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Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) Board 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 Izmir BSBS vs Eskisehir AdalarBSB Izmir BSBS Eskisehir AdalarBSB Eskisehir AdalarBSB Izmir BSBS N Assael E Aydin N CAN E BILGEN S Kubac W Bilgin S UNAL W ERBIL Contract By M D N-S E-W Contract By M D N-S E-W 4♠ E 4 420 5♠ E 1 50 5♣ S 1 100 3N S 3 600 4♠ S 1 50 3N W 3 300 3N S 3 600 3N S 4 630 3N W 1 50 3N W 1 50 6N W 6 1440 4♠ E 6 680 4♥ S 4 620 3N N 4 630 3N S 3 400 3N S 1 50 4♥ S 4 420 4♥ S 1 50 3N S 4 630 3N N 5 660 3♦ E 1 50 PASS 1♠ N 2 200 4♠ N 6 480 3N S 3 600 4♥ N 4 620 3N W 1 100 3N W 4 630 IMPs - 10 - 12 - 8 - 1 - 13 10 10 - 1 - 1 12 32 46 IMPs Izmir BSBS Eskisehir AdalarBSB This segment 32 46 Penalty 0 0 Carryover 72 54 total 104 100 -1- References: BridgeBase online. Edited by M.Sugino Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) Board 1 this/total IMPs NS: Izmir BSBS 72 EW: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 10 64 o 4♠ E 4 420 c 5♠ E -1 50 1 5 ♠Q 5 2-3 J9854 8 3 K65 6 ♣ K10 9 ♠A N ♠ K J98732 A Q10 7 W E A Q J10 7 843 S ♣8 7 5 2 ♣ J4 ♠10 6 4 8 10 K632 4 92 10 ♣A Q 6 3 7 420 W: Bilgin W 4♣ p N: Assael Open S: Kubac N E p 3♠ p 4♠ p §A,2,9,4 ªA,5,2,4 §3,5,K,ª3 ªJ,T,§7,©5 S p p #2 S:: #4 W:: #6 E:: #8 E:: in the long run... iceking: yes and you usually make overtrick so given that 3 has to be underbid jillan: Will he upgrade this to 8 points jcwla: Was dead to rights on beating 4♣ but 4 not so much, whatevah... sfoxa: and we have 2 more boards of today’s schedule sfoxa: 5 against 5 ? garnetts: tight match stewball: this is another example of the inefficiency of a 2nt opening..I’ve always thought that its the hardest opener to deal with in standard jcwla: Has S fully shown this hand? Or did it take some mention of by N for S to know just how great it was? © ¨ ¨ © ¨ better othered1: maximim weak pass by north..p jcwla: I guess if 8-card suits are almost always trump then 9-card suits must always be trump. bobholl: this should be no problem ... sfoxa: 2 next boards, we’ll compare the scores, but please disregards the results - it’s pair event with IMPs scoring across the field..3♠ rmb1: Roland would be proud of 6 here andyv: yes..p sharkey: The Q the key here..4♣! sfoxa: this time, NS have all the power, but may overboard well kjadams: likely would not have affected the final result, but a low spade lead rather than the Jack and our declarer might be still playing the hand. hedyg: last 2 boards sfoxa : the gap between 1st and 2nd place is narrowing, but Gawrys-Tuszynski are still 10 IMPs ahead sfoxa: in ♠ game, NS have to guess right..p sfoxa: next door, Lauria-Versace bid 3NT and made 11 tricks after ♠ lead from E sfoxa: as Polish spec pointed out, interview with Piort Gawrys appeared in the main daily paper of Poland on 18th-Feb sfoxa: lot of photos, interesting questions sfoxa: yes, they are 26-34 as for now ..4♠ sfoxa: http://www.bridgemoscow.ru/tournaments /results/slava11/slava11t16r7.htm hedyg: no puppet here andyv: that’s why a ♠ lead at trick one would have put a lot of pressure on S hedyg: 2 forcing? kjadams: declarer should win the race to 7 tricks here...p stewball: Lauria chose 1 in the OR--I;m with him andyv: and for all specs who keep telling me in the polish club the rebid of 2 would show 6, need to look at Krzysztof Jassem’s book on the Polish club:)..p jillan: the 2♠ opening bid shows 0-7 and 5+♠ is this to strong..p ybob: Q and ♣ finesse to 8 tricks, M lead was down sfoxa: unexpected end of auction hedyg: this might keep them out of slam? sfoxa: NS have to be sure they have no 2 losers in ♠ now iceking: this is makeable looking at all hands..♣ ¨ ¨ ¨ E: Aydin ©3,A,8,7 ©Q,4,§J,©K ªK,6,¨7,ªQ ¨3,2,T,K othered1: well if south bids only 3© on this hand, north might raise on that excellent 11 bvdahl: I think I agree that 4© is probably best #1 S:: #3 W:: #5 S:: #7 E:: hedyg : maybe 9 ♣ from E would have been © © © ¨ -2- Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) A rmb1: I guess 2NT is the other room was natural, many would play it as artificial: scramble (or lebensohl) sfoxa: W was really lucky to find ♣K in partner’ s very few points sharkey: 2♣ some Gazzili type bid..♣2 garnetts: hmmm They both did well to keep low sfoxa: W was on th right track..♣9 hedyg: N has no ♠ stopper and S doesnt like his K♠ anymore sfoxa: same start. ..♣4 sfoxa : W’s ♠ holding is not bold enough, IMHO, to convert passed partner’s dbl into penalty sfoxa: S would hardly make the contract, but game by EW is missed hedyg: so lets try to play in ♣....... hedyg: Tuszynski has a stick hedyg: this board will cost EW some jcwla: Identical auction... 3 bobholl: you have to be very sure that 4♣ isn’t a cue .. A.. 8 hedyg: E could have come in over 1NT sfoxa: 7th trick had been stolen.. 7 sfoxa: his first good move was to bid 4 sharkey: Lauria misguessed Q OR..♠A sharkey: The old adage of the Q behind the J...... sfoxa: bad news..♠5 sfoxa: so the result..♠2 hedyg: pass over 3♠ X denied stopper kjadams: The Imp comparisons you see in Movie show vs the Open room, but this is an IMP Pairs competition scored across 8 tables. kjadams: again, the nice trump spots will simplify the play. bessi2: indeed Sˆƒlensminde lead a vs 2N but followed low when Lauria played towards the Q of ..♠4 rmb1 : At some stage West will have to play another to get his ruff sfoxa: as for now, tha matter of course follows the same way as next door.. Q sfoxa: trump return? sharkey: West has a chance to go wrong - dont know pd has ♠K... sfoxa: both red suits don’t look promising for lead sharkey: agree sharkey: EW dont have a good round so far... bobholl: will put J sfoxa: may be, only 4 from S show negative ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ © © © © -3- © © and 4♣ - cue with some values in ♠, whereas rdbl - 1st class comtril in ♠ sfoxa: *control, sorry hedyg: 3♠ was a slam invite in hedyg: would probably not bid 4♣ without at least the K♠ or a singleton hedyg: since N denied control.. 4 sfoxa: in OR, W got A and cashed K to receive a signal from partner. E must have been discouraged and W hoped to beat contract with ♠ continuation..♣J hedyg: cross ruff for 10 tricks sfoxa: now, for instance.. K rmb1: Getting urgent :) sfoxa: declarer has to find Q to win, but who cares now... othered1: east, of course, wasn’t looking at 52 cards..♣3 sharkey: Looking at dummy’s suit a return wudnt be likely anyway sfoxa: exactly. now it’s up to N..♣5 sfoxa: same position appears here..♣K toobad: We shall try again iceking: he had to do something, his line seems fine to me ..♠3 iceking: didnt really have any suit to go for, no spot cards anywere othered1: agree iceking: Not clear for north what is best now sfoxa: simple matter of guessing correctly sharkey : All going their way will probably finesse the "right" way sfoxa: in the 7, EW made 3nt after !Q lead sfoxa: next door garnetts: 2♣ in both rooms was a sort of relay ( Gazzilli) and 2♠ showed less then 8 points sfoxa: right moment to let contract making rmb1: Last chance sfoxa: W hardly expect partner to have 6-card suit mareczek: I think that the problem was: after redouble with better hand (maximum of negative 0-8) bid immediately, or pass, and bid in the next round sfoxa: thoug, I wouldn’t blame N for one more move ..♠K kjadams: now we just have declarer playing safe. sfoxa: what about on more now?..♠6 kjadams: though 3rd diamond might embarrass south hand! kjadams: Good point about coming in over NT. Will be curious how many pairs risk it... 7 © ¨ © © ¨ © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) hedyg: Gromov did..♠Q kjadams: I would, but I bid insanely :-)..♠J andyv: board 29 was a big swing for NS but they turned around and gave most of it back when slam was not even reached on board 31 in the OR..♠T..♣7 hedyg: disc a ♣ sfoxa: practical approach - each imp counts.. 5 sfoxa: but now W has to continue .. 3.. 2.. T hedyg: everybody came in! hedyg: why change his tactics?.. K hedyg: A and ♠ not better? © ©¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ Board 1 this/total IMPs NS: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 10 64 EW: Izmir BSBS 72 o 4♠ E 4 420 c 5♠ E -1 50 1 5 ♠Q 5 2-3 J9854 8 3 K65 6 ♣ K10 9 ♠A N ♠ K J98732 A Q10 7 W E A Q J10 7 843 S ♣8 7 5 2 ♣ J4 ♠10 6 4 8 10 K632 4 92 10 ♣A Q 6 3 7 420 W: ERBIL W 2N 4N 5♠ N: CAN Closed S: UNAL N E p 2 p 4♠ p 5♣ p p ¨ ¨9,Q,K,3 §T,4,Q,5 ª3,4,A,5 ©Q,8,ª7,©2 #1 S:: #3 N:: #5 E:: #7 W:: E: BILGEN S p p p p §K,J,6,2 §3,7,9,ª2 ©A,4,7,6 ªK,6,§8,ªQ #2 N:: #4 S:: #6 W:: #8 E:: toral5: here we go djneill : L-V need to make up 30 IMPs in 8 boards on the 1st place pair jtr: Good afternoon people xenya: Hello David toral5: hi david jtr: Well, the leaders are at the other table so we will have an idea of how it is going jtr: Hi Vladimir and Sapan aap00: re hi toral5: interesting brd 1 to begin with aap00: y vahaboglu: herkese gˆ…naydˆ‰n exerdar: gˆ…naydˆ‰nlar aap00: 3 loosers in contract..p jtr: Only 9 tricks though..2 ! aap00: but ♣ play shortens declarer toral5: only 3?♣ ♣ ♣:) © ¨ -4- Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) aap00: y..p jtr: Not easy to reach game when a strong NT has been opened vahaboglu: son devre, ˆ¶nnde bitiren tur atlˆ‰ yor funtay: Gˆ…r ve Yˆ‰lmazˆ‰n uzun zamadˆ‰r devam eden partnerlikleri var vahaboglu: 6♠ bulunabilecek mi..2N!..p vahaboglu: 6 vahaboglu: 3 vahaboglu: mu vahaboglu: herkese iyi akˆ amlar toral5: dont think the game makes..4♠ jtr: Good contract though..p aap00: y toral5: yes aap00: 2 making comfortably toral5: 2 was? toral5: 1M? aap00: well done by E to overcall vahaboglu: 2♠ davet+ herhalde funtay: ˆ ubukˆ§u ve Taˆ ara ara oynasalarda bu sene ilk defa beraber oynuyorlar vahaboglu: iyi dedi jtr: Better played by West to avoid an immediate ♣ lead..4N aap00: thk 2 was DONT jtr: Probably s and a higher vahaboglu: bu fazla oldu atabey: slm vugraphzzy: Gˆ…naydˆ‰n..p vahaboglu: bˆ¶yle ellerde kabul ederken fazla varsa cue-bid yapmak gerekli vahaboglu: gˆ…naydˆ‰n Ayberg vahaboglu: merhaba Yalˆ§ˆ‰n..5♣..p vahaboglu: kuvvetli sekans mˆ‰ zannetti vahaboglu: herhalde multi 2 atabey: slm haldun :) kimler var burda vahaboglu: yorumda mˆ‰ atabey: evet vahaboglu: ben emre kaya: slm herkese vahaboglu: katˆ‰labilirsin atabey: slm emrekaya emre kaya: slm hocam:) vahaboglu: 2 nun kuvvetli bˆ¶lˆ…mˆ… ne acaba vahaboglu: 5 li renk mi ˆ§eriyor atabey: nie 3♠ acmio ki? beyazda hic fena bi el diil vahaboglu: yanlˆ‰ˆ anlaˆ tˆ‰lar diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ… nˆ…yorum © ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ -5- atabey: 6 ile ilgisi yok elin. izmir o kadar da ˆ¶ nde diil. erdinc nie costu anlamadim atabey: evet. bence de. kuvvetli sandi ..5♠..p funtay: 31s dengeli el ile 3ntye transfer sanirim..p baskanb: mrblarrrrr..p atabey: karo ˆ§iksina, ki makul atak, hic sansi yok. cikarsa empasla oluyo vahaboglu: 2NT ˆ…zerine 3♠ mi acaba zayˆ‰ft ˆ‰ da, Bilgen pas geˆ§ilir korkusuyla 7 li olunca 4♠ dedi.. 9 champ i: 2 nt ˆ…zerine 3 karoyuda spler oynuyorlar ama atabey: slm burak hosgeldin hobakan: gˆ…naydˆ‰nlar :):).. Q funtay: 3♠ exerdar: kuvvetli multi olsa 3nt derdi 2nt ustune.. K vahaboglu: bu deklereyi burak anlar ancak.. 3 jtr: although it makes the bid oddd unless 2 shows a longer major..♣K vahaboglu: gˆ…naydˆ‰n ˆ zgˆ…r..♣J hobakan: Haldun abi naber?..♣6 vahaboglu: valla iyi olmaya ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰yoruz vahaboglu: senin bebek bˆ…yˆ…dˆ… inˆ allah arigun: gunaydin..♣2 baskanb: gnydn abi :) vahaboglu: arada gitmezsin vahaboglu: :) hobakan: ˆ§ok ˆ ˆ…kˆ…r:) baskanb: Zayˆ‰f 2lerden beklentiler ˆ§ok arttˆ ‰ son zamanlarda :) tez: merhaba:)..♣T..♣4..♣Q aap00: y, 2 overcall is far from straightforward.. ♣5 exerdar: yeniden selamlar vugraphzzy: bir karo bi pik tez: dˆ…z bir bordla baˆ ladˆ‰k toral5: spec says ew use woolsey on 1nt.so 2d has to b 1M...♣3..♣7..♣9..♠2..♠3 vahaboglu: kantitatif yapmadˆ‰..♠4..♠A aap00: but winning - without it NS will make nt on ♣ partscore..♠5 vahaboglu: 4333 el diye.. A.. 4.. 7 vahaboglu: stayman da yapmadˆ‰.. 6.. Q vahaboglu: evet.. 8 vahaboglu: ♠ i bilirse 6 oluyor..♠7 siyabend: selamlar baskanb: Dˆ…n de Tez Hocam bir elde zayˆ‰f 2ye sormadˆ‰k diye Haldun Abiyle bana kˆ‰zm ˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰.. 2..♠K..♠6..♣8..♠Q vahaboglu: zayˆ‰f ikilerin zararˆ‰ rakibe deˆ il ortaˆ a oluyor © ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © © © © © © © ¨ ¨ Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) vahaboglu: eskiye mi dˆ¶nsek ne , kuvvetli vugraphzzy: 5li pik 20-22 anlamˆ‰ˆ Erdinˆ§ champ i: haldun abi senin aklˆ‰n hepside valla vahaboglu: yaa atabey: sen o kadar mi eskisin haldun :) Board 2 this/total IMPs NS: Izmir BSBS 72 EW: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 12 76 o 5♣ S -1 100 c 3N S 3 600 2 8 ♠A Q J 9 7 9-10 J6 8 6 AK 10 ♣Q 8 5 2 ♠10 4 N ♠K 5 3 2 A75 10 9 8 3 W E Q10 9 7 4 J852 S ♣K 7 4 ♣J ♠8 6 3 3 KQ42 4 63 7 ♣ A10 9 6 3 3 620 N: Assael Open S: Kubac N E p 1♠ p 3 4 5♣ p W: Bilgin W ¨ ¨ 1 2 p p ¨ § © ¨ #1 W:: 9,K,5,6 #3 N:: 2,J,A,4 #5 W:: A,6,8,2 © E: Aydin ¨ ¨ § ª S p 2♣ p p #2 N:: A,8,3,4 #4 S:: 3,K,5, 2 #6 W:: 4,Q,K,6 ¨ pfbr: Hi Roland othered1: No argument, just an observation Walddk2: Hi Anita iceking : yes i know it look silly but it really wasnt i think sfoxa: ok, applause and several imps to Brink sfoxa: so, last board of the round jcwla: BTW it didn’t come into play on this hand but if S gets to open this hand and it’s in range for 1NT that is my choice. You often hear "no need to bid 1NT when have a convenient ♠ ... jcwla: rebid" but so often it is not the case, you end up not able to show the hand. sfoxa: present in return for board 27 hedyg: with A or void XX hedyg: last board now of this match sfoxa: last board of the round. scores to be found here in a while http://www.bridgemoscow.ru/ -6- Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) tournaments/results/slava11/slava11t16r.htm andyv: and now to final board of this set. Thank you all for coming. Thank you to all the specs for their input and joining in to make this so much fun. hedyg: last board of this match now hedyg: thank you Yvan, great job :) hedyg: thanks Sveta and Mark :) vugraphzyv: thx to all hedyg: we will be back very shortly with the last match sfoxa: last board of this round..p bessi2: looks like 4♠ should make easily enough as the cards lie so a good result for Brogeland-Sˆƒ lensminda in the open room hedyg: thank you Yvan, great job :) andyv: and now the final board of this set..p hedyg: Last board of the tournament. Thanks to Yvan Voloshenin, our outstanding operator. Our appreciation goes to the Organising Committee ( Pavel Portnoy), the sponsors and all those who ... hedyg: have been instrumental in bringing this event to the BBO audience. Thanks to my cocommentators Sveta Bodrenkova , Mark Horton , John Adams and George Holland for sharing their ... hedyg: time and wisdom with us. And, of course, to all spectators for their witty and helpful comments. sfoxa: thanks to all the specs for watching and providing with hints, great thanks to our operator, job well done!..1 ! sfoxa: N may well dream about small slam if partner has the right values rmb1: I guess NS will reach 3NT (eventually) and make +3 bobholl: 6♣ very fine contract but diffcult to reach after multi hedyg: we will be back in ca 25 minutes hedyg: 3♠ by N... hedyg: and 4♣ by S? bobholl: may be :) mareczek: multi 2 weak two in a major sharkey: Big round for NS and Lauria-Versace struggling next door..1♠ sfoxa: next door, NS managed to win 6♣ after lead vugraphzyv: fast board) hedyg: lol yes sfoxa: they both deserved having a breath :) sfoxa: both pairs vugraphzyv: the next match starts soon hedyg: bye for now! ¨ ¨ © -7- ¨ ¨ iceking: 1♣ simular to magic ..p sfoxa: with such a superfit, EW have a lot of aces to concede sfoxa : if RDBL shows honour, NS here wouldn’t have their life as easy hedyg: 6♠ is on too sfoxa: is 6♠ worse? sfoxa: :) hedyg: 6♠ protects the K but is on a guess in plus ♠ finesse hedyg: 4♠ is too final imo hedyg: or does it just mean no fit in ? hedyg: anyhow Bessis has a great hand now bobholl: 3♠ surely F so gives up on slam sfoxa: Does S hand deserves one more bid after "final" 4♠ ? sfoxa: and one more round of today’s schedule is coming soon, after short break sfoxa: next round after very short break, so stay tuned sfoxa: S hoped for his own play when bidding 1 ♠, not 2 ..2♣ vugraphzyv: thx everyone ) andyv : ty to Sveta and ty to our wonderful operator, Ivan Volozhenin sfoxa: next round follows right now, so stay tuned..2 sfoxa: currently, NS are providing 40-20 and keep the lead garnetts: strikes me that 4 now would sort this hedyg: surely yes, it is a great hand after the 4♠ bid mareczek: dbl of 3 , what do you think should be? kjadams: 2N natural and 3H pass or correct. 3N preempts East from showing suit. mareczek: hearts or points? iceking: even the same ..3 stewball: Drijver judged to pass 2♣ in OR hedyg: aggressive 1♠ sfoxa: when EW will find sacrifice (very cheap this time), N would better assess his values and score small plus in 4♠ dbld..4 hedyg: they make it look so easy :) hedyg: another fast arrival bid by Volcker bobholl: 32 is enough so no guess bobholl: or just trump 2 hedyg: clearly N refused to cuebid anything else so Bessis should pass sfoxa: not easy contract at all. especially after ♣ lead threatening with ruff hedyg: they are not scared ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) 6♣ says spec but that isn’t natural i fear sfoxa: the only chance for defence..p sfoxa: hello Robin, welcome to the last board of hedyg: and surely would show 1st rd control in the round ♣ garnetts : They did not get a Diamond lead bobholl: may be N should have tried a "natural" ¨ bobholl: true and with the single not attractive jcwla: Variations on a theme here...p sfoxa: hm, not so S. definitely, no expecting partner with such ♠ values rmb1: Hi garnetts: Just been told that is Brink’s birthday andyv: thank yous to Sveta, Sudhir, Vladimir, Ivan our operator and to all the specs who joined us. kjadams: 1S generally promises a 5 card suit, and he has one. kjadams: just not spades hedyg: 4 other pairs played in 2♠ as well mareczek: I think that 2♠ solved all problems of N..p mareczek: his problem now is 6 or 7? sfoxa: Ns hand deserves one more move sfoxa: S can have at all valueless hand, kind of xxxx QJx xxx xxx - but only this case is really bad for N mareczek: I think that rdbl was "bid your suit" and 2♠ promises some values in this case sfoxa: 3♣ must have been very precise with its meaning sfoxa: kind of "maximal hand, both majors. ♣ values" rmb1: This is the last board of the round, thanks to all involved in bringing us this event including my fellow commentator Sveta sfoxa: so N denies his dream hedyg: 5 = fit in ♠ and 1st rd ctrl in andyv: In OR, NS competed to 4 and E took the save at 5 ybob : 5 defeat 500 with leads from S ( played by E) , hard to do..5♣ sfoxa: will N find lead? sfoxa: thanks to our operator Ivan - half a job well done! sfoxa: next door, declarer failed in 6 trying one plan after another sfoxa: 3nt may well go down after lead andyv: I haven’t seen yet how 6 goes down.. it looks pretty easy to make chessmaste: All contracts look easy when you can see all four hands vugraphzyv: http://imtransfer.im4mobile.com/ uploads/7590129819616131734/Image.jpg vugraphzyv: online photo) © © ¨ © © ¨ ¨ © © ¨ against 6♣ next door sfoxa : we’ll have 3 more rounds after lunch break jcwla : No way, this is cheap insurance time, nobody knows who is making what and they’re not going to voluntarily allow a possible double swing...p sfoxa: careful now! E has to play ♣, not in return sfoxa: next one is coming soon sfoxa: Expert’s voice to hear! hi Mark sga1: NS haven’t bid well here. S should make a bid with 4-4 in majors sfoxa: was N afraid of second DBL after 3 ? sfoxa: let’s add spices to this game! - Zaleski..p kjadams: double of 3H works when partner has 4H, but otherwise it just lets west in on the hand. mareczek: no nie mareczek: sorry, priv jcwla : Whatever you’ve agreed. If haven’t agreed, natural for now and we make the agreement after the hand. andyv: I have to admit, bridge players in photos are just not that exciting. jillan: maybe S should have ducked that.. 9 bessi2: interesting defence here chessmaste: East has done well to go past 3NT, easily down on a heart lead hedyg: one played 2♣= , 1 went off in 2 and 1 went off in 1NT rmb1: Next round at 14:30 CET (13:30 GMT) in 1 hour 40.. K rmb1: Sorry. I thought we had started the next round early :(.. 5 garnetts: Nor here either mareczek: unlucky choice of Zmudzinski andyv: Hi Mark bessi2: he must play a spade from dummy now if he want to avoid a guess.. 6 jcwla: This is the last board of this segment. Thanks to Roland, Ivan, John and Marek, and all kibs. mareczek: thanks a lot, bye :).. A sfoxa: good partner finds correct lead, very good one - finds one more trick in the suit sfoxa: idea about cashing ♣ ace seems better - if partner discourages, E has possibility to switch to .. 8 ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨¨ -8- Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) ¨ iceking: yes looks clear duck trick one .. 3 jillan: gives W entries to play ♣ from dummy hedyg: in 2 ♠ all made overtricks bessi2: and now another diamond and declarer ¨ must guess.. 4 ybob: was better play K and ♠ to hand bessi2 : well.. east must not ponder too long though sfoxa : but N has to establish his trick or attack the s mareczek: but it is hard to imagine that opponents can have only 3 cards in one of majors bobholl: now he has a guess :(..♣2 hedyg: what for? LOL sarkar_suk: :) bobholl: sry K of is grown :) hedyg: ty Sveta and Bob :) hedyg: see you all in 15 minutes sfoxa: ty Hedy, see you soon bobholl: tya cu later sfoxa: EW are going to 6 as well, imo. so we’ ll follow one more example of declarer play sfoxa: current standing to be found here http:// www.bridgemoscow.ru/tournaments/results/ slava11/slava11t16r8.htm..♣J sfoxa: cashing 2 more ♠ grants declarer with the contract iceking: will just use it to play ♣ to Ten i assume.. ♣A andyv: N’s dbl of 3 will get the defense off the the right lead against 6 rmb1: spec says 3♣ = max with both majors ( 2NT = min with both)..♣4 mareczek: so the heart was sensible option jillan: now I see why....’..♣3..♣K..♣5 sfoxa: even this ruff doesn’t prevent declarer from making sharkey: no - a push kjadams: down 1... 2 andyv: I think they will make it chessmaste: The hand will turn on the play of the club suit kjadams: the trump lead here was the killer. vugraphzyv: we will start next round in 1 hour 22 minutes.. A sfoxa: see you. thanks to all kjadams : passing 2C was the winner on this hand. sharkey: This is the last board of this round - 14 more rounds to follow. We’ll be back soon.. 6 sfoxa: should admit, you joined the most interesting board of the round :) ¨ © ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © © -9- © othered1: looks like the normal play.. 8 andyv: why Mark? don’t you ever finesse for 10s in slams?:) jillan: normal result.. 2 othered1: south m ade two odd plays there jillan: 10 or eleven tricks rmb1: Lots more bridge on BBO today kjadams: 4H would likely make by north south, so not really a loss for Multi. mareczek: N nie musia´‡e mieˆƒ czterech pikˆ‡w, adam mia´‡ ich sporo mareczek: sorry again hedyg: it did help him clear the ♠s with just 1 loser..♠4 kjadams: club misguess did not help daman: turn out the lights.....the party’s over daman: and the fat lady is singing daman: running scores http://www.bridgemoscow.ru /tournaments/results/slava11/slava11t16r.htm hedyg: everybody is waiting for Gawrys to finish, all other tables are through sfoxa: NS lost a bunch of imps, but can find consolation in retaining pair’s moral. Leading partner’s suit. ..♠Q sfoxa: http://www.bridgemoscow.ru/tournaments /results/slava11/slava11t16r.htm check the scores here jcwla: Strange stuff here. andyv: I’ve seen NS have much better days...this was a rough set for them jcwla: Anyway, thanks Sveta and Ivan and all kibs. For now, from Los Angeles, so long...♠K kjadams: seeing all the hands makes North’s problem hard to see, but the play of the club suit suggests different holdings for declarer than he actually has. sfoxa: from both side, I’d say ..♠6 sfoxa: thank you Jordan sfoxa: thanks to all the specs and special "bravo" to our operator - one should try this jib once to understand :) sfoxa: see you tomorrow sfoxa: *job, sorry vugraphzyv: thx everyone) sfoxa: ty, Ivan! garnetts: thanks all ttfn been interesting rmb1: The open room auction was more constrained, having to start at 3 jcwla: For now, from Los Angeles, so long. kjadams: This is such an outstanding event. The organizers must be thanked for bringing this quality field together. © ¨ Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) kjadams: kib asks.. what is Slava cup mareczek: thanks all kjadams: http://www.slavacup.com has details, but here is some info kjadams: It is memorial tourney, named after a promising young Russian player that passed too young kjadams: The Top 16 part of the event is invitational with cash prizes kjadams: Slava Grinuk Board 2 this/total IMPs NS: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 12 76 EW: Izmir BSBS 72 o 5♣ S -1 100 c 3N S 3 600 2 8 ♠A Q J 9 7 9-10 J6 8 6 AK 10 ♣Q 8 5 2 ♠10 4 N ♠K 5 3 2 A75 10 9 8 3 W E Q10 9 7 4 J852 S ♣K 7 4 ♣J ♠8 6 3 3 KQ42 4 63 7 ♣ A10 9 6 3 3 620 W: ERBIL W p p p p N: CAN Closed S: UNAL N E p 1♠ p 2♣ p 2N p p p ¨ ¨ ª § © § © ª ¨ ª ¨ © E: BILGEN S p 1N 2♠ 3N § § ª § § © § § ¨ © © #1 W:: T,K,2,3 #2 N:: Q,J,3,K #3 W:: 4,A,8,6 #4 N:: 2, 3, A,4 #5 S:: 6,4,Q,2 #6 N:: 5, T, 9,7 #7 S:: T, 7, 8, 8 #8 S:: 6, 9, 6,3 #9 S:: 8,T,J,K #10 E:: 9,K,A,J #11 W:: Q, 7, 5, 2 hobakan: burakcˆ‰m gnd:) exerdar: gunaydˆ‰n baskanb: herkese mrb :) vahaboglu: hoˆ geldin Burak exerdar: slm:) hobakan: valla biz selamlaˆ ˆ‰rken 480 yazdˆ‰ ankara vahaboglu: bilirse 7 funtay: 6 hep var bu elde kaybetme potansiyeli var toral5: such brds are NOT gud for ns..p funtay : cok kontrollˆ… eli vardi 2nt acanin kantitatifi kabul edrdi bence vahaboglu: 980 de yazabilirdi..p yusufb: gˆ…naydˆ‰nnn herkese champ i: selamlar - 10 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) exerdar: Ays, gˆ…ney Erkan ˆ nal :) vahaboglu: Acol zamanˆ‰nˆ‰ bilirim vahaboglu: Gorene yetiˆ medim hobakan: slm:)..p atabey: ben basladigimda kuvvetli 2 yoktu valla vahaboglu: 50 yaˆ ˆ‰ndayˆ‰z toral5: in case they aim for 10,000 usd..1♠ vahaboglu: maˆ§ heyecanlˆ‰ olunca bˆ…tˆ…n akgul: slm..3N exerdar: slmm aap00: ew won the race: "who eil play 1nt"..p tez: slm rahmi atabey: bu 3NT batacak heralde. 2 muracat var vahaboglu: dˆ¶nˆ…ˆ de karo olursa oyun olur..p exerdar: bu gazilli deˆ il, 2♣ 2+kart ..p adenarc: ZABUNOˆ LU - YILANKIRAN This arkadaˆ lar toplandˆ‰..p jtr: Nobody wants to bid NT..1N! xenya: http://www.bridgemoscow.ru/tournaments /results/slava11/slava11t16r.htm for results and running scores. baskanb: Yusuf Hocam hg bugˆ…n erkencisiniz vahaboglu: arada el ama kabul eder diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ …nˆ…yorum toral5: lol..p yusufb: slmmm hobakan: tabi tabi. vahaboglu: batˆ‰rmak kolay mˆ‰ hobakan: ˆ¶ˆ leden sonra turnuva salonundan da izlenimlerimi paylaˆ acaˆ ˆ‰m bir aksilik olmazsa:) yusufb: hoˆ bulduk Burak cokta erken degil exerdar: K ataˆ ˆ‰na preferans verebilirse batˆ ‰rˆ‰labilir baskanb: Ben kuvvetli 2yi hatˆ‰rlˆ‰yorum bizim kˆ¶yde oynanˆ‰yordu vahaboglu: 30 yˆ‰l ˆ¶ncesinden sˆ¶z ediyorum jtr: East will maybe:)..2♣ vahaboglu: bile dˆ¶nse lˆ¶ve yok tez: ˆ leme giderlerse batacak vahaboglu: kˆ¶ylˆ… milletin efendisidir, bir bildi ˆ i vardˆ‰r champ i: goren de nt ye transfer yoktu haldun abi bilir vahaboglu: evet onu bilirim atabey: emrekaya sen bilir misin kuvvetli 2? tez: hoˆ geldiniz..p..2♠ tez: 4♣ kontrol deˆ il.kˆ‰salˆ‰k gˆ¶steriyordu champ i: cl tekini mert beˆ enmedi exerdar: 1tur daha konuˆ mayˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ… yor heralde vahaboglu: gene Gazilli toral5: gromov heard u david..p..2N vahaboglu : ancak pik fitini bulup kantitatif yapsalar kesin kabul ederdi tez: 5♣ demeyi jtr: Well, someone had to bid them..p funtay : karo atagi oynayana epey yardimci olucak vahaboglu: evet riyilikci: selamlar session 0 -3 of played boards 2.. T vahaboglu: evet champ i : bˆ¶cek burasˆ‰ tˆ…rk odasˆ‰ biz anlamˆ‰yoz bˆ¶yle vahaboglu: ok baskanb: 4 pikin ˆ ansˆ‰ yˆ…ksek exerdar: ♣ kupu :) vahaboglu: tek ♣ ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰yor jtr: South is probably marked as 3433.. K.. 2 aap00: and looks like thaey make it toral5: 8 tricks atleast vahaboglu: bu deklerasyon forcing herhalde vahaboglu: yoksa neden 3NT desin vahaboglu : Salvonun oynadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ sistemi bilen bir babayiˆ it aranˆ‰yormuˆ diˆ er odada.. 3..♣Q..♣J toral5: now ..♣3 aap00: or not... if now begse: slm lar arkadaslar funtay : ZABUNOˆ LU - YILANKIRAN bu devre 0 -3 bord 3 atabey: hosgeldin sefim..♣K champ i: hoˆ geldin nafiz abi aap00: perfect.. 4 champ i: slm rahmi begse: mrb.. A baskanb: bˆ¶cek var ya o bilir oynamˆ‰ˆ lˆ‰ˆ ˆ ‰ vardˆ‰r benim bildiˆ im vahaboglu: merhabalar vugraphzzy: forcing oynuyolar.. 8 vahaboglu: belli tez: mrb.kolay gelsin:) akgul: obur mac ilk devre sonucunu bilen varmi? funtay: slm.. 6 funtay: merhaba baskanb: mrb abi hg :) f_aydogdu: enver nerde kaldˆ‰:)..♣2..♠3 begse: bugˆ…n seyahat vardˆ‰ ˆ imdi dˆ¶ndˆ… m ondan yoktuk bˆ…tˆ…n gˆ…n toral5: accurate shift for minus 1..♣A..♣4 funtay: nasil nerde kaldi Fiko?..♠6 exerdar: 69-0 Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran vahaboglu: de atak edilebilirdi..♠4..♠Q f_aydogdu: yorumcu olarak elenen geliyoya..♠2 © - 11 - ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ © Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) akgul: off..♣5 atabey: bi de kˆ¶r valeyi ucursa yapacak nerdeyse :) © © ¨ © ¨ © ama pik pasi atip 2 baticak.. T..♣9..♣7..♣T.. 7..♣8.. 8..♣6 tez: iyi konuˆ uldu iyi oynandˆ‰ bence.. 9.. 6.. 3..♠8..♠T..♠J..♠K exerdar: =?.. 9.. K.. A.. J.. Q..♠7.. 5.. 2 champ i: ice yanlˆ‰ˆ lˆ‰k mˆ‰ var vugraphzzy: yok ama bende anlamadˆ‰m bi anda = oldu dediler vugraphzzy: lˆ¶velerde dogru gidiyodu © © © © © © ¨ Board 3 this/total IMPs NS: Izmir BSBS 72 EW: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 8 84 o 4♠ S -1 50 c 3N W -3 300 3 5 ♠A 6 3 2 9 853 7 8 KQ7 32 4 ♣9 ♠ K10 N ♠9 4 KQ4 A10 6 W E J10 8 6 954 S ♣AK 7 4 ♣ Q J10 8 6 ♠Q J 8 7 5 5 3 J972 5 A 5 ♣5 3 2 8 140 N: Assael Open S: Kubac N E W: Bilgin W 1N p 2♣ p §A,9,Q,5 ©Q,5,T,J §J,2,4,ª2 ªQ,K,A,4 #1 W:: #3 W:: #5 E:: #7 S:: E: Aydin S p 4♠ X p ©K,3,6,2 ©4,8,A,7 ¨2,4,A,6 ª3,9,J,T #2 W:: #4 W:: #6 N:: #8 N:: iceking: alot with 2 bal hands 11hcp reach 4♠ here vugraphzyv: Hello everyone sharkey: Each round consist of 8 board and the scoring is on IMPs converted to VPs - max score per round is 60-0 sfoxa: Full list of participants looks impressive we have a little more time to examine it http:// www.slavacup.com/list.of.participants.htm vugraphzyv: Hello Walddk4: http://www.bridgemoscow.ru/tournaments /results/slava11/slava11t16r.htm for results and running scores. sfoxa: Hello to all. Round 12 of Slava Cup is about to start vugraphzyv: Hello sga1: Hi all sfoxa: hello to all - round 13 of Slava Cup hedyg: suspense for NS - 12 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) sfoxa: for those who joined us now - this event hedyg: they were vice european junior champions consists of 2 independent groups, Top-16 especially invited by organizers hedyg: NS in 6th place sfoxa: splits are awful for each side playing..p daman: Hi John vugraphzyv: Hello sfoxa: welcome to the 7th round of Slava Cup, the most prestigeous tournament in Russia ..1N sfoxa: tournament site http://www.slavacup.com /tournament.htm garnetts: Good morning everyone sfoxa : Hello Bob. re-hi Ivan, our splendid operator andyv: hello ao all sfoxa: hello Sudhir, re-hi Ivan sga1: Hi Sveta sfoxa: http://www.bridgemoscow.ru/tournaments /results/slava11/slava11t16r.htm for current standing andyv: hi Sudhir, Sveta and Ivan, our operator sfoxa: and Top-40 - part of them invited as well, second part - for recent sports achievement hedyg : NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/ documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostendeuropean/OpenTeams/israel/Herbst-Herbst.pdf vugraphzyv: hello..2♣! sfoxa: re-hi vugraphzyv: Hello sfoxa: Polish experience vs. Dutch drive sfoxa : EW may well land in 3NT having 25 points, but the mission of collecting 9 tricks may be impossible hedyg: 4 not everybodies choice kjadams: Gawrys/Tuszinski are leading, Herbst/ Herbst are 3rd hedyg: we have no CC for EW, sry jcwla: 20-20 hand. W has no call over 1♠... sfoxa: EW can hardly win the bidding, although... sfoxa: let’ see sfoxa: Hello to all - round 6 of Slava Cup is about to start jcwla: Nothing like a slam to start things off. Walddk4: Welcome to Marek Wˆ‡jcicki mareczek: hi all :) jcwla: Hi Marek, Roland, John, Ivan. andyv: welcome all sfoxa : N showed and ♣ two-suiter and E seems to be happy to dbl..4♠ hedyg: preempt over preempt kjadams: With one match to go, 1st is 30 VPs ( Half a full match score) ahead of Lauria/Versace in ..1978? and until last year played rather rarely together mareczek: Gromow Dubinin play strong club, Precision style..p sfoxa : for those who joined as today - this tournament consist of 2 groups, Top-16 and Top40 andyv: Ivan Volozhenin will be our operator andyv: hi Sveta sfoxa: we are following the first one and current standing is here http://www.bridgemoscow.ru/ tournaments/results/slava11/slava11t16r.htm sfoxa: hello Andy andyv: low ♠ will net this contract sga1: 5 seems to be makeable contract andyv: W does not have an easy lead but the K ♠ would make the papers sga1: with low ♠, even 3N will score hedyg: i love the 2NT by Gawrys protecting his Q ! as well as the ♠ honours sfoxa : the runners-up - Lauria-Vercase are playing vs. Gromov-Dubinin - not an easy opps hedyg: by not opening 1♣ his hand is limited iceking: dont think S should upgrade his hand ..p mareczek: Herbst brother play natural system with transfer responses after 1♣ opening bobholl: could be 3NT NS hedyg: ( i am counting on our Polish specs to help me out ) othered1: south upgrades to 12, OK with 2.5 honor tricks, I guess..p vugraphzyv: hi to all andyv: 2N maybe an inquiry as to type of raise sfoxa: EW are leaders now hedyg: there go the losers chessmaste: North might have doubled 4 hedyg: he might have done a lot of things, like consider slam opposite AQ chessmaste: Depends on your preemptive style hedyg: except he has probably seen his pd’s 3 openings before hedyg: yes hi Mark :) hedyg: anyhow 4 has not left him space to explore hedyg: results and standings: http://www.bridgemoscow.ru /tournaments/results/slava11/slava11t16r.htm hedyg: very long think iceking: make little sense to me..♣A sharkey: 3 NT a challenge - 4♠ better sfoxa: anyway, not a coffee-board for a start sharkey: nope - East may have overbid slightly - ¨ ¨ © - 13 - ¨ © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) © © a little to good for 3♠ over 3 . Needs to take finesse I think sfoxa: definitely sharkey: West looking at ♠Q and A.... sfoxa: his 10th trick mareczek: Herbst brothers, sorry mareczek: they both use the same system :) sfoxa: current standing is here http://www.bridgemoscow.ru /tournaments/results/slava11/slava11t16r.htm rmb1: Only nine tricks in spades iceking : 5-3-3-2 shape bad suit cant see the reason..♣9 jillan: with a system as this I agree with Magnus jcwla: A false preference to 2♠ would be better, perhaps those ’s looked like six to N. sfoxa: welcome to the 3rd round of Slava Cup http://www.slavacup.com/tournament.htm..♣Q sfoxa: and current standing of Top-16 http:// www.bridgemoscow.ru/tournaments/results/ slava11/slava11t16r.htm kjadams: this missing heart Q will stop this at 6. sfoxa : it’s a pairs event with IMPs scoring across the field, so the scores that appear should be considered indirectly sfoxa: S has to assess the size of his bad luck hedyg: great spots in kjadams: agree on the 2N. Very nice call. Right sides hand, and he can infer help in Hearts from auction. daman: it will be hard to defeat this one othered1: well judged..♣5 jillan: would need at least another 10 LOL othered1: I guess 1N was just generic pointshowing, so south had to bid iceking: assume now S has shown 12-13hcp with 5♠ mareczek: Dubinin assumed that partner does not have xxx sfoxa: N will have to find 4 discards on s hedyg: there is his 9th trick iceking: N took a very good view stop now, i would be little bid interested in 3nt looking at his hand.. K sfoxa: getting fit, W will bid game hedyg: he can play the s himself for 2 tricks sfoxa: EW did their best to win the bidding.. 3 sfoxa: agree. but even now, N can manage his tricks garnetts: 3♠ is clearly showing a spade shortage andyv: slam a poor proposition sfoxa: at the tournament web-site, one can find the participants lists (quite impressive) and results © © © ¨ © ¨ © © © for both groups - Top-16 and Top-40.. 6 sfoxa: Brink-Driver won round 1 and are still doing well jcwla: Not even a false preference in this case. sfoxa: tournament is being played in 2 groups Top 16 includes mostly international stars (LauriaVersace, ex.) garnetts: Something of an overbid in my view sfoxa: and Top-40 - mainly Russian players, but with invited guests as well hedyg: must play before to get to the 2nd trick sfoxa: that’s better line than playing ♣ - when S comes on lead, he’ll return ♠ kjadams: Diamond to dummy, heart to the T wins in North has the King. bobholl: difficult decision now but anything is good.. 2 Walddk5: Good afternoon to Hedy Grey hedyg: hello :) hedyg: hi Bob :) hedyg: and hello to Yvan , our operator sfoxa: looks like organizers intended to provide each nation with BBO-starring opportunity here, whereas Open room is occupied by LauriaVersace sfoxa: hello Hedy hedyg: hi Sveta :) hedyg: pls dont send our specs to the OR :( sfoxa: young Bessis is attractive to watch as well :) hedyg: they all 4 are hedyg: 4 very talented young players sfoxa: definitely sfoxa: NS - one of the best Russian pair, national representetatives lot of times.. Q sfoxa: helping hand from defence? sfoxa: for 10th trick rmb1: Help = playing diamonds for declarer hedyg: so their CC says nv random preempt, vuln disciplined sfoxa : when in dbld partscore, always lead trump - this regulation rarely sucks .. 5 andyv: 18 hcp responding hands hard to keep down andyv : EW will not be able to generate 4 tricks so 3N will make sfoxa: looks impossible.. T sfoxa: it seems, EW have no game to play hedyg: hardly with 20 hcps in N kjadams: do not need double finesse that way hedyg: i love spotcards :) daman: timing is everything © © ¨ © © © © © - 14 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) kjadams: If south has king, contract probably doomed, so a heart now seems sensible. Walddk2: Even 2 is too high.. J othered1: Our operator, William Hernebrink, advises sys on after W 1 , 1NT on 1♣ 8-11 balanced hand .. 4 sfoxa: 3 by NS looks good, even game is possible with non-accurate defence rmb1: The Polish specs agree it is not possible kjadams: Hello stewball: hi all sfoxa: hi John sfoxa: and hi John :) jcwla: Presumably 5♣ is one keycard, 5 asks for the Q, and 5 denies it - 5NT is a surprise but they’ve stopped in the making small slam... 8 andyv: this should fail even on a lead andyv: unlikely to lead a ♣ here andyv: E will probably settle for a lead bobholl: i would play small now but i guess he knows better than that.. A andyv: lead will be ok but auction doesn’t call for it sfoxa: :) andyv: why is E leading?.. 7 andyv: N will need to get back to hand and lead ♠ to board..♣J kjadams: Two John’s today I can go by KJ if it helps :-)..♣2 andyv: something awry here hedyg: after 8 rounds EW are 5th, NS 10th..♣4 sga1: N is declarer..♠2 hedyg: rather than show count in S showed suit preference in ♣ kjadams: From North’s perspective, Ace of clubs in South is enough. KQ is disappointing. andyv: lol...my 3rd line of bidding disappeared!.. 2.. 4 jcwla: It is understandable why N might choose to bid 2 , this is the type of hand that could make a game with the right holding and some extras in S. Also, the suit has nice ..... A jcwla: texture. andyv: if he does other way he has 2 losers in ♠ s andyv: I thought they stopped at 3N.. 6 sga1: :) sfoxa: scent of chance: ♠ to the table, ruff and concede ♣..♠Q sfoxa: hoping S has no more ♣s sfoxa: and the chance of finding A second © © © © © © © ¨ © © ¨ © ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ © © ¨ ¨ ¨ - 15 - © remains sfoxa: 4of ♠ is an entry chessmaste: North might have led a heart at trick one daman: take the money and run iceking: he has a very good 11 i would say..♠K andyv: but, either way it’s a guess and N did well here Walddk2: William plays the same system and is able to explain when he alerts. Excellent!..♠A garnetts: The cards are very forgiving for NS --63 spade break plus both aces in west hand iceking: maybe he needs to downgrade his hands if his pd is always upgrading:)..♠4 sfoxa: in Poland, they say: luck is a privilege of a strong player bobholl: the 9th trick hurrah :) jillan: yeah, know about THAT setup..♠3 garnetts: These days everyone overbids so it will be a likely flat board :) sfoxa: ouch! hedyg: results: http://www.bridgemoscow.ru/ tournaments/results/slava11/slava11t16r.htm kjadams: I suspect sacrificing trumps and then tapping dummy would have netted another on defense. rmb1: We missed that chance..♠9 garnetts: It is true that a more passive lead might beat it --but we would all lead a spade except that the 3NT bid seems to indiicate two stops ..♠J andyv: another martini..♠T Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) Board 3 this/total IMPs NS: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 8 84 EW: Izmir BSBS 72 o 4♠ S -1 50 c 3N W -3 300 3 5 ♠A 6 3 2 9 853 7 8 KQ7 32 4 ♣9 ♠ K10 N ♠9 4 KQ4 A10 6 W E J10 8 6 954 S ♣AK 7 4 ♣ Q J10 8 6 ♠Q J 8 7 5 5 3 J972 5 A 5 ♣5 3 2 8 140 W N: CAN Closed S: UNAL N E 1N 2 3N p p p W: ERBIL ¨ ¨ ¨ ª ¨ ª ª § ª © 2♣ 2N p E: BILGEN S p p p p ª ¨ § ¨ ª § ª § © #1 N:: 3,4,A,T #2 S:: Q,K,A,4 #3 N:: K,5, 5, 6 #4 N:: Q,9, 2, 8 #5 N:: 6,9,J,T #6 S:: 8, 4, 2, 6 #7 S:: 7, 7, 3, 6 jtr: Spec points out that the Q was better jtr: Denying the entry for another finesse vahaboglu: !K ataˆ ˆ‰na deblokaj veya sayˆ‰ oynanˆ‰yor vahaboglu: ♣K vahaboglu: genelde hobakan: biz Tˆ…rkler olarak :) vahaboglu: 5 da olmuyordu ˆ¶nceki el begse: eller kanlˆ‰ 2 ci ˆ lem gnd millet vahaboglu: evet T.C. sˆ‰nˆ‰rlarˆ‰nda vahaboglu: hoˆ geldin Nafiz abi hobakan: gnd abi exerdar: gˆ…naydˆ‰n abi baskanb: eski bir kˆ‰zˆ‰lderili numarasˆ‰dˆ ‰r riyilikci: yari finalin sondevresi 18.40 ..p jtr: Although declarer can duck..1N tez: ilker ˆ§ubukˆ§u ve soner ˆ§ubukˆ§u ikiz.ikisi de iyi briˆ§ˆ§i..p ¨ vahaboglu: claimi dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nmemiˆ tik..2♣ toral5: choice of opening lead in the main role ¨ now..p..2 xenya: 1N upgraded i believe exerdar: 3♠ dese iyiydi tez: ilk elde yerden atarak yuzde yuze yakˆ‰ ndˆ‰ vahaboglu: 4 ..p hobakan: deal master formda mˆ‰ yani ? vahaboglu: sonrasˆ‰ gelir funtay: ˆ¶nce elenmenin sokunu atlatmalarini bekliyoruz yorumcu olabilmeleri iˆ§in:) aap00: 12-15 1nt..2N toral5: very bold 4c by lauria siyabend: selamlar iyi yorumlar aap00: 1-2 seat..p xenya: oh sorry then funtay: kendimede aynisini uyguladim 1 gˆ…n yetiyor:) funtay: slm..3N f_aydogdu : :))tezcan erken atlatmˆ‰s soku ozaman 1 sate geldi exerdar: kˆ¶re 2 kaptˆ‰rmaz ise ˆ lem sorunsuz gˆ¶rˆ…nˆ…yor..p yusufb: izmirbˆ…yˆ…ksehir yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran ve zabonoglu oluˆ an farktan dolayˆ‰ rakiplerinin son devreye cˆ‰kmamasˆ‰ndan dolayˆ‰ yarˆ ‰ finale cˆ‰ktˆ‰lar..p arigun: 2 ’le iyi basladi turgay denk geldi, 2!nt rebid etse karisabilirdi isle yusufb: zabunoglu sory jtr : It was his way of getting round the lead problem:)..p toral5: :) atabey : ayberg bi uyar bence. sonuna kadar yanlis skorla devam etmeyelim exerdar: dˆ¶nˆ…ˆ ˆ…ne olurdu ,ˆ anssˆ‰z el olabilir ˆ zmir icin vugraphzzy: yok dogru mert naptˆ‰ abi sen dedi jtr: Now West has the lead problem.. 3 jtr: Nicely solved yusufb: bu arada bˆ…tˆ…n kadˆ‰nlarˆ‰mˆ‰zˆ ‰n dˆ…nya kadˆ‰nlar gˆ…nˆ…nˆ… kutluyoruz tez: ben 3♠ derdim kuzeyin eliyle..ortak tutmuyorsa 3nt der zaten toral5: yes.. 4 tez: kaybetmeye alˆ‰ˆ amadˆ‰m hala.bu nasˆ‰ l tecrˆ…beyse:) vahaboglu: ♠ oynanˆ‰rsa vahaboglu: biraz zorlar vahaboglu : markalarˆ‰ kurtarabilir ama oyuncu bulabilir mi ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ - 16 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) f_aydogdu: gecen elde aslˆ‰nda tenposu zor oyun batabilir sayˆ‰ potansiyeli var elin vahaboglu: batmasˆ‰ iˆ§in ˆ¶nce Dam oynayˆ‰ p empas atmasˆ‰ sonra da Asˆ‰ ˆ§ekmesi lazˆ ‰m.. A vahaboglu: Turgay ˆ¶yle oynamaz begse: bu ne arigun: oyle bir oyun varmi ki ? :) vahaboglu: koz Q sorusu vahaboglu: varsa ˆ ilem diyelim dedi begse: as sayˆ‰sˆ‰nda anlasamadˆ‰lar? vahaboglu : yok markanˆ‰n da ˆ¶nemi yok galiba vahaboglu: ancak o taraftan oynamak ne derece doˆ ru champ i: h oynamˆ‰ˆ olabilirmi hˆ… alˆ‰nca erdinˆ§ arigun: atila ♣Q sevdi galiba .. T toral5: declarer in severe crisis..♠Q aap00: in 3n: lead gives 8th trick, after that decl can cash all forcing N to discard 3♠ and . ♣A, A and brings him home..♠K..♠A.. ♠4 jtr: Versace in dire need of a helicopter to get to hand toral5: think was was better toral5: can b reciprocated now also with king vahaboglu: herhalde begse: iyi dˆ…zeltti tez: nasˆ‰l kurtulacak? tez: atak edilse bayaˆ ˆ‰ korkacaktˆ‰:) atabey: 3NT oldu yani. tekrar teyit edermisin vahaboglu: mecbur As ˆ§ekecek.. K yusufb: bu maˆ§ˆ‰n galiba yarˆ‰ finalde izmir bˆ…yˆ…ksehirin rakibi olacak begse: necdette rua kˆ¶r kapar 5-3 trefl vardˆ‰r diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ndˆ… arigun: yusuf klavyen F mi Q mu ? champ i: 9 lu karo koymasaydˆ‰ iyiydi vahaboglu: ikinciyi almalˆ‰ydˆ‰.. 5 champ i: yalˆ§ˆ‰n sende noter gibisin valla jtr: well done..♠5 vahaboglu: FB.. 6 toral5: anything but ace:).. Q aap00: don’t believe in A jtr: Partner marked with the Q for his opening toral5: yes vahaboglu: senden ˆ¶nce davrandˆ‰m.. 9 toral5: especially aftr ♣ ace..♣2 aap00: pd is not marked with Q, 1nt is 12-15.. 8 jtr: Oh i see ¨ ¨ © ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ - 17 - ¨ toral5: variable 1nt.is it? aap00: but without it he cud play help © himself to toral5: i thought 14-16 jtr: Me too toral5: q at trick 2 wd ve solved problems for ¨ west jtr: Gawrys made 3NT on a ♠ lead..♠6..♠9 tez: iyi defans.normal oyun vahaboglu: veya ilkini akgul: evet, herkes kuvvetli el oynasin ve kapali kalsin diye hemen 3nt diyor:) vahaboglu: oyunda sorun var gibi..♠J vahaboglu: 2. ♣ alˆ‰nmalˆ‰ydˆ‰ bence aap00: y..♠T jtr: Now the guess xenya: how did he do that jtr: Would Gromov have thought so long with A9 doubleton? toral5: actually 3nt makes cos of spots and NO entry to souths hand atabey: imkansiz ama tez: ikinci ♣ i alˆ‰p as ˆ§ekip oynasa ♠ dˆ ¶nˆ…ˆ ˆ…de avantaj saˆ lˆ‰yordu..gˆ…neyden ♠ oynanˆ‰rsa sorun yoktu..♠8..♣4 aap00: 8 top tricks and 9th comes as bonus on the run of ’s..♠2..♣6..♠7 jtr: Well, as Alex said, it is complicated on a lead xenya: yes i see it now aap00: but needs good cardreading atabey: abi naptin sen durumu gercekten :)..♣7.. ♠3.. 6 © ¨ ¨ © ¨ © Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) Board 4 this/total IMPs NS: Izmir BSBS 72 EW: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 1 85 o 3N S 3 600 c 3N S 4 630 4 9 ♠ A K10 7 10 J 7 8 QJ53 10 ♣10 9 6 3 ♠9 8 6 N ♠5 4 3 10 8 7 4 3 Q5 2 W E A98 K10 7 2 S ♣8 5 ♣A Q 4 ♠Q J 2 4 3 AK 9 6 6 64 5 ♣K J 7 2 3 620 W: Bilgin W p p p p p N: Assael Open S: Kubac N E p p p 1 1♠ p 3♣ p p p ¨ ©4,J,Q,A §T,A,2,8 ©8,¨3,©2,K ªJ,9,K,4 §9,4,7,5 §J,©3,¨5,2 #1 W:: #3 N:: #5 W:: #7 S:: #9 N:: #11 S:: E: Aydin S 1♣ 1 1N 3N © ª © § ª ª ¨ © ¨ § ¨ ¨ #2 S:: 2,8,T,3 #4 E:: 5,9,T, 3 #6 S:: Q,6,7,5 #8 N:: A, 7, 6, 8 #10 N:: 6,Q,K, 9 #12 S:: 4,A,, sfoxa: hello to Ivan, our operator. What is the weather in Moscow today? Must have been cold. hedyg: even being last in this field is excellent :p kjadams: Love to know what 5N requested. Certainly Jxxxxx would be a good Grand... jcwla: For most 5NT would confirm the presence of all keycards and the queen of trumps. andyv: this slam well under 50% andyv: NS should get to 3N at this vul chessmaste: A solid result for the winners jillan: ormally not good when one puts on the breaks all the time and the other one has the gas pedal well footedf..p Walddk2: 1♣ by N now, can be 15-17 balanced garnetts: 4♠ will depend on how the spade suit is tackled andyv: anyway score is the same iceking: alot of pdships actually work like that..p kjadams: but not after the Queen ask and denial sfoxa: with 25 points, EW have no game to play, but NS can compete till 3♠..p rmb1: Likely 3NT..1♣ bobholl: wheather he open 3 or 1♣ they will reach 3nt stewball: 3nt coming sga1: Double Dummy, 13 tricks in NT sfoxa: EW may well land in 6 garnetts: it is a complete guess ..p sfoxa: one more example of contemporary style 1 opening hedyg: too good for a 3♣ opening kjadams: She’s not sung yet. 30 VP lead going into final match on a 60 point scale is not a lock. sharkey : Any game here’s a challenge.... perhaps 4 the better..1 hedyg: Polish ♣ opening sfoxa: EW can rich 4 here, tough this contract have no play seemingly sfoxa: NS have enough for the game, but bidding it looks easier than making..p hedyg: 6♣ is on with the finesse sga1: 6 shud be final spot daman: the Herbst’s are in 3rd place vugraphzyv: Hello to all..1 sfoxa: and EW - famous and experienced pair from the Netherlands bobholl: after the double 6♣ looks good sfoxa: rather marked with dbl andyv: should be alble to make it without much problem andyv: able sharkey: Assume 2 transfer to 2 ..p garnetts: actaully I am talking rubbish--need a coffee--you can’t really get it wrong can you? hedyg: now he just has to make it sfoxa : W could lead a small ♠ giving the contract, but with E on lead this game looks like impossible sga1: What system EW r playing? vugraphzyv: very cold)..1♠ sfoxa : this time, looks easier as in previous board andyv: another no play contract...unfortunately tough to stay out of sfoxa: if ♠ will be lead, declarer has to cash 2 top s in attempt to pitch ♠ loser on thereafter andyv: yes, and will make 7 that way ¨ ¨ © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ © © - 18 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) sfoxa: so we, but they have different mind sfoxa: looks like..p jcwla: A pretty moth-eaten vul opener but nothing sits too badly here. rmb1: or not sfoxa: commentator’s curse :) sfoxa: I’d opt for 3nt as well, but... sfoxa: this time, another red suit must be ruffed to bring success for defence rmb1: Declarer can probably survive a ruff by South sfoxa: For S, it’s hard to imagine ruff is of no use this time sfoxa: so, the right time to stick to the bridge table for round the day :)..1N hedyg: or as Michael Barel says setting up the 5th ♠ hedyg: marked is assuming , W could well have the Q sharkey: 4♠ may be ok too..p sfoxa: NS can overboard easily sfoxa: first board played was a good illustration of normal matter of course: bid what you have and lead what you have. Suppose, it will be repeated several times. andyv: I don’t know of too many Ws that would lead a low ♠ from that holding but I’m sure they are out there! sfoxa: yes. the first one was from the topic "don’ t show it to beginners", but this one is notmal othered1: south looks at this fine spot and is happy he’s not vulnerable..3♣ sfoxa: yes, both and ♣ are 3-3 sfoxa: altough without it, EW would hardly bid game queen :) bobholl: as he has the kjadams : Even with poor guessing this one should come home stewball: declarer doesnt know everything is sitting perfectly\ kjadams : 9 with bad guesses, 11 with good guesses. stewball: ♠ seems to be 4/4 that will help kjadams : Lot’s of speculation that it’s extra length ask. Seems reasonable, but can’t confirm. hedyg: unavoidable 4 sfoxa: they are over 3nt, seemingly 4 finishes the bidding..p lead sfoxa: but E can survive without sfoxa: no, he couldn’t hedyg: i dont see how sfoxa: I was wrong ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © ¨ - 19 - © garnetts: I agree Sveta--everyone opens this sort of hand these days--except me--I prefer RothStone ideology where first and second seat bids are sound ..3N sfoxa: I can find 1 losing option: playing ♠J in the first round of the suit rmb1: Presumably East will run the 10 once he has checked his calculations hedyg: a question of timing now sfoxa: I’d like to know what did 1♠ bid mean..p sfoxa: as a kibitser pointed out, S like his hand much more than it’s worth..p sfoxa: and only lead will beat this contract rmb1: Open room playing faster (3 boards scored). Open room NS did not let through 4S on 27. 10IMP to Dutch sfoxa: even now, return creates problem for declarer andyv: :) sga1: May be 4th suit force sga1: if natural bidding sga1: any one knows system of EW? sfoxa: I was told exactly the same by several French specs. Merci. sfoxa: 4th-suit, game forcing othered1: and not doubled..p iceking: i would have liked N to bal with 1nt here instead of dbl sharkey: Trump lead best sharkey: But East on lead losers on ♣ will sfoxa : attempt to pitch reduce W trump holding destined to 2 tricks anyway with this split sharkey: This plays better from N - else ♠ lead wud also disrupt communicarions sfoxa: even with E hand, trump start looks better than any other sharkey: *communications continuation after ♠A sfoxa: with hedyg: of course a defensive mistake is always possible, but at this level we do not expect too many of those sfoxa : declarer sees a lot of possibilities, I suppose.. 4 sfoxa: so, the question is which one to choose? sharkey: This is IMP scoring and the scores from all 8 tables are included. On the Movie button you’ll see the score from the other BBO table, but the IMP score may not be correct. sharkey: I think all options are losing ones Sveta sfoxa: we are aware of it, not so declarer sfoxa : let’s see, how it goes. Should admit, © © © © © ¨ Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) trump lead created the biggest bundle of problems for declarer sfoxa: *normal, sorry hedyg: and he has it right.. J sfoxa: juicy result for NS.. Q mareczek: 2♣ - they play double checkback, so 2♣ showed any invitational hand sga1: Also they seem to be playing 1 rebid forcing. andyv: N has impossible task of finding a ♠ lead sfoxa: N should decide for ♠ lead, even from his unattractive (for lead) holding sfoxa: suit - is a base one of E, lead looks like being for nothing lead coming up andyv: looks like a sfoxa: at least, with lead N wouldn’t help declarer, yes sga1: unbid suit is ♠ sfoxa: there are we seeing ♠Q by S, not so N :) sga1: with ♠ lead he may well sell the contract, he doesn’t know. sga1: spec says 3NT by W says 4-card ♠ suit sfoxa: right time for lead hedyg: not happy to lead from K hedyg: might play sfoxa: is ok, not so ♣ hedyg: Roland will need to make a new list of slow players sfoxa: so this N quest is rather for feeling, not for logic.. A garnetts: South is trying to find a way of defeating this --but he can see there is virtually none by now unless a club trick is on the way ..♠2 jcwla: This hand could conceivably depend on W ’s rebid after 1 - if W is on lead to NT, has an easy ♣ lead that might make the difference. kjadams: This is a really impressive event. 16 of the best players in the world competing for $10, 000 Top Prize hedyg: even coming last is prestigeous! bobholl: but 5th ♠ will develop..♠8 daman: prestige isn’t translated into cash unfortunately :) jcwla: N that is...♠T hedyg: voila the ..♠3 hedyg: H sfoxa : this time, altough, both declarer and defence are on the thin path. 8 tricks aren’t the question, but if somebody bids game.....♣T sfoxa: this tournament was nominated to the best bridge event in Russia in 2007, giving Russian player "live" expereince of meeting Hacketts or © © © ¨ © © © © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ Zia at the table sfoxa: lead was a kind of trap for declarer playing this suit by himself, he’ll rather find A onsite ..♣A rmb1: Yes now succeed for defence andyv: that lead was not worth the wait sfoxa: even ♠ brings a trick now ..♣2 rmb1: Oh othered1: Did the double distinguish between possible hands?..♣8 sfoxa: that way seems better than other options andyv: althouth 3N may be normal, W opening 1 ♠ might have slowed N down with only 1 ♠ stopper. andyv: either way, EW didn’t have to strain too hard on this defense... 5.. 9 kjadams: club shift found in time.. T andyv: claim time sga1: true hedyg: hmmm -1 now instead of -2 sfoxa: case closed..♣3 hedyg: i doubt everybody will bid this slam.. 8 bobholl: i guess only 1/3.. 3 hedyg: if that many.. 2 sfoxa: altought the battle isn’t over.. K daman: +90..♠Q sharkey: East ♠ duck may be expensive..♠6..♠ 7..♠5 sharkey: Makes now - huge score to Drijver rmb1: This was good enough. But declarer could succeed on the unlikely line of ruffing a ♣ honour, discarding 10 on K sfoxa: exactly iceking : probably just takout, 1 ♣ though is limited to max 17hcp so with this pattern and texture of the hand i would have bid 1nt playing this system..♠J..♠9 sfoxa: S has to return ♣ to make declarer feel uncomfortable..♠K..♠4..♠A mareczek: I think that S should bid 4♠ splinter after 3 .. 7.. 6.. 8 mareczek: than NS could stop before slam sfoxa: yes, would have been better sfoxa: that is expensive indeed..♣9..♣4 andyv: an expensive venture andyv: but result may be duplicated in other room..♣7 sfoxa : I got a lot of comments from specs ( thanks to all of you) with detailed description how N should have played ..♣5..♣6..♣Q..♣K.. 9..♣J.. 3.. 5.. 2 ¨ ¨ © © © © © ¨ © © © ¨ ¨¨ © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ - 20 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) Board 4 this/total IMPs NS: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 1 85 EW: Izmir BSBS 72 o 3N S 3 600 c 3N S 4 630 4 9 ♠ A K10 7 10 J 7 8 QJ53 10 ♣10 9 6 3 ♠9 8 6 N ♠5 4 3 10 8 7 4 3 Q5 2 W E A98 K10 7 2 S ♣8 5 ♣A Q 4 ♠Q J 2 4 3 AK 9 6 6 64 5 ♣K J 7 2 3 620 W: ERBIL W p p p p N: CAN Closed S: UNAL N E p p p 1♠ 2N p p p © § ª ª ¨ § © ¨ © ¨ E: BILGEN S 1 1N 3N ¨ ª © § ª § §¨ © ¨© ¨ - 21 - ilk defa bu kadroyla oynuyor..p vahaboglu: bu vugraf son devre kadrosu vahaboglu: galiba gruptan ˆ§ˆ‰karken de aynˆ ‰ oynadˆ‰lar..1♠..p vahaboglu: uˆ ur getiriyor diye yusufb: sok kadroda diyebilirmiyiz yusufb: ˆ ok vahaboglu: evet ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰ˆ tan ˆ¶nceki vahaboglu: 2 nedir vahaboglu: 4♠ vahaboglu: cue bid herhalde..1N vahaboglu: ama o kadar eli yok begse: kˆ¶r atagˆ‰na 4 ♠ nasˆ‰l oynarsˆ‰nˆ ‰z vahaboglu: der arigun: A ..p begse: ♣ kupuna gidince batˆ‰yor kˆ¶r alˆ‰p k ˆ¶re yapabilir vahaboglu: PSˆ ˆ ˆ K Mˆ atabey: ben gˆ¶rmedim dicem. sahitlikten kaciyo dicekler. ayberg sahit. biz deiliz toral5: very strange that gawrys made 1nt..2N..p..3N aap00: even with falling ♠ Q 7 tricks looks like too much toral5: i m sure he wd ve got a ♣ lead jtr: South pitched a at the other table funtay: 2i.bord deklere ve atak ayni oldu 3nt oynaniyor ˆ¶bˆ…r tarafta tez: ♣ atak istediˆ i iˆ§in 5li 5li ♣ ten 1♣ aˆ§t ˆ‰.. tez: 2 derse kuzey herkes pas derdi toral5: ♣ lead allows on a right guess..p vahaboglu: ˆ¶yleymiˆ akgul: 1 iyi bulus exerdar: :)) funtay: herkese merhaba tez: ortaklarˆ‰ nasˆ‰l 4 demiyor..bu el demez de champ i: hoˆ geldin tayfun exerdar: merhaba baskanb: mrblarrrr akgul: erbil umitlenmisti kontrati icin ama vahaboglu: bu aleni belli psiˆ ik olduˆ u tez: sonra baˆ ˆ‰na gelecekleri dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nmˆ… yor mu funtay: ZABUNOˆ LU - YILANKIRAN 11 - 1 bord 2 vahaboglu: eski konvansiyon :) baskanb: kutsalˆ‰ma dokunma deˆ il mi Haldun Abi tez: ama ortak hep 2 demezki..bazen splinter © © © ¨ #1 W:: 4,J,Q,A #2 S:: 2,9,A,3 #3 N:: T,A,2,5 #4 E:: 5,6,7, 3 #5 W:: 8,7,4,Q #6 S:: J,6,K,5 #7 N:: T, 7,4,8 #8 N:: 9,4,7,8 #9 N:: 6,Q,K, 3 #10 S:: J, 9,3,2 #11 S:: 6,A,5,T #12 W:: 8, J, 2,9 #13 S:: K,T, Q,K toral5: they surely get imps out of no where.. 4.. A Walddk2: http://www.bridgemoscow.ru/tournaments /results/slava11/slava11t16r.htm..p tez: rua ataklarˆ‰na onor varsa veriyorlar..sayˆ ‰dan baˆ ˆ‰msˆ‰z olarak jtr: But they are sort of helping their contenders..p..p vahaboglu: ok vahaboglu: ˆ imdi mahkemeye gitseler bizi de ˆ ahit tutsalar ne yapacaˆ ˆ‰z Yalˆ§ˆ‰n toral5: now how much is THIS 1nt?..1 ! toral5: yes.they r jtr: Even though scores are excluded aap00: 12-15 aap00: 1-2 seat toral5: ok ¨ yusufb: turnuvada 6spades yanlˆ‰ˆ bilmiyosam ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) yapar.. vahaboglu: olsun 3NT dendimi oynanˆ‰r vahaboglu: bir kaldˆ‰r hele exerdar: kaldˆ‰rˆ‰rsa 4nt oynarlar muhtemelen:) tez: yanlˆ‰ˆ larˆ‰ pek yazmˆ‰yorum ama bu biraz fazla © vahaboglu: ben buna atak ederdim akgul: 8 love var (♣ d bularak) bakalim 9 bulabilecekmi? vahaboglu: fazla gittiler..p arigun: dbl’siz gecti 200 tez: ♣ atak edebilir mert bilgen..ikinci tercih baskanb: Haldun Abi yavaˆ biraz duydu bak vahaboglu: ama dˆ¶nˆ…ˆ sorunlu jtr: Giving 2 tricks..p vahaboglu: ben gˆ¶rdˆ…m ama anlamadˆ‰m © ¨ diyeceˆ im baskanb: bu kˆ¶prˆ…nˆ…n altˆ‰ndan ˆ§ok su akacak gibi duruyor aap00: NS have to discard accurately on the 4-3 ♠’s.. 4 vahaboglu: onu da Erbile e sˆ¶ylesek mi vahaboglu: .. J funtay: J vahaboglu: ufK ˆ Yˆ vahaboglu: kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k vahaboglu: 4♣ kompetisyon niyetli sˆ¶yledi herhalde ama, ˆ¶yle olmadˆ‰.. Q vahaboglu: bˆ¶nceki bord da swing olur Eskiˆ ehir lehine vahaboglu: kontratˆ‰n rakipte kalacaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ bildi yani.. A champ i: 1 nt pas pas gider gibi atabey: kˆ¶prˆ… alti falan bilmem. 3 elde eskisehir normalde one gecti bence. jtr: South can afford a easily..♠2 vahaboglu: ♣ i bulur vahaboglu: daha ˆ§ok var aap00: y..♠9 toral5: no discard issue for south. an easy pitch tez: bulamaz ♣ i bence exerdar: ♣i bulsada 9. lˆ¶vesi yok baskanb: artˆ‰k battˆ‰..♠A vahaboglu: 9 lu iˆ e yaradˆ‰ jtr: It wasnt at the other table..♠3..♣T aap00: and what about N? yu unutup aˆ§ˆ‰labilir de vahaboglu: toral5: its lauria who has to work:)..♣A aap00: ♣ and looks ok vahaboglu: zaten ˆ¶yle de olmaz vahaboglu: ˆ zmir BSBS tecrˆ…beli takˆ‰m jtr: wow..♣2..♣5 toral5: ouch © ¨ ¨© © © © © © ¨ ¨ aap00: same story vahaboglu: yarardˆ‰ baskanb: Killing defans oldu bence toral5: ns play 3rd 5th leads in nt also?.. 5 arigun: ortagi serbest 3 demisken alternatif © ¨ partscore mucadelesi olmamali 3♣ ..©6..©7 vahaboglu: serbest ¨ fiti verilmiˆ ken artˆ‰k trial bid olur baskanb: bu da bir tecrˆ…be olmasˆ‰n abi :) tez: ortakta gˆ…ˆ§ varsa 5li ♣ 4lu var gibi davranˆ‰rˆ‰m dedi...♣3 atabey: valla bu 3NT de oldu dimi. yanlis mi sayiyorum champ i: oldu vahaboglu: zaten olurdu funtay : ZABUNOˆ LU - YILANKIRAN bu devre 0 -4 bord 5 vahaboglu: ben mi yanlˆ‰ˆ gˆ¶rˆ…yorum atabey : 16 noda olabilecek bir oyuna batmis eskisehir. bu hiz kesilirse o ele kalabilir mac exerdar: 5♣ battˆ‰ diˆ er odada vahaboglu: ♠ partaj, ♣ ler iyi yerde vahaboglu: kˆ¶tˆ… fikir deˆ il..♠8 tez: tam oldu artˆ‰ bir deˆ il ayberg tez: ok ˆ¶zˆ…r vugraphzzy: karoya atti korˆ… aap00: W didn’t believe his luck..♠7 vahaboglu: Tazeler haklˆ‰ gibi..♠4 toral5: stil down now..♠Q akgul: dekleran napiyor? toral5: i suppose..♠J jtr: Have to endplay declarer..♠6 aap00: now ♣ to A and ♣ ducked to J toral5: ouch again funtay: biˆ eyler yanlˆ‰ˆ gibi vahaboglu: 3 NT oynuyor vahaboglu: D-B dan 3 alabiliyor ancak ♣ A baˆ ka lˆ¶ve yok..♠K..♠5..♠T toral5: defence did slip a lot here.not expected considering the calibre of these two super players.. 7 tez: aklˆ‰ hala dediˆ i 1 e takˆ‰lˆ‰ kaldˆ‰.. akgul: ele gecerde yok artik baskanb: Erbil-Bilgen ˆ§ok iyi defans yaptˆ‰ bravo.. 4.. 8..♣9..♣4 tez: konuˆ malara kadar geri almazsˆ‰n umarˆ‰ m:)..♣7..♣8..♣6..♣Q..♣K.. 3..♣J.. 9.. 3.. 2.. 6.. A ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ - 22 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) Board 5 this/total IMPs NS: Izmir BSBS 72 EW: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 85 o 3N W -1 50 c 3N W -1 50 5 5 ♠Q J 8 6 5 10 6 4 4 7 A9832 3 ♣4 ♠AK 9 5 N ♠10 7 3 82 A J953 W E K Q10 7 S ♣ J10 7 6 ♣A Q 8 5 ♠4 2 8 8 KQ7 8 J654 6 ♣K 9 3 2 10-9 130 W: Bilgin W 2♣ 2♠ 3N N: Assael Open S: Kubac N E p 1 p 2 p 3♣ p p © © E: Aydin S p p p p ¨3,7,J,Q #2 W::§J,4,5,K ¨4,T,A,©3 #4 N::¨9,©5,¨5,K §6,©6,§Q,2 #6 E::ªT,2,5,Q ¨8,©9,¨6,ª9 #8 N::¨2,©J,ª4,©2 ©4,A,, iceking: nice hand east has here..¨5..¨T..©8..¨ J..©2..©9..©K..©T..¨Q..¨K #1 N:: #3 S:: #5 W:: #7 N:: #9 N:: sfoxa: but we ought remember - being at the table under BBO spot - is a kind of additional pressure. kjadams: Note that North was the "safe hand" Much harder for North to play a 2nd round of spades. stewball: not so much if J was smith jcwla: In any case not sure quite why they propelled to game, looks like an invite rejection to me. hedyg: hmmm no Hacketts and no Zia there sfoxa: not this year sfoxa: even for world class players..p sfoxa: vote for 1 opening from N daman: had South pitched an early ♣ they might have defeated it Walddk4 : http://www.slavacup.com/ for the ¨ © - 23 - tournament website. Click on the USA flag for an English version..1 sfoxa: someone for overcall with E’s hand? sfoxa: ♠ game for NS is easy to play, but what about bid it? jillan: yeah but not together with Pards hand..p othered1: Here’s a good chance for east to get back into the match sfoxa: NT game for EW looks good sfoxa: 6♠ without problem in play, may be hard to bid after N opening sharkey: 4♠ I think is the bid of choice.....2♣! mareczek: another slam sfoxa: after all, we have next board mareczek: 1 transfer sfoxa : isn’t my choice, but I now few who would willing sfoxa: ♠ Q is presumably by N sfoxa: same with previous board - 3nt doesnt look like easy contract andyv: 4 by N... favorable vul for EW will get them in auction andyv: EW probably play ELC with their take out doubles sfoxa: oh, going wrong. this time N decided to remain silent..p sfoxa: so, ♣ and little bit strenght vs. hearts and a little bit lenght sfoxa : oh. I’m wrong. but can’t agree with considering N’s hand as destructive one..2 hedyg: 1 =♠ sfoxa: if E find lead, EW can beat 4 iceking: what should w bid here..p iceking: 3 maybe sfoxa: contemporary openings became lighter till impossible - S hand wasn’t opening worth in accordance with Acol standartds mareczek: http://www.bridgemoscow.ru/tournaments /results/slava11/slava11t16r2.htm sfoxa: this one looks better sfoxa: this wouldn’t prevent EW from bidding high, suppose andyv: S needs to get into this bidding soon sfoxa: Polish Club by EW - 1♣ may include strong opening mareczek: running scoers..2♠ sfoxa: EW would better to stop low hedyg: 1♠ denies 4 cards kjadams: Interesting point John. Smith in that case would say I am known not to have the Jack, therefore encouraging is extra length. Still requires sound agreements. © ¨ © © © ¨ © © Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) andyv: 2♠ inquires as to type of raise (some play it as which suit would responder accept a game try hedyg: NS play acol style with 5 card ♠ sharkey: N Splinter bid 4 - as suggested by kib..p mareczek: scores garnetts: Spotlight on South now stewball: i think the NS action in the OR guaranteed they would bid slam stewball: propelled them kjadams: not to have T. stewball: 4♠ now? kjadams: Zia won last year, playing with Roy Welland Walddk4: Welcome to Roberto Martˆ›nez..3♣ sfoxa: as for me, 2 aces isn’t my dream hand for Multi (desctructive) opening garnetts: well done sfoxa: once more - lucky NS, this time with split garnetts: I think the North hand is too good for a weak two--nearer to a strong two in my view lol :) hedyg: here without transfer bids N could hardly enter the bidding andyv: funny in modern bridge how you can’t get the ♣ suit in the auction (if you are overcaller) after opps open 1♣ sfoxa: 3 rounds of and one more after in with A andyv: ♣ lead jillan: 3NT should make......p jillan: or could anyhow othered1: This hand might work better without the 2♣ opening -- a common result with a minor 1-suiter Walddk2: scroll back :) iceking: horrible hand in any system Walddk2: Yes Ed, but what is your rebid after 1 1M? hedyg: A♠ and 3 s bobholl: they have to defend carefully to beat it sga1: well done andyv: nice lead to find hedyg: 3 shows 5-5, the E hand is limited to 15 hcps by opening 1♠ hedyg : with a stronger hand he would have opened 1♣ sharkey: Today I think all players would open 3rd hand - many also 1. & 2. hand..3N ybob: Hi Roland, hi everyone sfoxa: hello Roberto © © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © ybob: Hello :) ybob: what is 1 by S ? sfoxa: good question ybob: i agree with 1 but i like pass 1♠ ybob: 1 = no 5M sfoxa: declarer has no chance to play ♣ wrong, ¨ ¨ © and 1 trick in ♠ is enough andyv: the price is right for 5♣ sfoxa: that’s only first step, 3 more to follow sfoxa: N can see that lead will rather attack declarer communication line hedyg: our kind Polish specs point out that he is limited to 17 hedyg: i would not deny 4 cards in my 2nd bid even with a minimum opening daman: same here hedyg: :) daman: finding your fit is important in bridge othered1: 2 other major..p othered1: easy andyv : however NS may already be a little shellshocked from the first 2 boards iceking: 2sp probably over 1 if you open 1 ..p Walddk2: Ah, Italian style Walddk2: Excellent treatment iceking: i cant see open this east hand 1 jillan: me neither sharkey: 10 or 11 tricks here - coffee time... sfoxa: oh, really - 3rd hand allows that. I disregarded this "pecularity". ybob: pd shows 5♠ so this shows limits values daman: now they have a bit of trouble daman: 1 - 2 - 3 - 3NT would be too easy sharkey: EW may have missed a good sac..p sfoxa: all in all - ♠ game is cool sfoxa: agree, 1♠ looks better even with 2cards by W hedyg: so 3 was 15-17 5-5 hedyg: ty specs ! jcwla: Not my idea of a red weak 2 in ’s with 12 "berries": A 10 K 9 Q 6 J 5 T 4 9 2 8 1 -would want more like 18. And yet again S defers to N’s "hearts." Really surprised ♠’s not ..... 3 jcwla: mentioned at all, deep position. kjadams: possible auction confusion here? hedyg: this is: oh grrrrrrr he doesnt know i have 4 card fit, i have to show it now iceking: problem doing so is you have such a powerful hand, you will need rest of your bidding trying to recover .. 7 Walddk2: I can because a jump in the other major © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ © © ¨ ¨ - 24 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) is artificial as I play it bobholl: now 3 iceking: and usually end up just guessing .. J Walddk2: Can be a hand too good for a 3 rebid ybob: 5 tricks by EW sfoxa: and points count should help avoid finess hedyg: a slow 3 s :) sfoxa: they would better to stop here sfoxa: in 4NT othered1: Actually, in Kaplan-Sheinwold, it can go 1 -1M - 3 forcing.. Q sfoxa: guessing ♣ right ends declarer’s problems, even if not, he can escape finding W with short but 2 trumps only sfoxa: oh! I’m wrong kjadams: well done andyv: this can make sfoxa: W is on the right track ybob: now K ?..♣J ybob: K shows 3♣ and good time to play another ♠ from N sfoxa: NS have to attack in time ybob: will play from S ybob: K♣ , ♠, and S low stewball: next andyv: 4 probably down 1 on a lead by S jcwla: Evidently...♣4 hedyg: 4NT to play for me..♣5 sfoxa: so for me (and seemingly for S with his black holdings) hedyg: he could cue ♠ or soemthing for slam and why would he want to play slam when he bid 3NT earlier? daman: apparently an immediate 3 shows a strong hand iceking: but it doesnt show a hand to good for 1 opening:)..♣K andyv: unfortunately for the defense, W has one J too many andyv: well done kjadams: I usually punish my partners for pulling me out of 3N by bidding slam. hedyg: yes it does, but over 2 the N hand is nice othered1: showing a hand you’d have opened 2 ♣ if suit were a major and you have hand an extra natural bid along the way... 4.. T Walddk2: I try to avoid opening 2♣ with a long minor, especially diamonds andyv: hand pretty much plays itself othered1: have had.. A ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 25 - © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ rmb1: A Roland slam, missed and not making 12 :) daman: a plethora of 10’s.. 3.. 9 iceking : i agree its the worsed seq after 2 ♣ © ¨ © opening.. 5 othered1: If you generally open old-fashioned soundly, you get some edges on the big hands . . sfoxa : EW have piece of luck as well - S is holding ♠ 6 ( not 10) fourth hedyg: i dont think he can avoid 3 losers mareczek: 4♣ + 4♠ + ruff + AK + A = 12.. 5 Walddk4: Welcome to Sigurbjˆ¶rn sfoxa: EW are granted wit 1 trick bessi2: hi all ybob: hi :) sfoxa: hello sfoxa: after all, 12 tricks are here.. K sfoxa: good move by N - his only chance is ♠, not andyv: W wondering whether to ruff and switch but A would indicate E doesn’t want switch..♣ 6 chessmaste: If you don’t start with 1♣ you are always limited othered1: If I jump shift without a fit, the field likely would have opened 2♣.. 6 andyv: so it turns out that EW needed to do the sacrificing on this hand sharkey: After previous hand de Wijs and Muller may still be "shell shocked"..♣Q sfoxa: cheap escape hedyg: or 3♣s :) bobholl: i think he makes or 2♣ 3 or 2 3♣ losers hedyg: i am not sure what a ♠ from E would have provoked as defense bobholl: ♠ 8 growing :) hedyg : there was no entry to the S hand so playing K♠ was np sfoxa: yes, Marek, you are correct..♣2 ybob: yes, rare play by N..♠T hedyg: but ofc Ron cannot know that iceking: makes now..♠2..♠5 mareczek: twelve no problem tricks - so he takes the insurance mareczek: with safety play in clubs sfoxa: yes, it’s IMP game hedyg: can we play NT now?..♠Q hedyg: so now Q♣ and K♠.. 8.. 9.. 6 garnetts: Bridge is such an odd game--I would not have bid over 2 also would not have opned 2 --so many different views ..♠9 © ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © © © ¨ © ¨ Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) hedyg: EW were European Junior Champions ¨ © ©© © © in..............1978 :).. 2.. J..♠4 hedyg: A .. 2.. 4.. A Board 5 this/total IMPs NS: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 85 EW: Izmir BSBS 72 o 3N W -1 50 c 3N W -1 50 5 5 ♠Q J 8 6 5 10 6 4 4 7 A9832 3 ♣4 ♠AK 9 5 N ♠10 7 3 82 A J953 W E K Q10 7 S ♣ J10 7 6 ♣A Q 8 5 ♠4 2 8 8 KQ7 8 J654 6 ♣K 9 3 2 10-9 130 W: ERBIL W N: CAN Closed S: UNAL N E p 1 p 2♣ p p © 1♠ 3N ¨ § © § § ª § ª ¨ ª ¨ ª ª © ª E: BILGEN S p p p § ¨ © § © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © © #1 N:: 8,7,J,K #2 W:: J,4,5,3 #3 W:: T, 4, 8,K #4 S:: 5,Q,3, 3 #5 W:: 6, 6, Q,2 #6 E:: A,9,7, 6 #7 E:: 3,4,A,8 #8 W:: T,A, 5, 4 #9 N:: 9, T, 6, 5 #10 N:: 2, 9,7,2 #11 N:: J,7,2,K #12 W:: 8,T,A,Q #13 E:: J,K, 9,Q arigun: fena el yok aslinda turgaydai ♣ top A veya K yardimi gelirse olabilir bisile yusufb: KJ kotu sadece vahaboglu : o da kendisinde olsa daha iyi el olurdu arigun: evet akgul: geceri birak eli kalmamis:) vugraphzzy: aslˆ‰nda doˆ ruymuˆ funtay: ZABUNOˆ LU - YILANKIRAN 17 - 1 bord 4 atabey: eskisehir bu maci alirsa karnaval yaparlar herhalde. bu izmir takimini yenmek uzundur kimseye nasip olmadi :) aap00: y..p aap00: 3n..1 ..p..1♠ baskanb: mac 1 ˆ mp ile biterse verilen 12 lerin ˆ ¶nemi kalmaz ihale bu 1 impleri almayana veya © © - 26 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) verene kalˆ‰r deˆ il mi Haldun Abi toral5: a sure pick up for ns..p jtr: Maybe not easy to reach 3NT..2♣ akgul: ilk devre mac bitmis funtay ole dediler xenya: to be fair, the defence was not all that easy..p yusufb: alert heralde 4M olabilir yusufb: dengeli el jtr: Ah They have methods..3N Walddk2: http://www.bridgemoscow.ru/tournaments /results/slava11/slava11t16r.htm Lauria-Versace only 14 behind now exerdar: 1♣ naturel yada kuvvetli aˆ§ˆ‰yorlar ama dbl kˆ¶tˆ… yinede akgul: yani 70-0 falan bitmis toral5: which means the 2 piotrys almost assured of the 1st place..p vahaboglu: Walsh mˆ‰ oynuyorlar yani..p..p yusufb: oyle gibi arigun: 4 daha kolaydi/iyi sanki yusufb : yada tazeler oynuyor sesyˆ‰lmaz oynamˆ‰yor:) vahaboglu: acele etti Turgay veya konvaNSˆ Y ONU UNUTTU vahaboglu : veya Atila kendi kendine walsh oynuyor funtay: mac bitmemiˆ Akgˆ…l:) vahaboglu: olabilir toral5: only non makeable contract is 5d which was played in the other room.. 8 yusufb: iyi cˆ‰ktˆ‰ akgul: :9 toral5: here also 3nt ruled out.. 7.. J vahaboglu: 1NT aˆ§saydˆ‰ Batˆ‰dan oynanacakt ˆ‰ tez: burdan oynayˆ‰nca batar funtay : 1nt acmiˆ olsaydi dogru yerden 4 ♠ oynanacakti vahaboglu: ya gidiyor ama belki ♣ ˆ§akayˆ ‰ bulurlardˆ‰ tez: kontr heralde bizim anladˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰mˆ‰z gibi deˆ il vahaboglu: bu iyi olmadˆ‰ 6Spades iˆ§in.. K vahaboglu: as alˆ‰nˆ‰nca ♣..♣J..♣4 xenya: only 4 remains..♣5 toral5: pass:) baskanb: ˆ§ˆ…nkˆ… herkesin gˆ¶zˆ… o +1 lerde olur :))) arigun: dan 2 vermeye tahammulu yok, ’u bilmekde imkansiz gibi birsey..♣3 vahaboglu: ♠K ve ♣ ile vahaboglu: ˆ zmir BSBS biraz konsantrasyon © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ - 27 - ¨ © eksikliˆ i gˆ¶sterdi bu ana kadar vahaboglu: ama dˆ…zelebilir arigun: iyi aksamlar herkese atabey: sefim ne diosun? senin de yorumlarini bekliyoruz exerdar: iakˆ amlar funtay: slm Cengiz aap00: tough to stay low... ..♣T toral5: cos it makes.:) jtr: I thought their methods maybe could achieve 3NT toral5: 4s also makes jtr : But from South’s point of view 6 is an option xenya: oh yes, and 4♠ and 4N -- sorry aap00: :) even if it makes, such passes are very expensive.. from the "believe in partner" issue :) Walddk2 : 2 ♠ shows 5+ (also 5-3-3-2) or minimun hand with and ♣ toral5: 6d surely a thought for versace especially after bid frm his hand toral5: protected ♠ king jtr: Then 3 Roland? Walddk2: Waiting for info jtr: I thought he was the one giving info:) Walddk2: Lauria has shown 3 or 4 diamonds in a minimal hand jtr: I wonder why Versace didnt bid 3NT then toral5 : if min known,i am surprised why did versace not bid 3nt,UNLESS its conventional Walddk2: A direct raise of diamonds would show extra values jtr: cant be arigun: 10’lu olmasa bilme sansi vardi phantoma: batacak yusufb: evet ♣ cˆ‰ksa ki makul atak yapabilirdi phantoma: kˆ¶rˆ… dogru oynayabilse idi yine yapabiliyordu vahaboglu: belki yapar gene arigun: disarda K’lar uygun ama ’den 3 alamayacak vahaboglu: A ˆ§ˆ‰kmˆ‰ˆ , gˆ¶rmedim.. 4 vahaboglu: ama oynayan ♠ As ve ♠ oynarsa vahaboglu: o da olmuyor champ i: slm cengiz..♣8 phantoma: simdi ♠ 8 ..♣K phantoma: bˆ…yˆ…dˆ… yusufb: ♠ 6 sonra 9 yusufb: ezmemesi lazˆ‰m can atabey: selam cengiz. hosgeldin vahaboglu: merhaba Arigˆ…n toral5: omg.. 5 jtr: uh oh ¨ ¨ © © ¨ © © ¨ © © Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) toral5: forced slam:( toral5: a 13 imp pick up turning into a 3 imp loss toral5: hopefully undoubled Walddk2: Not often things go wrong for L-V, but there is no rule without exceptions aap00: oops aap00: may be now pass? toral5: hopefully ONLY cos i m big LV fan toral5: pass surely an option for lauria Walddk2: only one out of four NS pairs managed to go plus on this deal so far, I am told toral5: he will bid 6d.praying tht the missing keycard is king and its INSIDE:) xenya: only 1 pair out of 5 bid 3N vahaboglu: ama mecbur ˆ¶yle oynayacak zaten.. Q.. 3 xenya: the rest were in 5 or 6 .. 3 jtr: Well, the only thing to say is that this has more play than 6 baskanb: markalar ucuza gitti..♣6 vahaboglu: blokaj olmasˆ‰n diye herhalde..♠ 6..♣Q exerdar: ♠leri 5-4 dusundu galiba akgul : demin 4-2 e simdi 4-1 oynamaya calistilar hayrlisi bakalim exerdar : batˆ‰da ♣ kalmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ icin expaslarˆ‰yla yapabiliyordu aap00: y ..♣2 yusufb: 6 9 sˆ‰gˆ‰yormu 5 tane..♣A..♣9..♣7 arigun: biz ’e takildik ama ♠ den buyuk marka varmis meger exerdar: sayˆ‰sˆ‰ ile dˆ¶nse problem olmazdˆ ‰ piki vahaboglu: bu 1NT dekleresi herkesin kafasˆ‰n ˆ‰ karˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰rdˆ‰ yusufb: 8♠ buyudu bi anda QJ109 dˆ‰sardayken vahaboglu: anlaˆ ˆ‰lan masada sadece Doˆ u biliyor ne olduˆ unu arigun: muhtemelen necdet’te 1♣-1 -1nt 4lu ♠ yok diye dusundu alert gelmediyse vahaboglu: ♠ empasˆ‰ndan vaz geˆ§erse arigun: tesekkurler vahaboglu bey resmiyetin anlami seneye ayni takimda oynamayalim mumkunse mi ? :).. 6 vahaboglu: daˆ ˆ‰lalˆ‰m daha iyi vahaboglu: gˆ…ney alert edilmedi diye direktˆ¶r ˆ§aˆ ˆ‰rabilir..♠3..♠4 aap00: some hope :)..♠A..♠8.. T yusufb: evet muhtemel oyle dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ndˆ… ama acele etmeyip sormak lazˆ‰m eger bilmiyorsa.. A.. 5 vahaboglu: sonuˆ§ ne olur bilmem ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨© ¨ © © are wel placed.immaterial even if he plays ! akq..¨4..¨9..♠T aap00: thx all, have to go now..¨6 toral5: not much play cos jtr: Wife again? exerdar: yinede yetmedi ..♠5 arigun : guneyin ilgisi yok can taze birbirini goruyor perdede vahaboglu: olsun.. 2 tefo33: selam herkeze arigun: sela tefo vahaboglu: merhaba exerdar: slmm yusufb: selam gˆ…naydˆ‰nn vugraphzzy: sesyˆ‰lmaz 1nt yu alert emediˆ i iˆ §in ˆ¶zˆ…r diledi rakipten exerdar: -200 daha.. 9.. 7.. 2..♠J..♠7 vahaboglu: olmuyordu zaten..♠2..♠K.. 8.. T.. A.. Q.. J.. K..♠9..♠Q baskanb: iyi denemeydi ¨ © © © © © © © © © © © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © - 28 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) Board 6 this/total IMPs NS: Izmir BSBS 72 EW: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 13 98 o 6N W 6 1440 c 4♠ E 6 680 6 1 ♠9 8 7 1 Q5 32 4 1 10 8 4 2 1-2 ♣9 3 ♠4 N ♠ A K Q J10 6 K10 J94 W E AQ9 3 K J5 S ♣ A J10 8 7 4 ♣5 ♠5 3 2 11 12 A876 8 76 11 ♣K Q 6 2 11 1430 W: Bilgin W 2♣ 2N 3 4♣ 4N 6♣ 6N N: Assael Open S: Kubac N E 1♠ p 2♠ p 3 p 3♠ p 4 p 5♣ p 6♠ p p ¨ ¨ © © ª © E: Aydin S p p p p p p p p #1 N:: 2,4,A,T #2 S:: 6,K,5,9 #3 W:: 4,7,A,2 othered1: Was there any fraction of an imp in the carryover? iceking: east keeps getting monster hands rnc: Yes, the standings is Boye B 43 - Vintage 41.1 othered1: This could be fun othered1: ty iceking: 1 -4♠ p p 4nt maybe Walddk2: The only makeable game here is 3NT by N-S. Impossible to get to sfoxa: agree. when player starts with -12 imps score in 1st board, his level of cautioness rises at once sfoxa : last board of the round. next one is starting soon, so stay with Russian frost! thank you for watching and sharing your ideas sfoxa: Ivan, thank you for the job done. and keep ¨ - 29 - trying - we have 5 more rounds today :) sfoxa: but good example of safety play :) of no use here, but after all... kjadams: http://www.slavacup.com/ kjadams: Sorry Partner :-) jcwla: If they bid and make a bunch of spades against you on that last one, crawl back in bed...1 ♠ sga1: simple 13 tricks in NT sfoxa: why did W reject his last chance to win, if © behaving well with small defence mistake? just by the way..p sfoxa: bundle of points by EW, they have to make good use from them hedyg: sry yes Vice Champions daman: the fat lady is starting to drink tea and honey ybob: good result to Ew, NS win 8 tricks NT..2♣ sfoxa: and the number of boards played provides you with pros and cons of your approach. rmb1: 4♣ lead directing with fit ? kjadams: You will find two events there. A " top 16" which is what we are watching...p kjadams : It is invitational only and has only superstars chessmaste: It seems unfair that you could make game in a 4-3 spade fit, or a 5-1 heart fit, but not a 5-4 diamond fit (and 3Nt was cold as well) iceking: i guess you overcall 1♠ ..2♠ othered1: impossible because east won’t let it play sfoxa: after all, yes. good for EW sfoxa: this trump suit is better in W’s point of view sharkey: Each round consist of 8 board and the scoring is on IMPs converted to VPs - max score per round is 60-0..p jcwla: From the nature of this W bed it looks like E probably meant the 2♣ on prev hand as xfr cuebid. jcwla: bid not bed. othered1: Wow, east is really walking t his..2N Walddk2: As the cards lie, EW can make 5 iceking: and should make Walddk2: If you guess diamonds bobholl: only a lead keeps 3NT on 9 tricks hedyg: imo Gino thought Bessis had 4 cards in © ¨ © © ¨ stewball: an uncomfortable 3 i’m sure kjadams: http://www.bridgemoscow.ru/tournaments /results/slava11/slava11t16r.htm kjadams: this link has current scores Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) © iceking: you will when you see N 9J drop ..p Walddk2: Top spot, 3NT by N sfoxa: makes sense in that meaning namely sfoxa: could help E decide either to defend or not hedyg: they lost against Duboin Ferraro ! sharkey: West’s 2 is transfer to - either to ¨ © ¨ play or GF I assume..3 ! sfoxa: hm, will S decide to convert this dbl into penalty? sharkey: No - dont think so - choice between pest and cholera.... sfoxa : it would be useful for NS, but hardly possible sfoxa: somebody draws conclusions, somebody doesn’t othered1: Now east is sure to guess ..p sfoxa: re-hello garnetts : cards poorly placed for NS--they stopped pretty low but this will suffer a club ruff in due cousre too hedyg: with the friendly position slam is on kjadams: Glad Hammon did not see that auction. 3N was a possible contract... daman: Hamman kjadams: yes, sorry Walddk2: Will East let him play there? No..3 ybob: lead problem to W ybob: probably hedyg: unbiddable ofc hedyg: 1♣ followed by 3♣s shows 18+..p iceking: and 550..3♠ Walddk2: yes ybob: friendly all jcwla: 2NT to play - oh joy... hedyg: would Gawrys make an effort if he knew about the fit? mareczek: 1♠ - acceptance with 3 cards probably, 2 natural, inv+..p mareczek : Rusinow lead - second from the sequence of honours bessi2: this lead will not paralyse declarer sharkey: 2♠ x wud be off 2..4♣ sfoxa: Round 4 of Slava Cup in progress. torunament site http://www.slavacup.com/tournament.htm sfoxa: don’t be surprised with the opening - 1♣ can include 5332 with 5 , 1 opening - unbalanced hands Walddk2: East bid 5 all by himself..p sfoxa: defence can prevent declarer from 9th trick, but it isn’t obvious sfoxa: now S has to cash ♣ A and continue ¨ © © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ © © hedyg: everybody will lead sfoxa: bearing in mind, W may pass in the first round and re-open with DBL thereafter, EW can land into 3 - not so easy to beat..4 sfoxa: W can beat 4♠ underleading ace, and even without this lead, defenders will take 1 heart and 2 club tricks kjadams: 8 tricks if guess clubs. jillan: he got HIGH from the last hand >)(..p iceking: neither table overcalled 4♠ sharkey: NS are off to a good start and won’t take unnecessary risks I think sfoxa: "peacful" hand after all sfoxa: *peaceful sfoxa: after this bidding and first lead (nothing to ruff) - coffee-board :) andyv: on board 5, NS got to 3N making 4 for a 12 imp swing and on board 4, EW did not get to slam in OR for another 12 imp swing sfoxa: quite a good example of the fundamental that grand slams have no play - the are claimed, if the bidding was correct othered1: I guess I thought east was walking this before I saw the other table’s actions. Inconceivable that I"d sell to 3 ..4N iceking: i bid in my world is just clear-cut sfoxa: matter of overtricks andyv: and this one will be claimed at trick one stewball: this will require very careful play ..p sfoxa: exactly..5♣ sfoxa: but the matter of course would be rather the same (2 instead of 2 for pairs not using transfers) garnetts: excellent play to lead the earlier but it wont help sfoxa: 3 clubs, sorry andyv: that helps declarer..p rmb1: Yes. So 5 is a phantom..6♣ sfoxa: better small gain than unknown win/loss game..p stewball: ♠ endplay rmb1: 28 was flat in 4♠-1 on the same auction in both rooms..6♠ stewball: or careless defence:) sfoxa: actually, we should disregard the scores here - it’s pair tournament with IMPs scoring across the field..p..6N..p..p hedyg: unlikely to find the winning play of top honours in sharkey: This is a Pair Contest with IMP score. EW and NS all play on the Dutch National team and are pitted against each other first round..p.. ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © © © - 30 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) 2 sfoxa: these pairs faced each other last year in Ostend representing their countries sfoxa: actually, Top-16 of the Slava Cup consisted of top stars of nations sfoxa: after 3 rounds, the NS are 4th and EW3rd, as you may guess sfoxa: but don’t pay attention to the scores - it’s a pair event with IMPs scoring kjadams: Quite the swing on that guess. sfoxa: ok, next board.. 4.. A.. T andyv: 9 tricks will be easy sfoxa: both defenders have to find 4 discards on ♣. tricks are coming..... 6.. K mareczek: actual ranking http://www.bridgemoscow.ru /tournaments/results/slava11/slava11t16r.htm.. 5 sfoxa : now declarer takes it all. heart return could have providing defence with 1 more trick iceking: why did he cash Ace .. 9..♠4..♠7.. ♠A..♠2 sfoxa: to beat the contract, N had to retain both © © © ¨ © © ¨ ¨ © © Board 6 this/total IMPs NS: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 13 98 EW: Izmir BSBS 72 o 6N W 6 1440 c 4♠ E 6 680 6 1 ♠9 8 7 1 Q5 32 4 1 10 8 4 2 1-2 ♣9 3 ♠4 N ♠ A K Q J10 6 K10 J94 W E AQ9 3 K J5 S ♣ A J10 8 7 4 ♣5 ♠5 3 2 11 12 A876 8 76 11 ♣K Q 6 2 11 1430 W: ERBIL sfoxa: now declarer prevails W 2♣ 3♣ p N: CAN Closed S: UNAL N E 1♠ p 2♠ p 4♠ p ¨7,3,4,K ªJ,3,§4,ª9 ªK,©7,§7,©3 ¨5,§6,¨Q,8 §A,3,5,2 ©J,A,T,2 #1 S:: #3 E:: #5 E:: #7 E:: #9 W:: #11 E:: E: BILGEN S p p p ª ª § ª ¨ ¨ © § ª § #2 E:: T,2,4,7 #4 E:: Q,5, 8, 8 #6 E:: J,6,9,2 #8 W:: A,T, 4,6 #10 W:: T,9, 6, Q riyilikci: Herkese selamlar phantoma: merhaba tefo33: meraba rahmi tez: 16 imp geriler..iki yarˆ‰ daha var..ne bu panik boyle vahaboglu: evet aap00: many thx for operators, organisers and cocommentators ..1♠ arigun: merhaba rahmi vahaboglu: Turgay bu walsh a alˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰k deˆ ildir exerdar: selamRahmi abi tez: kolata 3 nt yi yapˆ‰yor diˆ er odada.. xenya: thanks Alex..p aap00: good luck :) riyilikci: diˆ er 3 ˆ§eyrek final maˆ§ˆ‰ sonuˆ§ landˆ‰ - 31 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) vugraphzzy: tazeler alert etmiˆ ti funtay : ZABUNOˆ LU - YILANKIRAN bu baskanb: mertin elinden 3 pik denebilirdi vahaboglu: normal bir eldi ortak oyun aˆ§ˆ‰yor devre 21 - 1 board 5 toral5 : looks like east and south will only be bidding..2♣!..p toral5: just dont like this dbl..2♠ jtr: Oh West will have their say or two now riyilikci: ˆ zmir Bˆ BS, Zabunoˆ lu ve Yˆ‰lankˆ ‰ran Yarˆ‰ - finale yˆ…kseldi yusufb: Selam Rahmi hoˆ geldin exerdar: 2/3 denebilir tez: 12 imp daha gelecek jtr: X maybe showed strong ♣ option only..p toral5: very keen to know wt wd west have done if versace passed toral5: 1c=16/17+? exerdar: 4oldu:) vahaboglu: ˆ¶nceki elde 4 de zor yapˆ‰lˆ‰r exerdar: batˆ‰ icin zor durum vahaboglu: evet vahaboglu: DBL diyecek tefo33: en iyisi DBL yusufb: 5♣ derseler yaparlar bence ♠ yada atagˆ‰na cˆ‰kˆ‰lmayabilir atabey: iyi denemeydi de bu saatte ne dersen yapican artik. deneme fasli bitti Walddk2: 1♣ is always strong..3♣ jtr: ah ok toral5: yes toral5: thats why i said dbl is super strange..p jtr: Then the X is very odd atabey: ya rakip denemezse tez: 4 der bence..4♠ tefo33: karo cˆ‰karsa turgay bu oyunu yapar..p..p yusufb: iyi cˆ‰ktˆ‰ Walddk2: Pass after 1 shows 5-7 any shape..p yusufb: buna hemen batˆ‰yo ilk 3 eli alˆ‰yo defans exerdar: ˆ§akˆ‰p le dˆ¶nmesse, ♣ pasˆ‰ ile decleran 11 el alˆ‰yor yusufb: AK mi dˆ…sˆ…nˆ…yor tefo33: turgay cakmayˆ‰nca cl pasˆ‰nˆ‰ atar yusufb: cakmazsa yapar ♣ pasˆ‰ atar toral5: yes.. 7 vahaboglu: koz oyunlarˆ‰na AK dan As ˆ§ˆ‰ km ak gerekliliˆ i buradan anlaˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰yor tez: gokhan yˆ‰lmaz tez: disiplinli davrandˆ‰ hobakan: merhabalar Tez hocam tez: hoˆ geldiniz:) hobakan: karolardan yaparˆ‰m 2-2 minˆ¶r ˆ§ˆ‰ ksa bile diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nmˆ…ˆ olabilir. 13 var © © © ¨ © ¨ © ¨ baskanb: 2cl ˆ…zerine Walddk2: Double would be 0-4.. 3 toral5: severe pressure on west now jtr: Pass works well enough vahaboglu: bazˆ‰larˆ‰ koza da sayˆ‰ falan ¨ oynuyor vahaboglu: hepsini detaylˆ‰ konuˆ muˆ partnerler iˆ§in konuˆ muyorum begse: 4-4 majˆ¶r olsa 4 de karo ♣ pasˆ‰ kesin vahaboglu: bence de Turgay yapar riyilikci: Vugraph planˆ‰mˆ‰z, son dakika deˆ i ˆ ikliˆ i olmazsa, Yarˆ‰ final ilk devre Zabunoˆ lu-Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran maˆ§ˆ‰nˆ‰ yayˆ‰nlamak exerdar: 16 geldi Eskiˆ ehre akgul: batacak bir 4♠ gibi gorunmuyor.. 4 champ i: 3 sp bencede daha iyi vahaboglu: evet.. K toral5: gud thing is ALL 4 made a bid..♠T Walddk2: so, Gromov had to double first, because 2♣ would be NF tez: ♠ rua dam uˆ§uyor..yinede oynamasˆ‰ zor kart toral5: he might make this..♠2 toral5: if 1♠ convinces him of bad ♣ break exerdar: Molva 2 e mˆ…dahale edince sonu iyi olmamˆ‰ˆ 5.bordun vahaboglu: Kuzeyin eli belli oldu artˆ‰k vahaboglu: partajˆ‰na oynar belki..♠4 toral5: q will be off especially after 2s dbl by lauria.so finesse is ruled out..♠7 tez: 2♣ drury idi..♠ tutuˆ u ve iyi el gˆ¶steriyordu.. jtr: Well, he could play for 4-2♣s and the with North..♠J tez: 2 ya 3♠..5li 4lˆ… ♠..zon forsingi el gosteriyordu..smolen..♠3 toral5: lauria will chop this..♣4 atabey: hala tutuk. kesin 3♠..♠9 arigun: tercihine bir slam ancak muhtemelen diger masada da denmez vahaboglu: belki ˆ ileme giderlerdi ama 10 lu sorun olabilirdi..♠Q..♠5 vahaboglu: atak edilirs..♣8..♠8..♠K vahaboglu: ˆ§akacak.. 7 vahaboglu: 5 li ♣ e oynuoyr gibi arigun: bi ara cikmaya gelmedi 16’lik sarsinti olmus macta riyilikci: Yarˆ‰ final 2. devre bˆ…yˆ…k sayˆ‰ farkˆ‰ olmadˆ‰kˆ§a diˆ er maˆ§ˆ‰ yayˆ‰ nlayacaˆ ˆ‰z ¨ ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ © © © © ¨ © - 32 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) yusufb: 5-0 yapabilirmiyime bakˆ‰yo vahaboglu: kˆ‰salmaya ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰yor yusufb: 4-1 den emin vahaboglu: belki 5-0..♣7 akgul: 5 yapacak.. 3 vahaboglu: pik 5 li ise.. J.. 6 vahaboglu: ˆ imdi vahaboglu: boˆ .. 9 tez: ataˆ ˆ‰n kuvvetli ele doˆ ru yapˆ‰lmasˆ‰nˆ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ‰ saˆ lˆ‰yor ama dengesiz el yere aˆ§ˆ‰ldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in defansˆ‰n iˆ ide kolaylaˆ ˆ‰yor.... 2.. 5 arigun: denirse 13+13 imp lik bir fark var nereye oldugu belli degil :) toral5: if he hooks ♣ hes better off..♣6.. Q.. 8 vahaboglu: artˆ‰k batamˆ‰yor.. A.. T begse: undo.. 4.. 6..♣A vahaboglu: edilmezse As etmeyendedir diye d ˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…lebilir vahaboglu: gˆ…zel oynadˆ‰..♣3 arigun: undo exerdar: undo? funtay : ZABUNOˆ LU - YILANKIRAN bu devre 21 - 2 board 6..♣5..♣2 vahaboglu: ama 5-0 a oynadˆ‰..♣T funtay: herkese slm yusufb: 9 caksˆ‰n vahaboglu: evet yusufb: slmmm vahaboglu: sonunu kaˆ§ˆ‰rdˆ‰ exerdar : 5-0 a oynarken ♠ ˆ§akasˆ‰nˆ‰ engelleyemiyordu yanlˆ‰ˆ gˆ¶rmediysem,el yer geˆ§erinde vahaboglu: kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k koz Ruaya gidiyordu arigun: son 5 loveye geldi neyin 5-0’i tez: herkes oynuyor moda olduˆ u iˆ§in..ˆ§ok sevdiˆ im bir konvansiyon deˆ il baskanb: 5li piki bˆ…yˆ…tebiliyordu karoya iste ˆ§akmasa..♣9..♠6..♣Q.. J.. A.. T atabey: cikilmayinca K koymak yˆ…zde 51.. 2 ¨ ¨ © © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © Board 7 this/total IMPs NS: Izmir BSBS 72 EW: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 98 o 4 S 4 620 c 3N N 4 630 © 7 10 ♠K Q 3 9 A10 4 2 11 10 J3 8 ♣ A K10 6 ♠10 9 8 7 6 2 N ♠J 85 KQ3 W E Q9 10 7 6 5 S ♣Q87 ♣J5432 ♠A 5 4 3 4 J976 2 AK 8 4 2 3 ♣9 4 650 W: Bilgin W p p p p p p 2♣ 2♠ 3 3N 4 © © E: Aydin S 1 2 3♣ 3♠ 4♣ p ¨ © p p p p p ª #1 W:: T,,, othered1: aThere was no reason for north to be screwing around with 3N ... Walddk2: It was a great bid if East had let him play there iceking : north can never ever bid 3nt there without Qxx in Walddk2: He could have passed 4 othered1: right, so it was a serious effort, not something to mislead east ybob: easy 4 here stewball: N not able to get the count kjadams: unfortunate defense. I’d have liked to see how declared attacked spades for 1 loser sfoxa: exactly. you’ll be in a good company getting one down in game Walddk4: http://www.bridgemoscow.ru/tournaments /results/slava11/slava11t16r.htm andyv: we are on board 31 after we played 32 first ¨ © - 33 - N: Assael Open S: Kubac N E ¨ © Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) sfoxa: ♠ game based on distribution, not on ¨ power..1 jcwla: I think most pairs would do better to agree 2NT is never natural in comp. hedyg: sry ofc also lose 1♣ sfoxa: will NS manage to reach it?..p stewball: strip ♣s and a duck a ♠ to N kjadams: since North did not make a takeout double, might be tough to play for 11 HCP sfoxa: 2 tens upgraded S hand, seemingly :) hedyg: 4 X -2 was worth 13 imps to NS on bd 11 when Lauria took off to 6NT! hedyg: the bidding there was 3 -4 -6NT-X chessmaste: Not really - the datum is currently 2 IMPs for E/W on the deal iceking: undo on W pass please..2♣ sfoxa: in each round, 2 pairs have to split 60VP between them, 30:30 means a draw hedyg: so there must have been some more fun sfoxa: suppose, several EW will be in 3♣ or even 4♣ (S should compete), so this result isn’t awful sharkey: 5 on - may need ♠ finesse..p sfoxa: looks like another tiny game Walddk4: http://www.bridgemoscow.ru/tournaments /results/slava11/slava11t16r.htm for results and running scores rmb1: Traditional shape and values for take-out double ! sfoxa: http://www.bridgemoscow.ru/tournaments /results/slava11/slava11t16r8.htm for livescores kjadams : ducking spade to north loses when south has King. sfoxa: once more - don’t pay much attention to the scores. it’s pairs event with IMPs scoring hedyg: 2 is Italian style 18-19 balanced Walddk2: lol..2 Walddk2: He did pass iceking: no undo? vugraphzwd: nope sfoxa: EW should find their way to 5 hedyg: double= a 2suiter stewball: well in that case you play the Q:)..p kjadams: given the ace king of hearts, i’d error by tossing south in with spade. stewball: like i said,it required careful play sfoxa: now NS can compete with 3 , if N is brave enough stewball: looks like a normal 3 bid sfoxa: leading EW to the bold game hedyg: 2♣ by S leaddirecting, rather than bidding 2 with xxxx © © ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ © ¨ daman: my Mom would have bid 2 © with the South hand :) hedyg: and her Mom as well :) kjadams: After a XX, rebidding before parner has a chance to double is generally a warning to partner chessmaste: Many players would suugest that 2 ♣ says that is the only suit I am playable in partner sfoxa: from the other hand, in 3NT from W seat, N may choose honour for the first lead, allowing to make the contract..2♠ sfoxa: having spades, E has to concede to the partner’s for playing game andyv: 13 tricks available hedyg: 2NT minors?hmmm or Rubensohlish? sfoxa: N’s dbl is near to promise 4 cards in , so our Moms would iceking: 2aces and 6-5 shape with void ..p sfoxa: I was optimistic :) sfoxa: I’m with N in his decision. 14 points, but 5 cards suit and 10-s bobholl: now the battle is on ♠ vs hedyg: not sure that 1♠ shows more than 4 cards vugraphzyv: minors hedyg: ty Yvan hedyg: i am told 4 = better ♠s than but you play pd hedyg: 3 does not show 4 cards necessarily hedyg: so N brings the long ♣s into the picture hedyg : maybe he should have bid his suits naturally rather than 2NT? Walddk2: and he won’t go for 800. Silence is golden..3♣ ybob: rare t out with single :) but works fine ! hedyg: a matter of agreements kjadams: did 2H show values? hedyg: since over 2NT his pd’s bid really doesnt tell him much ybob: only lead defeat 4 ..p sfoxa : several pairs use Bergen raises in N position - could make it easier bobholl: X is i had hedyg: indeed hedyg: Volcker:" like i care" stewball: likley p/c sfoxa: W is willing to compete so much iceking: he did though avoid the 800 ..3 sfoxa: but they reached game, after all sfoxa: he was about to steal the contract from EW sfoxa: looking for 4cards in ♠? © © © ¨ © ¨ © © © © © © - 34 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) sfoxa: with 2♣ relay sfoxa: game temptation... sfoxa: current results are here http://www.bridgemoscow.ru /tournaments/results/slava11/slava11t16r13.htm chessmaste: Hard to reach 3NT on these cards othered1: might be their strategy against this arcane system. What’s your defense to 1♣?..p iceking: seems like there stragety is to not bid at all bvdahl: rehi, everyone. Had a sudden emergency, but now I should be back in business :) Walddk2: double as generic takeout, overcalls natural othered1: generic takeout of what? Walddk2: any suit iceking: majorish othered1: maybe west just didin’t have a bid for th is specific pattern? iceking: dbl of 1♣ usually played in sweden as takout with 4-4 in majors iceking: could always bid 1♠ i doubt that means anything else then ♠ hedyg : especially since 1 was a 3rd seat opening, i.e. could be weak sfoxa: NS are already beyound their possibilities sfoxa: 5 tricks to concede hedyg: a good time to pass hedyg: he "knows" chessmaste: I don’t believe all this - I have sent a runner to the table to check hedyg: 7 anything is on hedyg: :) ty sharkey: Pls disregard the score you see Team 2 12 IMPs Team 1 0 IMPs. ..3♠ rmb1: Perhaps 2NT shows a maximum 10/11 in which case 3 may be GF ,,, no its not bobholl: he hasn’t passed yet :) sga1: seems -1 bessi2: strange looking dbl by west..p jcwla: Need to have agreement about meaning of 3♠ here: general GT, trump quality GT, 1-2-3 Stop, etc. stewball: pass or correct jcwla: So many finesses, so little time. kjadams: spade finesse first since that has reentry if fails. sharkey: Surprised W didnt bid game Game Vul Bonus being 500..3N sharkey: Not a good round for EW mareczek: 5♣ looks like sensible mareczek: contract sfoxa: declarer has to work hard to escape to 1 ¨ ¨ - 35 - down only bobholl: may be he loses 3 :) hedyg: 2♠ was cold so np to go off sfoxa: he got a chance sfoxa: not at ll, but E can rely on several pts by partner - 1NT was passed by N sfoxa: W did well with such opening. these 10 points deserve it andyv: hand a little too rich to open as a multi hedyg: after all this noise i feel let down sfoxa : 6 ♠ as sacrifice may well lead to 7 under pressure..p hedyg: after XX you know it is not your board so giving pd a leaddirector looks right sfoxa: to collect 9 tricks in 3 is much easier than in 3NT..4♣ kjadams: If north has king and ducks, back to guessing. iceking: he is very lucky not going minus 420 here vs his own 650 imo..p jcwla: "For the rich they sing." sfoxa: wow! they are more ambitious ..4 mareczek: even after club lead it makes... sfoxa: E has to establish s to win sfoxa: looks like their agreement worked as well andyv: counting the 13th trick will be the key for E sfoxa: with this opening, I do prefer to score -50 (or 100) in tiny game, than +170 ot +200 in dull partscore andyv: agree sfoxa: Chagas finess in ♣ helps, but W have to decide for sfoxa: oh, no, sorry, I’m wrong sfoxa: and 6 S is happy to dbl kjadams: Neet to shift to clubs and then back to diamonds to beat 4S. Continuing D will not do it. Walddk2: Are we heading for a major upset? Boye B’s are hot favourites despite the 21 IMP handicap they sustained..p mareczek: E takes in hand, cashes A, crosses toi the dummy with ♣ Q, ruffs diamod high, draws trumps and concedes sfoxa : now it’s possible to score 4 ruffs in dummy othered1: but some of us dont like to get our shorter suit into the auction as an initial action. West likely thought he’s have another chance, then just chose to "stay fixed."..p..p andyv: now 5N andyv: Gawrys too fast for me:) andyv: E can see 12 tricks... the 13th is hard to ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ ¨ Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) © spot (the 6th )..♠T othered1: Some fix. Board 7 this/total IMPs NS: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 98 EW: Izmir BSBS 72 o 4 S 4 620 c 3N N 4 630 © 7 10 ♠K Q 3 9 A10 4 2 11 10 J3 8 ♣ A K10 6 ♠10 9 8 7 6 2 N ♠J 85 KQ3 W E Q9 10 7 6 5 S ♣Q87 ♣J5432 ♠A 5 4 3 4 J976 2 AK 8 4 2 3 ♣9 4 650 W: ERBIL W N: CAN Closed S: UNAL N E © p p p p 1 2N 3N ¨7,2,Q,3 ¨J,5,4,9 ¨6,A,ª9,§6 ª3,§4,ªA,2 ¨8,ª7,©T,§2 #1 E:: #3 N:: #5 E:: #7 N:: #9 S:: E: BILGEN S 1 2 3♣ p ¨ © p p p ªT,Q,J,4 ©2,Q,6,5 ©7,8,A,3 ¨K,ª6,©4,¨T ª5,8,K,©K #2 W:: #4 N:: #6 S:: #8 S:: #10 S:: yusufb: baˆ tan oyle dˆ…sˆ…ndˆ… arigun: daha dogrusu solunda son 4 karti kaldi vahaboglu: o ayrˆ‰ baˆ tan ˆ¶yle dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ndˆ… arigun: saginda pardon funtay: evet son durumda 4tane ♣ kaldˆ‰ sagda vahaboglu: istersen vazgeˆ§elim hocam vahaboglu: sen kˆ‰zma yeter xenya: but with no double his line looks quite ¨ logical ..1 ! atabey: belki de as atak gelir. belli mi olur baskanb: yer cue ederse kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k kˆ¶r ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ ‰labilir ve spor hayatˆ‰ biterdi toral5: yes..p toral5: 2h=sound raise to 2s..1 ..p..2 exerdar: dbl - 3/4 ? akgul: 5c iyi kontrat © © © © - 36 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) baskanb: ama elbette kˆ¶r As atak da gelebilir hand evet jtr: Careful defence needed against 4♠..p Walddk2: If the defence takes a diamond ruff declarer will make. N-S gave him a chance to go wrong in the other room vahaboglu: yerine bir konvansiyon bulma ˆ§alˆ ‰ˆ malarˆ‰na ben baˆ lˆ‰yorum tez : yok kˆ‰zmam devam edin siz ben onun yerine bi konvansiyon bulana kadar exerdar: bu elde 5♣ denirse yapˆ‰lacak baskanb: evet 5d de ˆ¶yle :) Walddk2: A, ♣J switch..2N! jtr: Then it cant make surely? akgul: :) vahaboglu: 6 derler mi? vahaboglu: aynˆ‰ anda bulursak Nobel ˆ¶dˆ…lˆ … verebilirler, ikimizin adˆ‰na..p tez: kontr demeliydi bence 1 ya yusufb: tek 7kozla alˆ‰p 5♣ boylesine kritik ma ˆ§ta batˆ‰rmak ne bˆ…yˆ…k mutluluktur:)..3♣! ..p exerdar: 18. elden 11 ˆ zmir’e geldi,sistem kazasˆ ‰ olmuˆ diˆ er odada tez: ortakta ya tuzak pas varsa canˆ‰nˆ‰ alˆ ‰rlar:) vahaboglu: bence denecek exerdar: ♣ teknden sonra Necdet ˆ lem demez Walddk2: yes if he finesses spades..3N xenya: it can double dummy Walddk2: maybe I got that wrong toral5: ace and ♣ jack will ? jtr: 4 s to lose?..p xenya: or maybe not, right toral5: tough decision at trick 1 itself toral5: he might place lauria for ♣ king,thinkng honours are split after NO lead jtr: But no double of 2 so surely the K is right toral5: kxxx he might not prefer a x jtr: However, their is the situation to work out jtr: there toral5 : if he guesses ♠ , wont b a 4 loser suit.lauria will be blocked at some stage jtr: All, in all he might play North for both Ks toral5: i m sure he ll duck ♣ toral5 : or ♣ ace,correct ♠ guess, finesse pitching a ♣ and playing for 3-3 also an option jtr: I think the point about the honours is very valid toral5 : lauria did his job by making declarer thinkkkkkkk on this lead toral5: i mean sooo many line available on this toral5: lines vahaboglu: ok vahaboglu: buna mutluluk denmez..p..p vahaboglu: rakibi de dˆ…ˆ ˆ…n vahaboglu: zaten batˆ‰yordu ˆ…zˆ…lme falan ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 37 - © © denir rakibe vahaboglu: :) vahaboglu: bari 4 oynasalardˆ‰ baskanb: as sorulunca bir as ve koz damˆ‰ dˆ‰ ˆ arda olduˆ u gˆ¶rˆ…lˆ…yor vahaboglu: gene psiˆ ik vakasˆ‰ mˆ‰ zannetti vahaboglu: ˆ¶yleymiˆ exerdar: :) baskanb: Mert tutucu davranˆ‰yor bu elde bu elle bira tavˆ‰r daha almak gerek bence.. 7.. 2 baskanb: bir tavˆ‰r :) akgul: bilgen in 74 elle 1 diyip sonra susmasi ilginc.. Q.. 3 exerdar: sˆ‰rtta lar olabilir diye bulaˆ mamˆ‰ ˆ dˆ‰r..♠T vahaboglu: daha ˆ¶nceki turlarda bu ekip 1 cevabˆ‰nˆ‰ psiˆ ik oynuyorlardˆ‰ vahaboglu: 2li..♠Q..♠J funtay: dbl yerine 2sp veya 3 karo diyebilirdi..♠ 4 vahaboglu: veya 4 lˆ… demekki akgul: evet.. J.. 5.. 4.. 9 baskanb: hatta ortak pastan gelirken 4 boˆ pikin peˆ ini bˆ‰rakˆ‰p baˆ tan da yˆ‰kˆ‰cˆ‰ konu ˆ ma yapabilirdi funtay : ZABUNOˆ LU - YILANKIRAN bu devre 21 - 3 bord 7.. 2.. Q.. 6.. 5.. 6 baskanb: Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran ˆ eytanˆ‰n bacaˆ ˆ‰n ˆ‰ kˆ‰rmˆ‰ˆ jtr : He was playing for s 3-3 and therefore North for 2♠s.. A..♠9..♣6.. 7 toral5: yes.. 8.. A.. 3..♠3 jtr: Same thing as South cant get in with a to play a trump..♣4..♠A..♠2.. K xenya: well he did all he could i guess..♠6 jtr: oh sorry toral5: how did he go 2 down? jtr: ♠s 2-2 he always makes of course tez: acemi gibi oynadˆ‰ ilk 9 eli aldˆ‰:).. 4 vahaboglu: atak yerde karolarˆ‰ bile bile iyi deˆ il.. T.. 8..♠7.. T..♣2..♠5..♠8..♠K.. K baskanb: 3 lˆ… ˆ§ˆ‰karsa direktˆ¶r mˆ… ˆ§aˆ ˆ ‰rmak gerek o zaman abi vahaboglu: evet o psiˆ ik diye © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © ¨ ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © © Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) Board 8 this/total IMPs NS: Izmir BSBS 10 82 EW: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 98 o 3N S 3 400 c 3N S -1 50 8 9 ♠A 9 8 7 3 9 2 9 8 9643 9-10 ♣AK 7 ♠J654 N ♠10 2 J10 6 3 Q98 W E K J10 A852 S ♣10 8 ♣J932 ♠K Q 4 4 AK 7 5 4 4 Q7 5 ♣Q 6 5 4 3 400 W: Bilgin W p p p p N: Assael Open S: Kubac N E 1♠ p 2♠ p 3N p E: Aydin S 2 2N p © ¨ #1 W:: T,,, rnc: Brogeland has a lot of fans, even outside Norway :) iceking: these hands we been getting are wild othered1: Not the worse slam ever seen here. othered1: worst Walddk2: I’d be in grand sfoxa: they have 3 more boards mareczek: livescores sfoxa: S was helpful, but still - bravo for declarer sga1: defense slipped here on 4th trick, ♠ play would have avoided end play andyv: S could have avoided this by playing the A♠ at trick 4 ybob: 9 tricks NT here..p jcwla: The N hand looks about average for my pds when I have the S hand. kjadams: Never see Adam misguess the Queen when it matters, only for the overtrick. sfoxa: that’s the way squeezes are working :)..1 ♠ © bvdahl: without a ♣ lead, 6 is cold..p andyv: trick will be for NS to stay out of game although they may get pushed into it iceking : cant really see how you miss slam here..2 othered1: 5 or 7 hand, but only on ♣ lead. Walddk2: New philosophy, I only bid the slams that make bvdahl: so it is not really a 5 or 7 hand, is it? rnc: It looks like bad coaching from the captain. Who to blame? Me of course, since I’m the guilty one...:) sfoxa: do they still playing with you, such a lucky guy? :) garnetts: Everything normal here andyv: now 4 iceking: no you should play 6 on ♣ lead you can play 2 times and pich ♣..p mareczek: dbl. = "pass or correct" mareczek: now NS in troubles mareczek: even 3 after trump lead does not look well ybob: 1♠= neg X without ♠ sfoxa: but here EW should find their way to 3NT mareczek: once again strong club bvdahl: yes..2♠ sfoxa: lie of the cards is better for NS than for EW, but EW have more power sfoxa: so it goes... sfoxa: this time, game forcing opening allows to win game in ♠ daman: if they manage to get to slam it is very mekeable daman: provided they pin the doubleton 109 of © ¨ ¨ © © bessi2: not familiar with n-s system here but ¨ © suprising to see a 1♣ and not 1 opening..p ybob: they play 1♣ p 1 = no 5M sfoxa : S should consider his lenght as a stopper and bid game ybob: 2 bid now jcwla: Beautiful hand to lead from... meanwhile the Rabbi is busy this set. sfoxa : can’t imagine SO helpful hand from defence to allow declarer making it hedyg: the leaders bid 6♣ as well bobholl: wasn’t young bessis afraid he was stolen from :) sfoxa: S must have been embarraced a little bit mareczek: when S will show diwmond suit, will N go to the slam? kjadams: I really dislike that redouble. your partner gives you the chance to preemt, you take it. ¨ © - 38 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) mareczek: I think 3♠ wouldwork better than rdbl bvdahl: so 6 is more or less 75%..2N othered1: in 2/1, west would be 80 percent of the way to slam. In EW’’s acol style, it may not be andyv: doing ok...lots of bridge andyv: sorry:) hedyg: 1 = 0-7 chessmaste: 1NT any game force hedyg: what is 1NT? fluff: preempt with 4333 ?..p mareczek : N knows that somebody must be joking hedyg: ty Mark othered1: 4 ? ..3N Walddk2: 4 probably a fragment Walddk2: or maybe just a cue bid sfoxa: S has got one more chance to bid hedyg: 2♣ must be relay mareczek: yes.....p sfoxa: lesser evil stewball: not a lot of imps in these hands so far sfoxa: looks like average, but each option - 10, 11 or 12 tricks - is possible kjadams : a puppet stayman auction. Right system for these cards. sfoxa: rather not 10 jcwla: Against big club if ever but in any case what is the XX? And still another X? andyv: W will signal for ♣ sfoxa: and helping hand from defence looks unnatural othered1: doesn’t that normally imply shortness in 4th suit?..p rnc: Cue, I’m told (sitting 2 mtrs from the table) iceking: good bidding with no extras w will bid 6 now rnc: Should be short, in my opinion bvdahl: in the CR, EW used 5 bids to get to 4 . Here they might use less than that to arrive in slam... bvdahl: 5 bidding rounds othered1: Quite a comeback for Vintage. iceking: east bidding in closed room looks just surreal sfoxa: this one doesn’t looks very special sharkey: should be off as dummy very short of entries..... mareczek: they have found the contract which is difficult do double mareczek: East knows that they have 5 tricks mareczek: should play spade after ♣A ¨ ¨ ¨ © © - 39 - mareczek: otherwise, declarer can play ♠J mareczek: and if W will not cash the spades, EW can be in troubles sfoxa: to create problems for declarer,N have to lead opp’s suit - ♠ sfoxa: ♣ lead appears helpful jcwla: Would you have passed throughout as S, Sveta? sfoxa: first lead well choosen - E is known to have more points than W, so N hopes to find partner with some values sfoxa: even without ♣ swith now, declarer has to concede 4 tricks kjadams: Running the Jack in slam would be nominated for play of the tournament sfoxa: 5 is good as well..p ybob: S prefer wait to bid NT if pd has H stiff sfoxa: well done! andyv : this has not been a very good set for Brink and Drijver while Bessis and Volcker have been flawless sharkey: Dont see how East can avoid loser.. T sfoxa: would have considering this option, but triple, not only twicr sfoxa: *twice, sorry sfoxa: this time, ♠ lead had worked as well sfoxa : but the most interesting point - this contract could be made mareczek: usually in this position East’s bidding causes the most suspicions sga1: Hope don’t get over board to 6♣ sfoxa: EW climbed on 3rd position - they have very good round indeed daman: cash the Ace then run the Jack hedyg: i am told "dynamic 1NT" ybob: now pass ¨ ¨ ¨ Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) Board 8 this/total IMPs NS: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 98 EW: Izmir BSBS 10 82 o 3N S 3 400 c 3N S -1 50 8 9 ♠A 9 8 7 3 9 2 9 8 9643 9-10 ♣AK 7 ♠J654 N ♠10 2 J10 6 3 Q98 W E K J10 A852 S ♣10 8 ♣J932 ♠K Q 4 4 AK 7 5 4 4 Q7 5 ♣Q 6 5 4 3 400 W: ERBIL W p p p p N: CAN Closed S: UNAL N E 1♠ p 2♠ p 3N p § ª ª ¨ © ª © © ª © ¨ E: BILGEN S 2 2N p © ª § § © © ª © § ¨ #1 W:: T,A,2,6 #2 N:: 3,2,K,4 #3 S:: Q,5,7,T #4 S:: 5,8,K,3 #5 N:: A, 5, 4, 6 #6 N:: 7,J,Q, 3 #7 S:: A,6,2,8 #8 S:: K,T, 8, 9 #9 S:: 5,J, 9, Q #10 E:: 9,4, J,3 #11 E:: 2,,, xenya: was 1 off surely? hobakan: varsayalˆ‰m ki ilk ya ˆ§akˆ‰lˆ‰p as ile tekrar ortaˆ a geˆ§ildi.... tez: bakalˆ‰m ler kaˆ§ kaˆ§mˆ‰ˆ :) baskanb: 1 e takˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ lardˆ‰ akgul: funtay sen bu gidisle zabun u yetiˆ tirecen herhalde toral5: was 1 down..p..1♠..p..2 exerdar: 2d=multi toral5: 3 and a trump..p..2♠ xenya: if what we saw was correct toral5: lol xenya: Now for the last board of the tournament. Thanks to Ekaterina, our flawless operator. Our appreciation goes to the Organising Committee ( Pavel Portnoy), the sponsors and all those ... xenya: who have been instrumental in bringing © © ¨ ¨ © this event to the BBO audience. Thanks to my cocommentators Alex, David, Sapan and Roland. And, of course, to all spectators for their witty ... xenya: and helpful comments. toral5: than i m sure he wd ve ducked ♣ and went 2 down vugraphzyu: sorry, -1 funtay : ZABUNOˆ LU - YILANKIRAN bu devre 8 bord sonunda 0 - 14 exerdar: bu el 3ntye gelip batacaklar muhtemelen vahaboglu: olur..p tez: ˆ aka dedim arkadaˆ lar..rakibin leri aˆ§ˆ‰ kta..zorunlu ilk 9 eli almasˆ‰ gerekiyordu....2N vahaboglu: sonra da squeeze oynamak iˆ§in el vermem gerkiyordu demeliydi..p akgul: erbil elini dev gibi anlatti simdi bence..3N champ i: dbl yerine 2 h iyiydi exerdar: pasta alternatif olabilir akgul: bende ayni fikirdeyim, nasilsa trap pas yok gibi tez: yada 1nt:) tez: 18 19 dengeli gibi tez: bilgen 4 diyecek exerdar: 3♣=artifisyel soru..p exerdar: 3 = 4♠ 4432 daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰m arigun: puppet galiba Walddk2: Thanks to you, Vladimir. You have been commentating almost all weekend..p tez: bi de bil:) akgul: xxx ♠ ten tˆ‰rstˆ‰ baskanb: doˆ ru yˆ¶nden aldˆ‰lar ˆ imdi..p vahaboglu: 4 alamˆ‰yorlar vahaboglu: 3 +1♠ vahaboglu: ama belki ♣ partajˆ‰na oynarsa batar..♣T exerdar: dinael cuebid oynuyorlar..♣A jtr: Slam here Roland?..♣2 arigun: k♠ baslamaz heralde dekleran vahaboglu: lˆ¶ve aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ a ˆ§ˆ‰kar Walddk2: yes..♣6 tez: sadece kendi lovenizi deˆ il rakibin lovesinide saymalˆ‰sˆ‰nˆ‰z sanzatu oynarken..dˆ‰ˆ arˆ ‰ya el verdiˆ inizde onlar ne yapabilir.. vahaboglu: K-G ˆ§ok agresif konuˆ tu bence champ i: 4 karo hiˆ§ alamazlar..♠3 xenya: I enjoyed it Roland..♠2 arigun: oyle olursa alkislariz exerdar: muhtemelen batacak baskanb: ortakta karˆ‰ kˆ‰sa ise kˆ‰sa trefl dˆ ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda iˆ e yarar bir deˆ er yok Walddk2: 109 doubleton, automatic..♠K baskanb: karo :)))..♠4..♠Q © ¨ ¨ ¨ © - 40 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) akgul: :) vahaboglu: tersten oynanˆ‰yor..♠5 arigun: pek tersi duzu yok oyun acisindan exerdar: evet ama pek deˆ iˆ miyor gibi,sadece defans icin biraz daha rahat olabilir atabey: unal 9 love alabiliyo mu peki..♠7..♠T exerdar: pik partajˆ‰na oynadˆ‰ baskanb: trefl ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰nca partaj olmayacaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ ˆ…necektir vahaboglu: ♣ atak olunca partajdan vazgeˆ§ ebilir finesse works..♣5 jtr: Chinese vahaboglu: ben Doˆ uda olsam narin bir "DBL" derdim..♣8 vahaboglu: rakip ˆ…rkmesin diye tez: ♣ kestiˆ i iˆ§in lay lay lom oynuyor..nasˆ ‰lsa donerim ♠ i daha sonra diye..♣K tez: ♠ atacak yerden baskanb: canlˆ‰ yayˆ‰n kazalarˆ‰ spor hayatˆ ‰mˆ‰zˆ‰ bitirecek bu gidiˆ le :)))..♣3 vahaboglu: yanlˆ‰ˆ yerden aldˆ‰..♠A exerdar : ♣ Q ile alsa bloke karolar varken yapabilirdi heralde champ i: cl dam alsaydˆ‰ kabaktˆ‰ baskanb: ˆ nal bizi ˆ aˆ ˆ‰rtmaya devam ediyor vahaboglu: biz yazana kadar batmˆ‰ˆ bile arigun: antre problemi var su an zaten ♠ i yerden ezse de olurdu vahaboglu: ne ˆ§abuk oynadˆ‰ toral5: not needed. ace and PIN the 9/10 2nd time:).. 5.. 4..♠6 Walddk2: Thanks all and bye xenya: Bye jtr: Thanks everybody Great event vugraphzyu: thanks everybody you’ve been with us vugraphzyu: the final results will be available in a few minutes vugraphzyu: http://www.slavacup.com/results.htm exerdar: anca ♠ ataˆ ˆ‰na kuzeyden yapˆ‰ labilir bi eldi..♣7 exerdar: A ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰rsada olur tabi arigun: w dengeli 11 ile oyun acip Q atak etse yapilabilir bir eldi diyelim atabey: piki ezmek guzel oyun..♣J..♣Q arigun: ama nerden b,lecek rakibin 4 alamadigini durup dururken ♠ partajina batar baskanb: son ana kadar battˆ‰ diyemeyiz sonra sˆ‰kˆ‰ntˆ‰ yaˆ ˆ‰yoruz nasˆ‰l olur diye atabey: partaj yada J veya 10 gelirse vahaboglu: deˆ ilse diye acelesi yok ki vahaboglu: ˆ¶nce ♣Q ile alacak antreler yeterlidir.. © © ¨ © ¨ © ¨ ¨ - 41 - ©3 vahaboglu: ♠ oynasa orijial koz alˆ‰yordu..© A..©6..©2..©8..©K riyilikci: 9 bord sonunda bu devre 21-7 Zabunoˆ ´ lu ˆ ´¶nde..©T..♠8..©9 baskanb: ˆ§ekecek A K kalmadˆ‰ vahaboglu: piklerden kurtulacak ♣ ile yere geˆ§ © © © ip piki ˆ§ekecek karar verecek.. 5.. J..♠9.. Q tez: iˆ kazasˆ‰ eˆ itim zayiatˆ‰..kontr yok diye sevinebiliyor insan:)..♣9 vahaboglu: korkup kaˆ§arlar belki ama, kaˆ§mak da erkekliˆ e yakˆ‰ˆ maz belki :) tez: doˆ unun eliyle 1 e ne derdiniz? vahaboglu: 4♣ KG iˆ§in daha iyi olurdu tez: 2 mu 1♠ mi vahaboglu: 2 vahaboglu: baˆ ka soru tez: o el aslˆ‰nda onemli el © © © Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) Board 9 this/total IMPs NS: Izmir BSBS 10 92 EW: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 98 o 4 S 4 420 c 4 S -1 50 © © 9 8 ♠A 7 6 6 Q9 2 9 9 97 10 ♣A Q J 8 7 ♠Q J 2 N ♠K 9 8 5 3 K J87 4 W E J10 6 2 543 S ♣9 2 ♣K 5 4 3 ♠10 4 3 6 A10 6 5 3 3 AK Q8 4 ♣10 6 3 140 W: Bilgin W p p N: Assael Open S: Kubac N E 1♣ p 2 p p p S 1 4 © © © ¨J,7,3,A ª3,T,J,A §Q,3,ª4,©7 ©A,8,2,4 ¨2,9,5,8 #1 W:: #3 E:: #5 N:: #7 S:: #9 W:: E: Aydin § § ª © © Walddk2: Last chance is to get Boye to play a ¨ few hands :).. A..♣T..♣2..♣7..♣K bvdahl: not easy to set this one when played on © Souths hand. Much more effective D with a lead from E..♠3 rnc : Don’t be too sure, Magnus. We might change to Iceking FC in the future.....♠T..♠J Walddk2: Can’t you find a better team to have that name?..♠A Walddk2: :) iceking: so this is knockout round of 16 and the huge favorites have been knocked out rnc: True (: Walddk2: Please don’t cry, Calle..♣A..♣5..♣6.. ♣9 rnc: Even the second ranked team, the reigning champions Team Zang is down a lot still. iceking: i have a good friend on the losing team, so this gives me the right to make a little fun of him iceking: not saying it would be nice of me do so bvdahl: Don’t think there are a lot of alternatives to ♣A and a ♣ now rnc: I won’t cry, I promise :) iceking: Calle did the right team get the handycapp.. ♣Q..♣3..♠4.. 7..♠Q rnc: But still, those times the underdogs win is a victory for the format of the tournament..♠6..♠ K.. 3.. A.. 8.. 2.. 4.. 5.. K.. 9 rnc: Yepp.. 4.. 2.. 9.. 5 jillan: wouldn’t have helped the Boye team....... 8 bvdahl: I don’t like this play, if the A had been in E now, he would not reach his ♣ tricks © #2 S:: T,2,7,K #4 N:: A,5,6,9 #6 W:: Q,6,K, 3 #8 S:: 5,K,9, 4 #10 N:: Q,,, © ¨ ¨ © © © © © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © iceking: didnt play this well either If S had 4♠ ¨ ¨ and K he was squeezed so should keep H in dummy..♣4.. J.. 3.. 2 othered1: 42 imps in 4 boards for Vintage bvdahl: they would be ahead even without the handicap now othered1: True bvdahl: and boards like this is not going to help the fanclub much..1♣..p Walddk2: Boye B running out of boards; 22 is the last in this room..1 rnc: I might not tell Boye about this match :)..p..2 ..p..4 othered1: There are additional comparisons from the other room, but things look very bleak for Boye B Fans. iceking: Iam happy no team in iceland has Magnˆ ”s M Fan Club..p..p..p.. J.. 7.. 3 © ¨ ¨ ¨ © © ¨ ¨ ¨ - 42 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) Board 10 this/total IMPs NS: Izmir BSBS 92 EW: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 1 99 o 3N S 4 630 c 3N N 5 660 10 ♠K 7 J85 AQ96 ♣K 8 7 5 ♠9 8 3 2 N ♠J64 K64 A932 W E K J10 4 72 S ♣9 4 ♣ J10 3 2 ♠ A Q10 5 Q10 7 853 ♣A Q 6 630 W: Bilgin W ¨ 1 p N: Assael Open S: Kubac N E p 2♠ p p p © © § § ª § ª ª ¨ ¨ © ¨ 10 10 9 10 10 3 3 4 3 3 E: Aydin S 1♣ 3N © ¨ § ª ª § ª ¨ § © #1 W:: 6,J,A,7 #2 E:: 3,Q,K,5 #3 W:: 4,8,9,T #4 S:: 5,T,Q,2 #5 N:: 5,2,A,4 #6 S:: Q,9,7,3 #7 S:: 6, 8, K,T #8 N:: K,4,5,2 #9 N:: 7,6,A,3 #10 S:: Q,9, 8, J #11 S:: T, 4,6,7 #12 S:: 8,J,A, J #13 N:: 9, 2, 3,K jillan: thanks all, enjoyed it.. Q bvdahl: I think Boye is excluded from being a member of his own fan club :) iceking: was it a trick to name the team Boye B Fan Club to try to get him on the team? iceking: not much in this board should be a push or one imp..p..1♣..1 ..2♠!..p..3N..p..p..p bvdahl: with the favorable trump position, 10 tricks should be fairly easy 2 + 4 + 0 + 4.. 6.. J rnc: Might be. He knows about the name (unfortunately:)) bvdahl: have to play a bit carefully to reach 11.. A rnc: We’ll be back in two weeks with the Quarter Finals, another 24 board match.. 7.. 3.. Q.. K.. 5.. 4.. 8.. 9.. T.. 5.. T.. Q Walddk2: March 3.. 2..♣5 Walddk2: http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/ ¨ © © © © © © © © © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 43 - schedule.php?order_by=event..♣2..♣A..♣4..♣ Q..♣9..♣7 Walddk2: Thanks all, was fun..♣3..♣6..♠8..♣ K..♣T..♠K..♠4..♠5..♠2..♠7..♠6..♠A bvdahl: thx everyone :)..♠3..♠Q..♠9..♣8 iceking: thx Walddk2: Next broadcasts tomorrow from Russia and Israel..♠J..♠T Walddk2: Bye for now vugraphzwd: ty all Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) Board 10 this/total IMPs NS: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 1 99 EW: Izmir BSBS 92 o 3N S 4 630 c 3N N 5 660 10 ♠K 7 J85 AQ96 ♣K 8 7 5 ♠9 8 3 2 N ♠J64 K64 A932 W E K J10 4 72 S ♣9 4 ♣ J10 3 2 ♠ A Q10 5 Q10 7 853 ♣A Q 6 630 W: ERBIL W p p N: CAN Closed S: UNAL N E p 3N p § ¨ § § © ª ª § ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ 10 10 9 10 10 3 3 4 3 3 E: BILGEN S p p ¨ © © ª ª © ª ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ #1 E:: J,A,9,7 #2 S:: 8,4,6,2 #3 S:: 3,J,Q,7 #4 N:: 5,2,T,K #5 W:: 4,5,2,Q #6 S:: 7,4,J,3 #7 N:: K,3,6, 6 #8 N:: K,4,5,3 #9 N:: 7,6,A,2 #10 S:: Q,8, 8, J #11 S:: T,9, 8,T #12 S:: 5,T,A, 9 #13 N:: 9, A,Q, K yusufb: 4nt kantitatif otomatikti.. 4.. 6.. 7.. 8.. J.. A..♣J.. 9.. 2.. 3.. K funtay: Evet Yusuf yusufb: sagol Tayfun:) akgul: eller biraz sˆ‰kˆ‰cˆ‰ geliyor tez: 7♠ yapˆ‰labilir yusufb: dengeliye dengeli birˆ ey olmazda karsˆ ‰da 14-15 var 32-33 onor var su anda..p vahaboglu: sen oynasan ˆ enlenirdi diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ …nˆ…yorum :)..p..p tez: arkadaˆ lar gelen mesajlarˆ‰n hepsine cevap yazabilmem mumkun deˆ il..tek parmak ancak bu kadar:)..3N akgul: :) tez: ˆ§ift ♣ empasˆ‰yla.. u de yere ˆ§aktˆ‰rˆ ‰yor.. exerdar: :) © funtay: bergen oynuyorlar sanirim..p tez: 7 bordta 24 imp ˆ§ˆ‰kar mˆ‰ tez: tabiki ˆ§ˆ‰kar tez: ama el gelmeli..p..p..♣J funtay: bergene dbli genelde t/o oynaniyor ama burda karolar var diye atti vahaboglu: ortaya yaz biz de faydalanalˆ‰m :) baskanb: fast arrival yapmˆ‰ˆ lar biz yokken vahaboglu: problem yok tez: 6♠ oynanacak..♣A vahaboglu: 2 alert edilmedi ama iyi ♠ tutuˆ u © herhalde..♣9 vugraphzzy: 3nt +1 olmuˆ skor kaˆ ˆ‰tlarˆ‰na ˆ¶le yazˆ‰ldˆ‰gˆ‰ iˆ§in dˆ…zelttim skoru vahaboglu: 4♣-4 ..♣7.. 8 arigun: 6 nolu board slam deniliyor galiba acik oda da, ama baglanti koptu.. 4.. 6 yusufb: kuvvetliye karˆ ˆ‰ renk zayˆ‰fa TO genelde.. 2 arigun: macin kader boardu olabilir baskanb: kˆ‰rˆ‰lma anlarˆ‰ndan.. 3.. J vahaboglu: As eksiˆ i var.. Q.. 7 tez: tam oldu ama.oyuncularˆ‰ uyar lutfen arigun: dediler slami baskanb: iˆ oynamaya kaldˆ‰ akgul: 6♠ %75 empaslarina oynanirsa batabilir, ama ♣ paslarina 7 oluyor .. 5 riyilikci : 11 board Sonunda Zabunoˆ ´ lu YilanKIRAN .. 2.. T.. K riyilikci: 26-24 exerdar: Q yu uˆ§urmayˆ‰ deneyebilir ˆ¶nce , olmassa ♣ pasˆ‰..♣4..♣5..♣2..♣Q vahaboglu: evet Ankaranˆ‰n haklarˆ‰nˆ‰ koruyoruz :).. 7.. 4.. J.. 3 tez: majˆ¶re kontr geldikten sonra transfer oynuyorlar atabey : eskisehirliler bana bozulmus. neye bozuldularsa ozur dilerim ama ben tarafsiz yorum yapiyorum. hatta daha cok eskisehirli gibi yorum yapiyorum :) ..♣K..♣3..♣6.. 6 akgul: iyi oynadi..♠K..♠4..♠5..♠3..♠7..♠6..♠ A..♠2..♠Q..♠8.. 8..♠J..♠T..♠9..♣8 tez: hepsini deneyemiyor akgul: su anda %100 vahaboglu: Q tez: ˆ imdi ♣ oynayˆ‰p 10 koyarsa.. dˆ¶nˆ…ˆ ˆ…nde ne koymasˆ‰ gerektiˆ ini bilmeli..♣T arigun: bildigim kadariyla sen fenerbahceliydin yalcin :).. 5.. T.. A.. 9.. 9.. A.. Q.. K exerdar: 6. elde ˆ lem dedi Eskiˆ ehir ama hangi ˆ lem onu gˆ¶remedik arigun: 6♠ dediler atak bekleniyordu © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © © © ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © © ¨ - 44 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) Board 11 this/total IMPs NS: Eskisehir AdalarBSB EW: Izmir BSBS o c 3 E -1 50 ¨ 11 6 ♠J82 10-9 K42 7 5 KQ 10-9 ♣Q J 7 5 2 ♠9 6 3 N ♠ K10 10 8 6 3 AJ9 W E 863 A J10 7 5 4 S ♣A 9 3 ♣10 4 ♠A Q 7 5 4 4 3 Q75 6 92 8 ♣K 8 6 3 420 W: ERBIL W N: CAN Closed S: UNAL N E ¨ p p p p 1 p p p ©5,3,K,A ¨T,2,6,K ªQ,6,8,T ©6,4,J,Q #1 S:: #3 E:: #5 S:: #7 W:: E: BILGEN p 2 3 ¨ ¨ S p 1♠ 2♠ p © es es funtay: ben 4♠ derdim ..p funtay: 4’h..1♠ funtay: 6nt denince ara aˆ§ildi..p exerdar: bu 3lu olabilir heralde alert:)..p exerdar: 2♠ den sonra guneyden bi ˆ lem patlatabilir..2 ¨ funtay: Gˆ…ney simdi ortaginda cok sey bekliyor tez: 2♣ gazzilli oynuyorlar....2♠ vahaboglu: gazilli durumu mu baskanb: Kubaˆ§ Yalˆ§ˆ‰nˆ‰ haklˆ‰ ˆ§ˆ‰ karmˆ‰ˆ Kˆ¶r As atak ederek konuyu kapatmˆ‰ ˆ vahaboglu: gazzili..p tez: ya naturel 2♣ diyecek el ya da 15+kuvvetli herhangi el hobakan: tabi bu durmun natureli de 3+ .. onu da hatˆ‰rlatalˆ‰m, exerdar: yok exerdar: 3as olunca dbl ˆ§abuk oldu tabi..p tez: dam oynadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda ise yuzde yuz.. damˆ‰ guney ruayla alˆ‰rsa firesiz geri dˆ¶nˆ… ˆ ˆ… yok.. exerdar: 6Nt oynandˆ‰ Salvodan ataˆ ˆ‰..3 ¨ ¨ © ¨ arigun: oyle olmamis burak, 6nt denmis salvo ¨A,9,3,Q ª2,K,A,3 §6,A,7,4 §K,3,2,T #2 E:: #4 N:: #6 S:: #8 S:: yusufb: gecen el 6nt oynanˆ‰yormuˆ tez: 3♣ ede 3 yada kontr ..aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ majoru dˆ‰ ¨ ˆ ˆ‰nda renk istemek iˆ§in oynamayˆ‰ seviyorum yusufb: normal yusufb: 32-33 puanla 3nt oynamak anormaldi bari 4nt oynansˆ‰n tez: kaˆ ˆ‰dˆ‰n hakkˆ‰nˆ‰ versinler diyorsun:) tez: diˆ er maˆ§lar oynanˆ‰yormu? tez: kimin oynadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰n farkˆ‰nda bile de ˆ ildim inan:)..p..p vahaboglu: Dˆ…nyanˆ‰n gˆ¶zˆ… ˆ¶nˆ…nde +1 yazˆ‰yorlar :) yusufb: yani sleme bi caba olsun sonra demesinler onemli diil 33 puanla dengeliye dengeli slem batarda o ayrˆ‰ bu elde batabilirdi..1 ! yusufb: oynanmˆ‰yor izmir yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran zabunoglu yarˆ‰ finalde ¨ - 45 - funtay: 2♠ kˆ¶tˆ… kˆ¶r puanlari ile cok degilmi? arigun: 6nt atak gelmis direkt 12 love olmus funtay: 6 nolu eli 6nt diyip kˆ¶r atagina yaptilar cikmis © funtay: kˆ¶r ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰si iyi ..p yusufb : eskiˆ ehir takˆ‰mˆ‰ yˆ‰llardˆ‰r zorluyordu bu sene muhtemel yarˆ‰ finale kalacaklar TEBRˆ KLERRR ES ES tez: 2 8 den az puan ve ler gosteriyordu exerdar: ˆ brahim Aydˆ‰n 3 diyince Bilgin ♣ fiti sandˆ‰ 6♣ dedi, 6♠ ye duzeltti emin olamadˆ‰ 6nt dedi Bilgin baskanb: yesss pardon ˆ imdi gˆ¶rdˆ…m :)..p..p exerdar: swingler peˆ peˆ e gelmeye baˆ ladˆ‰, diˆ er oda 5♠de 10. elde.. 5.. 3 tez: bu el aˆ ˆ‰r oldu tez: ˆ enlikler baˆ layabilir tez: konvoy hazˆ‰rlansˆ‰n exerdar: :) funtay: hop:).. K exerdar: biraz kˆ¶tˆ…mˆ… oynadˆ‰ :-) exerdar: 1fazla Ayberg? vugraphzzy: evet vahaboglu: 1 alert nedir acaba.. A.. A.. 9.. 3.. Q.. T.. 2.. 6.. K funtay: ZABUNOˆ LU - YILANKIRAN macinda © © ¨ © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) 12 bord sonunda: 1 - 15 ..♠2..♠K..♠A..♠3..♠ Q..♠6..♠8..♠T arigun: ♣ oynamasi lazim..♣6 arigun: derken oynadi..♣A..♣7..♣4 vahaboglu: Doˆ u neden 1♠ demedi de.. 6.. 4 vahaboglu: ˆ imdi 2♠ dedi.. J.. Q..♣K..♣3.. ♣2 tez: ruayla ortulurse dam..asla ezip 9 oynar.. 10 luya kayˆ‰p ♣ giderdi....♣T © © © © ¨ ¨ Board 12 this/total IMPs NS: Eskisehir AdalarBSB EW: Izmir BSBS o c PASS 12 5 ♠A J 5 3 8 7652 5 4 K8 7 ♣ K10 3 ♠ K Q10 N ♠8 7 A98 J10 4 3 W E Q7 4 A J632 S ♣9 8 5 2 ♣J4 ♠9 6 4 2 5-6 4-5 KQ 8 10 9 5 9 ♣A Q 7 6 5 110 W: ERBIL W p N: CAN Closed S: UNAL N E p p E: BILGEN S p tez: geˆ§en elle ilgili istek parˆ§a olduˆ u iˆ§in yazˆ‰yorum.. vahaboglu: Tez hocam o el bitti akgul : evet haldun, bilgen 1s diyip masadan cekilmeliydi bence vahaboglu: sen seyirciye yazarken biz de gˆ¶rˆ… yoruz vahaboglu: faydalanˆ‰yoruz exerdar: e-w biraz koptu oyundan anlaˆ ˆ‰lan..p - 46 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) Board 13 this/total IMPs NS: Eskisehir AdalarBSB EW: Izmir BSBS o c 1♠ N -2 200 13 ♠ A Q10 7 2 10 8 5 2 AQ2 ♣Q ♠J643 N ♠K 8 5 KQ4 A J97 W E J73 K10 6 S ♣A 5 3 ♣9 7 4 ♠9 63 9854 ♣ K J10 8 6 2 140 W: ERBIL W N: CAN Closed S: UNAL N E 1♠ p 5 4 5 7 8 8 9 7 6 5 E: BILGEN S p p §4,J,A,Q ¨6,9,J,Q ¨2,T,5,3 ©K,5,9,6 ©A,§6,3,©T #1 E:: #3 E:: #5 N:: #7 W:: #9 E:: ª6,2,K,9 ¨A,K,4,7 ©7,3,Q,2 ©4,8,J,§2 §7,8,5,ª7 #2 W:: #4 N:: #6 E:: #8 W:: #10 E:: vugraphzzy: evet..p..p..p yusufb: 2devre 15:40 yusufb: son devre 18:40 yusufb: ama bunlar programa gore aksamalar olabiliyor funtay: ˆ ZMˆ R Bˆ BS - ESKˆ ˆ EHˆ R ADALAR BRˆ ˆ 28 - 20 Bord 10 vahaboglu: baˆ tan fiti verseydi cuebidleˆ ip kalˆ ‰rlardˆ‰ diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yorum tez: fena bi 6 deˆ il bence funtay: bu sette kariˆ ik ve gˆ…zel eller geldi, bu el gibi..1♠ vahaboglu: 1NT uyandˆ‰rˆ‰r mˆ‰..p..p funtay: 5♠ ye kadar oluyor..p tez: 6♠ as ♠ atak edilmezse kabak funtay: yok tez: ha evet funtay: trefin ˆ…stˆ…ne pik 9 vahaboglu: %45 civarˆ‰, atak hariˆ§ - 47 - vahaboglu : zonda diye uyandˆ‰rmamˆ‰ˆ olabilir vahaboglu: ♣4 baskanb: marka yok 4333 zonda takˆ‰m maˆ§ˆ ‰ tez: ˆ…ste ˆ§aka varmˆ‰ˆ ..♣4 tez: yˆ…zˆ…mˆ… kˆ‰zattˆ‰n tayfun:)..♣J vahaboglu: eee, uyandˆ‰rmayac mˆ‰yˆ‰z yani..♣A..♣Q vahaboglu: daha iyi kontrat bulma ihtimali mi var aˆ§anˆ‰n champ i: ortakta 14 olup zon da kaˆ§ˆ‰rabiliriz vahaboglu: evet baskanb: elbette olabilir ama bizde 4 lˆ… ˆ ik varken ortak birˆ§ok 14 le tavˆ‰r alacaktˆ‰r tez: atak edende as ve ♠ rua olsaydˆ‰ ne atak ederdi sence?..♠6..♠2 funtay: -3 olur 4spden daha iyi skor olur..♠K..♠ 9 vahaboglu: 1 DBL tutulacaktˆ‰ vahaboglu: !Q atak makuldˆ… bence.. 6 vahaboglu: herhalde.. 9.. J vahaboglu: Q vahaboglu: 3NT swingi geldi.. Q vahaboglu: ben uyandˆ‰rma taraftarˆ‰yˆ‰m bu pozisyonda.. A vahaboglu: .. K.. 4 tez: 3 batacak.. 7.. 2 vahaboglu: farketmiyor ama atabey: bu lˆ¶veler baya lazim olucak birazdan.. T.. 5.. 3 baskanb: bence uyandˆ‰r ma abi :) arigun: atak gelmis ondan sonrasi belli degil ama atagina biraz dikkatli bir oyuna yapilirdi niˆ tekim nezih yapmis.. 7 vahaboglu: ama belki zonda her batar fazla yazar diye bir mantˆ‰k da olabilir.. 3 vahaboglu: ok.. Q.. 2 funtay: yavas yavas fark kapaniyor, ama bord yetmeyecek gibi.. K.. 5 atabey: yahu adam pas dedi zaten. oyundaki lˆ¶ veler ucusuyo.. 9.. 6.. 4.. 8.. J tez: ufukta yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran izmir BSBS final maˆ §ˆ‰ gˆ¶zˆ…kˆ…yor..iki macta acˆ‰k ara ˆ u anda..♣2.. A..♣6..♣3.. T..♣7..♣8 ¨ © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ©¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ © © © © © © © © © © © © Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) Board 14 this/total IMPs NS: Eskisehir AdalarBSB EW: Izmir BSBS o c 4♠ N 6 480 14 6 ♠ AK 9 8 7 6 12 6 5 12 A Q J10 2 10 ♣10 ♠J5 N ♠10 4 3 832 A K Q J10 9 4 W E 974 53 S ♣J8654 ♣9 ♠Q2 0 0 75 8 K86 0 ♣ AK Q7 3 2 3 980 W: ERBIL W N: CAN Closed S: UNAL N E 4 4♠ p nde exerdar: guneyden 2 ¨ ya dbl dense 3Majorde yarˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰rlardˆ‰, ˆ imdi ne olacak belli deˆ il champ i: 4 h dicek galiba akgul: simdi unal ˆ‰n 4 diyip ortagini cezalandirmamasi lazim vahaboglu: deklere karˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰k vahaboglu: 2way C/B oynuyorlar herhalde.. 8.. 6 champ i: baˆ tan x atmadˆ‰ dememesi lazˆ‰m atabey: bu standart egale bence baskanb: 3 aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰na G tarafˆ‰ndan tavˆ‰r alˆ‰nˆ‰r bence exerdar: evet © © © E: BILGEN S p p © p p exerdar: bu dbl ilginˆ§ oldu vahaboglu: 8 olsa iyi idi :) riyilikci: 15 bord sonunda 33-27 Zabunoglu ˆ ´¶ © #1 E:: A,5,8,6 funtay: mactan sonra 6 spades takimi su bordu becersek yetecek diye konuˆ acak aralarinda bu gidiˆ le:)..♣5..♠7 tez: tabiki kesin deˆ il.ˆ§ok bord var onˆ…mˆ… zde vahaboglu: uyandˆ‰rmasak iyiymiˆ funtay: hepimizin yaptigi gibi:)..4 atabey: 3 heralde derken mert 4 acti exerdar: zor bi ˆ lem eli champ i: sp ataˆ ˆ‰nada 3 nt yapar uyandˆ‰ rmayan..p..p akgul: 3m e karsi 3M yarisi izleyecegiz galiba..4 ♠..p baskanb: 4 aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰..p..p vahaboglu: 6 , karo 4-0 olduˆ undan batˆ‰yor.. A atabey: 3 de acsa nasil gelinicek ki sileme vahaboglu: ama demek de zor zaten.. 5 vahaboglu: Can DBL diyebilirdi vahaboglu: baˆ tan akgul : 1 seviyesinde demedi cok yukselince dayanamadi:) champ i: 7 puan az deˆ il mi haldun abi © © © ¨ © - 48 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) Board 15 this/total IMPs NS: Izmir BSBS 92 EW: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 1 100 o 3N S 3 600 c 4 N 4 620 © 15 10 ♠AK Q 8 3 9 A85 10 8 64 8 ♣Q 6 5 ♠J6 N ♠9 7 5 4 2 K10 764 W E AQ7 3 952 S ♣9 8 7 4 3 ♣A J ♠10 3 4 Q J932 3 K J10 8 5 ♣ K10 2 5 630 W: Bilgin W p p p p N: Assael Open S: Kubac N E 1♠ 2♣ 3 p © § © ¨ © ¨ © ª ª ¨ § ª ¨ § #1 W:: 4,5,J,K #3 N:: 8,7,3,T #5 E:: 9,J,Q,4 #7 N:: 5,4,J, 3 #9 S:: 2, 6,3,2 #11 N:: K,5, 8, 3 #13 N:: 8,9, K, 7 p p p p E: Aydin Board 15 this/total IMPs NS: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 1 100 EW: Izmir BSBS 92 o 3N S 3 600 c 4 N 4 620 © 15 10 ♠AK Q 8 3 9 A85 10 8 64 8 ♣Q 6 5 ♠J6 N ♠9 7 5 4 2 K10 764 W E AQ7 3 952 S ♣9 8 7 4 3 ♣A J ♠10 3 4 Q J932 3 K J10 8 5 ♣ K10 2 5 630 W: ERBIL S p 1N 2 3N W p p p p ¨ © § § ¨ § © ¨ ª ª ¨ #2 S:: Q,K,A,6 #4 W:: 9,6,A,2 #6 W:: 8,Q, 2, T #8 S:: 9, 7,6,5 #10 S:: T,J,A,4 #12 N:: Q,7, T,A N: CAN Closed S: UNAL N E 1N 2 3 p © © p p p p E: BILGEN S p 2 3 4 ¨ ¨ © ª2,T,J,A #2 N::§6,J,K,9 ©2,T,A,4 #4 N::ªK,4,§2,ª6 ªQ,5,§T,©K #6 W::§3,5,A,©9 ¨T,Q,4,9 #8 W::§7,Q,©6,J tez: 1minor 1© 1♠ ten sonra oynanˆ‰yor....p..p..1 ♠..p..1N..p..2♣!..p..2¨!..p..3©!..p..3N..p..p..p.. ♣4..♣5..♣J..♣K..©Q..©K..©A..©6..©8..©7.. ©3..©T..♣9..♣6..♣A..♣2..¨9..¨J..¨Q..¨4.. ♣8..♣Q..¨2..♣T..©5..©4..©J..¨3..©9..¨7..¨ 6..¨5..©2..♠6..♠3..♠2..♠T..♠J..♠A..♠4..♠ K..♠5..¨8..♣3..♠Q..♠7..¨T..¨A..♠8..♠9..¨ #1 E:: #3 S:: #5 N:: #7 S:: K..♣7 vahaboglu: bu modayˆ‰ seviyor musun Tez hocam tez: evet baskanb : 4-2 karoya oynarsak 1seviyesinde oynayacaˆ ˆ‰z ortak 4lˆ… karo ile 2 karo demeyecektir vahaboglu: neden demesin arigun : 3 -4 yu iyi el ♠ oynuyorlarsa guneyin elinden gidilebilir atabey: tavir ne? 4♣ dicen. kuzey de 4♠ dicek ¨ ¨ - 49 - ¨ Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) pas pas pas gene arigun: 3 -4 exerdar: 1♣=nat or 18-19..p baskanb: kontr seˆ§eneklerden biri bence..p atabey: 3 kontr mu? baskanb: ortak 3 nt derse mutluyuz atabey: Qx pikle atabey: fantazi o vahaboglu: iyi buna yeni konvansiyon araˆ tˆ‰ rmayalˆ‰m..1N vahaboglu: 44 majˆ¶rle bile , ♣3 lˆ…yken kontr atˆ‰lmazd..p vahaboglu: briˆ§ amma deˆ iˆ ti yahu baskanb : belki de ama takˆ‰m maˆ§ˆ‰nda bunla pass seˆ§eneklerden biri deˆ il bence..2 ..p funtay: 12 nolu eli Kandemir kestirmeden 4♠ acmiˆ ordan da swing geliyor..2 ..p..3 hobakan: 1♣ 1 1♠ den sonra da oynanˆ‰yor hocam tez: konvansiyonlarˆ‰n moda olduˆ u iˆ§in geliˆ imini bilmeden oynanmasˆ‰nˆ‰ ˆ iddetle kˆ‰nˆ ‰yorum....p vahaboglu: 6♠ aˆ§sa da olurmuˆ yani arigun: 4♣ diyemeyecek muhtamalen dbl tercih etmezse insallah ortak uyandirir diye pass diyecek icine sinmeden atabey: pas demez ama yˆ…zde 90 4♣ der yˆ… zde 10 da ya allah diyip kontr senin gibi..3 ..p exerdar: bu el ˆ§ok kritik oldu funtay: Seyriciler aˆ§ˆ‰sˆ‰ndan gˆ…zel bir mac oldu..4 ..p..p vahaboglu: 10 luya empas yaparsa batar vahaboglu: karˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰k el..p exerdar: 10 el alˆ‰p claim, 3♠7♣..♠2..♠T arigun: 4♣ konvansiyonel oynuyorlarsa... bu el cok problemli 4♣ naturel olsa dahi 6322 ile 4♣ demek rahat degil..♠J hobakan: herkese merhabalar:) iyi akˆ amlar vahaboglu: yere ♣..♠A vahaboglu: kˆ‰namayˆ‰ bˆ‰rak protesto bile edeceksin gibi gˆ¶rˆ…nˆ…yor..♣6..♣J vahaboglu: oynarsa vahaboglu: as alˆ‰nmazsa olur..♣K hobakan: aˆ§ˆ‰k odadan geliyorum, haberiniz vardˆ‰r.:):)..♣9 vahaboglu: empasˆ‰ vahaboglu: piklerer ♣ baskanb: evet ben hala o %10 un iˆ§indeyim kontr alˆ‰nabilecek bir risktir diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ… yorum hobakan: 16 numaralˆ‰ el Zabunoˆ lu takˆ‰mˆ ‰nˆ‰n potansiyel eli idi maˆ§ˆ‰n baˆ ˆ‰nda... © ¨ © ¨ © ¨ ¨ ©2..©T..©A..©4..♠K vahaboglu: fˆ‰rsat kaˆ§tˆ‰..♠4..♣2..♠6..♠ Q..♠5..♣T exerdar: alˆ‰cˆ‰ ile ˆ§akacak biraz ˆ anslˆ‰ oyunmu ?.. K arigun: iki ucu islak urgan 4♣ desen bi dert dbl desen ayri bir dert :)..♣3 champ i: 1 imp de aldˆ‰lar..♣5..♣A vahaboglu: b!9 dˆ…ˆ ˆ…yor.. 9 vahaboglu: 9 vahaboglu: 2li ♣ As boˆ lamanˆ‰n esprisi yok bence.. T.. Q.. 4 vahaboglu: acele defans oldu zannediyorum.. 9..♣7..♣Q exerdar : 8 iyi marka, eˆ er ˆ…ste kupu olsaydˆ‰ © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © ¨ ¨ © © © © - 50 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) Board 16 this/total IMPs NS: Izmir BSBS 12 104 EW: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 100 o 3N W -1 100 c 3N W 4 630 16 4 ♠4 2 2 763 2 4 K Q10 3 ♣7 6 5 3 2 ♠K J 3 N ♠ A10 8 6 J10 8 AQ5 2 W E J8653 A S ♣10 4 ♣A Q J 9 ♠Q 9 7 5 9 11-10 K94 11 9742 9 ♣K 8 10-8 650 W: Bilgin W p 1 3 3N ¨ ¨ N: Assael Open S: Kubac N E p 1♣ p 2♠ p 3 p p ¨ © § § ¨ § ª © ª ¨ © § © #1 N:: K,A,7,3 #3 W:: J,7,2,4 #5 S:: 8,4,2,J #7 E:: Q, 9,6, 6 #9 W:: 3, 3, A,7 #11 S:: 4,8,T, 5 #13 N:: 7, A,K,T © E: Aydin S p p p p ª § § ¨ § ª ª © ¨ © ¨ #2 E:: 6,5,J,2 #4 W:: T,3,9,K #6 E:: A, 2,5, 5 #8 E:: 8,9,K,4 #10 E:: T,Q, 8,6 #12 N:: Q, Q,9, J Board 16 this/total IMPs NS: Eskisehir AdalarBSB 100 EW: Izmir BSBS 12 104 o 3N W -1 100 c 3N W 4 630 16 4 ♠4 2 2 763 2 4 K Q10 3 ♣7 6 5 3 2 ♠K J 3 N ♠ A10 8 6 J10 8 AQ5 2 W E J8653 A S ♣10 4 ♣A Q J 9 ♠Q 9 7 5 9 11-10 K94 11 9742 9 ♣K 8 10-8 650 W: ERBIL W p 1 2N 3N ¨ N: CAN Closed S: UNAL N E p 1♣ p 2 p 3♠ p p © ©7,2,9,J §8,4,3,J ©T,3,5,K ©Q,4,8,6 §Q,¨7,6,§6 ª8,7,K,4 ªT,Q,¨J,K #1 N:: #3 S:: #5 W:: #7 E:: #9 E:: #11 E:: #13 E:: E: BILGEN S p p p p § ª ¨ © ¨ § § ¨ § ª ¨ ª #2 W:: T,2,9,K #4 E:: 6,5,J,2 #6 S:: 2,3,T,A #8 E:: A, 4,5, 5 #10 E:: A, 9,8, 7 #12 W:: 3, Q, A,9 hobakan: oraya kadar da baˆ ka sayˆ‰ alamadˆ ‰lar. gayet gˆ…zel kararlar verdi Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ ran takˆ‰mˆ‰.. 6.. J..p..p..1♣!..p..1 ..p..2♠ ..p..3 ..p..3 ..p..3N..p..p..p.. K.. A.. 7.. 3.. ♠6..♠5..♠J..♠2.. J.. 7.. 2.. 4..♣T..♣3..♣ 9..♣K..♣8..♣4..♣2..♣J..♣A.. 2.. 5..♣5..♣ Q.. 9.. 6..♣6..♠8..♠9..♠K..♠4..♠3.. 3..♠ A..♠7..♠T..♠Q.. 8.. 6.. 4.. 8.. T.. 5.. Q.. Q.. 9.. J..♣7.. A.. K.. T champ i: yˆ‰l 2011 haldun abi baskanb: onun iˆ§in burdayˆ‰z ya abi akgul: rakipte 7+ ♠ varken 2 zaten zor oynarsin baskanb: ˆ zmir maˆ§a dˆ¶ndˆ… ve iˆ te o el geldi vahaboglu: galiba Eskiˆ ehir takˆ‰mˆ‰ yarˆ‰ finale ˆ§ˆ‰ktˆ‰..p © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © © ¨ © © © ¨ © ¨ - 51 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) hobakan: pik empasˆ‰na sˆ¶ylenen ˆ ilem de ˆ anslˆ‰ elleriydi diyelim..p..1♣ hobakan: sˆ¶ylenmeyen daha doˆ ru olacak..p akgul: ben x ten yanayim..1 ..p champ i: 13 puan 4-3 majˆ¶r varken bende x atˆ ‰yorum haldun abi..2 vahaboglu: yˆ‰llar ne ˆ§abuk ilerliyor exerdar: en iyi ataˆ ˆ‰ yaptˆ‰ j vahaboglu: 1 imp fark olur ancak bu elde..p vahaboglu: Doˆ unun eliyle 2’h denebilir vahaboglu: 2 tez: vale baˆ larsa..2N..p..3♠ hobakan: 3 NT..p funtay : ZABUNOˆ LU - YILANKIRAN bu devre 9 - 31 16. bord sonunda tez: Eskiˆ ehir Adalar BSK ..TEBRˆ K EDˆ Y ORUZ....3N funtay: Eskiˆ ehir takimini tebrik ederiz vahaboglu: evet tebrikler exerdar: maˆ§ˆ‰n son eli, skor deˆ iˆ miyecek belki Eskiˆ ehre 5 dan imp gelebilir baskanb: ben db atˆ‰labilir diyorum ama Can ˆ ‰n ˆ¶nce pess sonra 3karoya db lˆ‰ ile mutabˆ ‰k deˆ ilim vahaboglu: K..p..p..p vahaboglu: 3NT oynanˆ‰rsa 2 imp verir.. 7 funtay: bir sonraki macta gˆ¶rˆ…ˆ mek ˆ…zere exerdar: 6 da 6spades tez: hocam bi uyarida bulun istanbul ve ankara istikametine gidecek yolcularin hava sartlarina dikkat etmesi :) bi ˆ§ok bricci yola ˆ§ˆ‰kmˆ‰ˆ :) tez: diyor birisi elenmemize gˆ¶nderme yapˆ‰ yor.. vahaboglu: atak olacak vahaboglu: olmadˆ‰ hobakan: batmaz artˆ‰k vahaboglu: bence de vahaboglu: 12 imp hobakan: R ataˆ ˆ‰na da batmazdˆ‰ erdinˆ§ muhtemelen ama tez: batacak.. 2 vahaboglu: iyi bileyim de oyunu ben oynarken nasˆ‰l oynayacaˆ ˆ‰mˆ‰ belirleyeyim bari akgul: unalin bu eliyle 1sn de 4sp derdik herhalde phantoma: siz erken davranip kˆ¶tˆ… havalara kalmadiniz hocam :).. 9 vahaboglu: Dˆ Nˆ P BLOKE KALMAZLARSA tez: ilker ˆ§ubukˆ§uda iyi koydu ruayˆ‰:) tez: onor sur onor vahaboglu: ama lˆ¶ve de yok vahaboglu: gˆ…zel maˆ§ oldu.. J..♣T..♣2 funtay: ˆ ZMˆ R Bˆ BS - ESKˆ ˆ EHˆ R ADALAR © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ © © © © BRˆ ˆ 39-20 Bord 13 funtay: ZABUNOˆ LU - YILANKIRAN 50 127 mac sonucu, Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran takˆ‰mˆ‰na tebrikler vahaboglu: evet ama yer belli K fireli olmayacak iyi de olabilir..♣9 phantoma: evet ..♣K..♣8..♣4 hobakan: bence de solumuzda tek ya da yok iken en iyi ataktˆ‰r bu sekansda tez: ne dese haklˆ‰..bilmiyorki ciˆ erim yanˆ‰ yor..♣3 hobakan: tebrik ediyoruz. hobakan: yarˆ‰ finalde daha gˆ…zel maˆ§lar bizleri bekliyor. vahaboglu: blokaj kalktˆ‰ tez: diˆ er yarˆ‰ kaˆ§ta baˆ lˆ‰yor bilen var mˆ ‰? vahaboglu: batar diye demedim, ne atak etmesi gerekir diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yorum..♣J vahaboglu: ˆ lker J yi gˆ…zel dˆ¶ndˆ…..♠6.. ♠5..♠J vahaboglu: 10 lu Tazelerde olsa batacaktˆ‰.. ♠2.. T tez: Dˆ…nya emekˆ§i kadˆ‰nlar gˆ…nˆ…mˆ…z kutlu olsun.. baskanb : Es-Es maˆ§ˆ‰n iˆ§inde kalmaya devam ediyor .. 3.. 5 akgul: demedi ve impleri haneye yazdi, helal olsun riyilikci: Devre skoru 41-27 Zabunoglu riyilikci: Fark 55 impye dˆ ´…ˆ ´”tˆ ´… tez: 25 imp de bu maˆ§ta fark var champ i: rahmi son devre 18.40 mˆ‰ 19.00 mu riyilikci: 18.40 tez: onˆ…mˆ…zdeki skorlarla fark biraz daha kapanˆ‰r gibi.bu maˆ§ta tez: son yarˆ‰ heyecanlˆ‰ geˆ§ecek:) tez: aˆ§ˆ‰k odayˆ‰ izleyelim..orada devam champ i: 18.40 da gˆ¶rˆ…ˆ mek ˆ…zere teˆ ekkˆ …rler ice vahaboglu: iyi akˆ amlar ˆ imdilik akgul: tsk herkese ve ozellikle super operatorumuze vugraphzzy: sonraki maˆ§ta gˆ¶rˆ…ˆ mek ˆ… zere.. vugraphzzy: tˆ…m yorumcularˆ‰mˆ‰za teˆ ekkˆ…rler.. exerdar: bu elde Zafer Bilgin 8 el toplayˆ‰p A ˆ‰ ˆ§ekmemiˆ .. K vahaboglu: gece yarˆ‰sˆ‰ :).. 2.. 3 vahaboglu: defans gˆ…zel yapˆ‰ldˆ‰.. T funtay: 15.40.. A.. Q.. 4 tez: 15 40 imiˆ galiba ¨ © © © © © © ¨ © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ - 52 - Turkish Winter Championships 2011(Semi Final 3_3) exerdar: tebrikler Eskiˆ ehir Adalar, yarˆ‰ final 1. maˆ§ˆ‰ 13:00 da , teˆ ekkˆ…r herkese.. 8.. 6.. A vahaboglu: herkese iyi gˆ…nler dilerim tez: iyi gˆ…nler tez: izmir eskiˆ ehir maˆ§ˆ‰ yayˆ‰nlanacak.. 4 funtay: mac cok cabuk oynandi.. 5 tez: 15 40 ta gˆ¶rˆ…ˆ ˆ…rˆ…z..hoˆ ˆ§akalˆ‰n.iyi gˆ…nler:)..♣5 funtay: herkese tesekkˆ…rler vahaboglu: iyi gˆ…nler hobakan : operatˆ¶rlerimize itimadˆ‰mˆ‰z sonsuz ..♣Q.. 7.. 6..♣6..♣A.. 9.. 8..♣7..♠ 8..♠7..♠K..♠4..♠3.. Q..♠A..♠9..♠T..♠Q.. J.. K exerdar: ˆ§ok pahalˆ‰ olabilir Eskiˆ ehre vahaboglu: iyi akˆ amlar diˆ er taraftan seyre devam hobakan: iyi akˆ amlar herkese atabey: yanlis girilmis olabilir mi diosun ozgur baskanb: iyi akˆ amlar teˆ ekkˆ…rlerrrr adenarc: sabah 10.00 final maˆ§ˆ‰ © © © ¨ ¨ - 53 - ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨
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