haberler/2009/kuluplerarasi/ ceyrek_htm.htm MolvaM: bugˆ…nlerde birˆ§ok 11 puanlˆ‰ eller aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰rken 9 puan ile kontr bence riskli bjacobs: won..2♠ super nova: yes.. it was crazy rodal f: And stole the contract benjent: Thanks also to Jane on the keys and of course the players for putting on the show f_aydogdu: derken dedi senmel: en uygun yerde durdular © © Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) vahaboglu: transfer oynuyorlarmˆ‰ˆ champ i: ben 2 diadan yanˆ‰ndayˆ‰m f_aydogdu: 6 gidecekler ama kotu dagilim MolvaM: 32 puan ama 6nt iˆ§in deklaranˆ‰n uˆ raˆ masˆ‰ gerek baskanb: 4 3nt sorunsuz ckesgin: hmm baskanb: sanki biraz az gibi bircan: sˆ…per bi 4 , eger sˆ¶ylenirse ckesgin: tek ♠ iˆ§in bˆ¶yle konuˆ tu baskanb: ortaˆ ˆ‰n rengi tek diye alttan aldˆ‰ ama ortagˆ‰n renginde deˆ er yok sˆ¶yleyemezlerse talihsiz bir bord olacak vahaboglu: sonra 3♣ diyecekti..p senmel : tek renkli el diyip 3 tref diycekti. 2 renkli kuvvetli olucakti(sanirim) MolvaM: iˆ te Q ˆ‰n yeri belli oldu senmel: 10 love korden yapilabilir hobakan: doˆ u-batˆ‰nˆ‰n mˆ…dahil olmasˆ‰ gerekiyor konuˆ malara baskanb: 3nt yapˆ‰lˆ‰yor ama deklarabl deˆ il :) MolvaM: deklaran bu alde sadece 3 trefl alabiliyor super nova: SA V NSW..3♠ super nova: SA winning rodal f: 29HP total. Will they bid as the other table? yusufb: bora1♠ ten sonra rebid soprunu var diye 2nt actˆ‰ bu el iˆ§in kazandˆ‰ f_aydogdu: ataktan kazanacak bence MolvaM: pik atak gelebilir ama MolvaM: baˆ ka bir gˆ…n ise 5 hatta 6 trefl ˆ§ ekebilir atalok: 4 sp oynanˆ‰r bulmak zor bjacobs: Is this a good slam?..p Walddk2: yes super nova: Clubs or heart slam rodal f: Started 1H - 2♣ in the other room bjacobs: OK Walddk2: 6♣ is excellent super nova: 6c is par.. 7 h or 7c no way bjacobs: Is it a good grand slam? super nova: :-S super nova: no super nova: 68% grand approx rodal f: May we see the same good bidding here? But by 2-2♣ needed benjent: This contract drifted 3 off in the Open room - let’s see if Khokan can do better.... rodal f: But will be minimum2 down hobakan: ama uzun pik tarafˆ‰ndan son adam mˆ…dahale edemediler vugrapha3: this is the last board all results can be © © © ound at http://www.bridgeunlimited.com/bridge/ ViewMasterEvent2?code=09ANCT&header= abf..4♠ vugraphzuh: bu boarddan sonra kisa bir mola vericez murat: gˆ…naydˆ‰n :) vahaboglu: hoˆ geldin Murat vugraphzuh: Baˆ lantˆ‰ problemi yaˆ adˆ‰k moladan sonra ckesgin: 8 ler davet etmeli bulursa zon sˆ¶ yleyecek zaten pas diyemez bazˆ‰ 4333 ler belki MolvaM : burada tezcan ˆ‰n sˆ…rkontr SOS anlamˆ‰nda baskanb : evet ama atmayˆ‰nca da baˆ ka sorunlar doˆ abiliyo :( MolvaM: 1nt oynamayalˆ‰m da ne olursa olsun diyor yani atalok: bulan 13 imp sini alˆ‰r murat: herkes dikkatli.. zonlar sˆ¶yleniyor..p baskanb: pik ve kˆ¶r atakalrˆ‰na yapˆ‰lˆ‰yor bjacobs: 2♠ looks very strange to me..p Walddk2: 68%? bjacobs: About 46% I think, to pick up that club suit super nova: 68% = You want to bid 68% grands approx.. and clearly this is not it. ;-) super nova: clubs 2-2 = 40%. rodal f: And at least to The Australian Federation BBO by all there nice people. ( Wald are at sleep) We was Bjˆ‚rn and Frank from norway trying to help f_aydogdu: karoyada yapar f_aydogdu: artifisyel oynayanlar bulabilir f_aydogdu: 5li majorle zor rodal f: Can get hard to find the slam I belive..p super nova: Just thinking about the extra 6% that bill mentioned ckesgin: 2♠ aˆ ´§ˆ ´–lmayˆ ´–nca batˆ ´– iˆ ´§in kolaylaˆ ´ mˆ ´–ˆ ´ tˆ ´– iˆ ´ ler aslˆ ´–nda MolvaM: ve karo :) f_aydogdu: pas atarak baskanb: Ahmet Kˆ¶ker den gˆ…zel bir el deˆ erlendirme baskanb: ˆ¶zˆ…rrrrrrrrrrr siyabend: anlaˆ amadˆ‰lar galiba baskanb: konvansiyon atladˆ‰lar :( bjacobs: But you can pick up singleton J or Q with North..♠3 senmel: anterim hg. champ i: karonun kalitesi iyi olduˆ u iˆ§in murat e: antonio moyse yaˆ asaydˆ‰ bu eli kesin 4 kˆ¶r oynardˆ‰ © - 40 - Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) ckesgin: foresterlerˆ‰n burada dablton sˆ¶yleme ckesgin: KG gˆ…ˆ§ tespiti yapamadˆ‰ G sˆ…r sekanslarˆ‰ var vugraphzuh: dbl alert edˆ‰ldˆ‰ 2tarafdada MolvaM: sos operasyonu baˆ arˆ‰lˆ‰ oldu vugraphzuh: 1nXX=2♣e transfer olarak alert ed ˆ‰ldˆ‰ baskanb: ˆ zgˆ…r Gˆ¶ksel elini deˆ erlendirdi Mesut Abi kozunu ˆ§ˆ‰ktˆ‰ bundan sonrasˆ‰ enteresan :) atalok: koz atagˆ‰nˆ‰ seviyor bu masa baskanb: Mesut Abi ˆ§ok sever :) atalok: osgurun eli pas der mesut ainin elide koz cˆ‰kmaz bana gore gurayserim: Fethiye - Major : 1-61 15 Bord elivero: And thx to Frank that use so mucth of his time for uss here,,thx Frank..♠2 rodal f: In the otherroom S bidded 1♠. Gave room for the opps baskanb: olabilir evet mrace: defansin koz oynamasi lazim MolvaM: kuzey-gˆ…ney bu kontratta sadece 140 kadar yazacak april7: now a crossruff is coming..♠8 bjacobs : Losing to doubleton QJ - that’s the extra 6% Walddk2: if you guess it sybarra: if you note the bidding in our room was bing bang boom super nova : I think I would play it that way based on restricted choice if an honour was played from N bjacobs: If you don’t, you consign yourself to 40 % elivero: there we go:) MolvaM: yani %75 lik ˆ lemmiˆ demekki :) baskanb: evet f_aydogdu: tabi f_aydogdu: ahu abla atak yapsa daha iyiydi f_aydogdu: yapacak bence bu kaadi f_aydogdu: pik 8li baskanb: yerin 2cl deklaresinden sonra tref ˆ§ˆ‰ kmak ˆ§okkk zorr MolvaM: etkin ♣7 ˆ§ˆ‰kacak bence baskanb: pik 8 baskanb: ben renkler bu kadar markasˆ‰zken emin deˆ ilim ama zon durumu konuˆ mayˆ‰ gerektiriyor senmel: delikanli adam kacmaz ckesgin: bu gibi 3NT lere gelmemek iˆ§in sekans yazmˆ‰ˆ lar ilgilenenlere..♠T zuner : raki koyayim geliyorum:)) iˆ§meden seyretmek olmaz..♣A diyemeyince savunma bulanˆ‰klaˆ acak senmel: alert ne diye edilmisti murat e: briˆ§ literatˆ¶rˆ…nde ˆ¶nemli yeri olan bu adam bˆ…tˆ…n hayatˆ‰nˆ‰ 4-3 majˆ¶r fitlerine harcamˆ‰ˆ senmel: kisa mahor cik demek olabilirmi perdenin 1 tarafinda benjent: Low to the J looks like the best ployt to create tricks, but doesn’t work here..♣3..♣2 rodal f: Can play small !X to A and benjent: Might still generate a little by playing ♣ to the A then a to the 9 rodal f: Makes 5 benjent: Snap, Rodal! rodal f: Or. Best small MolvaM: anˆ‰nda rahatladˆ‰ deklaran rodal f: I take my words back:)..♣6 rodal f: 2 4rth. Then after 3 a que on the road? senmel: major murat e: maˆ§ bitti baskanb: baˆ tan sˆ¶ylemiˆ tik talihsiz bir bord olacak diye :))) baskanb: ama kont deyince serbest 2pike pass demek biraz tutucu..♣4 MolvaM: ok teˆ ekkˆ…r ekrem april7: thats the last hand..♣9 bjacobs: Their auction was a little mysterious, but I suppose once West 4th-suited, East was bidding a slam..♣T..♣K f_aydogdu : yanidim skor bilemedim fethiye zaten bu turlarda genelde cekiliyodu bi senesi ispardada oynamadan cekilmisti demek burda bi turoynayip cekilecek baskanb: multinin gˆ…zelliˆ i renk belli olmadan tavˆ‰r almak zorlaˆ ˆ‰yo..♠Q MolvaM: biraz farklˆ‰ ama genel anafikir aynˆ‰: 1nt den kaˆ§mak vugrapha3: Play has finished and will resume in about 20 minutes time...♠6 vugrapha3: that is, 2100 EST vugrapha3: Thanks to everybody. See you when play resumes. roman505: Congratulations to SA f_aydogdu: ben 1nt derdim dbla ckesgin: ˆ…stelik 3.den aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ larda hayati ˆ¶ nemi olur roman505: They came home against an ACT team which had led most of the round robin..♠4 rodal f: And afterthe ques. 5 = do u like ure quality at ? rodal f: Hard to stop at 4 - 41 - ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) elivero: ur missing 3 topp in long suit,,it could be a warning sign,,but it easy when u see all cards roman505: In the last auction, 2D was forcing to game and 3H a strong raise. roman505: Perhaps as commented elsewhere, it is often unwise to use 4NT with weak trumps. roman505: Thank you all. Bye now. vugrapha3: thanks all see u next year :) hobakan: hepimizin multi’ye 5 li kˆ¶r ile araya girip aˆ§anˆ‰n majˆ¶rˆ…nˆ… bulmuˆ luˆ umuz vardˆ‰r. hobakan: :) hayat baskanb: renk belli olduˆ unda da tavˆ‰r alacak adamˆ‰n konuˆ ma hakkˆ‰ kalmamˆ‰ˆ olabiliyor vbman: 2sp de biraz korkutucu vbman: kˆ¶re hazˆ‰r..♠A atalok: cl expasˆ‰ ve H u bilirse olur baskanb: rua pik as pike gidip trefli expaslasa ˆ imdi dam karoyla ˆ§ˆ‰ksa el aˆ§ˆ‰yordu atalok: aynˆ‰ sey koz ceker yerden f_aydogdu: baskan baskanb: elbette april7: thanks all and bye till next time we meet.. 9 funtay: kor rua cekilmedimi?.. 7 murat: +1 ? vugraphzuh: cekildi ben kacirdim sry funtay: yoksa ilk kore ruami koydu? funtay: ok:) vahaboglu: 9 lu mu verildi baskanb: GS taraftarˆ‰ bakamˆ‰yordur ˆ imdi :) .. 6 bjacobs: Still their auction lacks conviction. For example, did anyone see a diamond cue bid from West?.. J benjent: Well done Khokan, tightens the match up a little rodal f: Will hang at 5 loosers as I see it. Right Bj ˆ‚rn?:) gurayserim: Fethiye - Major : 1-66 16 Bord f_aydogdu: trabzonluyuz rahat seyrediyoz rodal f: 6 on?..♠5 MolvaM: TBF’nin final maˆ§ˆ‰nˆ‰ gˆ¶rˆ…ntˆ …lˆ… vermesini bekli murat e: briˆ§ ne enteresan konr demese batˆ‰nˆ ‰n eli pik ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰yordu Walddk2: mere details..♠9 Walddk2: Thx all.. 5 bjacobs: Cheers ... see you again shortly, after the scoreup rodal f: thx all vugrapha3: cheers all back in 35min ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © MolvaM: yoruz..♠7 senmel: mac geri geldi senmel: :) ckesgin : AKQ ♠ i varsa ¨ Q yoktur diyor oynayan senmel: heyacan bitmeyecek galiba..¨3 murat e: erkken ˆ¶ten horozun........ mrace: ben guneyin pasiyla mutabikim ..¨8 gracelin: bye..¨T mrace: tabi overcall stiline bagli rodal f: New ♣ and 5 I belive..¨K baskanb: birol abinin 3 piki de zorlama baskanb: 4 karoya kadar yapˆ‰labiliyodu..©4.. ©T champ i: 3 hde batˆ‰yordu zuner: o el 3 karo aˆ§ˆ‰yormu 9 nolu board zuner: pardon 7 nolu champ i: burak ˆ‰n dediˆ i gibi aˆ§ar aˆ§maz deˆ iˆ ir herhalde champ i: ben aˆ§mamaktan yanayˆ‰m zuner: asla aˆ§mam baskanb: ben ˆ¶yle dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yorum belki standart olarak aˆ§mamak gerek ama baskanb: aˆ§ana neden aˆ§tˆ‰m demem :) MolvaM: hazˆ‰r 3G devri de baˆ lamˆ‰ˆ ken.. A MolvaM: bence en iyisi doˆ unun baˆ ta 1 minˆ¶r a ˆ§masˆ‰ydˆ‰.. 6 vugraphzuh: ufak bir mola baskanb: evet 2karoya pass lada hemfikir deˆ ilim ckesgin: gelene kontr atmayacaksa baˆ ´ tan konuˆ ´ mak zorundaydˆ ´– kontr da 2 e seˆ ´§ enekolabilirdi MolvaM: bugˆ…nlerde herkes 4333 daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰ml ˆ‰ 11 puanlarˆ‰ bile aˆ§ˆ‰yor vugraphzuh: ewet.. 2 MolvaM: keˆ ke kˆ¶r as ˆ§ˆ‰ksaymˆ‰ˆ . oyun ˆ§ abuk biterdi vugraphzuh: mola.... K vahaboglu: falce carding vahaboglu: false vahaboglu: belki J ikiliye oynar diye herhalde f_aydogdu: mola murat: ˆ ˆ…kriye Hanˆ‰m dikkatli oynadˆ‰.. As karonun Orhan Abi’de olduˆ u puandan belli. 9lu karoya kanmadˆ‰ vahaboglu: As ikili zannederse bir ekmek ˆ§ˆ‰ kardˆ‰ murat: Ax kalmˆ‰ˆ ise, ilk karoyu bˆ‰rakarak boˆ yere kendi lˆ¶vesini riske etmiˆ olacaktˆ‰ defans. ˆ ˆ…kriye Hanˆ‰m dikkatli :) © © © © © ¨ - 42 - Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) vahaboglu: ancak asˆ‰ olan onˆ¶rˆ… ezerdi diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ndˆ… herhalde senmel: 4 kor oynasa cok sansli bord f_aydogdu: 4 h hep yapar rodal f: If so 4 IMP .. 7 elivero : he gave them the contract with stop playing sp i think haans: bye all nice to meet you.. J.. 8 vugrapha3: Thank you all. Play will commence at 1000 EST tomorrow morning. arigun : BBO’dan goruntulu vugraph servisi bekliyoruz :9 f_aydogdu: olabilirmi teknik olarak baskanb: ˆ¶bˆ…r masada 3 kˆ¶rde kalˆ‰nmˆ‰ˆ .. Q..♠J.. 3 rodal f: 3 IMP gained EW..♣5..♣7..♠K.. 2 vugrapha3: cheers everyone see u at 2pm local time benjent: ACT would be a little disappointed to be down after their strong qualifying performance, but still 20 boards to go f_aydogdu: once h rua yerine karoyu atmasilazim © © © © © ¨ Board NS: EW: o 4♠ c 15 this/total IMPs Ankara Uni. S.K. Galatasaray S.K. S 4 620 15 7 ♠Q 9 8 6 5 11 62 8 5 5 11 ♣A J 9 7 2 ♠10 N ♠K 3 9873 K J5 W E Q J7643 A10 9 8 2 S ♣85 ♣ K10 3 ♠A J 7 4 2 4 1 A Q10 4 5-4 K 8 ♣Q 6 4 2-1 650 W: O.Ekinci W p p §8,A,3,6 §Q,5,2,T ©5,Q,3,2 ¨A,K,3,5 #1 W:: #3 S:: #5 E:: #7 E:: N: N.Cengiz Open E: N.Aydogdu S: C.Arigun N E S 1♠ 4♠ p p ª ª ¨ ª § ¨ § #2 N:: 5,3,A,T #4 S:: 7, 6, 6,K #6 S:: 4, 4, J,K ahollan1: 1♣=17+ bal..1♠..p..4♠ mrace: is this the only set they are ahead ?..p..p harmon: 1d preemptive ahollan1: too good for lead director Vugraphu1 : The ? on that explanation was Granovetter’s - "we didn’t discuss this specific auction"..p..♣8..♣A Vugraphu1 : Berk: "well, let’s see what they jerked us around with on this one"..♣3..♣6..♠5.. ♠3..♠A Vugraphu1: Eke asks about Berk’s values - less than 5 HCPs mrace: thats a good lead for def..♠T..♣Q..♣5.. ♣2..♣T..♠7.. 6..♠6 Vugraphu1: Eke told Berk he had Kx of hearts left..♠K.. 5.. Q.. 3.. 2..♣4.. 4..♣J..♣K.. A.. K ¨ ¨ - 43 - ¨ © © © © ¨ Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3) Board NS: EW: o 1N c 16 this/total IMPs Ankara Uni. S.K. Galatasaray S.K. W 1 90 16 6-5 ♠9 6 4 J9532 7 5 AK 2 4 ♣Q J 3 ♠K Q 3 N ♠7 5 4 2 AQ8 4 7 W E J5 Q87 43 S ♣ A10 4 2 ♣K 6 5 ♠ A J10 8 6-7 8 K10 6 6 10 9 6 8 ♣9 8 7 8 110 W: O.Ekinci W 1N ¨ N: N.Cengiz Open E: N.Aydogdu S: C.Arigun N E S p p p ©2,7,K,A §2,Q,K,7 ¨2,3,9,J ªK,9,4,A ªQ,©5,ª7,8 #1 N:: #3 W:: #5 N:: #7 W:: #9 W:: to generate a swing ... if you’re 2 down ..." Berk " I’m hoping for 2 down" caitlin: who won NA swiss teams?..♣7..♣6 ritong: merci a tous especially to jan our operator was great..♣8..♣T..♣J.. 2 mrace: Winners of the Open Swiss were Bob Hampton, Gavin Wolpert, John Hurd, Joel Woodridge, Krsystof Buras & Grzegorz Karkiewicz. I don’t have any other results, sorry ritong: and bravi to the winners mrace: thats what JAN wrote earlier § § § ª ¨ © ª ¨ #2 W:: A,3,5,9 #4 E:: 6,8,T,J #6 W:: 4, 6,2, T #8 S:: T,Q,3, 5 #10 W:: 5,,, harmon: Thanks to all the people (and Al) for ¨ ¨ great commentary and vugraph.. 3.. 5..1N..p ahollan1: Jan Martel folks --- great operator, vugraph coordinator and GNT winner..p poohbear: Very impressive to hold a great team to 63 imps in 63 boards Vugraphu1: Berk alerts 4 - not sure what he said about it..p.. 2.. 7.. K Vugraphu1: Cohen: "he can make the last mistake in this partnership".. A..♣A..♣3..♣5 mrace: 5h is par i guess caitlin: yes ahollan1: specs asking if any spies know results of the other National Events that ended today..♣ 9..♣2..♣Q..♣K harmon: what berk did ahollan1: Jan -- please thank the players for an enjoyable show harmon: Yes who won the sun aft side game?? Vugraphu1: Eke as he passed it out "don’t want ¨ © © © © - 44 -
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