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9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 3_4 Izmir TUR)
9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 3_4 Izmir TUR)
Board
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2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Onstein - NED
vs
Angelini - ITA
Onstein - NED Angelini - ITA Angelini - ITA Onstein - NED
N Drijver E Angelini N Nunes E Muller
S Brink W Brogeland S Fantoni W De Wijs
Contract By M D N-S E-W Contract By M D N-S E-W
3N E 3
400 3N E 3
400
4♠ W 4
420 4♠ W 4
420
3N S 5
460
3N S 5
460
1N E
1 100
3♥ E
1 100
3♠ E
2 100
2♥ E 2
110
3♣ W
2 200
3♥ W
1 100
3♦ S 6
170
2♥x E
2 500
2♠ S 5
200
4♠ S 4
420
5♠ W 5
650 4♠ W 5
650
2♥ N 3
140
2♥ N 3
140
3♠ S 3
140
5♦ E
1 50
4♥ E
2 100
IMPs
5 3 - 8
- 6
3 11 14
IMPs
Onstein - NED Angelini - ITA
This segment
11
14
Penalty
0
0
Carryover
48
46
total
59
60
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References: BridgeBase online. Edited by M.Sugino
9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 3_4 Izmir TUR)
Board
NS:
EW:
o 3N
c 3N
1
1
this/total IMPs
Onstein - NED
48
Angelini - ITA
46
E 3
400
E 3
400
3
♠Q J 9 4
4
875
3
4
A6
4
♣Q 9 5 4
♠ K10 3
N ♠A 8 7 6
Q10 4
AJ3
W E
QJ3
K872
S
♣ K10 8 7
♣A J
♠5 2
10
9
K962
9
10 9 5 4
9
♣6 3 2
9
430
W: Brogeland
W
¨
2
3N
©
¨
©
¨
ª
ª
N: Drijver
Open
S: Brink
N
E
p
1♣
p
2N
p
p
#1 S:: 2,Q,8,3
#3 E:: 2,4,J,A
#5 S:: 6,T,5,A
#7 E:: 7,5,Q,6
#9 E:: 6,2,K,9
#11 W:: 3,J,A,5
names (as in Weismuller who played Tarzan in
old movies) .. Q.. 8.. 3
sybarra: I do not see anything extra here do you?
..♣7..♣4..♣J..♣6.. 2.. 4.. J.. A.. 7.. J..
K.. 4.. 6.. T.. 5.. A..♣A..♣3..♣8..♣5..
7.. 5.. Q.. 6.. 3
brgpro: N is squeezed in the blacks..♠4.. K..
9..♠6..♠2
brgpro: he shd play ♠10 from dummy, not the K
to make 10..♠K..♠9..♣K..♣9.. 8..♣2..♠3..♠J
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E: Angelini
S
p
p
p
§
©
§
¨ ª ¨
§ ¨ §
ª
#2 W:: 7,4,J,6
#4 N:: 7,J,K,4
#6 E:: A,3,8,5
#8 W:: 3, 4, K,9
#10 W:: K,9, 8, 2
#12 E:: 7,,,
bobdrijver: They should have started already....♣
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bobdrijver: ok...there we go
sybarra: this looks pretty std. stuff ..p..1♣!..16+
any
bobdrijver: other table is Wijsmuller against
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fantunes..p..2 !..8-12 bal
sybarra: and they play an interesting system (
Wijsmuller) ..p..2N..p..3N..p..p
sybarra: as does funtunes btw..p
bobdrijver : unfortunately i don’t know a lot
about strong club auctions.. 2
sybarra: the Wijsmuller system is called Tarzan
club
brgpro: easy 9 or 10...so no accident will happen.
let’s have a coffee
sybarra: named after the combination of their
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9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 3_4 Izmir TUR)
Board
NS:
EW:
o 3N
c 3N
1
1
this/total IMPs
Angelini - ITA
46
Onstein - NED
48
E 3
400
E 3
400
3
♠Q J 9 4
4
875
3
4
A6
4
♣Q 9 5 4
♠ K10 3
N ♠A 8 7 6
Q10 4
AJ3
W E
QJ3
K872
S
♣ K10 8 7
♣A J
♠5 2
10
9
K962
9
10 9 5 4
9
♣6 3 2
9
430
W: De Wijs
W
¨
2
3N
N: Nunes
Closed
S: Fantoni
N
E
p
1♣
p
2N
p
p
©
©
§
ª
§ ª §
¨
¨ ª
E: Muller
S
p
p
p
¨
©
§
ª
§ ª ©
¨ ª ¨
#1 S:: 6,4,8,J
#2 E:: 2,4,J,A
#3 N:: 7,3,K,T
#4 S:: 9,Q,5,A
#5 E:: A,2,7,4
#6 E:: J,3,8,Q
#7 N:: Q,A,5,3
#8 E:: 8,2,K,4
#9 W:: K,5, 6, 6 #10 W:: T,9, 7, 2
#11 W:: Q,6,7,5
#12 W:: 3, 9, K,9
#13 E:: 8,T, T,J
vugraphzus: hi all..♠A..♠5..♠7
vugraphzus: hello everyone
hedyg: good afternoon and welcome back to the
final of the 9th European Champions Cup..p..1♣!
..p
vugraphzus: hello everyone..2 !
Gerben42: good morning! EW play relay precision..p
vugraphzus: Good morning
Gerben42: so 3 shows a positive with 2254
h bertens: good afternoon all..2N
jbgood: hi Huub and all..p..3N
hedyg: this is segment 3/4, 12 bds /segment
vugraphzus: herkese merhaba..p
yusufb: herkese merhaba..p
Gerben42: good breaks let this make
Gerben42: +1 even
Gerben42: i guess I would play ♣Q as it develops
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a 2nd ♣ trick to discard ♠ on
jbgood: if N ponders about bidding 4 - he sh
have made the bid at once - 5 minor laydown
EW..p
hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/
documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostendeuropean/OpenTeams/netherlands/muller-dewijs.pdf..
6
hedyg : NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/
documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil
/bermudabowl/italy/fantoni-nunes.pdf
2celik1: selamlar.. 4
yusufb: 12 bordluk 4 devrenin 2 devresindeyiz
funtay: slm Kenan,Yusuf ve Salim
yusufb: slmmm.. 8.. J.. 2
jbgood: sh be a good result for Angelini - one
down
2celik1: hosgeldin Tayfun.. 4
vugraphzus: slm hoˆ geldin Tayfun abi
champ i: selamlar.. J
funtay: slm
champ i: iyi yerde durdular.. A
murat: Ege Palas’dan yeniden selamlar
jbgood: mest sannsynlig 3
jbgood: sry
atalok: slmlar ˆ§ok fark yemiˆ iz hadin bi el atalˆ
‰mda kapatalˆ‰m biraz
jbgood: 2 down if he takes the spade finesse doubt he does that.. 7.. 3
imp_jan: Morning folks.. K
imp_jan: just met Maurizio di Sacco here at the
venue.. T
Gerben42: good morning Jan.. 9.. Q
imp_jan: he is desperate
imp_jan: Muller and Fantoni at the same table..
5
Gerben42: :)
hedyg: live webcam from the OR: http://www.ustream.tv
/channel/champions-cup-2010.. A
champ i: sˆ…lo takˆ‰mˆ‰ 2. devre yalnˆ‰z bˆ
‰rakmasa iyidi..♣A
atalok: bu elden muhtemel 4 imp alˆ‰rˆ‰z
tez: selamlar:)
atalok: slm tez..♣2..♣7
champ i: slm tez..♣4..♣J
murat: selam Tez..♣3
hedyg: our operator is Kenan, hello!..♣8
murat: ˆ imdi ˆ§ektim: http://img241.imageshack.us
/i/53i.mp4/..♣Q..♠Q..♠A
murat: ara ara video ˆ§ekip gˆ¶ndermeye devam
edeceˆ im
champ i: angelini nin karoyu aˆ§masˆ‰ karoda 3
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yaptˆ‰rdˆ‰..♠5..♠3..♠8..♠2..♠K..♠4..♣K..
♣5..♠6..♣6..♣T..♣9..♠7.. 2
hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBOTV. Watch all vugraph rooms at the same time,
even while playing or in the lobby. No download
needed. Some need Flash Player , some don’t. ...
hedyg: Open one browser window per table
vugraphzus: Hello Hedy.. Q.. 6.. 7.. 5..
3..♠9.. K.. 9.. 8.. T..♠T..♠J
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Board
NS:
EW:
o 4♠
c 4♠
2
2
this/total IMPs
Onstein - NED
48
Angelini - ITA
46
W 4
420
W 4
420
3
♠ A10 5
3
Q76
6
J862
3
7
♣Q 8 4
♠9 7 6 2
N ♠Q J 4 3
A32
J10 9
W E
A4
K Q10 9 3
S
♣A 5 3 2
♣K
♠K 8
9
10
K854
7
75
9
♣ J10 9 7 6
6
420
W: Brogeland
W
1♠
4♠
N: Drijver
Open
S: Brink
N
E
1
p
2♠
p
p
¨6,3,7,A
§8,K,J,3
©K,A,7,9
¨K,5,4,2
#1 N::
#3 N::
#5 S::
#7 E::
E: Angelini
S
p
p
p
¨
ª2,A,3,8
ªQ,K,6,5
ª7,T,J,©4
¨Q,©5,§2,¨8
#2 W::
#4 E::
#6 W::
#8 E::
sybarra: I can only drink about so much coffee........1
¨!..p..1♠..p..2♠..p..4♠..p..p..p
sybarra : this looks like another one of those
hands
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sybarra: might be an up trick at stake here.. 6
sybarra: need to get hts going after this win (I
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think) .. 3.. 7.. A..♠2
bobdrijver: i don’t know if brink actually played
the 7, but seems like it is 3 or 1 so Bas will
perhaps take it to prevend the entry..♠A..♠3..♠
8..♣8..♣K..♣J..♣3..♠Q..♠K..♠6..♠5
bobdrijver: playing south for club A and heart
A...
bobdrijver: and west for K K A J
sybarra: Nunes led a ht
brgpro: nothing exciting has happened so far..
K.. A.. 7.. 9..♠7..♠T..♠J.. 4.. K.. 5..
4.. 2
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9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 3_4 Izmir TUR)
Board
NS:
EW:
o 4♠
c 4♠
2
2
this/total IMPs
Angelini - ITA
46
Onstein - NED
48
W 4
420
W 4
420
3
♠ A10 5
3
Q76
6
J862
3
7
♣Q 8 4
♠9 7 6 2
N ♠Q J 4 3
A32
J10 9
W E
A4
K Q10 9 3
S
♣A 5 3 2
♣K
♠K 8
9
10
K854
7
75
9
♣ J10 9 7 6
6
420
W: De Wijs
W
1♠
4♠
©
©
¨
N: Nunes
Closed
S: Fantoni
N
E
1
p
2♠
p
p
¨
E: Muller
S
p
p
p
ª
©
ª
vugraphzus: bu boardla ilgili..¨Q..©5..♣2..¨8
#1 N:: 6,9,K,A
#3 S:: 5,3,Q,T
#5 E:: 3,5,A,2
#2 W:: 2,5,Q,K
#4 N:: 7,J,4,2
#6 W:: 6,T,J,8
hobakan: yani biz oldu tamam diyelim.. olursa
olur olmazsa yenisine bakarˆ‰z:)
atalok: rakibin biri el aˆ§mˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰r son 2 elde
atalok: digeride ˆ§akmˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰r
atalok: son 3 veya
murat: italyanlar ˆ u an biraz masayˆ‰ gekiyor
murat: geriyor
murat : bizimkilerin konvansiyon kartˆ‰nda
yeterli aˆ§ˆ‰klama yok
hobakan : eˆ er battˆ‰ yazˆ‰ldˆ‰ysa neyin
gerginliˆ i anlayamadˆ‰m
murat: ataˆ ˆ‰ deˆ iˆ tirmek istiyorlar
atalok: fantoni ben karo ˆ§ˆ‰kmazdˆ‰m der
hemen
hobakan: demek kaˆ ˆ‰t tam olsa iyicene cˆ‰
ngar ˆ§ˆ‰kacakmˆ‰ˆ :)
vahaboglu: hakem avantaja bˆ‰rakmadˆ‰ mˆ
‰
murat: ˆ imdi 4piki yapmˆ‰ˆ lardˆ‰ diye garip
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bir ˆ ikayette bulunuyorlar
murat: masaya Rahmi geldi :)
hobakan: hakkaten garip
murat: Salvo’nun 3♣’si kˆ¶rler demekmiˆ
yakop: zaten atak deˆ iˆ se de batmaz kart ne cˆ‰
karsa cˆ‰ksˆ‰n
hobakan: aaaa ˆ¶le mi ismail? hiˆ§ bakmadˆ‰k
biz ona
hobakan: yani ben ..:)
tez: selamlar
tez: iyi akˆ amlar
imp_jan: bound to be ultra slow session
Gerben42: maybe it will be easy hands
imp_jan: anyhow
murat: ˆ zmir’den herkese gˆ…naydˆ‰n..1 !
timve: toch lijkt he 7 impen voor Angelini eerste
spel
2celik1: potansiyel 2 imp gelebilir Izmir Buyuksehir
Takimina..p
yusufb: selam tezcan hoˆ geldin
hobakan: gˆ…naydˆ‰nnnn efem:):):)..1♠
arigun: herkese gunaydin
champ i: yeni kadro deˆ iˆ kliˆ i var takˆ‰mda
jbgood: strong club
champ i: slm tez hoˆ geldin..p
atalok: gnydˆ‰nn..2♠
imp_jan: check for great stories, bulletins, hands,
pics
hobakan: sˆ…leyman abi de gelmiˆ valla saˆ
olsun:):)..p
murat: Salvo’nun 20, Fantoni’nin 10cm uzaˆ ˆ‰
ndayˆ‰m :)
yusufb: gˆ…naydˆ‰nn herkese
vugraphzus: Gˆ…naydˆ‰n herkese
hobakan: sabahˆ‰n bu saaatinde:)
hedyg: 1 = 11-15 unbalanced
jbgood: 2♣ showing
and a pos hand..4♠
arigun: tarafmiyiz murat :)..p
yusufb: takˆ‰mˆ‰mˆ‰za baˆ arˆ‰lar
murat: asla :)
phantoma: anlasamadilar galiba
murat: 1♣’i kuvvetli oynuyorlar
tez: dolayˆ‰sˆ‰yla ˆ lem gˆ¶rmeyen ellerle 4
majˆ¶rˆ… gˆ¶nderiyorlar umut varsa
atalok: 5 imp geldi sonra gerisini bekliyozz
atalok: elden alˆ‰p karo oynuyacak
Gerben42: at least short bidding again
hobakan: hg ˆ ampi:)
hobakan: takˆ‰mˆ‰mˆ‰za bol ˆ ans... sekans
atladˆ‰k sanˆ‰rˆ‰m..p
murat: mixed raise sandˆ‰m dedi Kubaˆ§
hobakan: ama kaˆ ˆ‰tlar olsun diye gelmiˆ
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arigun:
atagindan sonra cok love kurtarir
h bertens: looks like 4ha down 1
2celik1: selam Tezcan hosgeldin..p
imp_jan: http://www.eurobridge.org/index2.html
and www.bridgetopics.com
Gerben42: can discard 2♠ on ♣ even on a
lead so this shouldnt be TOO long
tez: batˆ‰yor bakalˆ‰m nolacak.. 6
mcphee: hi
hedyg: hi Bob :)
jbgood: a kib points out that if N had bid 4
directly on the previous one, W might have bid
4NT and EW bid the minor suit game.. 9.. K
tez: izmirdeyim.kulupte bugun seminer vardˆ‰
..seminer yerine vugraf seyrediyorlarmˆ‰ˆ
..onlara el sallˆ‰yorum:).. A..♠2
atalok: cl ruayˆ‰ at nezihh
mcphee: so it seems 10 tricks are there
murat: Fantoni bayaˆ ˆ‰ bi gerildi..♠5
tez:
asˆ‰ alˆ‰p almamasˆ‰ farketmiyor
jbgood: it is winnable now - but not in practice I
think..♠Q..♠K
h bertens: even if he has the handrecords it will
take him some time
yusufb: C A cizebilir salvo.. 5
yusufb: egrisi dogrusuna geldi:).. 3
jbgood: take in dummy, club, take the heart lead
with ace, unblock spades, ruff a club, throw
diamonds on spade !9
atalok: 3 cl neymiˆ ?.. Q
arigun: 10 love olacak galiba.. T.. 7
funtay: slm Tez
tez:
ˆ§aktˆ‰rmasˆ‰ iyi deˆ ildi
tez: bu en iyi defans
atalok: muhtemel battˆ‰
tez: havaya ˆ§akmak zorunda kalacaktˆ‰ alˆ‰cˆ
‰ kozla
murat: kˆ¶rˆ… ˆ§aktˆ‰rmaya giderken batacak
sanki ˆ imdi
atalok: ˆ efim yaparsa 12 alˆ‰rˆ‰z
jbgood: Q9
tez: ˆ efim yapamaz yaptˆ‰rˆ‰rlarsa ancak:)..
J
atalok: belki sp ruya gider d.. 4
funtay: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/championscup-2010 canli izlemek iˆ§in.. 2
Gerben42: claim time
sarkar_suk: yes
hedyg: H&H still sitting out..
champ i: ˆ§izdi asˆ‰.. 3.. 5.. A
marlowepi: there ws a double dummy line here
that makes, but no reason for Boye to find it
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atalok: kore ˆ§akmazsa batar yine.. 2..♠6..♠T
atalok: yok yaptˆ‰ˆ‰
tez: ˆ§akmaz ˆ§akar mˆ‰ hiˆ§.
jbgood: but as I said - not in practice
jbgood: very double dummy
hobakan: oldu da bitti maˆ allah:):)..♠J
tez: ˆ§akmayˆ‰nca batacak
funtay: herkese iyi aksamlar
champ i: hoˆ geldin tayfun
tez: hoˆ geldiniz:)
atalok: ˆ§akmaa..♠8
atalok: okii battˆ‰
tez: ˆ…ste ˆ§akˆ‰p ♣ yada kozla ˆ§ˆ‰kar sonra
atalok: bizim tunga oguˆ un norveˆ§ versiyonudur
brogeland
tez: diˆ er masadada battˆ‰ 4♠
mcphee: ok that willbe push
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9th European Champions’ Cup(Final 3_4 Izmir TUR)
Board
NS:
EW:
o 3N
c 3N
3
3
this/total IMPs
Onstein - NED
48
Angelini - ITA
46
S 5
460
S 5
460
♠A 8 7 2
984
KJ
♣A J 6 4
♠ J10 9
N ♠5 4 3
Q J10 3
7652
W E
987
A42
S
♣Q 7 2
♣K 9 5
♠K Q 6
AK
Q10 6 5 3
♣10 8 3
460
W: Brogeland
W
p
p
p
N: Drijver
Open
S: Brink
N
E
©Q,4,5,K
©6,A,3,8
ª2,3,K,T
¨T,ª9,§6,©2
#1 W::
#3 E::
#5 N::
#7 S::
p
p
1♠
3N
#2 S::
#4 S::
#6 S::
#8 S::
11
11
9
11
10
2
2
4
2
3
E: Angelini
3
/channel/champions-cup-2010
sybarra: another "exciting" hand (NOT)
sybarra: however the leaders probably fine with
this
sybarra: thx Murat :)..1 ..p
bobdrijver: well maybe if they were ahead by
30... :)..1♠..p..1N!..5!d 13-16..p..3N..p..p..p
sybarra: understand .. Q.. 4.. 5.. K.. 3
sybarra: the streaming video is amazing .....can
see them playing the cards.. 8.. K.. A.. 6..
A.. 3.. 8.. 5.. 7.. J.. 4..♠2..♠3
MolvaM: well u were looking for excitement :)..
♠K..♠T.. Q.. 9..♣4.. 2.. T..♠9..♣6.. 2
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this/total IMPs
Angelini - ITA
46
Onstein - NED
48
S 5
460
S 5
460
460
W: De Wijs
W
¨
¨3,8,K,A
¨5,7,J,4
¨Q,9,§4,¨2
¨6,ªJ,©9,ª4
3
♠A 8 7 2
984
KJ
♣A J 6 4
♠ J10 9
N ♠5 4 3
Q J10 3
7652
W E
987
A42
S
♣Q 7 2
♣K 9 5
♠K Q 6
AK
Q10 6 5 3
♣10 8 3
S
1
1N
p
sybarra: this table just negotiated it differently
brgpro: another coffee hand?
MolvaM: live from the table http://www.ustream.tv
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Board
NS:
EW:
o 3N
c 3N
p
p
p
N: Nunes
Closed
S: Fantoni
N
E
2♣
3N
p
p
11
11
9
11
10
2
2
4
2
3
E: Muller
S
1N
2
p
¨
©Q,4,7,K
#2 S::¨3,9,K,A
©2,A,3,8
#4 S::¨5,7,J,2
ª2,5,K,J
#6 S::¨Q,8,§4,¨4
¨T,ªT,§6,5 #8 S::¨6,§7,©9,ª4
ªQ,9,7,3
yusufb: aslˆ‰nda nezih yavaˆ ve dikkatli oynar
ˆ asˆ‰rdˆ‰m..¨6..♠J..©9..♠4
#1 W::
#3 E::
#5 N::
#7 S::
#9 S::
murat: masada bi konuˆ ma geˆ§iyor ˆ u an
murat: direktˆ¶r ˆ§aˆ rˆ‰ldˆ‰
hobakan: ufak bir noktaya aˆ§ˆ‰klˆ‰k getireyim
kendi adˆ‰ma:)
hobakan: burada yaptˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰mˆ‰z ˆ ey yorum
ama iˆ§erisinde taraftarlˆ‰k da var:)
murat: http://img687.imageshack.us/i/img00045201011131625.jpg
/
Gerben42: this probably wont swing a lot either
marlowepi: after D ace in dummy, lead club.
then heart ace and spade king. later can throw
both diamonds on spades after club ruff in dummy.
W ruffs with ntural trump trick and E doesnt get
...
marlowepi: his ruff
hedyg: yes
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hedyg: 1 or 1NT?
hobakan: ama tˆ…m bunlar 4 pik TAM durumunda
tartˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰lmasˆ‰ gereken hususlar idi..1N!
2celik1: wd Salvador Assael
marlowepi: oh, sorry just arrived didnt know
anyone had talked about the hand..p
h bertens: Not so easy for ew to bid there game
after this start
hedyg: 12-14 NT
tez: ♣ ataˆ ˆ‰ bulunabilecek mi?..2♣..p
tez: her masada 6♠ oynanacak..2
Gerben42: 2♣ = 11-15 with ♣
atalok: 7 nt gelinirmi?..p
tez: 3nt ye geleceˆ iz
hobakan: normal atak
Dam
tez: gˆ…neyin eliyle aˆ§ˆ‰lmazsa kuzey oynayacak.o
zaman kabak
hobakan: bir ˆ ekilde Bˆ…lent mˆ…dahil olmalˆ
‰ :)
atalok: nafiz abilerde oynar ama kuzeyden
yusufb: bence gelinir..3N
yakop: 7 karonun ˆ ansˆ‰ cok yˆ…ksek 7 nt de
oluyo bu daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰mla
hobakan: gelinir dicez tabi..
yusufb: 7 yada 7nt oynicaklar
murat: Nunes sakinledi bˆ…lten okuyor
hobakan: ˆ u an 7d dersek kˆ¶r kupu yeriz
tez: yapmasˆ‰ zor
champ i: 4 cl deni p x gelirse 6 yada gidilmez
atalok: guneyin eliyle aˆ§maz
tez: gˆ…neyden oynuyor nafiz..p
yusufb: cˆ‰kmayabilir ..p
yakop: ˆ ansˆ‰ yˆ…ksek dedim olur deˆ il tabii
ki 7 nt oynasˆ‰nlar isterim
hobakan: aynen aynen:)
atalok : belki sp 10 ˆ§ˆ‰kar meraklˆ‰dˆ‰r
bunlar
Gerben42: dbl is an interesting choice - will he
try to recover with 3♠ now?
sarkar_suk: they r playing power prec?
yusufb: ama yapˆ‰labilir..p
tez: dam
atak edildi.yaptˆ‰k
atalok: sen 2 sinidemi seyrediyon tez?
Gerben42: Tarzan precision
hedyg: got a dog?
hobakan: ben de 7
demeyelim diyorum.. Q
hobakan: :)
tez: ♣ ataˆ ˆ‰ avantaj ama yinede batar
Gerben42: its with lots of relay.. 4
sarkar_suk: thx gerben.. 7
marlowepi: this should be a good NS result by
anyone’s standards
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h bertens: great result for ns
hobakan: as sorulamadˆ‰.. K
tez: ˆ imdi kubac ♣ atak ederse batacak
tez: zor
champ i: h dam klasik atak cl zor
mcphee: all things going his way = 11 tricks
hedyg: 11 tricks and next
arigun: benim anlamadigim perde de fantoni ve
©
salvo birbirini goruyor atak ederken fantoniye
dogru alert gelmedi mi.. 3
murat: edildi Cengiz Abi. kˆ‰sacasˆ‰ konvansiyon
kartlarˆ‰ yetersiz ve farklˆ‰ aˆ§ˆ‰klamalarda
bulundular diye bir ˆ ikayette bulundular
yusufb : onlar aglˆ‰cak oyle yada boyle bi
onemi yokki
yakop: aˆ larken de italyan yapˆ‰yolar mˆ‰
murat:)
yusufb: bu konuˆ mada hiˆ§ hoˆ uma gitti 4 cue
et diyo nezih
yusufb: hiˆ§ hoˆ uma gitmedi
murat: :) arasˆ‰ra
yusufb: salvo etmeli
tez:
yu bˆ‰rakacak
atalok: imkansˆ‰z
tez:
atak edilsin diye verilmiˆ kartlar
murat: Bˆ…lent’in suratˆ‰ ekˆ idi :)
tez: kuzey cue etse ♣ ile kontr atsa bulent aslan...tek
ˆ art
hobakan: hiˆ§ kc yok zannetti Nezih.. 9
tez: ben olsam 3♣ derdim aslanˆ‰n eliyle
funtay: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/championscup-2010 webcam canli
tez: ♠ gelmezse ˆ ansˆ‰mˆ‰z var.. K
champ i: sp apel verdi.. A
tez: deer miˆ im:)
Gerben42: Tarzan was played by Johnny Weissmuller what’s in a name
tez: ♠ gelmeseydi yatˆ‰r kaldˆ‰r ˆ§ok iˆ i vardˆ
‰ ama yapardˆ‰.. 2.. A
Gerben42: behave so no problem here.. 3..
8.. 5.. 7.. J.. 2
sarkar_suk: yes card lies friendly
Gerben42: i dont think they care about making
the last trick with 7..♠2
tez: 8li ˆ§akmasˆ‰ iyi..♠5
tez: yoksa kozda alamˆ‰yorlardˆ‰..♠K..♠J..
Q.. 8..♣4.. 4.. T
jbgood: Onstein tried 3 NT on 2 in the OR, for
2 down and another 3 imps for Angelini
mcphee: why the agony?
hedyg: W does not need those ♠s
atalok: 13 verebiliriz 16 alabiliriz..♠T
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yusufb: bu borddan malesef sayˆ‰ veririz
funtay: su anda webcamda gˆ¶rˆ…nenler Nezih
Kubac /kˆ‰rmˆ‰zˆ‰ formali ve Geir Helgamo..
♣6
Board
NS:
EW:
o 1N
c 3
4
©
this/total IMPs
Onstein - NED
48
Angelini - ITA
46
E
-1 100
E
-1 100
4
♠J53
65
K854
♣K Q J 8
♠9 6 4
N ♠A Q 8 7
10 8 4 3 2
AK 9 7
W E
AJ
93
S
♣9 6 5
♣A 7 3
♠ K10 2
QJ
Q10 7 6 2
♣10 4 2
120
W: Brogeland
W
p
1
p
¨
N: Drijver
Open
S: Brink
N
E
p
1♣
p
1N
p
¨
¨
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© § © ª
ª
§
5
4
4
8
7
8
8
8
5
5
E: Angelini
S
p
p
©
§
© ª © ª
© §
¨ ª ¨ §
#1 S:: 2,A,4,3
#2 W:: 2,5,9,J
#3 S:: 7,J,K,9
#4 N:: Q,A,4,5
#5 E:: A,Q,3,6
#6 E:: K, 2, 4, J
#7 E:: 7, T, T, 3 #8 W:: 8, 8,3,2
#9 W:: 4,5,Q,K
#10 S:: 6, 6, 8, 7
#11 N:: K,,,
sybarra : I was operator in Philly, but never
knew what this looked like (even though they did
from my room)..♣5.. 6..♣7.. 9..♠4..♠Q..♠
9..♠7..♠3..p..p
sybarra: hmm..1♣!..16+any..p..1 !..0-7..p..1N..1619..p..p..p.. 2
brgpro: pass on 1NT is not a common choice...
brgpro: could be right though
sybarra: 8 tricks possible
marlowepi: but it can easily be right...weak suit
and all HCP in the doubleton.. A.. 4.. 3
brgpro: 8 tricks, so the pass gained 6 imps
bobdrijver: indeed...not many’s choice, but win
here.. 2
marlowepi: stayman is also a reasonable choice..
5.. 9.. J.. 7.. J.. K
sybarra: now cashing as much as possible.. 9
marlowepi: assuming that 2C-2D-2H does not
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brgpro: safety play for 7, one imp less now, only
5
marlowepi: that way you at least dont miss nine
card heart fit..♣Q
sybarra: and lead will change hands again ..♣A..
♣4..♣5
marlowepi: might have to play 43 spades but that
doesnt have to be worse than 1NT.. A
brgpro: oops.. Q.. 3.. 6.. K..♠2.. 4..♠J..
7..♣T.. T..♠3.. 8..♣8..♣3..♣2..♠4..♠5..♠
Q..♠K.. 6..♠6.. 8..♣7..♣K
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NS:
EW:
o 1N
c 3
4
©
this/total IMPs
Angelini - ITA
46
Onstein - NED
48
E
-1 100
E
-1 100
4
♠J53
65
K854
♣K Q J 8
♠9 6 4
N ♠A Q 8 7
10 8 4 3 2
AK 9 7
W E
AJ
93
S
♣9 6 5
♣A 7 3
♠ K10 2
QJ
Q10 7 6 2
♣10 4 2
120
W: De Wijs
W
p
1
2
3
p
¨
¨
¨
§4,5,J,3
©A,J,2,5
¨2,J,K,3
¨6,A,5,9
#1 S::
#3 E::
#5 S::
#7 S::
N: Nunes
Closed
S: Fantoni
N
E
p
1♣
p
1N
p
2♠
p
3
p
©
5
4
4
8
7
8
8
8
5
5
E: Muller
S
p
p
p
p
§K,A,2,6
§7,T,9,8
ª5,7,T,4
©3,6,9,Q
#2 N::
#4 E::
#6 N::
#8 W::
atalok : bence 16 alma ˆ ansˆ‰mˆ‰z daha
yuksek
Gerben42: an almost-slam here
djneill: hi all
hedyg: hi Dan, welcome :)
imp_jan: HI FOLKS
mcphee: hi
hedyg: and Jan :)
marlowepi: Not sure why W did not intervene,
but presumably due to volors and major suits
lengths. more generally, people play all kinds of
junk over opps NT, most of it much better suited
to .....p
marlowepi: MPs than to IMPs. The one thing that
methods designed for IMPs need to do is make
provision for showing the majors, because if you
have a game or a good partscore you can win the
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...
murat: Boye ne diyeceˆ imi bilemedim pas dedim
marlowepi: declaration with, that is where it rates
diyor
to be. the now-passe Ripstra convention would
have gotten EW to game there
Gerben42: 1 = forcing..p
tez: ♣ empas geˆ§miyor .. empas geˆ§miyor..1
♣!
marlowepi: colors, not volors:)..p
imp_jan: everybody is exited about the outcome
of this match
atalok: 2cl sonra 3 cl ˆ eklinde durulabilir..1 !
Gerben42: 2♣ = at least one of ♣, balanced, fit
marlowepi : that remark was not intended as
acritique of the EW methods--i dont even know
what they are. only pointing out that a method
that has long passed out of vogue has much to be
said ...
marlowepi: for it
hobakan: :):) ..p
tez: 3nt iyi yer
tez: bakalˆ‰m gelecek miyiz
atalok: 1nt?..1N
tez: her iki masada da batacak zonlar..az batan
kazanˆ‰r
atalok: minoredemi forsing?
hobakan: en yakˆ‰n anter
champ i: kenan 1 nt alert ne edildi
murat: angelini forcing dedi sanki
hobakan: sorulmamˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰tˆ‰r muhtemelen
ama biz ˆ§ok merak ettik bi zahmet sorsana
Murat
eccone: ♣ ler
murat: angelini sormadan aˆ§ˆ‰klama yapˆ‰yo
zaten saˆ olsun :)
tez: yapay sistem oynuyorlar..1♣ aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ dˆ
‰ˆ ˆ‰ndakiler limit aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ .kuvvetli olamaz
vugraphzus: Murat soruyor sanˆ‰rˆ‰m
eccone: yada rˆ¶le olabilir belki
champ i: 9-11 cller galiba
tez: 2♣ 2 ya transfer..sonra 2 nt diyerek davet
edecek
murat: Fantoni sorular sordu
tez: zorlu bu elle daveti kabul eder sanˆ‰rˆ‰m
hedyg: 1♣=16+..p
mcphee: nip and tuck for sure
champ i: 4 h oluyor 3 nt batˆ‰yor..2 !
murat: 1NT GF dendi ˆ imdi
murat: fakat 2dia minimummuˆ
eccone: ˆ imdi ?
hedyg: 1 0-7
imp_jan: francesco arrived here in izmir by boat
murat: dolayˆ‰sˆ‰yla Boye pas dedi..p
hobakan: baˆ larˆ‰m Boye iˆ e ben yaa
hobakan: 3 ♣ desin 5 ♣ desin:)
champ i: 5 karoda desinler
murat: Angelini: niye 2tref degil
murat: Boye: Bu el uygun deˆ iˆ
murat: *deˆ il
atalok: saˆ§maladˆ‰lar kazandˆ‰lar kˆ‰sa ozet
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bu bence
murat: ˆ imdilik bˆ…tˆ…n dedikodu bu kadar :)
champ i: kesinlikle
hobakan: bu da uyar mˆ‰?
hedyg: sry 0-8..2♠!
imp_jan: angelini that is..p
djneill: looks like East is superaccepting the
transfer with the great hand for
imp_jan: yesterday he was still a little shaky (due
to the waves)
hedyg: 1NT denies 19+
mcphee: yes
imp_jan: today he is figthing
hedyg: :)
djneill: mirror distribution almost will hurt a
little, and we’ll see about the restricted choice in
hearts
mcphee: the ♠ spots are just enough to let 3
make I think, with the right view in trumps
imp_jan: the latest news is that next year Iceland
very likely will be the host for the 10th EC Cup
hedyg: 2 xfer, 2♠ looks like a preaccept
tez: 3 nt yi yaptˆ‰rdˆ‰k diˆ er masada ..3 !
tez: ˆ§ok farketti
tez: doˆ ru ♠ dˆ¶nˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…de bulmuˆ tuk
hobakan: ufak bir not verelim.. Milli takˆ‰mda
kim deˆ iˆ irse deˆ iˆ sin 2000 li yˆ‰llarˆ‰n baˆ ˆ
‰ndan beri deˆ iˆ meyen tek oyuncu Brogeland
tez: 1 iˆ§eri muhtemel
hobakan: big bradˆ‰r 200 diyor
tez: 3 nt yapˆ‰lˆ‰yordu..dolayˆ‰sˆ‰yla sayˆ
‰ kaybedebiliriz
hobakan: 2
p-p- gelince 3 da bir alternetif
olabilir miydi diye ......p
Gerben42 : now Fantoni must bid 5 as he
knows no control..3
tez: yorum yapsam tutuklanˆ‰rˆ‰m.onun iˆ§in
susmak en iyisi bu elle ilgili..p
hobakan: Helgamo nun oynamadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ zamanlarda
da , dˆ…nya ˆ ampiyonluˆ unu kazandˆ‰klarˆ‰
nda da
murat: Bˆ…lent biraz daha aˆ§ˆ‰klama aldˆ‰
Angelini’den
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tez: apel defosta anlaˆ amadˆ‰lar..p
tez: ♠ 9 lu saˆ kalˆ‰yor
hedyg: 3 another xfer
2celik1 : eyvah eyvah hem 3nt olmus hem de
¨
burada 4© deklare edildi..p
djneill: South was beginning to hope they would
play in ¨ with all West’s ART bids
hedyg: lol
hedyg: no, 3¨ was not a cuebid..♣4
djneill: South has a small clue in that North did
not double ANY of the ¨ bids, maybe North has
something elsewhere..♣5..♣J..♣3
mcphee : i suspect he will manage this with
elimination play
funtay: Bilmiyenler icin: asagida yer alan Gˆ B
yazisini tiklayip en alttaki double dummy analizleri
secenegini tiklarsaniz el hakkinda olup olmayacaˆ
i bilgi veriyor program..♣K..♣A
hedyg: there goes the
loser?..♣2
hobakan : belki bizimkiler hiˆ§ mˆ…dahale
etmezse Sˆ…leymanˆ‰n dediˆ i gibi 16 da alˆ‰r
ˆ‰z yani:)..♣6
tez: onada bˆ…yˆ…k abi diyoruz biz..hiˆ§ hata
yapmaz
tez: 3 nt de 4♠ birde alˆ‰yoruz.. A.. J.. 2
tez: ikisi de sinirlenmiˆ tir bu bordta
mcphee: lose 2♣ 1 1♠.. 5
djneill: muller will mull this jack
hedyg: only 1♠?
mcphee: yes
hedyg: lets see
tez: 4 bitek
partajˆ‰na super oyun..♣7
murat: bu elden gˆ¶rˆ…ntˆ…ler: http://img812.imageshack.us
/i/s4s.mp4/
funtay: ancak 4 el acik analiz
tez: oyun masada oynanˆ‰yor ˆ u anda internette
deˆ il..yanda operator var..ismi genellikle kenan
oluyor
tez: o kiˆ i masada olan biteni bize aktarˆ‰yor
hobakan: Kolata aˆ§ˆ‰klamalara en gˆ…zel aˆ§ˆ
‰klamayˆ‰ getirdi. Doˆ u ile Batˆ‰nˆ‰n
ellerini deˆ iˆ tirirsek 11 lˆ¶ve alˆ‰nabiliyor basit
ˆ§e..♣T..♣9
tez : biliyorlarki ayaklarˆ‰ zon oynayˆ‰p
batacak
mcphee: if he guesses to drop the
hedyg: overtake and ♠?
hedyg: hmmm..♣8
djneill: oof.. 2.. J
atalok : batarsˆ‰n ˆ§ˆ‰karsˆ‰n o ayrˆ‰da
deklerasyon saˆ§ma idi.. K
tez:
10 luda olsa super.. 3
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hedyg: he thought about it and decided against
mcphee: now down with ♣..♠5
2celik1: biraz sans da gerekli..♠7
2celik1: sadece
partajina oluyor,ilk devre son
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boardda 6♣ 4-1 koza batti
funtay: nafizde ♠ 3 tane olsaydi koz bˆ…yˆ…tˆ
…rdˆ…k
funtay: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/championscup-2010 tiklayin gelir canli gˆ¶rˆ…nti iˆ§in, ˆ¶bˆ
…r oda
tez: oynayanlar bizim yazdˆ‰klarˆ‰mˆ‰zˆ‰ gˆ
¶rmˆ…yor
funtay: o da sansizlik..♠T
murat: el aˆ§ma teˆ ebbˆ…sˆ… baˆ arˆ‰sˆ‰zlˆ
‰kla sonuˆ§landˆ‰..♠4.. 6
tez: bu elde salvo 1♠ diyebilse ne kadar farkederdi
konuˆ malar.. A.. 5.. 9
tez: maˆ§tan sonra okuyabilirler
mcphee: or ♠
hedyg: how about a ♣ back, would have worked
as well
mcphee: how about if you just play to remove
the exit cards?
mcphee: then you get an end play 100%
djneill: East is trying to get any distributional
clues he can, if North has the ♣KQJ and ♠K and
K though he would have opened the bidding
murat: bu elden: http://img715.imageshack.us/i/
q44.mp4/.. 3.. 6.. 9.. Q
champ i : bˆ…lent okuyor valla kˆ¶tˆ… ˆ ey
yazmayˆ‰n
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Board
NS:
EW:
o 3♠
c 2
©
5
this/total IMPs
Onstein - NED
5
53
Angelini - ITA
46
E
-2 100
E 2
110
5
5-6
♠ Q10
4-5
A432
4
5
10 9 5 2
7
♣10 8 4
♠K 9
N ♠A 8 7 3 2
KJ
10 9 8 7 5
W E
Q76 43
J8
S
♣Q J 5 2
♣A
♠J654
7
8
Q6
8
AK
8
♣K 9 7 6 3
6
110
W: Brogeland
W
1N
2N
3♠
N: Drijver
Open
S: Brink
N
E
p
1♠
p
2
p
3
p
p
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E: Angelini
S
p
p
p
p
¨K,3,2,8
#2 S::¨A,4,T,J
§7,2,T,A
#4 E::©5,6,J,A
§8,©7,§K,5 #6 S::§3,J,4,©8
¨Q,5,©9,ª4 #8 S::§6,Q,ªQ,A
ª2,5,K,T
#10 W::ª9,©4,ª3,J
brgpro: first played ©9 to make sure 7 then took
#1 S::
#3 S::
#5 N::
#7 W::
#9 E::
♠ finesse at risk?
vugraphzur: yes
bobdrijver: wow indeed..
marlowepi: that strengthens the argument for
Stayman in several ways..p
bobdrijver: if you don’t know transfers , stayman
indeed :)..1♠..p..1N
bobdrijver : at least Angelini is feeling like
making some action...good after the first 3 boring
boards..p..2 ..p..2N..p..3 ..p..3♠..p..p..p.. K
brgpro: can avoid the ♠6 to be promoted now i
think.. 3.. 2.. 8.. A.. 4.. T.. J
sybarra: cashing ak of will sort the ht suit out
(imo)
brgpro: cant i mean
brgpro: so lose 2♠ 2 and 1 ..♣7..♣2..♣T..
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marlowepi: i dont know if it is clear to bid 3H
with the E hand. with over half the HCP in the
minors, pass might work out best.. 5.. 6.. J
brgpro: a ♣ would work too because E will be
shortened.. A
bobdrijver: well..♣8.. 7..♣K..♣5..♣3..♣J..♣
4.. 8.. Q.. 5.. 9..♠4..♣6..♣Q..♠Q..♠A
brgpro: -2 even, he doesnt know the Q will fall
on the K
brgpro: 5 imps away..♠2..♠5..♠K..♠T..♠9..
4..♠3..♠J
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NS:
EW:
o 3♠
c 2
5
this/total IMPs
Angelini - ITA
46
Onstein - NED
5
53
E
-2 100
E 2
110
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5-6
♠ Q10
4-5
A432
4
5
10 9 5 2
7
♣10 8 4
♠K 9
N ♠A 8 7 3 2
KJ
10 9 8 7 5
W E
Q76 43
J8
S
♣Q J 5 2
♣A
♠J654
7
8
Q6
8
AK
8
♣K 9 7 6 3
6
110
W: De Wijs
W
p
XX!
p
N: Nunes
Closed
S: Fantoni
N
E
p
p
p
2♣
p
2
p
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ª
ª ©
§
ª§ ª
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S
1N
X
p
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#1 S:: K,3,2,8
#2 S:: A,4,T,J
#3 S:: 5,K,T,2
#4 W:: 9,Q,A,4
#5 E:: 8,6, J,A
#6 N:: 2,5,6,K
#7 W:: 2,T,A,6
#8 E:: 7,Q, 6, 3
#9 S:: J, 5,4, 3
#10 S:: K,J,8, 8
#11 E:: T,,,
tez: kuzey pas derdi..uˆ§ardˆ‰
ler
champ i: angelinin aˆ§ˆ‰p 2 karoda kalˆ‰nan
bir sistem yoktur herhalde
champ i: maˆ§tan sonra yani
djneill: not a success for the superaccept..p
2celik1: 4 boardu iceride 2♠ oynanmis..p
vugraphzus: ben siliyorum maˆ§ bitince:)
Gerben42: someone heat up the dealer pls
mcphee: I think he misplayed it
hobakan: egale olmasˆ‰nˆ‰ umduˆ umuz elden
de 5 kaybederek geri dˆ…ˆ tˆ…k bu devrede
de...1N!
hobakan: kenan da olmasa:)
champ i: kenan sorarsada iyi ˆ eyler yazdlar de
tez: http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph_archives
/vugraph_archives.php buradanda kaˆ§ˆ‰rdˆ‰ˆ
ˆ‰nˆ‰z yayˆ‰nlarˆ‰ izleyebilirsiniz
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funtay : rakip takima yenilen oyuncularimiza
hicbir sey demeyiz hatta kutlariz
jbgood: rsult page reported to be infected by
virus!! DO NOT OPEN!
Walddk4: Welcome to Lars Andersson..p..p
tez: zorlu demek istemiˆ tim
champ i: 6 h var cl doˆ ru empasa
hobakan: 3 NT
funtay : bu takim Dˆ…nyada olusabilecek en
kuvvetli bir iki takimdan biri
vugraphzus: welcome and hi all..2♣!
hedyg: 12-14 NT
hedyg: even 4 4 4 1 hands qualify
djneill: 2♣ = majors we think
hedyg: we are so clever LOL
hobakan: tutmuyorum kˆ¶rˆ… demek..
Gerben42: 1♣ strong 2 balanced 3NT me too? :)
djneill: not a new convention, has been around
for at least 50 years?
Walddk4 : There is a typo in North’s name,
operator, Sylvan..r!
vugraphzus: ok
Walddk4: you reversed the L and Y
Walddk4: And the Icelanders have an i not the
Turkish y
fitini reddediyor
tez: 3nt
murat: 2 = 10-12p 5+
2celik1: iceride 6♣ denildi..p
hedyg: as a matter of fact the CC confirms that
djneill: before that they didn’t get these computer
hands so they had to adjust :-)
bt: thx roland i will be here a while only..2
Walddk4: Sigurjonsson Ingimarsson
Walddk4: Thanks
jbgood: EBL page also infected i am told
hedyg: lol
mcphee: maybe redble shows 2-2 with minors
vugraphzus: np sry about that ..p
jbgood: Fantunes bid to 4 on 3 - so another
leader...
Walddk4: np..p
hobakan: 10-13 diyolardˆ‰
serhat: 6C olmaz pik cˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰rsa, sanirim..p
tez: 4 transferi al yoksa ateˆ ederim demek
bt: this is an ok game that does not make.. K..
3
champ i: 3 nolu board 6 nt de durdular
atalok: gitti bizim 16
champ i: gˆ¶ksu multy aˆ§tˆ‰ 1.den
yusufb: nt oynadˆ‰lar giden 13 olcaktˆ‰
Gerben42: on a
lead you can play to J for
your 9th trick
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jbgood: and they just bid to 4♠ on 4
hobakan: :).. 2.. 8
djneill: the spots in the majors will be useful
mcphee: they sure are
jbgood: nice and cold slam.. A.. 4
imp_jan: likely to make this.. T.. J
hedyg: 10 for ♠
imp_jan: Bauke Muller hit the bulletin here in
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Izmir with quite a few hands
imp_jan: an ongoing series The Professor, part 1,
part 2 etc
hedyg: (Jan is in charge of the bulletin)
imp_jan: lots of fun, great hands
hedyg: bulletins at: http://www.eurobridge.org/
competitions/10Izmir/Bulletins.htm..♠5
djneill : it doesn’t help North to overruff the
dummy in spades, maybe the return is the way
to go to create a little havoc
hedyg: that will save the Q
djneill:
6 will drop unfortunately for South
djneill: if North had it, and East ruffed with the
7, the 6 would set up maybe
jbgood: 32-0 so far this session - Angelini on a
roll..♠K
2celik1: maalesef 6♣ cok zor hale geldi ..♠T
tez: angelini takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰n dˆ…nya ˆ ampiyonlu
ˆ u toplamˆ‰ 30 un ˆ…zerindedir sanˆ‰yorum
vugraphzus: -3 diye claim etti..♠2
2celik1: hic bir halukarda olmaz artik 6♣..♠9..♠
Q..♠A
atalok: 12 elden 4 devre oynancak maˆ§..♠4
imp_jan: i can already tell you that in tonights
prize giving Daily Bulletin an unbelievable
defence by Fulvio Fantoni will be published
hedyg: ok he knows where the J♠ is now
mcphee: S should always get J♠
hedyg: prize giving?
hedyg: oh the late bulletin!
hedyg: sry a bit slow :(
yusufb: bundan sonraki devreler 14:00 16:00 18:
00 da..♠8..♠6
imp_jan: yep, today we have 2 buls .. J
hedyg: the OR need not worry that we catch up
with them.....
djneill: South knows East has 5 hearts (if just 4
then North would have 5 and transferred) and 5
spades (from the ♠ cards), so 5521
vugraphzus: kˆ‰sa bir ara verildi.. A.. 2..
5.. 6.. K..♣2..♣T..♣A..♣6
champ i: bu devre daha kˆ¶tˆ… baˆ ladˆ‰k
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NS:
EW:
o 3♣
c 3
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6
this/total IMPs
Onstein - NED
3
56
Angelini - ITA
46
W -2 200
W -1 100
6
7-6
♠ K10 6
6
K7
5
9
A Q10 3
7-6
♣ A K10 3
♠8 7 4
N ♠A J 5 2
Q J983
A10 5
W E
K84
J
S
♣7 2
♣Q J 8 6 5
♠Q 9 3
3-6
5-7
642
7-8
97652
3-4
♣9 4
5-6
110
W: Brogeland
W
2♣
p
N: Drijver
Open
S: Brink
N
E
1
p
3♣
p
¨
S
p
p
ª6,2,9,7
#2 S::§9,2,K,5
§A,6,4,7
#4 N::ªK,A,3,4
§Q,©6,¨4,§3 #6 E::§J,¨7,ª8,§T
©5,2,Q,K
#8 N::ªT,5,Q,©3
¨2,K,A,J
brgpro: what would u do after 2♣ passed to u?..
©7..©Q..¨6..©3..♠J..♣5..♣4..♠3..♣K..♣J..♣
8..©8..©T
brgpro: as N
brgpro: seems their 2♣ opening shows 6, ..1¨!
..11-15 unbal. w/o 5 M
sybarra: I gather the 1 ¨ is the catch all bid ..p..2
#1 N::
#3 N::
#5 E::
#7 E::
#9 S::
♣!..p/c
sybarra: "could be short"
brgpro: but what is 2♣?
brgpro: could AOSO be short?
brgpro: Also
bobdrijver: :)
sybarra: says pass or correct, so must not be a
good hand
sybarra: I meant NOT a good hand
brgpro: not an auction we see everyday..p..3♣
..p..p
sybarra: am told 1 is unbalanced with 4M
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brgpro: let’s take our plus ...they are vul...p
brgpro: N better duck this..♠6..♠2..♠9..♠7..♣
9..♣2
brgpro: i thought it could be down 2 but now
back to -1 and a push. W doesnt have antry to
finesse ..♣K..♣5..♣A..♣6..♣4..♣7..♠K..♠
A..♠3..♠4..♣Q.. 6.. 4..♣3..♣J.. 7..♠8..♣
T.. 5.. 2.. Q.. K
brgpro: -3 i meant..♠T..♠5..♠Q.. 3
brgpro: now -2
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NS:
EW:
o 3♣
c 3
6
this/total IMPs
Angelini - ITA
46
Onstein - NED
3
56
W -2 200
W -1 100
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7-6
♠ K10 6
6
K7
5
9
A Q10 3
7-6
♣ A K10 3
♠8 7 4
N ♠A J 5 2
Q J983
A10 5
W E
K84
J
S
♣7 2
♣Q J 8 6 5
♠Q 9 3
3-6
5-7
642
7-8
97652
3-4
♣9 4
5-6
110
W: De Wijs
W
N: Nunes
Closed
S: Fantoni
N
E
2
X
p
p
p
¨
E: Muller
S
p
3
p
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#1 N::¨A,J,7,4
#2 N::ªT,J,Q,4
#3 S::ª3,7,K,A
#4 E::ª2,9,8,6
#5 S::§9,7,K,5
#6 N::§A,6,4,2
#7 N::¨Q,§8,¨5,K #8 W::©8,7,5,4
#9 W::©3,K,A,2
tez: maˆ§ bi anda umutsuz hale geldi..¨2..¨K..
¨A..¨J
2
3
serhat: evet, malesef. aslˆ‰nda burda 6h dememeleri
bir sans idi. yine 1-4 trefe boyun egildi..
djneill: all pushes so far..2 !
atalok: yine siftah lazˆ‰m bize ..p
marlowepi: specs asking about this auction. i
dont have system notes, both looks like ordinary
opener, 2C either inverted minor that does not
deny a 4 card major or else a general GF. natural
...
marlowepi : rebid, shortness 3S, 4H perhaps
control or maybe KC. all guesses, likely wrong
funtay: daha cok bord var umutsuz olmak iˆ§in
erken..2
hobakan : bu turnuvayˆ‰ 1 kere Almanya
kazandˆ‰. gerisini italyan takˆ‰mlarˆ‰ kazandˆ
‰
Gerben42: 1 could be short
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Walddk4: Welcome to Drew Casen..
drewsky: morning all
bt: hi drew..p
vugraphzus: welcome
atalok: 1 imp alalˆ‰m once
funtay: 9 seneden beri yapiliyor bu turnuva
djneill: what should North do? E-W could be
tez: herˆ ey yerli yerinde
tez: italyan takˆ‰mˆ‰nda 3 norveˆ§li oyuncu
weak or strong and only they know
mcphee: 2 is to play i guess so do we dble as
N?
djneill: that looks best, but then what to bid over
2♠ or 3
mcphee: 2 was short
3 suited
hedyg: 11-15, short
bt: missing 7 was worth 12 imps for ns, bridge
is an easy game lol..3
drewsky: Here, 1 showed 4+ hearts, and 2
was a simple raise to 2
bt : and i the system structure i think west is
supposed to pass
bt: now
mcphee: i suppose they have leb..3
mcphee: oh maybe not
djneill: lhosnebel
hedyg: wanting to bid 3NT?
djneill: I think the Bridz (World) magazines are
calling us for a problem submission
djneill: and IMP :-)
hedyg: lol
hedyg: Jan are you taking notes?
vugraphzus: Nunes thinks
tez: her iki masadada 2nt oynanˆ‰yor..p..p
Gerben42: Fantoni betweeen pass and 3♣, or
even 2♠ hoping for 4-3 fit
Gerben42: at least 2 isnt game
Gerben42: at this vuln. passing is reasonable
Gerben42: 2♠ 2 1 1 = 200
Gerben42: 1♣ i mean
sarkar_suk: deal no 4 onstein bid 6h on open
room
Gerben42: credit Helgemo Helness for putting on
pressure with 1♠ 3♠
Gerben42: Fantoni still torn between his options
Gerben42: the longer he thinks the more likely
he will try 2♠ I guess
Gerben42: the basic question is would he double
1 with something like 4513
funtay: 3nt iˆ§in hersey uygun dagilmiˆ ..p
champ i: evet
tez: doˆ u batˆ‰nˆ‰n ellerini deˆ iˆ tirsek 1 nt
olmaz..ˆ imdi 4 nt olacak
2celik1: belki de 5
marlowepi : guessing NS headed for doomed
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hedyg: great selfcontrol!
champ i: kontur.. A
jbgood: Fantunes also bid to 6 on the previous
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game.. J
djneill: well if 3 indeed is weak, then 9 fast
tricks on a lead require perfection
murat: http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions/
European_championships/TeamChampionships.asp?
qmenuid=19.. 7
mcphee: well this lead choice will save a trick I
think.. 4
bt: now east just has to guess
or , does that
make it a 75% game?..♠T
atalok : neden konturlamadˆ‰ nezih en fazla
yapar ortagˆ‰ zonda aˆ§mˆ‰ˆ
Gerben42: 2♠ is just too speculative, 3♣ ditto,
and -180 isnt the end of the world, so he takes his
chances here
Gerben42: on a good day pd has 3424 and opps
have no fit
mcphee: W was a little pushy bidding 3 , even
tho he may find 4 card support
mcphee: nice switch
hedyg: yes but Muller did not promise more than
3 s
mcphee: right
hedyg: he can have any 5 4 1 3 hand
hedyg: as well as 4 4 1 4
djneill: ok swing to Onstein after Angelini on
previous board got to 3♠ after opening 1♠ on the
9 HCP..♠J..♠Q..♠4
champ i: irde bu kadar geriyken ..♠3
atalok : boyle ˆ§eyler onemlidir veriri 800 u
stress baˆ lar sonra ne yapacak
atalok: bari korlerden sonra sp donselerde ˆ§ok
batˆ‰rsak yine 12 imp alˆ‰rˆ‰z
champ i: zonda 2 karo aˆ§ˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ ken x suz ge
ˆ§mesi dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…lemez
tez: bizimkiler 4 kontrlu oynuyor
atalok: sp donerlerse fazla degisiklik olmaz
tez: sayˆ‰ vereceˆ iz yari
atalok: tez hoca?
champ i: 2 iˆ§eri x lu 300
drewsky: I believe this hand is cold for 4 if
declarer NEVER touches hearts ..♠7
Gerben42: i hear Helness is playing 3 x even
atalok: hayˆ‰rlˆ‰ haber yokmu hiˆ§?..♠K
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tez: iki masayˆ‰da seyrediyorum.ne yapayˆ‰
m..yalan haber mi?
atalok: bursa 0 trabzon 2 soranlara
tez: izmirde vugraf salonundayˆ‰m
bt: good idea..♠A..♠2
Walddk4: Welcome to Wayne Stuart..♠9
wstuart: Hi all.
Walddk4: http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions
/10Izmir/Results.htm for results and running
scores
bt: ♣A ♣K and ♣ ruff to start with is normal
bt: and then he sees the drew line, lol
drewsky: South’s failure to shift to s marks
him with the queen
tez: 2 iˆ§eri..♠8
2celik1: Tezcan Hocanin dedigi gibi oldu..♠6
tez: hepsi mecburi hamle
mcphee: so 1 in the glue
Gerben42: so could be 7 imps to Onstein..♣9
sarkar_suk: very important & much needed 7
imp gain for onstein on tha deal
Gerben42: still a long way
Gerben42: 500 confirmed from other room
Gerben42: he has entry problems
Gerben42: he would like to play a 4th ♠ but then
cannot get ♣K in
tez:
as alˆ‰p oynarsa..♣7..♣K
jbgood: same contract open room..♣5..♣A..♣6
tez: belki 1 imp kurtarˆ‰rˆ‰z..♣4
funtay: bu turnuvada transfer serbest:)..♣2
drewsky: Devils coup variation coming up here..
Q
tez: ♠ 10 oynayacak..♣8.. 5
hobakan: kontursuz gitmeseydi iyiydi ama her 2
oyuncumuz da dbl diyecek gˆ…ˆ§ gˆ¶remedi
ellerinde.. K
mcphee: and even that is a bit lucky I think
drewsky: now he will probably go down.. 8
bt: now east will get a count of the hand
bt: unfortunately.. 7
tez: biliyor ortaˆ ˆ‰nda 3lu ♠ i.. 5.. 4
tez: 4 iˆ§eri 200.. 3
Gerben42 : funny now N is endplayed if he
cashes A then south is endplayed next.. K..
A
hedyg : seems there was no way to stop him
before 3 /♠.. 2
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this/total IMPs
NS:
Onstein - NED
56
EW:
Angelini - ITA
8
54
o 3
S 6
170
c 2 x E
-2 500
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7
9
♠K 7
8
K975
8
10-11
Q86
8
♣AK Q 9
♠A Q J 3
N ♠10 9 6
Q8
J10 6 3 2
W E
K2
J53
S
♣J7532
♣10 6
♠8 5 4 2
3
4
A4
5
A10 9 7 4
2
♣8 4
5
600
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W
N: Drijver
Open
S: Brink
N
E
1N
p
p
X
2N
p
W: Brogeland
©Q,5,2,A
§5,A,T,4
§K,6,8,3
©K,6,4,8
¨9,2,Q,5
ª8,,,
#1 W::
#3 W::
#5 N::
#7 N::
#9 S::
#11 S::
E: Angelini
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p
S
p
X!
3
¨
ª
ª
§ © ª §
§ ¨ §
¨
#2 S:: 4,A,7,6
#4 N:: K,9,2,3
#6 N:: Q, 3, 5, 7
#8 N:: 9, 3,4, 2
#10 N:: 6,J,A,K
brgpro: now comes a somewhat boring 3NT for
NS
sybarra: live from the table http://www.ustream.tv
/channel/champions-cup-2010
sybarra: this is fabulous real time ..p
bobdrijver: 2 doubled perhaps....1N!..12-15..
..2
brgpro: S would X now...most play it as t/o.. !
..p
brgpro: would N leave it in?
brgpro: this can be bloody...
sybarra: probably depends on net connection
..2N!..no 5 cards..p
sybarra: in the live picture, the older gentleman
is Angelini ..3 ..p
sybarra: the young man full screen (usually) is
Sjoert Brink
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sybarra: hand on head (at moment) is Drijver)
brgpro: pd makes a free t/o double....don’t think
N would pass on this
sybarra : now the hand on head, blue shirt is
Brogeland
sybarra: the missing one is Brogeland
MolvaM2: let me show u brogeland now
MolvaM2: here
MolvaM2: with brink in the background
brgpro: we cant see it here, i think all chinese
viewers cant see it, not just me..p..p
brgpro: really passed?
MolvaM2: yes.. Q
MolvaM2: maybe the great wall acts as a firewall?
brgpro: that is a big decision...so i take back what
i said...it is NOT a boring 3NT...
bobdrijver: don’t you think south is worth 3 on
2NT?.. 5.. 2.. A..♠4..♠A..♠7..♠6..♣5..♣
A..♣T..♣4..♠K..♠9..♠2..♠3..♣K..♣6..♣8..♣
3..♣Q.. 3..♠5..♣7
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this/total IMPs
NS:
Angelini - ITA
8
54
EW:
Onstein - NED
56
o 3
S 6
170
c 2 x E
-2 500
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9
♠K 7
8
K975
8
10-11
Q86
8
♣AK Q 9
♠A Q J 3
N ♠10 9 6
Q8
J10 6 3 2
W E
K2
J53
S
♣J7532
♣10 6
♠8 5 4 2
3
4
A4
5
A10 9 7 4
2
♣8 4
5
600
W
N: Nunes
Closed
S: Fantoni
N
E
1N
p
X
p
W: De Wijs
E: Muller
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S
p
X
#1 S:: 4,2,Q,6
#2 N:: K,T,8,3
#3 N:: 5,2,A,8
#4 S:: 4,Q,K,3
#5 N:: 6,3,4,K
#6 W:: 3,K,T,2
#7 N:: Q,5,7,2
#8 N:: 8,J,A, 5
#9 S:: T, 7, 7, 6
tez: yapma olasˆ‰lˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ olsa
empasˆ‰
umutsuzda olsa dener.. K.. 6.. 4.. 8..♣9..
3.. 4..♣2.. 9.. 2.. Q.. 5.. 6.. J.. A..
K..♠8
champ i: 4 sp de batˆ‰yordu zaten
tez: nasˆ‰lsa battˆ‰k bari ˆ§ok batmayalˆ‰m
dedi
tez: batan 4♠ e baraj
jbgood: another slam now
mcphee: brb
Gerben42: NS open all hands that are remotely
1NT with 1NT..p..1N!..
tez: muhtemel bizimkilerde der 5 ..2
djneill: that could be a push if N-S get to 3 in
the other room making
hedyg: vs weak NT Fantunes play X= cards
bt: another trf seq coming up i guess..
Gerben42: 3 needs early ♠ leads otherwise
discard one on ♣J
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tez: 4 yarˆ‰ oynanacak..12 ˆ er bord..p
tez: maˆ§ˆ‰n yarˆ‰sˆ‰ olmadˆ‰ daha
serhat: 5d dermi?
murat: Nunes Nafiz abinin eline baktˆ‰ ˆ imdi
ve gˆ…lˆ…msedi
hedyg: vs strong it would show 5m+4M..p
tez: 4 2 battˆ‰ diˆ er odada....p
Gerben42: because of ♠9 can manage anyhow
djneill: action..♣4
bt: just what you want partner to bid..♣2
hedyg: Slawinski lead....♣Q
champ i: bˆ…lentin elle 2 h nasˆ‰l girdin demek
acaba nasˆ‰l olurdu..♣6..♣K..♣T
fabsayc: anybody care to explain this auction..♣
8
djneill: these spots aren’t as good as the other
time..♣3
hedyg: http://www.bridgeguys.com/SGlossary/
GlossS.html
jbgood: not me:).. 5
wstuart: I don’t think it’s such a good idea to pull
3♣ here... 2
drewsky: Obviously north didn’t realize (but of
course he should have) that 3♣ was natural
wstuart: S knew what he was getting into when
he bid it and N handn’t shown any ♣.
drewsky: Good play by west ducking the heart
hedyg: small lead: even nr of cards without an
honour or odd with honour.. A
sybarra : for some reason I think they agree
spades ...... 8.. 4
wstuart: Well, whether an error in judgement or
an error in interpretation of the bid; it’s still an
error... Q
drewsky: Ya think ?
wstuart: lol
drewsky: :)
drewsky: I can’t see how this is not down 2
hedyg: K and
wstuart: Yes, that looks right to me... K.. 3
sybarra: on the 2 nt, 3 cl 3 sp sequence.. 6
jbgood: only 3 rounds of bidding needed in the
OR to get to 6 ♠
fabsayc: lots of suggestions, unfortunately all
different.. 3.. 4
hedyg: needs to play Q♠ or J♠ now.. K
hedyg: creating an entry to his hand
hedyg: this should be ok as well for him..♠3..♠
K..♠T..♠2.. Q.. 5.. 7.. 2.. 8.. J
sarkar_suk: 1 imp for onstein .. A
drewsky : Soon I will be leaving for the golf
course......the over -under on my projected score
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tez: ikinci
u yerden alˆ‰p oynamak biraz
daha iyiydi
hobakan: buraya herkes milli takˆ‰mlar dˆ…
zeyinde geldi.(sˆ…rekli tekrar ediyoruz ama)
daha ˆ¶nce Avrupa ˆ…ˆ§ˆ…ncˆ…lˆ…ˆ ˆ…mˆ…z
yok..♠7
jbgood: OR: 1
- 1 ♠ - 4 NT - 5 - 6 ♠:)
fabsayc: most likely some form of kokish sequence,
but also could have been shape relays
jbgood: 3 flatties in a row ....
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Board
NS:
EW:
o 2♠
c 4♠
8
this/total IMPs
Onstein - NED
56
Angelini - ITA
6
60
S 5
200
S 4
420
8
7
♠A8
10
QJ93
7
5
7
10
♣A J8752
♠5
N ♠J732
A10 7 6 2
54
W E
K10 4 3
AQ86 2
S
♣K 9 4
♣6 3
♠ K Q10 9 6 4
1-5
3
K8
5
J95
8
♣ Q10
1-3
420
W: Brogeland
W
1
p
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§9,2,6,Q
§4,J,3,T
©Q,4,8,7
ª8,3,Q,5
§8,¨6,J,
#1 W::
#3 W::
#5 N::
#7 N::
#9 N::
N: Drijver
Open
S: Brink
N
E
2♣
p
p
p
E: Angelini
S
2♠
©K,A,3,5
§A,¨8,9,§K
©J,¨2,5,©6
ª4,¨3,ªA,2
#2 S::
#4 N::
#6 N::
#8 S::
bobdrijver: they don’t easily pass the take out
doubles...they decide to double even with voids,
the north hand has bad hearts and is in front of the
length.. 6
MolvaM2: under the screen discussion
brgpro: hard to say, dont know their agreements
MolvaM2: all 4 at the table
bobdrijver: so i think south made the big bid
here..
bobdrijver: 2 aces with a 5card suit...maybe even
3NT
bobdrijver: because you already doubled for take
out
bobdrijver: south could easily be 4 or 5 HCP
with 4153
brgpro: well, S can easily look for a possible
slam, N ’s 2NT just showed no 5 cards, might not
be what it looks like
MolvaM2: now we see drijver and angelini
bobdrijver: 2NT was scrambling..1
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brgpro: so 3
♣..p
¨ should have shown some values..2
brgpro: the X was a free bid after all..2♠..p
sybarra: is that director in oroom?
bobdrijver: i think Erico Bove ?
MolvaM2: Im told he is the doctor of mr angelini..p..p..
♣9
brgpro: by my agreements...2 over 2 is forcing...
bobdrijver: why should 3 show values?
bobdrijver: i dont agree
brgpro: looks a good game here to me..♣2..♣6..
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bobdrijver : indeed...passive again, but who
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bobdrijver: 2♠ and pass seem okay
brgpro: hard...actually nobody
bobdrijver: defenately a max for 2♠ but...
sybarra: must say, playing it differently than I
would, but then I am only a commentator..♣4..♣
J..♣3..♣T..♣A.. 8.. 9..♣K.. Q.. 4.. 8..
7.. J.. 2.. 5.. 6..♠8..♠3..♠Q..♠5..♠4.. 3..
♠A..♠2..♣8.. 6.. J
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Board
NS:
EW:
o 2♠
c 4♠
8
this/total IMPs
Angelini - ITA
6
60
Onstein - NED
56
S 5
200
S 4
420
8
7
♠A8
10
QJ93
7
5
7
10
♣A J8752
♠5
N ♠J732
A10 7 6 2
54
W E
K10 4 3
AQ86 2
S
♣K 9 4
♣6 3
♠ K Q10 9 6 4
1-5
3
K8
5
J95
8
♣ Q10
1-3
420
W: De Wijs
W
1
2
p
p
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N: Nunes
Closed
S: Fantoni
N
E
2♣
X
3
3♣
4♠
p
¨4,7,A,5
©3,4,K,A
©Q,5,8,7
§A,6,Q,9
ªK,5,§2,ª2
#1 W::
#3 N::
#5 N::
#7 N::
#9 S::
E: Muller
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S
XX
3♠
p
¨8,J,K,ª8
¨3,ªA,¨6,9
©J,§3,T,©2
©9,¨2,ª4,©6
ªQ,,,
#2 E::
#4 W::
#6 N::
#8 N::
#10 S::
wstuart: I’ll still take under since I know you
wouldn’t throw a stroke just to win a bet...
vugraphzus: a short break here
wstuart: tihs will be an interesting board. There
are sseveral reasonable actions for each player. I’
ll offer another wager that this board will not be a
push.
drewsky: 4♠ w-e here
atalok: tekirdag takˆ‰mˆ‰ almanya karˆ ˆ‰sˆ
‰nda 1 2imp ile one geˆ§miˆ galip gelirse yarˆ
‰n 9-10 maˆ§ˆ‰ oynuyacak
champ i: 4. lˆ…kde yok demi ˆ¶zgˆ…r
hobakan: final oynayamˆ‰yor isek ˆ…ˆ§ˆ…ncˆ
…lk maˆ§ˆ‰nda ˆ ans ve baˆ arˆ‰lar diliyorum
takˆ‰mˆ‰mˆ‰za
tez: avrupa 3.lˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ… beˆ enmemekte bir
geliˆ me sanˆ‰rˆ‰m
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wstuart: -1 save in 5 NS..1
yusufb: 4 gelincek gibi
atalok: bu maˆ§ˆ‰n maglubuda 3-4 maˆ§ˆ‰na ˆ
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murat: 4.lˆ…ˆ ˆ…mˆ…z var.. http://www.eurobridge.org
/competitions/European_championships/TeamChampRP.asp?
qmenudetid=372
champ i: yusuf hoca sessizliˆ i bozdu :),..2♣
Gerben42: 1NT all pass but wont make
drewsky: ew makes 5♠ ?..
hobakan: hollanda rusya maˆ§ˆ‰nda da hollanda
ˆ¶nde
tez: gurptan 1.takˆ‰m olarak ˆ§ˆ‰ktˆ‰k
hedyg: strange contract in OR on bd 6
wstuart: not quite, ,
ruff, win ♠A and I
think beats it..r
wstuart: but close.
wstuart: NS must be playing neg free bids?
drewsky: oh yeah wayne, suppose i run the clubs
at you with the dummy behind you ?
wstuart: ohh, yeah maybe so..2
drewsky: and maybe not :)..3♣
atalok: 4d?
hobakan: 77-16
hobakan : ben desteˆ imi artˆ‰rˆ‰p salona
gideceˆ im yarˆ‰n..(pazar ) :)
hobakan: herkese iyi akˆ amlar..3
fabsayc: i simply dont know, and neither does
Bob Drijver
tez: nereye ˆ¶zgˆ…r..3♠
funtay: iyi aksamlar
wstuart: I ruff one, you over ruff, but can’t get
back to hand - ♠9 comes into play...p
drewsky: In any event, the undiscplined weak
jump overcall with 6 HCP outside of hearts took ew out of the auction
tez: bizi bˆ‰rakma
hobakan: hollanda ˆ¶nde Rusya karˆ ˆ‰sˆ‰
nda..4♠
Gerben42 : but I guess if North had a hand
similar to the last one, 4 might have been on
wstuart: I don’t like 2 either, but how would
you define a disciplined jump overcall?..p
hobakan: izmirdeyiz abi.. cumartesi bugˆ…n:):)
..p
ritong: they have to do this when 1 NT can be
very offshape, especially with a 5 cards major
Gerben42: so one extra down
drewsky: KQJ10xx and out :)..p
yusufb: teki cˆ‰kcak
hobakan: tek varsa ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰n demiˆ
Gerben42: Bas Drijver playing 2 (strong NT
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hedyg: if anybody can explain what the 2♣ bid
was in OR on bd 6..other than a psyche
wstuart: So, pretty much no outside defense... 4
tez: yarˆ‰ final maˆ§ˆ‰ oynanˆ‰yor ˆ u anda
tez: 4♣ desede aslan 4 diyemeyecek
drewsky: well, certainly not an ace and queen
outside.. 7
hobakan: 1-kantar.. 2-Yusuf:):)
tez: eleme.. A
hobakan: yarˆ‰n gˆ¶rˆ…ˆ ˆ…rˆ…z.... 5
hedyg: Marion Michielsen tells us 1 was 5+m,
4M. so 2♣ was p/c
hedyg: ty all specs :)
mcphee: so 3♣ was he forgot to pass?:)
hedyg: Angelini forgot to correct 2♣ to 2
hedyg : Brogeland had to bid 2 ♣ in case the
minor suit was ♣s
mcphee: well it was
mcphee: and then Agilini had to confirm he had
the ♣ by raising:)
hedyg: sry yes but not need to raise
hedyg: pass would confirm
mcphee: so 3♣ was like dble confirmation
tez: kazanan final maˆ§ˆ‰ oynayacak.. 8
tez: 4 yarˆ‰ toplam
tez: kalacaklar 4 te
yusufb: :):):) bide italyanlar.. J.. K
tez: 4/3 e guzel 4♠
Gerben42: probably 1 2♣ x p 2 ..♠8
tez: 12 ˆ er bord heryarˆ‰.. 3
tez: moisyan fit deniyor galiba.. 4.. K
mcphee: not beating this game
Gerben42: apparently 1♣ could be short, then 2
♣ natural.. A
tez: 3nt oynasak ˆ ansˆ‰mˆ‰z vardˆ‰.. 3
hobakan : benim sˆ‰ralamamda yok onlar
yusufcum:):)..♠A.. 6
funtay: evet, .. 9
mcphee: pretty sure he will track J now.. Q..
5.. 8.. 7
mcphee: might play small
hedyg: this can take a while
tez: salvo ya
atak gelirdi.. J
mcphee: no hope, tell him operator:)
hedyg: lol
vugraphzus: :)
hedyg: tell them OR is catching up!
hedyg: has caught up.....
mcphee: wow it seems very strange to pass 2♠
as N after bidding 2♣ in the other room
hedyg: 4 boards after this 1 and we should restart
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mcphee: i would have thot that would be a F
situation
hedyg: 2♠ nf, but still..
Gerben42: at least 2 down here..♣3
Gerben42:
cuts off declarer’s hand
jbgood: som people (me included) would bid the
5 card heart suit rather than double - but a matter
of style..♣T.. 2
tez: ne oldu anlamadˆ‰m ..♣A..♣6..♣Q
mcphee: after that 22 min tank E can hardly have
had just 1♣ so A is safe:)..♣9
funtay: evet oluyordu batara geldi birden.. 9..
2..♠4
champ i: h den kˆ‰salˆ‰nca yere geˆ§erken sp
le ˆ§akˆ‰nca 4. sp artˆ‰yor
ritong: nice defense.. 6..♠K..♠5
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Board
NS:
EW:
o 5♠
c 4♠
9
this/total IMPs
Onstein - NED
56
Angelini - ITA
60
W 5
650
W 5
650
9
♠K 8 2
9532
72
♣10 9 7 4
♠7 6 5 4 3
N ♠ A Q10 9
84
KQJ6
W E
4
AK 8
S
♣A Q 6 5 2
♣K J
♠J
A10 7
Q J10 9 6 5 3
♣ 83
1430
W: Brogeland
W
4♠
5
p
¨
N: Drijver
Open
S: Brink
N
E
p
1♣
p
4N
p
5♠
p
¨
ª ¨ ª
ª
2
1
2
6
2-1
brgpro: not missing 2A
brgpro: if that is the case, then the finesse works
more than 50% of the time..p
sybarra: 3 should ask for the
..5♠..p..p..p..
7.. A.. 6.. 4..♠A..♠J..♠4..♠2..♠Q.. 3..♠
5..♠K
sybarra: or ??
brgpro: even playing prec. 4♠ was an aggressive
bid i think.....♣7..♣K..♣3..♣2
bobdrijver: i agree..♠T
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7
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E: Angelini
S
4
p
p
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#1 N:: 7,A,6,4
#2 E:: A,J,4,2
#3 E:: Q, 3, 5,K #4 N:: 7,K,3,2
#5 E:: T,,,
sybarra: so brink over drives it ..♣2..♠2..♠Q
sybarra: Sjoert frowning
brgpro: if S cue bid 2 , then he would get 3♣
.....p..1♣!..16+any
brgpro: too far for him to come back to ♠
bobdrijver: will be 5 imps to angelini on board 8
i guess so angelini takes over
sybarra: fantoni-nunes in 4 spade
brgpro: 6..4 ..4♠
bobdrijver : said that a few times before and
never happened, but this time...
bobdrijver: 6 i mean yes
brgpro: a free 4♠?...
brgpro: hard for E to pass on that..p..4N..p
brgpro: now he needs to guess well to make 6..5
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be enough for a free 4♠?
brgpro: so E shd know that the ♠K is missing
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Board
NS:
EW:
o 5♠
c 4♠
9
this/total IMPs
Angelini - ITA
60
Onstein - NED
56
W 5
650
W 5
650
9
♠K 8 2
9532
72
♣10 9 7 4
♠7 6 5 4 3
N ♠ A Q10 9
84
KQJ6
W E
4
AK 8
S
♣A Q 6 5 2
♣K J
♠J
A10 7
Q J10 9 6 5 3
♣ 83
1430
W: De Wijs
W
p
4♠
¨
ª ¨ ª
ª ¨ ª
N: Nunes
Closed
S: Fantoni
N
E
p
1♣
p
X
p
p
#1 N:: 7,A,Q,4
#3 E:: Q, 6, 4,K
#5 E:: 9, 3, 5,8
2
1
2
6
2-1
10
12
10
7
11
E: Muller
S
4
p
p
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#2 E:: A,J,3,2
#4 N:: T,K,8,2
#6 E:: K,A,4,
drewsky: bye all, off to shoot 78 so wayne loses
his wager
champ i: belki 1 gelir burdan
arigun: hidayet kaptan ?
tez: buyuk el geliyor
tez: 6♣ e geldik
sybarra: but little imps probably
mcphee: action hand
wstuart : Many players feel that they should
loosen up their preempts when pard is a passed
hand since there is no game, but there is actaully
a good argument for tightening up your preempts
.....p
wstuart: since the only thing you are bidding for
is finding a save, therfore your pard needs to
know exactly your defensive prospects.
hobakan : o gˆ¶nˆ…llerin ilk sˆ‰rasˆ‰nda
Cengiz abi:)
champ i: tersten oynanˆ‰rsa karo atak edilmez
eyamut: gˆ…naydˆ‰n
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yusufb: o tek diil as varsa alttan cˆ‰kma konusunda
uzman:)
wstuart: $5 Drew..1♣!
ritong: since east would get squeezed
ritong: on the
ace
jbgood: will give a swing - fantunes in 3 NT
without a heart lead in the OR - going down
hedyg: 1♣ = 16+
mcphee: so 6♠ happens to make here
hedyg: specs bidding 4
mcphee: I doubt they will bid it
yusufb: gˆ…naydˆ‰nn erhan hoˆ geldinn..4
hedyg: OR stopped in 5♠
arigun: gunaydin erhan..p
murat: gˆ…naydˆ‰n :)
tez: 6♣ ˆ§ok iyi kontrat
champ i: batarsˆ‰z
tez: ilk defa 6♣ yapˆ‰yoruz
Gerben42 : 1NT must be their Burger King
opening - over one zillion served..p
funtay: o takim da Nafiz ve Nezihte vardi..
sybarra: we might well see 4
bid here..p..4♠
jbgood: 5 imps for Onstein on 8
tez: butun 6♣ lere battˆ‰k ...ˆ§ok yuksek yuzdedli
olanlarada battˆ‰k..p
ritong: oh they are in 2NT right defnse saved a
trick anyway..p
champ i: ˆ mit Tarhan Tokay da vardˆ‰..p
tez: daha iyi oynanabilirmiˆ evet ama defansˆ‰
nda hakkˆ‰nˆ‰ vermek gerekiyor
mcphee: this will be easy for him
tez: ♠ yada atak ederse batˆ‰rabiliriz.. 7..
A
atalok: 2 dam empasˆ‰nˆ‰da aynˆ‰ yere atar
bakalˆ‰m ne tarafˆ‰ seˆ§ecek
sybarra: and escaping undoubled
jbgood: for minus 50 rather than 100
sybarra: probably not worth the risk actually
tez: hidayet abi yok muydu?.. Q
marlowepi: not sure who would be temopted to
double here. even seeing all four hands... 4
hedyg: the 4 bid did its job
mcphee: may just bang down A♠ here
hedyg : Brogeland bid 4 ♠ freely over 4 ,
Blackwood saved them
hedyg: or rkc
hedyg: with 2 keycards missing Angelini stopped
in 5♠
mcphee: good math skills?
Gerben42: other table Drijver opened a mini NT
and Brink bid 2♠ to play..♠A..♠J
sybarra: some days a spade doesnt cash..♠3..♠
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Dutchmen
funtay: digerleri ˆ rfan Dogan, Zafer Sengˆ…ler,
ˆ smail Kandemir ve ˆ mit Tarhan.. 6..♠4..♠K
tez: bilmesi gerekiyor nereye atacaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰..♣T
Gerben42: so exciting hand if it were board a
match
tez: elde pek bilimsel veri yok..♣K
tokay1975: nezih h cˆ‰kmayarak cok iyi bisey
yapti simdi cl dami bulamassa h damini diger
elde arayabilir
marlowepi: the 4H bid by N was cutting it really
fine. after the auction conducted by S, 4H does
not rate to make, but if you push them into 4S
you might find u cant beat it
yusufb: ilk el 9♠ mi verdi..♣8
marlowepi: N still has a 7 loser hand, and S has
not biod strongly..♣2..♠9
hedyg: 12 tricks available double dummy
mcphee: i sort of like the A♠ play here when
just in 4.. 3
hedyg: agree..♠5..♠8
champ i: batar bance.. K.. A.. 4
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NS:
EW:
o 2
c 2
10
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Onstein - NED
56
Angelini - ITA
60
N 3
140
N 3
140
10
♠Q96
K Q10 6 4 2
A4
♣10 9
♠A 7 4 3
N ♠J85
A97
853
W E
Q76
K10 8 2
S
♣Q 7 6
♣A J 5
♠ K10 2
J
J953
♣K 8 4 3 2
140
W: Brogeland
W
N: Drijver
Open
S: Brink
N
E
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2
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7
9
7
7
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#2 S:: 3,6,A,8
#3 N:: K,8, 2, A #4 W:: 7,4,K,5
#5 E:: 2,9,Q, 4
#6 N:: Q,3, 3, 9
#7 N:: 6,8,K,A
#8 W:: 3,9,J,2
#9 E:: T,J, 4, 9
#10 S:: T,7,Q,5
#11 N:: T,5,K,6
bobdrijver: is double and correct 4 to 4♠ an
option? as ♠ + ♣
bobdrijver: perhaps pass is most logical
brgpro: i am afraid not. after a str. 1♣ and pre-e.
MolvaM2: angelini says he was tempted to bid 6
spades thinking brogeland had 7 card spades
brgpro: depends on the level, the responder has
to show points..p
MolvaM2 : then slam would be only 50% he
says..p
bobdrijver: ah ok..p
brgpro: after a 3 level or more pre-e. X shd show
GF values..2
MolvaM2: brogeland said he has 5 little spades..p
MolvaM2: live from table http://www.ustream.tv/
channel/champions-cup-2010..p
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Angelini - ITA
60
Onstein - NED
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N 3
140
N 3
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10
♠Q96
K Q10 6 4 2
A4
♣10 9
♠A 7 4 3
N ♠J85
A97
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W E
Q76
K10 8 2
S
♣Q 7 6
♣A J 5
♠ K10 2
J
J953
♣K 8 4 3 2
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W: De Wijs
W
p
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N: Nunes
Closed
S: Fantoni
N
E
p
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¨2,5,6,A
§7,T,A,2
ª2,3,Q,8
#1 E::
#3 E::
#5 W::
#7 S::
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7
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5
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6
5
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§5,K,6,9
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#2 W::
#4 N::
#6 E::
#8 N::
arigun: maddi bir hata oldu masada belli ki ya
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elinden dustu nezihin yada yanlis gordu..p.. 5..
J.. 7.. 2.. 3.. 6.. A.. 8.. K.. 8..♣2..
A.. 7.. 4.. K.. 5.. 2.. 9.. Q.. 4.. Q..
3..♣3.. 9..♠6..♠8..♠K..♠A..♠3..♠9..♠J..
♠2.. T.. J..♠4..♣9..♠T..♠7..♠Q..♠5..♣T..
♣5..♣K..♣6
tez: bordlar duruldu
tez: kritik oyun yada defans yok
tez: bundan sonra baˆ lˆ‰yor bomba eller
champ i : kˆ‰zlar bˆ…lente gider bilmiyor
angelini ben olsam + 1 yapardˆ‰m
tez : bir buyuk skor daha gelirse maˆ§a ortak
oluruz
Gerben42: board won by the mini NT :)
tez: tˆ…m maˆ§ boyunca ˆ anslˆ‰ olduˆ umuz ilk
el..p
tez: ˆ aka diyorum.kimse bilemez ne gelecek..p..p
murat: Angelini Bˆ…lent’e sorular soruyor
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some point with that distribution ..2 !
fabsayc: 4♣?
marlowepi: even wthout distribution he would be
unlikely to keep quiet about AQ986 of clubs
sybarra: not sure Brink promises more that 2 ♣ (
if any)
jbgood: he might wait and enter with a NT bid
later
Gerben42: 1♣ = 13++ with ♣ or 15+ NT..p
hedyg: 2 =(9) 10-13 unbalanced
tez: 4♠ e gelinecek..p
sybarra: am told it is 2+ clubs
hedyg: 5+ cards
Gerben42: 1 = ♠..p
jbgood: but chose to bid both minors economially
djneill: South could ask for a minor, potentially
improving the contract, but potentially getting to
2NT or 3 , which is worse..♠5
hedyg: specs say in 4th seat 11-13
fabsayc: which is why he took the low road..♠T
marlowepi: right shirley, but he is not precluded
from having long clubs, and if he does then E
needs to show his support right away while it is
still safe
imp_jan: morning folks..♠A
tez: oynanmazsa ♣ in ˆ…zerine kayˆ‰p ka
ˆ§ˆ‰lacak
tez: 1 imp vereceˆ iz burdan
djneill: so South could have let it be a 5-1 fit in 2
, it is a guess..♠6
hedyg: maybe you have it in your system page
Dan? it is not on the CC
djneill: it could be a 1-suiter in 4th seat, which
would be good to see written somewhere
tez: 3♠ e 2 batacaktˆ‰k..ondan iyi.. 7.. 4
tez: 3 nt deseler yapacaklardˆ‰
murat: 3NTye de yaklaˆ mˆ‰ˆ lardˆ‰
tez: ♣ dam atak eder diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nmˆ…ˆ tˆ…m
Gerben42: 1♠ usually shows fit
Gerben42: 2 = 7+ with doubleton
sybarra: the auction worked for them
jbgood: a trump lead would perhaps have been
more challenging
eyamut: m.. K
tez: 2♣ drury idi..aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ a yakˆ‰n puan ve tutuˆ
gˆ¶steriyor..pastan gelen ellerde kullanˆ‰lˆ‰
yor..
Gerben42: or shorter.. 3
hedyg: yesssssss!
imp_jan : bad wheather here in izmir (raing
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sometimes), but the bridge is great.. 2
champ i: iˆ te beklenen sayˆ‰ geldi
atalok: siftah geldi bereketi allahtan
yusufb: 1 degil 10 olarak gelmeside iyi tabii:)
imp_jan: check the website of the ebl for results
and bulletins and of course www.bridgetopics.com
for all the news
2celik1: merci
champ i: helgemo bize 10 sayˆ‰ hediye etmiˆ te
ˆ ekkˆ…rler
atalok: nezh bunuda artˆ‰ 1 yapar bence
vugraphzus: atak iˆ§in dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor Fantoni
funtay: 3 vakte kader bi kismet cikicak
murat: Bˆ…lentten Nunes’e: Two spades di mi??
murat: Fantoni atak iˆ§in dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…rken kˆ‰
sa bir video ˆ§ektim. yayˆ‰nlamaya ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ acaˆ
ˆ‰m.. 5
2celik1: talihsiz 4 major bordu dˆ‰sˆ‰nda gayet
guzel bir mac cˆ‰karˆ‰yor Izmir Buyuksehir
arigun: ♠ atagindan sonra isler biraz karisabilirdi
belki, kup icin ♣’e giderken nezih ♣T koymazsa
problemi cikabilirdi ama !k veya Q koysa dahi
♣J ve lar nunes de oldugu icin ...
arigun: otomatik oluyor
tez: ˆ… yere ˆ§aktˆ‰rmasˆ‰na engel olmak d
ˆ…ˆ ˆ…ncesiyle koz atak etti
Gerben42: same contract in other room
tez: di dedimi nunes?.. 6.. A.. 2
tez: :)
murat: daha ˆ§ok hˆ¶ˆ¶’ye benziyordu
Gerben42: 1 imp back to Angelini after the lead?
.. 3
ritong: good players are not keen about leads
from xxx, but here the hand is a nightmare to lead
Gerben42: the best lead from this hand is abstain
tez: 3 yada 4.den 1 major aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ndan sonra
kullanˆ‰lˆ‰yor.... J
sybarra: potential for a few more imps for Neth.
if Brink can bring this home.. A..♣7
tez: evde lˆ…tfen kendi baˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰za denemeyin..
♣T..♣A
tez: patlar:)..♣2..♣5..♣K
sybarra: not really fond of being on lead with N
hand at this point
arigun: 1 ♣ e 1 tane ♠ e
gidiyormus yerden
pardon..♣6..♣9
jbgood: another fiver making them 3 consecutive
ones - and the match very much alive
tez: emeline ulaˆ tˆ‰..♠2..♠3
tez: yere ˆ§aktˆ‰rˆ‰lamadˆ‰..♠Q..♠8.. K
tez: ortaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰zla anlaˆ ˆ‰n.. 5..♣3.. 7
Gerben42: looks like 11ish tricks
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c 5
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Onstein - NED
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59
Angelini - ITA
60
S 3
140
E
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50
11
4
♠K 7 4
8
Q10 8 5 4
6
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4
4-3
♣10 8 6 5
♠Q J
N ♠6 2
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K J 32
W E
AQ J 9 2
K753
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♣AK 9 4
♣Q J 3
♠ A10 9 8 5 3
6
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A6
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10 8 6
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W
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N: Drijver
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E: Angelini
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#2 W:: J,K,6,3
#3 N:: Q,K,A,7
#4 S:: 6,9,T,J
#5 E:: 3, 2, Q, 4
brgpro: this is not a hand for prec. players..2♠
brgpro: let’s see if EW can stay out of game..3
brgpro: X ..3♠
brgpro: then convert 4♣ to 4
sybarra: not sure what angelini’s X would be
there ..p
bobdrijver: pass will help....p..p
bobdrijver: perhaps X would be penalty..♣A
sybarra: oh well here is Brink in 3 ♠
brgpro: but they can make 4 and NS make 3♠
...( with the right trump guess)..♣5..♣3..♣7
sybarra: that sould help ..♠J
sybarra: *should
bobdrijver: why?
sybarra: maybe not
brgpro: well, he has a lot to do...guess he would
go down
brgpro: he cant play
that way( play 2 rounds
of trumps ending in dummy then Q or 10)
brgpro: that is a good start..♠K..♠6..♠3.. Q..
K.. A.. 7.. 6
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brgpro: not a
..... 3
bobdrijver: that helps
brgpro: declarer can discard a ♣ now
bobdrijver: was easy down 1..♣2..♠Q.. 4
brgpro: now it is an easy make
MolvaM2: claim
bobdrijver: indeed
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c 5
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Angelini - ITA
60
Onstein - NED
3
59
S 3
140
E
-1
50
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4
♠K 7 4
8
Q10 8 5 4
6
2
4
4-3
♣10 8 6 5
♠Q J
N ♠6 2
97
K J 32
W E
AQ J 9 2
K753
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♣AK 9 4
♣Q J 3
♠ A10 9 8 5 3
6
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A6
7
10 8 6
10
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N: Nunes
Closed
S: Fantoni
N
E
1♣
2
2N
4
5
p
p
p
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W: De Wijs
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#3 N::©4,J,A,7
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Walddk4: Welcome to Jeff Sapire
fann4: Hi all
wstuart: Hi Jeff
fann4: Hi there Wayne.
tez: son yarˆ‰ 20 dakika sonra baˆ layacak
murat: masaya Rahmi geldi. 10dk kaldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ
‰ hatˆ‰rlattˆ‰
Gerben42: 10 tricks?
yakop: diferans olacak bi bord..p
Gerben42: 2 in other room
tez: iˆ imiz zor..dˆ…nyanˆ‰n en iyi kulup takˆ‰
mˆ‰na karˆ ˆ‰ 12 elde 60 imp kapatmak..1♣!
tez: kuzey guney zayˆ‰f sanzatu oynuyorlar
Gerben42: misguessed ..p
tez: bu limitler iˆ§indeki her yarˆ‰ dengeli ya da
5li majˆ¶rˆ… olan ellerle de 1 nt aˆ§ˆ‰yorlar..2 !
..p..2 !
hedyg: 2 = 9-11 balanced
champ i: zayˆ‰f nt mi oynuyorlardˆ‰..p
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tez: 12 15 nt
tokay1975: boye ortagini hep uygun seviyede
oynatiyo profosyonellik bu olsa gerek
tez: zayˆ‰f sanzatu oynuyor kuzey guney..2♠!
Gerben42: Muller doesnt know what minor is
longer in Precision
fabsayc: giving NS a free ride here
Gerben42: apparently de Wijs might have rebid
1NT as well but didnt think his hand was very
NTish..p
fann4: A comfortable contract - even with the
bad ♣ break..2N!
arigun: 6♣ de problem cikabilir ama 6♠ sorunsuz
galiba ama demesi neredeyse imkansiz ve iyi bir
slam degil..p
vahaboglu: 4♣
vahaboglu: iyi
vahaboglu: deklere olarak
vahaboglu: 4♣-5♣ mi gider
hobakan: 4♣-4♠
begse: 2♠ 10-13 3♣ minimum gˆ¶sterdi
yusufb:
cˆ‰kˆ‰lmazsa 6nt de olur
hobakan: bence doˆ ru zonu dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor
Nezih
begse: ♣ leri olduklarˆ‰nˆ‰ bilmiyorlar henˆ
…z
vahaboglu: o zaman deklereleri geri alˆ‰yorum
vahaboglu: ok
hobakan: minimuma karˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰k
begse: ˆ lem mevzubahis degil 3s te kalmasˆ‰
nlar
vahaboglu: belki 4♠ mi
begse: ama salvoda mˆ…thiˆ el var
phantoma: 3D ya 4♠ daha iyi olabilir miydi?
phantoma: var mi sistemlerinde boyle bir ifade
Gerben42: as it is 1NT isnt a big success even
though are 4-4
hedyg: 2 relay..3♠!
hedyg: and after that i am lost :(
wstuart: A low
is an interesting choice, even
knowing that the length is behind you...
wstuart: The
finesse is a free play, since one
of the losers can go on the A.
hobakan: 3nt-4♠
yusufb: 4♠ der salvo bence
begse: yine direktˆ¶r cagˆ‰rˆ‰rlar
hedyg: and tarzan expert around?
vugraphzus: evet:)..4 !
vugraphzus: ˆ§aˆ ˆ‰rdˆ‰ Fantoni
yusufb: tabiii 3-5 eldir cagˆ‰ramadˆ‰lar canlar
ˆ‰ sˆ‰kˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰r
hobakan: ya gelmiyim oraya
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begse: bunlara dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nmek serbest bize degil
bak hakem cagˆ‰racaklar
vahaboglu: hesitation var diye mi
hobakan: ne bu ya
tez: koz ˆ§ok kˆ¶tˆ… daˆ ˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ ama oyunu
yapmak zor deˆ il
hedyg: Bob Drijver suggests 3♠ shows exact
distribution
vahaboglu: bari yeri gˆ¶rˆ…p ˆ§aˆ ˆ‰rsaydˆ‰..p
yusufb: dˆ…sˆ…nerek alenen manyel yapˆ‰
yolar bide literatˆ…re geldi yap bi italyan
begse: bu normal ama
begse: adam oynayˆ‰n diyecek
vahaboglu : aslˆ‰nda hesitation olmuˆ tur
eminim ama bu "ben ˆ… tam kesmiyorum" ˆ
eklindeyse biraz haklˆ‰ olabilirler
2celik1: Sayˆ‰n Nafiz Abimizin su serzenisi de
bence literature gecmeli
tez: ˆ§akarak rahatˆ§a yapacak 2♠ i
tez: en iyi defans hep ♠ oynamak
funtay: bˆ…yˆ…k abi -1 diyo Tez
sybarra: should Brink have jumped in with 1 ?
vahaboglu: ama yer aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰nca ˆ¶yle olmadˆ
‰ˆ ˆ‰ anlaˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰yor..4 !
hobakan: ˆ u an hakemin yapacaˆ ˆ‰ biˆ ey yok..
devam edin diyecek
fann4: South might have bid 1NT over the dbl...p
champ i: 6 cl
2celik1: onlar dusununce hep bir nedenleri var
ama baskasˆ‰nˆ‰n yok
sybarra: free right to 2 ♠ oh well
fabsayc: maybe that means something else, i
surely would have bid 1 if available
hedyg: 2♠= 4 s
hobakan: onlar da beklemenin yapˆ‰ldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰
anˆ‰ tespit ettirmek amacˆ‰ ile ˆ§aˆ ˆ‰rdˆ‰
lar..5
hedyg: 3♠= 2 4 4 3
hedyg: so then 4 set s, 4 cue..p
hobakan: meˆ ersem ˆ ilem iˆ§in dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…lˆ
…yormuˆ .. HADˆ SALVO!!..p..p
sybarra: we help from the specs, would 1
have shown hts?
phantoma: I thk 4 was an end signal
phantoma: forced to 4 ..♠A
tez: bˆ…yˆ…k abinin eli tutulmaz..o hep doˆ ru
der..♠J
funtay: tabi abinin abisi de var:)
tez: bu elden de sayˆ‰ vereceˆ iz..♠4..♠2..♠T
tez: en baˆ tan olurdu bence
tez:
ˆ§aka elden baˆ layarak
wstuart: Yes. It would have positioned his side a
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♠Q
fann4: Right..♠K
tez: oyuncular skoru gormuyor devre bitmeden
marlowepi: yes, E would probably have bid 1S
with 5 of them, so bidding 1H rates to help your
side more than hurt
wstuart: In this case, it would liekly have led to
the same contract...♠6
serhat: Top aglarda.. 4
atalok: zoramayapsalvo
phantoma: batabilir
vahaboglu: evet
yusufb: salvonun eliyle KQJ109X ♠ varken 6♠
derdin ama 44 oynatˆ‰p ♠ kagˆ‰t atmayˆ‰ dˆ
…sˆ…ndˆ… belki
arigun: nasil yapacak ki ... ilk ♠ i almayacak abi
vahaboglu: ♠ boˆ lanˆ‰rsa
vahaboglu: batar
2celik1 : direktor cagˆ‰rˆ‰lˆ‰nca Ismail
Kandemir in board acˆ‰ldˆ‰gˆ‰nda dedigi gibi
fark yaratacak bir durum olustu belki de
yusufb: diger masada zon oynadˆ‰gˆ‰ iˆ§in 21
imp lik bord
hobakan: ˆ u trefl de 4-1 olmak zorunda sanki
2celik1: o fark lehimize olsun
murat: bˆ…lent kˆ¶re uyunca ˆ aˆ ˆ‰rdˆ‰.. J
wstuart: It’s possible that NS play xfrs starting
with 1NT over the DBL,m so he might not have
had a natural 1NT available to him... A.. 7
vugraphzus: last board
vugraphzus: thanks all and bye
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#3 S:: 7,6,A,9
#5 S:: 4,A,6,5
#2 N:: 3,5,A,2
#4 N:: 2,J, 8, T
#6 W:: K, 2,,
MolvaM2: last board of this segment
brgpro: all the wild hands are at the end!:)
MolvaM2: next and the last segment starts in just
15 minutes
MolvaM2: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/championscup-2010 live from table..1 !
brgpro: EW dont even make 4 with the correct
lead..p..4 ..p..p..p
brgpro: either a
or ♠ will beat this..♠8
brgpro: some say ♣A will beat it too but after
leading ♣A, S will see the ♣KQ are set up, so he
might be tempted to play another ♣ to kill a
winner from dummy..♠5..♠Q..♠3..♣3..♣5..♣
A..♣2
brgpro: or ♠ lead will make things very clear
for defence..♠7..♠6..♠A..♠9
brgpro: now he will go 2 down..♠2..♠J.. 8..♠
T.. 4.. A.. 6.. 5
brgpro: he wont try to cash ♠K
brgpro: but try ♣K
sybarra: might just lead a
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brgpro: without knowing the ♣ that way..♣K..
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bobdrijver: bye for now
sybarra: ty all
sybarra: thx Bob and Jack
sybarra: and our wonderful operator
sybarra : thx also to specs with all the great
comments
brgpro: it is going to be a tight match going to
the last set
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