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9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR) 9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR) Board 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Onstein - NED vs Angelini - ITA Onstein - NED Angelini - ITA Angelini - ITA Onstein - NED N Drijver E Nunes N Helness E Muller S Brink W Fantoni S Helgemo W De Wijs Contract By M D N-S E-W Contract By M D N-S E-W 4♥x E 3 500 4♥x E 2 300 4♠ E 4 420 4♠ E 4 420 3N E 2 200 2♥ E 2 110 5♥ W 2 200 4♥ W 4 620 6♦ E 6 920 3N W 6 490 4♠ N 1 50 4♠ N 1 50 4♠ S 4 620 IMPs 5 7 13 - 10 25 10 IMPs Onstein - NED Angelini - ITA This segment 25 10 Penalty 0 0 Carryover 59 60 total 84 70 -1- References: BridgeBase online. Edited by M.Sugino 9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR) Board 1 this/total IMPs NS: Onstein - NED 5 64 EW: Angelini - ITA 60 o 4 x E -3 500 c 4 x E -2 300 © © 1 7-4 ♠7 6 Q65 6-4 9 K9632 8 ♣ A Q10 8 ♠J8432 N ♠ Q6 7 AK J 9 8 4 3 W E QJ4 A5 S ♣9 7 6 3 ♣ 54 ♠ A K10 9 5 6 5 10 2 7 10 8 7 4 ♣K J 2 5 110 W: Fantoni W p ª N: Drijver Open S: Brink N E 1 4 p p ¨ © E: Nunes © © 1 7-4 ♠7 6 Q65 6-4 9 K9632 8 ♣ A Q10 8 ♠J8432 N ♠ Q6 7 AK J 9 8 4 3 W E QJ4 A5 S ♣9 7 6 3 ♣ 54 ♠ A K10 9 5 6 5 10 2 7 10 8 7 4 ♣K J 2 5 110 W: De Wijs S X W p #1 S:: A,,, hedyg: ok lets try again !..1 hedyg: hello to Erdinˆ§ :) hedyg: and welcome to Niek :) hedyg : NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/ documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostendeuropean/OpenTeams/netherlands/brink-drijver.pdf niekbrink: Hi all hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/ documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil /bermudabowl/italy/fantoni-nunes.pdf..4 niekbrink: Welcome to this very close final so far.. ..p..p..p..♠A ¨ Board 1 this/total IMPs NS: Angelini - ITA 60 EW: Onstein - NED 5 64 o 4 x E -3 500 c 4 x E -2 300 ¨ © N: Helness Closed S: Helgemo N E 1 4 p p ¨ © E: Muller S X ª #1 S:: A,,, vugraphzus: hi all vugraphzus: hello everyone hedyg: good afternoon and welcome back to the ¨ final of the 9th European Champions Cup..1 ..4 .. vugraphzus: hello everyone..p Gerben42: good morning! EW play relay precision..p vugraphzus: Good morning Gerben42: so 3 shows a positive with 2254 h bertens: good afternoon all..p jbgood: hi Huub and all..♠A hedyg: this is segment 3/4, 12 bds /segment ©¨ ¨ -2- 9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR) Board NS: EW: o 4♠ c 4♠ 2 2 this/total IMPs Onstein - NED 64 Angelini - ITA 60 E 4 420 E 4 420 3 ♠ K10 9 3 8 4 3 J93 6 ♣ J96542 ♠Q J 3 2 N ♠A 8 6 5 KQ6 A72 W E K10 7 4 Q65 S ♣K 3 ♣ A10 7 ♠74 10-9 10 J10 9 5 4 3 9 A82 10 ♣Q8 7 430 W: Fantoni W 2♣ 4♠ N: Drijver Open S: Brink N E 1N p 2♠ p p © ª © ª E: Nunes S p p p ª ¨ #1 S:: J,K,8,2 #2 W:: 2,9,A,4 #3 E:: 5,7,Q,K #4 N:: 3,5,A,4 #5 S:: 3,6, T, niekbrink: as there was some trouble witht eh connection we speed through the first boards..1N..p..2 ♣..p..2♠..p..4♠..p..p..p.. J.. K hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBOTV. Watch all vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player , some don’t. ..... 8.. 2..♠2..♠9..♠A..♠4..♠5..♠7..♠Q..♠K.. 3.. 5.. A.. 4.. 3.. 6..♠T hedyg: Open one browser window per table © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © -3- Board NS: EW: o 4♠ c 4♠ 2 2 this/total IMPs Angelini - ITA 60 Onstein - NED 64 E 4 420 E 4 420 3 ♠ K10 9 3 8 4 3 J93 6 ♣ J96542 ♠Q J 3 2 N ♠A 8 6 5 KQ6 A72 W E K10 7 4 Q65 S ♣K 3 ♣ A10 7 ♠74 10-9 10 J10 9 5 4 3 9 A82 10 ♣Q8 7 430 W: De Wijs W 2♣ 4♠ N: Helness Closed S: Helgemo N E 1N p 2♠ p p © ª © ª © E: Muller S p p p ª ¨ #1 S:: J,K,8,2 #2 W:: 2,9,A,4 #3 E:: 6,7,Q,K #4 N:: 9,5,A,4 #5 S:: 3,6, T, 7 vugraphzus: bu boardla ilgili hobakan: yani biz oldu tamam diyelim.. olursa olur olmazsa yenisine bakarˆ‰z:) atalok: rakibin biri el aˆ§mˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰r son 2 elde atalok: digeride ˆ§akmˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰r atalok: son 3 veya murat: italyanlar ˆ u an biraz masayˆ‰ gekiyor murat: geriyor murat : bizimkilerin konvansiyon kartˆ‰nda yeterli aˆ§ˆ‰klama yok hobakan : eˆ er battˆ‰ yazˆ‰ldˆ‰ysa neyin gerginliˆ i anlayamadˆ‰m murat: ataˆ ˆ‰ deˆ iˆ tirmek istiyorlar atalok: fantoni ben karo ˆ§ˆ‰kmazdˆ‰m der hemen hobakan: demek kaˆ ˆ‰t tam olsa iyicene cˆ‰ ngar ˆ§ˆ‰kacakmˆ‰ˆ :) vahaboglu: hakem avantaja bˆ‰rakmadˆ‰ mˆ ‰ murat: ˆ imdi 4piki yapmˆ‰ˆ lardˆ‰ diye garip bir ˆ ikayette bulunuyorlar 9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR) murat: masaya Rahmi geldi :) hobakan: hakkaten garip murat: Salvo’nun 3♣’si kˆ¶rler demekmiˆ yakop: zaten atak deˆ iˆ se de batmaz kart ne cˆ‰ karsa cˆ‰ksˆ‰n hobakan: aaaa ˆ¶le mi ismail? hiˆ§ bakmadˆ‰k biz ona hobakan: yani ben ..:) tez: selamlar tez: iyi akˆ amlar imp_jan: bound to be ultra slow session Gerben42: maybe it will be easy hands imp_jan: anyhow murat: ˆ zmir’den herkese gˆ…naydˆ‰n..1N! timve: toch lijkt he 7 impen voor Angelini eerste spel 2celik1: potansiyel 2 imp gelebilir Izmir Buyuksehir Takimina..p yusufb: selam tezcan hoˆ geldin hobakan: gˆ…naydˆ‰nnnn efem:):):)..2♣ arigun: herkese gunaydin champ i: yeni kadro deˆ iˆ kliˆ i var takˆ‰mda jbgood: strong club vugraphzus: hello everyone champ i: slm tez hoˆ geldin..p atalok: gnydˆ‰nn..2♠ imp_jan: check for great stories, bulletins, hands, pics fabsayc: welcome to the last segment of this very close match hobakan: sˆ…leyman abi de gelmiˆ valla saˆ olsun:):)..p murat: Salvo’nun 20, Fantoni’nin 10cm uzaˆ ˆ‰ ndayˆ‰m :) yusufb: gˆ…naydˆ‰nn herkese vugraphzus: Gˆ…naydˆ‰n herkese hobakan: sabahˆ‰n bu saaatinde:) hedyg: 1 = 11-15 unbalanced jbgood: 2♣ showing and a pos hand..4♠ arigun: tarafmiyiz murat :)..p yusufb: takˆ‰mˆ‰mˆ‰za baˆ arˆ‰lar murat: asla :) phantoma: anlasamadilar galiba murat: 1♣’i kuvvetli oynuyorlar tez: dolayˆ‰sˆ‰yla ˆ lem gˆ¶rmeyen ellerle 4 majˆ¶rˆ… gˆ¶nderiyorlar umut varsa atalok: 5 imp geldi sonra gerisini bekliyozz atalok: elden alˆ‰p karo oynuyacak Gerben42: at least short bidding again hobakan: hg ˆ ampi:) hobakan: takˆ‰mˆ‰mˆ‰za bol ˆ ans... sekans atladˆ‰k sanˆ‰rˆ‰m..p ¨ ¨ murat: mixed raise sandˆ‰m dedi Kubaˆ§ hobakan: ama kaˆ ˆ‰tlar olsun diye gelmiˆ arigun: atagindan sonra cok love kurtarir h bertens: looks like 4ha down 1 2celik1: selam Tezcan hosgeldin..p imp_jan: http://www.eurobridge.org/index2.html ¨ and www.bridgetopics.com Gerben42: can discard 2♠ on ♣ even on a lead so this shouldnt be TOO long tez: batˆ‰yor bakalˆ‰m nolacak.. J mcphee: hi hedyg: hi Bob :) fabsayc : Helgemo-Helness are now in the angelini sponsered team fabsayc : playing full time in tournaments in various countries including Italian events jbgood: a kib points out that if N had bid 4 directly on the previous one, W might have bid 4NT and EW bid the minor suit game.. K.. 8 tez: izmirdeyim.kulupte bugun seminer vardˆ‰ ..seminer yerine vugraf seyrediyorlarmˆ‰ˆ ..onlara el sallˆ‰yorum:).. 2..♠2 atalok: cl ruayˆ‰ at nezihh mcphee: so it seems 10 tricks are there murat: Fantoni bayaˆ ˆ‰ bi gerildi..♠9 tez: asˆ‰ alˆ‰p almamasˆ‰ farketmiyor jbgood: it is winnable now - but not in practice I think..♠A..♠4 h bertens: even if he has the handrecords it will take him some time fabsayc: i think best line here win in dummy spade ace spade yusufb: C A cizebilir salvo..♠6 yusufb: egrisi dogrusuna geldi:)..♠7 jbgood: take in dummy, club, take the heart lead with ace, unblock spades, ruff a club, throw diamonds on spade !9 atalok: 3 cl neymiˆ ?..♠Q arigun: 10 love olacak galiba..♠K.. 9 funtay: slm Tez tez: ˆ§aktˆ‰rmasˆ‰ iyi deˆ ildi tez: bu en iyi defans atalok: muhtemel battˆ‰ tez: havaya ˆ§akmak zorunda kalacaktˆ‰ alˆ‰cˆ ‰ kozla murat: kˆ¶rˆ… ˆ§aktˆ‰rmaya giderken batacak sanki ˆ imdi atalok: ˆ efim yaparsa 12 alˆ‰rˆ‰z jbgood: Q9 tez: ˆ efim yapamaz yaptˆ‰rˆ‰rlarsa ancak:).. 5 atalok: belki sp ruya gider d.. A ¨ © © © © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ -4- 9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR) funtay: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/champions- ¨ cup-2010 canli izlemek iˆ§in.. 4 Gerben42: claim time sarkar_suk: yes hedyg: H&H still sitting out.. champ i: ˆ§izdi asˆ‰.. 3.. 6..♠T marlowepi: there ws a double dummy line here that makes, but no reason for Boye to find it © © Board NS: EW: o 3N c 2 3 © this/total IMPs Onstein - NED 7 71 Angelini - ITA 60 E -2 200 E 2 110 3 4 ♠K 8 7 4-5 A543 4 3 43 7 ♣Q 9 7 6 ♠ A Q10 4 N ♠62 K 10 9 8 7 6 2 W E K Q10 9 8 7 AJ S ♣83 ♣K J 5 ♠J953 8 8 QJ 8 652 9 ♣ A10 4 2 5 120 W: Fantoni W ¨ ¨ 1 1♠ 2 p N: Drijver Open S: Brink N E p p p p § E: Nunes S p p p p © 1 2♣ 3N #1 S:: 2,,, hedyg: the webcam is off.. 7..p..1 ..p vugraphzur : hi all .. we lived a connection problem but now everything seems ok..1 ..p..1♠ ..p..2♣..p..2 ..p..3N..p..p..p..♣2 hedyg: welcome back Dan :) djneill: hi all © ¨ -5- ¨ © 9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR) Board NS: EW: o 3N c 2 3 © this/total IMPs Angelini - ITA 60 Onstein - NED 7 71 E -2 200 E 2 110 3 4 ♠K 8 7 4-5 A543 4 3 43 7 ♣Q 9 7 6 ♠ A Q10 4 N ♠62 K 10 9 8 7 6 2 W E K Q10 9 8 7 AJ S ♣83 ♣K J 5 ♠J953 8 8 QJ 8 652 9 ♣ A10 4 2 5 120 W: De Wijs W ¨ 1 1♠ p N: Helness Closed S: Helgemo N E p p p ª5,Q,K,6 ª3,A,8,2 §5,4,©K,§7 ¨A,5,7,4 #1 S:: #3 S:: #5 E:: #7 E:: E: Muller © © 1 2 S p p p §9,J,A,3 §8,Q,K,2 ª4,7,©2,ª9 ¨J,6,8,3 #2 N:: #4 W:: #6 W:: #8 E:: yusufb: aslˆ‰nda nezih yavaˆ ve dikkatli oynar ˆ asˆ‰rdˆ‰m murat: masada bi konuˆ ma geˆ§iyor ˆ u an murat: direktˆ¶r ˆ§aˆ rˆ‰ldˆ‰ hobakan: ufak bir noktaya aˆ§ˆ‰klˆ‰k getireyim kendi adˆ‰ma:) hobakan: burada yaptˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰mˆ‰z ˆ ey yorum ama iˆ§erisinde taraftarlˆ‰k da var:) murat: http://img687.imageshack.us/i/img00045201011131625.jpg / Gerben42: this probably wont swing a lot either marlowepi: after D ace in dummy, lead club. then heart ace and spade king. later can throw both diamonds on spades after club ruff in dummy. W ruffs with ntural trump trick and E doesnt get ... marlowepi: his ruff hedyg: yes ¨ hedyg: 1 or 1NT? hobakan: ama tˆ…m bunlar 4 pik TAM durumunda tartˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰lmasˆ‰ gereken hususlar idi..p 2celik1: wd Salvador Assael marlowepi: oh, sorry just arrived didnt know anyone had talked about the hand..1 ! h bertens: Not so easy for ew to bid there game after this start hedyg: 12-14 NT tez: ♣ ataˆ ˆ‰ bulunabilecek mi?..p..1 tez: her masada 6♠ oynanacak..p Gerben42: 2♣ = 11-15 with ♣ atalok: 7 nt gelinirmi?..1♠ tez: 3nt ye geleceˆ iz hobakan: normal atak Dam tez: gˆ…neyin eliyle aˆ§ˆ‰lmazsa kuzey oynayacak.o zaman kabak hobakan: bir ˆ ekilde Bˆ…lent mˆ…dahil olmalˆ ‰ :) atalok: nafiz abilerde oynar ama kuzeyden yusufb: bence gelinir..p yakop: 7 karonun ˆ ansˆ‰ cok yˆ…ksek 7 nt de oluyo bu daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰mla hobakan: gelinir dicez tabi.. yusufb: 7 yada 7nt oynicaklar murat: Nunes sakinledi bˆ…lten okuyor hobakan: ˆ u an 7d dersek kˆ¶r kupu yeriz tez: yapmasˆ‰ zor champ i: 4 cl deni p x gelirse 6 yada gidilmez atalok: guneyin eliyle aˆ§maz tez: gˆ…neyden oynuyor nafiz..2 yusufb: cˆ‰kmayabilir ..p yakop: ˆ ansˆ‰ yˆ…ksek dedim olur deˆ il tabii ki 7 nt oynasˆ‰nlar isterim hobakan: aynen aynen:) atalok : belki sp 10 ˆ§ˆ‰kar meraklˆ‰dˆ‰r bunlar Gerben42: dbl is an interesting choice - will he try to recover with 3♠ now? sarkar_suk: they r playing power prec? fabsayc: open room 3nt not horrible but over ambitious yusufb: ama yapˆ‰labilir..p tez: dam atak edildi.yaptˆ‰k atalok: sen 2 sinidemi seyrediyon tez? Gerben42: Tarzan precision hedyg: got a dog? hobakan: ben de 7 demeyelim diyorum..p hobakan: :) tez: ♣ ataˆ ˆ‰ avantaj ama yinede batar Gerben42: its with lots of relay..♠5 sarkar_suk: thx gerben..♠Q ¨ © © ¨ © © © ¨ -6- 9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR) marlowepi: this should be a good NS result by fabsayc: he can afford three heart losers, only anyone’s standards h bertens: great result for ns hobakan: as sorulamadˆ‰..♠K tez: ˆ imdi kubac ♣ atak ederse batacak tez: zor champ i: h dam klasik atak cl zor mcphee: all things going his way = 11 tricks hedyg: 11 tricks and next arigun: benim anlamadigim perde de fantoni ve salvo birbirini goruyor atak ederken fantoniye dogru alert gelmedi mi..♠6 murat: edildi Cengiz Abi. kˆ‰sacasˆ‰ konvansiyon kartlarˆ‰ yetersiz ve farklˆ‰ aˆ§ˆ‰klamalarda bulundular diye bir ˆ ikayette bulundular yusufb : onlar aglˆ‰cak oyle yada boyle bi onemi yokki yakop: aˆ larken de italyan yapˆ‰yolar mˆ‰ murat:) yusufb: bu konuˆ mada hiˆ§ hoˆ uma gitti 4 cue et diyo nezih yusufb: hiˆ§ hoˆ uma gitmedi murat: :) arasˆ‰ra yusufb: salvo etmeli tez: yu bˆ‰rakacak atalok: imkansˆ‰z tez: atak edilsin diye verilmiˆ kartlar murat: Bˆ…lent’in suratˆ‰ ekˆ idi :) tez: kuzey cue etse ♣ ile kontr atsa bulent aslan...tek ˆ art tez: hi all fabsayc: welcome Tez hobakan: hiˆ§ kc yok zannetti Nezih..♣9 tez: ben olsam 3♣ derdim aslanˆ‰n eliyle funtay: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/championscup-2010 webcam canli tez: ♠ gelmezse ˆ ansˆ‰mˆ‰z var..♣J champ i: sp apel verdi..♣A tez: deer miˆ im:) Gerben42: Tarzan was played by Johnny Weissmuller what’s in a name tez: ♠ gelmeseydi yatˆ‰r kaldˆ‰r ˆ§ok iˆ i vardˆ ‰ ama yapardˆ‰..♣3..♠3 Gerben42: behave so no problem here..♠A.. ♠8..♠2..♣8..♣Q..♣K sarkar_suk: yes card lies friendly Gerben42: i dont think they care about making the last trick with 7..♣2 tez: 8li ˆ§akmasˆ‰ iyi..♣5 tez: i thk 10 of ♠ was better tez: he doesnt know ’s are friendly..♣4.. K.. ♣7 danger is an unlikely diamond break (nobody lead the suit) tez: yes.sry tez: it was right play tez: ace tez: yoksa kozda alamˆ‰yorlardˆ‰..♠4..♠7.. 2..♠9 jbgood: Onstein tried 3 NT on 2 in the OR, for 2 down and another 3 imps for Angelini mcphee: why the agony? hedyg: W does not need those ♠s atalok: 13 verebiliriz 16 alabiliriz.. A yusufb: bu borddan malesef sayˆ‰ veririz funtay: su anda webcamda gˆ¶rˆ…nenler Nezih Kubac /kˆ‰rmˆ‰zˆ‰ formali ve Geir Helgamo.. 5 tez: nicely played.. 7.. 4.. J.. 6.. 8.. 3 fabsayc: now claims ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ © -7- © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ 9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR) Board NS: EW: o 5 c 4 © © 4 this/total IMPs Onstein - NED 13 84 Angelini - ITA 60 W -2 200 W 4 620 4 3 ♠ KQ865 42 8 92 2 2 AJ 7 ♣ A5 ♠A J 7 N ♠10 9 AK 8 4 3 Q J65 W E Q K10 9 5 4 2 S ♣J762 ♣Q ♠3 9 5 10 7 10 8763 9 ♣ K10 9 8 4 3 5 -500 W: Fantoni W 1 p 5 N: Drijver Open S: Brink N E 1♠ 4 4♠ p p p © © #1 N::ªQ,9,3,A #3 N::§A,Q,T,6 #5 E::¨2,6,Q,A #7 E::©Q,7,3,2 #9 E::¨T,7,§J,©9 E: Nunes S p p p © ª7,K,T,§8 ª6,©J,§3,ªJ §5,©5,§4,2 ¨K,3,§7,¨J #2 W:: #4 N:: #6 N:: #8 E:: hedyg: Angelini sitting out this segment niekbrink: The dutch scored 5 imps on the first board of this session retaking the lead, now by 4 vugraphzur: now we are about to start bidding of board 4 niekbrink: let..1 niekbrink: let’s hope for a more exciting session than previous..1♠..4 ..p..p djneill: suprised a little at the 4 opposite an unlimited opening..4♠..p djneill : West’s hand has no upper limit, it is forcing hedyg: Fantoni in the tank niekbrink: I guess it will be 4spades X hedyg: yes hedyg: Q overtake and Q hedyg: sry folks, no webcam hedyg: guess Murat went home.. vugraphzur: no, he’s already here but i thk he © © © © ¨ lives some problem w connection also hedyg: oh ok hedyg: so we might get the live stream later hedyg: Brink has surely passed, Fantoni thinking niekbrink: let’s hope so, especially in situations like this, it is fun to watch the plaers..p..5 hedyg: hmm niekbrink : on a spade lead this should go 1 down..p..p..p..♠Q niekbrink : wich seems a good result for the Dutch hedyg: easy defense for Drijver djneill: would not East bid the same way with 5 hearts and a singleton spade..♠9..♠3..♠A vugraphzur: now Murat left the room .. i thk he lost his hope about connection hedyg: Nunes didnt show any defensive values so Fantoni worried 4♠ might make hedyg: oh no! come back Murat, please! so many specs asking about the live stream niekbrink: spec telling me that on board 3 closed room EW is in 2ha brgpro: i am surprised for the choice of 5 ... brgpro: ... hedyg: hi Jack, welcome :) niekbrink: HI uncle Jack :) hedyg: Jack dont you think Nunes bis 4 like a poor man with 5 s and singleton ♠? niekbrink: maybe fantoni was afraid nunes had 5 hearts... brgpro: hopefully my net will be ok now niekbrink: but if that is possible, shouldn’t Nunes haven’t doubled 4 spades? hedyg: i have seen them bid 2NT with less than this vugraphzur: players in open room were very happy about lack of connection bec. TD said that they can start playing w/o waiting for scores of closed room hedyg: LOL..♠7..♠K..♠T..♣8..♣A niekbrink: spec suggesting east should have bid 4diamonds.... sounds reasonable to me (or 3 diamonds, if that’s fit showing)..♣Q..♣T..♣6..♠ 6 hedyg: or 2♠.. J..♣3..♠J.. 2.. 6.. Q.. A hedyg: or anything but 4 niekbrink: The dutch scored 7 imps on board 3, playing 2 hearts in the closed room and beating a vulnerable 3nt by 2 at this table..♣5.. 5..♣4..♣ 2 © © © © © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © -8- 9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR) Board NS: EW: o 5 c 4 © © 4 this/total IMPs Angelini - ITA 60 Onstein - NED 13 84 W -2 200 W 4 620 4 3 ♠ KQ865 42 8 92 2 2 AJ 7 ♣ A5 ♠A J 7 N ♠10 9 AK 8 4 3 Q J65 W E Q K10 9 5 4 2 S ♣J762 ♣Q ♠3 9 5 10 7 10 8763 9 ♣ K10 9 8 4 3 5 -500 W: De Wijs W 1 4 N: Helness Closed S: Helgemo N E 1♠ 4 p p E: Muller S © ¨ p © p #1 N::§A,Q,T,6 #2 N::ªK,9,3,A #3 W::¨Q,A,2,8 #4 N::ªQ,T,§4,ª7 #5 N::ª5,©Q,§3,ªJ #6 E::¨4,6,©8,¨J #7 W::©A,2,5,7 atalok : bence 16 alma ˆ ansˆ‰mˆ‰z daha yuksek..©Q..©7..©3..©2..¨K..¨3..♣7..¨J..¨ T..¨7..♣J..©9 Gerben42: an almost-slam here djneill: hi all hedyg: hi Dan, welcome :) imp_jan: HI FOLKS mcphee: hi hedyg: and Jan :) marlowepi: Not sure why W did not intervene, but presumably due to volors and major suits lengths. more generally, people play all kinds of junk over opps NT, most of it much better suited to .....1 marlowepi: MPs than to IMPs. The one thing that methods designed for IMPs need to do is make provision for showing the majors, because if you have a game or a good partscore you can win the ... marlowepi: declaration with, that is where it rates to be. the now-passe Ripstra convention would © -9- have gotten EW to game there Gerben42: 1 = forcing..1♠ tez: ♣ empas geˆ§miyor .. empas geˆ§miyor..4 ! marlowepi: colors, not volors:)..p imp_jan: everybody is exited about the outcome of this match atalok: 2cl sonra 3 cl ˆ eklinde durulabilir..4 Gerben42: 2♣ = at least one of ♣, balanced, fit marlowepi : that remark was not intended as acritique of the EW methods--i dont even know what they are. only pointing out that a method that has long passed out of vogue has much to be said ... marlowepi: for it fabsayc: helness 7222 shape so goes slow, will bid 4s now hobakan: :):) ..p tez: 3nt iyi yer tez: bakalˆ‰m gelecek miyiz atalok: 1nt?..p tez: her iki masada da batacak zonlar..az batan kazanˆ‰r atalok: minoredemi forsing? hobakan: en yakˆ‰n anter champ i: kenan 1 nt alert ne edildi murat: angelini forcing dedi sanki hobakan: sorulmamˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰tˆ‰r muhtemelen ama biz ˆ§ok merak ettik bi zahmet sorsana Murat eccone: ♣ ler murat: angelini sormadan aˆ§ˆ‰klama yapˆ‰yo zaten saˆ olsun :) tez: yapay sistem oynuyorlar..1♣ aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ dˆ ‰ˆ ˆ‰ndakiler limit aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ .kuvvetli olamaz vugraphzus: Murat soruyor sanˆ‰rˆ‰m eccone: yada rˆ¶le olabilir belki champ i: 9-11 cller galiba tez: 2♣ 2 ya transfer..sonra 2 nt diyerek davet edecek murat: Fantoni sorular sordu tez: zorlu bu elle daveti kabul eder sanˆ‰rˆ‰m hedyg: 1♣=16+..p mcphee: nip and tuck for sure champ i: 4 h oluyor 3 nt batˆ‰yor..♣A murat: 1NT GF dendi ˆ imdi murat: fakat 2dia minimummuˆ eccone: ˆ imdi ? hedyg: 1 0-7 imp_jan: francesco arrived here in izmir by boat fabsayc: oh well 0 for 1 murat: dolayˆ‰sˆ‰yla Boye pas dedi..♣Q © ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ 9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR) murat: Boye ne diyeceˆ imi bilemedim pas dedim diyor hobakan: baˆ larˆ‰m Boye iˆ e ben yaa hobakan: 3 ♣ desin 5 ♣ desin:) champ i: 5 karoda desinler murat: Angelini: niye 2tref degil murat: Boye: Bu el uygun deˆ iˆ murat: *deˆ il atalok: saˆ§maladˆ‰lar kazandˆ‰lar kˆ‰sa ozet bu bence murat: ˆ imdilik bˆ…tˆ…n dedikodu bu kadar :) champ i: kesinlikle hobakan: bu da uyar mˆ‰? hedyg: sry 0-8..♣T imp_jan: angelini that is..♣6 djneill: looks like East is superaccepting the transfer with the great hand for imp_jan: yesterday he was still a little shaky (due to the waves) hedyg: 1NT denies 19+ mcphee: yes imp_jan: today he is figthing hedyg: :) djneill: mirror distribution almost will hurt a little, and we’ll see about the restricted choice in hearts mcphee: the ♠ spots are just enough to let 3 make I think, with the right view in trumps imp_jan: the latest news is that next year Iceland very likely will be the host for the 10th EC Cup hedyg: 2 xfer, 2♠ looks like a preaccept fabsayc: this looks like an easy make to me tez: 3 nt yi yaptˆ‰rdˆ‰k diˆ er masada ..♠K tez: ˆ§ok farketti tez: doˆ ru ♠ dˆ¶nˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…de bulmuˆ tuk hobakan: ufak bir not verelim.. Milli takˆ‰mda kim deˆ iˆ irse deˆ iˆ sin 2000 li yˆ‰llarˆ‰n baˆ ˆ ‰ndan beri deˆ iˆ meyen tek oyuncu Brogeland tez: 1 iˆ§eri muhtemel hobakan: big bradˆ‰r 200 diyor tez: 3 nt yapˆ‰lˆ‰yordu..dolayˆ‰sˆ‰yla sayˆ ‰ kaybedebiliriz hobakan: 2 p-p- gelince 3 da bir alternetif olabilir miydi diye ......♠9 Gerben42 : now Fantoni must bid 5 as he knows no control..♠3 tez: yorum yapsam tutuklanˆ‰rˆ‰m.onun iˆ§in susmak en iyisi bu elle ilgili..♠A hobakan: Helgamo nun oynamadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ zamanlarda da , dˆ…nya ˆ ampiyonluˆ unu kazandˆ‰klarˆ‰ nda da murat: Bˆ…lent biraz daha aˆ§ˆ‰klama aldˆ‰ © © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © Angelini’den fabsayc: can set up the diamonds tez: apel defosta anlaˆ amadˆ‰lar.. Q tez: ♠ 9 lu saˆ kalˆ‰yor hedyg: 3 another xfer 2celik1 : eyvah eyvah hem 3nt olmus hem de burada 4 deklare edildi.. A djneill: South was beginning to hope they would play in with all West’s ART bids hedyg: lol hedyg: no, 3 was not a cuebid.. 2 djneill: South has a small clue in that North did not double ANY of the bids, maybe North has something elsewhere.. 8..♠Q..♠T mcphee : i suspect he will manage this with elimination play fabsayc: fantoni erred with spade return and then they tapped dummy effectively funtay: Bilmiyenler icin: asagida yer alan Gˆ B yazisini tiklayip en alttaki double dummy analizleri secenegini tiklarsaniz el hakkinda olup olmayacaˆ i bilgi veriyor program..♣4..♠7 hedyg: there goes the loser?..♠5 hobakan : belki bizimkiler hiˆ§ mˆ…dahale etmezse Sˆ…leymanˆ‰n dediˆ i gibi 16 da alˆ‰r ˆ‰z yani:).. Q tez: onada bˆ…yˆ…k abi diyoruz biz..hiˆ§ hata yapmaz fabsayc: playing the diamond first allows declarer to win the race..♣3..♠J fabsayc: diamond now but not absolutely clear to ruff low fabsayc: knowing north has 7 spades, he might infer the 7222 shape for such mild bidding tez: 3 nt de 4♠ birde alˆ‰yoruz.. 4 tez: ikisi de sinirlenmiˆ tir bu bordta mcphee: lose 2♣ 1 1♠.. 6 djneill: muller will mull this jack hedyg: only 1♠? mcphee: yes hedyg: lets see tez: 4 bitek partajˆ‰na super oyun.. 8 murat: bu elden gˆ¶rˆ…ntˆ…ler: http://img812.imageshack.us /i/s4s.mp4/ funtay: ancak 4 el acik analiz tez: oyun masada oynanˆ‰yor ˆ u anda internette deˆ il..yanda operator var..ismi genellikle kenan oluyor tez: o kiˆ i masada olan biteni bize aktarˆ‰yor hobakan: Kolata aˆ§ˆ‰klamalara en gˆ…zel aˆ§ˆ ‰klamayˆ‰ getirdi. Doˆ u ile Batˆ‰nˆ‰n ellerini deˆ iˆ tirirsek 11 lˆ¶ve alˆ‰nabiliyor basit ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © ¨ ¨ © © ¨ © - 10 - 9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR) ¨ © ˆ§e.. J.. A tez : biliyorlarki ayaklarˆ‰ zon oynayˆ‰p batacak mcphee: if he guesses to drop the hedyg: overtake and ♠? hedyg: hmmm.. 2 djneill: oof.. 5.. 7 atalok : batarsˆ‰n ˆ§ˆ‰karsˆ‰n o ayrˆ‰da deklerasyon saˆ§ma idi © © © © Board NS: EW: o 6 c 3N ¨ 5 this/total IMPs Onstein - NED 84 Angelini - ITA 10 70 E 6 920 W 6 490 5 990 ♠ K Q10 4 J632 ♣9 7 5 3 2 ♠ 62 N ♠A 8 3 84 A Q10 7 W E A K Q10 9 6 2 85 S ♣10 8 ♣AK Q 4 ♠J975 K95 J743 ♣J6 W: Fantoni W 1♠ 4♠ 4N 6 N: Drijver Open S: Brink N E p 1♣ p 2N X XX p 5 p p 1 6 5-4 0 5 12 7-6 7-8 12 8-7 E: Nunes S p p p p p ¨ ¨ #1 S::ª7,2,Q,A #2 E::¨5,3,A,§7 #3 W::§8,2,A,6 #4 E::¨8,7,T,©2 #5 W::¨K,©6,7,¨4 #6 W::¨Q,©3,T,¨J #7 W::¨2,ª4,3,5 #8 W::§T,5,K,J #9 E::§Q,©5,ª6,§3 #10 E::ª8,9,¨6,ªT #11 W::¨9,©J,§4,ªJ #12 W::©4,§9,©A,9 #13 E::©Q,K,8,ªK djneill: only hope here for E-W is that 4© goes down in other room and North lets them play it, an unlikely scenario but we’ll see niekbrink: EW can make slam on this hand..p..1 ♣ ¨ brgpro: will they reach 6 here? hedyg: Muller bid 4 in CR with the bd 4 hand hedyg : 1 ♣ 14+ nat or 15+ balanced..p..1 ♠ ! ¨ ..p..2N djneill: West chooses 1♠ (no major) rather than 2 (nat game force) since wants to FORCE east to declare this hand brgpro: 1♠ showed hedyg: 1♠= 0-9, no M brgpro: ok ¨ - 11 - ¨ 9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR) Walddk2: I would of course find 4 diamonds with North. I am very unlucky brgpro: now he has to bid 4 now djneill: 2NT = 19-20 hedyg: hey Roland :) Walddk2: Hi all niekbrink: Hi roland brgpro: i dont know their system but there has to be a way to show good hedyg: 2NT= 19+..p..4♠! brgpro: note that 6NT might be in trouble after a ♠ lead hedyg: 1NT would be 15-18 brgpro: aha, so they play 2 level transfers after 2NT hedyg: this looks like a quantitative 4NT xfer hedyg: XX= 1st rd cotrl.. ..r brgpro: that means after 2NT, 4♣= and 4 =♠, 4 /♠=♣ / , with slam interest hedyg: control even brgpro: yes, 12 top tricks in NT..p..4N!..p..5 ..p..6 Walddk2 : Could have been vital to let East declare 6 (NT is already there) but it does not matter as it is. 12 top tricks niekbrink : spec suggesting 7nt on a double squeeze..p..p djneill: 4N = turbo = even keycards (for ) hedyg: E is declaring..p Walddk2: Indeed he is niekbrink: souht needs to guard the heart, north the clubs, and who can keep spades? hedyg: to beat 13 tricks?..♠7..♠2..♠Q..♠A.. 5 Walddk2: Sorry, I don’t see any double squeeze.. 3 niekbrink: no communication i think.. A brgpro: without ♠ lead he might have..♣7..♣8.. ♣2..♣A..♣6.. 8.. 7.. T niekbrink: would be cool though... :) brgpro: double squeeze brgpro: now the A is knocked out hedyg: i know just how Drijver feels!.. 2.. K.. 6.. 7.. 4.. Q djneill: ok 4 came home, Onstein surges ahead more hedyg: bd 4 4 = in CR brgpro: he can bare ♠A in dummy to squeeze both NS, as long as he knows the position of KJ hedyg: that was 13 imps niekbrink: so, we started the Italians with 1 ahead, but the Dutch scored 25 imps on the first 4 board, leading by 24 ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ © niekbrink: Thanks Jack :) Walddk2: Yes, but with East as declarer only an impossible diamond lead will lead to that position. Club or heart 13 tricks automatically, spade 12 tricks.. 3.. T.. J.. 2..♠4..♠3..♠5..♣T..♣5.. ♣K..♣J..♣Q.. 5 Walddk2: and no squeeze..♠6..♣3..♠8..♠9.. 6..♠T.. 9 djneill: this is a showup squeeze, looks good, does nothing in this case.. J..♣4..♠J.. 4..♣9.. A.. 9.. Q.. K.. 8..♠K © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ © © © © © ¨ © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © ¨ ¨ © © ¨ © ¨ © - 12 - 9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR) Board NS: EW: o 6 c 3N 5 ¨ this/total IMPs Angelini - ITA 10 70 Onstein - NED 84 E 6 920 W 6 490 5 990 ♠ K Q10 4 J632 ♣9 7 5 3 2 ♠ 62 N ♠A 8 3 84 A Q10 7 W E A K Q10 9 6 2 85 S ♣10 8 ♣AK Q 4 ♠J975 K95 J743 ♣J6 W: De Wijs W © ¨ 2 3 3N ª N: Helness Closed S: Helgemo N E p 1♣ p 2♠ p 3♠ p p 1 6 5-4 0 5 kuvvetli bir iki takimdan biri tez: 7NT with double sqz vugraphzus: welcome and hi all..2♠! hedyg: 12-14 NT hedyg: even 4 4 4 1 hands qualify djneill: 2♣ = majors we think hedyg: we are so clever LOL hobakan: tutmuyorum kˆ¶rˆ… demek..p Gerben42: 1♣ strong 2 balanced 3NT me too? :) djneill: not a new convention, has been around for at least 50 years? fabsayc: ground hog day in November Walddk4 : There is a typo in North’s name, operator, Sylvan..3 ! vugraphzus: ok Walddk4: you reversed the L and Y Walddk4: And the Icelanders have an i not the Turkish y tez: 3nt fitini reddediyor murat: 2 = 10-12p 5+ 2celik1: iceride 6♣ denildi..p hedyg: as a matter of fact the CC confirms that djneill: before that they didn’t get these computer hands so they had to adjust :-) fabsayc : a special type called a compound squeeze fabsayc: i think however they will end in 6 henryb: Hello all fabsayc: actually on second look, the squeeze does not work, and welcome Henry bt: thx roland i will be here a while only..3♠! Walddk4: Sigurjonsson Ingimarsson Walddk4: Thanks jbgood: EBL page also infected i am told hedyg: lol mcphee: maybe redble shows 2-2 with minors vugraphzus: np sry about that ..p jbgood: Fantunes bid to 4 on 3 - so another leader... Walddk4: np..3N hobakan: 10-13 diyolardˆ‰ serhat: 6C olmaz pik cˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰rsa, sanirim..p tez: 4 transferi al yoksa ateˆ ederim demek bt: this is an ok game that does not make..p..p champ i: 3 nolu board 6 nt de durdular atalok: gitti bizim 16 champ i: gˆ¶ksu multy aˆ§tˆ‰ 1.den yusufb: nt oynadˆ‰lar giden 13 olcaktˆ‰ ¨ 12 7-6 7-8 12 8-7 E: Muller S p p p p #1 N:: K,,, tez: kuzey pas derdi..uˆ§ardˆ‰ ler champ i: angelinin aˆ§ˆ‰p 2 karoda kalˆ‰nan bir sistem yoktur herhalde champ i: maˆ§tan sonra yani djneill: not a success for the superaccept..p 2celik1: 4 boardu iceride 2♠ oynanmis..1♣! vugraphzus: ben siliyorum maˆ§ bitince:) Gerben42: someone heat up the dealer pls mcphee: I think he misplayed it hobakan: egale olmasˆ‰nˆ‰ umduˆ umuz elden de 5 kaybederek geri dˆ…ˆ tˆ…k bu devrede de...p hobakan: kenan da olmasa:) champ i: kenan sorarsada iyi ˆ eyler yazdlar de tez: http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph_archives /vugraph_archives.php buradanda kaˆ§ˆ‰rdˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰z yayˆ‰nlarˆ‰ izleyebilirsiniz funtay : rakip takima yenilen oyuncularimiza hicbir sey demeyiz hatta kutlariz jbgood: rsult page reported to be infected by virus!! 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Walddk4: Welcome to Lars Andersson..2 !..p © © © - 13 - tez: zorlu demek istemiˆ tim champ i: 6 h var cl doˆ ru empasa hobakan: 3 NT funtay : bu takim Dˆ…nyada olusabilecek en ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ 9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR) Gerben42: on a © lead you can play ¨ to J for your 9th trick jbgood: and they just bid to 4♠ on 4 fabsayc: wow..♠K hobakan: :) djneill: the spots in the majors will be useful mcphee: they sure are Board NS: EW: o 4♠ c 4♠ 6 6 this/total IMPs Onstein - NED 84 Angelini - ITA 70 N -1 50 N -1 50 9 ♠ A K J10 3 10 QJ6 7 8 K8 6 ♣A 5 2 ♠8 6 5 2 N ♠Q K543 10 7 2 W E A5 Q97 3 S ♣Q 9 4 ♣K J 7 6 3 ♠9 7 4 4 3 A98 5 J10 6 4 2 5 ♣10 8 7 420 W: Fantoni W p p p N: Drijver Open S: Brink N E p 1♠ p 4♠ p © § § © ª§ ¨ ª ¨ © ª ¨ E: Nunes S p 2♠ p ª ª § ª § ª § ª © ¨ ª ©¨ © ¨ #1 E:: 7,8,K,6 #2 W:: 2,A,Q,4 #3 N:: 2,3,T,Q #4 W:: 5,3, 6, 7 #5 S:: 8,4,A,7 #6 N:: 5,J, 9, 9 #7 S:: 9,3,Q,2 #8 N:: K, T, 2, 6 #9 N:: J, K, 4, 8 #10 N:: J, 3, A,4 #11 S:: J,5,8,Q #12 E:: 7,6,A,K #13 W:: 5, T, 9,T brgpro: some ask me how the squeeze works...well, after 5 rounds of trumps, N has to keep 8 cards, 4 ♣ 3 and 1♠, then we can squeeze S in the majors( kind of criss cross ruffing .....p brgpro: squeeze) hedyg: there was a position, but that was a bit DD..p djneill: I don’t think other room will miss that slam..p hedyg: even i would find it Walddk2: No, they may bid 7 brgpro: do u think they will bid this to 4♠? Walddk2: And if they do the lead is interesting djneill: they better not bid 7 but then if they get no ♠ lead you saying it makes :-) djneill: I encourage everyone to play through © © - 14 - 9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR) that movie if it happens niekbrink: 4 spades seems pretty high on this hand hedyg: not sure we are connected anymore..1♠ ..p..2♠..p..4♠..p..p..p.. 7.. 8.. K.. 6 vugraphzur: we are still waiting Fantoni for trick 2 Walddk2: In theory, this is on a diamond guess but there is more to it than that Walddk2: Declarer doesn’t know about spades hedyg: all ok now hedyg: high lead from even with honour or odd without djneill: ok no slam other room, wow hedyg: but looking at 345 , is the 7 high?..♠2 Walddk2: Now it’s just the D guess..♠A..♠Q..♠ 4..♣2..♣3..♣T..♣Q niekbrink: at least the set is very exciting so far.. ♠5 © © © © © Board NS: EW: o 4♠ c 4♠ 6 6 this/total IMPs Angelini - ITA 70 Onstein - NED 84 N -1 50 N -1 50 9 ♠ A K J10 3 10 QJ6 7 8 K8 6 ♣A 5 2 ♠8 6 5 2 N ♠Q K543 10 7 2 W E A5 Q97 3 S ♣Q 9 4 ♣K J 7 6 3 ♠9 7 4 4 3 A98 5 J10 6 4 2 5 ♣10 8 7 420 W: De Wijs W p p p N: Helness Closed S: Helgemo N E p p 1♠ 4♠ p § § ª § ¨ © E: Muller S p 2♠ p § ¨ ª #1 E:: 3,8,Q,5 #2 W:: 9,A,6,T #3 N:: 2,J, 7, 4 #4 S:: 2,5,K,3 #5 N:: 8,7,T,A #6 W:: 6,J,Q,4 #7 E:: 7,8,K,6 tez: maˆ§ bi anda umutsuz hale geldi..♠3..♣6..♠ 7..♣8..♣4..♣A..♣7..♣5..♣J..♠9..♣9.. 9.. 3.. Q.. 2..♠K.. T.. 2..♠6..♠J..♣K.. 4..♠8.. J.. 3.. A.. 4.. J.. 5.. 8.. Q.. 7.. 6.. A.. K.. 5..♠T.. 9.. T serhat: evet, malesef. aslˆ‰nda burda 6h dememeleri bir sans idi. yine 1-4 trefe boyun egildi.. fabsayc: major system glitch here djneill: all pushes so far..p atalok: yine siftah lazˆ‰m bize ..p marlowepi: specs asking about this auction. i dont have system notes, both looks like ordinary opener, 2C either inverted minor that does not deny a 4 card major or else a general GF. natural ... marlowepi : rebid, shortness 3S, 4H perhaps control or maybe KC. all guesses, likely wrong funtay: daha cok bord var umutsuz olmak iˆ§in erken..p © © © © © ¨ ¨ © ¨ © © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ - 15 - 9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR) hobakan : bu turnuvayˆ‰ 1 kere Almanya kazandˆ‰. gerisini italyan takˆ‰mlarˆ‰ kazandˆ ‰ Gerben42: 1 could be short Walddk4: Welcome to Drew Casen..1♠ drewsky: morning all bt: hi drew..p vugraphzus: welcome atalok: 1 imp alalˆ‰m once funtay: 9 seneden beri yapiliyor bu turnuva djneill: what should North do? E-W could be weak or strong and only they know mcphee: 2 is to play i guess so do we dble as N? djneill: that looks best, but then what to bid over 2♠ or 3 mcphee: 2 was short 3 suited hedyg: 11-15, short bt: missing 7 was worth 12 imps for ns, bridge is an easy game lol..2♠ drewsky: Here, 1 showed 4+ hearts, and 2 was a simple raise to 2 bt : and i the system structure i think west is supposed to pass bt: now mcphee: i suppose they have leb..p mcphee: oh maybe not djneill: lhosnebel hedyg: wanting to bid 3NT? djneill: I think the Bridz (World) magazines are calling us for a problem submission djneill: and IMP :-) hedyg: lol hedyg: Jan are you taking notes? vugraphzus: Nunes thinks tez: her iki masadada 2nt oynanˆ‰yor..4♠..p Gerben42: Fantoni betweeen pass and 3♣, or even 2♠ hoping for 4-3 fit Gerben42: at least 2 isnt game Gerben42: at this vuln. passing is reasonable Gerben42: 2♠ 2 1 1 = 200 Gerben42: 1♣ i mean sarkar_suk: deal no 4 onstein bid 6h on open room Gerben42: credit Helgemo Helness for putting on pressure with 1♠ 3♠ Gerben42: Fantoni still torn between his options Gerben42: the longer he thinks the more likely he will try 2♠ I guess Gerben42: the basic question is would he double 1 with something like 4513 funtay: 3nt iˆ§in hersey uygun dagilmiˆ ..p ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © ¨ © ¨ ¨ © © champ i: evet tez: doˆ u batˆ‰nˆ‰n ellerini deˆ iˆ tirsek 1 nt olmaz..ˆ imdi 4 nt olacak 2celik1: belki de 5 tez: herˆ ey yerli yerinde tez: italyan takˆ‰mˆ‰nda 3 norveˆ§li oyuncu var hedyg: great selfcontrol! champ i: kontur..p jbgood: Fantunes also bid to 6 on the previous one henryb: My ditch is not great, so if you want to make comments to me, English is better henryb: dutch marlowepi : guessing NS headed for doomed game..♣3 djneill: well if 3 indeed is weak, then 9 fast tricks on a lead require perfection murat: http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions/ European_championships/TeamChampionships.asp? qmenuid=19..♣8 mcphee: well this lead choice will save a trick I think..♣Q bt: now east just has to guess or , does that make it a 75% game?..♣5 atalok : neden konturlamadˆ‰ nezih en fazla yapar ortagˆ‰ zonda aˆ§mˆ‰ˆ Gerben42: 2♠ is just too speculative, 3♣ ditto, and -180 isnt the end of the world, so he takes his chances here Gerben42: on a good day pd has 3424 and opps have no fit mcphee: W was a little pushy bidding 3 , even tho he may find 4 card support mcphee: nice switch hedyg: yes but Muller did not promise more than 3 s mcphee: right hedyg: he can have any 5 4 1 3 hand hedyg: as well as 4 4 1 4 fabsayc: looks like this will be on diamond guess fabsayc: my turkish is worse than my Dutch henryb: does he have clues? perhaps: will know East started with stiff spade amd ♣KJ. Perhaps with A also would have made a to double of 1 © ¨ © ¨ © © ♠ ¨ djneill: ok swing to Onstein after Angelini on previous board got to 3♠ after opening 1♠ on the 9 HCP..♣9..♣A..♣6 champ i: irde bu kadar geriyken ..♣T atalok : boyle ˆ§eyler onemlidir veriri 800 u stress baˆ lar sonra ne yapacak - 16 - 9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR) atalok: bari korlerden sonra sp donselerde ˆ§ok finesse batˆ‰rsak yine 12 imp alˆ‰rˆ‰z champ i: zonda 2 karo aˆ§ˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ ken x suz ge ˆ§mesi dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…lemez tez: bizimkiler 4 kontrlu oynuyor atalok: sp donerlerse fazla degisiklik olmaz tez: sayˆ‰ vereceˆ iz yari atalok: tez hoca? champ i: 2 iˆ§eri x lu 300 fabsayc: yes twice past hand is a slight clue, but also kind of works if you apply to west also drewsky: I believe this hand is cold for 4 if declarer NEVER touches hearts ..♣2 Gerben42: i hear Helness is playing 3 x even atalok: hayˆ‰rlˆ‰ haber yokmu hiˆ§?..♣J tez: iki masayˆ‰da seyrediyorum.ne yapayˆ‰ m..yalan haber mi? atalok: bursa 0 trabzon 2 soranlara tez: izmirde vugraf salonundayˆ‰m fabsayc: he first has to play a top spade bt: good idea..♠7..♣4 Walddk4: Welcome to Wayne Stuart.. 2 wstuart: Hi all. Walddk4: http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions /10Izmir/Results.htm for results and running scores bt: ♣A ♣K and ♣ ruff to start with is normal bt: and then he sees the drew line, lol drewsky: South’s failure to shift to s marks him with the queen tez: 2 iˆ§eri.. 5 2celik1: Tezcan Hocanin dedigi gibi oldu.. K tez: hepsi mecburi hamle mcphee: so 1 in the glue Gerben42: so could be 7 imps to Onstein.. 3 sarkar_suk: very important & much needed 7 imp gain for onstein on tha deal Gerben42: still a long way Gerben42: 500 confirmed from other room Gerben42: he has entry problems Gerben42: he would like to play a 4th ♠ but then cannot get ♣K in henryb: yes, but West had a balanced 7 or 9 count and spade length. tez: as alˆ‰p oynarsa.. 8.. 7 fabsayc: helness saw something jbgood: same contract open room.. T.. A..♠6 fabsayc : or maybe an extra chance to set up diamonds this way to avoid a heart loser when king onside henryb: I think perhaps he should have cashed the ♠A first. Now his best plsy in trumps is the henryb: stiff small is four times as likely as stiff ¨ ¨ © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ - 17 - © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ queen fabsayc: does the spade lead change anything henryb: no tez: belki 1 imp kurtarˆ‰rˆ‰z..♠J funtay: bu turnuvada transfer serbest:)..♠Q drewsky: Devils coup variation coming up here.. ♠4 henryb: sorry. the spade changes nothing, and the score is cumulative tez: ♠ 10 oynayacak.. 7.. 8 hobakan: kontursuz gitmeseydi iyiydi ama her 2 oyuncumuz da dbl diyecek gˆ…ˆ§ gˆ¶remedi ellerinde.. K mcphee: and even that is a bit lucky I think drewsky: now he will probably go down.. 6 bt: now east will get a count of the hand bt: unfortunately © © © © 9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR) Board NS: EW: o 4♠ c 7 7 this/total IMPs Onstein - NED Angelini - ITA S 4 620 5 ♠ K10 3 10 6 5 10 AK 9 7 4 2 10 ♣ A K10 ♠A 5 2 N ♠ 864 542 A K Q10 9 8 7 W E J85 Q6 S ♣J843 ♣9 ♠Q J 9 7 8 3 J3 8 10 3 3 ♣Q 7 6 5 2 3 -500 W: Fantoni W p p p N: Drijver Open S: Brink N E ¨ 1 X p ©2,6,Q,3 ª3,4,Q,A ©A,J,4,ªK ª9,,, #1 W:: #3 N:: #5 E:: #7 S:: E: Nunes © 4 p p S p p 4♠ § § ª § ª exciting hedyg: :) niekbrink: that was slightly unlucky Walddk2: I dare say Walddk2: 5 boards to go..p..p hedyg: Helness in 4♠ on a ♣ lead..1 ..4 Walddk2: He’ll have the same guess eventually..p..p.. ¨ © Walddk2: Could be 84-82 soon niekbrink: this is another tough board..4♠..p niekbrink: 3-3 spade split is useful in 4 spades. but the 4-1 club break isn’t helpful..p..p brgpro: 4♠ makes niekbrink: what’s the best defense?.. 2 niekbrink: second round of hearts?.. 6 hedyg: cant they beat this by playing 2 s now © and then duck 1 ♠, take 2nd and play another niekbrink: then duck the ace of spades once ¨ ©? ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © ¨ ¨ © #2 E:: 9,6,3,T #4 W:: 8,K, 6, 5 #6 N:: T,8,J,2 © © break in the minors..♣9 hedyg: not anymore..♣6 brgpro: well, after seeing ♠ 3-3, he will cash b4 ♣, if 4-1 then ♣ must be 3-2 brgpro : when E shows up with 2 , then he knows his 7-3-2-1 distribution, so he can safely cash 1 more ♣( make sure) then give W a , knowing he has no more hedyg: with Niek’s defense he cannot ruff a and a and pull trumps niekbrink: sorry, lost connection..♣3..♣T brgpro : he doesnt have to ruff a , just pull yrumps and give W a trick..♠3 hedyg: fasten seatbelt..♠4..♠Q brgpro: now he is safe i think Walddk2: Helness going down in 4♠ in a different way on board 6 Walddk2: Losing to ♠Q niekbrink : so both declarers lost a queen to east.... hedyg: after K was drawing A♠ not safe? brgpro: niek, say defence starts with 2 , u ruff and play trumps, W will duck one, takes 2nd and play 3rd , u ruff and play last trump. now knowing E is 7-3 in the majors. all u have to ... brgpro: do is to cash Ak, if they are 4-1 then E must have 2♣, when E shows up with 2 , u just cash ♣A, seeing 1♣ by E, u can see all 13 cards now. then u safely duck a to make ... brgpro: this brgpro: nobody has any trumps niekbrink: I see niekbrink: you are right jack niekbrink : i missed that there were no more hearts with west brgpro: but now it is much easier for declarer brgpro: he can even ruff a to set up the suit..♠ A..♣8..♣K..♠6..♣5.. A.. J.. 4 brgpro: well, if E is 2-1 in the black suits, i dont think he can make, so just draw trumps.....♠K niekbrink: i think he is considering what to do if east ruffed from 2 small spades brgpro: he cant come back to hand hedyg: then he just goes down niekbrink: as Jack pointed out, no way to make then... so.... brgpro: missing ♠8xx by W? no way to make this!..♠T..♠8 ¨ djneill: both sides are contributing to keep it ¨..p © © hedyg: sry Niek :).. Q.. 3 niekbrink : seems like south has to guess the © ¨ ¨ ¨ ¨ © © © - 18 - 9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR) - 19 -
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Gerben42: behave so no problem here.. 3..
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